The Custodial State

In The Servile State, Hilaire Belloc argued that industrial capitalism would eventually result in a transcendent regulatory regime. This regulatory regime replaces pure capitalism with a system of duties and obligations. Instead of a pure economic relationship between labor, business and the marketplace, a legal relationship is created and enforced by the state. The state, in theory, becomes the arbiter between the economic parties, balancing claims and adjudicating disputes.

This dynamic works as follows. The state, facing popular unrest due to the natural inequality that emerges from capitalism, sets about regulating capital. In order to do that, however, it must also regulate labor. Every new set of rules on capital requires a change or addition to the rules on labor, resulting in a complex web of reciprocal obligations and duties between the state capital and labor.

The regulatory regime that emerges from this dynamic would blur of the lines between the state and capital. The state would protect the interests of capital, while capital would support the interests of the state. Further, the system would require people to work for others, either as labor or as a paternalistic business owner. The business would have legal duties to its workforce and labor would have no choice but to work within the highly regulated system. Everyone is a servant of everyone else.

When Belloc was writing, he did not imagine that the state and capital would have a third element in addition to the economic and legal. That is the spiritual. A century ago, the spiritual was still the explicit domain of churches, which stood outside the economic and legal relationship between the state, capital and labor. Public morality was to some degree enforced by the state, but it was assumed that morality had its roots in the religious traditions. Religion was the ultimate moral authority.

Today, the spiritual is the domain of corporate giants. So-called “woke capital” is an effort to impose an official morality on the public. State sanctioned oligopolies control access to essential services like the internet, banking and the media. The result is anyone falling outside the accepted corporate morality runs the risk of being fired from their job, losing access to essential services and being socially ostracized. Woke capital not only has economic and legal duties. It has spiritual duties, as well.

A good example to see how this works is in professional sports, where the team owners are not just putting on shows for customers. They are expected to provide morality tales to the public within and around the presentation of the games. Owning a sports team is no longer about owning an entertainment business. It’s not just rich guys blowing their millions competing with one another. The sports team is now a public trust, supported with billions in public money, in order to enforce public morality.

Before and during the games, there are mini-performances that “celebrate our democracy” or “celebrate our diversity.” These little shows have no natural place in the game itself. People at a football game don’t care that the teacher of the month is a one-legged gender fluid person of color. No one cares, except for the people in charge of the show, who see the event as a way to promote their morality. The proliferation of pink, for example, is to display the dominance of that cult.

Then you have the regulation of the game itself. A player gets into trouble and the league will investigate. Think about that for a second. Not long ago, it was just assumed that the police and courts did the investigating. If your employer learned you were charged with a crime, they may ask you to resign or maybe take a leave of absence, but only if it was going to be a distraction. Today, your employer believes they own the whole you, even the parts of your life outside of your work.

What Belloc imagined was a world in which labor, business and the state were tied together by a system of positive laws. The obligations on capital and labor would resemble the ancient relationship between the slave and owner. In the ancient world, slavery was a regulated practice. The slave owner had duties to his slaves, like feeding them and providing them with shelter. Of course, the slave was legally and economically obligated to work for his master under the same regulatory regime.

What we are seeing is a slightly different part of the ancient world, the time when the West was transition from the Roman Empire to the medieval period. In the early middle ages, slave owners were often required to tend to the spiritual needs of their slaves by converting them to Christianity or prohibiting them from converting to other religions, especially Judaism. Jews, of course, saw it as their duty to convert their slaves to their faith, despite the law. The slave owner was his slave’s spiritual leader.

That’s the emerging custodial state. Belloc saw that the industrial age allowed for the concentration of capital and the possibility of a servile state. The technological age is allowing for a concentration of power, not just wealth, and therefore the emergence of a custodial state. The massive power centers based in technology and finance are creating a thicket of economic, legal and spiritual obligations between the managerial elite that control these power centers and the people subject to them

You hear it in the language used by the servants of the tech barons. When YouTube or Twitter stages a purge of “hate speech” they send out women and homosexuals, a sort of priestly class in the custodial state, to explain why they had to protect their people from these dangerous purveyors of hate speech. They are not business owners serving customers. They are keepers of a public trust. They have a moral duty, they even say it, to look out for the emotional and spiritual well-being of society.

This is where the social credit system the Trump administration is planning will differ from what is evolving in China. The Chinese communists are far too practical to worry about the spiritual well-being of their people. They do worry about their social cohesion, especially in difficult times. Their system is about suppressing those who will question the party during difficult economic times. The Chinese social credit system is an entirely defensive system to prevent the organization of political opposition.

What is evolving in America is an offensive system. In order to maintain an acceptable social credit score, people will have to actively display their virtue. It’s not unreasonable to think they will be scanning the crowds at sporting events to make sure everyone is properly enthusiastic for the salute to our diversity. Your participation in the company multicultural celebration will go a long way to determining your social credit score, not just your position within the firm. Passivity will not be tolerated.


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De Beers Diamonds
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It was a major blackpill when I saw the Boomercons fly into rage about Kapernick, and then fall victim to both a short attention span and utter hypocrisy. Indeed, if I had a dollar for everyone that said “I’m boycotting the NFL and watching NCAA”. It also wasn’t reported much that just as the owners paid off Kapernick, they also paid off Trump to get him to stop supporting boycotts. Or maybe they just stroked his ego. More importantly, Congress was debating an end to tax-exempt stadium bonds, and then it was deleted from the final bill.

De Beers Diamonds
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There’s also a recent boomlet of the NCAA players now demanding payment. Indeed, this is after the fact that full-ride scholarships for the barely literate are not treated as taxable income. And lets not forget the issue of sexual access, perhaps sexual assault.

The NCAA itself is tax-exempt, which should be called into question. Remarkably, only a few athletic departments manage to turn a profit even though they can receive tax-deductible donations. Indeed we need to probably get rid of college athletics altogether, or else restrict it to the no-scholarships Ivy League model.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

In Canada, promising hockey players are drafted at 16 into a professional Junior League, where they are paid a small salary and are subject to being traded/waived/etc. They have academic responsibilities, but this “student athlete” nonsense isn’t really a thing.

There’s also certain demographic differences that you can probably guess.

De Beers Diamonds
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A bit late, but look in this twtr thread, its all these blacks complaining that “white coaches and administrators” are making money by oppressing the poor black athletes. I wish I could show so many Boomer conservatives how much these athletes and their alma mater hate them. Stop donating. Turn off the television.

https://twitter.com/thomasqjones/status/1172877869468413953

c matt
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c matt

My understanding is the portion of “full ride” scholarship for room and board is taxable as income. Only the tuition, fees, books and supplies portion is not.

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To me, Kapernick was just a grain of sand in a whole shitload of sand that drove me away from the NFL and the NBA.

De Beers Diamonds
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The beginning of the end of my sports fandom was LeBron James calling Clevelanders racist when he left to play in Miami. In the process of leaving, he strong-armed the franchise into firing the coach and front office, lest he not re-sign. Which of course he was never planning to do. That’s called collusion, and its actionable. I suspect the NBA later rigged the draft as backdoor compensation. So when he came back, it never meant the same to me, of course I was a political dissident by then which certainly colored my expectations. And once he was gone again,… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Here’s a radical idea:

How about stop watching sports ENTIRELY.

Take the time you now suddenly have and go down to the gun range, read more books on warfare tactics…….. anything but watching completely overpaid grown men playing children’s games.

Too much too soon?

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

I stopped watching sports completely around 2001. A game has been on TV when I was at a family gathering such as Thanksgiving, but I did not watch it. I could not even name a player on any team pro or college.

Once upon a time I was a huge fan. Go Dolphins! Now? Piss on all of them.

robert smith
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Calsdad excellent suggestion.

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I said this here once before but breaking white men away from pro sports is probably the biggest single thing we could do to build a white identity. Sports creates a phony solidarity for one thing. I see this on display at a seedy factory I visit for work sometimes. Their workforce is mostly Mestizos, probably of questionable VISA status. There are still some white guys too though. There’s a TV in the cafeteria and when the game is on I see them all, whites and their replacements alike, quietly worshiping the electric Ju. If I bought into all that… Read more »

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That terrifies me. How I live now means I never have to bow to woke culture because I work alone in my own business I don’t watch TV or movies or sporting events. I thought Friendster was creepy when all my friends tried to get me to join so by the time Facebook came along I was immune to social media. I actually read very few books that are even written by living authors. I’m entirely removed from the culture. But I am afraid that one day the culture will come for me anyway. Everyday I tell myself to look… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

You have a wonderful perspective. What you’re doing is really the only path to freedom, contentment, and joy. Conformists like to suck the energy from free people … the dissident’s job is to deny the parasites a host.

One day the culture may come for us; in many ways that’s happening right now. Fear not … you’re not alone in this battle.

Exile
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Exile

Same here re: work. My level of personal engagement with clients is minimal and usually arms-length. I’m fortunate to work in a field where the work product largely speaks for itself and usually requires craft-level involvement rather than being “mass-produced” by macros, boilerplate language and Pajeet mimicry (ala (((LegalZoom))) etc.) If I hadn’t done this when I did, I would have crashed and burned years back.

Soverytired1
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Soverytired1

Rebellion against the system must begin with the young. Easy as it may be to say “Sign me up with a Social Credit Score ZERO!”, how many will actually do this? How many men with families to support, with decades invested in a progressive career path, and a very decent income would put it all at risk for a pig in a poke? Easier to submit to the poz, and hope for the best. And the water gets hotter, and the frog gets slowly boiled. Alas and Alack. To paraphrase, “You may be disgusted by the culture, but nowhere near… Read more »

Sean Detente
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Don’t flatter yourself, you don’t live in a vacuum. Nobody sane is capable of that; especially if you run your own shop.

robert smith
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you know what they say, you may not be interested in politics and war but politics and war are interested in you.

MBlanc46
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MBlanc46

“Moral dirty”? Slip of the pen? Or intended?

TomA
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TomA

The Dune novels present a similar analog to the emerging custodial state. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the tech giants are only too happy to facilitate the transition to the Brave New World. Their biggest fear is an armed revolt, and they are desperately looking for a politically feasible way to implement firearm confiscation as a preemptive remedy. But that is a fools errand. The next revolution will be fought with technology and stealth, not armed confrontation. It won’t be the mob that gets you, it will be the invisible shiv.

Exile
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Exile

Dune’s tripolar system of Empire, Guild & Sisterhood (Khash, Vaish & Brahms) was a good Campbell-scale take society’s persistent patterns. Even now, we have Military/Deep State/LEO’s, Wall Street & Cathedral. You’re on the money re: revolution. Truly ground-up national scale revos are unheard of, and the real levers of influence and power in our Empire are so centralized now that I don’t see mass-scale public involvement with any major power-shift. When the long knives come out, it will be Soviet-style, and we’ll only hear the New Bosses’ sanitized moralized version of the events afterward via the Cathedral they control. I’d… Read more »

Primi Pilus
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Primi Pilus

I don’t think you are right that firearms wouldn’t play a crucial part. Certainly such a conflict in the US would look very different from those in the past and the fictionalized imagery we have from past writers and movie-makers. Technology does and will play a large part, though perhaps more so in the early stages. But while modern man might be terrified by de-platforming and de-personing, I’m sure that the aversion to loss of one’s life is still more powerful, once the fog arising of post-modern delusion and cosseted Western life-cycle is stripped away.

TomA
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TomA

Firearms are vital for self defense (and subsistence hunting) during the chaos of the Brave New World, but not really that useful as a tool to defeat tyranny. Once upon a time, tyrants could hide effectively behind castle walls and a personal guard of mercenary thugs. But technology is a two-way street, and since tyrants have chosen to weaponize it against the innocent, what goes around comes around.

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

Since we can’t discuss how firearms could be used to defeat tyranny, then by default your point goes unchallenged and you win the argument.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Iraq and Afghanistan taught us the best way to tie up and neutralize a massive high tech military is to use guerilla warfare against them and their supporters.

A thousand pissed and smart men could turn the elites power bases – the blue hives into charnel houses simply by cutting power to them. The elites don’t have the man power nor the intelligence to combat such actions.

Look at the elites best men – Strzok, McCabe, Comey, Mueller. Hayden, Brennan, Clapper.. All 3rd tier types who got where they were on being yes men.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Two of the weaknesses of the Cloud People are (1) physical cowardice and (2) a lack of loyalty to one another.

We are in a low-level civil war which, I think, will get worse with assassinations, mass shootings, sabotage, etc.

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Felix_Krull

Before and during the games, there are mini-performances that “celebrate our democracy” or “celebrate our diversity.”

Fancy names for a troupe of burlesque dancers.

De Beers Diamonds
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The Pentagon also paid the NFL to promote the military.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/pentagon-paid-nfl-displays-patriotism/

Exile
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Exile

Diego sports teams are awful about this. With apologies to Z & Emerson, the quieter the fans, the louder they rattle the hardware. Sportsball season in SD County sees more overflights than Syria.

De Beers Diamonds
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The average conservative eats this up, and never questions where it comes from. Meanwhile, the players on the field hate the fans; the increasingly POC military is anti-white, and Poz is being forced into the military by the direction of cuckolded Generals like Petraeus and Mattis.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Exile- I went to a Padres game recently. Can confirm.

Dutch
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Dutch

I too recently went to my first Padres game in many years. The stadium video screens and canned noise seemed to be about 95% of the deal.

Exile
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Exile

In a better time it would be a perfect stadium, still my favorite venue in SoCal. We’ll have to work a meet-up there sometime & edge-post the normies. The surrounding area isn’t Hollyweird-tier pozzed but still plenty to mock there over muh drank after the Madres lose 3-0 as usual. For extra Lagos flava, catch them when muh Dodgers are doing one of their seasonal drive-by’s.

Dutch
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Dutch

Used to sell beer at a concession stand at Petco years ago, right after it opened. Dodger fans were a bit rough, but the Giants fans were the most bad-tipping condescending and whiny essholes of all, by far. They were all white, too.

Exile
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Exile

They are also the worst-behaved fans when in LA.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

I won’t go to Doyer Stadium- don’t want to get stabbed.

Dutch
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Dutch

Exile, meet up at a game is a good idea.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

A culture is often thought to be balanced and stable when labor, business, and state are in moral lockstep, when they share a common religion. But that’s not the case, because what if those morals agitate against reality, natural law, and “Providence?” To my mind, it all depends on the prevailing worldview on which cultural morals are based. The humanist religion, prevalent since the late-19th century, doesn’t have a great track record in bringing peace and justice to its people, or even espousing an intelligible rationale for peace and justice. Morals make absolutely no sense in a mechanistic, naturalist religion… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Z sets the Objectivist devil in my gut rumbling with the concepts of a “servile” or a “custodial” state. She’s still in there, down deep – the habits of 3 decades are hard to unlearn. “Today, your employer believes they own the whole you, even the parts of your life outside of your work.” Contra libertarians, the only way to prevent this total patrician dominance of proles is to use collective prole-power and influence against the employers, but after decades of Red-Blue, many of us on the Right are still unable to conceive of collective action as anything but evil.… Read more »

The Babe
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The Babe

Libertarianism and liberalism add up to a sort of political eunuchism, whose central tenet is, “no matter what they do to you, don’t fight back.”

Not only do we have to fight back, we have to smash down the evil people doing these things. Otherwise we’re going to be up against the wall–figuratively then literally. You really think that something about human nature has changed in the last hundred years, such that the terrors of the 20th century won’t be repeated?

Exile
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Exile

The FTN guys call this “tactical libertarianism.” It’s deployed by the intellectual interference-runners like French & Shapiro to lock you into defense mode. “Leave us alone, hands-off” is not an agenda. The side pushing a positive agenda always wins at least incrementally in that fight because laissez-faires never look to gain ground. Z’s citation of “positive obligations” today is very important. A truly symbiotic relationship between rulers and ruled requires the elites to deliver positive good for the proles, not just a “level playing field,” because our internal and external competition is playing to win, not stay even.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

“no matter what they do to you, don’t fight back.”

That was certainly not the way of Rothbard or the rest of us. Right wing populism goes hand in hand with “I hate the State in all it incarnations”.

You must be talking about the “beltway libertarians” who are about as useful as the “Conservatives”. Cucks all.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

It was chilling to see the Cubs fan at Wrigley Field receive a lifetime ban earlier this season. While Doug Granville, a black man was reporting next to the stands, a fan behind him flashed the OK sign with his fingers. Cubs ownership assumed his gesture meant “white supremacy,” not something like the “circle game,” or simply “A-Okay.” They acted swiftly and decisively and gave those of us paying attention a glimpse into what’s coming next.

De Beers Diamonds
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The Cubs ownership is closely tied with GOP politics, one of them is the current Governor of Nebraska. There was a scandal earlier this year when we found out that one of the family is a realtalker.

So they do this to cover their ass. The franchise wants the city to cough up money for renovations, and as the team of the white-collar North side, they run the very real risk of an SJW boycott.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/cubs-tom-ricketts-joe-ricketts-racist-emails-controversy/

Rogeru
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Rogeru

The emails aren’t even racist.

De Beers Diamonds
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Remember that NBA owner who got banned because of saying bad words when secretly recorded by his mistress?

MLB also banned a backup catcher for speaking against Black Lives Matter.

They did nothing much there because Muslims aren’t as powerful as Jews are in this country.

grandee
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grandee

Oligopolies are prevalent throughout the world and appear to be increasing ever so rapidly. Unlike a monopoly, where one corporation dominates a certain market, an oligopoly consists of a select few companies having significant influence over an industry. Common Industries Overshadowed By Oligopolies Cable Television Services Entertainment (Music and Film) Airlines Mass Media Pharmaceuticals Computers & Software Cellular Phone Services Smart Phone and Computer Operating Systems Aluminum and Steel Oil and Gas Automobiles example: media outlets owned by six corporations: Walt Disney (DIS), Time Warner (TWX), CBS Corporation (CBS), Viacom (VIAB), NBC Universal, and News Corporation (NWSA). music entertainment industry… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Scale, scale, scale 1000x scale. I’m a total Kunstler on this. The only way any actual competition can exist, much lest manifest benefits, or Hayek’s infamous “knowledge problem” can be mitigated, is to decentralize and localize interests. Still doesn’t solve everything, but it at least gives control-bent oligarchs a fairer share of the logistical problems.

Alter Kocker
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Alter Kocker

Yes, scale.
And to fully understand scale, you have to read Smil.
http://vaclavsmil.com/

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Basically Chesterton’s Distributism. Middle-Class Bourgeoisie Values and Attitudes.

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Well, you don’t have to have geniuses for boards and execs of the top companies to decide, “Listen, if there’s only one of us, the government will break us up, but if there’s two or three of us, we can pretty much do whatever we want and make money hand over fist….”

William Williams
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William Williams

Hot news item: Chicken-of-the-Sea, StarKist and Bumblebee recently pled out to price fixing the US tuna market.

Not only that, but there’s gambling in the back room at Rick’s Cafe….

John Smith
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Well… I see a few minor problems for our aspiring overlords. When they send out wammin and queers to impose order – everyone politely pays lip service and then leaves. Most of those high profile churches that went queer or feminist back in the day are now closed. Alt Tech is just rubbing their palms together with glee and smirking like Shylock at the thought of an SJW assault on OyTube. Hate sites like this one are proliferating and gaining traction. As the NRx fellas note… holiness spirals only end one way. When I was banished from my family it… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Power based entirely on Talmudic morality and intellectual witchery is ephemeral. In a rock, paper, coinage struggle, rock always wins if the Kshatriya keeps his frame. A man who no longer cares if he’s “right” or “wrong” by enemy standards and can’t be bought can only be out-rocked. The dangerous game our Cathedral and Wall Street elites are playing ultimately ends with an Attila winning. If that’s how things turn it most likely won’t play out as some ground-up Turner Diaries revolt, ala WN 1.0 & 2A LARPers. It will be class-traitors within their own ranks who see the chance… Read more »

Anna
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Anna

Did you ever read Talmud? Please provide an example of a negative Talmud morality together with the book and page #.

Exile
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Exile

Readers can look at Andrew Joyce’s pieces at The Occidental Observer, Guyenot’s books and articles at Unz Review, and a few dozen other sources referenced therein.

You’re not going to bog me down with Talmudry over how many goyim are dancing on the heads of which pins – it’s Saturday and some of us work on weekends.

Anna
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Anna

Your reply is hearsay about hearsay. There are also articles about Christian blood used in Passover matzoh. It’s called blood libel.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Anna, are gentile whites allowed to have states that serve their interests in the same way that Israel serves J3wish interests?

Anna
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Anna

Not only allowed but have a clear understanding that it might be the only way for people to survive as a nation. White American Christians have provided a best shelter to the Jews in the 2000 yrs history of exile.
If it does not work for one side any longer a dialog should be started about problems. Hard to see that dialog proceding in any civilised fashion in the present political atmosphere.
By the way one of the reason of hatred toward Israel (besides usual anti-semitism) is inability to force them to open their borders like Europe and America under Obama did.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Do you support immigration restriction for the USA and European countries? Would you stand against the majority of your tribe in this cause?

Anna
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Anna

Not would but did. Most of Russian Jews, including myself, who joined major Jewish organizations left them. Majority of these organizations pander to questionable Muslims and call it “diplomacy”.
Israelis and American Jews are becoming 2 different nations with the majority of Russian-American Jews being on the side of Israelis.
Trump’s approval rating in Israel is 80-90%.
Of course long Jewish history saw such splits quite a few times before.
Old Testament will tell you so.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I appreciate talking with you. (No sarcasm.)

Anna
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Anna

Same here

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Haven’t read it, but I did parse it once…will that do?

Vegetius
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Vegetius

I don’t give a shit what he says. Talmud can fight his own wars for a change.

Lineman
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Lineman

Let’s work on being Attila then😉

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

What happened in your family happens large scale to any revolutionary movement. Different factions will join forces against a common enemy. Once they vanquish their enemy, they’ll turn on each other. The French Revolution, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and the Iranian theocracy come to mind. Even early Christianity was a revolutionary movement that after it gained sufficient power in the Roman Empire persecuted first pagans and finally heretics. There are two ideas that unite the Left and the Democratic Party: They’re warring tribes in the common pursuit of plunder and hatred of Whites. In the absence of Whites, they’ll… Read more »

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Speaking as a white, I’d rather us not all be absent.

Michaeloh
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Michaeloh

How much hatred of whitey is from authentic low sexual market value losers, the true believers, the unhinged useful idiots like antifa- and the machiavellian Koch Bros and their tools who finance, manage, and train the useful idiots because destroying the white middle class is the path to regain their rightful and meritorious domination of society?

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“Passivity will not be tolerated.”

I think that’s an underrated point. Going all the way back at least to Henry VIII, the intent was not merely to make you shut up with your speaking, it was to make you positively assent to things you might not believe. It wasn’t good enough for Thomas More to say, “Look, I’ll keep my mouth shut on who your wife is.” No, he had to positively say he agreed with the king when he did not.

He couldn’t bring himself to do it. The vast majority could.

Ruan
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Ruan

Thomas More got a taste of his own medicine. The Catholic church was not tolerant of indifference to Catholicism.

The Babe
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The Babe

Unfortunately, the Devil in this new religion is an actual living group of people, namely, us. It’s going to get to the point where white people are going to have to cultivate something like the Islamic concept of “taqiya” (dissimulation, lying), whereby your group has moral license to lie to outsiders. Then we can give lip service to the totalitarian left-wing religion if necessary to stay employed, but still keep the truth clear in our own minds and with a clear conscience. Of course, that will take a very clear sense of our own identity. Unfortunately, a lot of weak-minded… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

I live in California and work in the belly of the Borg. Taqiyya is a way of life every day for me.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Ditto behind the American Iron Curtain in NY..though there are far more dissenters than the Borg realizes.

Another Dave
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Another Dave

Many more dissenters than the Borg realizes. Many, many people see the hypocrisy and even ridiculousness of it all, but keep silent out of self interest and self preservation.

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

Who cares if there are more dissenters? Does a wolf care what a rabbit thinks?

tonaludatus
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tonaludatus

I do not believe that you can blame this prevailing idiocy on Lenin or Trotsky or Stalin; our “betters” may be brutal creeps but Bolshevik they are not

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

New action Bolsheviks they are! My parents were Trots up through the 50’s. Since the Commie Revolution, Commies learned how to shape shift the look of original communism and shape shift the language….continuously. This is not the Communism of my daddy. But it is the dogged determination of commies that then took it to the Frankfurt School and the familiar names of such, on and on up through Alinsky, who gave birth to The Hildabeast and Hussein O. Not to mention Marxism all around the globe became Local i.e. African Marxism, Central and South American Marxism, South Asian and dozens… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Secular ideology really does take the place of religion (poorly) for those who give up reaching inside and outside themselves for more. Their willingness to constantly push for change, two steps forward, is why they win in any battle against cons & “tactical libertarians.” The anti-leftists always start with the status quo as their opening offer in any cultural negotiation, with a bottom line of one step back, calling the final result a “victory” merely because the left only notched the needle one more peg toward Babylon. FWIW, I think there’s an important place for environmentalism (think conservation, hunters &… Read more »

Soverytired1
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Soverytired1

(Repeat..oops)

Exile
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Exile

That’s why having kids and educating them right are Jobs One & Two. We’re the guys defending the site and laying the foundations. We won’t see the cathedral completed. That’s for the grandkids or later absent the hand of Fate or God.

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Right on the mark! And the “spiritual” overlay is clearly based on secular humanism and civic nationalism, obviously meant to supplant the organic spiritual traditions of nations in favor of those that support the transnational oligarchy of “wokedom.”

Yves Vannes
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“The Chinese communists are far too practical to worry about the spiritual well-being of their people. They do worry about their social cohesion, especially in difficult times.”

The more our “spiritual guides” stick it to YT the less social cohesion they will get…yes, many will bend the knee but enough won’t.

There’s no pot of gold at the end of the diversity rainbow. The custodial state is held together by gadgets and weak men.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Not only is it held together by gadgets and weak men, it has no value, the entire system is a net-taker. A large part of our out of control public debt is part of this expensive system. It needs money, lots of it, and all the time.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

There’s nothing new about this system, except for it to work, the managerial elite can’t hate the people they manage. What’s been happening over the last 20 years is an active hatred of the unwashed masses. Today it’s vaping. Those stupid beasts of the field are ruining their lungs, so we need a set of complex regulations surrounding glycol based products. And they’ll do it, complete with taxes. If you follow the money the “public interest” lobbies, taken together are a vast industry. With the new vaping regulations, you will then need a set of consultants, making hundreds of dollars… Read more »

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Come on, JR. Anyone who actually drives while intoxicated is grossly irresponsible. They shouldn’t have to pay MADD as part of their sentence, but they need to be corrected in no uncertain terms.

I don’t know anything about vaping (never tried it) and maybe the anti-vaping campaign is another virtue crusade. Still society ought to be cautious about this kick until scientific evidence builds.

Your first paragraph hits the mark.

billrla
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billrla

Gravity Denier: Scientific evidence? You mean, the kind of evidence generated by “research” funded by government and conducted by academics who get all their funding from federal grants, while working a universities that thrive on federal funding and government-backed student loans? That kind of scientific evidence? Nope, I don’t think so.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

billrla, No, I don’t mean that kind of scientific evidence. A lot of science has been perverted (e.g., the Global Warming priesthood) but I’m not ready to completely abandon the scientific method.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

MADD cares about drunk driving the way Planned Parenthood cares about “women’s health.” I’m not saying it’s good to swerve and hit people on the road, although the movie Cannonball isn’t that bad. I’m saying that most of these goodie-two-shoes organizations, many now a half century or a century old, are morally bankrupt cash registers for a crowd of people and need to be called out in a big way. As far as vaping, if glycol killed people we would have known it decades ago. A teenager buys some seedy Chinese vaping product in Chinatown, scars his lungs, and now… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

MADD is now just a bunch of modern day Prohibitionists attached to a modern cause to give their empty lives meaning. I suspect the leaders have some monetary interest as well. Every year, in every State, they push for lower and lower BAC’s for presumptive DUI arrests. Here the latest push is for .06 or .04 on the breathalyzer. This would make most folk liable to arrest with a single beer imbibed. Most accidents however involve folk exceeding this level by two to three times! Indeed, after every holiday, they publish the stat’s wrt to folks who are caught up… Read more »

Judge Smails
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Judge Smails

Do they still have the drive-thru daiquiri shops in Louisiana?

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Oh yes, at least in Cajun Country. At the most popular you can choose between 32oz or a full gallon.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Did I write anything that could be read as defending MADD? I don’t like those self-righteous fanatics, but drunken driving is not a “necessary evil” that liberty needs to tolerate.

happy merchant
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happy merchant

He didn’t say anything about not punishing drunk drivers, just that they shouldn’t have to pay tribute to a bunch of rent-seeking harpies.

If we really wanted to cut down on drunk driving we could build walkable cities instead of suburban hellscapes and require bars to breathalyze customers before they leave the premises (inb4 “muh personal responsibility”)

I agree wrt vaping though. Those products were promoted as a safer alternative to smoking as soon as they were invented. If I were interested in vaping, I’d want to see some longitudinal studies first.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Ha! Wirth, scandalous! Licentuous!
What about the CHIRREN

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

It’s always about the children isn’t it? I ended up with a lawn dart in my leg in the 80s, they were banned a year later. It was a character building experience, and I learned something about sharp objects and playing according to instructions. All the world is a sharp object.

Donald Cavaioli
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MADD and other activist groups, NGOs and the like didn’t spring up nowhere and acquire the power they have all on their own. There was no coup d’eta, no active revolution by force. They had the support of the political establishment which in turn was supported by their constituents. So in the end, it was the majority of we the people who either actively supported these things or passively supported it by not taking a stand. Dissidents are a marginalized minority viewed as fools by the peasant majority. Nobody imposed the managerial/custodial state on us, it was by the consent… Read more »

Cerulean
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Cerulean

“Nobody imposed the managerial/custodial state on us, it was by the consent and even full throated support of our fellow citizens…”

This involved quite a bit of subversion, with true goals masked, along with a lot of bait and switch.

Compsci
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Compsci

It was sold as they are always sold on a foundation of lies and distortions. The laws are always promised as solutions and the worse case scenarios scoffed at. Too many sociopathic politicians and stupid voters. So here we are.

Donald Cavaioli
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What subversion? Pardon this off topic digression. Everything that grandfatherly old huckster and his brain trust did, they did out in full view of the public and lambasting all critics as servants of the plutocrats who not only created the depression but for some reason wanted the depression to continue. These contemporary critics of presidential and executive branch overreach included H.L. Mencken, Garet Garrett and even former gov. of NY, Al Smith among others. And the critics were heard through newspapers and magazines across the country. But the majority of proles couldn’t get enough of their Glorious Leader making them… Read more »

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Fair points. But given the mood of the country at the time and the ravages of the Depression, it’s possible that FDR’s federal government interventionism prevented a full-strength socialist turn.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

and so descends the Zman, into the fever swamps. which I applaud. you will be the new Faulkner of the anti-system. so what happens once the U.S. goes full totalitarian? all of a sudden we are now best buds with the Eu+Russia, and the PRC? Or is that a maximally unstable arrangement of power? these systems are always parasitic; without a host, what happens? like a flea without a dog, they wither and die. just like venezuela is doing. the only question i would like answered, is will the new Borg tolerate pockets of free living people; in the mountains… Read more »

Vegetius
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Vegetius

O/t : Guns of September? Just reading the reporting on this dronestrike against the House of Saud’s oil infrastructure. Big if true. Real big. The Shia Houthi have been hitting Saudi Arabia with drones provided by Iran for the past four or five months. For the past six weeks or so, a few people who are supposed to know about war have been saying that the Kingdom has lost this one. Which means that Mohammad bin Salman, the man who would be king, has a disaster on his hands. From my window, the best path forward for the Saudis is… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

That would explain Trump’s recent thawing of the rhetoric against Iran. The Donald does not stand pat on a losing hand, he finds a plan B.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

“Passivity will not be tolerated.” I was required to attend a 2 hour “Diversity and Inclusion” training session at work recently. While we were “encouraged to participate” in discussions it wasn’t required.

It’s easy to imagine that the next time I am forced to attend, the training will include, “List the 5 actions you have taken to promote diversity or dismantle white privilege,” and you will be graded on the enthusiasm of your response.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

At the executive level “what have you done to promote diversity” is a standard screen candidates have to get past.

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At my old shop “Pro Actively Developing Diversity” was 10pc of each managers job goals. This started over 15 years ago.

HamburgerToday
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HamburgerToday

Fantastic essay. Quickly and succinctly summarizes the emerging paradigm. I especially appreciate the distinction between the Chinese ‘defensive’ approach and Woke Capital’s ‘offensive’ approach.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

O/T, but next year, if any committee of correspondence needs a discrete message carrier or postman, this unworthy one travels coast to coast every week.

I pick my own routes, and go everywhere. Currently LA to Long Island, or SF to New England. Never a leader, but always a liason.

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There will be a revival in face to face meeting and or communication. In addition techniques used in the past via the postal system will find much use. It is very easy to tap the convenient means of communication such as email text and the like. not so easy to check all the physical pieces of mail and like correspondence.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Today, the spiritual is the domain of corporate giants. So-called “woke capital” is an effort to impose an official morality on the public. … Woke capital not only has economic and legal duties. It has spiritual duties, as well. I’ve done some traveling lately, and this is precisely one of the things I’ve noticed. Hotels take advantage of their captive audience (you can’t switch off the signs they post) to preach virtue. Save the earth by reusing your towels. See those two separate compartments in the (tiny) wastebaskets in your room? Recycle! Turn off the lights when you leave the… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

The (very pozzed) Atlantic magazine published an interesting article about “woke” culture. It came out last October, and is titled “Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture”. Ignoring for a moment that huge numbers of people vote for PC culture, the author breaks down what people really think. What was found was that the Progressive thing, what the author labels as “progressive activists”, constitute 8% of the population. Moreover, most of them are white, highly educated, and make a lot of money. Very few are of color. The other 92%, running the range from traditional liberal and all the way from there,… Read more »

Cerulean
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Cerulean

” People need to see that we are overlorded by a tiny minority of people.”

This is an important point. summarizing an important post.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Zman has stated that the Cloud People constitute only about 10% of the population. That’s close.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Excellent analysis.

And this particular demographic goes out of it’s way to hide itself to how you put it make us believe the Poz is brought on by the public at large when it isn’t.

One thing is for sure, the 8% will have to be dealt with if we ever hope to have a sane and healthy country.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

It won’t end well for them.

Dutch
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Dutch

Ris, of course they generally depend on our good and forgiving nature, and when their gig is over and accountings are to be made, they will attempt to say “so sorry”, and shuffle off to try a new angle of attack another day.

Lars
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Lars

“Those are all the places staffed by the highly educated whites, who make a lot of money. This is 8% of the population, that’s all….” “… it is about protecting the gigs of the rich white woke people, the 8%, who protect their sinecures…” How about the rich, highly educated jews who make a lot of money? You know… rich jewish woke people who protect their sinecures and have invaded all the key nodes of power. The Atlantic article insists that we all understand this culpable minority is privileged White people. This is a typical misdirection of culpability IMO by… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Lars, I think you are falling into a trap of a different sort. Around this joint, we define Jews as something other than white. The broader culture does not, in part, due to unwitting support of their protective coloration. I am taking a blind guess that many, if not most, of American Jews fall into that 8% group, but they are not the only ones. It doesn’t really matter if the part of the 8% destroying your community is Jewish, atheist, Christian, or, say, Baha’i. Calling out subsets of the 8% is a sort of “look, a squirrel”. The broader… Read more »

Member

“Your participation in the company multicultural celebration will go a long way to determining your social credit score, not just your position within the firm.”

I’ve seen this already. In government. My experience is in DoD.

Guest
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Every major national or international law firm in the US has also adopted this model. If you want to make partner and progress in your career as a partner you must be actively supporting and promoting the firm’s diversity agenda. A vote against handing partnership to a woman, open homosexual, or a non-Asian minority is a career-ending move. If you’re a good attorney with a good book of business you’ll be allowed to stay, but will go no farther up the ladder. If you’re without your own book of business you’ll be out in a year or two.

Compsci
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Compsci

Perhaps, but why would a law firm vote in a partner who did not produce $$$ for the firm. Or at least vote more than a token of such folk. Every dollar they take is one less in the pot to distribute among the productive?

Guest
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Because the Borg demands it. If your firm does not have strong and consistently improving improving diversity numbers every year you will not be allowed to bid for work from federal, state, or many governments, DoD contractors, and most Fortune 100 companies. Diversity compliance audits, you know.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

Take a look around you. Not pretty is it? We have been headed to where we are at in the US since the very beginning. When the Articles of Confederation was overturned in the first coup, we got the Constitution which was designed for an Empire. Subtle, but the power was inherent in it all along to crush the unwashed masses. Some idiots on the right blame everything bad on the Boomers. Others blame Jews. Others blame Russia. There has never been a State that did not become ever more overbearing as it grew and gained strength. The real enemy… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

The ruling document is influential but not decisive. It’s the people who inhabit the country. There is no more important decision than deciding who gets to live in your country. We Americans were naive and inattentive.

Max Schumacher
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Max Schumacher

Spot on

TTT
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TTT

I see the future. At a Super Bowl halftime diversity extravaganza, you better not be the first one to stop clapping.

TomA
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TomA

Zman’s prescience is spooky. One of the websites that I routinely visit was de-platformed last night in the middle of a session. Me thinks the beast is getting a little anxious.

Member

Not only will we have to stand for the Anthem of Wokeness, but we will also be monitored to make sure we are singing, too.

Enthusiastically.

Member

Your very life could depend on proper wokeness. See the WSJ op-ed (paywall) from September 12, “Take Two Aspirin and Call Me by My Pronouns”

Also the New England Journal of Medicine “Perspectives.”

Not only do the Frenchies not see that, as in the Middle Ages, the Church ruled alongside the state, but also that the new church of the woke religion, the corporation, is perfectly capable of turning over heretics to the “secular arm” for punishment.

Dr ExCathedra
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Dr ExCathedra

To add a moment in this process. When the US enacted the 1964 Civil Rights Act it solidified the transformation of the State into the State-as-Church. The Federal Government claimed ownership and control of what has clearly become the lodestone and foundational moral matter: anti-discrimination, first and continuingly most dominantly on race, and then to the downstream identities of gender, sexuality, sexual identity, disability, migrant status, etc. With the exception of some increasingly half-hearted and insignificant foot dragging by the Catholic Church on abortion, all the Christian Churches have become voluntary vassals to the new Papacy in Washington. Once which,… Read more »

Shrugger
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Shrugger

Don’t be the first one to stop clapping for Comrade Stalin.

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Somewhat OT: A news site I visit had a promoted link to the AARP with a picture of a confused looking older lady and the caption:

OLDER PEOPLE OFTEN DON’T RECOGNIZE SEXUAL HARASSMENT

I really don’t get how there can be unrecognized sexual harassment. Isn’t that sort of like unfelt shame?

Ivar
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Ivar

All of these ambitious plans will require coordination and control at a level which is not sustainable, or even possible. Since it doesn’t appear that many are willing to take up the gun, or do much of anything at all, the best option is to disengage.

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

Think most people just pay lip service to political correctness. One enterprising minority working at a government building had a large number of cheap one page calendars printed out when the first black family moved into the Oval Office. Clearly it only cost a dollar or two to make them, but she went around selling them for $10 a piece. It became a running joke because they were plastered all over the building. Buy one or else ! :-b There’s a groundswell of opposition against the propaganda. The election of President Trump has scared the crap out of them. Hence… Read more »