Days Of Estrogen Fueled Rage

Like most normal men, I’m enjoying the hell out of seeing the girls go crazy, accusing every liberal man in sight of being a predator. When it comes to the media, I’m firmly in the camp that says, “burn, baby, burn.”  When it comes to cretins like Al Franken and John Conyers, well, there is no torment that would be too monstrous for them. Of course, the Hollywood stuff is manna from heaven. The only thing that would make it better is if they actually start burning men at the stake in the Hollywood hills. That would be awesome.

As others have been enthusiastic to point out, this is almost exclusively a Progressive problem. The men being hauled off to pervert’s island are mostly the male feminist types, who used to delight in accusing normal men of bad behavior. The Fox News scandal that kicked this off is the notable exception, but that’s beginning to look like a special case as the great panic rolls forward. I’ll get back to this in a minute, but I think the Fox stuff fits into all of this, as does the Roy Moore hoax. It’s all part of the larger pattern.

As far as the dominant side of this, liberal career women accusing liberal men of playing grab ass in the workplace, the one thing that jumps out so far is that no black men have been accused. In fact, no black women are at the center of these things either. This whole thing is white women versus white men. If what the Left tells us about the plight of black folks was true, we would see a lot of black women coming forward, claiming to be this era’s Sally Hemings. It turns out that liberal men are just not down with the swirl.

Of course, the “white” men getting jammed up are almost all Jewish men. Thanks to Seinfeld, the goyim know something about the shiksa fetish, but now the world is learning that Jewish men have lots of strange appetites. I’ve had a few Jewish men point this out to me whenever these stories come up in conversation. As the Larry David kerfuffle revealed, this is something known to Jews. It does explain the strange fact that the pornography industry was dominated by Jewish men who looked like The Hedgehog.

This raises an interesting possibility. Maybe this is well-plowed land, but many of the famous second wave feminists were Jewish. Modern gender studies are also heavy on the Jewish gals. Perhaps the root of feminism is Jewish women demanding better treatment from their Jewish men. After all, the description of the patriarchy by feminists sounds a lot like the HR department at a typical media company. Maybe feminism all along has been a primal scream for Irv to stop whacking off into the shrubbery.

Anyway, the charges against conservatives in this are worth considering. They are unique in that they are vague and non-specific, while the charges against liberal men are pretty clear and often pretty weird. One of the things that got Bill O’Reilly canned was that he called a black woman “hot chocolate.” That’s pretty tame compared to installing a button in your office to lock the door, so you can trap women. The Roy Moore claims have fallen apart, as most were obviously fake and the rest are impossible to substantiate.

What this looks like is the Left set out to accuse their rivals of the things popular on the Left. All of these Prog-men being jammed up by the girls were happy to accuse Trump of being bad for women. Meanwhile, guys like Matt Lauer were planning to build a sex dungeon at 30 Rock. Al Franken was entertaining his buddies with stories about how he wanted to drug and rape Leslie Stahl. The Opposite Rule of Liberalism says that whatever Lefty is hooting about, you can be sure he is the guiltiest.

Of course, these estrogen fueled rages tend to indicate the death of a business or industry. The fact is, conventional mass media is an old person habit. The actuarial tables say that most of what we have come to describe as mass media is headed for the dustbin of history. Young people don’t watch any of this stuff. Even not-so-young people have unplugged from television. The smart money is leaving old media and heading for the new platforms. That means the girls are free to feed on the carcass of legacy media.

Another angle to this is that the Prog women are directing their anger over the election to the only target available to them – their men. We are a year into the Trumpening and it is clear to even the most deranged Hillary supporter that there will be no do-over. Trump will be President and there’s nothing to be done about it. I don’t think sane people fully appreciate how traumatic it was for the feminists to see everything they believe invalidated in one night. They’ll never recover, but for now they lash out at their men.

Of course, all of this validates something normal men have known for a long time and that is “career women” are a cancer on society. Women should only work outside the home out of extreme necessity or as a hobby, maybe to save for a nice dress or better sandwich making implements for the kitchen. Men and women evolved for different roles in human societies. Putting girls into roles better suited for men is always going to end in tears, usually for the women, but also for society as a whole. Feminism is lunacy.

In a way though, this panic will be good for women and for men. If you are a man, you now know you can easily be victimized by a gold digger at the office. Even innocent flirting, outside of work in a social setting, can get you fired. That means men will stop socializing with women at work. They will no longer put themselves in a position to be accused by the harpy down the hall. This is already happening in college, where males have a buddy bear witness to their private time with the girl down the hall. Mike Pence is the model now.

This new awareness by men, particularly successful men, will create a real glass ceiling as well as glass walls and a kitted-out glass basement, where the bros can be themselves without getting jammed up by the gals. Men in the workplace will respond to this threat by walling themselves off from the female staff. Sure, there will be dummies who can’t control themselves, but they will be fed to the lionesses and serve as a reminder to the other men that it is bad business to have anything by token dealings with professional women.

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Frank
Frank
6 years ago

You made me burst out laughing on this one with the sandwich making comment. I am sixty years old and have been doing government work for the last 17 years. Fortunately, my radar for dangerous women in the workplace has been pretty good, but, I stopped socializing with woman at work 40 years ago. A few years back, I had a female employee, who was a known problem, dropped on me, with the mission of fixing her or firing her. Immediately after my initial meeting with her to set objectives, she went straight to HR and claimed that I had… Read more »

Spherical_Cube
Member
Reply to  Frank
6 years ago

I know I wouldn’t hire a woman who wasn’t family. I don’t care what the discrimination rules are, there’s a million bullshit excuses you can give for turning someone down.

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  Spherical_Cube
6 years ago

I run a medium-sized electrical contracting company here in sunny Chicagoland and I have built the near- perfect business mousetrap. No females. Not even a receptionist. The whole office now, and the whole field staff, even my drivers, are hale, hearty, well-adjusted pink-colored dudes. We’ve been through the crazy. Fuck the crazy. I even had one Mestizo with me for 26 years, but he started cheating on his Mrs. and lost his shit, he then defrauded us, lost us a shit-ton of dough through malfeasance, and even stole our office furniture after I pushed him out the door. A painful… Read more »

PRCD
PRCD
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

Stories like this make me repent of getting an engineering degree. Tech seems filled to the brim with effeminate men, butch women, and everything in between. There’s never-ending whining about dieversity. Meanwhile, my friends in the trades post pinup girls in the outhouses and make politically incorrect jokes all day. Sometimes, they even get into fist fights. Sounds like freaking heaven to me. IDK if I should/could start over as a journeyman at this point though. Still, I’m not sure how much more electronic junk society needs (my guess is zero), so maybe I should get onto something useful.

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  PRCD
6 years ago

I’m an engineer myself, but I made the decision years ago to go to “the Dark Side:…contracting.

I’m so glad I’m not sitting in a Dilbert cube farm at a consulting firm!

PRCD…come to the Dark Side!

PRCD
PRCD
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

I think I’d have to move to a low COL/red state first.

I’m < 40.

I think I'm interested in leveraging my skillset because it does pay well but somewhere rural. I'd like to start a small business where I could hire my sons and local kids, I just don't know what it should be.

ZMAN,
Do you have any way of putting us in contact with one-another: me, the lineman, and the electrician?

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  PRCD
6 years ago

My email is lineman19@gmail.com Brother if you want to contact me…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  PRCD
6 years ago

How old are you Brother we have guys as old as in their 50s coming through as apprentice’s most don’t make it but some do so there is always a chance all depends on how bad you want it…

Mountain Cracker
Mountain Cracker
Reply to  PRCD
6 years ago

And the kicker is the tradesman can make as much or significantly more than we “professional” engineers!

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Mountain Cracker
6 years ago

Some guys in my line of work are making close to half of a million a year…I only cleared 250k because I like my time off to much;)

Member
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

Bros before hos.

Vektor
Vektor
Reply to  Frank
6 years ago

I see a boom in personal body cameras and/or personal drones that hover and film everything. Fakebook addicts will use it to post more worthless mundane details about their day. Men will use it to guard their freedom.

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  Vektor
6 years ago

I’m planning on posting pictures of everything I eat on Faceberg for the next month! That’s entertainment!

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Ganderson
6 years ago

Get off my lawn!

You damned Millennial!

Din C. Nufin
Din C. Nufin
Reply to  Frank
6 years ago

Sandwich making? Many of the comments on this piece (and perhaps Zman himself) sound like beta males who expect a woman to say “Men only want two things. If he doesn’t have an erection, make him a sandwich”. If a woman says “If he doesn’t have an erection, he can make his own damn sandwich” it scares hell out of them.

Member
Reply to  Din C. Nufin
6 years ago

You can do better

Or can you?

Arthur
Arthur
Reply to  Frank
6 years ago

A friend who owns a small consulting biz is expanding, and found it unavoidable to hire females – there just weren’t enough qualified males. Their new quarters include 2 new conference rooms – one large, one small – both of which are glass walled on 2 sides, positioned on heavily-trafficked hallways and in full view of security cameras. He will not meet with any employee anywhere but in one of those conference rooms.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Arthur
6 years ago

Glass wall “fishbowl” conference rooms have become popular in recent years. The newest fashion is open seating and adjustable height tables instead of traditional desks. Sigh.

Tim Newman
6 years ago

I’ve written about this a few times over at my place, but I think the direction of travel is that smart, ambitious men will form their own companies with 2-3 of their mates doing useful stuff, and feed off the carcasses of lumbering corporations stuffed full of feminist power-skirts and beta men. Why on earth would a smart, ambitious young man want to join a large organisation these days?

Spherical_Cube
Member
Reply to  Tim Newman
6 years ago

Big companies are already risk averse, feminism is going to make sure that none of them take any risk no matter how small ever again. Boxes full of stagnation and gossiping and busywork.

PRCD
PRCD
Reply to  Spherical_Cube
6 years ago

And offshoring! Oh, the offshoring! Modern corporate culture has become so laced with feminine dialect and feeling as to make male conversation impossible.

Brigadon
Brigadon
Member
Reply to  PRCD
6 years ago

If they aren’t bitching about how they ‘feel’, they are telling y ou what you are supposed to.

Member
Reply to  Brigadon
6 years ago

Tell me about it. At one of my “peer conferences” girl coworker came out and so and so should have apologized for being curt the other day. My response was “oh, I didn’t notice, but I understand.” And girl coworker #2 said “you’re a guy, and her curt response is a girl thing that ‘we’ noticed, and she should not have treated you like that.” But I’m thinking to myself ” bitches are gonna bitch.

Rod1963
Rod1963
6 years ago

when I worked for the USAF flight test program, it was almost all male in the 1980’s by the 90’s women had wormed their way into all male shops and caused nothing but problems. Men learned real fast to keep their distance from them. On the military side it was sheer hell for the senior officers. When they talked to women in their office, they always had a witness there as well. And the door was always kept open. Junior officers were stuck in quad cubes with other workers so when they talked to female enlisted there were always people… Read more »

Bunny
Bunny
Reply to  Rod1963
6 years ago

Working stiffs should apply the received wisdom, e.g. Potiphar’s wife in the Bible or, as my father-in-law used to say, “don’t sh*t in your mess kit.” Old, old story.

Member
Reply to  Rod1963
6 years ago

I did a short stint as the XO in an AF medical group. The medical side is borderline insane in many areas and disciplines. We had an O5 there who I nicknamed “Eve” (The Three Faces of Eve). She would be borderline lovey-dovey one minute (in a creepy way, because she wasn’t attractive). But then, she’d switch and go full Mommie Dearest without warning. Other times, she looked like she was on serious drugs. Scariest woman I ever met in uniform. When I got back from Turkey (honeymoon), I handed out Medusa’s Eye talismans to all of the staff. I… Read more »

Tax Slave
Reply to  hokkoda
6 years ago

Awesome!

Zebulon Butler
Zebulon Butler
6 years ago

I might be wading into tin foil hat territory but it occurs to me that all this sex scandal business is a clever way to soften our society up to adopt one of the tenets of Sharia law. As Z-man notes, the sexes are already seperating from each other in social, academic, and business settings. This would be in keeping with Islam. Nowadays nothing is as it appears to be and the Progs are masters of advancing their agenda in subtle and sneaky ways. It bears watching.

Hypercacher
Hypercacher
Reply to  Zebulon Butler
6 years ago

Yes, you see feminist saying how headscarf covering is “liberating” and modesty dress is against patriarchy. Said Khan ban scantily cald female ads from London tube. It is coming.

Thank god bikini is smallest than ever now! I just learn of American spring break this year, a freedom worth dying for! I prefer it to Majorca even though European beaches topless.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Zebulon Butler
6 years ago

How about colleges and universities returning to their original existence as single sex institutions, such as the Ivy League and the Seven Sisters which not too long ago — nearly 50 yrs. — had been fashioned just that way by direction of their 18th and 19th c. founders? However, and this just occurred to me, male transgendered-to-female students can attend as female at a couple of the women’s schools, like Smith College. Let’s bring back “parietals” — the hours that the gals had to be in residence in their dorms, after late sign-outs etc. were on the books. All men… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Dr. Dre
6 years ago

It’s been found that students in single-sex in both school and college tend to take their studies more seriously than in students coed schools do. Socializing tends to be more important in coeducational institutions than studying.

Hardvanger
Hardvanger
Reply to  Zebulon Butler
6 years ago

Don’t forget, jews opened the gates of Spanish cities to invading Moors.

The jew is a desert creature. He hates Aryans.

Reg
Reg
Reply to  Hardvanger
6 years ago

Ashkenazic Jews originate from Russia/Central Asia not the desert.

Severian
6 years ago

No black men have been accused… and no homosexuals either. Show of hands: Who here really believes Rachel Maddow hasn’t done more than play footsie with an intern? Anyone? Beuller? They must be shitting bricks in the ivory tower, figuring out how to rewrite The Victim Hierarchy ™.

Din C. Nufin
Din C. Nufin
Reply to  Severian
6 years ago

John Conyers co-founded the black caucus in 1969

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Severian
6 years ago

They signaled that homos were fair game with the Spacey take down, which was pretty dramatic. The dykes are pretty aggressive recruiting women, but women may find the experience too icky to advertise much. And since even white rapists won’t rape black women there can’t be much harassment going on there, depending on what qualifies as black. Maybe Mariah Carey was harassed before she got fat. Black guys of course go after everything, or black women would never get harassed, but that’s their job because, slavery.

hypie
hypie
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

po’po sub-saharan gashes. Only about 1 in 10 ever gets legally married & now only about 1 in 10 can even get harassed…face it, except for the exceptions like Lena Horne they just ain’t desirable, nobody wants them, no body even pesters them. Don’t even have human hair…As far as Conyers or Russellinkshy goes, they don’t even grope black girls…Always an “Uncle Overnite” never a Husband ,,,, unpleasant but pretty much true

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  hypie
6 years ago

Lena was no Sub-Saharan! More like an octoroon at worst!
But you are correct.

Every one of the dusky brahs has asked
that Cleavon Little question from Blazing Saddles:
” Hey! Wherer da wite wimmin at?”

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

All women start out bisexual anyway and stay that way or at least bi-curious, throughout their lives. Watch little girls: they’re always hugging, kissing and stroking each other’s hair. Even well-known lesbians switch teams frequently. So the Maddcows of the world are unlikely take-down targets Besides, what real man doesn’t mind seeing two women munching each other’s carpet?

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  Old Codger
6 years ago

Old Codger:
No. Girls and women may show affection, but for most of us, it’s purely platonic, *not* sexual. Eeew.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Ursula
6 years ago
fondatorey
Member
Reply to  Severian
6 years ago

Gay culture is naturally as exploitative as what we are seeing – with all participants being in it to mutually use then discard all the other participants.

So we will have to wait a bit. The gays will get smashed when the people abused as kids start coming forward.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  fondatorey
6 years ago

Whooo boy. Will the adopted kids of male couples get a chance to vent?

FaCubeItches
FaCubeItches
6 years ago

“As far as the dominant side of this, liberal career women accusing liberal men of playing grab ass in the workplace, the one thing that jumps out so far is that no black men have been accused. ”

Da fuq?
– John Conyers

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  FaCubeItches
6 years ago

“Where da white wimmin’ at?”

Guest
Guest
6 years ago

CNN is reporting a fifth accuser for Al Franken. Military woman on active duty. Franken allegedly “cupped” her breast during a photo session.

Don’t see how Franken can survive this. Pass the popcorn!

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Guest
6 years ago

I am enjoying the travails of his fellow Minnesotan and unctious NPR liberal Garrison Keillor much more.

Tax Slave
Reply to  bad guest
6 years ago

And that’s the news from Lake Woebegone, where the women are all molested, the men look like frogs and the children have sex far more than average.

Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
6 years ago

(spewing coffee!!!)

TomA
TomA
6 years ago

The dysfunction wrought by feminism is far worse than just workplace effects. It distorts traditional dating rituals, forcing participants to the extremes of either whoring or abstinent isolation. It undermines military effectiveness, which then identifies a nation as ripe for overthrow. It reduces family life to endless debate over even the most trivial of matters. And it has turned the legal system into a thugocracy. As bad as Islam is, at least it understands where this danger leads and fiercely adheres to it’s patriarchy.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  TomA
6 years ago

Women screw up the workplace dynamics where ever they go. They just introduce too many new and anti-strategic variables into whatever it is the men are trying to accomplish. Women KNOW that they have this power and work to exploit it. ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE. This is the reason that parochial schools used to separate the boys and the girls in classrooms. It is part of the common sense knowledge of the human species that was passed down through the ages to the 1970s and 1980s, where feminists tore it up into tiny pieces and dumped them in the trash. I… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  bad guest
6 years ago

Down votes pretty harsh on this observation. I simply couldn’t understand how women tolerated polygamy until I understood that your average woman would rather have sme fraction of an alpha than 100% of a beta. DNA’s a bitch. You ride it or it rides you.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

Why don’t Islamic females revolt?
Perhaps kids, kids, kids screams success to feminine psyches in a way that overrides personal unhappiness.

This may be related to Zman’s “people in aggregate are different from individuals.”

Plus, it is as often that the females perform the clitoridectomy on little girls- too horrific for details, as I’ve known these women and their sad, angry husbands- another monstrous mystery. Women!

Bunny
Bunny
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Really, you’re asking that question? You’re being facetious. They don’t know anything else. Plus, they’ll get smacked around or killed if they revolt. They have absolutely no power and no redress in Islamic society. Did they make the rules? Women!

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Women in that environment have no ability to speak up. Beyond that, the culture does encourage them to build the family nest and nurture the young, which are the two big female biological imperatives. Their men protect and provide, for the most part, which is the biological role the women expect of the men.

As for the freedoms, opportunities, and rights, remember that Islam is in many ways a glorified gang culture, and the gangs don’t generally give their women much personal freedom at all.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  TomA
6 years ago

Who would ever want to overthrow the US? What are you going to get for your trouble? Over 50% of our population is on some form of government aid. Almost 50% pay no income tax, and another 30% pay very little. We are $20 trillion dollars in debt. The raw truth is that about 20% of the population of this country carries the other 80% of the population, and that 20% will simply stop working under an oppressive regime. Plus, why bother to overthrow the US when you can just take advantage of our lax immigration laws and flood the… Read more »

Al fron da Nort
Al fron da Nort
Reply to  Guest
6 years ago

Guest;
You describe a classic, business-takeover-bustout opportunity writ large. The kind of situation that made Mitt Romney rich on an individual firm level.

It is a classic mistake that many folk who ought to know better make: Supposing that the elite/top management actually care about the rest in a globalist, atomized society.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Al fron da Nort
6 years ago

Fortune 500 CEOs get paid to the point where 5 good years and done works for them. They get paid each year on stock price metrics (options and/or bonuses), so they pump the stock for a few years, come what may for the company after that.

Either that or Mitt comes in and strips the walls bare. Go into a Staples and try to find anyone in the joint who has any more skin in the game other than their hourly wage.

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  Guest
6 years ago

If the US were taken over, probably the top 20% producers would be forced to channel their profits to the new leaders, hand over their businesses or die. And the rest of us could provide slave labor or die. There’s no shortage of humans on the earth that would be happy to reap the resources of our lands for whoever is boss.

Teapartydoc
Member
6 years ago

Whenever a woman comes on to you keep in mind that it is a power play in which she plans to come out with the power, not you.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Teapartydoc
6 years ago

She’s got half the money and all the p*ssy, which means she’ll soon have all the money too. Eureka! I found it- the difference! What they have are female minds. Not sexual preference, but thinking. After the unfortunate, inevitable Thanksgiving argument, I noticed: this person is using all the bitch techniques. It’s like I pinched him on the ass. Triggering Hypersensitivity Outrage Moral preening Hypocrisy Transference Innocence Never wrong nor did wrong Faultless Teddy bears (pulling in others..’what about your wife… the kids…’) Changing subject…(what about…) Then accusing you of changing subject (but you said… you hypocrite) Words mean nothing… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Beta men want to live in a feminine world because women never get punched in the nose when they act like jerks. The biggest physical risk is one of those crazy slap fights that look and sound like a bunch of angry cats in a sack.

David+Wright
Member
6 years ago

My wife works with me in my business, should I be worried?

The big elephant in the room still is Bubba, is it ever going to happen. Probably when that fellow partner in crime gets indicted which means never.

TBarker
TBarker
6 years ago

From the days of Serving and Bar tending to my current office cubical, co-workers all agree the incredibly notable difference on days with limited female staff. Overwhelming calm and productivity flood the area in their absence. Went to a chain sports/beer/all female skirted staff place for the first time in many years and was immediately reminded why I stopped going. Disinterest in sports aside the service is atrocious. We all agreed that we would rather go to an all male staffed TV-less restaurant/bar than wait ten minutes to be asked if I wanted a second drink that will have to… Read more »

David+Wright
Member
Reply to  TBarker
6 years ago

Most people know this and women will admit at some point it also. Bad day with the female coworkers and she will be begging for some assertive male to fix it.
Schools used to acknowledge this by separating the boys and the girls. That and newly emerging hormonal activity.

Al fron da Nort
Al fron da Nort
6 years ago

Z Man; I think we’re ignoring the ‘princess’ angle. An under-noticed aspect is that we’re mostly talking about elite, white female accusers here, You know, the sort of over-entitled elite females who expect men to hand them prizes and resources just because they’re them. What’s that got to do with the purvnado, you ask_? Well, I may be leaning too far over my ski’s here, but I recall Portnoy’s Complaints centered around *mom*. So, who was Portnoy’s mom_? A JAP I’d venture. I don’t know if Jewish American Princesses are still ‘a thing’, but they most definitely were when I… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Al fron da Nort
6 years ago

Purvnado! You are absolute gold.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Al;
Thanks, but sadly not original. i think reading Steven Hayward’s not-to-be-missed This Week in Pictures weekly Friday/Saturday feature at Powerlineblog.com was the first time I saw it.

Brooklyn
Brooklyn
6 years ago

“Like most normal men, I’m enjoying the hell out of seeing the girls go crazy, accusing every liberal man in sight of being a predator.” I am absolutely enjoying the hell out of this latest moral panic; probably though what it boils down to is Gen Y and Millennials shuffling the Boomers out of door. If there were still money available for everyone, they’d probably tolerate the old guys until they died or retired on their own but given the economy, this is a very entertaining way to clear the decks and make sure they can’t come back. “Thanks to… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Brooklyn
6 years ago

In my experience, the American Jewish men are either completely cucked betas, or they are alphas who have turned their backs on their Jewish wives and are out looking for shiksa conquests. Not much in between.

The big problem, across the board, is that some women have the sexual market value to own any room they walk into, but most do not. For the ones who don’t, well, there you go. As women are not fundamentally hierarchical in their relationships like men are, everything with them is a cat fight rather than a pecking order.

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

The Jewish issue in the US is super weird. Rootless Cosmopolitan Globalists are the cause of almost all the problems in the US now with pathological greed coming in second place and technology in third Its not mainly a Jewish thing like some WN types think. I’d argue its mostly a WASP issue though obviously the Jewish diaspora has a lot of influence too. The US is chock-a-bloc with Jews and its pretty philosemitic but in fact most people with Jewish blood in this country are mischlings . 58% of all Jews, 71% of secular ones are intermarried as of… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
6 years ago

As a man, I feel sorry for anyone that some woman accuses of looking at her against her will. Don’t misinterpret. I’m glad to see jewish and gay scum shot down along with castrating the left and the genital mutilation of feminism. But, men are taught such conflicting opinions about women that it is a minor miracle that anyone ever gets married. Pre-pubescent boys know the truth about females. They’re nuts! It is the hormonal trick that God uses to populate his Earth that leads men to find something useful about women. Of course, after X number of years of… Read more »

A.T. Tapman (Merica)
A.T. Tapman (Merica)
Member
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
6 years ago

AWS, why do you sugarcoat our present situation?

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  A.T. Tapman (Merica)
6 years ago

I sugarcoat because I’m a sweet guy.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
6 years ago

I will suggest one small amendment there. Men are hierarchical, and respect the social pecking order (most of the time). As dogs do. Women are more like cats, self-centered and they consistently see themselves as the equal or superior of everyone around them. They look for opportunities to express that equality/superiority, and absolutely hate the hierarchical and largely merit-based nature of a male-oriented culture, which “holds them down” under a “glass ceiling”. The weird thing, and perhaps a source of cognitive dissonance for the woman, is that while she despises the social hierarchy, she is determined to place herself at… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

“Dogs have masters, cats have staff”

Great observation, really fits

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

The wife just ran a re-run of “Grease” ’80’s?
In the first 4 minutes the guys all talked about the the cars they would build, the girls about how they would, as seniors, now “Rule the School”

Observer
Observer
6 years ago

Sure. There are some intelligent & capable individual women. However. Whenever women are added to an organization, the list of goals of that organization is changed to add “make women feel okay”. If that means changing the entire way that the organization & all the people working in it function, so be it. Unfortunately, the way that women’s brains are wired, they cannot feel okay for very long. No matter what changes have been made, women will eventually find the situation unbearable & demand more changes. Over time, this process continues until “make women feel okay” becomes the first, most… Read more »

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
6 years ago

This issue boils down to one simple concept – treating all people with respect. No man, and no woman, should ever put another person in an awkward or uncomfortable position. This is isn’t left vs right, liberals vs conservatives, Jews vs. Christians – it’s about treating others as they themselves would be treated. No more, no less. You actually summed it up quite well…”Sure, there will be dummies who can’t control themselves”. Exactly! It’s about self control. And every man should act like a gentleman, and every woman, a lady. Self control, common decency and good manners apply across the… Read more »

Backwoods+Engineer
Backwoods+Engineer
Reply to  Karl Horst
6 years ago

” This is isn’t left vs right, liberals vs conservatives, Jews vs. Christians – it’s about treating others as they themselves would be treated.”

Buuuut that very phrase descends from these two religions, and Jesus Christ himself said “Do unto others as you would have done to you.” (Full disclosure: I work for the latter.)

Sim1776
Sim1776
Reply to  Backwoods+Engineer
6 years ago

There is no judeo-Christ. Christ said those words. The Jews practiced “eye for an eye,” blood debts, and other lovely things. As to the topic at hand, always “cover your @ss,” period. Sexual harassment has been a social justice vogue since Anita Hill. The harpies are in overdrive. Perhaps it’s like Z-man says and the knives have come out since the MSM is slowly dying. If we want to indulge in theories, I rather like the one regarding the Chinese Intel dirt being used to take over much of the entertainment industry. Either way, it really is popcorn time for… Read more »

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Karl Horst
6 years ago

Karl; These are excellent aspirations that pretty well describe the desired middle and upper middle class Western standards that prevailed until the Marxist tsunami of the late ’60s. In fact the last sentence of your 2nd paragraph is an exact paraphrase from my 1967 edition of the Air Officer’s Guide.* IIRC, it said that the air officer must act as though all his fellow officers were gentlemen and all females were ladies. If course, the realities of a garrison town were otherwise. But, it was never-the-less an ideal that one disrespected publicly at the peril of being removed for ‘conduct… Read more »

McChuck
McChuck
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
6 years ago

One problem – women don’t understand the concept of earned respect. It’s a male trait. Women are all about putting people in awkward situations – it’s how they establish the pecking order. Men and women should never be in any organization together, unless the function requires both sexes. Men and women use completely different methods of establishing social dominance hierarchies. The problem comes in where males aren’t allowed to use their dominance techniques against women – they’re too fragile, physically and emotionally. So in a mixed group, women can be catty and evil to men, but men can’t punch them… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
6 years ago

I know. HR has several references to “inappropriate sexual conduct” in the work place. So the question remains, what is “appropriate sexual conduct” in the workplace?

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Karl Horst
6 years ago

“Exactly! It’s about self control. And every man should act like a gentleman, and every woman, a lady.

Self control, common decency and good manners apply across the board matter who you are.”

We used to have a culture that operated on that precept. But it went away sometime in the late 1960s.

Now it’s every cis-man, cis-woman and everything inbetween those two poles for itself, and its group.

Anyone quaint enough to abide by the old rules is just lunch for one of the other more aggressive demographics.

Burner Prime
6 years ago

The inevitable ending to this ongoing shit-test, is women finally saying, “Man Up and rape us already.” The newest cautions professional men are exercising, such as open door meetings, never traveling alone in a vehicle w/females, limited social time, and early exits from social events – a la Pence, is already causing women to lash out and cry sexism. Boo hoo, ‘can’t effectively “strategize” and provide confidential input to assist decision-makers….’ This is yet another shit-test, tempting men to put themselves in vulnerable positions, ripe for female accusations. The weak will be weeded out. Don’t be weak, shut the ho’s… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Burner Prime
6 years ago

In Reagan’s White House unescorted women were never permitted to see Reagan alone. I’m sure that was not unique to his administration, but rather an understanding for centuries that this was bad form and asking for trouble. Then in the age of equality we suddenly knew better.

LFMayor
LFMayor
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

You can thank Squeaky Fromm for that…

Enter the Fist
Enter the Fist
6 years ago

20 years ago women started showing up in my industry. The camaraderie just died. It is only fun to go to work if there are no women around.

Tim
Tim
Member
6 years ago

“Well plowed land?” Okay, then!
Pessimists like me tend to think this culture is in a permanent downward spiral. But, looking at this, kids and teens have to be watching and thinking that this is just totally f-ed up, and maybe things should be different. So it will be interesting to see, before I shuffle off, that is, if there is a reaction in the direction of sanity.

Member
6 years ago

I was relentlessly pursued by a woman at work 20 years my junior. 30 ish. Total SJW type as I would discover. No power play. We were essentially equals. I had told her no several times, but eventually decided to ask her out for coffee. She laughed in my face. Gave me several excuses for why it wouldn’t happen, she had finals, was learning her new position at work after a promotion and kind of had a boyfriend. I apologized for my misunderstanding and assured her it wouldn’t happen again. (We had a common social circle). It took her 5… Read more »

Burner Prime
Reply to  2jeffersonianideals1
6 years ago

Had a similar experience. Female was super flirty, dressed up sexy just for me, gave me gifts, demanded my attention, badmouthed her husband, complimented my physique, plus a thousand other green lights. When I finally made a move, she crucified me to HR. It was worse than hell. I barely survived.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Burner Prime
6 years ago

One aspect of all of this will be to use the HR system to drive the oldsters out of the workplace. There is a reason why Conyers and Keillor are being run out, but Franken gets to stay.

Kauf Buch
Kauf Buch
6 years ago

I call it “The night of the Long Knives Vaginas”

Mike@Mike.Mike
Mike@Mike.Mike
6 years ago

“Thanks to Seinfeld, the goyim know something about the shiksa fetish…”

Let’s not forget Billy Joel, and his quests for underage Catholic girls as narrated in the song “Only the Good Die Young”.

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper
Reply to  Mike@Mike.Mike
6 years ago

Yeah.

I”ll note this is common in different forms to White people (c.f Aerosmith’s Crazy and Hot Topic) Jews and Japanese alike (Sailor suits) . It only barely qualifies as a perversion, subject to age of course

Also most people until recently didn’t know Billy Joel was Jewish

Chu
Chu
6 years ago

I agree, it’s like Christmas came a little early this year. This video talks about Weinstein being a scapegoat for the perverted hollywood industry. It gets good at minute 24 onward – it discusses Roth’s ‘Portnoy’s Complaint’ and that lust for the shiksa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=GFJ5_bLo65Q I always thought they desired shiksas because it was something that was at one point unattainable to the tribe. Centuries pass and they get their chance to shag a few and they treat them like dogs. The Weinstein behavior is part of a larger social disorder. And remember Dov Chaney at American Apparal pulling out his… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Chu
6 years ago

The male urge to capture and subdue the women of another tribe goes way back. As the Jews still have deep ties to their tribe, they tend to act tribally. Same with the different Muslim tribes and many other groups.

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  Chu
6 years ago

Beginning to wonder if the rape of Dinah in Genesis 34 wasn’t a case of projection followed by making the other guys pay for something the sons of Abraham had done.

Screwed up world.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Teapartydoc
6 years ago

I just read a very engaging ‘The Red Tent’- Jacob’s story from the daughter Dinah’s point of view.

Old Testament as if the women had written it. Jewess author, she agrees with you.

hypie
hypie
6 years ago

the great battle, looming on the near horizon, regarding “sex bots” is going to be gigantic & furiously fought. The self-same feminists will go all out to ban sex bots when even their dullard brains wrap themselves around the truth of the notion that coupled with The Microwave, the coming generations of sex bots will obviate the need of any human males to interact with any human females. Reproduction will be a test tube deal & hopefully a high price will be paid for sperm donations

Bert Darrell
Bert Darrell
6 years ago

Gee, I didn’t know that Conyers (US Rep. for Detroit, MI) was “white”.

George Orwell
George Orwell
6 years ago

There are the exceptions, and it doesn’t disprove the general rule, however there have been gays and blacks involved. Conyers, Cosby, Spacey, Takei. But noticing that is nothing compared to noticing the overwhelming number of Jewish men accused. It’s another Shoah!

Hypercacher
Hypercacher
6 years ago

Re: Jewish men being sex perverts. If you read one Phillip Roth book it is plain to see this. Hollywood where Jewish men go to achieve American dream of life, liberty and the pursuit of shiksas. I am fortunate to have dark Sephardi skin and pale eyes from Ashkenazi side. I am not the most handsome man on earth but many women like this mixture. I would see response of women I’d flirt with in office versus less attractive or less dominant men and feel sorry for them. Reminds me of comedy skit where the rule 1 of sexual harrassment… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  Hypercacher
6 years ago

One of the reasons I love academia. My colleagues are all hypersensitive to anything that might possibly be construed as flirtation… but there’s not enough booze in the world to be tempted. That’s probably the only reason we haven’t heard more about this stuff in the ivory tower yet — undergrads are far too apathetic to go to a professor’s office hours, which means the only targets of opportunity are fellow faculty members. Which…ewwww.

Whiskey
6 years ago

Russell Simmons is accussed of raping Sidney Lumets daughter who is Lena Hornes Granddaughter. Also Harvey Weinstein is accused of raoinfg a very Black actress.

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Sounds made-up to me, too. She’s not unattractive, but nowhere near her grandmother’s standard. Guys like Simmons don’t hook up with 6s and 7s, it seems to me. On another note P J O’Rourke, back when he used to be funny, was her brother-in-law, for three years, at least.

Tekton
Tekton
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

I disagree. I read her account today as well. Sounded very frighteningly real to me. The dude had been priming her for some time and she thought it was “cute” but essentially ignored him. Then he saw her that night, drank a little gin and juice and got a little angry over her ‘re-buff’… Saw and took his opportunity to take what rightfully was his. Her account is exactly as I would expect it to go down. Meanwhile, the negro at large has now admitted it occurred but that their “memories of it differ”. No doubt they do… Also, I… Read more »

Tekton
Tekton
Reply to  Tekton
6 years ago

Btw, excellent post, Zman. Pure gold. Your observations therein are more than sufficient penance for your prior sins of ignorance…Maybe even your future ones as well.

Robert What?
Robert What?
6 years ago

In terms of Shiksappeal, all you have to do is see the typical ball busting strong independent Jewish woman and it becomes clearer.

Joey+Junger
Joey+Junger
6 years ago

“The Hedgehog” Ron Jeremy was just an actor and minor malefactor. Look at some of the Jews actually making the porn (though a lot do star in it, as well). Al Goldstein (of “Screw” fame) used to say that not only did he kill Christ, but he wished Jesus would come down off the cross so he could have sex with the holes in his hands. I used to think the anti-semites who went on about the Jewish obsession with feces were crazy, but they’re not. I’ll spare you the details, but the truth is worse than the worst blood… Read more »

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
6 years ago

Remember a great quote from John D. MacDonald in one of his books…”Never hump the help. They get uppity”. Always stuck by that. And it worked just fine. But Z is spot on at the end. I’ve mentored a lot of women over the years that have gone on to be highly successful. But, like bowling, “there are rules” you need to stick to. What can see happening in the corp environment is guys decide it is simply not worth the risk since we’ve decided to throw due process out the window.

The Usual Suspect
The Usual Suspect
6 years ago

I have been thinking along the same lines, “woman rights” will be set back 25 years. Using women in staff positions only when necessary. I would not hire a woman unless I could not find a man to do the job. It’s not worth the headaches. There’s a reason it was traditionally considered bad luck to have a woman aboard ship.

Herzog
Herzog
6 years ago

Leftist women turning on elite leftist men probably also indicates that in their female guts leftism and high status don’t go together well any longer.

It’s the age of Trump.

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
6 years ago

An estrogen sh*t storm of this scale could be a cause and effect phenomenon spurred by an overpopulation of beta males. This looks like boundary testing creating reassurance that the alphas are in charge and protecting the safe spaces.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Eclectic Esoteric
6 years ago

It’s bullfrogs.

Instead of males croaking, bonobo females screech.

That mating call invites a male to come perform a dominance display.

It may be on a competitor male (lets you and him fight), a competitor female (he picked me over you), or the female herself (emotional hyperstimulation, negativity creates meaning- he conquers, she surrenders. Loveplay with ‘the right amount of pain’, like a tiger clawing the female’s shoulders. The scent of blood excites the female tiger.)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

In the cities, in urban industries, females outnumber males; their forlorn screeching is becoming a deafening cacaphony, an echo chamber driving all mad in the desperate call for mates

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Evolution revolution – the pendulum swings.

Glen Filthie
Glen Filthie
Member
6 years ago

Great minds think alike, Z! I could have written that word for word, or maybe not as well. I don’t think I am being premature with this: the left will go into full collapse soon. Only the loons and their lickspittles are taking them seriously now. Try to say anything you just did – and they will have to bring out the big guns and take big steps to silence you. If they succeed, the result is anger and fury. If they fail, it’s derisive laughter. The only question is this: when they fall – are we ready to take… Read more »

bad guest
bad guest
6 years ago

The Hedgehog was recently accused of rape for “basically sticking it in without me knowing it was happening” by a webcam model while she was trying get him “ready” for a photo shoot

His reply to the “victim” is pure gold.

https://pagesix.com/2017/11/16/multiple-women-accuse-ron-jeremy-of-sexual-assault/

123 here I come
123 here I come
Reply to  bad guest
6 years ago

She’s just doing a promo.

fondatorey
Member
6 years ago

I think you are right about the Jewish influence. Their Eastern culture is patriarchal compared to our Western one, with specifically male things esteemed to such a degree that the women want to aspire to them too, because they agree with their culture that male things are first rate and female things are second rate.

SES
SES
6 years ago

I think the original feminist wave was a necessary correction to some serious wrongs in society. It wasn’t voiced, but the Muslim view that women are only 3/5 human compared to the men’s fully human, seemed to be assumed in many places here in Western society and supported by the church. I distinctly remember my mother getting beaten by my adopted father on many occasions. I remember her wearing dark sunglasses in the grocery store, putting concealer on the bruises on her neck and face, and wearing long sleeves in the summer to hide all the bruises and black eyes.… Read more »

Member
6 years ago

Interesting thoughts about males shunning one-on-one encounters with females in the office. I wonder if the old “men’s club” will make a comeback in some form?

Jta
Jta
6 years ago

Spot on. I spotted this trend several years ago and have walled myself off completely from women in the workplace.

VVV
VVV
6 years ago

I’m an IT executive and I learned long ago not to associate with women in any capacity at a social level. And never meet with a woman 1-on-1, ever.

Gazoo
Gazoo
6 years ago

This trend will result in an exponential increase in lonely cat ladies in a few years.

Gretz
Gretz
6 years ago

My training for all of this was 13 years of family court. I learned to record what I said, account for where I was, get receipts, log mileage, (later: turn on Google’s locate feature,) know where cameras were, have friendly and unimpeachable witnesses whenever possible, and never, ever, be alone with a woman, especially when you cannot account for 100% of what happens. Seriously, getting divorced in this day and age makes this widespread witch hunt look like ameteur hour. It made dating virtually impossible, but, meh, I’m 50+ with the custody of my two girls. What the hell do… Read more »

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
6 years ago

Geez. Zman’s post is interesting and spot-on, but reading the extensive *comments* is just exhausting. They illustrate and emphasize just how much feminism and its victories have fucked up our society. We’re going down, folks. No two ways about it.

Djamer
Djamer
6 years ago

Yes then, you are unwittingly playing directly into “their” game as just another proponent of division, derision and segregation of every being placed in category after separating category, walling all of ourselves off from each other, effectively, (by affectively), doing the job FOR the Human Farmers!

thekrustykurmudgeon
6 years ago

I really feel like women are ruining the left and this is coming from a former leftist who still subscribes to some leftism.

But the question is – why can’t the left just rely on being run by males? The overwhelmingly democratic congresses of 1937-1938, 1975-1978 and 1965-1966 were 95% male.

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  thekrustykurmudgeon
6 years ago

One wonders why anyone would value that question, or the answer.

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
Pimpkin\'s Nephew
Reply to  thekrustykurmudgeon
6 years ago

Exactly. A Left run by Leonid Brezhnev and his surrogates in the CPUSA made way more sense than what’s going on now.

Dennis L
Dennis L
6 years ago

Zman, I am a big fan of your commentary, and you make some good points here. However, I think you go too far by suggesting that women should not generally work. In the information age, women are as intelligent as men, and should not be precluded from a career. I have worked in corporate America for 30 years, and know full well how careful you have to be around women. Generally it involves acting like a gentleman, but you also have to go beyond that to be safe. I have also seen false allegations against men. But the overwhelming problem… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Men in power generally target the white women because white women are the “prize”. Remember, all this stuff is about exercising power as much as it is sex. Taking a woman who is not white is not as full an exercise in power.

A.T. Tapman (Merica)
A.T. Tapman (Merica)
Member
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Come on Dutch, if you have functional eyes you have likely noticed that black women are generally fat and ugly or just ugly and unpleasant. I avoid any interactions with blacks and I know I am not the only one. They have ugly, unpleasant armor.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  A.T. Tapman (Merica)
6 years ago

For me, it’s always been “nope”, no real reason, that direction just doesn’t interest me in the least. Never has, from day one. I figure it is a personal quirk, but maybe not.

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

I’ve always found Black women with white features (Halle Berry, for example) to be attractive. The fat Negress at the RMV, not so much.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ganderson
6 years ago

Black girls in porn. Or black anything. Horror.
Imagine porn without white girls.
Nuff said.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

The point is to emasculate western culture so that the self-hating betas can make the rest of us suffer. The self-haters don’t want to live in a better world, they want to deliver the rest of us into the misery that they experience. The elites are happy to assist them in their efforts.

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

I really don’t think it’s “white knighting” or altering male biology to ask men to behave with basic decency. Biology and macroeconomics would say that if women have identical abilities for a certain task, they should not be prohibited from doing that task. I am not advocating for lowering standards so the girls can keep up, e.g. military, police, construction, etc. I also do not favor affirmative action or any of the other denials of biology. I am not opposed to the thought that women are better biologically suited to child rearing. But that only covers a short portion of… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

There are many things and many times when having a woman’s presence among men improves men. Work is generally not one of them. Since scads of women are now at work we have no easy examples to compare, like ChiefIlliniCake above.

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

I dunno. I have worked in both settings. I am currently a 53 year old controller for an internet startup with an equal proportion of men and women. All millennials. They are very delicate, but very nice.
And the women are smart and pleasant to look at. In my early career, a crusty old boss and all male setting had it’s charms. But I prefer the current arrangement.

LFMayor
LFMayor
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

A White Night ala Jonestown would do much to solve problems.

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

> Biology and macroeconomics would say that if women have identical abilities for a certain task, they should not be prohibited from doing that task. Isn’t that macroeconomics stuff says that your best bet is your comparative advantage? There is a massive comparative advantage that women have: they can give birth. There is another one: nurturing. Definitely during infancy, and for the first seven years in general. Four kids, separated by a year, raised to be teenagers? That’s 20 years of her life, from 22 to 42. She’ll never catch up with men career-wise, and her education will be wasted.… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

I can’t speak for Russia, but the average child per family in the US is two. So in your example that means the mother is raising kids for 6-7 years before they go to school. So you want them sitting around for the next 50 years of their lives, producing nothing? This isn’t the 1950s during war, where they have to work in mines. I agree that people are not mere economic agents, but the economics are specifically what we are talking about here. The premise of the article is that women’s productivity is not worth men needing to act… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

> So you want them sitting around for the next 50 years of their lives, producing nothing? They are not cows. I do not expect them to produce anything, at least not out of necessity. Are you? My wife is 32; I am a year older. She was 20 when we married, and gave birth to our first same year. She never worked a day in her life until she decided to start a house bakery. She loves baking, and posting photos, and organising events, and meeting new people. There’s not much money in that (although it provides excellent connections,… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

I did not mean “produce” in a purely financial sense, but in the sense of accomplishing things in life. If your wife wants to use her 132 IQ to bake and post photos, that is her free will. If she wants to use it to research a cure for cancer, that should be her option as well. You seem to be saying she can’t because that’s for the men to do. I am man enough to not be afraid of my wife’s success. Project your Mom fantasies elsewhere. I was a state champion wrestler, and could kick your scrawny Russian… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

> You seem to be saying she can’t because that’s for the men to do. I stated my point clearly: “Women can work as good as men. That doesn’t mean they should. And if they have to, that means their men failed them.” As for your wrestler past – good for you! I did self-defence since the age of seven, thanks to my dad, but I always prefered punching to grappling. Every man should know how to throw a punch and how not to fold after receiving one. Training did not protect me from a mix of the stab and… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

I believe a man has failed his wife if she has a genius level IQ and he actively discourages her from pursuing all the good that can be done in the world with that rare gift. Again, if it’s her choice, fine. But if you would forcefully block her from developing her talent, or block other talented women by refusing to hire them, that is the act of a small coward. My experience with boxers is that they can get in one punch to the top of the head, and then they are on their back with a broken hand.… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

> I believe a man has failed his wife if she has a genius level IQ and he actively discourages her from pursuing all the good that can be done in the world with that rare gift. I say it one more time: I do not think that women must be prevented from work. I believe that women must never be forced to work for a living by society/circumstances. All too often shitty men use “equality” as an excuse to keep being shitty. I see it all around. I consider this to be the default stance every time a man… Read more »

ms100
ms100
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

It’s great that some of you are very happy with a very traditional lifestyle. However, the devil is in the details. If women only stayed home, what happens during a divorce? Many marriages are financially OK when together but are devastated when divorcing. Or the husband dies and, therefore, there is no breadwinner? Or the husband is very low income and the wife has to work? I’m an atypical female who prefers typical male pursuits and professions and dislikes most contemporary women. We work well with men. There needs to be a place at work for us that is more… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  ms100
6 years ago

The first phrase in the post you replied to is: “I do not think that women must be prevented from work.” That’s the difference between Western traditionalism and the Sharia. I do not think that women are lesser creatures like Arabs do, and hence should be patronised. I don’t think that women are inherently worse at what they do and therefore should leave the public sphere to men. Instead, I believe that women are creatures of beauty, and men are creatures of duty. A woman in work is a potential for a beautiful care-free exotic flower wasted. I feel myself… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Your problem is, you presume that housewives are idle citizens. That they produce nothing.

They produce sane, happy and content husnabds and kids and run local community.

soapweed
soapweed
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

Sergey: Concur, sir. As the oldy Glen Campbell song goes…. ” the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world.”
soapweed

Member
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

No, that isn’t the premise, no matter how many times you keep saying it. The premise is: the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. That goes for men and women, at and away from work. Yes, it can be worthwhile and there have always been talented women who can and do deliver at work. But overall, there is probably less happiness, healthiness, contentedness, children, investment in communities, accountability to each other and far less stability in marriages (more divorce). You throw that all away at the alter of equal access. I’m exchange for what? More money. More obesity. More striving. More… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Shouldn’t stop them, but we need not force it. Forcing it in several ways is today’s cultural conquest problem.

Really, we can adjust work hours.

Al fron da Nort
Al fron da Nort
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Z Man;
The point of Feminism, aka Cultural Marxism is to overthrow ‘the sssysstuum’ (I’m bad at Brooklyn accents in print).

Then utopia comes, only smart people will run things, art will be everywhere, the lazy will prosper and the unattractive can sexually satiate themselves.

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

It’s puzzling to me why so many dudes have so willingly ceded control of their patriarchal birthright. I absolutely love being The Man for my wife and kids. Who in their right mind, what man, would will that opportunity away to find themselves in the beta role, relegated to sharing laundry duty or washing dishes so she could go out into the shitty “real world”, get her guts kicked in too, all for what? A few extra bucks? Watching your kids be raised by some hourly worker at a day-care center? Listening to her drone on endlessly about her shitty… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

That’s fine if your wife is into the subservient role. To each their own. Good luck repealing the 19th amendment and the 1964 civil rights act (that’s not sarcasm. Seriously, good luck). But it’s a little ridiculous to dramatize sitting in front of a computer manipulating characters all day (which is what most jobs are now), as getting “my teeth kicked in.” Once your kids are over the age of 7, it’s time for them to take care of themselves. And without kids, the rest of your wife’s “duties” take at most a few hours per day. It actually sounds… Read more »

Sergey
Sergey
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

> What does she do the rest of the day while you are slaving away?

Having a life. Don’t you think women deserve it?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Sergey
6 years ago

Sergey, you rock, dude. Sergey rules!

Sim1776
Sim1776
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

A good wife would also see to the education of said children instead of turning them over to the Marxist indoctrination camps masquerading as an “education system” and finding “fulfillment” in a cubicle… The power dynamic is totally screwed in society right now and its why most people are miserable. The building block of society is the family unit. Our priority as men is to provide for a stable family unit, guide our children, and lead our wives. Women’s priority should be to support her husband, give him a comfortable,loving place to which to come home, and nurture and educate… Read more »

Chiefillinicake
Chiefillinicake
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Subservient role? What’s your fucking deal, you beta cuck? She’s my equal, the yin to my yang. It’s a package deal. We’re equally happy doing what nature intended us to do, and when we get together at the end of the day, magic happens pretty much every night. No, pervmeister, not necessarily sex, but I’d bet my lower jaw that I’m scoring more than a self-loather like you. And I BUILD SHIT. Like churches, hospitals, factories, schools, and meat prosessing plants. I’m not on FakeBook, because I’ve got a REAL FUCKING LIFE, dipshit. And if you’re of the opinion that… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  Chiefillinicake
6 years ago

Wow, such an angry rant for such a happy person. All because I think women should not be discriminated against. You’re obviously afraid to compete with women or you wouldn’t care if they want to do jobs they are qualified for. Your mommy/wife still folds your underwear and cooks all your meals and you’re an alpha? Got it.

PRCD
PRCD
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

There are almost no well-paying jobs that women are equally suited to as a man. Off the top of my head, the exceptions to the rule are nursing and teaching, but even teachers used to be mostly headmasters (notice the masculine noun). Nursing was a male-dominated profession until post-WWII when female entry made it female. This is now changing. Even in the case where women are as suited to a job as men, it’s still not worth destroying the male environment that allows men to flourish. Males change their way of speaking and thiking when women are around. It comes… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Why’s she do it?
Cuz SHE FRICKING LIKES TO, dipstick

She Likes Her Life
and you want to take that freedom away
to make her and society…”better”

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Alzaebo,

You get it. Hats off, amigo.

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  Chiefillinicake
6 years ago

Actually Chief, I thought through your comments in more detail, and realized I was being way too harsh and judgmental on you. Easy to do on an anonymous comment board. If your wife is happy in her role, you are both intellectually stimulated by each other, you don’t need her income to help you retire early, and your sex life is great, you are living the dream. I have most of that. My wife works, which will help me retire next year at 54. She is intellectually stimulating, a good mother and great in bed. But she can be pretty… Read more »

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

It’s cool. We “alphas” tend to go big when our women are insulted.

And if you got the impression that my wife is “submissive”, that too would be incorrect. That’s funny, actually.

My point is that we males allowed the gals to roll us (they used our good nature against us, frankly) and mutually for the sexes, something has been lost that will be difficult to recover.

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

There is a lot of truth to that. But I have also seen wives of friends who who take advantage of hardworking husbands. Oprah, Ellen and the View are the most popular daytime shows for a reason. I pay bills, do my own laundry and mow the lawn with about 60 minutes of effort a week. But I unfairly took your limited examples and jumped to a conclusion about your situation. I apologize. Here is the part of the article I had a problem with: “Women should only work outside the home out of extreme necessity or as a hobby,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

My gods, you want a husband, don’t you?

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Dennis L, We’ve tried it the way you’re describing for the last 40 years and it’s destroyed what used to be a nice country to live in. Most Americans are medicated, many for psychological issues. Something is wrong when so many people are that miserable. It’s no longer futuristic thinking that women and men will both work office jobs, leaving the children lost and alone, free to get in trouble or have their minds be molded by minimum-wage paid low-IQ workers. The future is now about reclaiming the best (not all, but the best) of our past traditions, like Dad… Read more »

Tekton
Tekton
Reply to  ChiefIlliniCake
6 years ago

God bless you, Chief. And your wife.

Actually, God has blessed you. Now bless Him. Publicly acknowledge your white Anglo-Saxon Israel heritage by honoring our God and His law… In other words, keep doing what you’re doing.

PS: I might steal your “perfect mousetrap” business idea. Love it.

ChiefIlliniCake
ChiefIlliniCake
Reply to  Tekton
6 years ago

Tekton, I’ll take you’re blessings and offer you my own as well. I’ve been mightily blessed to be able to support my wife and kids, get both of the kids out of college without any student loans, and come home daily to a woman who’s been able to achieve her own dream of being a kick-ass wife and mother. The point of all of this is that I really believe (know, actually) that far too many of us were sold the lie that the America of the pre-1960’s had it wrong, somehow. What’s come after the dawn of feminism has… Read more »

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Given the growing scarcity of jobs and given the degeneracy of our current society, it would be nice if we encouraged our women to get married and apply themselves to raising children well, and to make sure women are schooled in the ways to do that well. I’m not saying motherhood is for all women, but it is for most. For those women more suited to work in jobs outside the home, have at it. But it would be a beautiful thing to see some tradition restored in male and female roles and some real parenting happening with stay-at-home moms… Read more »

Sim1776
Sim1776
Reply to  Ursula
6 years ago

My hat’s off to you, Ursula. Women play a hugely critical role in our society and the Elites have done their best to destroy that. It makes the masses easier to control. My wife homeschooled our two boys. Both are good, critical thinkers. One makes good decisions and the other…well, knows what he should be doing but keeps make the “feel good” decisions. Interesting cases in inborn traits. But the point is this shaping of children to be good, capable citizens is critical from the mother. That role is the most noble one that society has next to being a… Read more »

Tully
Tully
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Stop with the White Knighting. It’s pathetic.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

I think you meant to type “huffingtonpost.com” into your browser’s address bar.

Member
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

DL wrote:
“white men in power are less likely to harass black women, because the risk is doubled”

Er, no. White men generally find black women unattractive. Take a gander at the number of black male on white female rapes vs white male on black female rapes.

hypie
hypie
Reply to  roo_ster
6 years ago

true, very few whites other than fetishists find black females even remotely attractive…which means that all the shuck’n’jive about white massa sex with da’Slab ghurlz is just more of the never ending anti-white racism that is now totally incorporated into our corrupt & corroded culture

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  hypie
6 years ago

Methinks the black slave women actually welcomed a night in Massa’s arms as it would pretty much guarantee the resultant offspring (and herself) a much higher social status, white men being the sentimental softies that she as a woman recognized them to be, than merely popping out another field hand. These women weren’t stupid;-) The master’s wife was aware of this canoodling and it drove them crazy, knowing that their children and the slave woman’s kids were kin. Read Mary Chestnut’s diary from the ante-bellum era. Where do you think the Lena Hornes came from? She was a Calhoun!! This… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  roo_ster
6 years ago

Look at the number of black male on white male rapes. 98.4% in Florida prisons is why Aryan Brotherhood was formed.

zreader
zreader
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

In the information age, women are as intelligent as men You are wrong. The bell curve distribution of female IQ is more concentrated on the mean, with skinny tails. The distribution for males has fatter tails. There are more men that are below or above average. Intelligence-dependent information age jobs realistically require people at least one SD above the mean, which means that they will tend to be filled by men. In the interest of trying to keep the conversation coherent, I’ll respond here to your post below in the same thread: I am not advocating for lowering standards so… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  zreader
6 years ago

I am aware of, and agree with, the IQ bell curve differential studies. This is also true of Asians, which is why they are great engineers, but don’t invent anything. That means there are more white male geniuses to invent things and run companies. I completely agree with you on jobs requiring physical labor, which is what I meant by not advocating for lower standards. I’m not sure why you think I disagree. However, the great majority of professional jobs in the country are in the 100-110 IQ range where white women are clustered. These jobs primarily involve sitting in… Read more »

zreader
zreader
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

I completely agree with you on jobs requiring physical labor, which is what I meant by not advocating for lower standards. I’m not sure why you think I disagree. My mistake. Typically, the equality jihadis shoving women down the military’s throat, as well as their enablers in the military’s leadership, make a point to claim disingenuously that standards will not change. I read what you said and saw an implied “… but if they can meet the standards, why not let them?” Confirmation bias, I suppose. However, the great majority of professional jobs in the country are in the 100-110… Read more »

Dennis L
Dennis L
Reply to  zreader
6 years ago

Well said. To have women in the military, you have to lower the standards so much to reach a critical mass that justifies separate facilities. It’s simply not feasible. The military is there to break things and kill people, not to force equality beyond biology. If women were better at STEM there would be more women in STEM. I also agree the 79% figure is bullshit that does not equalize for experience and market value of profession.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

So if it doesn’t show up on a balance sheet somewhere, it’s not productive, worthless.

Please see Charles Hugh Smith, Of Two Minds com blog, on the extensive perils and alternate solutions to a financialized world. You’ll like the intellect.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

Charles Hugh Smith is almost always a great read.

zreader
zreader
Reply to  Alzaebo
6 years ago

You weren’t talking to me, but that looks like a cool blog. I’ll check it out when I get some time. Thanks for the tip.

Luke
Luke
Reply to  Dennis L
6 years ago

Re women’s IQ: their average is close to that of men, but the outliers are predominantly male. If the morons are removed from a group, the remaining men will average higher IQ than the women. Oh, and at the 160 IQ level, there are practically no women.