The End Of Things

One of the reasons it feels like the wheels are coming off society is that we seem to be at the end of things. By things I mean cycles. These are cultural, intellectual, historical and economic cycles. Some have played out over generations while some are playing out in a single lifetime. The result of so many things ending at once is something like the confluence of several rivers.

Probably the biggest thing coming to an end is the idea of America that everyone was raised to believe. If you remember the Cold War, then you probably recall people talking about the difference between America and the world. It was not just the free world versus the communists. Europeans would talk about how America was the envy of the world for our freedom and love of individuality.

We put people in jail now for having the wrong opinions. Our institutions are so corrupt no sane person trusts anything that comes from them. The only difference between America today and the Soviet Union of the 1970’s is that we have vast material prosperity, but that is bought on credit. The American economic system is a ticking timebomb just waiting for someone to cut the wrong wire.

People struggle to accept that old America is dying, and this remains a primary obstacle to changing the trajectory of society. The answer to the ongoing madness from the people we call the left is some form of “We just have to go back to…” that can never happen, so we continue to swirl in the churn of decline. This is often the dynamic with the other things entering their end phase.

It is why we are cursed with backward thinking. Everyone is obsessed with rummaging around in the past, like a person searching around for a lost item, as if there is an answer in the past that will prevent the inevitable future. One reason no one talks about what comes next is fear of what comes next. It means closing the door on the past and those past ideas. The future is a terrifying idea for America.


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  • Cycles & Super Cycles
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  • The End Of Things

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Everyone is obsessed with rummaging around in the past I agree with this. But it is easy to understand why people do this, especially when the past held so many great personal and collective memories. Despite what newly-minted Leftist Thought Control Tsars might tell us, the collected European history of (and especially of) the last 300 years is one well documented march of the unrestrained determination, kindness, intellect and industry of white men. And I include the US in this too, seeing that she was really a seed of Europe. Not only did the great materialism bring with it the… Read more »

Boris
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Regarding your list of White accomplishments, check out the musical skit in the Family Guy episode, “Thank the Whites”. Hilarious, yet absolutely true. It’s still on YouTube… for now.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Boris
12 days ago

All fun aside — and keeping in mind it’s just a comedy show — it’s not likely the trivial “accomplishments” portrayed there are going to get that video pulled from YouTube.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

I’d add the germ theory of disease, antibiotics and anesthesized surgery to your list.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
12 days ago

Diversity Heretic,

As I was reading my comment back to myself I thought about this! Thanks for the inclusion, undoubtedly, along with proper sanitation and sewer systems, the key to our massively increased longevity!

Should also have mentioned the extraction of crude oil and all of it’s various by-products.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Concomitant with that list of accomplishment was the art, architecture, music, literature, and poetry which accompanied this impressive list of scientific/industrial achievements. There are no real competitors to Mozart, Palladio, Da Vinci, Tolstoy or Virgil and their compatriots. Go to the great European cities and museums and you will find them crowded with Asians, Muslims, Indians…people from all over the world want to see and experience what our people have accomplished. Non-Europeans have never been able to write music like this: https://tinyurl.com/bddydb36

1660please
1660please
Reply to  Epaminondas
12 days ago

Good points. Those are also vital elements of the West. And so are the theological and philosophical schools of thought, from the Greeks through the Medieval, Renaissance, Enlightenment and later thinkers.

Also, the spirit and accomplishment of the great explorers.

The list is a very long one that needs to be treasured and passed down to the future generations.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  1660please
12 days ago

1660please,

The spirit of the great explorers, indeed. That’s something I’m glad you mentioned, because I don’t think I’ve ever been more thrilled reading about people, than about those great men.

Such adventures. Sad though, as that world has gone forever.

Some of the Spanish conquistadors had some brilliant tales. They died in horrid ways, but they sure had eventful lives!

1660please
1660please
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Thanks, OrangeFrog. I agree with you completely. And many of the explorers were admirable in various ways. Sir Francis Drake, for example, was a great leader, courageous, and filled with a spirit of fair play. LaSalle and some of the other French explorers also amazed me. And John Smith. Well, the list is long, isn’t it? None of them were perfect, but they accomplished more than 99.9% of us do today. Columbus, of course, is continually being trashed, but he helped get the ball rolling, after the Portuguese, and he had admirable traits also. He has been continually misrepresented especially… Read more »

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  1660please
12 days ago

One key thing to recall about Columbus is that he sailed the high seas, where death and disease were all too frequent, before John Harrison invented his clocks that kept accurate time on ocean going ships. This meant they could deduce their longitude correctly. These men, whatever their faults, were cut from such different cloth from the man of today, that it boils my blood to hear them trashed by people who have never considered that, hey, 500 years ago, fellows may not have aligned very much with modern principles. Different times. High adventure. Derring-do. It’s true life was very… Read more »

Montefrio
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Down here in Argentina, the Milei gov just re-renamed Columbus Day (Día de la Raza in Spanish) from some recently invented leftie name like “Indigenous People and Assorted Others Day” or some such. The chainsaw is going Texas-style massacre on a lot of the bullshit we’ve suffered under for the 20 years I´ve been here. It’s wonderful! Defunding bs university stuff, breaking apart the nepotistic version of the IRS and SocSec bureaucracies… Tonight I make a rare nocturnal outing (I’m 78) to attend a meeting of the newly-launched local branch of the La Libertad Avanza party of which I’m a… Read more »

1660please
1660please
Reply to  Montefrio
12 days ago

Great to hear about Milei. I’m glad the chainsaw is still at work. Some on the right were dismissive of him because of his libertarianism, and apparent connections with the WEF. But he went to the WEF, I believe, and gave a fairly forthright speech to them, and seems to be following through with some of his positive ideas. The university stuff is very important, and their stranglehold needs to be broken up here. I’ll never forget the film I saw of a middle-aged Argentinian man running up to Milei during the campaign, grasping his hands, and pleading with him… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  1660please
12 days ago

Bukele is highly thought of, in my adopted Lat. Am. nation. Amongst the men, at least.

ray
ray
Reply to  Montefrio
12 days ago

DHS, (In)Justice Dept., FBI, CIA, Secret Service et al. — America doesn’t need a chainsaw, it needs a woodchipper.

High volume one, at that. I doubt Trump has the sand for what’s necessary, though, Even after getting shot-at.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Montefrio
12 days ago

Wow. Incredible. It’s exceedingly rare to see a Leftist perversion reversed. Usually, they’re permanent.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 days ago

Yea usually takes lots of blood, sweat and tears for that to happen…

Pozymandias
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 days ago

It could be a very hopeful sign. Leftist brainwashing has been intense and long term in the US but less so around the world. A lot of what drives global Leftism is the cultural (and military) imperialism of the US rather than any real belief in Globohomo “values” among the people. As the American Empire weakens and is forced to focus more on preserving itself in the core nations, (basically the US, Canada, and the UK) it will jettison less important areas around the periphery such as Argentina. Eventually, even people in the imperial core will start to appreciate these… Read more »

Boris
Reply to  1660please
12 days ago

Another light cultural reference, this time from the comedic geniuses of Monty Python. Just substitute “Whites” for “Romans” when the question is asked “What have the Romans ever down for us?”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Stupendous accomplishments in the arts and philosophy are easily the equal of those in the sciences. Rococo cathedrals, impressionism, symbolism, abstraction, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Poe, Dostoevsky, Goethe, Twain, Kant, Heidegger, Hegel, Neitzsche–I could go on an on and barely scratch the surface. Add up the accomplishments of the rest of the world over the last three centuries and they pale utterly compared to what the Occident and the Anglosphere wrought.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Ostei,

You are of course correct. I meant no denigration to the arts (when we could call them those), but for me personally they always took a distinct second place, probably as I’m a bit uncultured in these matters.

I appreciate the beauty of classical music, and gawk in amazement at a Rembrandt masterpiece, but I think a bit of it is lost on me. On the other hand, show me one of Thomas Telford’s bridges, and I’m awestruck!

I do wish I could appreciate the arts a bit more, I guess it’s just me mind.

ray
ray
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Oppressors, all! Keeping the wimmin and the of coloreds down.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Great post!

One thing we must also celebrate are our Greco-Roman-Nordic roots in philosophy, legal systems, social orders.

We are in this mess because we turned all of our attention toward technology and our destructive impulses toward dismantling Our unparalleled social technology and our knowledge of who should be permitted authority and who should never be permitted authority.

Those achievements turned out to be unsung and monumental in importance. Without them the technological and exploration achievements are meaningless and destructive.

Amazing post though. Have a beautiful weekend.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

I am flummoxed by this idea that we should “close the door to the past” as if that were even possible, let alone desirable. There are aspects of the past that are never coming back. But there are many aspects of the past still with us and desirable and many aspects of the past that can and should come back. Even now, as we speak, we are learning painful lessons that require a return to aspects of the past. Having an industrial society, for example. Without it, we will eventually be a very poor bit player in the world. We… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
12 days ago

The erasure and wild misrepresentation of the Western past serves the purpose of isolating us temporally and destroying the essence of what makes white people white (and great). Then, so unmoored from anything substantial, we lose our identity and can no longer function as a tribe. At that point, eliminating the white race is like shooting fish in a barrel. Our past is our existence, and its elimination constitutes an existential attack.

1660please
1660please
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Our past is our existence, and its elimination constitutes an existential attack.”

Yes. I’ve read people saying that fighting back about our past should be a lower priority. I strongly disagree. It needs to have very high priority. We can easily see how the trashing of our past has demoralized so many whites.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Well said. This is the moment where we act like victims and display learned helplessness, or we take preserving and transmitting our past, our identity and our vision for our future into our own hands. We are at this moment because we took this for granted and left it into other people’s hands. Were we a single ethnos/culture we would and could have gone astray and been able to come back to it during some inevitable crisis. Moreover, the crisis would have strengthened and further defined this identity that we call peoplehood or a nation. However, we took this for… Read more »

I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
Reply to  RealityRules
11 days ago

Okay fine. But will our own womenfolk help or hinder us in our struggle?

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  I.M. Brute
10 days ago

Women always follow the dominant Tribe so the question is do we as White Men have it in us to become the dominant Tribe again…

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
10 days ago

I am flummoxed by this idea that we should “close the door to the past” as if that were even possible, let alone desirable.

That does seem to be Z’s wont, though: to disdain the past and fixate on the nebulous prospect of building a new society on the ruins of the old. It all seems just a bit too Jacobin for me, all due respect to our host notwithstanding.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Lots of mistakes, too.

Why not, rather than this cyclical notion of growth and collapse, or the endlessly forward-pointing line, an iterative notion: you go out, you make mistakes, you return and learn lessons, you go out again.

It’s progress without Progress!, endings without The End.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Charles Murray’s “Human Accomplishment” is basically a “Thank a White Man” homage.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MikeCLT
12 days ago

And my guess is that he would deny that interpretation to his dying breath.

Square Bubble
Square Bubble
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

He’d insist all day that the great men he found in history were part of the “cognitive elite” (or whatever he calls them). Nothing to do with race or ethnicity. Since The Bell Curve he’s come a long way, baby.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Square Bubble
12 days ago

Since The Bell Curve he’s turned into a ding-bell.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Nicely articulated post.
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but I’m pretty sure Whitey is going to survive the current shit show. It’s just going to suck. Will some knowledge be lost? Maybe. I recently bought actual books, including the Bible, War and Peace,( an underrated story), Atlas Shrugged. I think you get what I’m cooking.
The most important thing to have, in addition to the usual preps, is “want too”.

Desire.

People who count on you.

People you can count on.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
12 days ago

Loss of knowledge is not unheard of. Many Roman engineering and artistic techniques disappeared and have not been recovered. And people interested in ancient metaphysics decry the loss of knowledge from the mystery cults that vanished in the third, fourth and fifth centuries.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
10 days ago

That last part is the most important part that so many miss…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

“Everyone is obsessed with rummaging around in the past,,,It means closing the door on the past and those past ideas. The future is a terrifying….” I’m thinking it means we close the door on the idea of “understanding”. Man’s brain is wired to “understand”. Has been since we came down from the trees to the savanna. That’s not to say we always had the “correct” understanding. Just that the need was there. What we could not figure out, we explained through the “gods”, then as we developed through “science”. All those were backstops to our primordial fear of powerlessness against… Read more »

Horace
Horace
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

… and a relevant point: we shared it all with the world. The only other smart peoples on this Earth who could have done what our ancestors did, like the Chinese, NEVER in a million years would have turned around and and tried to use knowledge to make the world a better place. Outgroup altruism is white.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
12 days ago

Try convincing normies that America is gone and it’s never coming back. Their answer to you is that the orange man will win a legitimate election and fix everything by replacing White people “legally”, giving “platinum plans” to violent negros and cutting the corporate tax rate.

As bad as things would be, I’m torn about whether the cackling whore being installed in dubious fashion wouldn’t be the best thing for the future of this economic trading zone.

There is only one way to fix this and defeat evil, you have to remove it. That is the only way.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tired Citizen
12 days ago

Tired Citizen: I’m with you, and in so many ways just want to get it all over with. But my husband has also made solid points about why, even though we know it will only be a short -term and very limited respite, he wants Trump to win. Either way it’s best to plan for the worst. I’ve been skimming lots of YT videos about “after Helene/Milton” and so many people are admitting they’d grown complacent, or thought “I have chickens and will be okay.” So many who had no idea how many watts their precious coffee makers required, or… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

If you don’t mind my asking, does El Hubbo plan to vote?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Nope. He’s come a long way towards my view on things, although we still have disagreements on many smaller issues. This doesn’t mean that he (nor I) is any less passionate about our values and beliefs than anyone else here; we just don’t think electoral politics today are going to change anything. Fwiw, it wouldn’t make any difference where we live, which has always been very conservative.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

As I said, I would, and *did* vote for Trump after not voting 2 years ago for the first time in my civic life. Not inclined to do so again. But actually glad for this one last time as in those short 4 years, the “world turned upside down” as the saying goes. Some observations— Here in AZ we no longer have precincts. We have a limited number of voting centers. This means two things I immediately see. 1) All voter registration is now electronic and dependent on the internet. 2) All ballots are printed on the scene. This seems… Read more »

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

It’s long past time to reconsider the idea of “secret ballots”.

Choose who you want to have as your agent, and, as his principal, accept responsibility for his actions.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

The “other side” is not playing by certain rules and are not afraid to intimidate and punish. Whether one votes or not *is* public, but the person’s choice is not—and should not be. The aspect of access to voting data as in who has or has not voted “before” the election is over allows false votes to be injected into the system. Hence, an online database with realtime updating—as required in today’s vote centers—is problematic if accessed for fraudulent balloting purposes during the final days of the election. Indeed, there was such a scandal here about 20 years ago. Mail-in… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
11 days ago

Dunno. Actions have consequences. Obviously yours. But we also have to make it clear that theirs do, too.

Since lefties don’t have an honest bone in their bodies, I don’t feel obligated to volunteer that Trump’s COVID Cash was inflationary, even if it wasn’t obvious until the Biden Thing was sworn in.

They are still blaming Trump for things he couldn’t possibly have done, like opening the border. Until they at least feign honesty, screw ’em.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Steve
11 days ago

Well, that thinking runs parallel to mine–if I understand the essence of your comment correctly.

I have stated before that, until *we* use the voting system to *our* advantage–cheating and all–there will be no incentive to correct the process “holes” by the side that is successfully gaming the system.

That of course is the Left.

Again it’s a matter of naively allowing our virtues to be used against us. None of what I posted was toward recommendation, only observation of the process as it stands today in one State with commentary on obvious short comings.

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Square Bubble
Square Bubble
Reply to  Tired Citizen
12 days ago

Right. Despite T-man’s sometimes encouraging claims about his plans, his actual accomplishments will probably peacefully coexist with those of the Deep State. He’ll make America grate again.

george 1
george 1
12 days ago

On Conservative Treehouse today one of the articles is concerning which personnel Trump must place into positions of power if he is elected. Good grief. Even mediocre wits like me can clearly see that “changing personnel” is not going to get the job done. This attitude is one reason our decline will continue. To start to fix the problem at least half of the government would have to be eliminated. Also, since at least 2001 this country has committed colossal crimes against humanity. The government institutions have committed crimes against the citizenry and openly subverted the electoral system. These are… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  george 1
12 days ago

I heard a rumor somewhere of Kevin McCarthy as WH Chief of Staff

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
12 days ago

Wonderful. Would not surprise me at all.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  george 1
12 days ago

Gotta work with what you have; that tear it all down and build back better thingie is a ludicrous fiction, disrespecting the million small efforts that have come before.
Sundance has done something remarkable here.

CTH, the preppers, what the good ol’ boys in the Southern Identity are doing- and Trump, the man and the symbol- are pointing the Way. Remember who /we/ are, the penicillin, and trust your people. Let’s hope we can hang them first!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
12 days ago

Heh. Say what you will, but it turns out *this* is at the Treehouse.

Gutteral, ghettotastic, and- *ahem!*- rather satisfying!!
Sugary and nutricious.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/25/kamala-harris-explains-to-cnn-audience-why-she-doesnt-have-policy-answers/#more-265400

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  george 1
12 days ago

Trump is an old-style civnat and a businessman who thinks that business – and making ‘deals’ – can fix everything and somehow restore ‘morning in ‘murka.’ The GOP apparatchiks already have it all worked out, and the first order of business will be . . . wait for it . . . tax cuts!!! Even with the best of good will, Trump cannot and will not do anything substantive to somehow stop AINO’s disintegration. He doesn’t hate White people, but neither does he have any actual concern for the future of the White race. He’s happy to have Jewish grandchildren,… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  3g4me
9 days ago

My brother is like what you describe. He will nod along with my observations about race, but deep down, he feels like our current system can work if everybody just starts making more money. His strongest political instinct is that if the Republicans can just goose the economy a bit, then all of my concerns fix themselves.

Trannies, blacks, we can deal with it all, so long as everyone can get a boat. My guess is that many conservatives agree with him.

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RealityRules
RealityRules
12 days ago

It is interesting and sad to think of all the things that our ancestors did to build America. Every time you look at one or some of them, you find yourself asking, ‘What was it all for?’ The answers I keep coming up with are, ‘I and my emerging post-America groups of Americans have to define and be the answer.’ The Cold War was a lie it seems. The idea of it was that we had to defeat the Soviets in order to remain free and to preserve our way of life. It turns out that that war was a… Read more »

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Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  RealityRules
12 days ago

Great comment. Will be thinking about this throughout the day. Very thoughtful and I particularly like your take on the Cold War.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  RealityRules
12 days ago

The Cold War was merely a policy disagreement between two materialist and egalitarian philosophies. Both communism and democracy pronounce everyone equal. Both communism and capitalism believe that man is defined by materialism. Both communism and capitalism are global, borderless, atheist ideologies.

The fact that communism and democracy became allies to defeat fascism is a major tell, it betrays the fact that they have more in common with each other than they do with ethnic and cultural nationalism.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

That’s a fine post, and I agree with just about everything in it. My only major disagreement is that untrammeled capitalism produces wide wealth disparities, while communism, in the main, results in equal poverty for all. You are absolutely correct, however, in noting that both regard man as homo economicus.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Yeah, but in reality the Soviet nomenklatura and high-ranking Party members enjoyed a similar disparity in wealth. They had chauffeured limousines, private jet travel, offices in the Kremlin, dachas in Crimea.

All supposedly owned by “the workers”… but it’s not as if some average schlub picking turnips on the collective farm ever got to use any of it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Correct. Although the nomenklatura was a considerably smaller sliver of Soviet society than were high-level capitalists in the US/AINO from ca. 1870 to the present.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Xman
11 days ago

“Soviet nomenklatura and high-ranking Party members enjoyed a similar disparity in wealth.” — Communism may have been bad at producing the goods and services consumers wanted, but it was quite good at limiting disparities in wealth. The sorts of in-kind privileges you cite in no way obviate this fact. Although I cannot speak specifically of the turnip pluckers, Soviet workers’ unions built rather nice resorts on the Black Sea for their members to spend their generous annual vacations at. Some middle class Muscovites even had dachas. Shortages existed due to misguided efforts to boost living standards by artificially raising salaries;… Read more »

tashtego
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
11 days ago

Yockey went into this subject in some depth and becomes more convincing each year that goes by since he pointed it out in the 40’s.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Great post!

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Let’s be clear here. They would have been fine with Fascism in Italy. It was what’s his name in Germany that communism and capitalism had a problem with. Fascism as far as I understand it is just as materialist as communism and capitalism. But what’s his name found a non-materialist issue to inflame the passions of the masses and it spun out of his personal control. The Gods of the Copybook Headings overshadow everything. And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tom K
12 days ago

They had a problem with what’s-his-name’s people before what’s-his-name came along; his relatives in Russia (and the United Kingdom) were the first targets, but remember, Russia was a staging ground for the attack on Germany.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Alzaebo
12 days ago

I was using communism and capitalism in the abstract. But assuming by “they” you mean who I think you mean, sure they did, and they still do. Look at the Middle East right now, they’re coming right out and saying it. But action begets reaction so that unnamed person unleashed a surge of pent-up anger that even he couldn’t control. He had to ride that wave or it would swamp him. Strictly from a historical perspective, that’s what’s always going to happen.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tom K
12 days ago

I would argue that fascism–either left or right–is far more spiritual and cultural than communism and capitalism, or better still, liberal democracy.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Does it merely leave some room for the spiritual or does it place that as its centerpiece? That’s why I said “as far as I understand it”. I admit I’m no scholar on the subject. I bought that book by Paul Gottfried but been too lazy to read it. Without opening the book, isn’t the idea of preserving “the people” its sort of central spiritual purpose? I guess I’m closer to that than anything else but only for existential reasons, existential in the crass sense, not because I feel much tug of emotion anymore in being American and the manipulations… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tom K
12 days ago

I think the cultural-spiritual nexus is central to fascism. The corporatist, or even capitalist economy is a means to a healthy cultural-spiritual end rather than the end itself.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Tom K
11 days ago

News from across the ocean— Re: Fascism This was an inconceivable concept to even posit to Italians up until fairly recently, but there are elements starting to nibble at the edges again now that enough ‘diversity’ has been dumped on her shores and they see the end game of this in UK, Sweden, and France particularly. Of course, the northern Italians which are analogous to the New England liberals and busy bodies descended from the Puritans, etc. howl about this. Meloni is trying to resurrect the ideas of “the other bad guy, the bald one” when she is simply implying… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Depends on what you mean by “capitalism”. If Marx’s caricature of it, sure. If it just means “you do with your stuff what you will” it is neither inherently materialist nor atheist. After all, without private property, “Thou shalt not steal” is meaningless, and any deity who decreed such an absurdity is a moron.

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Xman
Xman
Reply to  Steve
11 days ago

It’s not entirely a caricature. The capitalist doesn’t give a damn that it’s somebody’s sister or daughter that he’s hiring for his porn film as long as he makes money off it. The capitalist will flood his own country with illiterate brown immigrants if he can hire them for cheaper than native whites. The capitalist doesn’t give a damn if your white five-year old goes homeless after you get evicted when he gives you the layoff notice. The things that the Progressives bitched about a century ago were real — company towns, no regard for worker safety, lowest possible wages,… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Xman
11 days ago

Wait, what!?!?!?!

Capitalism says nothing about WHAT you value. You could value money over everything else. You could value family over everything else. You could value self over everything else. You could also value Mother Gaia over everything else.

It’s a goddam lie that I don’t give a rat’s ass about how a society is arranged!

Don’t believe everything the Joos tell you. Think for yourself, FFS!

ray
ray
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Absolutely. And egalitarianism (equality) is an atheistic principle. There are no ‘equals’ in the kingdom of heaven.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
12 days ago

The churches are in trouble.

The faith is not. People are walking away from their churches, not their faith. A reformation of some sort is on the way. America is doomed without faith, morality and ethics. Without them, the nation collapses, and one will rise in its place that DOES have morals and ethics.

Prettylady!
Prettylady!
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

That’s where the Vatican2 church comes in. It’s a loose structure that can hold all “faiths” even opposing ones.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Prettylady!
12 days ago

Maybe we get many to fund Archbishop Vigano to come to America and to lead a new Church.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  george 1
11 days ago

It would certainly be highly entertaining.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

Agreed. At least – for the short term. Christianity has been here multiple times in history. The Vatican has gone off its rocker, hucksters sold indulgences and theological favors and fake religious trinkets, regimes declared war on the faith and did their level best to stamp it out. Christianity always survives. The church adapts, new leaders arise, schisms form. The good ones survive, the bad ones die out. The faith will not be defeated by faggots, troons, communists or jews. We are seeing this in Russia as we speak. The Orthodox church is back in force and even Putler respects… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Filthie
12 days ago

“We have no structure, no real organization, no places to meet and greet and share fellowship…”

All this starts in our own backyards, with family, friends, neighbors. We can donate what we can afford to righteous activists and charities. What matters above all is God’s favor.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Filthie
10 days ago

Been trying for the last 13 years Brother and it been a slow go because one White People still don’t see the need of Tribe(though that’s changing now since the scamdemic) and it’s still comfortable for most since they can still put things on a credit card…

Ride-By Shooter
Ride-By Shooter
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

Christianity is a wrong answer from the past no matter what shape it takes or is given. Most of it comes from a toxic well that needs to be filled in and marked with warning signs for the benefit of subsequent generations. 230 yrs ago, Thomas Paine wrote some ideas about religious revolution in The Age of Reason, Part I (about 50 pages of text). He was excoriated by many, including VP John Adams who called Paine a blackguard for his slicing, dicing blasphemy. TP, a creationist, had no love for the nazi scribbling of Israel, so he deserves to… Read more »

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Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Filthie
12 days ago

Was talking about this yesterday with my wife. How a lot of churches just seem to be offering spiritual milk, no real development or assistance for members – but the pastor and his clique gets rich.

However, when you look at the charities active here and around the world (e.g. Samaritan’s Purse), Christians are there on the front lines, putting their faith into practice. I don’t see Muslim or Jewish charities lining up to provide hurricane relief in North Carolina!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jannie
12 days ago

I believe Muslims and Jews reserve the vast majority of their charity for their own kind. Christianity, however, as is its ecumenical wont, is just as likely to prefer non-Christians for charity. And I say that as a Christian.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Depends on the charity. Any worth their salt will let you decide which campaign your money goes to.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Sad, innit? I left the church I attended at that time when they decided that rather than contribute towards the hurricane damage in Florida, they were going to fund the lesser hurricane damage in Haiti.

F ’em.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jannie
12 days ago

But what you say seems precisely against the theme of White solidarity at home.

Your example, Samaritan’s Purse, is my example as well. It’s a good example of a bad example. They take their donations from the USA and use those donations in efforts around the world—and they are proud of it and use such external efforts in fund raising here in America.

This aspect of Christian “fellowship” must first be addressed as I can’t rectify it with the DR as we speak about it here.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

You can stipulate where you want your donations to go.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jannie
12 days ago

That is a falsehood as money is fungible. So you tell them your donation is for American relief only, they just send their other funds— that *would* have gone to “American” relief—overseas.

As the Red Cross showed during 9/11, they can’t be trusted. The Red Cross had so much money specifically raised after 9/11, they refused to distribute it all to the 9/11 victims—claiming it was needed for “futures”—and then were caught upgrading their computer infrastructure with *excess* donations.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
10 days ago

And buying homes in Hollywood…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jannie
12 days ago

My sole problem with the charities doing good work in North Carolina is that – as usual – I cannot rely on anything I give going solely to local White people. There’s a church being pushed on YT that’s raising money for Christmas gifts for kids, and I seriously considered donating. BUT . . . Mestizos have infiltrated North Carolina just like everywhere else, and I’ve read about many cases where official assistance is prioritizing brown people. I’ll be damned if I’m giving my husband’s hard-earned money to see it used to buy gifts for Jorge and Maria.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

3g4me. That pretty much sums up why I can no longer donate to most any organized charity. I tried in the past and was always made a fool of. The last to be let go were those of Christian faith, whereas I now see should have been the first to go. Wife still likes to donate to a couple of weird organized charities, but that amounts to a few dollars or so. Not worth getting upset over. Her purchases of such “indulgences” is cheaper than a lunch out. I still feel bad (guilt?) as my Parochial upbringing was against such… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

My wife donates to animal rescue, wildlife preserves and suchlike. I don’t mind inasmuch as I don’t think that money is being intentionally diverted to black bears and black panthers in the Black Canyon of the Gunnison…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Yes, possibly—and I recognize your wry sense of humor in this comment. However, many of these eco-charities lobby for many ideas that are against common sense and maximum effectiveness.

For example, there are certain charitable organizations that want to stop hunting or farming and leave the earth to “Nature”. Bad idea. Then there are other that pay farmers and ranchers to use their land in less environmentally destructive ways—win/win.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
11 days ago

Compsci: I like animals and nature as much as anyone, but as you wisely note, most of the eco-charities worship gaia (creation rather than creator) and see people (White people in particular) as the problem. Plus they have way too many insane women in their ranks and anyone who refers to pets as ‘fur babies’ is not my friend. It’s better to support local small farmers and ranchers than any national charity.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
11 days ago

No doubt. However, the wifey donates to very small charities whose scope is very precise. They don’t endeavor to change the world, but rather to help specific animals in need.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

They don’t have to prioritize non-whites. Non-whites are far more likely to be needy than whites, therefore they will soak up a disproportionate amount of charitable giving. And this is one reason I never “round up for the children” when checking out at the grocery store.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

My, albeit small answer, is to reward/donate to those I come into direct contact with. For example, wait staff. At my supermarket, they hire “bag boys”, some who have mental disabilities. I never use self checkout and I tip the bag boy—and that’s a hell of a lot cheaper than that person going on welfare!

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

I hear you. I’ve switched to donating blood directly at the hospital rather than the much more convenient Red Cross after they spent all that money importing Central and South Americans, and everyone else they could find in the Darien Gap.

I’m not as adamant about who it gets used on, mostly because there are still no minorities in my AO other than some damn micks 😉 but more that I’m a local, local, local guy. Charity begins at home.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

I was barred from donating blood for years since I lived in the UK for a year albeit decades ago (mad cow disease panic), and I’ve known for decades that the Red Cross is not to be trusted. At this point I trust neither civic nor religious charities unless they are solely local (and I mean town/county local, not even statewide). I don’t want to donate blood for a drug addict or a sexual deviant. We give to our small, local church and I gave to provide Thanksgiving food to a local family. That’s the only scale I am comfortable… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  3g4me
11 days ago

I stopped giving blood to the Red Cross after doing so every quarter for about a decade when they hired the wife of then Senator Bob Dole for $500k a year in about 1996. She then spent $200k redoing her office there.
Smacked too much of Big Mike Obama.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

The Red Cross, like all major corporate charities (Susan G. Komen, United Way, etc.), are part of the Power Structure, and as such, are to be unhesitatingly abominated.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  3g4me
11 days ago

It’s actually worse than that. Most charities now are little more than money laundering operations or organizations who specialize in fraud. It would not surprise me in the slightest to learn some toy charity doesn’t buy from regular wholesalers, but a special “wholesaler” set up for the charity to buy the toys at 25% above retail. Then, like you said, they find the brown/black kids to give the toys to, preferably on TV. Even charities that do actual work often exacerbate the harms they are meant to fight. Or they spend the money in some other part of the world… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Filthie
12 days ago

I don’t know about everybody else, but I have become more religious ever since I stopped going to church. I have a greater understanding of the Bible and the fundamental conflict between the Old and New Testaments, viz. the fundamental conflict between Judaism and Christianity. Having been totally shafted by arrogant liars and hypocrites myself a few times, I have much greater empathy for what Christ went through when he was framed by the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin. Having seen government SWAT teams murder numerous people such as Randy Weaver’s wife and son over the years, I now understand what… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Church is fellowship. Think of it as a big AA meeting. However, some folk do not need such and seem to do alright. I agree with you. On the other hand, your background probably predicts such independence as does mine.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Other than I haven’t gone full Marcion, yeah.

You went full Marcion, man. Never go full Marcion.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Xman
11 days ago

As a former devout atheist – I hear you. Most atheists cannot discern between the faith and the church. I was blown away when I met real Christians – the guys that walk the walk AND talk the talk. I have yet to meet an atheist that has studied the bible in depth. They don’t understand even what the bible is. They take it as a means of control and oppression when all it is – is a user’s manual for the human soul. It is the voice of our ancestors, and it laid the foundations for the most affluent… Read more »

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Xman
9 days ago

This should be up voted a lot further!

I think church as a concept has its merits, but I agree it isn’t valuable in itself alone.

ray
ray
12 days ago

Yup.

Reminds me of Morrison’s ‘This is the End’. It’s a truthful song — take it from a beautiful friend — but fails to look beyond.

Poor Jimbo saw the future clearly, and just couldn’t handle it, so he cracked open another Jack Daniels and headed to the check-out counter. Made reservations at the last resort.

The only answer is to work towards something greater than yourself and your moment. Tends to keep things productive.

Ne'er Do Well
Ne'er Do Well
12 days ago

“The American economic system is a ticking timebomb just waiting for someone to cut the wrong wire.”

Do the (((people))) who have set up the current situation know what will happen next? Or are they simply happy that Whitey is finally going to be (completely) displaced from power?

You are right Z man; we are at the end of a Spenglerian cycle, and it cannot be reversed. I just want to know if the “end” leads to a Dresden-like end, or a universal Detroit-like end.

I guess we’ll know in a couple of weeks.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Ne'er Do Well
12 days ago

Those who have brought us to the current state of affairs seek only to render their hosts incapable of resisting the takeover of the society for their own purposes. The hosts’ eventual fate is of no concern. They make this quite clear in their pat response to any questioning of their behavior by describing some existential threat faced by their ancestors in centuries past. So, no, they have not thought about what will become of us.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ne'er Do Well
12 days ago

“Do the (((people))) who have set up the current situation know what will happen next?”

They have no fucking idea. They’re high on their own supply. Hubris is a thing, especially if you’ve been “God’s Chosen People” for four thousand years.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

Not to worry, they’ll still blame us.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
12 days ago

By now, everyone should realize that none of this will end well. Too many delusional, narcissistic, and psychopathic POS in Government and half the population have pretty much closed the door on that. Eventually the Overton Window will be so wide, that the sane will decide that ALL of the aforementioned trash mentioned here will have to be removed from the country with extreme prejudice, no matter what, no matter how. The worms gotta eat, too..

Tars Tarkas
Member
12 days ago

“The answer to the ongoing madness from the people we call the left is some form of “We just have to go back to…” that can never happen, so we continue to swirl in the churn of decline.” There is no answer for the future that doesn’t involve aspects of the past. Not trying to reincarnate the past, but applying lessons learned looking at the past. This is not year zero. We cannot close the door to the past even if we wanted to. We are all prisoners of the past. Attempts to break free from the past and generate… Read more »

Bitter reactionary
Bitter reactionary
12 days ago

Ironically, it’s the End that should be embraced, rather than lamented. America is too far gone to fix. I’m amazed how many elderly whites are totally disconnected from reality, living in the Progs’ mental prison without questioning it for an instant. The ruin of AINO will be like the forest fire that clears away brush and dead wood. Once it’s really falling apart the outsiders will stop coming, and many may even return home. A breakup might become feasible, followed by internal migration-segregation. The stupid refusal to “see race” will become even more of a death sentence, and the attitude… Read more »

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Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
12 days ago

To be fair to the elderly, they lived under that mental prison their whole life, they were subject to the extreme social engineering and propaganda undertaken by the government in the 1950s and 1960s, and, well, they prospered materially in that prison. They’ve never lived in a world where that mental prison didn’t deliver them peace and prosperity, freedom to travel as they see fit, etc. So it’s important to acknowledge that Pax Americana has been very, very good for a lot of people. Rank and file people, regular normies, the type of people it does not help anymore and… Read more »

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mycale
12 days ago

Mycale: Yes and no – I’m officially ‘elderly’ (I hate that euphemism – I’m OLD) but that doesn’t mean I have to be stupid. I changed many of my beliefs in late middle age by being willing to read and learn and consider non-approved opinions and sources. I prospered – when younger – within the system, but I can still see it wants my White sons dead. Most people accept a set of beliefs (from parents, peers, etc.) when young and then never change or revisit them when circumstances change. Growing old does not have to equal dull intransigence.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  3g4me
11 days ago

Most people go along to get along. It is what it is. They also, as the COVID plandemic proved, just want to be told what to do. I know Bush got heat back in the day for telling people to “go shopping” after 9/11, but that was totally on brand for Pax Americana and probably the only advice that the regime would ever give.

Very few people are willing and open to changing their entire worldview and coming to understand the nature of the cave they’ve been living in. Including the very successful… heck maybe especially the very successful.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  3g4me
11 days ago

” I prospered – when younger – within the system,…”

I picked up on this comment. I too owe everything to the “system”, however I’ve only now began rid myself of blind allegiance to that system. It’s a long process…

Red October
Red October
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
11 days ago

I’m curious, so the people who paid for the illegals to come here will generously fund their return? Unfortunately I don;t think so because even prison here is better than their home, and as long as there are even a few white people to suck hind teat off of or give out the days work orders etc..

Maniac
Maniac
12 days ago

God has disposed of some spiritual and emotional rubbish that I’ve been clinging to for a long time this year and replaced it with faith and calm. No reason He won’t do the same for you guys. As Jeff Bridges said in [I]Starman[/I]: you’re at your very best when things are worst.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Maniac
12 days ago

“you’re at your very best when things are worst.”

Which is why i’m not worried. To win, you must be able to overcome your fear of death. That is the game we are now in. Based on how half or more of the country reacted to 2020, i’m not worried. A quarter of them will starve waiting for rescue, another quarter will resort to crime and killing the other quarter of virtue signalers. That leaves 25% of them that might be capable of resistance.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. House
12 days ago

If death was all there was to fear, then there would be nothing to fear

TomA
TomA
12 days ago

The hardest truth. We cannot solve the core problem with words alone. It’s going to get existential, and it cannot be any other way. We have to earn our rebirth via tangible actions. And those actions are going to be unpleasant. Mano-a-mano, the old fashion way. “Today is a good day to die.” The enemy is few and protected by a mirage. They are not real men. They will buckle and flee with the first shot. No quarter, no mercy. It must be done.

Bitter reactionary
Bitter reactionary
Reply to  TomA
12 days ago

I like the spirit of this comment and hope it is accurate. That said, I’ve read quite a few accounts of the nitty gritty details of the Spanish Civil War, Russian Revolution, Finnish Red Terror, etc., and it seems the effete Leftist trash at the top always manage to dig up a large number of rough and ready mass murderers at the street level everywhere they set up shop. Indeed, the stories amaze in terms of how many amoral killers are always enlisted to commit the unspeakable. I think we would do well to avoid letting ourselves be surprised by… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
11 days ago

Indeed. They always find jackboots somewhere to fill the ranks of their thugacracy. This mostly occurs via mercenary hires and will likely include many illegals promised citizenship in exchange for their brutality. And there will also be patriotic militia types to confront them. All of that will become the fog of war and chaos. Against that background, our duty is to become the bolt-from-the-blue focused at the root of the problem. And it won’t take many successes to ignite the parasite exodus stampede.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
11 days ago

The recent hysteria over the p*andemic are all the proof one needs of what you just said.

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
9 days ago

They can always wrangle someone to do their dirty work because at least you know you’ll get paid. What does the flock of rubes gain by supporting The Greatest Ally or the GOP? two tenths of F. all. It’s an entirely parasitic relationship. There is no level of depravity for which an antifa won’t be bailed out by some arm of greater libtardism, but if you go to J6 to bat for Orange Julius he’ll throw you under the bus, and the tard contingent will denounce you and burn their money on black scammers in maga hats. And regarding ruthlessness,… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
12 days ago

Zman is correct. The wages of Christ are cuckdom. One might argue it was not always so, and that “real Christianity” just like “real Communism” has not been tried, or whatever, but the fact remains that Christianity is now inseparable from cuckdom and in fact demands it. As it pains me to say. Thus for White people it will fade away. There have been beliefs trying to fill this hole: Wiccanism, neo-Paganism but they appeal respectively to a few Lesbian Wine Witches and various gay dudes. Not much there to find meaning and comfort and a moral way of living… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Whiskey
12 days ago

The Springfield Haitians story gave us a surprise clue that finally, after decades of the TV pretending it’s out there menacing everybody already, white rage has become truly expected. In the news clip of the local Job Creator (PBUH) telling us why he’s replaced all his white workers with afro-retards who can’t plausibly do anything profitably, he recites a litany of reasons why white people suck and shouldn’t be employed by anyone, mostly the usual stuff you hear from Republicans, they’re lazy and on meth, etc. Mostly. Now, this dude is nowhere near smart enough to observe anything or think… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
12 days ago

Another thing we did was give every bad idea we were sold a fair hearing. I mean we tried, we really tried, gave ’em their shot. We were told we could be gooder, or better, or less bad, or a new people, if only we tried it their way. Turns out their ideas of us- and of themselves- were only based on a caricature. Every claim made was a false promise by someone who wanted to be more than we are. Every depiction of our sins was also a fevered imagination. So now, we know what not to do. Don’t… Read more »

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Hoagie
Hoagie
12 days ago

I have never heard  “the ongoing madness from the people we call the left is some form of “We just have to go back to…” Leftists never say they want to “go back” to anything. It would reveal their failures en masse. It’s like asking leftist tree huggers how many of their predictions came true. Now conservatives do pine for the past in some things: religion, education, Pax Americana and such. Never leftists.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

The “paradoxical” unity of left and capital: You have to throw away everything, all the time, over and over again, to sustain us. About once a day I still see a MAGA guy point out how insert shitlib thing leads to increased inequality (the “millionaires become billionaires and the average family can’t buy meat” kind, not the “women are bad at geometry” kind). “Aren’t the far left supposed to be against that?” I don’t remember the last time they even pretended they were. “We have to go back” is the best available resistance. More than any other kind, it worries.… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Hemid
12 days ago

Record companies are spending billions of dollars to buy back catalogs of prominent boomers. I see no evidence that they are scared of that, but are more worried if they cannot monetize it properly.

“We have to go back” doesn’t work if you’re afraid of being called every name in the book, which the conservacucks are. You can’t go back to Reagan era if you’re not willing to go back to a time when homosexuals were in the closet, and of course the conservacucks are fully on board LGBT these days.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

Sure, but is “going back” worse than repeatedly stating we need to go into an unknown future? What is that future? Or even what do we desire it to be?

orca
12 days ago

The girlfriend: “What are you laughing about in there?”

……The Ike Turner vote………..LePen loves Jerry Lewis……. Z drops in these perfectly timed cultural references right when you least expect it

terranigma
terranigma
11 days ago

Speaking of a confluence of events and the end of things, the programmers in the room may enjoy this. I was introduced to Wolfram’s Theory of Everything the other day, and in articulating why his theory does not work, I almost explained how we got to this present End of Things from a logical standpoint. Z-Man’s podcast brought forward the rest. A central claim of the Enlightenment and Classical Liberalism is that we can organize societies purely through logic. This is the same thing as saying “identity does not matter”, because all logic systems are closed systems with no external… Read more »

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  terranigma
11 days ago

Wolfram should put his money where his mouth is and just out with ‘Fiat Lux!’ and see what happens. Undoubtedly a brilliant man, but remain perpetually surprised that his ego doesn’t have an event horizon.

Gauss
Gauss
11 days ago

While it is true that most government entities (federal, state, and local) are inept and can’t do their jobs, Florida has been an exception — at least for now. I live on the west coast of Florida. Both Helene and Milton affected our area: Helene mostly by flooding (storm surge) and Milton both flooding (heavy rains and surge) and strong winds. Our county government has been surprisingly competent, including working with the power company to restore power. Over half of the residents lost power but almost everyone was restored within days. A huge amount of debris was produced in both… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Gauss
11 days ago

Florida is the only state I have lived in (out of 6) where visiting the DMV was fast, easy, and efficient.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
11 days ago

Yep, AZ here did a good one to me last year. They set up “on line” appointments. I got one, arrived, and was told to stand in a line–of those having appointments. There was two lines, appointments and non-appointments–both equally long.

In my appointment line, there was no calling out as to who was scheduled when, just a drone yelling “next”. When I spoke to others in line it was apparent that we were a mixture of those with earlier appointments and later appointments. Not any different than the second line and both lines were served equally–poorly.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
11 days ago

While I appreciate the sentiment, my experience is that if you visit a DMV in a rural area, with Heritage American employees, one gets in and out.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Gauss
11 days ago

I supported DeSantis initially because of his record of competence in Florida and also the “Trumpism without Trump” thing. DS turned out to be disappointing and also could not figure out a way to separate the Trumper Republicans from Trump (whom I regard as completely untrustworthy). What should have been a runaway for Republicans after the last four years and the pathetic Dem candidate is a horse race because of the negatives associated with Trump. The frustrating part is that the whole TDS thing is absurd, since Trump has shown himself to be a part of the system and not… Read more »

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Dutchboy
9 days ago

If Trump is not a threat to the system, why has the system gone bat-guano crazy trying to get rid of him?

Tom K
Tom K
12 days ago

The past we remember as children is the only thing we can’t go back to. The nostalgic past. That’s merely a remembrance of trite silly things. We must and will go back to the past for the enduring ideas that will shape our future.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tom K
12 days ago

I don’t consider the childhood I enjoyed in the 70s and early 80s to be silly at all. Quite the opposite. Its small delights and emolliuments were what made life grand. As for the present, it is far beyond silly. It is preposterous to a risible level. And I ache that little white boys and girls, far from experiencing the joys that I did, are instead being subject to the ministrations of anti-white enforcers of an increasingly hideous reality.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
11 days ago

The 70s and 80s were especially trite and silly. The 50s and 60s when I grew up we had the assassinations, the threat of nuclear war, and the Vietnam war. But the 50s and 60s had a lot of triteness and silliness too.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tom K
11 days ago

After Reagan got elected, the 80s really did feel like, “Morning in America.”

It did not hurt that popular movies and music, consciously or unconsciously, largely fed into this zeitgeist.

Another factor that helped was the simultaneous emergence and convergence of multiple technologies that positively impacted most aspects of society.

I was a young child that lived in Main Street, USA in those days. It still felt like living in the future.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Tom K
11 days ago

Why “trite” and “silly?” What do those words mean to a 12-year-old boy, who can spend his summers from morning until dusk with his male friends, riding their bicycles here and there, playing sports, building forts and backyard pools, playing Strat-o-Matic Baseball, no phones, no computers, no electronics except for record players on which they’d play their older brother’s rock albums and 45s on rainy July days? Not a parent in sight, not a girl or woman in sight, not a single person to hector them or lecture them or try to mess with their minds, or call their activities… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
11 days ago

No I didn’t miss out on it. I’m glad I had the luxury of a trite and silly childhood. But the tone and temper of it was worlds apart from today. In other words, there were actual lessons towards adulthood in the follies of adolescence, unlike today where you’re never expected to grow up. Trite and silly is a good thing as long as it doesn’t become an enforced sanitized reenactment of what kids should be doing in Mommy’s mind.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tom K
11 days ago

Expanding on the idea of lessons, remember kids’ shows and cartoons in the ’80s?

Yes, many of them were ads for toys. However, there were many episodes of those shows that did have moral arcs in their plots.

There were even shows like G.I. Joe that had separate public service announcement segments which attempted to teach a moral lesson to the kids watching.

Now it seems as though all popular media is just a stealth delivery mechanism for communist nihilism and degeneracy.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Tom K
9 days ago

What would you have done as a child if you childhood was not “trite”?

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
11 days ago

It was the last really happy time for childhood (esp. boys) in this country.

Prettylady!
Prettylady!
12 days ago

Europeans would talk about how America was the envy of the world for our freedom and love of individuality.

It’s like waking up in a nightmare; I only remember Reagan as a child and young adult and everything was so optimistic. But looking back, everything was in place for our destruction, and why should Reagan care he was an old man and lived his life. This little talk he gives here is ultimate despair disguised as optimism:

https://www.niussp.org/video/open-doors-for-the-american-dream-reagans-last-speech-as-president-1989/

Prettylady!
Prettylady!
Reply to  Prettylady!
12 days ago

One of the great tricks of the devil was pitting the Soviet Union against the American empire, as between good and evil

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Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Prettylady!
12 days ago

One interesting symbolic note: Reagan’s last public address was at the 1992 GOP Convention in Houston. He was the headline speaker for the evening. Future Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson introduced him — but she had to introduce Pat Buchanan first, who preceded Reagan at the podium: “Tonight we hear from two Great Communicators.” Buchanan’s speech pushed Reagan past 11 pm on the East Coast, and the network commentators went bananas after Pat’s speech and barely mentioned Reagan in the lead-in. It was nostalgia for Reagan that kept Buchanan from succeeding (and a lot more, of course); people didn’t want to… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
12 days ago

Kay Hutchinson was a standard Texas repuke, just like John Cornyn. Total waste of space. One of many things that helped cure me of believing in any political participation was dealing with (and briefly volunteering for) the repukes in Texas.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
12 days ago

Even in the heyday of empire, there were critics and artists who had a more ambivalent view of it. I’m reminded of James Rosenquist’s 1961 picture, which I think I saw in some DC gallery over twenty years ago:

https://www.jamesrosenquiststudio.com/artwork/6102-president-elect

It’s only with rose-tinted nostalgia that peak empire is viewed with longing.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Arshad Ali
12 days ago

It’s only with rose-tinted nostalgia that peak empire is viewed with longing.


Or maybe its marveling that you used to grumble about the wear on the linoleum while you’re burning alive as the elites nail the remaining windows shut?

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
11 days ago
  1. In Russian, Ivan the Terrible is “Ivan Grozny,” meaning “inspiring fear or terror; dangerous; powerful.”
  2. The IMF now ranks Russia’s economy as 4th largest, just above Japan’s, according to Purchasing Power Parity: https://www.intellinews.com/russia-overtakes-japan-to-become-the-fourth-largest-economy-in-the-world-in-ppp-terms-328108/
RealityRules
RealityRules
12 days ago

One of the encouraging things about our movement is that some have consciously set themselves up as a funnel. So, some who you may think are not on our side are; they are just playing it smart and not charging with a sabre alone into a fifty deep army of redcoats.

That said, Rufo, is clearly a leftist. He is a leftist whose victories are pyrrhic and whose fight is performative.

Bilejones
Member
11 days ago

Thanks for the laugh, in these times I need them wherever I can get them. The idea that Americans are constantly working to make things better while European slobs are idle was the best joke I’ve seen in a while. It certainly explains why all the discerning people are abandoning their Porsche’s BMW,s Mercedes’, Bentley’s, Aston Martins, Ferrari’s etc for Cadillac’s and Corvettes just as soon as they can afford them. How they live with only two holders per car is a mystery. Similarly German machine tools: The Machines that make machines stopped owning the US market due to the… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
11 days ago

”Zohrab Jabroni” is a keeper.

Thanks.

the oneirocrat
the oneirocrat
11 days ago

Life is God’s attempt at making grey look exciting.
It may well be that we shy away from Truth because infinite boredom sucks.

“It was the time, it seems / We shared the sweetest of all dreams / We knew by every little tear / Some times the price of love is fear.”
in Timeless Times (Baumgartner/Frierson) by De-Phazz

We ought to be prepared for the fact that finding Truth may be, like Truth itself, kinda underwhelming.

usNthem
usNthem
11 days ago

Despite the obvious decline in religion/religiosity, we can at least (for now) still marvel at the magnificent massive monuments built to honor to those faiths.

Yep, Americanism always wanted to improve on the last best thing – it was never quite good enough and could always be incrementally improved. Yeah, right…

Goose + beaver = platypus = hilarious! Well done.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  usNthem
11 days ago

Duck-face toxic beavers were just a coded harbinger of the Instathot End Times.