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Kevin Michael Grace contacted me a while back about doing a segment for his podcast, Grace & Steel. He and his partner, Kevin Steel, do a weekly podcast where they will often interview someone for an hour or two. I’m a listener to their program, so I was flattered and agree to do it. I’m also a believer in the adage, “support the media that supports you.” One way to help to turn the tide in this fight, is for our team to universally no-platform the media of the bad guys. I may be a bit player, but I can do my part.

Anyway, another reason for agreeing to do this was that I have been thinking about doing a podcast, but I was unclear about what was involved. Frankly, I was not sure I could talk coherently for 30 minutes or more. Listen to a podcast and they cruise along effortlessly for a full show and it always feels like they could do so much more. On the other hand, you can stand in front of a crowd, giving a speech and five minutes feels like five hours. I was not sure if I could actually talk about enough things to fill a podcast.

What I learned is a good interviewer can keep you talking for as long as he likes and Kevin is a good interviewer. The real challenge, besides the content, is the technical aspects. In order to not sound like you are in a well or a steamer trunk, you need some equipment and software. Cheap equipment and cheap software means the audio sounds weird. It’s also why many video podcasts look like hostage videos. The sound is bad and the people are looking at their screen instead of the camera.

In my case, I relied on the microphone in the laptop, which probably costs fifty cents for the Chinese manufacturer. The result was a I sounded a little muffled and nasally. I think if I was going to try my hand at this, I’d want to invest in the proper equipment. I don’t know this for certain, but my guess is there is a lot more to it than just the microphone. I just got a taste of what is involved to do it properly. The big shot podcasters who actually make a living at it probably have studio quality gear and know how to use it.

In order to do a first rate podcast, you need to invest in a high quality microphone and you need to learn how to use software to mix, edit and touch up the final product. Grace & Steel uses a method where I recorded my end of the conversation and Kevin recorded his end. After it was over, the other Kevin mixed the two, filtering out the bad parts and strange noises. That’s the other thing I learned. There is a lot of work involved in producing these things, if you want to do it right.

As far as the interview, it was more of a conversation and we could have gone on for hours. Kevin is an interesting guy with a lot of time in the ideological trenches. He has read and interviewed the big shots in conservative media so he knows the terrain. One of the many knowledge gaps between those inside conventional politics and those outside, is that the people outside know there is a rich and dynamic world outside conventional politics. The people in the bubble don’t know what they don’t know.

Anyway, here is the final product. Enjoy.

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Wilbur Hassenfus
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I know somebody who was doing YouTube vids with one of these and it sounded surprisingly good:

Samson Go Mic Portable USB Condenser Microphone, Titanium Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NQVX95I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qU29yb3QFKZ2W

When he said he was going to make videos I hilariously offered to lend him my old SM57. “Thanks, great grandpa! What’s that connector, some funny kinda stone age USB?”

Gaiseric
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If you’re going to actually be on screen, you need lighting too. I really like Brittany Pettibone and Tara McCarthy’s podcasts where they interview various Right wing and alt-Right figures, but they look like they’re filming it in a closet.

Member
My fastest 90 minutes in the last few years. Thank you for doing it. I could comment on a lot, as the discussion was wide-rangeing and terrific. I choose the ghetto, of which I have some experience. Here is a passage from my novella, Breathe in Grace: Eva lives in East Tremont, which is, I feel safe in saying, one of the worst neighborhoods in the country. It’s all five and six story tenements, no trees, garbage in the streets, with gangbangers, drugs, and fear everywhere. The last time I was at her apartment, there were two black kids taking… Read more »
Member

It was interesting to hear your voice. Not exactly what I was expecting, but not incongruous, either.

I’ve given a couple of interviews on podcasts (and once for a television show). Never listened to them myself. Can’t stand the sound of my own voice.

Speaking of which, the somewhat lugubrious delivery of the interviewer kept reminding me of someone, but I couldn’t quite place it. But then it dawned on me. He sounds a bit like Studs Terkel!

George Orwell
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My only criticism is the interview wasn’t three hours instead of 90 minutes!

Chazz
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Z, I found your voice, pace of speaking, and not surprisingly, your vocabulary, to be excellent. Kevin, however, could stand to speed things up a bit. The drawn out and pedantic questions compelled me to say goodby after about 50 minutes.

Member
Agree Chazz.. Good grief, could Kevin be any more NPR-ish in his speaking diction? Slow, thoughtful questions… seemingly deep, but pedantic really ( like Chazz said!). ( Charlie Rose comes to mind too.) I’m not going to hate on him after just one listen… The pacing was a slog for this Texan. heh. Z, enjoyed getting to hear you and especially your insight on writing and commenters! .. and I wish you well with your endeavor to persevere.. (and the podcast). Wish you the best. ( and no disrespect to you Kevin if you read this! )
originalguest
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Also on YouTube: Grace & Steel Ep. 78 – Talking with the Z Blogger

Or direct MP3 link and the show notes with links to everything mentioned.

Rabbi High Comma
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Great job Z. I hope you follow through and decide to publish your own podcast. I will definitely be a listener. I learn a lot from you.

Q: Why do the neocons insist on the “invite” portion of the “Invade the world, invite the world”?

A: They hate Whites more than their Semitic cousins, and see us as their biggest foe. It’s the only way to balance that perplexing equation. No one holds a grudge like the tribe.

originalguest
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His first guest could be James LaFond, who is also from Bodymore!

Having a familiar topic to talk about is good to ease into the pod’ craft.

PorgusJones
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Audio podcasting advice:

https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/11/a-podcast-studio-for-under-100/
https://sixcolors.com/topic/podcasting/

I’ve set mine for a little more than $100 (not including computer, of course).

RT Rider
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I particularly appreciated your discussion of financialization’s impact on society. The enormous impact of a pure fiat monetary regime on our economy and culture since 1971 is seldom discussed in depth, maybe because it’s a hard concept for many to grasp. But there is no question that it has enabled the state and it’s handmaidens to do enormous damage to our society over the past four decades.

Dave
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Great conversation always goes by too quickly. You two could have easily continued for another hour at least.
As a current resident of NYC for 30 years and formerly of Rochester, New York, your perceptions of and experiences with the black community resonate with my own almost completely.
Despite what most folks in the rest of the country may believe, I have encountered more honest race realism from average New Yorkers, including blacks, than any other part of the country, by far.

Member

Dave… Can you explain the phrase”honest race realism”?

Dave
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It seems self explanatory…and I’m not being snarky. Honest as in uncensored opinion, and race realism is the understanding that group differences exist and many stereotypes about various ethnic groups have a basis in reality. I’ve worked, and socialized, with a lot of working class black people in NYC, and once they’re comfortable with me, they let their true feelings about other black people fly. And don’t get me started about what Dominicans and Puerto Ricans think about blacks.If you want to hear some “hate speech”, spend 8 hours a day with a crew of Domincans and PR’s. Let’s just… Read more »
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ZMan – I thought you did a great job. I appreciate it was Kevin’s show, but it did get annoying how he would ask you a great question, let you talk for 30 seconds and then pop off about something that may or may not have been germane to the story you were telling. You did a nice job staying on track and moving from one subject to the next. I think it would be interesting to hear you do some of your own podcasts. I’d be far more interested in hearing you develop your thoughts, and ramble as you… Read more »
guest
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Speaking of soldiers & letters, it reminded me of the civil war letters (youtube) standup routine by the late (OD) comedian Greg Giraldo, it makes your point: “Let’s face it, our reading and writing skills in our country…every day there’s a story in the paper about how shitty our schools are. They just keep getting worse, all the time. I read a book, it was filled with letters that soldiers in the Civil War had written to their girlfriends back home. Most of these guys had never even been to school, but every single letter in the book was incredible.… Read more »
Tim
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I listened to the whole 90 minutes and enjoyed it. But, that’s a big chunk of time and I don’t see myself doing it regularly. Thirty minutes would be more my speed….but then I don’t listen to podcasts and people who do might want the longer format. You mentioned growing up in poverty. Do you think that accounts for a good part of your realism? Most of the top reporters at the Times for example, come direct from the upper middle class and the Ivy League. Explains a lot. Enjoyed particularly what you had to say about cheap finance money… Read more »
onezeno
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You should most certainly do a podcast. Not many people have plenty to talk about as well as a good voice for radio. The interviewer did a good job of keeping the conversation moving but he interrupts far too much.

Tim
Guest

If you’re really interested try this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/podcasting/wiki/index
I’m just getting started, myself. I’m using a Blue Yeti microphone and so far it sounds pretty good. Good luck!

Member
Great show, but I have to take minor exception about the comments about IQ. In this recent story about a study that came to the conclusion that as a whole the oldest child in the family on average has a higher IQ than his younger siblings, the study speculates that this is because the mother tends to be more involved with the first born. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/21/science/21cnd-sibling.html Both you and the interviewer stated that you came from lower middle class and poor backgrounds. I would bet that if any of your elders were tested, they wouldn’t rate so high on the IQ… Read more »
Kudzu Bob
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With regard to IQ, environment matters, but genetics matters at least as much, perhaps more. Dozens of twin studies prove this.

Unfortunately, our current social and political setup operates on the assumption that environment is everything and that heredity doesn’t matter.

It is hardly surprising, by the way, that someone who performs well on standardized tests–which is just your long-winded way of saying “smart”–would be easily bored.

Member

I’ll tell you what. I was a bright kid and had a freakish memory (I emphasize the word “had”). Then I finished my edufication and got out into the real world and met people who are off the charts intelligent. I not only don’t feel so smart anymore, I realize there are other qualities that are just as, if not more important. Qualities such as persistence and that leadership intangible that people like Trump have to push things through and get things done.

Kudzu Bob
Guest

Your feelings and anecdotes are irrelevant. On average, smart people make more money. On average, smart people go to jail less. On average, smart people are less likely to get divorced. On average, smart people even live longer. High IQ correlates across the board with good outcomes. Anyone who is reasonably familiar with the subject understands this.

Ganderson
Guest

Listened (and enjoyed) as I was driving across Michigan and Indiana. I like Grace’s style- it sounded more like conversation. As for a podcast idea- perhaps a round table with some of the more erudite commenters?

Member

I enjoyed your comments about the job interview where you were asked whether you had ever been fired or been in a fight.

In the civilian commercial world, my bosses would talk a lot about the times they’d gotten fired or run a company into the ground. In government work, they spend a lot of time talking about their “successes.”

Member

I also liked the crack about how so many of these uberlibertarians rely on government largesse for their living. Let them try dog-eat-dog for a little bit and then let’s come back and talk.

RW in NoVA
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I listened to this after lunch; don’t tell my boss. I expected more reverb on your voice, or maybe some of that vocoder processing to give you that just-came-down-off-the-mountain tone. Actually, your voice sounded very familiar for some reason. After reading your blog every day for a coupla years it was interesting to hear you conversing out loud. But in my view Kevin interrupted you way too much. Maybe it was supposed to be a conversation and not an interview, but I was more interested in what you had to say. It also seemed that he was trying a little… Read more »
Audacious Epigone
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Tremendous job, Z-man. I hope you take the opportunity to be interviewed with some regularity in the future. Grace spoke roughly half the words said, which for my tastes is way too much for an interviewer, and he interrupted you to ask a lot of orthogonal questions when you had only been setting the stage for an involved answer. It’s a weird sort of rapid fire questioning that drags on for the duration of a feature-length film. That’s their style, though, and some people prefer it. Speaking of, for those expressing frustration with the length, try listening at 1.5x speed… Read more »
Dan Kurt
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re: “1.5x speed”

Apple’s Podcast technology also supports 2x speed. It took me a while but eventually 2x clicks in. I use it in my car driving ( Audi interface to iPhone ) and walking ( iPhone ). Hope the Z-man publishes on iTunes.

I also was turned off by Grace cutting the Z-man off repeatedly

Dan Kurt

LS
Guest

Am glad you are expanding your media presence.
Will check it out.

Kudzu Bob
Guest

I look forward to listening to this. I like your blog a great deal, and the podcast that Kevin Michael Grace and Kevin Steel put out is by far the best of its kind on the Alt-Right.

George Orwell
Guest

I must confess, hearing George Will and K. D. Williamson labeled as “gold-plated phonies” warmed the confines of my little black heart.

Ishmael
Guest

Great podcast, I found this site while reading James Lafonds, find it entertaining that my two favorite news reports of the day, plus articles for thought, live in Baltimore. Thanks for the effort, Ishmael.

Tim
Guest

Speaking of tip jars, I hit Steve Sailer’s once a year for fifty bucks. He’s more than worth it, and worth supporting. I’ll bet there are a lot of people here who would feel the same way about your blog. Tim

Member

More power to people like you, but if I gave $50 to every blog I enjoyed, the wife would kill me. That’s where advertising comes in. Tasteful ads are fine in my book. I would disable the adblocker for those. But disgusting, low class ads like you see on Gateway Pundit, I have no guilt in blocking.

sirlancelot
Guest
Was interesting to hear your voice. Was expecting more John Wayne perhaps :-). Have to agree with another poster listening to your conversation did seem a little NPR-ish. What made it stranger still was the two of you trying to establish “street cred “. Just sounded funny. Two intellectuals going back and forth about the ghetto. While I won’t compare Boston ( which doesn’t seem to be one of your favorite places ) to bigger cities like Baltimore, living on welfare and growing up in the housing project has a universal misery. Most blacks I meet immediately dismiss me as… Read more »
Member

I was the first born, my parents starting out, living in the poor part of town, watching every dime. I always felt poor because of that. I was talking about this once with my brother and he laughed at me and said we were middle class. I guess it all depends on timing and perspective. Things got less tight by the time he was old enough to notice. But part of me still feels poor to this day. and I’m in my early 50’s.

james wilson
Guest

Great to hear the voice that pushes the pencil. I would, in this case, have preferred an interview to a conversation, but it’s his show. Grace gave off the vibe of needing to demonstrate he belonged in your company.

guest
Guest
Before you buy any equipment, Adam Curry from the No Agenda podcast (and inventor of podcasting), will soon (may 1st) launch a kickstarter for an “USB audio device, no bigger than a book, is the first device specifically made to optimize human voice recording for podcasting.” And that guy is very anal when it comes to audio, No Agenda is probably the best sounding podcast out there, second to being the best podcast of the multiverse. He also recently made a No Agenda Episode 903-See The Sausage Being Made video, recording his desktop during the show, where you see how… Read more »
guest
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Also worth pointing out is the No Agenda ShowNotes Archive. Where they archive EVERY article or clip played on the show. And No Agenda shownote search, to find stuff in that archive. This is unparalleled in the podcasting world, talk about thorough! Something i learned from the last show was that during WW1: “Up to 20k newspaper columns a week were drawn from government CPI releases, Woodrow Wilson, the great Democrat, wanted strict censorship, while George Creel said this would be a great mistake, what we have to do instead, is supply all of the news, everything anybody hears about… Read more »
LSWCHP
Guest

Fascinating stuff, and interesting to hear your voice.

The interviewer would certainly benefit by speeding up his ponderous delivery. And more than that, he should learn to listen respectfully. He constantly cut you off and talked over the top of you.

Boone Waxwell
Guest

Absolutely loved the conversation Zman and i hate everything. Can’t wait to hear more.

Saml Adams
Guest

Friend of mine is one of the “voices”…there are about a half dozen of them that are the ones you hear on movie trailers, commercials (he was “America Runs on Duncan” among other things and did a mean set of Simpsons voices). His trick when on the road and needed to record a quick spot? Take a standard roller bag suitcase, empty it, put it on the hotel room desk on top of a doubled over towel with the microphone inside. Said it worked as well as his 100k home recording studio.

Gary
Guest

The podcast was very easy listening. I had it playing last night while working late. The dose of sanity is encouraging for those times when I wonder if it’s even worth bothering with the extra work. In a way similar to your blog posts, your manner of speaking is clear and to-the-point. Get that tip jar up, “it’s only fair”.

LS
Guest

I enjoyed this podcast.

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