Buckley On Sobran

Joe Sobran is arguably the first person hurled into the void in a process that eventually was called cancel culture. His primary sins were skepticism about Israel as our greatest ally and suspicions about the motivations of the neocons. It was the neocons who successfully campaigned to have Sobran branded a heretic and run out of the conservative movement.

Looking back four decades on, you see all the ingredients for what became a widespread form of domestic terrorism in the last decade. Interestingly, all of it is in what Bill Buckley thought was his best book. It is a collection of his essays on the topic of antisemitism, as well as his famous finking on friends like Joe Sobran and Pat Buchanan at the request of his new benefactors.

Reading Buckley’s version of the Sobran affair, what comes through is that all politics in a democracy are theater. Buckley felt he had to debase himself, his friends and even his own family in order to remain on the stage. The reason for that is the stage managers had an agenda that agenda was anathema to the human spirit and traditions conservatism allegedly represented.

In the show I take a much tougher tone with Buckley, but upon reflection I do not think he was a soulless political operator. Even though he treated Joe Sobran horribly, Sobran thought well of Bill Buckley until the end. It is a good reminder that you can think well of someone in the whole, even though they have done you wrong, in your view, over a particular issue. Even the best men have terrible flaws.

All that said, it was Buckley’s decision to cancel Sobran that gave us this now familiar model for controlling the public square. Even today, public officials feel they must publicly swear loyalty to Israel for fear of being cancelled. This noxious effluvium even hangs over the tribe we call the left. The great terror that haunts public discourse got started with Buckley hurling Joe Sobran into the void.


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  • Intro
  • The Past Is Prologue
  • Joe Sobran
  • The MacGuffin
  • Bill Buckley & Antisemitism
  • The Cancel Process
  • Sobran The MacGuffin

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TempoNick
TempoNick
6 hours ago

I can’t say this often enough and loudly enough:

FVCK ISRAEL!

I’m sick and tired of having that country in my face each and every day of my life. I can’t turn on the news without hearing about fvcking Israel! EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. OF. MY. LIFE.

It’s just like how gay propaganda has to be in our face all the time.

STOP!

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NoName
NoName
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

Well there’s always them great big honkin’ Khazarian Milkers to slap around…

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Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  NoName
1 hour ago

You gotta control yourself, there are plenty of Romanian women just as big.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  TempoNick
6 hours ago

Yes. It’s annoying that the Zionist-controlled government and the Zionist-controlled media treat Israel as if it were the 51st state. Better than that, actually — they pay far more attention to Israel than they do to West Virginia or Kansas. That being said I do not hate Israel per se so much as I hate the incessant pro-Israeli propaganda and the Israeli ownership of Congress. In true Monroe Doctrine fashion, I don’t think is is any of our business to care about Israel one way or the other, nor for that matter to care about the Palestinians or the Syrians… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Xman
3 hours ago

I feel the same way. I have no particular animosity towards it, I’m just sick of hearing about it and how their problems become our problems. The whole islamic world hates us because of the toxic relationship we have with them.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 hours ago

Yes, but it’s not as if the Islamic world has anything much to offer other than oil… I DGAF about them and much as I DGAF about Zionism.

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Xman
2 hours ago

I’ve always said that it was only natural for Jews to lobby for things in their own interest and that it doesn’t bother me. What always rubbed me the wrong way was the Republicans in Congress, like those waving Israel flags and not even being Jews, who rub me the wrong way. They act like Uncle Toms and now I understand why blacks truly used to hate their own house knee grows.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  TempoNick
1 hour ago

-“I’ve always said that it was only natural for Jews to lobby for things in their own interest and that it doesn’t bother me.” Superficially I would agree with that, but Zionism is a different matter altogether because Zionism is the fulfillment of the Jewish religion and the Mosaic covenant. As such I think that official U.S. support of Zionism and the State of Israel violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. It’s the equivalent of giving $4 billion a year in taxpayer money to Saudi Arabia to maintain Mecca as the holy city and to keep the dhimmi… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Xman
1 minute ago

“…the financial support and political fealty we pay Israel is profoundly un-American.”

They would consider the aid we give anyone profoundly un-American. Kind of like someone (@3g4me?) cited about Crockett a few days back.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

We’re all tired of MIGA. Besides being incredibly annoying and degrading, the whole Israel, Israel, Israel schtick feels retrograde. It’s another example of a 20th century phenomenon that just won’t die. You can feel the world moving on. Israel is the Zelensky of countries. This little piece of shi$ who won’t shut up, has never-ending demands and causes the world endless – and needless – trouble. Just as the US and Russia are pushing Zelensky aside, I’d suspect that the world will slowly push Israel aside. Sure, they’ll continue to control our Congress. We seem incapable of slapping them down.… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 hours ago

Iran will never be fine until they test a nuke. While nobody sane wants to see more nuclear states, what other choice do they have? A major war in Iran would have major world effects. The price of oil would likely double.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 hours ago

You’d think that the oil issue would be enough to keep the Israeli – and the American – lunatics at bay. If oil hits $120 or higher due to a war, the whole global system shuts down.

It’s this kind of madness that makes me think that the Chinese and other emerging powers are going to feel the need to take the keys away from Israel and its American golem.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 hour ago

Unfortunately, the elite learned all the wrong lessons from Covid. It used to be that there were some checks on ideology because the elite knew that if the party they backed wrecked the economy in the name of some grandiose cause, they would get voted out and then those icky dirt people would get some of what they wanted. Covid taught them that you can do whatever you like and just plaster over the economic effects with billions in money conjured out of nowhere. There’s also the consolidation of the two big parties into the Uniparty that allows the elite… Read more »

Marko
Marko
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

My senator Rick Scott was doing some video in his office that was unrelated to Israel, yet there was a giant Israel flag on the wall behind him. I understand that Florida has lots of Jews and if you get donor bux from them, you’re going to support their causes. But those giant and conspicuous flags? It’s so transparent, and tiresome. It’s to the point that I if a (((donor))) offered sexual services to his wife or daughter Rick’s first thought probably is, will this get me in trouble if I say no?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Marko
2 hours ago

We need to start calling these people out as Uncle Tom’s which is what they essentially are. Like I said above, I think now I understand why blacks hated their house knee-grows among their own.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  TempoNick
1 hour ago

Uncle Tevyas?

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

The Israel First agenda has gone into overdrive with Trump 2.0. The courts stop anything related to America First but never touch Israel First. The height of absurdity and submission was Kennedy labeling Anti Semitism as a health crisis.

There is a positive side to this though. The Israel First agenda combined with daily scenes of Jews killing children is making people notice who previously have not allowed themselves to notice.

It has become a good way to detect people with courage versus grifters.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  My Comment
4 hours ago

One good development has been the opening of discussion of The Lobby. Sure, their iron grip on Congress is as strong as ever, but, at least, we’re able to talk about it in the open now. It’s a first step.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

There is no upside to even mildly criticizing openly stated projects like “Greater Israel” from “America’s Greatest Ally”..but there are huge potential downsides.

On the longer timeline, I take some solace from the fact that there is a cyclical nature of the chosen living the high life and curb stomping their neighbors for 100 years…then get another 1000 years in the wilderness. Rise, repeat.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  TempoNick
1 hour ago

Our greatest ally. They are a straight up enemy and even a cursory review of the evidence will reveal that to anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size.

Lakelander
Lakelander
4 hours ago

I always post this Sobran classic when the non-Whites are whining about us on Twitter:“Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it.… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Lakelander
3 hours ago

Great stuff.

Xman
Xman
6 hours ago

This may be hearsay, but I’ve read that Buckley didn’t have nearly as much money as he appeared to have, and that National Review always operated at a loss and was kept afloat by wealthy benefactors. Buckley’s defenestration of the paleocons like Sobran and his denunciation of Buchanan may well tip us off to (((who))) those benefactors were. It’s also interesting that when the Catholic Buckley retired, he handed the reins of NR off to the (ahem) “non-Catholic” Jonah Goldberg. And finally Buckley was a CIA man, and we know that the Deep State manipulated the media for many years.… Read more »

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  Xman
6 hours ago

I have a friend who accuses everyone she doesn’t like of being an “agent”. And I’ve always been suspicious of this charge because people are not psychologically stable enough to just lie their whole lives. I’m not criticizing you I’m just wondering, how does being a cia man work? is there a phone call that was made? Weekly check ins? How do they coordinate messaging? How does the cia know Buckley isn’t going to have one to many g n ts and blab about it? theres a hundred more of these types of questions which is why I’ve always hesitated… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Hi-ya!
5 hours ago

It’s a great question, and I can’t say for sure, but journalists get information from government “sources” and those sources may be deliberately planting and/or withholding information. Probably not giving direct orders though.

Operation Mockingbird was widely believed to be a real thing, and we know that the FBI was censoring social media content on Facebook and Twitter during the Biden administration. So I don’t think it’s pure tinfoil-hat stuff to presume that the press isn’t as free as we are led to believe.

Operation Mockingbird – Wikipedia

FBI, White House likely coerced social media platforms: Appeals court

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Hi-ya!
2 hours ago

The CIA is full of professional liars. To take a famous and obvious case, we know that there are 51 intel spooks who have no compunction about very publicly lying to achieve some political goal. Even after being found out, they remain proud of what they did. Extrapolate from there. How many “journalists” are cut from that same cloth? How many senators? How many other times have they done this without anybody knowing any better? How far does this extend to the “rank and file”? To the average voter? I betcha no fewer than 2/3 of Harris voters would approve… Read more »

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Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Hi-ya!
2 hours ago

It would work the way any other form of corruption works. Play ball with us – and there’s lots of room in the Swamp to hide your payoffs and assets if ya know the right people. The friendly cop on the corner is owned by us – and we’ll make sure he doesn’t bother ya. No need to be covert about most of it. Everyone has friends who in turn have friends of friends. It’s a small club, and if you’re in it, everyone knows who and where you are and what you’re doing. Play ball and maybe a hot… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Hi-ya!
1 hour ago

It’s like the “Epstein client list.” We know exactly who’s on it but we demand it anyway, on official ruling class stationery. In the meantime (forever), everyone on it can go about his business, in no danger of encountering any people’s justice. Agents give themselves away all the time, accidentally or hubristically, and nobody really cares or does anything about it. They know this. There are guys in our thing we absolutely know are feds, characters of whom there is no other explanation. And we do nothing about it, while they go on—ever more smugly. As I’m sure I’ve said… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Hi-ya!
1 hour ago

I don’t think it takes nearly as much work as you think it does. You will frequently see “journalists” today say that none of their bosses ever told them what to say or write. And, yopu know what, I believe them. The “journalists” know where their bread is buttered and know what to say. They get access to sources that feed this info to them when needed and they get lots of praise and high salaries for doing so. So, it all works out. This dynamic goes on for so long enough, and Buckley can have any drinks and blab… Read more »

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Xman
5 hours ago

Look at how Churchill was used and manipulated due to his financial problems before WW2.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  David Wright
3 hours ago

When Lord Randolph Churchill died, he owed the Rothschilds 70,000 pounds, which would be $50 million today..That was forgiven with the apparent agreement of Winston to play ball for the jews…In the 1930s, the profligate Churchill would have lost his estate, but a South African billionaire bailed him out…Winston was owned…
Similarly, Buckley was controlled opposition…also vulnerable because he was a closet gay…

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Xman
3 hours ago

True. Buckley was not super wealthy. Some complained that he used money that was supposed to go to NR for personal use.

1660please
1660please
6 hours ago

The Sobran affair was important, but it was far from the first example of what was later called Cancel Culture! M. E. Bradford suffered a similar fate during the Reagan admin. And in “academia,” conservative/right-wing candidates for positions were being weeded out for consideration by the 80’s, and very probably earlier, just for their views. By the time Sobran lost his NR position, Political Correctness was already rampant. I was there.

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ray
ray
Reply to  1660please
3 hours ago

My experience was P.C. started in the unis and colleges in the mid-Seventies, and conquered by the late-Eighties. From there it spread to all the other institutions including, eventually, the military.

1660please
1660please
Reply to  ray
3 hours ago

Yes, that’s how I observed it happening. By the 70’s, lots of radical leftists were getting entrenched in colleges and universities, and able to do lots of damage. There were already many liberal faculty before that, but they tended to be more sympathetic to free speech than the later ones. I suspect that the turning point was in the 60’s when weak college administrators started letting the radicals have their way. Allan Bloom and others wrote about this. And as you said, the rot spread from colleges to all other institutions. The seeds of PC were planted earlier. Frankfurt School… Read more »

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  1660please
2 hours ago

All true. And all examples of how/why nothing can be ‘reformed’ or fixed with tinkering at the edges. Sure, get rid of the Dept. of Education. But the teachers’ certification programs and unions, the textbook publishers, and the people who start their political careers via the school board remain untouched and massive. The whole concept of universal and compulsive state-directed responsibility for children is as ‘left’ as it gets – and almost all good ‘murkins blithely entrust their 1.2 children to the borg.

Melissa
Melissa
5 hours ago

Thanks for a fantastic show, Z. It really was about envy. Sobran and Sam Francis were both brilliant writers who were banished because of envy.

Sobran’s New York Times headline “New York Destroyed by Earthquake; Women and Minorities Hit Hardest” is one of his best.

Trek
Trek
5 hours ago

For the last 25 years of his life, Buckley didn’t even care about politics. It was all about fame. Joe Sobran was a solid guy who wrote the forward for one of Bob Whitaker’s books. In the long run, Sobran, Francis and Whitaker will have great influence over this century. Buckley will have none.

Maxda
Maxda
4 hours ago

Tucker Carlson interviewed Rick Sanchez a few days ago. Both have been fired and hurled into the void by the same places. Comparing notes, they both agreed that they generally had journalistic freedom – as long as they never crossed the neo-cons.

They went right to the edge of noticing the real reason they couldn’t criticize our war machine – but wouldn’t say it. Could almost see the root cause hanging in the air around them in that interview.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Maxda
1 hour ago

Tucker, Rogan, etc. all know what the LINE is. They wouldn’t be allowed to broadcast at all if they crossed it.

Diversity Heretic
Member
5 hours ago

The second modern dollar coin (after the Susan B. Anthony debacle) had James Madison on the face. It was gold in color so that it was less easy to confuse with a quarter than the Susan B. Too bad it never caught on. Here in Europe the smallest bill is a five euro note. Insofar as Israel is concerned, it seems to me that the time has come and gone for there to be a Jewish state in the Levant. But for US support, Israel would have gone the way of the Crusader Kingdoms, and, as other commentators have noted,… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 hour ago

The problem with a dollar coin is it has little added utility beyond four quarters, which are easy to carry and a one dollar bill. They should mint a $2.50 coin. It would be similar to the German 5 mark piece, which was a very handy coin to carry back in the day before the Euro.

I will leave it for others to figure who should be on the coin. FWIW, I think the Sacajawea dollar coin is quite possibly the most beautiful coin ever minted. Don’t get me started on the current visual state of U.S. coinage. [It stinks].

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
6 hours ago

It is a good reminder that you can think well of someone in the whole, even though they have done you wrong, in your view, over a particular issue. Even the best men have terrible flaws. this is very well said and it’s heartening to know this about sobran. There’s a temptation to write people off and throw them out if their flaws do damage. Perhaps there is some distance that needs to be kept but to not forgive not speak to the person or hold a grudge for decades which can happen shows a lack of charity and indicates… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
3 hours ago

I’m looking forward to listening to this – but I listened to your last show with Paul Ramsey and the comments about the space program’s stagnation got me thinking about how it lines up with the stagnation of our industries and our culture as well. The space program was such a jolt of energy and innovation to our society and you can draw a straight line from it to the computing revolution and everything that came from it. But the space program became nonfunctional and a DEI boondoggle, our bureaucracies became totally soy and feminized, and now our culture and… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Mycale
1 hour ago

The heroic era of the space program was, to Kennedy’s great disgust, disproportionately the work of midwesterners—and Germans who looked like midwesterners.

Those people aren’t allowed to do things anymore, not prominent things where they can clearly be seen failing to “look like America.”

Our decline isn’t entirely reducible to that, but it almost is.

RealityRules
RealityRules
5 hours ago

The highest profile deportations and the reasons for them tell you everything. That and the professors and authors of advocacy for White genocide was never and is never criticized. Look at Eric Kauffman. He is a leading, “right winger.” Has the Speaker of The House ever given a speech like this on behalf of America and of Americans? https://pelosi.house.gov/news/press-releases/pelosi-remarks-at-aipac-conference-this-morning And of course, this one surrounded by her bosses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53x_zrkJwDs Note the corrections where she didn’t use the proper propaganda words. ‘How many time s do we have to correct you Nancy. It is not aid it is cooperation.’ Interesting choice… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  RealityRules
5 hours ago

I had a quick peek at the DoE EO slashing ceremony. Have a look at the opening with the kids. It is no different than a Netflix or DNC photo-op. You have to look very hard for a white boy. Finally you see him, at the outermost right flank and you squint, is he white or is he another hispanic. But the black, the super fat girl, the Latinx’s and the little boy in his beanie cap are all there front and center.

They hate us. They all hate us.

ray
ray
Reply to  RealityRules
3 hours ago

Spiteful. Mutants. They’ll destroy everything if tolerated, much less empowered.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RealityRules
2 hours ago

It might also be all they can “bus in” from the nearest DC public school district. Just because the districts and surrounds have rich White families doesn’t mean those families use the public school system. When Trump signed the EO on title nine excluding physical males in women’s sports, the Oval Office was a much more normal scene.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RealityRules
1 hour ago

But ‘hate’ has been anathematized by every public and private group in society. Even Christians are taught it’s badthink to ‘hate’ evil. Everything is feminized ‘luv.’ You are right – they hate and envy us and want to eliminate us. But 95% of Whites seem incapable of recognizing and accepting that fact.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  RealityRules
17 minutes ago

They hate us. They all hate us.”

That’s just an excuse to not make any effort to grok who they are. It’s like you quoted in your earlier reply, “…let’s call it cooperation, our cooperation with Israel. That is fundamental to who we are.” They are telling you who they are. Why not take them at their word?

They hate us in the same sense they hate farmers. We are just beneath them, socially and intellectually.

ray
ray
3 hours ago

‘It is a good reminder that you can think well of someone in the whole, even though they have done you wrong, in your view, over a particular issue’

Good counsel.

‘Even the best men have terrible flaws’

They do. There are no exceptions. It’s tough to be a saint on a cursed planet. The evil’s already there, waiting for ya.

The idea is to take from the ‘best of men’ what they have to offer, and to recognize and celebrate their contributions. But don’t confuse them with God.

1660please
1660please
Reply to  ray
2 hours ago

Yes, and we are all filled with contradictions. Every one of us.

It’s one reason why revolutionaries end up destroying themselves, after they destroy anyone else.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
3 hours ago

I was a deep libertarian in those days, and while I thought the Paleocons made some good points, I also thought they were hopelessly out of touch with the evolving culture. That much was true, but I didn’t realize then that culture (and the genetics associated with it) was the true battlefield, not the material economy. I also believed that Israel and its diaspora were on our side, or could be won over to it. Such is the folly of youth. However, what happened to Sobran, Sam Francis, and even Pat Buchanan was an eye opener, and helped me start… Read more »

lavrov
lavrov
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
2 hours ago

I also believed that Israel and its diaspora were on our side, or could be won over to it.”

So did Martin Luther 🙂

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
2 hours ago

Everybody knows the Nazis were anti-Semitic and did horrible things to Jews. The dispute is whether or not there was some grand plan to exterminate Jews that ended up killing six million in concentration camps. You can believe the former without believing the latter.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
2 hours ago

Not just King George; all the old royal regimes were far less intrusive and oppressive than the modern “democratic” state.

Lakelander
Lakelander
4 hours ago

In trying to explain the treacherous behavior of people like Buckley who are so willing to betray their own flesh and blood, I can only surmise that this is what happens when a culture is transformed from one based on honor (pre-WWII) to one based on mercantilism (post-WWII). Naturally, he calculates that it would benefit him more to show fealty to his new masters, who can only thrive when every man sees himself an individual and is always for sale.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Lakelander
1 hour ago

It’s mass anonymous society. If the choice is get rich or stand for masses of strangers and be despised for it, ultimately the former choice is taken every time. Everyone one of us here might make that same choice if presented. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

LibDis
LibDis
5 hours ago

I dont even know what the occidental club means lol

My Comment
My Comment
5 hours ago

Describing the jihad against wrong thinkers as domestic terrorism is a accurate assessment.

Ron Unz has written about earlier columnists who were canceled for angering the tribe. There was one, whose name escapes me, who was the top columnist in the country before WW2. He started questioning the official narrative off WW2. Oy vey. He was canceled and memory holed.

I had never even heard of him before Unz wrote about his situation.

Does anyone know his name?

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David Wright
Member
Reply to  My Comment
5 hours ago

John Flynn?

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  David Wright
4 hours ago

He might be the one. Thanks

Steve
Steve
Reply to  David Wright
14 minutes ago

Garet Garret also comes to mind.

MysteriousOrca
MysteriousOrca
Reply to  My Comment
3 hours ago

From what I remember of Unz’ writings about FDR whipping up wartime propaganda, he explained that quite a number of prominent pundits/essayists/columnists, book authors, and academics of the time had their careers destroyed by being either skeptical or even insufficiently enthusiastic about joining an effort to destroy two of the most valuable cultures/peoples on Earth, the Germans and Japanese.

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Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  MysteriousOrca
1 hour ago

My favorite anecdote from the era is from legendary commie Dalton Trumbo, author of Johnny Got His Gun, the most famous American antiwar novel of the time. In the ’40s his book was out of print, at his own insistence—for the war effort! When worried “mothers” (he singled “mothers” out when he talked about this) would write to him wondering if they might buy a copy, hoping to give it to their sons to dissuade them from enlisting, he’d forward their letters to the FBI, and request that they be put on a list of nazi subversives. Which they probably… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
2 hours ago

Christopher Buckley (William’s son) repaid the libel that William F. imposed on his own father, and threw in his mother for good measure. His book, Losing Mum and Pup, portrays his mother as a pathological liar and William F as an uninterested, self-centered father who contemplated suicide towards the end of his life. What goes around, comes around, I suppose. Another example of cancel culture involving National Review was the termination from further writing for NR of John Derbyshire, for daring to speak frankly and not altogether favorably about blacks in an article for another publication. That termination was engineered… Read more »

mikew
mikew
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
2 hours ago

Yes, Derb was cancelled after giving a white version of “The Talk”. The original version of The Talk was supposedly given by black parents to black children about evil white people. Derb told the opposite and factually correct narrative about black white interaction, and Lowry cut him. This was right after Trayvon was rightfully dispatched by GZ and the media was playing up the hate whitey routine , a lot.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
4 hours ago

That opening letter was really more “straw man” than “macguffin” but yeah it’s so ham-fisted it’s insulting, reads like one of those gay-guy actors with the brand new “hillbilly” ballcap on YouTube is speaking it.

Embarrassed I ever thought well of Buckley. Gatekeeping back then was merciless, as a young, casual conservative never even heard of some of these guys. Contrast that with people like Tucker today whose stuff I’ve watched more frequently *after* he was “deplatformed”. (Or heck, even Sailer, whose stuff I probably never would have read if NR kept him under their banner).

John Donald
John Donald
1 hour ago

I also remember reading National Review in High School. Your description of Buckley’s writing is spot on. It became too much of a chore for me to read most of his stuff back then. As time went on I slogged through it on the occasion of a NR purchase while traveling. How interesting it is to look back at these times when Sobran, Buchanan and a lot of these guys were doing their best work. Easy to see now. Not so easy when living through it. The dissident realist in me looked to these guys for a proper perspective. I’m… Read more »

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TomA
TomA
1 hour ago

In homage to Sobran’s talent for pithy sayings that embody a general truth, may I offer the following. . .

“Endless diagnosis cures nothing”

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
2 hours ago

On the bright side, the Sobran/Buchanan cancellation was the beginning of my exit from conservatism. It made clear that Jews had a massive influence on the Right and not just the Left. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. MIGA will be the undoing of MAGA if Trump can be induced to make war on Iran

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
3 hours ago

The canceling of Sobran and Buchanan was the beginning of my exit from conservatism. I had been a faithful reader of NR and Human Events and a supporter of the standard GOP platform. When the “conservatives” turned on Sobran and Buchanan, I was amazed that these two stalwarts had become pariahs because they were insufficiently devoted to Israel. I was well aware of the Jewish taste for Communism/Socialism and their control of the Democratic Party but I was not aware of their massive influence on the GOP and conservatism. You don’t have to do much digging to find the Jewish… Read more »

MysteriousOrca
MysteriousOrca
3 hours ago

“Even today, public officials feel they must publicly swear loyalty to Israel for fear of being cancelled.” My guess is that it’s more blackmail than any sort of organic cancellation. Besides the Epstein’s goy children rape ring taking place on an island filled with hidden cameras, a majority of VPN companies are owned by Israelis with ties to Israeli intelligence, as are many internet relay, TCP/IP, etc companies – and, I just read, the Carbyne 911 emergency response system that snarfs up GPS data, live video feeds, and audio from callers’ smartphones. It seems that spying for political blackmail may be Israel’s biggest… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  MysteriousOrca
1 hour ago

The Epstein affair is just one part of it that we know about. So how many other parts of it are there, that we don’t know about

Ketchup-stained Griller
Ketchup-stained Griller
45 minutes ago

I thought Robert Welch was his first victim.

Ploppy
Ploppy
1 hour ago

So funny thing last week I was at my dad’s forced to watch the electric Jew with him, and there was some kind of interview going with some guy named Perlman (not Ron Perlman but similarly shaped head) who had written some kind of book about Buckley. According to him when he was 19 he just happened to write a letter to Buckley who took him on as a protege, which I assume is the interview dancing around this guy being Buckley’s rent boy.

Yman
Yman
1 hour ago

Destruction of white men will kill the feminism
Han-Chinese simply cut off her arms and legs, call it a pig because they did it before

Remain white women get terrified bow their knee and become prostitutes for free
people call white women as sex slaves, and colored people throwing the charade and be the savage

Historians write feminism was a scam and lie to destroy the white man at the beginning

Baltbuc
Baltbuc
1 hour ago

I lived in Ft Smith Arkansas from 92-96 (business relo). It’s just a little town, that’s seen better days. People were interested in hunting, NASCAR and football. I never found anyone political, altho they all hated Bubba. I think Buckley opened a map and found Ft Smith for his fake letter. If he had to choose Arkansas, Bentonville would have been better.

Carrie
Carrie
1 hour ago

Honest question:

where is your Weds podcast wirh RamZPaul?

is there a unique link to it?some of the trouble I have with folks on our side, is that they are sometimes on obscure websites (not saying you and Paul are).
bur it’s so hard to find them, and then if I do, it involves about 4 click-through, to get to the page where I can press Play… but I can’t ever relocate it again!

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
2 hours ago

Oh for Christ’s sake, Z-man, did you have to stir up the anti-semites? They already have a splinter in their brains so big that they think that Hamas and Hezbollah are worthy of sympathy. I haven’t ready the comment thread yet, but I can imagine what its like.

Yep, there it is: First comment in. Like waving red meat in front of a pack of hyenas.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Zulu Juliet
David Wright
Member
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
10 minutes ago

Hey everybody, over here. I found another jew!

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
6 minutes ago

Funny stuff. I’m serious. I can go weeks without hearing a thing about Israel so long as I stay away from the comment section and selected ‘Tubers. I have no idea how it’s possible to hear Jan say, “Israel, Israel, Israel!” 24/7 unless one lives in an echo chamber. The closest thing to it I can imagine is picking at a scab.

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