The Story Of Hollywood

If you make any effort to consume popular films and television shows, you will notice that much of the content is now locked away on streaming services. You will also notice that many films go straight to a streaming service, or they have a short run in theaters then get sent to a service. Everyone in the film business now has a streaming service and they need content. Like a great, gaping maw that must be fed, the services are sucking up everything they can find.

The funny thing about this shift is that the services are turning out to be a massive money loser for the industry. On the one hand, streaming robs from the theaters, especially small local theaters, by removing cheap content they would use to attract daytime audiences in the summer.  On the other hand, the public has not embraced the streaming service concept as expected. Every service, except Netflix, is a money loser at the moment and none of those are close to getting in the black.

The prime example of the streaming problem is Disney Plus, which loses money every month despite having the massive Disney catalogue. It has the most subscribers and it does generate a lot of monthly revenue, but it also generates massive amounts of expense that swallows up that cash. Much of this is due to the many flops Disney has produced recently, but the concept seems to be the problem. That and the costs make pirating films much more attractive.

The streaming story is a good example of how culture is too complicated to model with a green visor and excel spreadsheet. The bean counters just assumed streaming would follow the model of the rental market, which followed the pattern they saw in the secondary theater market. Low budget films, mediocre films and even terrible films made additional money in the secondary theater market. When take-home rentals came along, these films often got a second life in this market.

It has not worked that way with streaming. A film like the live action Snow White, which was torn apart by internet critics, was a massive flop at the theaters, but then had no life in the streaming market. In the old days, it would get rentals from people curious about it or for get-togethers with friends to have a good time laughing at a bad film. That is not the dynamic with streaming. People will watch nothing rather than sit down to watch a bad movie or something unknown to them.

What streaming failed to account for is the social aspect of films. In the old days, going to the theater for many people was like going to church. It was a thing you did every weekend, not because of the content but because of the social aspect. The theater was where men took their dates and the choice of film or how they selected the film to see was part of the courtship. Friends went to the theater, even if the films on offer were unknown or not good, because it was part of the social event.

Today, the theater is, at best, a sterile place to just see a film. In most cases, it means wading through diversity and tolerating people screaming at the screen, or shooting at it, in order to see a film that will be streaming in a few weeks. The theater is also an expensive proposition now. While this still works for big blockbuster films with good reviews, it is a deal killer for everything else. The theater is no longer a community experience, but a transactional one.

A similar dynamic held the rental market together. People in the suburbs stopped at the rental place to shop for videos. Usually, it was with friends or family, as it would be part of the social experience. Young people with little money could rent some bad films, buy a pizza, and make an evening of it. At the rental place people often talked about the films, which could result in a low-budget film becoming a hit in the rental market as word of mouth boosted its appeal.

That social aspect is gone with streaming. It is a solitary thing for many people because of the atomization of society. No one deliberately watches a bad film on their own because the best way to enjoy that content is with friends. Mystery Science Theater 3000 became a hit because everyone could relate to it. At the same time, people are less likely to try something unknown because why waste your leisure time on a film that you have never heard of, that might be terrible?

Of course, the dynamics of the American film market is why the studios now look to foreign markets for profit. This means more films high on big flashy effects and low on sensible dialogue and plot. They went all in comic book films at the same time they went all in on streaming for the same reason. The flashy stuff on screen works for non-English speakers abroad, so maybe it will work on them at home. Maybe it will also rope in the valuable white audience as well

The reason Hollywood is in trouble, and they are in serious trouble, is they detached themselves from the social aspects of their industry. No other country was able to produce a movie industry like America, because America was a unique place that needed a popular culture to hold it together. In the 20th century, film, television and sports were what everyone had in common. Hollywood was part of the national social capital that defined “American” for people.

As we see everywhere, Hollywood looked at the social capital and wondered how they could turn it into quick cash. They were not alone and maybe not the driving force behind this phenomenon. Mass migration played a role. The desire to harvest American social capital was also behind mass migration. Hollywood, however, needs a shared culture to work and now that the national social capital has been just about consumed, Hollywood is just another commodity.

Wherever the current crisis takes us, it is likely that the story of Hollywood tracks the story of the crisis. An industry that was integral to the people who made it possible is suffering the same fate as the culture it helped destroy. You cannot have a common culture containing people from every part of the globe. At best, it is a somewhat peaceful marketplace where people retreat into their private culture to get away from the cacophony of alien voices in the public square.

Hollywood was always a product of the public square. For it to be Hollywood and not just a film production center, it needed that vibrant American public square created by the people who created America. The people who made Hollywood could not have done it anywhere else. Now that the public square is collapsing and the people who made it are marginalized, Hollywood is dying. The oxpecker finally found a way to kill the host and as the host dies, it dies with it.


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FNC1A1
Member
1 day ago

Hollywood deserves to die

David Wright
David Wright
Reply to  FNC1A1
1 day ago

Jack Warner tried to diddle Shirley Temple. The reckoning is here!

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  David Wright
1 day ago

which Shirley Temple? The adult midget in the movies, or the child version used for promotions?

Brandon Johnson's Hair
Brandon Johnson's Hair
Reply to  karl von hungus
23 hours ago

The cocktail?

Marko
Marko
Reply to  David Wright
23 hours ago

The grossest violation was when Gwyneth Palthrow let Harvey Weinstein schtup her in exchange for an Oscar in Shakespeare in Love.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Marko
22 hours ago

That’s a pretty good deal for her tbh. Endure for a few minutes, in exchange for a lifetime of riches and fame. You’d think she could have been more grateful. Something about Briffault’s Law I guess.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
21 hours ago

You’d think she could have been more grateful.

“I’ll never have to suck another Jewish cock again!”

Marilyn Monroe, upon renegotiating her contract with 20th Century Fox, 1955.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Templar
20 hours ago

Norma Jean had a lot of Jewish connections including her husband and her mind-bending shrink, the latter who probably killed her. Then she had whatever dealing with the Kennedys. . .

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  Marko
22 hours ago

I tried to watch that movie several times, but I always fell asleep before I finished it.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
20 hours ago

We thought it was pretty good, due to a screenplay by the great Tom Stoppard, who was uncredited by Weinstein…

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Marko
22 hours ago

But look who her parents are: Blythe Danner and (((Bruce Paltroff))). I’m sure they did a thing or two to get to where they are or two initiate others in the club.

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Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  TempoNick
22 hours ago

It’s instructive that having successful hollywood parents merely gets your foot in the door to bang the hebrew

Whiskey
Reply to  TempoNick
17 hours ago

Bruce Dern comes from money and is about is WASPish as you can get. He plays everyman, but his grandfather was a Governor of Utah and Secretary of War. His father ran a utility company and was a distinguished attorney. His mother was Scottish and Dern was related through her to poet Archibald McLeish.

Blythe Danner is of English/Irish and Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whiskey
12 hours ago

Bruce Dern may not be Jewish, but Bruce Paltrow was most definitely 100%. Go away.

Rented mule
Rented mule
Reply to  Marko
10 hours ago

That broad is ultra skank
Sells candles sented like her vag.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  David Wright
20 hours ago

I believe that was the MGM honchos, not Warner.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  FNC1A1
23 hours ago

Hollywood and public education have been the two biggest drivers in our decline by far. They both need to go, at least in their current form. Maybe it is just me, but there seems to be a real decline in the interest of celebrity culture also. 15-20 years ago, normies followed the opinions of the carnies closely and they had some influence. Now it seems as though no one cares what they think and when they do wade into politics they are met with scorn.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Barnard
23 hours ago

Public schools are on the ropes. Between insane school boards and flooding them with migrants, we’re not far from a huge migration to private schools. The only thing stopping it is cost, but parents will do just about anything to protect their kids.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
23 hours ago

Public school enrollment is on the decline in most states. The reasons are a combination of declining birth rates and families doing everything they can to get out of them whether private or home schooling. This is why the insane NEA President was ranting about immigration at the LA Riots. They desperately need immigrant kids in public schools to keep the money flowing to them. If we can drive enrollment low enough, the system can be scrapped and overhauled.

Grant
Grant
Reply to  Barnard
23 hours ago

Declining enrollment has multiple blessings. One of the only ways to get rid of a tenured public school teacher (outside of them doing something illegal) is to demonstrate declining enrollment and thus less of a need for teachers. The shrieking harridans are all on the chopping block fighting for their jobs.

ray
ray
Reply to  Barnard
22 hours ago

The NEA and AFT must be broken. They are core-leftist organizations hostile to masculinity, whiteness, and Christianity. They are enemies and should be treated as such.

They do not teach, they indoctrinate with their demonic ideo-politics. They cannot be reformed.

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  Barnard
22 hours ago

Invader’s kids also help drive grades down, so more funds can go to ESG and other remedial programs for the nons.

No public school should have any nons, with the exception of a few foreign exchange students.
Make America White Again.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
23 hours ago

Maryland has been putting condom machines in elementary schools. And taxing local fossil-fuel energy providers. Now they are predicting rolling blackouts. I hope every jogger, mestizo, immigrant, bureaucrat, and small hat in that benighted state dies in the dark.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  3g4me
22 hours ago

Reliable electricity likely will become a thing of the past soon enough for vast swathes of the United States.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
22 hours ago

There are tampon machines in the men’s restroom of the two swanky new library branches near me. We’ve always had freaks, but never so many in decision making roles.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  TempoNick
22 hours ago

Most librarians are female leftist freaks and shrews. Most libraries have become slight variants of computer centers; they are abominations. Most people cannot think, let alone read. Between emojis and ebonic/electronic abbreviations, we’ve regressed to pictographs. Imma hurl.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
22 hours ago

One of the two near me is okay, but it’s a little bit of a farther drive. The one closest to me is like a daycare center for all the black kids in the area apartments. Not too many freaks on this side of town, but more and more diversity creeping its way in.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TempoNick
20 hours ago

One or two isn’t okay, they might be lonely. We should chain-migrate the rest of their welfare generations there into public housing so they’ll have a comforting environment.

I mean, going back to Atlanta is like going back to the old country, amirite? They’re refugees!

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 hours ago

As I said yesterday. If you are picky about who you let in up front, you would typically want their family members as well. Win-win.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
20 hours ago

Heard on LA radio (by a black host on a Jewish station, KFI):
“Let the emojis guide us…”

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 hours ago

late edit: woops, sorry, it was

“Let the emojis be our guide…”

(That sounds better as well.)

ray
ray
Reply to  TempoNick
21 hours ago

Psychological war by the empowered prog hags that run libraries in New Amerika.

For the same reason, the grrls schedule Drag Queen Story Hour for ‘their’ libraries.

It says to the nation’s men, ‘You are so cucked and impotent, we will rub these freaks in your face and in the faces of your children. If you object our police will arrest you and our courts will convict you. County jail is right around the corner.’

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  ray
19 hours ago

Just learned that the Saturday “No Kings” protest being held 30 miles away is being organized/sponsored by a local “progressive women’s group.” If I didn’t have other plans (and wouldn’t be sickened/infuriated by all the attendees) I’d go take pictures of everyone who showed up. It would be handy to have for the future. Men build civilization. Women destroy it.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
18 hours ago
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ray
ray
Reply to  TempoNick
14 hours ago

Great find. I just wrote about the Walton monsters.

Here is the queen bee. She and her organizations seek the destruction of family, fatherhood, and masculinity itself. Want to know why your country is always burning, always in crises, full of hostile invaders?

Look upon your ruler and shudder.

U.S. men better sack up and oppose these satanic forces, or they will overwhelm you.

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  ray
12 hours ago

If you read her bio, she grew up in Jackson, Wyoming. One thing I’ve noticed is that it’s easy to be “Wyoming nice” when you don’t have to experience all the “charms” of big city living on a regular basis.

ray
ray
Reply to  3g4me
14 hours ago

I am not just guessing about female nature.

ray
ray
Reply to  3g4me
13 hours ago

Very informative and useful, thank you.

It is lovely after a battle ‘outside’ to retreat to your mountain, no? Certainly I have, just as many times as I could manage in my life. About all I miss about America is the Western mountain ranges.

Easier to com with God when you’re holed up in the tall pine and the great doug fir, got a creek nearby. Won’t get any closer to heaven in this world.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
11 hours ago

I prefer wood chipper feet first

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
20 hours ago

Private schools already dominate for parents who have money…but also, the wealthy areas generally demand much better schools, though they too have had problems with woke teachers and school boards…

Chris
Chris
Reply to  pyrrhus
19 hours ago

Quite right. Friends of mine had their daughter in a small, private school in CT (Wooster School) a few years ago and it was a great fit. A year and a half later, new principal who brought her daughter along. The principal was militant woke and her freak of a daughter – along with her friends – patrolled the school like the gestapo. Anything they overheard that they didn’t like, they ran right to the principal and ratted the other kids out. After being told by the principal that if they didn’t like it, tough shit, my friends pulled their… Read more »

Rented mule
Rented mule
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 hours ago

I sent all four of my kids to.private school, on a mechanics pay. It was worth every penny. They are all doing better than I ever did. But they did get their moms brains.

Brandon Johnson's Hair
Brandon Johnson's Hair
Reply to  Barnard
23 hours ago

The hypocracy turns off too many folks. Covid shots for thee but not for me. Private jets to climate conferences. Open borders but not for gated communities.

The veneer pealed back to expose the lies. The interwebz to communicate the information. Processes accelerating events and they just can’t keep up anymore, they’re losing their grasp.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Barnard
22 hours ago

Part of the reason is that they could take a real life carney like Cary Grant (he was a circus acrobat, wasn’t he?), put him through finishing school to teach him some social graces and he becomes larger than life as the lovable rogue with high class tastes he played in most movies. Now they grab any low life out of the gutter without bothering with the finishing school part. Johnny Depp could easily still be back in the hollers of Kentucky being your local dope dealer. No class at all.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  TempoNick
21 hours ago

(he was a circus acrobat, wasn’t he?)

Acrobat, stilt-walker, occasional comedian…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Templar
19 hours ago

I stood in line at the grocery store next to a small fellow- he looked about 9- with tiny diamond stud earrings.

This was such an odd thing to see in a 1970s one-stoplight little Nevada town I was taken aback, so I chatted him up a bit. Turns out his acrobat family was traveling through as part of the circus. He was out, just looking around.

What struck me, though, was his air of serene confidence and capable competence. Pure Alpha. It was the same kind of cool magnetism that Cary Grant exuded.

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mmack
mmack
Reply to  FNC1A1
22 hours ago

Eh, it’s been done:

An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118577/

Fittingly, it was a bomb. 💣

My Comment
My Comment
23 hours ago

Hollywood’s problems can be summed up by the movie the Joker and its sequel. The Joker was a huge hit, raking in over a billion dollars. However, it appealed to men whom Hollywood hates and for reasons that Hollywood finds repulsive. So they created a shitlib sequel that tanked. Most of Hollywood, especially the foreign tribe who runs it and white women, would rather lose money than create products for people they hate.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  My Comment
23 hours ago

The Saturday person who directed Joker seems to have gotten the message from his handlers that the wrong people liked Joker and he needed to fix it. If I recall, he even said as much about the audience in interviews leading up to the release of Joker 2. It is insane how much these people hate us, Joker 2 probably lost hundreds of millions of dollars but it’s worth it to rub our face in it.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mycale
22 hours ago

“Saturday person.” Lol. I like that one almost as much as I like “small hats.”

Good one.

As Z said, there was never any truly widespread anti-Semitism in this country. But the small hats are going to change that.

That’s what you get for shoving diversity down our throats.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  TempoNick
21 hours ago

As Z said, there was never any truly widespread anti-Semitism in this country. But the small hats are going to change that.

Gotta love self-fulfilling prophecies.

ray
ray
Reply to  My Comment
22 hours ago

They are willing to go broke if it means spiting us. NormieCons cannot grasp this. They’re willing to destroy the nation if it means we suffer with it.

That is a mentality that cannot be corrected. Only one measure suffices for a hatred and resentment that runs so deep.

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Mr. Invisible
Mr. Invisible
Reply to  ray
21 hours ago

Conservatives have been banking on “they’ll go out of business!” for the past 40 years when it comes to culture and education. This is due to their inability to model other minds. They project their own tastes and mindset on the American population as a whole, and assume that because they would not produce something that would “lose money” (they don’t understand how a Hollywood film “loses money”), then eventually, others will follow suit. The market will punish them, those basket-weaving majors won’t get jobs, they said while shaving each morning. It cannot be corrected; it only ends when a… Read more »

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Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Mr. Invisible
21 hours ago

That goes to Z’s post on materialism earlier this week. Conservatives are mostly retarded and cannot wrap their head around the fact that not everything can be reduced to money and markets.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dodson
19 hours ago

But money and markets are colorblind, you see, so that’s the only fair metric we should use.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Alzaebo
17 hours ago

I suspect most conservatards would find that a fine argument.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dodson
11 hours ago

I’d argue that the real conservative failure was the failure to realize that the US university system is like a communist-controlled flock of tens of millions of golden geese that poop out golden eggs on a daily basis.

Why would the commies ever worry about money when they have a system like that under their complete control?

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  ray
20 hours ago

Trump is saying that Democrats’ incompetence caused the LA riots. Nonsense. That was all by design

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  My Comment
19 hours ago

It’s a postage stamp sized area that needs redevelopment. As Whiskey pointed out yesterday, Karen Bass of the Cuban Venceremos Brigades is drooling at the prospect of “enterprise zone” redevelopment funds. (She’s also loving the camera, as well.)

Me, I’m with Jimmy Dore on this. It’s manufacturing consent for the rollout of Palantir Juden technocracy, as Musk has synchronized the DC database.

At least we’ll get our Hitler!
JD Hamel Bowman Vance- on 2nd thought, that’s exactly what White People need: legitimate authority and organization, we’ll take it back from Them when he’s gone.

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Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  Alzaebo
10 hours ago

It’s the same organizations and the same financing and deep state connections as Occupy, BLM, Antifa, St. George of the faux $20, Palestine, and now anti-ICE, just the newest sequel of that same old song and dance. And everything anti-Trump of course, and the climate nuts. It’s all for the revolution, whatever the cause happens to be.

My Comment
My Comment
23 hours ago

“Hollywood looked at the social capital and wondered how they could turn it into quick cash” That is being generous. Hollywood is run by an alien tribe that felt it was time to show how much they hated White people and normal life. That was more important than making money and to a large degree still is. The studios are filled with people who hate their viewers. Maybe that will change as the Chinese gain more control (because making money rules with Chinese) but no one knows. I mainly read but, as a break, watch some streaming because I can… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  My Comment
22 hours ago

For me its as simple as i’m not going to pay for something that goes out of its way to offend me. When are they going to mandate we must have at least one streaming service is my question……… for the jorbsssssssssssssssssss

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Mr. House
20 hours ago

On that line of thought, how do i stop paying for government?

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  Mr. House
16 hours ago

Seriously?

Get out of debt, stay out of debt, lower your spending to the point where your income doesn’t need to exceed the standard deduction.

It’s not the luxurious, faux-rich lifestyle everyone seems to want to have nowadays, nor is it easy, but it works if your goal is to stop paying for “government”.

Welfare bums and the “homeless” could be said to be working the same angle, but as government dependents they’re not doing anything to further the cause of reducing “government”, which I presume is one of your unspoken goals.

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Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  CorkyAgain
16 hours ago

I agree, but i’m not sure how you got that out of my comment. I live way below my means my man.

suppose i should have added /s after my last comment.

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CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  Mr. House
15 hours ago

That’s why I prefaced my reply with “Seriously?”

Oldster
Oldster
Reply to  Mr. House
16 hours ago

Sitting down with the family to watch Twisters on Amazon, trailer looked good, and we loved H_ngm_n from Top Gun, who stars in this picture. Barely one minute in white female storm chaser with a black boyfriend. Turned it off and my kids knew why and agreed.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Oldster
13 hours ago

I find that now with every book I read regardless of genre (western, fantasy, whodunit, historical fiction). And every time I curse and throw down the kindle, my husband encourages me to read one of his nonfiction books – but that’s exactly what I’m trying to escape from (since I can’t rewrite it).

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  3g4me
8 hours ago

Gutenberg is your friend. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of books. Archive has all of the pulps scanned too. I just read 2 stories from them, When Worlds Collide and After Worlds Collide, though they are sci-fi, which is more my thing. But I’m pretty sure there are pulps that specialize in who done it and Westerns. If you go back far enough, no woke, no race mixing, no superwomen and all of the other SJW BS. I read a story by Jules Verne (years ago) called “Off on a Comet” and it is about the most unwoke mainstream… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Oldster
11 hours ago

Speaking of which, I was inside Sheetz in what is now kind of a trashy part of town. In the 10 minutes I was there, three black-white couples. Of course, the female was white. Fortunately, they were middle-aged so they aren’t going to be pooping out any halfrican kids, but what the hell is wrong with white women these days?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mr. House
11 hours ago

I’m waiting for the internet tax they are going to tack on as a gift to Hollywood. You know, like those TV station fees they charge on your cable bill for TV stations you can get for free over the air

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  My Comment
21 hours ago

Might I suggest the great catalog of feature films hosted on http://www.archive.org?

I recently went throughPolanski's "apartment trilogy" (I know...a VILE human being but an a-1 film maker). There's  also an awesome compilation/catalog of Angie Dickinson vehicles:
https://archive.org/details/01-angie-dickinson
Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  rasqball
20 hours ago

Some of our local theaters feature classic films occasionally. It’s nice to see them on the big screen. Next up for us is Sunset Boulevard.

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  rasqball
20 hours ago

There are also some streaming sites that don’t charge. Pirate sites. Given the streaming sites hate us as much as Hollywood that is an option.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  My Comment
18 hours ago

I used to use Popcorn Time a lot, but there is so little new content I’m interested in, I haven’t wasted my time with it lately.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  My Comment
11 hours ago

Being ahead of the curve on this stuff is a great feeling though.

usNthem
usNthem
23 hours ago

The social aspects of just about everything have been wrecked by “diversity”. I simply don’t want to go any place (at least willingly) where I have to be around or deal with it. When I was growing up, it was a novelty. These days, you have to work hard just to minimize it.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  usNthem
22 hours ago

Move to vanishing rural White America. I go to town once a week. In a bad week, I may see one black or mestizo (albeit never in a position of authority or even service). In a normal week I see and deal with nothing but White heritage Americans. Friendly, courteous, helpful. I actually smile at strangers now, wait patiently if there’s a line, and feel blessed to live here.

Dr_Mantis_Tobbogan_MD
Member
Reply to  3g4me
18 hours ago

Our nearby town in the next valley is the same way. When the foreigners from Atlanta show up to gawk and take pictures at the waterfalls and the mountain vistas, they’re treated coolly at best and with disdain at worst.

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NIdahoOrthodox
NIdahoOrthodox
Reply to  3g4me
16 hours ago

Here in North Idaho there is very little “diversity.”

Gunners
Gunners
Reply to  3g4me
15 hours ago

Without giving too much away, may I ask where this is approximately?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Gunners
13 hours ago

Ozarks. In the middle of the woods, fifteen miles from a tiny town of less than 2000 people, 45 minutes to the nearest Walmart (hate it but don’t have many options), more than 100 miles from any interstate.

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  usNthem
22 hours ago

We go to the river or go hiking. Not going to see much Diversity out in nature.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
18 hours ago

They keep trying to convince us otherwise. Just this morning I saw a tourism ad for the state of Michigan. It showed a black guy in a kayak out on some lake with a laptop and desk lamp mounted on the front of thing. The people that made that one were probably having a bit of fun with their boss’ requirements – “Let’s have an outdoorsy scene with some DIEversity”. This country is a parody of itself.

Brandon Johnson's Hair
Brandon Johnson's Hair
23 hours ago

A small-hatted acquaintance has spent hundreds of thousands subsidizing a daughter in NYC. She is a talent agent with a major player and doesn’t earn enough income to support herself.

I’ve shared with him evidence that AI will destroy the role of a talent agent with all non-stage performances. The daughter is fixated on continuing to play talent agent no matter her reality.

(((They))) poison their own wells.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Brandon Johnson's Hair
23 hours ago

May she never procreate.

Brandon Johnson's Hair
Brandon Johnson's Hair
Reply to  3g4me
22 hours ago

I believe she likes other girls. Amen.

They’re truly myopic with no self-awareness. The problem is they burrow into their host and take it down with them.

Their whole modus operandi could be change and they assimilate but the easy short term gains are too tempting and they go full schizo on us. It’s a wonder they persist. I suppose something else would replace them.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Brandon Johnson's Hair
21 hours ago

Yes, Indians. They and we have no chance against the Indians unless we send them home where they belong.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Brandon Johnson's Hair
21 hours ago

Indians (dot)

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  3g4me
21 hours ago

https://www.jdate.com/

She will – mazel tov!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
23 hours ago

The retreat to our private cultures is America’s future – at best. The great separation will continue, whether it be people physically moving to areas more in tune with their race and culture or people joining clubs, schools, churches and other organizations in their area to be around people like themselves.

The public square will be for negotiations among the various tribes. Naturally, this will continue to erode our infrastructure and government. Nothing public will be seen as “ours,” so why maintain it.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
22 hours ago

The monoculture is absolutely dead which is bad for the people who controlled it. I would say the only thing that maintains cultural dominance is some parts of sportsball, which is probably why there has been so much focus on it in terms of social engineering the past 10 years. Watch ESPN and if you didn’t know better you would think it is 2015 with the way they talk about things. Commentators have noted that while corporate America has largely retreated from “pride month”, all the sports leagues and teams are prominently displaying the rainbowed version of their logo. But… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mycale
21 hours ago

I’ve been anticipating a “spoke and hub” society for a while. Major metro areas acting as the hub for work/commerce, and ethnic enclaves in the ‘burbs surrounding it.

Not ideal, but I think workable for the near future.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  c matt
18 hours ago

What c matt says has precedent: when I stepped foot in my first East Coast city, Boston, you could see a stark difference between the neighborhoods. Democrat Party-enforced segregation law had created stark ethnic territories, divided by invisible markers as thin as one small street.

Walking from block to block, I passed through gingered Irish speaking brogue, swarthy Mediterraneans chatting in Italian, Caribbean darkies calling in Creole, Latinos in rapid-fire Spanish. They lived and had their Tinker’s Streets in spokes, while mixing only in communal hubs.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Mycale
21 hours ago

But there are signs things are beginning to fray as it did with broader culture.

I think the NHL backed off of the rainbows after all of the Russian hockey players in North America refused to participate.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Templar
11 hours ago

What child of the ’80s would ever dream that one day we would look up to Russians as our saviors, at least in some respects.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  TempoNick
8 hours ago

I always liked Ivan Drago.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
21 hours ago

It is America’s present. The self-sorting is rendering the concept of states and regions somewhat obsolete. Sure, political jurisdictions can make laws and immiserate, but increasingly they cannot enforce their edicts. Whites are about the only group that obeys law now as it is, and that’s going away. Someone has suggested that Trump give pre-emptive pardons to people who refuse to pay income taxes unless illegal aliens are deported. Clever, but we are on the verge of such a thing being unnecessary–people will stop paying soon enough. Expect a different mode of extraction, and that also will have a limited… Read more »

Luther's Turd
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
21 hours ago

We can only pray this is the csse.

Luther’s Turd

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Luther's Turd
18 hours ago

(“Luther’s Turd” is obnoxious enough, kindly do us the favor – a signoff reminds us of a certain pestiferous bot. That’s what the downvotes are saying, amigo.)

The Greek
The Greek
23 hours ago

You forget another important aspect killing Hollywood: YouTube. Especially with the under 40s crowd, I can watch some anti-white, leftist, or just plain bad movie/series on a streaming service, or I can sit for an hour and binge and hour or two of YouTube videos. The zoomers will even watch twitch livestreams of other people playing video games before watching a tv show. Heck, I’ve seen groups of friends all watching a movie “together” and half the group is just doomscrolling TikTok and instagram.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  thezman
22 hours ago

YouTube has also backed off on copyright infringement beatdowns. I think what they do now is they leave copyright infringing videos up, but won’t let you monetize them.

For example, I like watching the movie “Charley Varrick” every so often. I couldn’t find it playing anywhere for free, but it’s there on YouTube and it has been for a while.

https://youtu.be/9ovbzXVWFqs

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Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  thezman
22 hours ago

There are thousands of old TV shows, movies and films on youtube. I just finished watching the Boston Blackie (a knockoff of The Lone Wolf) hour long film series on youtube. I think these hour long films were for matinees in the theaters from the 30s to the 50s. Some good, some not so good.

I have prime which comes with the prime delivery and it absolutely blows. You have to watch commercials and get a horrible selection. It’s almost entirely modern b movies. Every single time I go on there looking for a particular film, it’s not available.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
21 hours ago

There are thousands of old TV shows, movies and films on youtube. 

Ex: someone’s uploaded every single installment of the 1940s Topper film series last I looked.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Templar
21 hours ago

Thanks. I’ll check it out. Never heard of it.
Someone uploaded all the episodes of The Untouchables, which was a pretty good series.
But the problem with youtube is these things go up and down like crazy and there are usually multiple copies of the same film, so it’s hard to keep track of what you watch other than writing it down somewhere. I used to leave a comment like “OK, watched 11/24” but that quickly proved useless.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
20 hours ago

ok.ru/video is great for finding any old movie you want free and ad free (I don’t think it was meant to be ad free but evidently the ads were set up to run in russia and don’t seem to work here). But you have to put in a little effort to find the original English language version of a movie among all the dubbed foreign language ones.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 hours ago

Heh! My bestie used to complain that the only movies I made him watch were ones we had to read.

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NIdahoOrthodox
NIdahoOrthodox
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
16 hours ago

For $3 a month on Prime, no ads. It’s worth it.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
18 hours ago

Postcards From Barsoom makes a magnificent case that youtube and the internet are doing to university what Gutenberg’s press did to monasteries: erasing the demonic university system as the head of the cultural hydra.

This will return clubs of learning and apprenticeships of skill to true meritocratic status, unleashing the creative power of our civilization.

His case is laid out remarkably well- what gets me are the paintings of the abandoned monasteries, ruined hubs of vast wealth, power, and privilege (as our colleges are today.)

Enjoy! https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-class-of-2026

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  Alzaebo
16 hours ago

I love the idea of Trump doing to the universities what Henry VIII did to the monasteries.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 hours ago

…what gets me are the paintings of the abandoned monasteries, ruined hubs of vast wealth, power, and privilege…

Monasteries weren’t simply enclaves for credentialed eggheads as our universities are, though. They were hospitals, food-banks, emergency shelters and whatever else the local populace needed, and (in England, at least) they weren’t abandoned so much as seized by the crown and then doled out to the Protestant nouveau riche in exchange for various favours. Social dysfunction in England skyrocketed after the dissolution of the monasteries and only really began to abate in the 19th century.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  The Greek
22 hours ago

And you forgot one as well: FAST Channels (Free Ad-Supported Streaming TV). Between Pluto, Tubi, FreeVee and a few others what the hell do I need cable or paid streaming for? The movies are generally older, but a lot of them are not too old. So what if I’ve seen Jack Reacher 10 times? It’s an entertaining enough movie and it’s mostly background noise while I’m doing something else anyway. Terminator 2 again? It was on last night while I was cleaning up my office.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
21 hours ago

There is a lot on youtube as well. No commercials. Over the winter I watched a bunch of Stephen King movies on youtube. If you like really old stuff, like B&W, there are thousands upon thousands of them.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
21 hours ago

Grit is also good for Westerns at night. Grit is usually on one of the subchannels on over the air television, depending on how many channels you have in your market.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
20 hours ago

The best thing about youtube is that you can download most of the stuff on there with Realplayer.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Mike
17 hours ago

I just deleted hundreds of gigabytes of TV shows I recorded with my converter box DVR that I copied to the hard drive. I was running out of space and I didn’t want to buy yet another hard drive. I kept some, ones I’ve yet to watch, but on a cheap thumb drive I bought.

Most of the stuff I watch on youtube hasn’t seen a TV screen in decades and are unlikely to be permanently erased from youtube. I just cannot watch most new TV shows and movies. Even when they are not pure propaganda, they are unwatchable garbage.

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  TempoNick
16 hours ago

One of the benefits of living near an urban center is the availability of digital TV broadcasts over the air that to watch you need only an inexpensive antenna on your bookshelf or windowsill. I’ve been using it to watch old TV westerns and Star Trek episodes and it reminds me of the days when those programs were new: you only get what’s currently being broadcast instead of being able to browse the catalog, and if you miss the beginning of the show, you can’t rewind it. There are commercials too, of course, but I’m finding most of them amusing.… Read more »

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ray
ray
23 hours ago

The mandates of modern Amerika — race pandering, explicit sex everywhere, and the real killer, feminism and its $MeToo totalitarianism — doomed Hollywood. It insists on making war on the people who built it, white men (you built nothing, Obozo). Mary Sue Empowered kicks the white man’s ass. Masculine, white heroes are degraded before being transformed into character containers pleasing to the woke-fem politburo: females who are instantly perfect and need undergo neither training nor struggle, of-coloreds, and homos. Hollywood had everything, threw it away to lecture and humiliate its betters. Hollywood chose to be my enemy, just like New… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  ray
23 hours ago

Take the latest “Mad Max” movie. It flopped because it turns out that no one wants to watch a Mad Max movie with a female basically playing the Mad Max character.

Who would have thunk it?

ray
ray
Reply to  george 1
22 hours ago

As you say, nobody wants it except the fembots and the white haters. It is far more important to wound and discomfit us than to make money or art.

That’s how you know it’s a spiritual war.

Would they destroy not only film, but the entire planet, for the sole reason of taking us down? Believe it. Such is a cult of death.

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Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  ray
22 hours ago

There has always been a level of subversion in Hollywood films. The perversion really took off after they ditched the Hays Code and now it’s in full bloom.
Devin Stack had a good series on Hollywood subversion of our values several years ago.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
18 hours ago

They Hays Code started because of the increasing depravity and subversion the Usual Suspects were injecting into American film.
The Code didn’t happen one day for no reason at all.

Last edited 18 hours ago by Alzaebo
Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  ray
20 hours ago

This stuff has been there a long time. You can see messaging really start to infiltrate TV and film as early as the 50s and 40s.

I just watched a 40s movie with James Stuart (it’s a wonderful life guy) in it where he plays the reluctant SJW reporter who fights to get a cop killer (a foreigner, of course) out of prison, “Call Northside 777, 1949” Lots of propaganda. Allegedly based on a true story. Miracle date on a newspaper blown up from a photo supposedly proves the witness could have theoretically lied. “Real killers” never caught.

Mycale
Mycale
23 hours ago

The whole streaming thing is one of the more hilarious self-owns I have ever seen in business. You now have to have 15 different subscriptions if you want to watch everything, so people just hop around and wait for deals and cancel instead of in the past where you just had cable and paid it every month. The price transparency and annoyance of juggling these services has killed the loyalty people had for these studios and their products. The companies also invested massively in IP and brands – Disney spent $70 billion on Fox – and then threw it on… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Mycale
23 hours ago

i read that a lot of people will sign up for a service to watch one program, then cancel the service a month later after viewing all episodes.

Last edited 23 hours ago by karl von hungus
Ed S
Ed S
Reply to  Mycale
22 hours ago

Zman makes some valid points, but since he really seems to want to write about culture, he misses several factors that made streaming non-viable. And one obvious one is what you just pointed out, that the way to do this would have been to have the studios get together, and created a single platform, so people would just have to subscribe to a single platform, and then parcel out the net revenue among the studios based on views or some other metric. And by the way, the reason they didn’t do this, and it would have been a fairly obvious… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ed S
19 hours ago

Yeah, that’s something they don’t seem to get. I’m not going to pay to watch Peacock and Paramount Plus on top of that, and Disney on top of that. But then again, we had all that stuff together in one place, cable. They ended up killing the golden goose by getting too greedy, dumbing down content, maximizing commercials, getting greedy with fees. I simply don’t like the content enough to pay for it anymore. If it’s not on Free TV or free internet, I’m not interested. If you’re also going to run 12 minutes of commercials in a row, I’m… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  thezman
22 hours ago

IIRC, Hulu was initially set up as a kind of “not-Netflix” which was meant to offer content from many studios. But they got greedy and decided that instead of splitting the pie they should make their own. It didn’t work that way and melted down soon after, although Hulu still exists in skeleton form (mostly through FOX content and offering ESPN and Disney bundles).

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Mycale
20 hours ago

Yes that’s right. Disney was very late to the streaming party. Wall Street really criticized them for it.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  thezman
19 hours ago

Disney understood those issues and piracy too (perhaps better than anyone). But you’re absolutely right that Disney over-estimated the power of their content relative to the power of the streaming business model. Netflix/Amazon got a huge amount of money for new content so they got better. Then Disney’s content got worse. By then, Disney was late to streaming and had crap content to boot. This isn’t a new problem; many media executives failed to appreciate technology and distribution paradigm shifts. Remember AOL/Time Warner? Ted Turner is one of the rare media executives who also understood technological change. George Lucas is… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Mycale
22 hours ago

These things run in cycles. Hollywood has had waves of outsiders influence it heavily, so it hasn’t had a consistent management culture. When I first came to the business (mid-80s), Hollywood was bad and outsiders (eg Sony and Ted Turner) came to the industry to try to reform it. In fact, this whole outsider wave started (if you don’t count Howard Hughes) in the 60s when Gulf&Western acquired a struggling Paramount and turned it around brilliantly. Kirk Kerkorian bought MGM and did the same. The Bronfmans (Seagrams) also bought Universal a few years later. Money talks. When all the current… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Captain Willard
22 hours ago

Didn’t one of the Seagrams get in trouble with some strange sex/slave cult about a decade ago?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mr. House
9 hours ago

Yes. NXIVM

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Captain Willard
22 hours ago
Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. House
19 hours ago
Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Mycale
18 hours ago

I do want to put in a slight correction in that Netflix only makes money due to accounting gimmicks.

Streaming video content did what streaming audio content did: cheapened the overall product which resulted in a feedback loop where the product itself was made more and more cheaply to, basically, compete with itself.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
17 hours ago

Yep, no rarity. Music, movies, books, games, over saturated and too cheap. They shot themselves in the foot.

Member
23 hours ago

The other part of what is killing Hollywood is that social media and activism has exposed the “movie star” and destroyed their glamorous image.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Pickle Rick
23 hours ago

Especially for those who consider themselves on the Right.
Though I suspect that’s only because most Hollywood stars are lefty theater kids, and we all know that now because they’ve started getting uppity on social media.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Marko
16 hours ago

As long as the Hollyweirdos only spoke through their agents they were fine. Once they got on social media and started talking without anyone telling them what to say everyone could see how stupid and crazy most of them were.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
1 day ago

your overall point is valid, but hollywood is dying because it churns out tons of genuinely bad product. the streaming sites – including netflix – have an insatiable demand for content, and aren’t fussy about how good it is. this lack of concern for quality has infected every studio and production company. oh look another tv series about an independent lady cop who does things her way! another failing of the streaming sites is the narrowness of their offerings. almost exclusively post 2010 productions. the rental stores had a much greater variety of offerings than any streaming site, since the… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  karl von hungus
23 hours ago

Agreed. Movies, for quite sometime, have mostly been woke monstrosities or cartoons designed for children or those with children’s intellect.

Pozymandias
Reply to  george 1
16 hours ago

I’m sure AI will make producing this slop even cheaper and easier than ever. No more need to pay overpriced whores and gayboys to play their cartoonish characters in capeshit movies. Now, with AI, the whole film is CGI, including the script. Pure profit.

On the one hand it means even further concentration of wealth. On the other, all those obnoxious sluts and twinks will be begging on the street to pay their drug dealers.

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  karl von hungus
21 hours ago

57 channels and nothing’s on…

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
21 hours ago

Advertising is on. From the standpoint of the networks, the ideal situation is to have on cheap, addictive, and worthless content to have the rubes glued to the screens, so that they can be bombarded with endless commercials. That’s the business model.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
20 hours ago

It’s more like 257 channels!

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Dutchboy
19 hours ago

Oh gawd -The Boss! 😂👍

U’know when I was a kid guys like him took great delight at flipping the bird at the old establishment and the geriatrics that ran it. And today, he gets the same treatment! Watching Robert De Niro getting laughed at by contemptuous mobs just made my day.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Johnny Ducati
16 hours ago

I was looking for a place to plug in my TV when I finally realized it was World War III – Root Boy Slim

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  karl von hungus
21 hours ago

Among other things, good content usually (always?) has a critical stance (towards politics, towards society, towards human nature). There’s no critical stance in the vapid and saccharine content of today.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Arshad Ali
17 hours ago

A consequence of the “left” achieving dominance. They can’t criticize themselves.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  karl von hungus
20 hours ago
Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
23 hours ago

Another example where the chosen ones chose to shoot themselves in the foot, since much of Hollywood’s problems are downstream from immigration policy.

M. Murcek
Member
22 hours ago

Hollywood was a great conduit for the establishment’s propaganda back in the day. While that was mostly frittered away before the COVID lockdowns, what little was left of its usefulness to The Project was eliminated for good during the lockdowns. Same with the schools. Hilariously, the establishment was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that even after those two propaganda vectors were re-deployed they no longer worked like before, nor could they be rebooted into their erstwhile state of usfulness. Meanwhile, the bulk of the “content consuming public, – ie the lumpen masses – now have the attention span… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  M. Murcek
22 hours ago

This is a very good point. Every post-print media has been heavily regulated in a way to ensure a propaganda monopoly–radio and television, for example, were controlled through licensing and other regulatory requirements. The Supreme Court created a ludicrous fiction that the Founders meant only print to get around the obvious First Amendment (which is a fraud) violations. Films also were controlled, originally through the Motion Pictures Production Code/Legion of Decency, which gave the illusion of free expression regulated via private agreement. After the Jewish takeover of Hollywood and government, monopolies and other anti-free market devices were deployed to regulate… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
22 hours ago

While we are discussing all the business and cultural related reasons for the decline of Hollywood, which do have validity, I tend to believe that the industry would still do ok, in spite of all that, if they made any content worth watching. But in the last 10-15 years (I might even say the last quarter century) that is virtually zero. That’s your real culprit right there. People will watch good content. But where is it?

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
22 hours ago

Here is something to consider:

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/

Ticket sales peaked and box office (adjusted for inflation) right around 2001 and they’ve been treading water ever since and raising prices. More evidence that country overall has been in a depression since.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. House
20 hours ago

The eternal Now, that we’ve been in since the turn of the millenium. Previous decades were culturally identifiable. But since then, it is all the same. I’m not the first person to point this out.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
20 hours ago

the early 2000’s and part of the 2010’s were distinct. Everything went bland by 2016

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Mr. House
20 hours ago

Also, another thing i noticed around that time, more and more actors appearing from the 5eyes. England, Europe, Australia. And a lot of the films were being filmed in Eastern Europe at the time because it was cheap (early 2000’s). I guess regions couldn’t support their own film industries anymore so had to consolidate into globohomo?

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
21 hours ago

It is highly doubtful that even if Hollywood turned out content like it did in its Golden Age that people would return to theaters due to vibrancy, among other things. As someone else pointed out here, even streaming services would continue to struggle due to severely decreased attention spans caused by digital delivery systems. Many very early films were far shorter, an hour or so, but would that be short enough? There probably would be some uptick if the content improved but it would not be enough to revive the industry. I suspect film is about to join Vaudeville on… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jack Dodson
20 hours ago

We were turned away from the theaters a few times in the late 90’s and early 2000’s due to riots. Once on Christmas Day. That didn’t stop us, i’d say they’ve turned people off with their attitudes more so, like modern women 😉

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/youve-lost-that-lovin-feeling-why-are-young-men-giving-up-on-sex.html

We were shrews for a decade, why don’t men want us anymore?

For example, the movie bridesmaids was funny. The theater was packed and everyone was laughing. The Ghostbusters remake bombed, all the same actors, why? Politics……..

HalfTrolling
HalfTrolling
23 hours ago

Good riddance

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
22 hours ago

Another factor killing movie theaters is the wide availability of high quality home video and audio products at reasonable prices.

Sure, the theater screen and sound are objectively better, but not so much so that one is going to put up with ticket prices, expensive crap food, and obnoxious public behavior.

RDittmar
Member
22 hours ago

Another thing about streaming that I find so loathsome is how it’s just another corporate attempt to nickel and dime the consumer at every point of even the simplest transaction. Want to fill your tank with gas? Give us your e-mail. Sign up for rewards. Do you want a membership? Watch this ad to save! Steaming is just all these little retail assaults on your time and wallet writ large. Want to watch a movie? You need a membership. Sign up for premium to get content early. Want to skip ads? Watch this video from our advertiser and pay a… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
23 hours ago

Khaby Lame, with his 162 million TikTok followers, is what global society worships:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tiktoks-most-popular-star-khaby-lame-leaves-us-after-being-detained-ice

Humanity is doomed.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
23 hours ago

Ever since screens became a thing, people have worshipped the people on the screens, whether they were actors in movies, or just lying pieces of shit like Walter Cronkite. You’ll note the difference in status between the screen actor and the stage actor (who cares about the Tonys?). The status of actors was never about acting, it was about the screen. Nowadays folks have found new screen dwellers to worship who are encroaching on the old’s turf. Since after 15 years of smartphonedom they don’t really have the attention span for movies anymore.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
22 hours ago

Humanity is over-rated. Get rid of 95%. Leave the 50% of Whites who are normal and not self-hating leftists (about 5% of the world’s billions). Start over.

ray
ray
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 hours ago

Lame Khaby, lame humanity.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
22 hours ago

“Of course, the dynamics of the American film market is why the studios now look to foreign markets for profit. This means more films high on big flashy effects and low on sensible dialogue and plot.” I don’t know when this started. Was it the martial arts films made in Hong Kong in the ’60s and ’70s? The Bruce Lee films? The Spaghetti Westerns made by Sergio Leone and others, with a cast that largely couldn’t speak English at all? Was it the Alistair MacLean films like The Guns of Navarone? Was it the Star Wars films? Was it the… Read more »

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
20 hours ago

The people who made Hollywood also made the immivasion possible. There is a certain negative symmetry to it.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
22 hours ago

On the one hand, streaming robs from the theaters, especially small local theaters, by removing cheap content they would use to attract daytime audiences in the summer Out of interest, how many here ever have gone to a theater in the daytime? I’m older than most commenters but I can’t recall the last time because it was so long, long ago–70’s-ish, I think. Soon enough, if not now, the question will be, “have you ever watched a film in a theater?” A few years back a popular stat was something like two-thirds of younger people had never eaten at McDonald’s… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  thezman
22 hours ago

I had forgotten the AC aspect (I’m a native Southerner, too).

You also are older than many if not most commenters here, though. Maybe I should refine the question to “how many here under 40 ever have been to a movie in the daytime?” I suspect, maybe wrongly, it is basically non-existent.

Ronald
Ronald
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
18 hours ago

Legend of Boggy Creek

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  thezman
20 hours ago

when i was a kid the theaters would have a kids’ matinee movie (on saturday), and only kids would be in the audience. it was pretty wild 🙂

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  karl von hungus
20 hours ago

Our local theater showed serials from the 50s on Saturdays (The Lone Ranger, Batman, Hopalong Cassidy, etc.) and the place was packed with screaming boys. Admission was a certain number of RC Cola bottle caps. Eventually, it became a porno theater and then went out of business.

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  thezman
15 hours ago

In the early Sixties my brother and I used to go to the matinee to watch Ray Harryhausen movies like Jason and the Argonauts.

Or westerns. To this day I can’t shake the belief that the Old West smelled like popcorn and musty upholstery.

I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

In 1982/1983 I was living “The Vanlife” in Pensacola, Florida. That van was my home, and I played in a country bar band at night. During the weekdays I spent all day at the public library, plus visits to the gym. Sundays presented a problem: all my usual daytime hangouts were closed. This presented a problem in summer, as the heat was unbearable. Fortunately, a local movie theater charged only fifty cents for their daytime matinee, and although I had to watch Albert Finney sleepwalk through “Looker” “Wolfen” and “Blame It On Rio”, at least I got to enjoy cool,… Read more »

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Jack Dodson
20 hours ago

I “do The Cinema” maybe three or four times a year; nearly always matinee shows. My most recent was for last year’s Nosferatu reboot (December 2024?) The film was pretty good, incidentally, although I still prefer W. Hertzog’s take.

(5 8 y.o. Caucasian Male)

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  rasqball
20 hours ago

Thanks. I strongly suspect you are an outlier, though.

eta: The Nosferatu reboot looks interesting.

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rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Jack Dodson
16 hours ago

It was…and if you’re like me, you’ll be eyeing the lead actress and thinking “who does she look like?”
“Play hooky from work, and go to the movies.”

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 hours ago

The Nosferatu reboot looks interesting.

It furthered my suspicion that Robert Eggers literally sold his soul for critical acclaim.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 hours ago

Out of interest, how many here ever have gone to a theater in the daytime?

I’ve done it pretty frequently. Most recently to see the CGI Super Mario movie (my little sister wanted to see it).

TomA
TomA
23 hours ago

In case anyone is interested in recommendations for recent releases that still have the feel of old school Americana, i have two suggestions that I very much enjoyed. The first is “The bikeriders” with Tom Hardy, and the second is “Desperation Road” with Mel Gibson in a secondary role. Both include new acting talent that actually act and no special effects.

Grant
Grant
23 hours ago

I always scratched my head at Amazon original content. You got access to all of their shows for free with your prime subscription. Access to Amazon media was not a compelling reason to get prime. 2-day delivery was. It seemed like they were giving things away for free. Now they have commercials on Prime, so I guess they are finding a way to make money. The Expanse and the awful Rings of Power were vanity projects for Bezos since he supposedly liked the source material. Streaming services also never release numbers for who’s watching what, so outlandish claims about the… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Grant
22 hours ago

Also Valve is dealing with a competitor who built a “streaming” service and has devalued their games in the same way that the studios did. It seems like mostly the rest of the industry is not taking the bait, although it’s certainly hurt itself in other areas. The generational turnover is going to be interesting. Hollywood has spent the past decade catering to aging Millennials and older and just assuming Zoomers would hop on board… but they haven’t. Zoomers don’t care about Soy Wars or the diverse new Scream or whatever. But they did turn out in droves for Minecraft.… Read more »

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Hemid
Hemid
22 hours ago

True “long tail” underground word-of-mouth, the kind that made it so everybody loves The Thing now, was killed by fake reviews. Forums and comments were shut down, moderated into submission, strategically flooded with bots (and Indians pretending to be bots). Rating sites were rigged to hide audience hatred for corporate slop. The enthusiast press was destroyed so corporate messaging wouldn’t be contradicted. Dudes talking on the internet is the greatest threat to the system, says the system, and it works tirelessly to thwart us. One of dudes’ favorite conversational bonding rituals is movie recommendations. All our “cult classics” and “overlooked… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Hemid
20 hours ago

The Thing didn’t do well initially for many reasons. One is being released in the middle of an upbeat summer season versus Spielberg’s warm and fuzzy ET.

Another is that the year 1982 was the very beginning of peak 80s when Reagan was beginning to turn things around and pop culture was beginning to shake off the cynicism of the 70s. The zeitgeist simply wasn’t there to support a bleak film with one of the all-time great hanger endings.
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Fred Beans
Fred Beans
22 hours ago

To the extent losses from the crapola Hollywood keeps churning out offsets profits from their other divisions may keep the woke from going broke for longer than we would expect. Plus the contractors that supply services to Hollywood, I doubt they’re operating at a loss, must be a lot of cronyism going on there, just like with government contractors.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Fred Beans
20 hours ago

There was a time when I would have been astonished to learn that fedloldollars were going direct to Hollywood to prop it up. But now I only wonder about the number

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
20 hours ago

Any film that is remotely positive about the US military has received significant Pentagon backing.

Exhibit A would be Top Gun, which
created a positive feedback loop that improved military recruiting numbers.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
7 hours ago

And why not? I certainly wouldn’t provide hardware, personnel and technical advisors to films that were going to make my organization look bad (if I were in charge of an organization).

Whiskey
17 hours ago

FYI, Sanders and Angus King are introducing legislation to ban drug ads from all media: TV, radio, streaming, print, digital. If that happens both streamers and Cable and OTA networks die quickly. Drug ads are at least 13% of all advertising spending on “linear” (i.e. non streaming) on TV. RFK Jr. wants to ban them, and it would hurt all the networks going in on Orange Man Bad. One other thing of note. TV traditionally had both pilot season (from Jan to April) where hundreds of scripts would be winnowed to about 30 pilots, of which only 10 would go… Read more »

Scipio
Scipio
18 hours ago

Contemporary movies and TV drama shows are set up to break the cardinal rule of good/great storytelling – they “tell” rather than “show”. Watch for 5 minutes and you know how the story end. And why tolerate a monologue lecture featuring whipsmart girlbosses taking charge and explaining everything, cut-off-and-served-by-the-yard scripts and ridiculous CGI?

Mike Tre
Mike Tre
12 hours ago

Movie theaters are now playgrounds for feral negro children, and nurseries for crying mestizo babies. I don’t care what movie is playing, I’m not paying $100 bucks to sit through a live action chimp out.

Whiskey
17 hours ago

Somewhat OT, Alex Padilla got himself arrested by rushing Kristi Noem during her LA press conference. This is wild. First, Padilla was dressed like casual Friday. Not as a distinguished Senator. Second, its Alex Padilla. He was known for being invisible. He’d been absent from the Senate all week, and now he pulls this stunt. I had completely forgotten he was a Senator, compared to Camera Hog Adam Schiff, Pencil Neck Geek (tm Classy Freddie Blassie) this guy might as well be the invisble man. My guess is this guy saw all the adulatory press that Newsom and Bass were… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
17 hours ago

and whaddya know, Kristi had her ballcap on

Ketchup-stained Griller
Ketchup-stained Griller
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
15 hours ago

Mattel could make an easy 100 mil if they would put out an Ice Barbie.

Zfan
Zfan
17 hours ago

I’ll be off topic. Among my many part time jobs when I was young were selling tickets and working in a concession stand in high school — making popcorn and cleaning the machine was a greasy mess. I got a part time job in Italy later as the projectionist by leveraging having figured out how school film projectors worked when we had a particularly clueless substitute teacher who couldn’t. Anyway, I got to see movies for free. We had kid matinees there too which were pretty amusing. The biggest difference from the US was that smoking was allowed. I didn’t… Read more »

Brandon Johnson's Hair
Brandon Johnson's Hair
Reply to  Zfan
15 hours ago

I used to patronize the book stores when moved to LA for a defense industry job. I was once drawn into a vigorous literary discussion with Brian Dennehy and John Larroquette. I eas always bumping into celebs, and it was fun at.the time.

Whiskey
18 hours ago

There was a blog, I forgot who ran it, back in the mid 2000s that argued that the main problem with Hollywood was lack of ownership. That it was not just the money (though that mattered) but the ownership. That the managerialism that infects Hollywood (Disney CEO Bob Iger owns only a few million in Disney stock and options as does the board) makes them not “owners” determined to create both wealth and a legacy, but short-termers looking to maximize their hard-left social network. No one in Hollywood cares about money, just getting paid. In that if a project loses… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
19 hours ago

The reason the people of Hollywood, (and porn and vice themed gaming) are in trouble, and they are in serious trouble, is they have always detached themselves from the society in which they live. They want all the benefits of the host, including to run the entire thing, but to remain forever separate from it. Alas, the organism that behaves this way in nature is well understood. However, the highest IQs in the world cannot by self-awareness and introspection. This is particularly true of psychopaths who must maintain a strong self delusion of moral superiority and self righteousness in order… Read more »

Chris
Chris
19 hours ago

Interesting timing of this essay. A friend of mine was telling me yesterday that they are re-releasing older movies back into the theater for limited engagements.

http://fathomevents.com/

Hokkoda
Member
12 hours ago

“for get-togethers with friends to have a good time laughing at a bad film” For my family, this is a Friday night movie night category as we decide what to watch over pizza. Comedy, bang-bang, unrelatable indie, and mockable. Our entire voyage through the Rebel Moon movies set sail on the premise of them being hilariously bad and very predictable. And man were we right! Those are very mock worthy garbage and we looked forward as a family to the next release because the watch parties were a lot of fun. Social cohesion isn’t coming back until every corporate executive… Read more »

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Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
23 hours ago

In the old days, going to the theater for many people was like going to church

jeepers, you know your cultures in trouble when the good ol days was when Jewish Hollywood replaced church

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Hi-ya!
23 hours ago

he didn’t say the movies replaced going to church.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  thezman
20 hours ago

Movies Saturday, church Sunday!