Happy Campers

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One of the realities of the late managerial age is that the sorts of numbers managers love and therefore produce in volume, are increasingly unreliable and often manufactured to fit an agenda. Good data is usually too late to be actionable or is simply the accurate version of the previously reported fake data. Economic data is the most obvious example of this trend. It used to be central to the news cycle but has now become so corrupt the media will ignore it.

In the Biden years, much like the Obama years, it became popular with the reporting agencies to produce fake economic numbers and then come back at a later date to “revise” the previous data so they could pretend they were being accurate. It was always a cycle where new data contained information about how the previous data was revised in a way negative to the administration, but often made the new data look like the administration was doing a great job.

Peak managerial mendacity was Covid. The CDC stopped reporting deaths as a real-time number so they could report fictionalized accounts of bodies in the streets, always somewhere not where you live, which explained why you did not see the bodies in the streets, but they were somewhere! Old metrics that relied on hard data, like dead people showing up in morgues, were massaged to the point where you could no longer get the number of actual dead people.

We are getting a version of this now that Trump is back. His tariff plan has kicked off a new genre of managerial horror stories. These come in the form of economic reports that, like the bodies in the streets phenomenon, always focus on a part of the country where you do not live. Somewhere there are empty Walmart shelves due to the trade war with China. There are people you do not know who are shocked by the rise in prices, even though your prices have declined.

The cycle for management is always the same. First, they produce reliable numbers from trusted sources to measure their performance. Then they create models from those numbers to justify their continued employment. This is when they begin to reimagine how the old data is collected and before long, we have theories about how best to manage information, which always underscores the need for management to keep a tight control on the narratives.

Bankruptcy usually follows that last phase, or at least an economic crisis great enough to warrant restructuring. That is because reality is indifferent to the model makers and will eventually break every model. We are living through a version of this process in the twilight of managerialism. Since the Obama, years the choice has been between your lying eyes and the model of reality presented by management. Enough people picked the former and we are now undergoing a change in management.

For example, during the Biden years we were told that the economy was going great and those grumbling about egg prices were ingrates. Now that Trump is in power, the media say we are in a depression. Go on the roads right now and you will be confronted with miles of RV’s and campers. This week, which leads to Memorial Day weekend, the nation’s highways will be full of the things. So much so that massive traffic jams will be a feature of the weekend.

Why does this matter? RV’s and campers have long been a useful metric for the economy and the public perception of the economy. The more people hitting the roads for campgrounds and parks, the better the economy. In 2023, the industry went into a deep recession to the point where many companies shut down production. Then it started to slowly bounce back in 2024. Now it is undergoing a boom with the highways now flooded with happy campers.

This used to be a metric discussed in public, but like so many of these things, it fell out of favor in the Obama years. Management and its marketing department, what we call the media, decided that the customers really did not know best, so they scrapped those numbers in favor of metrics that flattered management. The reason they are in the jam that they currently find themselves is they started to believe their models of reality instead of facing reality. Now there is a hostile takeover underway.

A cruder and more hilarious version of this process is the recent reporting of Joe Biden’s health and fitness. The data in this case was our eyes. Everyone not blinded by their own models of reality saw a frail, doddering old man. Management’s model, however, showed that he was a model of fitness and virility. Now that model is being revised to show he was actually suffering from dementia and has aggressive cancer. The new model is now converging with reality.

The Biden story is a version of the basis trade, which pits models of a point in the future and the models are continuously updated until the point is reached. It is a way for the model makers to think they can control the future, so it makes sense that the people running America Inc. would think in these terms. They just forgot about the part that says in the end, reality always wins. That is what you see on the road. America is happy with the state of things, so they are going camping.


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I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

Personally I feel heads should roll because of the hysterical rules imposed on us during Covid. Remember one-way aisles in grocery stores? Remember people getting arrested on hiking trails and deserted beaches? Canadian truckers? People thrown out of the military? The Australian government really went apeshit over this! I never did “take the jab” and caught Covid at the age of 72. It was no picnic, but I was my old self again in a week. The wave of shutdowns and crackdowns was outrageous, and I can’t understand Joe Sixpack’s “forgive and forget” attitude these days. Heads should roll!

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

There is a lot of pent-up rage and anger over the Covid protocols. The surprising part is how that was delayed and only has come to the fore recently. The Australian business was and is horrifying. Australia polices language to an extent basically found nowhere else in the West, and even now criticizing online what happened during Covid can get you a police visit. The Canadian truckers are underappreciated heroes, in my opinion, and almost all were white in an industry that is becoming dominated by Subcons. Long-term, Covid is on par with mass migration in separating Western peoples from… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
2 hours ago

Sadly, I think you are wrong and that there is no pent up rage, or if there is rage, that anyone will act on that rage.

I never had much faith in the public, but until Covid, there was always some nagging doubt. Covid removed that doubt. There is nothing the public will not put up with.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 hours ago

True. Unfortunately, the attitude of most normies is “Well, yeah, it did get a bit OTT, but at the end of the day we all stood strong together and came through this horrible situation.”

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 hours ago

Anecdotal, of course, but I’m seeing lots of pent-up rage. Acting on it, of course, is a different matter. But to your point about the Covid acquiescence, that for me also burned the last bit of faith in the public.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 hour ago

Killed my faith in my fellow man.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 hours ago

This is all a function of leadership. There is plenty of rage. The issue is what effort would be involved in expressing that rage in meating out justice. I am guessing that none of us are going to do what it would take to express it. We would have to forfeit all we treasure and undertake a herculean effort likely doomed to fail or fall far far far short of justice. The reason it would fail is that there would be no representatives with real power willing to back this effort. We all know this, so we do the right… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  RealityRules
1 hour ago

In China there are supposedly bollards popping up everywhere. The alleged reason for this is what they call “revenge against society attacks” where cars will ram into crowds of people and even children or, less frequently, knife attacks. I’m told, though I have no way of validating it that these attacks happen on a near daily basis. There was a highly visible attack like this late last year with a large number of victims. Assuming all of this is true, I would think that only people filled with not only rage, but an inability to channel that rage into something… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
24 minutes ago

When a couple 200 lb hockey players go at each other, the refs wait until they tire each other out (and let the crowd enjoy the spectacle a bit) before intervening.

Depending on where you lived, consequences for acting on rage could land you in big heap trouble. The rage can be expressed when it is to your advantage (or at least to diminished detriment). Let the DS battle itself until it tires out. Putin and Xi seem to understand this. Learn from Putin and Xi.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Jack Dodson
2 hours ago

I was staggered by what happened to Australia. For me, perhaps naively, this was the land of rugged independence and stuff Big Brother. Whatever happened to Crocodile Dundee and the Anzacs?

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Robbo
2 hours ago

I lived there a spell and continue to have many connections to Australia. It didn’t surprise me at all. One of the more surreal things I ever watched was a Sydney newscast about a prominent television presenter being tried for pointing out many of the Abo welfare recipients were in fact mostly white (which is true). The surreal part was how the anchors treated the prosecution of one of their own so matter-of-factly. The now-cliche rejoinder there when someone wonders why a land settled by prisoners is so complacent is that it also was settled by the guards and wardens.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 hour ago

We recognize the phenomenon among blacks but don’t see it in ourselves: A large part of the prison population is people who really like being in prison.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Robbo
24 minutes ago

“Crocodile Dundee,” was an amazing piece of myth making by Paul Hogan.

The character was actually based on his grandparents from late 19th century Australia.

The reality is that Australia has one of the most urbanized populations on the planet. Also, their British roots run far deeper than they will ever admit.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

So you want to “punish” the miscreants. Hell, I’d just be happy if “Joe Sixpack” remembered the miscreants and their deeds such that it would affect his voting behavior longer than one election cycle. It’s not so much “forgive and forget”. It’s the “forget” part that is killing us.

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
3 hours ago

Joe lives well, drinks craft beer, and is going camping in his Airstream next weekend. Not exactly warrior material.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Compsci
3 hours ago

~~~

I changed my mind about this one.

Last edited 2 hours ago by TempoNick
Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

During the Covid panic I had some long arguments with relatives over me and my families’ refusal to take the experimental mRNA shot, resulting in us getting shut out of Thanksgiving and Christmas. After many of the “vaxxed” relatives caught Covid multiple times, and we were unaffected, the topic was dropped, and they now seem embarrassed. It’s as if the entire thing never happened.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 hours ago

The worse part is that those who were so wrong, example my doctor, now completely ignore such, as in unwilling to admit error and move on. And they chastise you if you bring up the subject. This is as you’ve noted, but I bring this up to add that those who got the “jab” now complain (unknowingly) of potential adverse reactions to the jab. For example, I know of a nurse who got brain cancer shortly thereafter and passed. Grandchildren now having problems conceiving. Again, all known adverse reactions with published studies confirming these findings. I’ve done a lot of… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 hours ago

Let’s face it–there are an awful lot of people who, quite literally, would rather die than admit they were wrong.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 hours ago

And the joke is that most of those people were highly intelligent and even consider themselves as “free thinkers”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

There’s nothing so herd-like as the avant-garde…

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 hour ago

paradox, enigma, and irony in a short few words. If I had a hot on I’d tip it.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

Peak Gullibility, which is a specie of stupidity, requires a post-graduate degree. Leon Trotsky lamented that state propaganda was least effective on the uneducated working class. He was right.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 hours ago

there are an awful lot of people who, quite literally, would rather die than admit they were wrong.”

And a whole lot more who would rather YOU die than having to admit they were wrong.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Compsci
3 hours ago

“I’ve done a lot of stupid stuff concerning my health in the past and now pay the price, but I can’t imagine how I’d profit from ignoring such history or failing to tell others to take heed of my (bad) example.” Because their worldview is that of a victim. It’s almost like a mental disorder. I’ve seen one armed waitresses do an excellent job before, and i’ve seen people who lost an arm due to injecting themselves with drugs and it got infected, so off came the arm. The second group wants to milk government benefits because they’re a victim.… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Mr. House
2 hours ago

I know a fat loser at a bar near me. Loudly proclaims he’s a communist and asks if you read marxs and argues with everyone. You should have seen the “communist” cry when the stock market when down in april. They don’t know what they do or what they speak about. Useful idiots.

ray
ray
Reply to  Mr. House
1 hour ago

Everybody — and I do mean everybody — now greatly benefits from the Victim Sweepstakes. . . except white men and boys, of course.

Team Victim would burn the country down rather than give up the free goodies and the jolt of sweet righteousness that comes from Shared Victim Status with others.

A cunning and satanic strategy. Guaranteed to work, and it did.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 hours ago

Experienced almost the exact same thing with one exception–my wife and I are still estranged from the vast majority of my maternal kinfolk. It is entirely possible we will never seen one another again.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 hours ago

Call it a win. You deserve to have real American kin.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Steve
1 hour ago

Yeah, I guess it’s good riddance to bad atmosphere. But I say that rather wistfully. Grew up with those people and have many fond memories. Now it’s only memories.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 hours ago

Ain’t it? The whole thing has disappeared down the rabbit hole. I would have thought that with the 5th anniversary of the start of the scam, there would be loads of events like those celebrating VE Day. Crickets! And now Big Pharma is pushing ahead with its latest range of mRNA products – cures for cancer. For them, Covid was just one big lab experiment to test out their top product.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

Yes. That is why Bourla runs free. Thiel and Andreesen love mRNA vaccines. Per my previous post about power this is the ultimate reality. Does power stand to gain from fighting for bodily autonomy or from getting rid of it? Does it stand to gain from autonomous humans driving themselves around, or like Andreesen, from outlawing that and letting machines they profit from drive you around?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

You would think that the covid cultists would want to celebrate and commemorate their victory over the plague, wouldn’t you

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 hour ago

At bare minimum we should be getting a national holiday, VC Day. And perhaps Anthony Fauci’s radiant mug on a greenback, replacing that awful slaveowner Thomas Jefferson.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 hour ago

Don’t discount it. Fauci’s mug was more popular on votive candles than the image of The Blessed Virgin.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
20 minutes ago

Recently in my burg a Catholic church was completed. Its dedication was to Saint Fauci the Microbe Slayer and Preserver of the Holy Sheep.

Ed
Ed
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 hour ago

Me declining the shot was a huge source of contention within my family. Praise God they haven’t been affected, but the topic never comes up because they’re sheepish about admitting I am right.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

I loved it when some rat faced jewish reporter later came out and penned a srawl about “It’s Time For A Covid Amnesty” where all us vaccine deniers were supposed to forgive and forget the calls for us to be sent to the camps and denied basic rights and freedoms.

“We were only going by the information we had available.” they whined. When the balloon goes up, the rule of law collapses and pitched race/civil/ideological war breaks out – keep your accountability list handy. I am going to personally go on a killing spree…!

😉

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Filthie
3 hours ago

“…all us vaccine deniers were supposed to forgive and forget…” I’ve always found the above to be a two-way street—the offender must perform a number of items before the offended can be asked to “forgive and forget”. Most often, this is never done. I’ve found the following as good guidelines for the process. As I am tired of repeating from memory, so ChatGPT summary here: 1.Acknowledge the Wrong The offender must recognize and admit the specific wrongdoing. This should not be general or vague but should clearly state what was done wrong. 2. Express Genuine Remorse One must feel sincere… Read more »

Charming Billy
Charming Billy
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

ARR–acknowledgement, remorse, reparation.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

Its the same playbook with all of their “causes”. Take the LGBTQ crap, respect is a two way street so watch while we desecrate all you hold sacred and then call you names when you ask them to stop. If they respected you, they wouldn’t make their degeneracy their entire political platform. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, psychology was not created to help people, it was created to better understand how to control people.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Mr. House
2 hours ago

At least with the Trump victory all that Woke crap is suddenly looking very tired.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Robbo
2 hours ago

The arguments they make are so illogical tired was always where you were going to end up. They’ve quieted down, but i don’t think its gone away. Heck i didn’t even know it existed as a front in the first place because they unveiled all the grievances piece mail. Started with Feminism on steroids in the early 2010’s and other grievances groups jump on the for the ride along the way.

ray
ray
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

It still rules every institution in your nation. It ain’t that tired.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

Right. God doesn’t forgive without repentance. So that’s obviously the perfectly moral position.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  I.M. Brute
4 hours ago

I still remember walking into a coffee shop during COVID, with my mask on like a good little lemming. As soon as I walked in, the barista yelled at me, angrily, to get out and wait outside because they only allowed 2 people to wait in line inside and I was the 3rd. I had no idea I was the third. It was a cold day and I was not going to wait outside in the cold in this way. I just left and never went back. It wasn’t just the stupid rules, it was the way COVID encouraged people… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mycale
3 hours ago

Reminds one of the Twilight Zone episode, “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street.” In it, extraterrestrial beings cause strange electrical phenomena–power outages, dead batteries, lights turning on and off randomly, etc.–to generate fear and paranoia among Earthlings. The Earthlings abide, accusing and scapegoating one another, and the episode ends with deranged mayhem and gunfire. Once the masses destroyed one another, conquest of earth would be easy as pie.

The West’s power structure was the space invaders, the Covid lemmings were the Earthlings.

Arbeiter
Arbeiter
Reply to  Mycale
2 hours ago

Fear (as in fear of losing your job if you don’t toe the line) will make even the mildest of us wild. “I was just following orders”

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Arbeiter
35 minutes ago

Not me – I refused, and penned1000 word essay on my position that was passed around to all the C-suite folks (Fortune 500). They folded – as I strongly expected they would. There WAS risk, but my bet was hinged on “They can pay me to work, or they can pay me to “not-work,” but they know that (legally…) they’re gonna have to pay…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mycale
2 hours ago

I had one such experience at an *outdoor* nursery. A little teen-age shit told me I need a mask to walk outside among the plants. He began to lecture me about policy and County health rules and the like. I responded, “Are you asking me to leave?”, rather than argue with him over his foolishness. He said, “No”., and I walked on. I actually bought a plant inside the main building and lo and behold a second teen something was cashiering *without* a mask. He just laughed when he saw me. However, I never forgot, do not forgive, and never… Read more »

Ed
Ed
Reply to  Mycale
1 hour ago

You should let the owners of the coffee shop know that and grovel for your business.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Ed
1 hour ago

No businessman anywhere values profit over mistreating people.

Covid should have killed every remnant of libertarianism in the Western mind.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  I.M. Brute
3 hours ago

Remember one-way aisles in grocery stores?

Copenhagen has a string of lakes running 100 yards from the center, remnants of the old city moat, with broad pedestrian/bicycle lanes around them, each with a circumference of about half a mile. Very popular with joggers and dog-walkers and other health freaks. During Covid, those paths were made one-way traffic only.

We shall show them no mercy when the time comes.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Felix_Krull
Steve
Steve
Reply to  I.M. Brute
2 hours ago

The main story of COVIDiocy was not the little Napoleons, nor the urgency with which those who chose “wealth” or the “tranquility of servitude” would like their laziness or cowardice forgotten. It is rather the vast numbers who so chose. We need not their counsel, nor their arms. Ideally they would simply be no longer of member of the body politic, as their track record should disqualify them from having opinions worth consideration.

Forgiven and forgotten, both them and their progeny.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Steve
2 hours ago

The Revenge of the Karens. Where’s George Lucas when you need him?

Scipio
Scipio
Reply to  I.M. Brute
24 minutes ago

Since its foundation Australia has always been governed by Rum Corps goon squads, corrupt prison warders and flogging parsons.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  I.M. Brute
10 minutes ago

COVID did have at least one huge silver lining – it proved that many, if not most office jobs can be performed remotely just as adequately. Saves a ton of overhead, commuting costs and aggravation, and gives more flexibility. Commercial real estate probably not happy.

Carl B.
Carl B.
5 hours ago

I have also noticed that the interstates are jammed with 18 wheelers which means product is being warehoused and sold. As for Biden, there never was a “President Biden”. He was simply the brainless figurehead of a Deep State coup. And except for the OWLs, the AWFLs, and the rest of the s***-for-brains Blue Hairs everyone knows it.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Carl B.
4 hours ago

“everyone knows it” Hard to imagine “everyone” unless everyone means people in this commentary. We’ve just lived through an overthrow of the democratic/governmental process that is comparable in effect to any in recorded history—and yet we still don’t have a parade of culprits being arrested nor an accounting of who and how, nor for that matter a prioritized investigation of the matter. There can be no higher purpose of a new, and legitimate government than to get to the bottom of such corruption to correct the process for future generations. Yet, “crickets”. How do we chastise the general public in… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

I’d prefer wet work to show trials and frogmarches. An unmarked grave is vastly better than some court record which will be twisted to their exoneration and veneration some day.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
4 hours ago

I’m in Southern California. During COVID we had many “bodies in the streets.” They were the thousands of bums. Still have them.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Boniface
4 hours ago

The Living Dead
Shuffling aimlessly in tattered rags in a cruel mockery of when they were still alive

Last edited 4 hours ago by Alzaebo
Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jack Boniface
3 hours ago

another tell that it wasn’t as deadly as we were being told

RDittmar
Member
5 hours ago

One of the eerier things I remember from the COVID days was someone pointing out how if you entered a totally random number into a search engine, then the first result back was always a link to some article about COVID. I tried it a bunch myself at the time. You’d enter some random number – 3,473 say – and an article would immediately pop up about “3,473 total COVID cases this month somewhere” or “3,473 deaths from COVID in this region since the epidemic started” or some such. Statistically speaking, I realize that there aren’t that many small numbers… Read more »

TomC
TomC
5 hours ago

Which would you rather? Stay in your own mobile condo, or stay in a Patel Hotel with Hispanics.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomC
4 hours ago

Campers never made economic sense to me, but that was back in the day where you could stay someplace decent for $60 a night. A ‘camper’ elsewhere pointed out that when trying to stay anywhere remotely in demand (parks) the prices start at $200 and shoot up from there, making the math behind a mobile condo (almost) workable.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  TomC
4 hours ago

…Or put your life in the hands of ATC diversity hires

Thomas Mcleod
Thomas Mcleod
4 hours ago

You see this with poorly structured sales bonuses for salesmen. A very wealthy friend once bought a company that had a loss leader product in its portfolio, BUT that product had major sales bonus incentives. “Sales are up!”, but we lost money. He, of course, to the salesmen’s dismay, restructured the entire sales incentive structure to emphasize the company’s high profit products. Loud part: “Job numbers are up!” Quiet part: “It’s all part-time, government, and foreigners.”

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Thomas Mcleod
3 hours ago

Just look at the auto industry: Rebates and sales incentives are highest on what’s sitting on the lot the longest. The latest buzz is low, low, almost giveaway lease deals on EVs for any car company NOT named Tesla just to get the God d—ed things off of our lots!

Of course, as others point out, if the Government has to give a $7,500 tax credit to EV buyers to get them to lease an EV, that says volumes about the desirability of the vehicle in question

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
4 hours ago

No enemy foreign or domestic did more to damage Americans than “Biden,” even putting aside he was a mere puppet and figurehead. He richly deserves to die a painful, prolonged death. That may happen. If Dr. Jill starts saying unhelpful things, she, too, may dine at The Jack Ruby Cafe. As for the managerial state’s marketing department (that’s great…is it original?), there is a related and to my mind unprecedented development. The media is bleeding money and never again will be trusted, and seems to have turned on the managerial state regarding the lies it told about Biden. The marketing… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Dodson
2 hours ago

If Dr. Jill starts saying unhelpful things, she, too, may dine at The Jack Ruby Cafe.”

Ooh, very good. That particular “coincidence” had not yet occurred to me.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Steve
2 hours ago

The Jack Rubenstein Cafe, where there are no ‘cohencidences’.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
5 hours ago

While we’re on this subject, no less an authority than Ben S. Bernanke gave a speech last week calling for more transparency in the Federal Reserve’s official economic forecasting process. As Zman might say, it would take a heart of stone not to laugh at this. These guys are disappearing up their own sphincters. I think that’s the last phase of Managerialism.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Captain Willard
4 hours ago

Think of the Fed “forecasting” as one does the Union of Concerned Scientists and their “Doomsday Clock” for a better understanding of their “forecasting”. Strictly a polling of a select group of individuals regarding their fears and uncertainty. Perhaps little better than the group you have beers with every Saturday at the local neighborhood bar.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Compsci
Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Compsci
1 hour ago

Throwing chicken bones also plays a role.

Greg Nikolic
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 hours ago

The stats that determine the reports get massaged partly because there is tremendous pressure to be timely. It’s like voting at the ballot box: you want those numbers to come in on time. The true sign of corruption comes when the stats cease to be adjusted to an earlier state…

— Greg (my blog: http://www.dark.sport.blog)

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Greg Nikolic
3 hours ago

Is your inner monologue a constant analogy?

“6:30 am. Go downstairs to make breakfast. Like umpteenth graphs of the American hegemon, I’m trending downward.

Make some bacon and eggs. Like the proverbial chicken, our leaders’ decisions have come home to roost. But will we have to break some eggs to make an omelet?”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Greg Nikolic
2 hours ago

The measure of corruption comes when the stat’s are corrected in one direction—and only one direction—month after month. A correction is assumed to be because of “error”. Error is a random event. Error is therefore an event that cancels itself out in the long run. Consider the proverbial “coin toss” example from Stat 101. Error that repeats itself is “systematic”. Systematic is assumed to have a specific cause and that cause is what we term “corruption”. (PS: I answer “Greg-AI” only because it is really a response to the group. Greg-AI is meaningless to respond to, but yet there are… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 hour ago

That’s great. While Powell’s alleged determination to hold down inflation is laudatory (if that is in fact his intent), he has made noises about immigration (he wants more) and tariffs (he wants fewer). The Fed in theory is not supposed to be a political actor. Bernanke is covering his ass as well as disappearing into it.

Mycale
Mycale
5 hours ago

The esteem to which the media still treats polling is hilarious at this point. We’ve had a good 20 years of the polls being proven to be basically totally fake yet they still treat them like ancient diviners putting animal bones over a fire. To wit, the media has been reporting on Trump’s collapsing poll numbers for months at the same time they acknowledge that those same polls show that all of Trump’s policies are popular. Obviously, this makes no sense. It’s impossible to disapprove of Trump’s job as President while at the same time liking everything Trump is doing.… Read more »

Reziac
Reziac
Reply to  Mycale
4 hours ago

Polls are not meant to take the public pulse. Polls are meant to shape public opinion. After all everyone wants to be on the winning side, so the idea is to sway those who don’t yet have a fixed opinion.

This is why polls usually show the results desired by whoever commissioned and paid for the poll.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mycale
4 hours ago

It makes no sense.

Yes it does. If one knows a bit about polling—assuming the numbers are simply not made up from whole cloth—it’s easy to fudge the numbers. Very easy. You have various questions that you can ask to obtain negative or favorable responses. Then you have sampling issues wrt to whom you ask. It goes on and on.

Polls are like models, they tell you what you want to hear. Folks need to ignore them—especially given who is usually the source of such polling, MSM.

Thomas Mcleod
Thomas Mcleod
Reply to  Mycale
3 hours ago

Legitimate polling costs a lot of money. If you’re getting polling data for free it’s a “push poll” designed to shape public opinion instead of sample public opinion. Every campaign does legitimate polling, but they sure as hell don’t share it with anyone.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
4 hours ago

The question is whether this is an emergent conspiracy, one directed from above, or more likely, some combination of the two. “But Trump!” existed as a rationalization for fudging the numbers long before Trump. Everybody on the “left” gets that concept and acts accordingly. It’s a manifestation of corruption so large that corruption begins to fail as a way to define it. It’s just the way things are now. All facts must be twisted or denied to better usher in the beautiful baizuo future. If that isn’t done, the deplorables might win! I recollect that the “right” also was very… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
4 hours ago

Everything must be shut down to avoid mass death on the scale beyond the Black Death. People telling us that held semi-private orgies at underground speak-easy’s all around the major international metroplexesThey tried to extend the plandemic to force everyone to vaccinate. At the same time we were threatened with the winter of death and the vaccinated would die because other people weren’t vaccinated, the border was opened and flights and boats were filled with tens of millions of unvaccinated, filthy aliens who were shipped into and around the countryThe magic dust magically stopped being magical at 10 feetStanding on… Read more »

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LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  RealityRules
1 hour ago

Why did they try to shut everything down? The elites depend on their workers to produce.

Massive depopulation?

I think it’s just as likely that the elites are womanly and hysterical and panicked over exaggerations from their experts.

In other words, the elite panic was sincere and not a psy-op.

ray
ray
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 hour ago

It was both.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  LineInTheSand
42 minutes ago

despair. Think they were betting on more people falling into hard drug usage or offing themselves. Then they’d count them as died with covid. Feedback loop.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  RealityRules
43 minutes ago

It was introduced as the consumer economy was introduced because if people perceived that things were good they would be confident and spend money which in turn would make them wealthy. Psy-Ops and propaganda are, “managing perception.” Of course, bribery is merely, “campaign contributions.””

You just described the purpose of the stock market and why it can only go up.

ray
ray
4 hours ago

‘America is happy with the state of things, so they are going camping’ The U.S. is more than just the upper-class citizenry who still can afford what is now a luxury: camping. I used to do a LOT of ‘camping’ during my homeless stints. :O) But I think your RV analysis correct about that class and above, who manage New Amerika. Folk forget but when the Biden Steal went down, the U.S. was in decent shape, relatively. Why? Because unlike the Righties, the Demoncrapic Left seeks PROACTIVELY to destroy the nation, and remake it in their own image, due to… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
4 hours ago

I find the polling results and numbers fascinating because like the narratives they tell us what the rulers/blob want us to think. The COVID number were complete fiction and all they showed was what the science believers were required to parrot and told you what they were planning on doing next. When polling showed Kamala slightly ahead I knew Trump would win in a landslide. The most interesting numbers are when they tell a story that the rulers and their lackeys don’t want you to believe such as most people supporting what Trump is doing. For example, deporting illegals. If… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
1 hour ago

given covid is part of this post, dilbert creator scott adams announced this morning he has turbo prostate cancer (same as biden) and only has 6 months to live. he is a well known vaxx recipient.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 hour ago

I’m dubious Biden’s is a turbo cancer. Would have expected him to get the saline. The medical folks lied through their teeth about his cognitive state, so it’s hardly a stretch that they lied about cancer too. But then the Satan Pope’s decline began immediately after his first jab, and I would have expected him to get the saline too.

TempoNick
TempoNick
5 hours ago

I’ve always wondered about the RV business myself. I see these RV and camper places everywhere. I just don’t understand who buys these things and why you would buy them. It’s not like they’re cheap and how much use do people get out of these things to justify the cost? I always ask myself the same thing about motorcycles. I don’t see very many on the road. Do you just buy one of these things and park it in the garage like my brother did? Just take it out occasionally to have fun? I don’t get it. Or is this… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  thezman
5 hours ago

Forgot about Clarence. The other half’s family used to be in the RV business but they sold out after the old man died. It wasn’t nearly as big or as profitable as it is these days.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

Exactly. I have an elderly relative who is part of the subculture. They are mobile Dead Heads. A surprising number do what amounts to volunteer work to help maintain the for-profit RV parks among other odd aspects.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

Sounds dreadful. But I am an introvert and if I’m honest with myself I overall find all travel to be a huge waste of time, money, and energy. It is the rare vacation I have enjoyed.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

There also happens to be a sizeable subculture of long-term “car camping.”
Increasingly becoming a permanent lifestyle ‘choice’.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 hours ago

I saw a windowless Sprinter van with South Dakota plates here yesterday. I’m in Ohio. I wondered if he was one of these transients. It is very easy to establish residency in South Dakota and a very popular thing to do for the van life types.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

And plates and insurance are dirt cheap.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

Ten-year-rules have been implemented by relatively few parks. Their purpose may be as varied as (a) keeping the riff-raff away from your $200,000+ Class A neighborhood, (b) preventing oil leaks from mucking up their nice clean pad sites, or (c) avoiding the inconvenience of having to remove immobilized vehicles. As for utility, you would be correct in assuming that most RVs spend the vast majority of their lifetimes parked in owners’ yards—which is why they are a good indicator of discretionary spending power. Nevertheless, ten-year-rules are more likely to be applied to a different sort of RVer, known as a… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

My wife and I RV, with a senior discount I can sit on the shores of a lake away from the city and its joys of diversity and watch the sunset drinking a beverage and enjoying a smoke.
All for $9 to $12 a night in my region of the country at Corp of Engineer campsites, electricity and water included.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 hours ago

Whites generally RV with few exceptions, you do not see a lot of diversity camping. RVing requires planning and some work.Whites like it others do not.Clarence Thomas is an exception to the rule and its ironic a black guy who likes to camp is the chief defender of white interests in the Supreme Court.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 hours ago

Whites anything outdoors

Still waiting on the dedicated black base jumpers

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
2 hours ago

I’m not one for diversity, but I’d be happy and proud to chew the fat with Clarence over a campfire.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 hours ago

Yup. Agreed. And it is good for the soul if you do it right. I bought a little A frame camper to park at my rod and gun club. Every summer I walk to the range from my campsite and just shoot and BS the day away. It gets me out of the house, gives the wife a break and some time to herself, and a lot of the times she comes with me. Some people paint, some make music – everyone has a thing and for me summer camping is my thing. If I didn’t have a trailer I’d… Read more »

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
2 hours ago

I’m a European, Lordon. In the US, do you have to stay on an approved site or can you go “wild”?

I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
Reply to  Robbo
1 hour ago

Can’t speak for other places, but my favorite yearly bowhunting destination is the Apalachicola National Forest in North Florida. During fall archery and spring turkey seasons, you’re allowed to camp anywhere you please, not just in one of the designated campgrounds. I love this because I really don’t want to listen to a neighbor’s RV generator all night, and I prefer to camp within walking distance of where I’m going to hunt.

ray
ray
Reply to  Robbo
58 minutes ago

The Feds used to have what’s called Dispersed Sites, meaning if you go back far enough into the mountains, it’s free. Sometimes these are places that RVs can’t get to.

You’re only supposed to stay two weeks at Dispersed Sites but nobody ever tried to push me outta a campsite. You get far enough back, there are few or no rangers. I stayed entire summers in the same site more than once.

ray
ray
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

Riding motorcycles is a blast. I had to give mine up at 68 because I couldn’t keep it from falling over at stop signs.

BenMac
BenMac
Reply to  ray
22 minutes ago

In my early 70s ..still have juice to do whatever I want; mostly..ride my machines/its grooved into your core; early adolescence…or no..have 4 Harleys(2000 Softball Standard/2003 Springer/2007 Road King/2018 Road glide..purchase outright new..have owned more/raised on S.C coast south of Myrtle beach(Garden city;Murrels inlet)…instincts on bikes early on honed to detect vacationing Yankees…retired folks; tourist…full on motorcycle danger..I still ride all 4 scoots; each has a,feel & groove…going to saddle up now..live it up…live till ya die

/2007

mmack
mmack
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

I always ask myself the same thing about motorcycles. I don’t see very many on the road. Do you just buy one of these things and park it in the garage like my brother did? Just take it out occasionally to have fun? I don’t get it. The first question I have to ask is where do you live TN? I’ve lived in the Midwest all of my life and IF we are lucky we’ll get oh, 6, maybe 7 months of the year where a motorcyclist can use his (or in the VERY rare occasions, her) bike without freezing… Read more »

Mormons, Masons and Muslims
Mormons, Masons and Muslims
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

It’s the same thing with horses-I always see them in someone’s back yard or field, but never any of them actually being ridden. It’s a status symbol. Unfortunately, keeping a horse isolated in a boarding facility without any interactions will cause the poor horsey to go mental and develop “stimming” habits like continuously banging their head against the stable wall, or obsessively walking in circles.

I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
Reply to  Mormons, Masons and Muslims
1 hour ago

But Daddy’s Little Princess simply MUST have a horse! C’mon Daddy! Pleeeeeze!

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Mormons, Masons and Muslims
59 minutes ago

Horse owners around me have them out all the time (Amish). 😉
Some englishers down the road I guess rode their horses down to the dollar store which I’m surprised I don’t see more often since they have a hitching post for the Amish shoppers.*
*(I should note that I get calls from Amish for a lift down the road because for horse power it’s either too close to be worth the trouble of hooking up the horse, or too it’s far away for the horse to get to).

GunnerQ
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

With real houses being priced out of reach for most people, RVs are filling the gap. “The working homeless” is a real thing in California. They don’t usually park along the street anymore; that got cracked down on. Instead, homeowners make off-books money allowing tenant RVs to park & hook up in the side yard.

When that’s how you live during the week, it’s the easiest thing to pull up stakes for a weekend vacation.

LGC
LGC
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

it’s because you can get a 15 to 20 year loan for something with a kitchen and a bathroom (ever wonder why so many small 20 foot boats have a tiny kitchen and a little portable bathroom?) . That makes the monthly payments “affordable” and people never think about how much they cost to run/move/maintain/etc I think either they are really into the lifestyle, or they are toys that sit a lot. Campgrounds aren’t free either, costs money to stay. Motorcycle sales are WAY down from even 20 years ago. Everyone too busy on their phone and not paying attention.… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  LGC
1 hour ago

It’s not only that, but too many cars on the road, too much congestion. I don’t want to become a victim of somebody else’s SUV and poor driving.

din c. nuffin
din c. nuffin
Reply to  TempoNick
1 hour ago

“Who buys these things?” I asked my good friend who owns an RV sales lot. “Guys who want to sleep in their own bed, and crap in their own commode.”

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  TempoNick
1 hour ago

When one really thinks through the RV/Camper thing, it makes no sense. For the cost of the thing, one can spend many nights in high-end hotels around the country, with comfy beds, nice bathrooms and clean sheets. And no worries about the vehicle, campgrounds and everything that goes along with ownership.

Whiskey
Reply to  TempoNick
39 minutes ago

The local RV dealership businesses are closing, going bankrupt. California is effectively outlawing RVs (must be “green” electric only which do not exist and cannot exist). I see a lot of RVs in my suburban neighborhood, 10 down two streets alone. They are used for: extra housing for visiting relatives/friends from Thanksgiving through Jan 1 (at that time they get moved to the curb and extension cords are run to them), beach and desert camping, thats about it. California is also outlawing ICE vehicles by 2035, so there is that as well. No more sales or transfers. Vehicles from other… Read more »

Hun
Hun
5 hours ago

I see MSM articles about Trump’s “cognitive decline”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Hun
3 hours ago

The oft-repeated law of liberal projection: their side are doing what they accuse your side of doing.

It’s surprising how powerful this law has turned out to be.

Robbo
Robbo
2 hours ago

All correct – but without mentioning the greatest managerialist scam of them all: “climate change”. It’s always happening – somewhere else – and soaks up trillions dollars. Hopefully, it now seems to be dying.

Tars Tarkas
Member
3 hours ago

Most of the “data” discussed in the media is pure propaganda designed to manage public expectations. I forget if it was 2022 or 2023 when the GDP contracted 2 quarters in a row, but suddenly, after decades of defining a recession as 2 quarters in a row of “negative growth,” the definition was changed to deny the (brief) recession. Frankly, you know things are bad when their BS measurements can’t massage the recession away. There has been a steady erosion of the integrity of public information for the last 60 plus years. Each administration has steadily chipped away at the… Read more »

ray
ray
3 hours ago
TempoNick
TempoNick
5 hours ago

Just one little beef with what you wrote above: I remember reading that the obituary pages in the Boston area were far more numerous during COVID than they normally were. I don’t think it hurts the cause to admit that COVID was real. My theory is that the virus was good at attacking the weak parts of your system. My mom’s cancer came back causing her expiration, my cousin’s husband had a near cerebral hemorrhage, my blood sugar spiked up, etc. in addition to all the respiratory stuff people had. Just my theory, but I think this was the real… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

Back when they were reporting numbers like they were Bob McNamara, NYT wrote a story signifying, I think, 100,000 COVID deaths and listed a bunch of names. The sixth name on the list was someone who died in a car accident but tested positive for the coof afterwards. The government shut down the hospitals for elective and non-emergency services, thus depriving them of needed revenue, while also giving them a bonus for every COVID case they treated. It doesn’t take a PhD in mathematics to figure out what is going to happen when you put those two together. I don’t… Read more »

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mycale
5 hours ago

No doubt they were trying to juice the numbers, but things really were happening out in the real world that hadn’t happened in the past. My lying eyes were telling me something was indeed going on during that period of time.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

Still didn’t justify the response. If it was deadly to anyone other then those who cost the government money via SS or medicare/medicad, we would have seen piles of bodies being burnt in CHOP and the riots that happened all summer. Yes something was going around, and i’m rather certain it was .gov spreading it. A nasty flu was going around Jan/Feb of 2020, but it wasn’t covid. I caught it, knocked me flat for three days and then gone, like Lazarus arisen from the grave i felt afterwards. No covid symptoms though.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  TempoNick
5 hours ago

Covid had three goals: 1. Fear 2. Print money 3. shape politics. Anything else was a byproduct

ray
ray
Reply to  Mr. House
3 hours ago

Beta test for global management.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  ray
2 hours ago

Maybe, or desperation because after 4 years nobody really gave a shit about Russia Russia Russia but the crazies. Honestly, i’m not certain why they hung their hats on Russia in 2016. Nobody really had a reason to hate them in the general public, and the only people that hated them were the forever government who feels nobody is fit to rule but themselves. Had Ukraine happened earlier (i’m aware of what has been going on in Ukraine since 2014, but most people were not) it would have had more traction. I simply think they need to print money because… Read more »

Reaver
Reaver
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

“Something was going on.” Wow, way to take a stand with specifics. Where would we be without this useful commentary? Sounds like a boomer posting BTW, the “something going on,” was our government telling people they couldn’t go to work, or anywhere else, except to big box stores where the cough was only contagious in certain isles, and scared people away from hospitals (I worked in a hospital throughout and post covid – they amount of critical cases caused by delayed treatment is insane, and everyone involved, including boomers vague posting well after the fact, should be strung up) mandating… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Reaver
3 hours ago

I’m betting they told half the floor staff to go home, after forcing out the people who refused the shot; then the beancounters and admin started wreaking havoc with with scheduling, after they had already ruined patients’ treatment schedules. You guys were either being run ragged or at times certain wards were empty or closed off when they were needed. I’ll also bet that any admissions surges were from the delayed treatments, plus shortages in ordering, crappy PPE, chronic mask rash, and a thousand other hassles- as well as being forced to watch the inhuman treatment of your patients and… Read more »

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Reaver
2 hours ago

BTW, the “something going on,” was our government telling people they couldn’t go to work, or anywhere else,”

Gonna disagree. The “something going on” was that people pretending to be Americans complied.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

Things were definitely happening in the real world that hadn’t happened in the past! Like a color revolution being launched inside the USA!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

The only thing(s) going on were deaths of the very old and co-morbid from a novel disease—such always happens until the disease shortly mutates to a lessor virulent form, and the government “bounty” directly paid to the hospitals for treatment of Covid patients. Hospitals “diagnosed” everyone with Covid for $$$. Disease mortality “models” never took into account (changed their predictions) the predicted mutation of the disease and the lessening of mortality. Hospitals had no concept of best treatment regime for Covid and killed most of their patients through inept use of respirators before they stopped this “treatment”. The Covid that… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Compsci
3 hours ago

Right, and that’s what I’m saying. It is my observation that COVID sped up the process so I don’t think you can say the COVID had no effect. My mom came from a bloodline of people who lived a long time. She was in remission and otherwise healthy. I think she’d still be around if it wasn’t for the COVID bringing her cancer back and speeding up her demise. She was 83 so not a spring chicken, but her mom and dad lived longer than that by far. She was otherwise healthy enough that she shouldn’t have been too far… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

Did she have the mRNA vexinne? If so, the vexinne itself and the boosters are linked to the increase in all cause death rates and the reports of turbo cancers. However, more scary is that is that there is reasoned argument that perhaps the spike of the Covid protein itself has such an effect—whether or not—directly introduced through disease or vexinne. The human immune system is still a great mystery. As far as cancer is concerned it’s pretty much accepted that we *all* get cancer unknowingly because the well working immune system catches and eliminates those cells that turn cancerous,… Read more »

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

Covid was real. But we knew within a few weeks that it was mostly affecting the same age ranges of people who normally died from flu: 75+ and with a stack of co-morbidities.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mycale
3 hours ago

Fauci himself said that the shutdown of hospital facilities in response to (predicted) Covid increased needs (never happened) would cause excess deaths due to delayed treatment for illnesses (non-Covid) and delays in preventative testing. He estimated that delayed breast cancer screening could result in 10k deaths among women in the coming years. And if you think that was unusually honest for a duplicitous slimeball like Fauci, you must remember he said this during the height of the scare where he expected/predicted Covid cases would swamp the hospital system shortly. In light of that thinking, 10k excess breast cancer deaths were… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

My only experience with knowable excess deaths was when the township I live in had sharp increase in deaths…after the vax was put out.
I also note though that sharp increase was followed by a long drought, suggesting that, at least in my limited anecdote, the vax pulled forward deaths.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 hours ago

You can “pull forward deaths, and still have an elevated “all cause death” spike. Such is the case now. ACD rates have not returned to normal worldwide.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  TempoNick
4 hours ago

Covid was real. I’m unvaxxed and got it and it was basically a stubborn cold. But after it was gone, I got this crazy itchy rash i never had b4 that took a while to go away. I tend to think that having covid puts your immune system into overdrive which can have variable results

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Fakeemail
3 hours ago

Same here, but I also had a total of six funerals to go to in 2022. My mom, her first cousin, her uncle, the other half’s mom, dad and grandmother. That’s a lot in one year. Coincidence? Maybe, but I wasn’t the only one with that experience.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

How old and were they pictures of good health? Honest question

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mr. House
3 hours ago

Two of them were natural. The uncle was in his 90s and the grandmother was 100 years old and in a nursing home. She also wanted to go so maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned them. The rest of them late ’70s early ’80s and they all had some kind of pre-existing condition which also goes back to my theory about covid attacking the weak parts of your system. They already had “chïnks” in their armor and COVID sped up their demise. My theory, anyway, and I think it dovetails with the conspiracy theories about certain elements trying to substantially reduce… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

I didn’t downvote you FYI and thanks for the response.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

The vexxine is most likely the answer. Did these people get the “jab”?

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  TempoNick
2 hours ago

Just like a really bad flu has done in the past.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Fakeemail
2 hours ago

Overdrive is not the issue, complacency/supression of the immune system is. The Covid vexinne, and especially the repeated boosters, cause a rise in IGG4 antibodies. IGG3 antibodies fight the current disease. IGG4 antibodies tell the immune system, “Nothing to worry about here, we’ve seen this before and nothing bad happened…” In short, these antibodies are typical in recurring insults like Spring pollen and the like. They quite down the immune response, which to those insults are worse than the disease. WRT to Covid spike proteins, this is bad news—and it seems likely to suppress the immune system in general, hence… Read more »

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Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

Weren’t you arguing with me a few weeks ago when i said covid was murder, change my mind? If your goal is to reduce the population thru means other then natural causes, no matter what the goal, isn’t that murder? Just asking because your current comment seems to agree with my assessment.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  TempoNick
3 hours ago

Your COVID is sounding a lot like some other people’s Holocaust.