The End Of Gynocracy

A decade ago, the Cloud People celebrated the fact that for the first time in history, women were the majority of the workforce. Not only were women the majority of workers, they were the majority of managers. They were also the majority on the college campus. Women have been the majority of college graduates for over a decade and now outnumber men in advanced degrees. It is not unreasonable to say that we are now celebrating the first full decade of the gynocracy.

Of course, the celebrating is being done from inside closets and under beds, as the world hides from the virus. America is not just run by women; it is now run by overprotective schoolmarms. Social distancing is just the latest thing in a world now run by childless women. On-line, the harpies have been demanding males with the wrong ideas be social distanced right off the internet. The great purging of dissident voices from social media was a dry run for social distancing.

If you think about it, the timeout has now become the go-to move from the gynocrats in charge of our culture. If you use the wrong word or phrase on social media, you get put in timeout for 12-hours. If you repeat the error, you end up in detention. Since the gynocrats have replaced the parents, there’s no parent conference for those who can’t conform to the rules. Instead, you are relegated to the trailers out back, which for the internet means setting up an account on Gab or Telegram.

This is just one reality of the world run by women. Since women have come to dominate the workplace, the fastest growing parts of the economy are those where women have the dominant position. For example, while STEM jobs get outsourced to barbarians, either imported from tribal areas or through outsourcing, health care, which is dominated by women, has been booming. Tech workers have seen declining wages, but registered nurses have seen their wages grow.

Of course, the feminization of society has been hardest on the working classes, as the jobs for working class men are replaced by jobs for women. The rise in death from despondency has been acute among working class males. A man with no way to support a family, relegated to living off a woman, has no reason to live. Inevitably, drugs, alcohol and eventually suicide become the answer. The white death that has afflicted our people is not all that different than what happened to the Indians.

The middle-class males have not escaped the ravages of the gynocracy. We’re onto at least the second generation of middle-class males raised by women in a female dominated society. The process began with the liberalization of divorce, which spread through the middle-class like a plague in the 70’s and 80’s. By the 1990’s, the feminization of America life was well underway. We’re onto our second generation of young middle-class males raised to live in the gynocracy.

You see it in marriage and dating. With scrambled sex roles, the males are ill-equipped to play their role, so they are less marriage worthy to females. On the other hand, men instinctively suspect a career woman will be a poor mother and mate. The subsequent drop in marriage and fertility is hardly a surprise. For the young men in the gynocracy, life is a bachelor’s ball on-line, punctuated by mock battles in video games and mock intimacy in the form of pornography.

As an aside, this is why someone like Richard Spencer was so appealing to young men in the alt-right days. He is the non plus ultra of gynocritic male. He is reckless, feckless and irresponsible, but immune to the consequences. Mom is always there to make everything better. He is the perpetual adolescent, unable to care for himself, but always in rhetorical revolt against the gynocracy. As a result, many young middle-class white males saw him as the ultimate expression of themselves.

For young women, the gynocracy offers a short-term elixir of a career, independence and power over her personal life. By middle-age, the elixir wears off and it means a lifetime of lonely nights being an on-line harpy or one-night stand. Many women escape the clutches of feminism to marry and have children, but in the gynocracy, it still means a career, because they have to support the husband and family. They get to pay the price for upper middle-class women feeling empowered.

Of course, feminism has been hard hit by the rise of the gynocracy. The purpose of feminism for close to a century was to give homely women a reason to feel good about themselves. In a world where women are made hideous on the inside by the pointlessness of their existence, but given power over society, feminism has had to find a new audience. In the gynocracy, feminism is now the domain for those born insane, rather than those driven mad by the prevailing reality.

That may be the light at the end of the tunnel. Increasingly, women are seeing the disaster that is modern life for what it is. The slow flowering of traditional women living life as traditional wives and mothers is a little green shoot. Despite the bellowing from the media, Trump remains quite popular with married women. The contempt in which these women are held by the gynocrats suggests this is the Achilles heel. The end of the gynocracy is single women seeing a mom playing with her kids.

On the other hand, Aristophanes was surely right. Practical reality will break the gynocracy on the wheel of reality. The great lock-down is madness that will eventually force great changes. This hysterical response to the virus will force a lot of rethinking about practical matters, like the habit of outsourcing manufacturing to China and the outsourcing of child rearing to the state. This is what we may be witnessing in this great panic over the virus. it is the beginning of the end of the gynocracy.


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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
1 month ago

If you’ve ever worked in an office with an entirely female managerial staff, you’ve experienced a form of torture your grandfather never knew.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

what, were you a towel boy in a tug shoppe or something? I am asking for a friend…

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

A Fortune 500 Corporation in a standard office setting….sadly, most of them are this way these days.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Precisely. This Is a description of any Fortune 500 cube farm outside of IT.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  M. B. Lamar
1 month ago

Government …. oh my!!! You should see the inside workings of the VA …. the “males” who marinate there (non-medical or maintenance) have all gone woke. Interestingly, black men I knew when working there could still maintain a level of masculine behavior, due to special status. The rest of the biologically male there were holed up in their esoteric, isolated and encapsulated realms — specialists who don’t threaten the female power structure. Same culture now in place in organizations like Bureau of Land Management, where a former colleague reported (before decamping for a more tolerable arena) the power girls were… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  M. B. Lamar
1 month ago

And IT is full of Pajeet who will take credit for all your work and throw you under the bus as soon as he can so his cousin Raj can take your job.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Y2K-ish I worked briefly at an 8A tech firm, Chinese owned and many in IT. I guess they were good coders and (post Bell Curve) I concede they were smarter than me. But many of these were immigrants, and while you wouldn’t expect them to speak English well, as a sysadmin I did expect them to know some of the basics of the Unix operating system. But to be fair, neither was I a hot-shot C++ coder or whatever. In any event, I was not a good fit for this workaholic minnow in the tech world, so the incipient early… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Way to start off the conversation, Boomer-trope Karl. Odd that the self-appointed tone-police around here don’t consider this kind of gratuitious abuse something that “drives normal working men and women away from this site” or whinge about it being “vile.”

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

hey, i got 22 votes! a new personal best. why don’t you tell your mom on me, maybe she will want to spank me.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Me and a couple of the soys will beat him up by the teeter totters after school!

Errr.. boys. I meant “boys”!

Ah shit…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Yes Karl’s inveterate hostility is well, confession.

Even my worst rants have a point;
I want all of you to fight for the world we want; or a saner one.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I had a summer job (aka paid, 40 hours a week) at a major insurance company’s HQ back in the 80’s. The only male in an all female department, no one told me my first day also happened to be a “dress down day.” So I show up and my new boss is a middle-aged, meh looking female in giant read trouble glasses and a “Plato’s Retreat” sweatshirt. All of the other people in the unit were old females, and one young African American female. Now since I was 19, “old” might have put these grandmas at, say 40. So… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

In between high school and college I had a similar gig in the word processing department in a big accounting firm. Same group of middle aged hags but “supervised” by an old woman who was past retirement age and had been working there since 1955 (this was in 88). Same middle aged white women with a couple of older (token) black women. Same gibs mindset of spreading out the work as long as possible and a lot of complaining about “extra” stuff that had to be done quickly to ensure they were appreciated. Got a lot of reading done at… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
1 month ago

Where I was is still a major insurance company with a recognized name. There were two guys that worked the mail room. One, a WW2 combat veteran, built a wall with cases of copy paper – between him and the flamer on the other side. And made it clear, said flamer “better not cross….” So I am new on the job and said flamer, a black guy with a lisp, and wearing a pink suit – cannot make that shit up, does the one arm in the elevator door, steps in seeing me in their alone. He proffers a business… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

Our flamer was the same way and would color match his outrageous suits down to the socks and shoes. He was absolutely shameless in his flamingness. There was a white guy who was a homosexual working in the same job as the black guy and he did everything he could to hide it. Because he had a work ethic, he basically had to do both of their jobs.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

That story is hilarious. The WWII combat veteran made me think of my deceased dad. For his generation, the worse thing that a man could be was a “draft dodger” and the second was a “fag.” The Office Services flamer was a walking talking stereotype come to life. When obvious homosexuals first appeared on screen, they were portrayed as lisping, limp-wristed dandies. Nowadays, the narrative is that gay men are the same as straight men, except that their romantic proclivities extend to men. Your experience shows how stereotypes become stereotypes to begin with.

Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

I lived in San Francisco during outbreak of AIDS. My wife had two gay-guy girl friends so I learned there were entire subsets of gays. Queens, GQ dudes, Rough Ride (biker wannabes), etc.

That was way more info than I needed so I moved.

Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

It used to be you could punch a flamer in the nose.

John
John
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

always take the money and run, and never argue.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Women instinctively feel contempt for men they can dominate and boss around.

Trojan House
Trojan House
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I’m living it! My boss is a woman. Her boss is a woman and her boss is a woman. Thankfully, her boss is a man and the CEO is a man. I work in broadcasting where I can bet dollars to donuts that there are more women now employed than men. However, the women are usually never in the technical roles. They are usually reporters, PAs, associate producers, producers, supervising producers, etc., therefore, they are determining the editorial content. Hence, we get what we pay for in the media today.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Trojan House
1 month ago

I used to work in television news and it was beginning to be skewed feminine back in the 1980s. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like now.

Member
Reply to  Trojan House
1 month ago

My wife and I both work for non-profits. There are no actual businesses in Portland except for weed shops and bars. The few that start here eventually move to less communist parts of the NW like Washington or Idaho. Thankfully I work away from the office in one of those roles the women don’t care for. Occasionally I have to drive into town and do something at the office. In both our office and my wife’s even I was actually a bit surprised and kept thinking “where the hell are all the men?”. I seriously wonder sometimes what jobs the… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Every Big Law office, ever. Senior partners who can’t find their keys without muh secretary – and the secretaries know it. Look at the membership of the American Association of Legal Administrators, or whatever they call that sewing-circle nowadays. And I’ll guarantee the tiny minority of men therein are Stonewall-tier ghey.

It was an absolute hell until I found Heartiste (PBUH) and muh freedom.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Boomer senior partners deliberately installed bitter women and limpwrists as an impenetrable protective layer between themselves and ambitious GenX like me. Everything we did was cataloged by admin and support for later reporting and use by the seniors against us when it came to be promotion or cull time. I made the grade but couldn’t maintain my sanity living in KGB-like territory and founded my own firm together with other GenX. Nobody in our firm will follow you into the bathroom stalls to monitor your habits and also slide his foot underneath, tap away and whistle a solicitation.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

Good for you going out on your own. As an attorney, I found it either cat food or caviar, but it is doable. The independence is exhilarating.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

I have built 4 companies over the years, mentored others, mentoring one of my young adult children now in one.

As a 4th generation entrepreneur, I sometimes wonder if it is nature or nurture. All different businesses, and maybe even more generations as the furthest documentation back is mid 1800’s, my great grandfather owned a dairy farm in a European country. His son came here, another stayed there.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Having an outside social life’s from law is a big plus – the fishbowl mentality a lot of guys get – or worse yet, lawyers in love who both socialize almost exclusively with other esquires – is smothering.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

I worked as a outside man at a company where there was an office management foof that pulled this shit – kept records such as, “so and so arrived at 8:04 today instead of 8:00.” He was the liar’s liar – always accused others of “lying”. Although he was not my direct superior, I saw what he pulled on my buddies and also had to have some direct interactions with him – he was massively inept and I never ratted this fool out. So along comes a guy with special skills. Said management guy pulls this ‘documenting’ bullshit on wrong… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

This happens in every organization. The sociopaths at the top place a layer of clueless in between. The clueless are the true believers, while the sociopaths loot the organization for all its worth to them.

One guy calls it “The Gervais Principle”
https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

Heh. Chicago, i came along when the Boomers were starting to realize they will never have ‘senior partner’ workloads unless they kept a few of us around. And, ya know, they have to staff all the work coming in. Of course, Obama inflation means everyone jumps up and over every 12-24 months. What with the great culling of the Great Recession, keeping non-baby lawyers around is now the struggle. So rejoice, your old nemises are getting their own back, good and hard.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

If you’re not a beta orbiter don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it 🙂

Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I managed to work for 38 years and never have a female boss or any female in my management chain except for a few summer jobs at hospitals as a high school and college student. I am truly blessed.

David_Wright
Member
1 month ago

I hope your prediction is correct, this feminine rule or supremacy has to end. As an old guy i find many young men hard to relate to and feel uncomfortable to be around. Working class guys with skills not so much.

What an abomination of nature to see female rule and control everywhere. From Scandinavia, New Zealand, Canada and just less so in the rest of the West. Hopefully something good comes out of the current crisis to finally start to remedy this. It’s INSANE!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  David_Wright
1 month ago

You know that the difference is? Most of those working class guys with skills had fathers around (hence where the skills were acquired).

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Meme, I am sure thats part of it. But I think a lot of it has to do with actual work. Labor is good for the soul. We are meant to work, to produce, build, create. Men who toil in the physical space are grounded in reality, subject to the natural order of things, be it gravity and the necessity of accurate angles, or simply the deep satisfaction of visible and tangible results of their efforts. Men need a sense of purpose. Physical-based labor is the straightest line. Conversely, in the modern gynocracy, the bugmen are perpetually adrift in conflicting… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

In my other post here I talked about how I often wonder where all the men are when I see our local workplaces. I’ve often wondered if young men, seeing their ambitions frustrated again and again by the gynocracy will not eventually start turning to organized (or disorganized) crime. This may be inevitable in fact as more and more of the kind of things men enjoy become criminalized. There’s no HR bitch in the mafia at least.

Alzaebo
Reply to  pozymandias
1 month ago

You mean black and latino gangstas, displayin’ for their welfare mamacitas?
The “kids” from broken homes?

White “gangs” are surveilled ruthlessly.
Mostly gun range clubbos they call “militias”.
I’ve read the SPLC magazine profiling them, by name and address, handed out for free to every police org in the nation.

Black, latino, maybe a token or two- if affiliatin’ and slangin’ with rednecks.
Muslims, with their dozens of l’il jihadi training camps for al-Shabab or Ju’umaat Islamiya, not a fookin’ word.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David_Wright
1 month ago

i don’t like being around most of the young guys these days (engineering background) because they are such flaming pussies. almost smacked one around at work for pulling SJW crap with me (“you are objectifying women”). he must have picked up on my mood because he scuttled away with noticeable haste.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Years ago I spent time coaching 8-12 year olds. The ones with the single mothers were a different bunch. Lazier, usually. Some of their mothers would show up and immediately begin ‘auditioning’ me to become the defacto new father. This was some 15 years ago.

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

I had a similar experience a year ago while coaching peewee football. You could tell which kids came from divorced families or had single mothers. Even if they were natural athletes, the rules of the game and fundamentals were not there. Even more challenging, a lot of the kids didn’t know the positions. Before this, I could not conceive of a 10 year-old that did not know what a wide receiver or running back was, or where they would line-up on a play.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

Maybe it would’ve helped if you’d just asked the little darlings to identify as a wide receiver, QB, etc.

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

Well-played, well-played.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

I am talking about more fundamental life things – and am someone who knows young lineman need to study the plays and the rules. I didn’t expect 8 years olds to know what a “take” was, let alone the take sign, how to keep one foot out of the batter’s box to get the sign from the 3rd base coach… My practices for baseball started with the boys running two laps around the field. So first time at this, single mother raised (thus far) malingerer quits. As I am exhorting the rest to ‘keep going’ and pick up the pace.… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

I never played football, other than fun pickup games. but i did play baseball. when i was in 6th grade i took my mitt to school every damn day. every recess and lunch was pop-up 500 and just throwing the ball back and forth. you don’t see anything like that now, at least in my part of utopia. now they have that useless t-ball, the perfect metaphor for today’s nutless wonders. man i wanted to play Pony League so baaaaaddddd — ’cause they had real unis, not just T’s and caps 😛

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

Bring to mind a comment made by Michael Savage in 2008 regarding autism: “I’ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.'” Savage was wrong abut autism, but he was right that fathers tend to… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

We had a lot of that in the Boy Scouts. Single mothers dumping their sons off to have some semblance of male influence. We handled the task as best we could. I hope it had some positive effect.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Kids are more involved in afterschool activities today than 40 years ago. Even in intact families, more often than not, no one is home when school lets out, so the kids are packed off to afterschool activities and the coaches and instructors act as surrogate parents.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

One thing I remember years ago as an undergrad student was in a psychology class learning the concept of de facto surrogate fathers. Boys without fathers will reach out unconsciously to any man they can form a relationship with. Since learning that concept, I’ve noticed such a few times in real life and in readings of lives of some of our notables today. Never happened to me, but it may fall upon you someday.

Trojan House
Trojan House
Reply to  David_Wright
1 month ago

Especially true here in the frozen tundra we call Canada. Our self-professed feminist and esteemed Prime Minister, with the great hair and now a beard, Justin Trudeau is a prime example. His father, Pierre, who basically ruined this country, hooked up with his crack-wh%$e, feminist mother who’s past-time was riding the c#@k carousel. After the father died, he was basically raised by his mom which explains why Canada falls more and more into the shitter. I bet this guy has never picked up a wrench before and has never had any dirt under his nails. Women love him here though,… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Trojan House
1 month ago

No, your Greatest Generation predecessors gave away the farm in the 1960s with the 1965 immigration act,the desertion of private property rights, and, never forget, the welfare state. Then Boomers embraced the siren song of free trade, put the Clintons in office, and let the media and schools begin the Long Brainwashing. Neither generation gave a damn about the Bill of Rights, or the evildoing of the Fed or Henry Kissinger, and here we are.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

In Canada? I mean, I imagine there were similar acts and leaders, and a similar downward path, but different details, right?

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Yes, parallels. The Clintons were our Trudeaus.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

the thing is, why would someone support *any* of the online platforms?! they are all pozzed, or on the way. don’t support them in any way. but if you do use them, then don’t bitch when you are mistreated.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I thought of that a few years ago when I got Netflix. Naturally, practically every show was pozzed and trying to destroy traditional white culture. At first, I was upset, but then I laughed at myself for being so stupid. No shi$ these shows are awful. They’re made by people who hate me. They don’t hide that. It’d be the same if they were watching a show that I produced. Yet, I’m sending them money every month and giving them my eye balls.

I told myself to grow a pair.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

just share your credentials with friends and family. that will starve them.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Exactly. Although I know it is part of their business model to pump their stock – my Netprix is watched by a small army that usually does not include me.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I have come to realize that if a man won’t give up his socials and pozzmedia, “I only use it because…”, expecting him to walk the lonely and hazardous road of the sovereign masculine is unrealistic. I have friends who are dang close to our side. But they insist on playing with the instawhore or tinders and will yarn on about some “show” on the flix. These are guys that have tunneled out of the barracks in the stalag only to come up six feet (heh) short of the wire. I am tired of busting their chops on this matter.… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

You might as well face it, they’re addicted to the protective yoke of Commandant Klink and Sergeant Schultz.

joey junger
joey junger
1 month ago

Ironically, I think I knew the gynocracy was doomed when I read that Hanna Rosin book crowing about the victory of women over men. It’s all anecdotal, very weak, and a parody that no one took seriously, even those the book was intended to flatter (Rosin is proof that there are some very, very stupid Jews). I always suspected the book was frankly an extended bedroom game (what the Germans call “Weibermacht”) between Rosin and her husband David Plotz, in which the public was made into unwitting voyeurs. She’s a dead-ringer for Rosa Luxemburg; alas, she probably won’t end her… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Please. Here’s my experience of the raging feminists I know:

Fembot: I am woman, hear me roar!

Fembot 5 minutes later: My car is making a funny noise, heeeelp!

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

Well the cars are definitely in trouble now.

These idiots who rule us have gone and sunk the country.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

I hope that you are right Z man but gynocracy is like a drug to today’s young men. Being cared for inside the home by doting parents and single women while getting easy sex outside the home. Or lacking sex, free pornography. I am an older fart. But I remember watching Phil Donahue back in my younger days when they had feminists on back in the 70’s. I remember how blind I thought they all were and how it all would lead to disaster. We have not got to the disaster part yet. Maybe the Navy crew taking the side… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

what makes you think the same forces aren’t at work in those places?

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

True, but my guess is not quite so much. The Chinese police dragging their citizens around by the hair is a sign. Also it appears that Putin is embracing traditional Russian Orthodox culture to some extent.
The eastern bloc nations like Hungary certainly are not falling for our intersectional crap.
At least not as much as we fall for it.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

the chins have a *huge* problem with young men who are addicted to video games. there have even been a couple of dudes there who played themselves to death. and in russia just about every male is a raging alcoholic, with many dead before 60. they are paper tigers…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

Good point. Based upon my very shaky understanding of history as expressed by Fukuyama “The Origins of Political Order”, we should expect more adherence to tradition (patriarchy, so far as I know) especially in the Chinese case. I don’t have any “data” for Russia, but surely closer to Asian traditions. China is not going to give up several thousand years of social cohesion based upon a powerful central authority, a Byzantine bureaucracy and very strong resistance to change and outside influence easily, any more than the indigenous of Africa could be easily lifted out of the Stone Age into the… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

Submitted for you approval: for greater accuracy leave out the ‘maybe’ and ‘may’ in the last two sentences.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

G Lordon; Re the Navy fiasco, as a long retired mid-senior non-navy CO, my take for what it’s worth (FWIW), is that you’re reversing the casualty. It really is the Captains fault, not that the crew are wusses (even if they are). He’s supposed to be the grown-up in charge, after all. IMHO (in my humble opinion) the entire fiasco was apparently kicked off and furthered by said removed Captain trying too hard to be the crew’s buddy instead of focusing on his ship’s mission. Had he not made the port call in Vietnam (where the virus was likely picked… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

he also had the virus himself — a little bit of a conflict of interest, no? Not exactly made of the same stuff as Captain Kosaku Ariga…

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

This is very close to the average reaction of sailors I know in Diego to this story. They’re much harder on the captain than landlubbers have been.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Exile do a search of vets thoughts on ROE.

The potential of a CPT Crozier who fell on his sword for his men is be assured unlimited.

Then look up the bio of the fetching Acting Secretary Modly.

A Welsh name I’m told…

Fellow Welsh People…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

Al de la Nort, Do you know what the potential is for an American Officer who stands for his men? Unlimited. No matter what you remember, this is how it is now. No matter the justness of the cause. As far as NMC… 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh boy; catch up – I think you need to research ROE. Something else you need to know, because we do; Modly is not only a coward, he’s a carpet-bagging Astan War Reconstruction war profiteer. Dear Acting Secretary Modly you see was a UH1N pilot who served as a Jr Officer and got out in…1990. Remember… Read more »

Severian
1 month ago

From your pen to God’s ears. Our Thing has really been missing a trick here. As you’ve written before, the Poz is really just the weaponization of unattached females. Why, then, have we not weaponized unattached males? All those potential storm troopers (it’s a *metaphor*, NSA goons) just sitting in their Moms’ basements spanking it. Get them out there on the Internets, mocking the barren cat ladies. The Left only wins because their goon squad has more free time — you have a job, Trigglypuff doesn’t, so Trigglypuff can spend all the hours you’re working scheming to get you. We… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

“Why, then, have we not weaponized unattached males?” the word you are looking for is “incels”

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

There is little to no weapons grade material in much of Gen X and the Millenials.

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

This is the result of tearing down our civil institutions and just generally mucking up society. It used to be that there was a lot of contact between generational males and younger guys could learn from the older guys. This was particularly true in work, especially at male type jobs, so much of which are gone.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I can see that. I never worked construction, but there was a very similar dynamic in the military, particularly the infantry. Green privates, kids, really, who jumped into Panama and came back same rank but with a Combat Infantry Badge were one of the old guys around the barracks. It’s an extreme example, but I think the process of men having to “prove” one’s self to the collective whole has been lost.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I had a similar experience in the early 1990s. My boss used to smoke cigars in his office, and if he detected any hint of BS, he would yell “bullshit!” at you. But he was also a good, religious family man. You never got away with anything, but he was very fair. I learned a lot from that guy.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Worked summers doing insulation installation in new construction in S. Florida. Job super was an ex-airborne Vietnam vet. A ball buster. But if you were doing something wrong–he chew you out then show you the right way. And would jump in if we were getting behind the drywallers (who were paid by sq foot installed—so they moved fast). But learned to work my ass off and so long as you did, you were “ok for a college kid”

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

While loading trucks for UPS starting at midnight, I always took “ok for a college kid” to be the highest of compliments.

NorthGunner
NorthGunner
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Good morning Zman, Older men ARE stepping up to teach the younger men — they’re teaching them by their life experiences that women as a gender are, emotion driven hags that CANNOT be trusted in anything they claim, or say and that ‘good little woman of yours’ WILL turn on you out of the blue to utterly destroy your life and all that you worked for because..the Christian ‘Social Gospel Movement’ ran amuck to create the scourge of feminism…because…. vagina!! During the last year have you also spent any appreciable time to interact with men who have adopted and integrate… Read more »

Swimologist
Swimologist
Reply to  NorthGunner
1 month ago

Agreed, but I doubt your 1/3 of kids born are not the husband’s. Sounds too high

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Swimologist
1 month ago

I’ve read the actual number hovers around 15%. That’s for married and does not include out of wedlock.

Oh, and I’m one of them. Confirmed by genetic test. Which was interesting given I should be able to tan but the swiss-german mennonite and scandi prevent it. At least I didn’t end up in a pail or medical incinerator like other GenX.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

I’ve seen 1 in 12 as the average for those doing genetic testing finding out they are bastards. I was going to say that the vibrants would probably rate higher, but they aren’t pay out -of-pocket for genetic testing and they also marry less so the point is moot.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  NorthGunner
1 month ago

Excellent post, almost an infomercial! I’m on board with the “Don’t trust women” bandwagon. I was an incel before it was cool, have generally had bad experiences with women (my own personality could not be a factor, could it? Naaaw! 😀 ) But in any case I haven’t paid for a bad (or good) marriage and kids. Perhaps, already my late 50s, I will escape. And while my sex drive is not what it was in my younger days, being alone makes me proud to be able to take matters into my own hands :*)

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

From here now in America’s hinterlands, after thirty+ yrs in the military/govt complex and living and working at the verge of urban-rural America, and spending much time peering into the governing swamp– I can tell you that there is something going on out here with the 18-30 yr old males I now work with daily. They know something is wrong. They don’t really know what it is. Most have little to no historical or cultural knowledge. But they know it’s wrong, bad for them and threatens our future. They also know that my generation did the final damage, and that… Read more »

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 month ago

I am dubious that much of Gen X and the Millenials can be rehabilitated. As a Gen Xer, I was on the front-line of the PC battles and lost (took couple of D’s in college and graduate school for my efforts). My cohort was standing in the path of the glorious future.

Late stage Millenials (Fuentes) and Gen Z are approaching the gynocracy from a different perspective. They are fighting a new war with 20 years of evidence supporting them.

I’ll ponder the leadership concept . . .

Severian
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

Form a hunting club. You don’t actually have to hunt; just get out in the woods with some Dissident-curious guys and see what happens. A new wandervogel is the goal.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Or ice fishing. Big thing when I did a tour of duty in Detroit. Half the guys put their sheds out on Lake St. Claire across from Grosse Pointe Shores just to piss off the wealthy people. No one fished. Just drank and played cards.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

I have one Gen Z who tells the teachers what they want to hear even though he knows it’s crap. My other Gen Z is constantly talking back and getting into arguments, even though it hurts his grades. I’m not sure which approach is better, but it matches their personalities, so I just support them both and let them be who they are.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Later in life the quiet one can help install the fighter without drawing attention to himself. They can mutually support. I’m sure they’ll figure this out eventually.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Incels of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your virginity!

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Throwing in that 70 virgins in heaven was a genius marketing move by Islam.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Muhammad thinking to himself…..Hmmm….maybe 1 out of 70 of these tender green shoots won’t lie on her back like a terrified flounder.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

And booze! Even in this world, I get four wives and hashish. You can keep your wine and one wife. Screw this Christianity stuff. And they don’t even describe their Heaven! (Pretty sure there is no “official” definition.)

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

72 virgins and 28 boys. What are the boys for, eh Muhammad?

Alzaebo
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

The Islamic “heaven”, in reality, was R&R camps where the hired raiders would get the rewards denied to civilians. Fight for Islam and you can go to Heaven. Rivers of wine, feasts of honeyed dates, and yes, those 28 smooth-faced boys. Most Koranic quotes are chopped off in the middle. Such as, “there is no compulsion in religion”… for your captured slaves. In “dawa”, soft war or gaslighting, the inconvenient details are left out. Islam is a rape machine for force-breeding soldiers. The 7 Pillars- charity, alms, hospitals, no infighting, etc- those were to support wounded soldiers or their families… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Yes, but to do that, we need….Them 🙂 Unless, Sir, by “unite” you mean with our own kind?

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Game is a form of weaponizing unattached males but the manosphere is damned by both sides of the sandwich and their respective adjacent dissenters as well. Some of the anti-Gamer tut-tutting I see on otherwise hardcore Right sites could be cross-posted at Jezebel.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Ok, so now for the practicals.

How to reach them?
Where to recruit?
Got the tools?

We’re talking hobby circles and trade skillz.
If older guys can put out the call, younger men will naturally be drawn, and the hunting band can begin.

But how? A template, a checklist, a business presentation? Support services?

Gasman
Gasman
1 month ago

It is our (male) biological mandate that is partly to blame for the current predicament in which we find ourselves. That, and a direct result of the creation of the gynocracy is that we now permit rules to be made for exceptions rather than generalities.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Gasman
1 month ago

NAXALT is the gynocracy’s motto.

joey junger
joey junger
Reply to  Gasman
1 month ago

My feeling is always that the phrase “women and children” existed for good reason, and that if we are to fix this problem, the first thing to do is to take the blame for failing the “shit test,” because blaming the women gives them too much agency. I’ve even read some very beta comments from some nationalists/dissidents saying, “This girl deserved to get raped because she converted to Islam” or something like that. No, the girl was a dumb child who was misled by evil women and abused by inbred mono-brow-afflicted sand savages. I start from the premise that it’s… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Gasman
1 month ago

Shh! Was it really a defeat to let them be in charge? They still hardly notice they’re doing most of the house work! So zip the lip, if you’ve got a good thing going, keep quiet about it!

Like in any war, not every macho man will be a hairy-chested pickup driving blue collar stud. Even the betas can participate doing our equivalent of fifth column actions, like um…. urinate in the sink and then just smile when she always compliments your consideration on leaving the seat tidy…

Epaminondas
Member
1 month ago

Another thing about this pandemic is the responses we are seeing. I’ve noticed that women are the ones around me who are most afraid and who are the most hysterical. You’re not supposed to notice this. But I did.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

now put those very same women on the front lines of combat. they won’t be hysterical very long.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Because they will be dead.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

And worse, their fellow combatants will also be dead. One weak link and the chain gives way.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

yep

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Most women in the military don’t want to serve in combat. There are a few ambitious women who see combat service as a faster way up the promotion ladder. How many of them fly helicopters (Rep. Mikie Sherrill in peacetime) or airplanes (Sen. Martha McSally in Afghanistan)?

I suspect that the greatest support for women in combat comes from people who figure that they will never need to fight. Someone else’s daughter can go. Hiding behind a woman’s skirt, so to speak.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

Epaminondas, my GF told me early on in the Great Panic that she was so thankful to have me in her life because she would otherwise likely be extremely anxious and upset over the wuhan. Its not to toot my horn, but to reinforce the multitude of ways in which a healthy pair-bonding provides stability and pro-social behaviors. She manages 300 people in an essential business, almost all women. The line of demarcation between calm and carry on and the “mental health leave” and other bubbling issues is clear. Single women just see the world differently and accordingly require an… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

As I’ve said before, my wife “complements” me. Her strengths are my weaknesses and my strengths her weaknesses. In that lies the foundation of success and mutual respect. Don’t ask me how this came about and what’s the secret as I don’t know. I was a stupid youth with little more on my mind than a good time when we met. I married up, she down. And here we are.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Ditto. I’m an introvert, she’s an extrovert. She’s high EQ, I’m low. She thinks short term and is a “right now”, I’m more of a long termer. Also suffered from 14 generations of Anglo-Scot inbreeding–way too many high IQ depressive alcoholics. Her Nordic-Polack genes were a good diversification based on how the kids came out.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

“Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. My people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path.”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Yeah if you want to know all about it, just read the OT. Adam and Eve, Samson and Delilah, Jezebel, Isaiah, etc. But it’s a western thing, of course!

When I think of western female villains I think of witches. Harpies not so much. Power players not subverters.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

“Witch” is a useful epithet. Wahmen don’t like it. Being socially acceptable—partly because they think the concept exalts them—it still gets under their skin. Possibly because only one letter needs to be changed…and they REALLY don’t like that one.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Well said. The Femme Fatale is a trope. I think it was Helen Gurley Brown who said (MOL) “The power of our [sex] has toppled kings and lesser men.” Don’t under-estimate the power of the mysterious female. As Richard Pryor said, men fall out of one and spend the rest of their lives trying to get back inside. Jeez, you’d think they’d have installed a fence, a barricade with warning signs and flashing lights, around such a public nuisance: a hole so treacherous that men fall into and out of it!

Jacques_Lebeau
Member
1 month ago

“it is the beginning of the end of the gynocracy…”

Oh God, please make it so.”

tristan
tristan
1 month ago

For those not familiar with early 80s British comedy. The two ronnies ran a series called the “worm that turned” as a documenting of a comic rebellion against a fascistic society of control.

Interestingly it was a women dominated control fascism and men were forced to wear skirts and use female names, while women took over all the male roles and ended up running a police state. Well worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMd1F1acSo

At the time it seemed outlandish, now not so much.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

The US is morphing into a Gynofascist state as we speak.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

More specifically, gynocracy is the road to species extinction. And that is no trivial thing. Patriarchy has been part of our evolutionary model for hundreds of thousands of years, and it got us to the top of the species pyramid. In a few short generations, we have reversed that ancestral trend line and now males are degenerating into eunuchs. Islamists will fight to the death in order to preserve patriarchy, but the West is now actively killing off it’s alphas. We can’t wait on the sidelines forever. It’s man-up time.

Ned2
Ned2
Member
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

The west started killing off our alphas in the First World War. Suffragettes had victories almost as the war ended.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Ned2
1 month ago

The (((West))), fixed that for ya… but otherwise yes. WW one and WW 2 were meat grinder banker’s wars for anyone that is truly in the know. The truth has been hidden from us for a century because the victors write the history.

https://ww2truth.com/

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

If one was so minded it would be quite straightforward to point to (((WW1))) as a mechanism to kill off many of Europe’s existing elite (many of the ruling class’ sons served at that time) and fill the positions with lots of recent emigres. and (((ww2))) to kill a large percentage of Europe’s young men to move to a more controlled env and bring in the teen/perpetual youth movement for the generation after. You effectively used the death from the war as a firebreak of the usual generational culture transmission giving you free reign to remake society using the tv.… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

There is a scene at the beginning of “Chariots of Fire” when they sit down to eat in one of the Oxford college dining rooms. On the walls are the memorial tablets with all the members of prior classes that were killed in the Great War–they were literally “shot out”. My club in the city has a similar memorial wall in the lobby. Huge number of names, but what is most striking is you recognize many of them as from the prominent society families of New York during the World Wars. Now we just send the “white trash” from where… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Dukes, Earls, Barons and whatnot started out as military titles, given for valor in the field. The titles got passed on and diluted over time.

Duke to Earl: my great-great-etc grandfather could whip your great-great-etc grandfather’s butt.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

In medieval Europe, there were only two occupational choices for an upper class male: knight or clergyman. Kings led charges in battle. it’s fashionable for Americans to mock the British royal family, but Harry was in Afghanistan and Andrew in the Falklands. Both princes turned out to be disappointments, but that’s another story.

Alzaebo
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

That’s why our National Guard was sent to the Mideast, over and over and over again, to exhaust them, wound them, or put them on Zoloft.

A decimation campaign to prevent the last bastion of traditional male hierarchy from forming a next generation of leaders.

Nat Guard is mostly married men who found a useful 2nd career ladder to support their families as a provider and learn some skillz.

The weaponized (((gynocracy))) protected its own status quo. Our National Guard are meant to guard our nation’s borders, not the undefined borders of the Northwest Frontier.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

PS- tristan, Goldman/Spengler brags about it in one of his Asia Times articles.

“We found during the Civil War that the key to victory was to kill 1/3 of the fighting age males of two generations- first the fathers, then the sons, and then you shall have Peace.”

Peak Peace, 2020, per twitter UK:
“I live in a country where a young English girl can be butchered by an African immigrant and drones patrol dog walkers”

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

If by peace he meant slavery then yes he is correct.

I really do wonder how long this has been going on. the further back I dig the more suspect it becomes.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Ned2
1 month ago

And all the tall Frenchmen before they finally deepened the trenches.

Member
1 month ago

If you want to end feminism then become a masculine man, take a wife, and raise your children with the beliefs you want them to have. Teach your sons to be men and fathers and teach your daughters to be wives and mothers. The problem is most guys don’t want to end feminism. Because ending it means taking responsibility. They want a mommy government and they want a mommy wife who they can fall back on should they stumble. They also have no idea how to be masculine. Instead they larp it. Guys now purchase a masculine looking identity with… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

> They want a mommy government and they want a mommy wife who they can fall back on should they stumble.

The first error of any married man is to believe his wife gives a sh*t about his feelings.

You are more alone in marriage than as a single man, since she will actively test you to try and get rid of the male network you used as emotional support if she disapproves of them.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

oh god, another MGTOW whiner. no one made you marry a woman that doesn’t care about you. you fukked up and now somehow it’s all women who are bad. do you really not know how bad this kind of blubbering makes you look?!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Happily married actually with 3 kids.

Once you appreciate women for who they are and not what you want them to be, it’s not that hard.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

that’s what your wife says

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Actually Karl, that’s kind of funny. ;-). Tone it down a bit, folks will stop reflexology down voting you.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

if a comment is down voted in a forest… 🙂

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Nah. You’re actually a pretty good commenter at times. The adage, “… more flies with honey, than vinegar” comes to mind.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

You’ve already managed to accrue three posts with overwhelming downvotes and I’m only a 1/3 of the way through reading all comments, I wonder how many more I’ll discover by the time I scroll all the way down?

You aren’t clever or funny SmartBoy™. Your gamma is shining bright like a beacon for all to see. How about sh1tpost less and find something else to do besides spamming up the board with unfunny quips? Do you remember a few days ago the topic about the quality going down here? Mirror check.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Chet – You raise a key point. While typically people think of women and their gaggle of frenemies, I have always noticed most guys – normal guys – have a true male network. Friends from high school sports, friends from college classes, friends and coworkers from adult life. They tend to carry that network with them throughout life. I am much more a loner than most women and my husband and I are genuine friends too – but your average woman (to be avoided like the plague) will tell you her best friend is her mom.

vmax71
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

It is a genetic thing

Human beings have evolved to live in packs of about 40-50 people. The men may hate each other individually, but they have to co-operate—otherwise, they will be killed by prey, or starve to death or meet another similar calamity. Men are genetically wired to cooperate and form networks.

A woman’s job is to have babies and all the other women in the pack are her competition… competition in getting impregnated and competition for the male’s attention/protection/food/taking care of the kid. Women are genetically wired to hate other women.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

@Chet –

Been married a long time, happily – a successful marriage in all ways to a smart, beautiful, and caring woman.

She does not care at all about my feelings. If ever I shed a tear, there had better be a dead relative – and a close one, not like a cousin or some sissy ish like that. The worst thing a woman can be is unfaithful, the worst thing a man can be is weak – neither can be tolerated. That’s how it is.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

In a saner age sites like this wouldn’t need to exist.
https://www.artofmanliness.com/

Not that it is of any use. You’re not going to find it on a website.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David_Wright
1 month ago

they have some decent training tips on that site 🙂

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

That’s rather risky when you live in a country where any woman can call 911 and have her husband permanently removed from his home and asset-stripped by a court system that is 100.00% rigged against him.

You need to make clear that if that happens, they’ll never find her body.

And those women are lucky. Most slowly go insane under gynocracy because the only men unafraid to roger them are broke-ass vagabonds with prison tattoos.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

Out here in the far reaches of Indian Territory, hard, manual work and skilled labor are a real and visible thing. Guys work here. They drive dirty trucks with expensive, custom-built beds on the back housing huge tool boxes, welders and cutting rigs and the like. Lunchtime on the Main Street of the small town I spend daylight hours in is marked by rows of these things angled into curbside parking. Saw nothing like this in the trendy and expanding Nevada urban area I left 18 months back. I also notice that these guys don’t sport the cultivated, Adonis-like physiques… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 month ago

Here also in the Indian Territory, my son, who in a different life would be getting a Ph.D. in English, is a welder and very happy with his choice. He loves coming home dirty and grimy and tired. He eschews all the trendy labels, “incel” “gamma whatever” and the like, and instead lives his life confident that there is a young woman who will come along who is not a brainwashed, temperamental, shrieking harpy. Reading Mises and Solzhenitsyn in the evenings, he continues his education on his own. I feels sorry for parents and their harried, worn-out kids who think… Read more »

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

This place has some real attractions, with a few real things that keep you on your toes. I know why the trendy hipsters don’t congregate out here, and why they gave it to the Indians back in the early 1800s …. before they discovered oil, that is. It’s still a rough land. Earth-hammering storms (and tornados), poisonous snakes in the yard, brown recluse spiders in the bed and on your clothes. I wasn’t prepared for that last one, coming from forty years in the high desert. This place grows hardy, reality-oriented men …. and women. With all that, it still… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
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Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 month ago

You sound like the type of guy we Oklahoma women like. Not afraid to get your hands dirty. Welcome home

Exile
Exile
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Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

Muh bootstraps, snowflakes. If you don’t like being de-platformed, make your own Internet.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Thank you! JFChrist that was Ultra Boomer Tier bootstrapping. I don’t totally disagree with the LARPing part but he acts like there is some inexhaustible supply of tradwifes around which is demonstrably false. Its turbo-b1tches, wine aunts, and harpies all the way down for the most part if you are near any major metro area. It is -clear- these are people who are not dating in the current cesspool that is Western Wahmen. Just man up and take that Divorce Rape on the chin little shaver! Just be masculine so she can ‘believe all women’ you when she has next… Read more »

MossHammer
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Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

Living your convictions is hard, until it’s not. Once outside the modern narrative, clarity about their lies comes in waves, almost daily. My wife took a little longer for me to wake her up, but now she’s a traditionalist. Coming from a hardcore California . We watch a lot of Little House On the Prairie around here (3 homeschooled kids) and a recent episode was relevant to your post, and really struck me. Mrs. Ingles was going on a trip and conveyed confidence in Laura that she could hold down the fort, as a homemaker, while she was away. The… Read more »

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Reply to  MossHammer
1 month ago

Same here mosshammer. My wife now thanks me for taking over her life and setting her on a traditional course. She knows how lucky she is.

She’s busy homeschooling our children while her old friends are slowly going insane. Same worry about finding good matches for the children as well.

MossHammer
Member
Reply to  Daniel Millet
1 month ago

Good to know, Daniel. The whole arranged marriage thing is looking pretty good to me!

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
1 month ago

Got some more stuff from the medical department about how this virus is going to change things. Telemedicine. My expectation is that this will become a new normal to some degree. It fits the whole Amazon-Uber-Door Dash zeitgeist. My healthcare app is interactive and there’s a real person at the other end! Maybe this one will have a good bitside manner. Been doing it in our practice now for a couple of weeks, since it became legal to bill for it. Previously the encounter had to be recorded video (both ends) over HIPPA-compliant devices to be reimbursable. Now, it can… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

My wife and I have speculated what to do if we actually get sick from this thing. Would our family doctor actually prescribe the medicine that works against this virus over the phone? Refer us to a specialist swamped beyond all capacity, or tell us to show up at a hospital? If any except the first happened, he wouldn’t be our family doctor any longer.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

Drake – The specific thing I’ve discussed about covid with my husband is that if I were to get so deathly ill as to require hospitalization, I would require a legally valid document refusing, under any circumstances, to be intubated. And, if ignored, he’d damned well better shoot me before the medical professionals get their hands on me.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I’ve gotten my own basic will & testament and powers of attorney stuff done, so I can opine… If those are your wishes, you should be able to have “no heroic measures” or whatever it is called, as well as customized wishes in your advance medical directive. Mine say basically no food no water but pain relief yes but only in terminal conditions. Which brings my next nosy question: Would you refuse intubation if you stood a reasonable chance to recover to a “normal” life? You should have the right, but it just seems like giving up too easily…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

My suspicion is that if you refuse a ventilator the doctor will give you a “shot” to relief your suffering—gasping like a fish out of water—which will take care of such concerns very shortly. With all respect to our good doctor posting here, what else can a physician do at that stage?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Compsci – That’s precisely my point. Even in the best of circumstances, most who go on a ventilator do not come off well if at all. Perhaps Right Doctor can correct me, but I believe I’ve read many doctors themselves would refuse intubation. If I am that sick, ease my pain and let me go.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I would refuse it, but I am 66 and have at least one condition that will disable me in a few years (IBM). I have have a strong Christian faith and a loving wife. Kids and grandkids. I’ve done my part. The world is less and less a place I want to live in. I’ve seen lots of people die, talked to them as they did so. You’d be surprised how many don’t fight – but then again, something that can kill you can strip your will to live. Some people are getting off ventilators with this. If I were… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

The current advice is to minimize suspected covid cases’ exposure to the world at large. If you called our office with the right/wrong symptoms, we would advise you where and how to get tested, and to self-quarantine pending the results. The quarantine would then be extended if they are positive. (The medical system would only be invoked if you got into respiratory difficulty, which is when you or proxy call 911 or the hospital and let them know the deal.) As far as prescribing, OTC meds for the symptoms would be recommended. There’s no accepted/recommended treatments at present. Don’t confuse… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

That’s an interesting medical conundrum. You obviously know of the hyped treatment recommendations of hydroxychloriquine and zinc, and the limited success rate of ventilation therapy. Would you not treat with such a medication for your patient?

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I have not had the occasion to but I would, It seems to have very quickly become the standard of care in the media.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

Anecdotal… Wife got sick last week. Still sick. Not corona. Two ‘telemedicine’ appointments resulting in several prescriptions, then finally they agreed to have her come into the office. One look in each ear and yep, very bad ear infections (tear ducts also infected). Had they started her on a course of antibiotics sooner she wouldn’t have been in so much pain the past 3 days, but they kept saying give the prednisone time to work (it probably made the bacterial infections worse, since it suppresses the immune system). Telemedicine might be an okay first-line for the hypochondirac patient. Not for… Read more »

bilejones
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Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

“Telemedicine might be an okay first-line for the hypochondirac patient.”

perhaps should be written from the doctors point of view:

“Telemedicine might be an okay first-line of defense against the hypochondirac patient.”

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

Doc; Virtual could well be the future for follow-ups. Just had a 6 month one and it worked very well. But then again I didn’t really need it (but who knows this in advance_?) Virtual obviously wouldn’t work well for an initial appointment with no records on hand. So maybe an 80:20 system could evolve with in-person visits interspersed with virtual follow-ups. OTOH, one could look at the white spots on anybody’s Little Timmy’s throat via a hi-res selfie and Rx the Amoxicillin over the phone, I suppose. BTW, in the unlikely case you didn’t know, it is now possible… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

It’s perfect for follow ups with conditions that appear to have been diagnosed correctly because they are improving as expected. Those are cases where you really don’t examine the patient except to say you did.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

True, but I’ve had prescriptions written via a phone call and consultation and description of the problem. I’m willing to chance it. Follow up later as the situation dictates. Why? Because I was in immediate need and sitting in an ER waiting room in agony was at the time suboptimal. Now of course, impossible or highly risky. 😉

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

Be prepared to compete with outsourcing and call center-type expert “AI” when telemedicine fully arrives. We’ll use our mobile phones to show Prahdeep the back of our throat, rashes and hematomas and enable him to listen to hearts and lungs. We’ll transmit our blood O2 levels, ekg, microassay results and personal observations, and the AI will code things and bill insurance. We’ll swallow a sensor capsule like the one sitting on my desk this very moment, it’s a pill cam, and our phones will monitor and report the walls of our gastrointestinal tract, perhaps sampling gastric juices and bile. Neurosurgery… Read more »

Elvez
Elvez
1 month ago

What I find fascinating is how Modern Woman quotes Harry Potter to make arguments based on emotion the same way evangelicals used to quote scripture.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Elvez
1 month ago

Oh my lord the number of bugmen and millennial women that are Harry Potter people are nuts. I mean, it’s not a terrible children’s story and I’ll read it to my kids someday, but they really do take it biblically.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

That is only slightly less scary than people who take the Bible literally. Or the Koran, or the …

bilejones
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

The central themes: good versus evil, flawed heroes, character revealed by events, etc are timeless,

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Somehow, taking the Bible literally never came about for me. Went to Catholic parochial schools all my life. Never remember any religious teaching which deemed to interpret the Bible literally. Indeed, I remember instruction in interpreting times, dates, events in a more figurative manner. Also, there was no estrangement between science and reason, and biblical interpretation. Evolution was never contradicted either. That was as early as the 60’s.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

401 AD. On the Literal Meaning of Genesis by St. Augustine. Nothing is as new as we think. “Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Very anecdotal, but young girls (think high school) don’t seem too impressed by feminism. Don’t get me wrong, they still buy into girrrrl power and equality uber alles, but they don’t seem to buy into the careerism side of the argument. They also openly say that they want a family with many saying that they would like to stay home. The feminist stigma surrounding the stay at home mom is dying. Young women don’t buy it. Interestingly, the teenagers that I meet – despite their indoctrination – are more conservative in many ways that my Gen X group. They don’t… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

It seems to me that the HS age group would be receptive to Woke Agenda ridicule, since the Wokeness is in full force these days, to the point of being over the top and into the realm of parody. There’s a tendency with kids to rebel against the older generation and authority anyway and you would think they’ve had it with this nonsense surrounding them 24/7.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Exactly, and as Z has noted, the anti-whites won the war. They are in charge, despite they’re ceaseless harping about being victims. The young always rebel against authority. But now, you’re adding in race and gender. Young whites, especially young white men, are facing an authority that openly despises them. It’s not just ridicule that works, but ridicule and truth. Young whites are lied to from birth about everything, and they can sense it. Telling them even small truths is like a drink of water in a desert.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

My high school boys got a big dose of reality via the bussing of vibrancy from the inner city into our nice suburban school. I consider myself to be a realist, but they are outright racist. These programs were supposed to make make everyone feel equal, but have had the opposite effect. I have to remind them to treat everyone as an individual first, but it’s okay to see truth.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

DLS – If you really feel the need to remind them to treat everyone as an individual first, don’t merely tell them that noticing is ‘okay.’ Explain to them that the favor (treating people as individuals) will not be returned, and make sure they don’t ever expect their individual IKAGO to have their back.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Thanks, 3g4me. Sound advice. What is IKAGO?

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I Know A Good One

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

DLS – I Know A Good One (various non-White unicorns who are held up as examples that HBD isn’t real). Too many believe that in extremis, the individual/character will over-ride the HBD/racial bedrock. With truly rare exceptions, it won’t.

Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I Know A Good One
(I think)

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

DLS, I respectfully disagree. One of the hardest conclusions that I have reach is that in fact, we can’t treat everyone as an individual. This is what got us where we are now. Ironically, you can only treat the member of another tribe as an individual if you first acknowledge that you’re members of different tribes and where those tribal boundaries lie. Once those issues are settled, we can treat each other as individuals because we know that everyone will return to their own community/country in short order. A major dividing line in the Dissident Right is between those who… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Two things stand out to me right now about today’s kids vs. my cohorts (high school class of ’89). One is that they don’t care about driving. I got my permit the day of my 16th birthday and had my license 2 months later. A friend was telling me that his 17 year old son asked him to move his car out of the driveway so he could shoot hoops. The guy said, “here’s the keys, you can do it,” but the kid flat out refused to even move his dad’s car 50 feet. That would have been unfathomable behavior… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

I remember spending my high school days (1980s) trying to get laid. Teenage boys today are more into just hanging out with their male friends. I’m not sure if this a good development or not. I also don’t see much drinking, but I do see a bit of vaping and marijuana use. We used to smoke joints, but the stuff today used in “one hitters” is so much stronger.

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

The guys that vape look like they’re suckling on a dildo. Smoking actually looked cool

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

KGB. Now that I think of it, I never had a driving lesson from anyone. To get my permit, I had my uncle drive me to the DMV. After the permit was issued, we went back to the car and he got in the passenger seat. I guess I looked perplexed, so he tossed me the keys and said, “you drive home”. That was it. Gawd I miss those days. 😉

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Automatic or Standard? Your uncle might have been in for a rocky time with the second?

auser
auser
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

I’ve noticed this and have done a lot of thinking about it. Fundamentally it seems to come down to independence vs dependence. A related fundamental could also be individual responsibility vs shared responsibility. Whatever it is, it’s not a good sign when a young person lacks ambition for independence.

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

A coworker was telling me about her young female relative and how she’d love to go the family route but her boyfriend and his friends (and really, every male that I know in her age cohort, including my own son) cannot put down the friggin’ video game controller long enough to even pick up the bathroom.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

I thank God every day my kids never showed anything more than a passing interest in video games. To interested in sports and doing real stuff–building shit, pick up games, taught all of them (boys and girls) how to cook. The oldest one found out the last was a great way to get chicks in college.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Modern women are the *worst* at cooking. And it’s freaking easier to learn than ever.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Citizen, Wondering if in your community most of the families remained geographically stable as well? Not a lot of relocating? I’ve noticed that the kids who remain in the area where they grew up and remain in contact with the friends of their youth marry a lot younger and start having kids a lot younger. Once someone in their circle gets married they all want to settle down. Once some start having kids it turns into a baby derby. Having a stable community from one generation to the next does a lot in making sure people have an interest in… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 month ago

Ironically, the kids in the area do tend to stick in the area. I say ironically because I live in the DC area which is famous for being transient, but that reputation is more for the young people working on the Hill. For people who stick around the area and have families, their kids (second generation vampires if you will) tend to stay in the DC area. Even the kids who head off to colleges out of state usually come back to the DC area. In some ways, it makes sense. DC has a lot of jobs for highly educated… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 month ago

Hope you’re right, Z-man, but there’s a lot of ruin in a gynocracy. I think, however, that a tipping point will be reached where there are simply not enough competent men to keep the machines running and the lights on.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

South Africa’s experience demonstrates just how few competent White Men it takes to keep a country functioning.

I’m not optimistic that we are anywhere near that tipping point.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Meme, I’m perplexed as well. However, the amount of skill set needed to maintain a system is much less than that to develop, install, and expand a system. Even at maintenance, it would seem SA has some visible cracks developing. Cape Town and its water crisis is my current favorite.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

You need a few to keep things running. But you need a massive engineering capacity somewhere else to dig the design/machine/upgrade all the parts. This idea that the machines will keep running is not sensible unless you want to envisage some perpetually jerry-rigged infrastructre going forwards.

Beyond a certain size large scale engineering is an ecosystem itself that 10 guys and know-how can’t reproduce without the appropriate IQ/skills manpower underneath them.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

One of the pillars of Systemantics is that “Any Large System is Going to be Operating Most of the Time in Failure Mode”. You need the know how to keep it going while things are failing all around. Most importantly, you need to have a healthy ability to see the system as essentially the opposite of magic, which most folks are incapable of doing.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I agree. This is going to take a very long time. Like it or not, we’re laying the groundwork for something that we won’t see. As Z has noted, we’re planting trees that we know we’ll never sit under.

But that’s what men do.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

The level-11 hysteria of women-in-general nowadays is partly a cry for help. They know in their gut and heart that we’re already there.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

They do indeed, and individually they can be guided to the light.

But collectively? They have mechanisms that keep them in line, and women value conformity much more highly then men.

Little things like #stayhome might roll off of our backs with zero notice, but when females see it everywhere it becomes gospel.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard women tell their boyfriends or husbands something to the effect of “Well, why didn’t you stop me. You know I go crazy sometimes.”

Women expect men to reign them in at times. Be a man, step up and take control of the situation. Of course, women don’t acknowledge that they’ve created a society where men can lose everything if they do.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 month ago

Practical matters aside, it’s also going to take willpower. Men and women holding their noses to be together. Everybody is damaged to a degree. We’ve all learned to expect gratification or even perfection, but in my experience it doesn’t work that way. There’s going to have to be a lot of forgiving. Hard work.

This insanity may make us realize something has to change, but it won’t necessarily point the way.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

As the leftist career women and their uptalking soyboy allies welcome massive numbers of Muslim immigrants, you would think they might wonder how this might affect their gynocratic agenda.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

I think they view it as a Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (without understanding that reference). Once bad white man is permanently put down, they plan to domesticate the Muslims. How that will work without white men to do the dirty work is a mystery.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

Ah the Pit bull rescue. So many misunderstood pit bulls just need a good home.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Speaking of pit bull rescue, has it ever been the case that young women haven’t brought home the wayward, wild boy, with the idea of taming him and making him hers? A high school buddy, way back in the paleo era, larped as such a bad boy, and had more girlfriends than he knew what to do with.

Perhaps there is even a biological element to it. That wild boy might be able to do a good job of protecting and providing in uncertain times, while the well-mannered “good” boy might be next to useless.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Perhaps due to the influence of romance novels where the virtuous maiden tames the wildboy “rake” with the understanding that he will become a model husband. Maybe, maybe not.

The idea that love and marriage go together like a horse and carriage is a modern idea. Historically, marriage was first and foremost a business arrangement and love, if it existed in the marriage, came after.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

They still believe they’ve domesticated the Africans.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

The African situation was a self-fail. I think it was Zman who had a great line about what advice he would give our founders: Pick you own damn cotton. But the current importation of low IQ tribal people who are hostile to their new country is solely for new Democrat voters and Chamber of Commerce cheap labor.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

That’s because they “know a good one” and live far away from the urban jungle that the “good one” came from.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Like cats and goats, they quickly revert to wild status when they are on their own. Feral human beings.

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

They’re not planning anything Drake. I doubt there any kind of long term plan here, it’s hand to mouth.

Elementary Penguin
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

The thing is, once the White men are finally destroyed and POC are permanently ascendant, even the bluest-haired and bitterest of 5th wave feminist wymyn will happily surrender to their hormonal urges and giddily submit to their new dusky overlords. There won’t even be a single missed beat: it’ll be from Bernie to burka in a heartbeat, they’ll all be dreamily pushing baby carriages stuffed with sh!tlings, waiting to get home so hubby can straighten them out with a few hard slaps. It’ll be heaven for them. It’s all good, they can groan under infinite patriarchal restraints, so long as… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Elementary Penguin
1 month ago

This. Best comment in the thread.

Blackpill truth.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
1 month ago

To the Prog, society is a game of jenga. The entire point is to see how much they can remove and keep it standing. And like jenga you can’t put blocks back in the tower.

The problem is that women have a hard time finding a man to fulfill those trad dreams of hers. Decades of single motherhood and retreating fathers have left these men in short supply. As have a changing labor market that has destroyed industries that play to male strengths over women’s.

There is no fixing this, there is only collapse and rebuilding.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
1 month ago

Gynocracy will collapse when the culture that allowed it to emerge collapses. It can’t be defeated from the outside* because any external opposition is immediately identified as “sexism” and “misogyny”, isolated, and neutered or destroyed. But, as it’s erected on the lunacy of universal equality, in the end, reality will catch up with it. The end probably won’t be pretty.

* Barring, say, a Muslim takeover of the West.

Elementary Penguin
1 month ago

One can just picture Shlomo reading your essay, and by the time he gets to paragraphs 4 – 7, the gleeful hand-rubbing has reached such high speeds that Shlomo begins to travel through time. Imagine his disappointment when you get to the faint Rays of hope at the end. Rest assured though, rule by patriarchal men will return to America… it just won’t be rule by White men. The majority of Mexican and Muslim women are ugly as a horse head full of eels, but they are feminine, fertile, and are realistic about what their role in life is. They… Read more »

Bunny
Bunny
Reply to  Elementary Penguin
1 month ago

Hmm, that’s not what I see with Mexican women. They take to careerism like a fish to water. They’re certainly not mostly mamacitas at home slinging frijoles, not even the lower classes. They WORK, that’s why they came here. Maybe where you live it’s different.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Elementary Penguin
1 month ago

Mexican and Muslim men are masculine…

Have you met many Moslem men? Most of them are lazy, untrustworthy, histrionic, passive-aggressive cunts that can’t handle criticism, are congenitally unable to take responsibility for their fukkups, and will ragequit a job the first time they are reprimanded by a kuffar boss. Also, they scream a lot, which is just about the worst you can do for face-loss in Scandinavia: “get your emotions under control, you absolute child!”

Arabs are the worst, but they’re all on the spectrum.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Here our brown skinned neighbors have a unique ability to work in this godless heat. I’ll give them that. Ragequiting is not unknown however. I always attributed it to basically the situation that when you are at that low a level employment-wise, jobs are plentiful and it matters little when you quit or get fired. There’s little to lose, you just move on to the next minimum wage position.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

I once asked an American-born Indian Christian college boy if there was a temperamental difference between Moslem Indians and non-Moslem Indians. He didn’t know, but said that he had two Moslem friends from Yemen who were nice guys, but lost their temper easily. Indian Hindus and Sikhs dislike Moslems.

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
1 month ago

It’s been a bit of an awakening for us now we are homeschooling our kids, and examining traditional roles and education.

My sense is that the gynocracy is weakening with each successive generation. Of course it reached its zenith with the Boomers. Unfortunately, there is a lot of wreckage in Gen X and early Millenials. My hope is that late-stage Millenials and Gen Z survey the ruined landscape and reject the the failed ideology.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

Three percent of children are homeschooled now. The deterioration of our social institutions is going to make that climb, and the established powers are going to start trying to clamp down.

Luckily for us, there are radical homeschool advocates at both sides of the political spectrum. When push comes to shove. even most progressives will defend their children against the zeitgeist.

The others will pretend to be fine as their sons are getting their dicks chopped off.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  ConservativeFred
1 month ago

Generally speaking, we late Millennials are more skeptical of powerbitchery than our predecessors. Many of us grew up in the golden age of “game.” Indeed, so many of my peers were pussified that I frequently punched well above my weight. Nothing like punching an overweight woman.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I have one question for every young man that visits this site: do you even lift? If you don’t then you deserve what you get. skinny jeans are for fags, not for men. read this by Henry Rollins for a sense of what you are missing: https://www.oldtimestrongman.com/articles/the-iron-by-henry-rollins/ Here’s a taste: The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

heh looks like a couple of incels disagree with my recommendations. pansies forever, eh bois?

Frip
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I saw Henry open for Jane’s Addiction in early 90’s. Didn’t know who he was at the time. Guy was funny though. He only wore black shorts (no shoes even) and would strike an aggressive pose and just stare provokingly at the crowd. It was dorky yet somehow not. Kinda like Henry himself. Here’s a short video celebrating the heartfelt connection between artist and fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uQB4pyTrmc

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I love Rollins Band’s “Liar”. This is certainly a common male way to handle women, but not necessarily one we’ve been discussing here 😀

Alzaebo
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

No better way to get in touch with your inner male. If you have no money or skills, you can always work on yourself.

Member
1 month ago

The positions women play on the team of life are constantly changing. Most men prefer ladies. We are drowning in a sea of chicks. A rose by any other name begins with a C. Ladies are treated very differently than floozies ball busters and bitches. Aren’t they? You bet they are. Gyno schmyno.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
1 month ago

For you young guys, get in a field that pays well and has <10% women, and that percentage is not increasing. Then you can compete with other men and make enough to support a wife and kids. Also, don't live in some ludicrously expensive and liberal place like CA or NYC.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

Yeah, find a job that’s too complex for Mexicans, too dirty for women, and cannot be outsourced to Bangalore. E.g. plumbing, electric, HVAC, …

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/whos-smart-one-kelly-kevin

They won’t get married because Kelly thinks Kevin’s job is low-status, and Kevin doesn’t want to get stuck paying Kelly’s college debt.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

This “status” thing needs to be worked on. In reality, the status today of a college degreed individual should be less than the status of a certified tradesmen. And the tradesmen themselves might be the worse offenders in some cases. Years ago, The county redid all the roads inside the neighborhood. A rare event in this bankrupt berg, but welcome. The day came when they did the road immediately in front of our home. I got the kids and the camera out to watch. I commented on the work done, how the truck driver came behind the machine to spread… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

That status imbalance will never be fixed until TV/Movies are dead. Its too ingrained and signals from these overwhelm traditional in-community signaling of 50 years ago.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Tail end of the 80’s I worked an air hammer in burned out structures and refractories without safety protection for $20/hr, sufficient then to feed a family, as a summer job. Come October I was still coughing up black soot after rugby practice back at university. I also was a skilled amateur software programmer but I hadn’t wanted to advertise myself as a nerd, the lowest of the low. However the black soot convinced me to apply to a part-time programming job on campus, they hired me, and I earned $20/hr in a cushy environment thence. I have never considered… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

All people should attempt to improve their situation as time and talent dictate—nothing wrong there. I worked as a fry cook before attending college. One night, I was at a new job and two other cooks I was working with were talking. They were like old white guys with gray hair. I was a punk kid 19 or so. One said to the other that this was a pretty good job as they were getting $20 a shift. Well, so was I, and whereas it kept me in gas and beer, there was no way I was going to wind… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

We can talk about what WE did back in the day … until the cows come home I have met too many middle class guys that have let their wives raise their sons and the result is a disgrace. A shrug.

A bugman, often times.

It’s about what we pass down. Male children have to be made into men by men. No excuses – look around and see what has happened and you won’t need an internet post to clue you in.

Are your sons wusses? If so, you failed.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

HomerB, how do we convert our male children from dysfunctional families into men who can raise men and complement a woman again? How to redirect females so they serve our community and themselves? The small hat influencers simply accept the dysfunction for their tribe, it’s always a death spiral, crash and relocation for them over millennia. The scriptures won’t transport us there on their own. Z is correct we need to change societal culture.

Ned2
Ned2
Member
1 month ago

Excellent essay.
Let’s hope we’ll turn the corner culturally with this “viral” event.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

If you recall in 2008-2011 they loved sing the term “man-cession.” “It’s not just a recession, it’s a man-cession.” This was commentary from the media hags. In a way, there was a hidden misandry to it because at no time did the commentary expand to what can be done about this. The next recession, and it’ll be a big one, will be the “gyne-cession.’ All those little service and paper pushing jobs filled by women are going to feel it, including “non-profits.” – entities where there is no profit after large salaries are paid. Huge swaths of the economy, mostly… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

The trades and “dirty jobs” will always be with us. Most women won’t go there.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Ha! Dutch, you nailed that one. As a former water treatment op, water distribution op and hydro dam op, women constantly complained men got better pay…not fair. I replied train up to do my job, work shift work, get dirty and careful of the black widow spiders in valve pits plus an occasional rattle snake. No….I’d leave out the bit about the spiders and the snakes. Not a single woman within the water company nor from the outside transferred in for me to train them up. Only 2 lesbians…what’s up with that? Running a lot of guy energy I guess.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Range Front Fault
1 month ago

Range – I didn’t want the hassle of a dog when the kids were little, and then my older one got into the period of his fascination with critters (now he has his girlfriend and her dog). So he had a corn snake which grew huge, and then we added some lizards in a separate aquarium. Yours truly had to buy the mice and crickets to feed them . . . and I did not grow up a country girl. But as a mom of boys, you do what you gotta do.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

He feeds the snake, or the snake gone. Those kinds of rules are how my sons were raised. My wife honored me by abiding and now can look at her strong, masculine sons with pride.

My wife’s sister has a good for nothing son. He was not raised by the same rules as mine.

Sounds harsh? You got that right.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  HomerB
1 month ago

HomerB – We’re on the same page. I had to go buy the food because my kid was way too young to drive (I think he was 8?); he then fed the critters. Crickets have always grossed me out and a freshly killed mouse in a paper bag wasn’t too great either. But he was not cleaning the cages and I got tired of it, and then snake was gone. I laid down a line and stuck to it.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Drove by utility work by the side of a main road into town today. Guys operating the truck and the guy in the cherry picker way up by the top of the light pole were all white! Even the fella putting the orange cones out was white. Sometimes the “grrrlz” have summer jobs putting out the cones/barrels.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

“The next recession, and it’ll be a big one, will be the “gyne-cession.’ Not if our information comptrollers have anything to do with it.

My prediction is that, once this damage all becomes apparent, they will go into overdrive blaming it on the (briefly) controlled borders. It will be tagged as the “white suprema-cession” and a slew of ((talking heads)) will instruct us that the lesson to be gleaned is that open borders is vital to prosperity.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 month ago

The strength of the bond of sisterhood has impressed me. Feminists and their sympathizers form a group as tightly cohesive as blacks or jews. I would have expected their ability to birth life would cause them to bond with their children or their men more strongly than other women, but that is wrong.

The media/academy has a huge role in influencing their choice of feminism over family. They may have chosen differently if our enemies weren’t in control.

We must make an offer more appealing than their own job and money, single parenthood, and abortion.

Frip
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Have you heard of The Iron Maidens? Singer is obese, but sings better than older Dickenson. They’re good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X6UDcUFlOQ

For non-fat, hot Swiss lead singer, check out Burning Witches covering Dio’s “Holy Diver”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4IGuiBySV4

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Frip
1 month ago

Great stuff, although I have no interest in women doing metal.

That’s one of the contradictions of high pitched metal singing: they sometimes sound like women or shrieky little girls (Robert Plant and King Diamond).

Frip
Member