A Bridge Too Far

The other day, I witnessed a Korean complain about whites using “WuFlu” or “Kung Flu” to describe the Chinese flu. He claimed that he and his family have been the victims of harassment, because angry whites are blaming China for the flu. Because white people are raging racists, we cannot tell the difference between Koreans and Chinese, so Koreans are getting the business from roving mobs and angry whites. It’s all nonsense, but not surprising. Hating white people is the national pastime.

This event happened on a message board, so I took the opportunity to remind the Korean guy that many white people lost family members saving his people from the clutches of communism. If not for white people, he would be standing in a rice paddy or pushing a wooden boat along a diseased river. That assumes he would be alive, as the life expectancy of Koreans was quite low until white people arrived. In a sane world, he would spend one day a year thanking white people.

If there is to be just one line to describe the history of white people on this planet, it should be “No good deed goes unpunished.” White people literally pulled the world out of the dark ages, but the world remains an ungrateful place. Asians in America are now working on their grievance tales, about how the round-eye was mean to them during the great yellow pandemic of 2020. The fact that they would be eating bugs and living in huts if not for the white man is conveniently forgotten.

One has to wonder if this is a bridge too far. Whites can tolerate ungrateful blacks, because of slavery. There’s also the fact that left to their own devices, blacks revert to a Neolithic lifestyle. Without white people, Africa would look like a Tarzan movie. This is something even the most far-left person knows, even if they refuse to admit it. White people feel obliged to help Africans, despite the lack of gratitude. It remains to be seen if the same dynamic can hold up with Asians.

Asia is not Africa. After the war, Japan rebuilt itself with the help of America and joined the modern world quite quickly. Korea took a lot longer, but once they found the right strongman, he pulled his people into the modern world. Again, massive help from America made it possible, but they eventually made it. Other Asian societies have joined modernity in fits and starts. Even Vietnam, which is one of the most backward places in Asia, has slowly modernized over the last few decades.

China, of course, is the elephant in the room. It was a backward, barbaric madhouse through the 1970’s. Before Deng Xiaoping dragged his country out of the dark ages of Maoism, it was one of the most dysfunctional societies on earth. Even so, she went from barbarism to modernity at a remarkable rate. China is still very Chinese, but China is not Africa. In fact, all of Asia has the human capital to avoid being Africa, even if the West turns its back on the continent. They don’t need us.

The same applies in America. Asians have never suffered much in the way of discrimination in America. The Japanese internment always gets brought up, but that was thoroughly justified. War is never pleasant. Otherwise, white people in America have welcomed Asians into the country and allowed them to make what they will of themselves and Asians have done quite well. East Asians have a median household income of $85,349 compared to $57,865 for whites.

Without the burden of slavery or low human capital, it seems like a hard sell to convince whites to feel guilty toward Asians. In fact, the result of such an effort could very well be the opposite, a resentment toward an ungrateful minority of visitors. Asking Africans to head back to their ancestral homeland is unreasonable. Asking Asians to go back to their homelands is not so unreasonable. Korea is a sparkling first world country, so if Koreans are unhappy in America, planes leave daily for Seoul.

Then there is that China problem. It is highly probable that China poisoned the world, causing massive damage and suffering. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe it would have happened anyway, but the evidence is clear that China lied to the world about the nature of this virus and where it started. No amount of special pleading can cause white people to overlook this. Western politicians, despite their lunacy, will have no choice but to address the China problem, even if that makes the other Asians sad.

It is not just the virus or the lying about it. People forget that the Chinese tried to poison the world’s pets a few years back. In 2007, many brands of cat and dog foods had to be recalled due to contamination with melamine. The Chinese also poisoned our toothpaste with toxic chemicals. Go way back and we have the expression “sand bagging” from the way dishonest Chinese tea merchants tried to cheat their European customers. This is what’s called a pattern of behavior.

To Westerners, Asian habits are barbaric, but not primitive. Again, Asians are not backward people like Africans. Asians know better, but choose to eat dogs and cats and turn pests into bizarre delicacies. They choose to poison our pet food. With choice comes responsibility. If Asians choose to do these things, then the West has no choice but to turn its back on Asians. As we see with the virus pandemic, as a matter of survival, the West will have reevaluate its relationship with China.

That’s what makes the effort by Asians in America to play the victim card seem like a bridge too far. They can file their complaints with the office of grievances, but that line is very long. The reason the line is especially long is social distancing means everyone has to stand six feet apart. That and half the staff is working at home in order to avoid being too close to one another. No, there will not be a pogrom against Asians, but whitey is in no mood to hear their complaints.


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joey junger
joey junger
1 month ago

Asians are another thing that the quantitative types on our side of the aisle get wrong. I don’t care what the Chinese mean IQ is. They don’t have souls.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

“Are you stupid, Uriel? Japanese people don’t have souls!” – South Park, Season 9 Episode 4

joey junger
joey junger
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Maybe I’m being a little too harsh on them. In the same way that certain insects collectively have a mind once they’re in a herd formation, the same could be true of the Chinese. One-thousand of them taken together perhaps have a soul.

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

I used to laugh back in the 80s when a friend of mine would often refer to the “immorality of the Asian mind.” Now I don’t laugh.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

To my way of thinking the Asian mind is not so much IM-moral as DIFFERENTLY moral. For good or ill, we of European descent live under an ethos and morality that is HEAVILY steeped in Christianity. Asia remains – TO THIS VERY DAY – profoundly pagan.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Bill, once again, religion and culture are downstream from genetics. There are plenty of putative Christians in China – and in Korea. And tons of them come here, buy buildings from formerly White churches, repaint the roof and door in keeping with fung shui and various superstitions, and worship in their own language and still manage to retain their ethnic identity and ‘different’ morals – despite their pastiche of Christianity. Re-read Zman 13 April on Integralism and its fatal flaw.

Hoyos
Hoyos
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Not really no. I have met many Asian Christians and while they still have some cultural hangovers (my own Celtic and Germanic ancestors took centuries to fully Christianize), they are almost a different species from their pagan brothers and sisters. They are intelligible. They are my brothers and sisters and far closer to trustworthy than the apostate liberal American white. Genetics is being used like some sort of augury here. If it’s all materialist determinism, then even this conversation doesn’t matter. You really can’t prove religion and culture as downstream from genetics, at all, the science isn’t there.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Hoyos
1 month ago

the thing is, Asian Christians will probably remain a minority in their countries, at least for a while, unless they can keep growing and take power (could happen, at least they attempt to breed more than secular Asians). added to the probably slightly different genetic makeup (because populations within a race are similar, but not the same), they are stigmatized as pro-Westerners too. ergo both genetics and culture interplay, as culture tends to be controlled by the genetic (sub)group in power. i agree that this blog is pretty much more sober NRx talk, but still has the slight drawback of… Read more »

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

the Christian/Western pastiche or whatever, makes some Others easier to deal with than the pagan Others. and less willing to hate us, too. see Imperial Japan when it got too high off of Shinto. it’s not like Westerners were occupying Japan as they were China (which is the excuse the Chinese have for imperializing over Westerners right now, “remember the martyred Boxers!”); and yet the Japanese simply got high off their pagan faith, combined it with secular irredentist nationalism, and didn’t stay within their national borders. contra all the folk religion nationalists here, they tried to enslave other Asians by… Read more »

Hoyos
Hoyos
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

I had a boss from China once. He told me there are parts of southern China where eating live baby mice is a delicacy. Hearing the squeak and getting to the crunch was part of the experience. It was one of the cruelest things I’ve ever heard.

Lowe
Lowe
Reply to  Hoyos
1 month ago

Do you realize that if you did that, the mouse would shit in your mouth, as you ate it? I am not saying it is untrue, but I think that is worth pointing out.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Hoyos
1 month ago

don’t knock until you’ve tried it. babies are delicous.

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Seriously, they are the perfect citizen for 2020, raw consumerism on steroids. Their attempts to graft themselves onto the civil Rights religion is just an acknowledgement that they have even less culture than the oppressive white man. Think of the typical tiger mom and dad, what do they actually DESIRE for their children? To become a doctor, yes, but not with the goal of saving lives or bettering the world. Only to increase the amount of vulgar materialism they can practice. The culture doesn’t really emphasize art, beauty, sadness, or joy. That’s why they fit so well in upper middle… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

This is what the HBD crowd means when they say we are different and not interchangeable. They may be smart, but they are NOT us.

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
1 month ago

Nonsense, the HBD crowd is essentially the white version of Asian culture. They only care about quantifiable traits and outcomes.

Do you think Steve Sailer looks at the Sistine Chapel and is in awe of it’s beauty and expression of devotion on the part of Michelangelo? Or do you think he is impressed with the material effort it took to create it, the man hours, the scaffolding.

I’d say it’s the latter.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

What the eff do you know about how Steve Sailer reacts to the Sistine Chapel? Punk.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

As a longtime reader of Sailer, I’d say he’s impressed by both. He started out as a movie critic for UPI, and regularly reviews movies at Taki. He’s an appreciator of the aesthetics of art, music, and of course, golf course architecture.

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

I forgot about the golf course architecture thing. What a strange cat.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

his cultural tastes are of the typical white boomer with silly baseball and golf addictions.

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  d.deacon
1 month ago

You must be right. Not like it matters in the long haul, the HBD guys are aging out and in 10 years will be gone entirely.

They seem fine, just a little too autist for my taste, and I don’t think anyone needs another generation of graphs and datasets.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

Cause, you know, there is no such thing as two emotions mutually arising.

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

My impression of Sailer is as the kind of person who looks at a Renaissance painting the same way they look at the Hoover Dam. Maybe I’m mistaken and there’s a deep romantic side of him but I just don’t see it. I don’t see that in much of the HBD crowd.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

Protestants preferred dry still-life paintings to actual images of the Saints. that religiocultural tendency, based on Luther’s iconoclastic reading, might have got then imprinted through selective breeding in Prot societies. they did always love their fir trees, however the religious aspect makes the genetic imprint stronger over time.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

Anecdote: during a very brief career ca 2000 with a tiny firm with HQ in DC (It was a sub-sub-contractor), 8A firm Chinese owned. I had some contact with Chinese workers. Those with children would send their kids to “Chinese school” (no idea of percentages). In a way that’s good: Even in the affluent DC area, you’ll probably get higher quality at the average private academy. They want to teach their offpspring some of the mother land’s culture. This is both good and bad. Good to remember traditions, bad in the sense that it hinders assimilation. Still at the end… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Far better to hemorrhage population than to fill the US with low trust competitors who have a completely different civilizational model .

Son on those grounds how about a near zero or net negative immigration policy restricting everyone save for a few Whites who share our world view.

And note if you are unwilling to pay the cost to a solid well educated workforce than well do without.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

see? atheists can’t be based.
not to mention, blessed Confucius and Lao Tse would like a word. even the hardcore CCP allows them now. much more so the Chinese emigre schools, half of which want to even teach traditional Chinese letters. they realized Mao wasn’t god enough.

Member
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

Same sort of thing seems to happen to Persians here.

Member
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

I spent quite a bit of time in Japan back in about 2000 for work. What I came away with was that the Japanese are indeed a very soulless people. Their “religion” is merely a quaint series of traditional practices rather than a moral guide, and most young Japanese don’t even practice that. The kind of horrific degenerate hentai pornography displayed right out in the open was frankly embarrassing to me: pedophilia, bestiality, torture porn, you name it. The society is overrun with rampant consumerism to a degree that is parodic. They take the forms of Western holidays like Christmas… Read more »

Trapped on Clown World
Trapped on Clown World
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I believe it was Roger Scruton (I could be wrong about the source) that spoke on why East Asia never developed classical music with the level of complexity seen in Europe.

I think it was attributed to Christianity, the idea of sin, repentance, forgiveness. And that it adds something to you. I think it’s that plus the concept of the individual which is missing in East Asia. Take those two things away and you end up in a sterile, if still materially successful, world.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Trapped on Clown World
1 month ago

There’s a whole lot that is ‘attributed’ to Christianity. Can any of it be proven??

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I was traveling on business in Japan years ago. Visited Kyoto (think it was) and Shinto shrines were everywhere. Asked my Japanese colleague / friend to explain Shinto dogma / tenents. Apparently that’s not posssible.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

there’s no tenets, just little shrines you drop a coin into for good luck, collected by the God-Emperor. in return, God-Emperor gives them tentacle hentai and robots to keep them company in their incel-room. but you better not say anything, save face, wear the mask, work 15 hours daily, be a model Japanese. based, right? yeah, but maybe too much… more like, stuck… here some want whites to go back to that… guess that the Platonic pedo-Academy, the Saturnalia, the Coliseum, Eleagabalus, Hypatia, Norse divorced warriorwomen, drugged up herbalists, and the Germanic polygamist cousin-marriers setting fire to ancient pines are… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

well we did firebomb and nuke them. Whatever the problems are with the japs, they haven’t fallen for the trap of welcoming in the world. We, inexplicably have.

Desu Ex
Desu Ex
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

“I spent quite a bit of time in Japan back in about 2000 for work. What I came away with was that the Japanese are indeed a very soulless people.” You mean you absorbed every last bit of left-wing MSM and redditor anti-Japanese propaganda, and rationalized it as your own ideas because you “spent quite a bit of time in Japan” like every other know-nothing who hasn’t ever had an original idea in their lives. The hentai part is the absolute dead giveaway: it has recently become a memetic obsession among the anti-Japanese, even though it is of no consequence… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Who cares about IQ.

They are not my tribe, my extended family, so they should live in their own community. Simple as that.

Let them live as they wish among their own, and I will do the same. It doesn’t need to be anymore complicated than that.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Regarding IQ, it’s arguably worse to be overrun by a high IQ culture than a low IQ one. An elite minority of high IQ Asians has done more damage to middle class White wages than Blacks or Hispanics (Hispanics are mostly a threat to lower class wages — in the same numbers as Asians, they’d be no threat at all). And they very quickly move up in society like sweet Sarah Jeong at the NYT where they shower us with hate and condescension. And that’s not even mentioning a certain stealth minority guilty of the same thing, even much more… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

In the DC area, Asians and Indians are on the rise. Whites don’t like it. Jews really don’t like it because the Asians and Indians play their game.

Whites – even liberal whites – don’t like being lectured by Asians and Indians. It just doesn’t fly. Personally, I like Asians and Indians bitching about white racism because it wakes up a lot of whites,, especially upper middle class whites, who are realizing that this will never end and that their jobs and kids’ futures are threatened by these groups.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Would love to see/hear the Mothers Club/volunteers at DC’s Sidwell Friends School (elite private school) discussing the latest Asian outrage — like whose kids got into Harvard. Although they can’t be doing that now cuz school’s out for . . . a while. Wonder if that means that Harvard won’t be welcoming First Year students in person in the fall?

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

If only. What the 1965 immigration fiasco hath wrought . . .

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

What Vizzini said. I despair of my fellow Scandi nationalists when they argue that we should import Chinamen rather of Arabs.

Middle Easterners’ low IQ, repulsive cultures and despicable religion are their greatest assets – it ensures they’ll never hold any job beyond kebab-pusher, cab driver and token Mohammadan in government jobs. The moment the welfare state collapses, they’ll be remigrating in droves: why starve in Kuffarland when you can starve at home?

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

That is not the way it happens. They vote as a block and once enough numbers you are going to see a lot more decision makers in your govt. Look a the UK the number of English in the Cabinet is declining rapidly. (the top 4 are hindu (previously muslim incumbent), jew, hindu and Johnson who is Turkish/Jewish).

If you do not stop it and repatriate Denmark will end up the same.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

The number of Mohammadans is still less than 10% in Denmark, and talk of repatriation is already starting to pop up in mainstream media. In 2015, the Danish People’s Party won the election by a landslide and were in a position where they traditionally would claim the prime minister’s office. They turned out to be managed opposition, stealth globalists, and declined even to participate in government. In 2019, their vote was cut down to a third. The black pill is that the current parliamentary system has been utterly subverted, but the white pill is that the vote is there. The… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Funny how these keep cropping up in Europe. Like 5Star in Italy.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Felix – Because even chaos in Kuffarland is more affluent and comfortable than chaos at home – plus there will remain the gullible kuffars to cheat and steal from. None of America’s various ‘enrichers’ have left due to corona – they’d much rather be under quarantine in their suburban houses paid for by the government and various charities than under quarantine in their home villages.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Because even chaos in Kuffarland is more affluent and comfortable than chaos at home

Not if they don’t get freebies – they’re not here because of the weather. They hate it here, not just because it’s Kuffarland, but because they are intensely aware how little even their most fanatic champions think of them. They get zero-point-zero respect, they’re beneath even Jews and homos.

Here’s what Swedes really think of them:

https://youtu.be/zkPJCWGnZNQ

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Successful assimilation is most highly correlated with IQ, agreeableness, and openness. Chinese tend to be disagreeable, and Jews even more so.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

I don’t want assimilation. I want separation.

I couldn’t care less if one group is better at acting white than other groups. They aren’t my tribe, my family. They can take my family’s name and speak in our accent, but they will never be us. (That’s no insult to them. It’s just reality, in the same way I could never truly be one of them.)

Assimilation is just another word demographic suicide. I want my people to survive.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

That goal is unattainable. We might feasibly reduce immigration, but the fix is in. The best we can hope for is a smaller influx of the “right” people. I agree with what you’re saying, but if the state is anything like a human life, we’ve got a long way to go before government will even consider reducing immigration. For example, imagine that you barely get out of bed for 30 years. Changing that habit is not just a matter of waking up and saying “I need to exercise.” You have to incrementally become a little less lazy every day to… Read more »

Stina
Stina
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Assimilation done right is conversion. It’s a legitimate means of growth. But good luck finding any immigrant, no matter how “assimilated,” that’s willing to say our culture is better than the culture they came from. “Your ways will be my ways. Your God will be my God.”

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Stina
1 month ago

You are not in reality. It is impossible for people who are a different race to ever fully assimilate. Look at hyphenated american’s voting preferences for one thing…

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

No one has souls. Their problem, so far as we’re concerned, is that they don’t have trust. They don’t trust us, they don’t trust other Asians. Anyone outside their immediate circle is a mark to be cheated. You simply can’t do business with them.

Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

OK, atheist.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

Good point. Today I did some research (ok, two articles) about “Social Credit Theory.” Most of this probably from Wiki: I am surprised to learn that China is a low trust society. Social Credit sounds like a good idea, but always always, the devil in the details! The idea is nothing new, just a high tech version of reputation. In “the old days” say, you were a member of a church where you were known over a period of years, perhaps your whole life. To the extent you remained in a community, your neighbors had an excellent idea of your… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Ben, you nailed it. Real community and high trust go together. China has no community. From our end of things, it makes it easy, because “cancel China” is directed at the CCP, and you don’t get the sob stories of the poor guy in a factory, somewhere, out of a job because you bought domestic. I’m sure the CCP will generate those stories, but they shouldn’t get much traction over here.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Only blaming the CCP is what the globalists want and it’s already working like a charm. Normies are jabbering on and on about how they “don’t have a problem with chinese americans” bla bla bla…As a whole, White Society is totally indoctrinated with the idea that races are interchangable and that everyone has a Right to come here because the normies ancestors “did too”…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Actually social credit idea is quite different. Reputation in the old sense was social control/expectations placed upon you by your own people. People like you. People immersed in the same expectations and unalterable traditions you were immersed in. You knew the game. Behaved like a whore you were labeled a whore. A liar a liar. A cheat then you were the dishonorable. Those restrictions also reflected the greater prohibitions of Christianity and the Western tradition so they lay within an even larger framework. Social Credit is imposed by people that don’t reflect your own people and is subject to change… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

Sure, we have souls. Doesn’t have to be exclusive to the metaphysical.

John Smith
John Smith
Member
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Hmmmmm. No.

I was past the last bridge quite awhile ago. The chinks, the noggers, the queers, and the left in general can go collectively suck a fart.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Nah. Honesty too many of these comments here are looking down on Asians for my taste.

They have their own traditional culture and traditional values. Fine. I don’t care whether they are “soulless” or not.

They are not my people so we should be separate. Frankly I don’t care whether they have ‘souls’ or not and probably they think we have weird personality traits they can’t understand.

We’re all different, but not inherently bad. Not even Africans. I just want to live with my own people, though.

phoenix
phoenix
Reply to  UFO
1 month ago

UFO, nothing says we’re f’ed like coming to a so-called nazi hate white supreemacist website-and Even Here seeing seeing the virtue signaling…
Those who don’t think Western Civilization is superior are about as useful as a football player who doesn’t think his team is any good…

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Never underestimate the level to which normie Whites have been conditioned to hate themselves.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

We’ve been taught by the best self-hating group out there.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Five hundred years of being on top and a very clever 5th column minority pushing their agenda can lead a people to believe very stupid things.

Don’t worry, though. Nature – that wonderfully unmerciful bitch – hates wimps and will not put up with silliness for long. Whites either grow a pair and become tribal again, or we will blend into a strong group.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I dunno, nature’s incomplete without man. And wimps have been doing better lately. Look at how many strong, principled men were torn down by crowds of effete punks.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

Trust fund kids can act very stupid for a long time, but sooner or later, the money runs out. Nature works over generations, not decades.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

There’s also the possibility that the strong can make power inaccessible to the currently weak, curtailing their chances of social mobility.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

In fact, I argue that this is exactly what’s happening. Throughout western society, various forms of social and personal weakness are being encouraged — and sometimes even touted as virtues. The problem is becoming perennial to humankind itself.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

They don’t hate themselves, they hate other whites.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Thanks, Felix. That needs to remembered.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

How many of them consider themselves White?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

There’s that too.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Never understood the white man’s burden. Some busybody BS

BadThinker
BadThinker
1 month ago

We need to be printing out #CancelChina posters and putting them up everywhere.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

A colleague of mine is a Korean, brought to this country and cared for by white parents who adopted her. A few years ago she changed her last name back to her ancestral Korean name. Honestly, not a big deal, as where one comes from still matters, even if adopted. Unfortunately it’s slowly progressed to your usual prog victim bandwagon, complete with hectoring people who call COVID19 The Chinese flu and is trying to bask in those sweet, sweet, victim points.

No good deed goes unpunished indeed.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

She has a great career in journalism ahead of her.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Biology triumphs. The next logical step would be for her to return to Korea. Some adoptees have, but they are not accepted by Koreans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/18/magazine/why-a-generation-of-adoptees-is-returning-to-south-korea.html

She could have lived in an orphanage and grew stunted due to malnutrition and despised due to probable illegitimacy, but she would have remained with her own kind.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

The Kaepernick Effect.

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Funny thing is, most of the “anti-Asian” incidents of the last couple months have been by blacks, in the typical black way. The Asians have to pretend that it’s mostly whites doing it. They understand that they cannot bitch publicly about Africans lest Jews accuse them of white supremacy, even though they are yellow.

I wonder what their dinner table conversations are like. “Can you believe how crazy white people are?”

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Tarstarkusz
1 month ago

“The Asians have to pretend that it’s mostly whites doing it.” How true. A video was very popular among single women a few years back of a woman walking New Yowk collecting 94, I think it was, minor to major cat-calls and physical interventions. Four offenders were white men. None of the complaining is made to the offending groups ever.

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Yes, I remember that video. Most of it was black men saying mostly unoffensive things and feminists kvetching about it. There was a later video of a guy getting attention from women and they were way more aggressive.

Bill_Mullins
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Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Was she adopted at/shortly after birth or was she a toddler or even older? In my experience non-whites adopted as infants tend to be less likely to follow their biology than those adopted as toddlers or older. I speak as one who raised a “full-blood” Japanese infant (8 days of age) and who knows people and has family who have adopted non-whites – both infants and children. I have occasionally observed my Daughter affecting certain classic Japanese mannerisms. I have also observed her acting very much like either my wife or myself. Intellectually, she is very much my daughter. I… Read more »

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

> Was she adopted at/shortly after birth or was she a toddler or even older?

A good question I do not know the answer to.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

There’s also the current fashion for Whites to adopt Black babies. A loving family and healthy environment can only do so much to overcome a negative genetic inheritance. The offspring of a welfare mamma and gangbanger isn’t going to grow up to be a Rhodes scholar. The pull of biology will probably pull the adoptee back into the Black world.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

Romulus and Remus were raised by an adoptive mother of a completely different species, the results were mixed.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
1 month ago

You saw the adopted black daughter’s boyfriend who killed the 2 adoptee white liberal UW Madison professors?

Raised in a world white as rice, still ends up with a gangbanger boyfriend and then they end up dead.

Genes create the culture, not the other way around.

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Adoption and twin studies show over and over and over that biology trumps nurture. That is not to say biology isn’t at least somewhat plastic. However, like real plastic, there are limits. Also, nurture can do a lot more damage than it can do good. Like starving a child can make them really dumb, but feeding it properly isn’t going to make it smarter. Depriving them of school will make them ignorant, but putting them in school will do no good if the biology isn’t there.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Bill, with all respect, your daughter may well be as you say, but unicorns are still rare and nothing to base generalized assumptions on. Even two children from the same biological parents and identical environment can be dramatically different – ask me how I know. Environment is a transient and far secondary factor to genetics, always.

Reziac
Reziac
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Untaught physical mannerisms are inherited. We see this very strongly in purpose-bred dogs — frex lines of pointing dogs that exhibit a particular style of point, and this mannerism is predictable if you know the pedigree.

I just had an old mannerism crop up in my line of working Labradors (14 generations now) that I last saw in the late 1980s… and have traced to a terrier crossbreeding ca.1940.

Next time you attend a family reunion, watch folks who are related by parentage but did not grow up together. You may discover a lot of family mannerisms, once you know to look.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Chet – I’ve read stories online about Korean adoptees here returning to their homeland and finding they don’t quite fit in there, either. So they reject everything their adoptive parents and country did for them, but remain in a sort of limbo in Korea, associating only with other pseudo-westernized Koreans. Pace John Derbyshire, Inter-racial/inter-cultural families/adoption generally does not end well for the children. There was a Korean (paper-American) working at the embassy in Singapore. His wife (described by him as a ‘fanatical’ Christian) had just had their second daughter, to his great disappointment. I was expecting our first at the… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Japanese professionals, working abroad in the west discover that upon returning home after more than one year abroad that their school age children are not accepted by their peers. All that despite westmania among the young.

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 month ago

Back when they had a measure of good sense, white Americans didn’t always welcome Asians; there was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and efforts to keep out both Chinese and Japanese from the U.S., and especially from California. The AmRen site has had an article on this subject in the last day or so. But, as the Z-man notes in the case of internment of Japanese in the U.S. in World War II, the efforts to keep Chinese and Japanese out were totally justified. I know someone who lives in Vancouver, British Columbia and she says Chinese dislike of… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I’ve been to Manzanar; those interred there weren’t thrilled to be there but they understood.

If you’re ever in middle of nowhere California, be sure to go. The museum is actually pretty even-handed and not over White-hating.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

When it comes to the Japanese internment you will see an awful lot of screaming from leftie types about racism and tyranny and so forth. I don’t recall actually seeing all that much complaining coming from Americans of Japanese descent themselves. The thing that anybody who complains about the internment conveniently forgets about is that spying by Japanese agents was a real concern in the US as well as a number of countries south of the US border. My mother in law has a newspaper from 1936 that has a page 5 story in it about concerns of Japanese “enemy”… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

You never hear the interned Germans whining about it.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

That’s because, for all intents and purposes, there weren’t any. The Germans and Italians looked like “us” and so were not singled out like the Nisei were.

Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Not a lot, but more than 11,000 Germans were interned during WW 2.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

So, per capita, more interned Germans than Chinese Flu deaths!

Chris_Lutz
Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

No, the aftermath of WWI led to the crushing of most things German in the US. The gov’t came in and put an end to things like worship services in German, etc. They had a reason because there were serious acts of sabotage during WWI. Which by the way, is why the gov’t wasn’t taking chances in WWII.

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

No one heard Joe Dimaggio complain either that his dad’s fishing boat was confiscated for the war.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

To be fair, no one heard Joltin’ Joji Diyakawa complain either…

Chris_Lutz
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

You want to check out Magic: The Untold Story by Lowman. He goes through the intercepts the gov’t had to explain why it chose internment. Oh, and yes the Japanese did complain a lot. One reason he wrote the book was to counter the restitution folks.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

Directly after Pearl Harbor, thousands of Japanese in America renounced their US citizenship. Make of that what you will.

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

Fun fact seldom mentioned: The Canadian Government interred their west coast Japanese population in “work camps” beginning in 1942, under conditions considerably more draconian than those prevailing in the horrible, racist US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Canadians#Internment_camps_2

Arbeit macht frei.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

Cal; In the standard book about Pearl Harbor, namely At Dawn We Slept, it is obvious but very carefully understated that local Japanese in Hawaii materially aided the IJN (Imperial Japanese Navy) espionage that made that attack so effective. So, yes, US concerns about Japanese residents having dual loyalty were not unjustified. Although it was true that by far most Japanese were loyal US residents or citizens, it only took a few to make a big difference in the case of Pearl Harbor. So you can imagine how it might look to US decision makers before it became clear in… Read more »

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Manzanar was only one of the camps. One of my Grandfathers was a carpenter and helped construct the Japanese internment camp outside of Monahans,Texas.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

“The museum is actually pretty even-handed and not over White-hating.” That is a miracle almost on par with the immaculate conception.

Bunny
Bunny
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

One time I went to the Chinese grocery in our little Chinatown and a Chinese lady was very nice to me and helped me find what I was looking for. I ❤ my Vietnamese dentist and Korean dental hygienist. They always send me an email on my birthday! Lol, it’s true.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Bunny
1 month ago

Before you downvote this, read it in the tenor of a wine mom.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Bunny
1 month ago

Well Trolled.

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

It is, but I actually do like my Vietnamese dentist, who is really not a likeable fellow. But I drew out of him that when he was 14 his parents were off being re-educated and he took his 12 year old sister and left in those awful boats, picked over twice by pirates, quarrantined etc. That type never play the hate whitey game. Maybe their kids do.

Hoyos
Hoyos
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Ha! My tailor once upon a time was Vietnamese, fought for ARVN. Love the Vietnamese, like Cubans, zero sympathy for the commies.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

The funny thing is we always had a strange “love/hate” relationship with the Japanese. The industrialization post Meji restoration was one of the under appreciated economic miracles of the time–frankly the Chinese look like pikers under Deng. Japanese immigration always had a “special” status compared to Chinese–including Roosevelt’s “Gentlemen’s Agreement”. Plus they were accorded Great Power status at Versailles and the subsequent international agreement (Washington Naval Treaty, etc.). The 1924 Act caused a break, when Japanese were fully excluded from entry.

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I don’t think white people are self-loathing in any real way. I think the problem is that white people don’t think of themselves as white, they do not have a white identity.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
1 month ago

I like that about us. Many different national and regional flavors. But then some of us take that idea of diversity too far. It’s another one of those paradoxes.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I disagree that the internment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII was justified. Anyone who knows much of anything about Japanese culture knows that Japanese who emigrate become solid citizens of their adopted nation. With few exceptions, there were no more loyal citizens than the Nisei. While there may have been sleeper agents among them, the vast majority of Nisei were every bit as loyal as any other Americans. I would have been much more suspicious of German or Italian immigrants – even 2nd or 3rd generation born here – than of any Japanese-Americans. You see, I took the time while… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

A long, long time ago, spent quite a bit of research time on the origins and Congressional debates on the 1924 Immigration Act. Despite historical revisionism, Congress was taking a gimlet eyed stare at what was importing itself from Europe and rightfully concluded that stocking up on leftist radicals was not a good idea. Unfortunately, the Japanese got tacked on for exclusion, mostly due to Valentine McClatchy and his newspaper chain stirring up resentments and convincing reps from CA to tack on that language.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

So Sam, you are pro democrat voting, asian immigration then..
Like I said before, even many of our ‘racist nazis’ are cucks…we are f’ed.

Chris_Lutz
Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

No one is saying every Japanese-American citizen would betray the US. However, history showed that good proportion would. 1. If a Japanese family elected to pull up stakes and emigrate to the U.S., they were burning their bridges and knew it. There was no turning back. Every person of Japanese descent born in the US was considered a Japanese citizen and encouraged to register with Japan. 2. Their children were encouraged to get an education in Japan and a significant number did. 3. The Philippines and China showed that once Japanese troops showed up, the local Japanese population immediately set… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I worked for years with a lady from Carmel who was interred with her family in 1942. She obtained her high-school diploma at 16 and wasleft free to go directly to college in Chicago in 1944. She said her father, a very tradidional Japanese man, sat them down when the order came through and told them that no matter what happened now they would be all right, America was a good country, life would straighten out in time, and that they must be eternally grateful they were not in Japan. A member of the Tamiatsu family here in Las Vegas… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Mom befriended two California Japanese girls in a Nevada camp.

A handsome young man showed up.
He fell for one of the sisters, and she for him.

After the war, he returned home to take up a good position in the Occupation government.

It turns out he was a prince from a family of minor royalty. Some sent their sons to America for internment so they would be safe from the war.

When settled, he called his fiance to him in Japan and married her, making her a princess! A true-life Cinderella story.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

ps- one of my high school chums in Nevada- white dad, Korean mom- also married a Korean royal in an arranged marriage.

He came to our 10-year reunion, to show us his gold golf clubs in the trunk of his Porsche.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

The USA had best re-learn how to do its own manufacturing again, before we clamp down too hard on our yellow cousins across the western sea 🙂

Reziac
Reziac
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

No worries! if things get too difficult for our manufacturing interests, we might not have any surplus food to ship to our yellow cousins across the western sea….

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

My several experiences in Vancouver was not so much active dislike, but more that whites were simply invisible.

Felix Krull
Member
1 month ago

Asians know better, but choose to eat dogs and cats and turn pests into bizarre delicacies. Not to mention that they use endangered animals in their folk remedies. It is, in fact, an established principle in Chinese “medicine” that the rarer the animal, the more potent the medicine. A family friend is geologist and related that sometimes in the mid-seventies, he was at one of the first international academic conferences in China after the Cultural Revolution. “See, this rock looks like a tiger, which must mean that…” Aghast, it dawned on him, that their classification was based, not on chemistry… Read more »

Felix Krull
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Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

One more Chank anecdote.

A friend of mine works in wireless network encryption and is often in Singapore on business. One evening, he is taking beer with his colleagues and an American guy remarks that Chinese are unable to think in the abstract. A Chinese colleague of theirs protests vehemently.

“Fine”, the American says, “explain what a computer is.”

The Chinaman stares at him for a few seconds before pointing to his laptop “That is a computer”.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

“…an American guy remarks that Chinese are unable to think in the abstract.”

It’s true though! East Asian art demonstrates it. Traditional paintings from various countries’ “old masters” looks more or less the same across the spectrum. Auction prices for a handful of Chinese artists apparently worth collecting don’t really approach some any number of individual Western artist’s entire bodies of work.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

yeah, here is a typical non-abstract thinker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiing-Shen_Chern

David_Wright
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Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

They are Moties.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

I’m trying to think of something handy they’ve invented in the past 100 years. Not having much luck.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

Does Chinese checkers count?

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

My less sardonic reply. Read this book:
The Man Who Loved China: The Fantastic Story of the Eccentric Scientist Who Unlocked the Mysteries of the Middle Kingdom.
Story of a Cambridge professor named Joesph Needham. From his perspective – China essentially invented everything that was ever worth inventing.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
1 month ago

All innovation is in the area of better espionage – which makes it not so visible. Of course, they probably steal most of their espionage techniques too.

Hoyos
Hoyos
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

GK Chesterton said the lack of theory is why the Chinese were able to develop some engineering but never suspected the existence of physics. Theory gets a bad rap, but it’s necessary for the really big leaps.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Chinese are unable to think in the abstract.

Abstract thought may be the secret blessing, and curse, of Caucasians.

Independant_George
Independant_George
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Was his name Bob Sackamento? 😏

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

I was going to relate several anecdotes but will only point out the obvious that books could be written on the self-imposed obtuse idiocy of the Chinese language.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

Always wondered in the phonetic structure of Western Language was a huge advantage in proliferation of new ideas, as you can easily go from the spoken word to writing by following < 100 phonetic rules.

Chinese, on the other hand, requires memorizing an entirely new symbol for new words/ideas.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

I’ve read the same thing. Certainly plausible. Similarly, “Arabic” numbers (I guess nowadays the PC crowd should call it “numeral system of Indian subcontinental origin”) replaced the Roman not least because it introduced the zero, which is essential for math. Nonetheless, the Romans still did quite well, if you consider many of their engineering and other achievements.

Reziac
Reziac
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

“Roman numerals” were only used on monuments and the like. Rome used Greek numbers for actual math, which included the concept of zero.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Reziac
1 month ago

I did not know that.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

The Chinese invented the typeset press 500 years before the Europeans. And for five hundred years, they used it for printing paper money – a fact they’re extremely proud of.

Two decades after Guthenberg, there were more than a thousand print shops in Europe, and Europe was in the throes of political, philosophical, scientific and religious revolutions.

Same story with gunpowder. In the space of time it took the Chinese to develop artillery rockets into slightly less ineffectual artillery rockets, the Europeans went from stone cannonballs to machine guns.

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

The European story is the perfect storm, and a storm it was. Different cultures shared the same or similar religion. Different languages with a common root and the very same alphabet connected different cultures just enough that an intra-mural competition was on and the result was unique. Now that the European man is tired and done he’s reverting to the Asian love of uniformity which is man’s default position.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Now that the European man is tired and done he’s reverting to the Asian love of uniformity which is man’s default position.

I trust that genetics will triumph over indoctrination, once the metal meets the flesh. We slaughtered 100 million of our own in the last century alone – I cannot conceive how stupid you’d have to be to think it’s a good idea to make the white boys angry.

Never mind nuclear weapons, but the Belgian army could probably wipe out every Moslem on the planet in a few weeks, if they took the gloves off.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

When the Belgian begins to hate

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  David_Wright
1 month ago

That made me laugh. But I hope the truffles are full of surprises, they should be ripe by now.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

We can hope, Felix. But genetics is a two way road and apparently traveled at higher speeds than we were led to believe. Ed Dutton demonstrates that we have been traveling the wrong way for several generations. My great grandparents won’t be in this fight. The current crop will be, and they are not inspiring.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Moshe Dayan’s answer to the question of how was it possibly that the Jews beat the Arabs in a few days:”Because we were fighting Arabs”. That may end up very differently with the Persians, they are not Arabs but still mohammeddan.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Literate Chinese speakers should have had even more of an advantage with the written word. Even when their dialects are mutually unintelligible, they can make themselves understood with writing.

Reziac
Reziac
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Orientals seem to be very good at extrapolating and detailing once someone shows them a concept, but seem to be very poor at inventing new concepts, or extending old concepts to a different use.

Then again, their genetic culture values conformity, and new ideas are the antithesis of conformity.

China: You can’t do that. It’s impossible.
Chinese: Okay, I won’t do that.

Europe/USA: You can’t do that. It’s impossible.
White dude: Oh yeah? watch me.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Reziac
1 month ago

Henry Ford wrote in My Life, My Work, that he’d fire any guy who started to consider himself an expert. Experts were experts at telling you what couldn’t be done.

For the same reason, he kept no records of the experiments made in his factories because records mostly recorded failures and thus closed off avenues of innovation. Just because some method of iron casting had failed in the past, didn’t mean it wouldn’t work if another guy tried it.

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

There was an excellent post a few years back by a veteran airline pilot who retired and worked in Korea, China, and one other Asian county I don’t remember hired to re-training their pilots in order to reduce the tremendous numbers of pilot error. He failed in every case. They will not take correction of the ways they have been taught because that would disrespect their teachers. And that is how you get Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, and Ho Lee Fuk crashing their 747 short of the runway at San Francisco when every passenger with an aisle seat… Read more »

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

I don’t know any spoken Chinese so I cannot comment but I’m not so sure about their written language. While on the one hand one must learn a different symbol for each new written word, that symbol is the same irrespective of which dialect of Chinese the reader may speak. So a Cantonese-speaking writer may pen a novel which can be read by a Mandarin-speaking reader without any translation being necessary. Japanese is very similar. Their written language (Kanji) is based upon the Chinese written language. In fact a reasonably well educated Japanese person can read a Chinese newspaper with… Read more »

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Let’s not forget our educators were talking about the superiority of the East and pushed Whole Word reading, essentially stripping Western languages of their phonetic roots.

Because who wouldn’t look at what you wrote and say “yeah, let’s copy that.”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Since their rise to developed status, the Koreans, wisely perhaps, abandoned most use of Chinese characters, hanja, and use their own hangul alphabet almost exclusively.

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

In my very, very limited experience the written Chinese is somewhat divorced from the language, as you allude to. Chinese itself is probably one of the easier spoken languages to learn (apart from the vocabulary being completely foreign apart from some one-off coincidences) since it has no conjugations (noun or verb). Where it shares a trait with the written language then is that context is everything. A single kana is almost meaningless. I could bore you with asides, but in the many times I’ve inquired about the meaning of some piece of written Chinese to a Chinese friend I’ve never… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

The problem with spoken Chinese, Mandarin at least, abandoning the use of characters is that it uses only a limited amount of phonetics. There’s an insane amount of homophones, although that’s somewhat ameliorated by the use of tones. There’s no way in Chinese to make new sounds or accurately create phonetic representations of sounds that don’t already exist in the language. Yes, you can read a romanized version of the language, or use the zhuyin fuhao characters that they use to teach children in Taiwan, but if you learn the actual characters, you’ll understand the written word much faster than… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
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Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Young Chinese are rapidly rejecting the old written system to the despair of their elders. One sees the advantage of one written system understood in all languages. On the other hand anything that makes 1.3 billion Han Chinese less uniform is an improvement for them and for us.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

” On the other hand anything that makes 1.3 billion Han Chinese less uniform is an improvement for them and for us.”

Really? What’s in it for me?
What’s wrong with the current meet one and you’ve met em all situation?

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

Mitch; You’re *assuming* a Western frame here. The *point* of the Chinese written language (actually a vast set of ideographic characters) was to maintain elite control of Imperial China. In order to become a ‘Mandarin’ (state official) one had to pass a series of exams where you were tested on your knowledge of traditional Chinese literature and also on how well you formed the characters of your written answers. This knowledge had little practical use except being the entry ticket to the arena of intra-elite competition for the usual prizes of sex power and money. But it had many socio-political… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
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Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Do you mean that they struggle to effectively verbalize complicated processes? If so, yeah, that’s a common issue with spergy kids too. I’ve read that, despite superior memory and mathematical reasoning, they have difficulty processing metaphors

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

A key aspect of the problem with dealing with the CCP is that they began bribing and blackmailing US politicians, business executives, and media power players nearly two decades ago. And that effort has borne much fruit. Much like the Mafia of yore, they own a lot key people in important positions. And this is worldwide, not just the US. As an example, Joe Biden (and his kin) are owned lock, stock, & barrel by the CCP. And half the country wants to make him the next president.

El Eff
El Eff
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

TomA, you are correct and you highlight a very large roadblock, if not the largest roadblock, to “American Reform”. Unless and until people swing, nothing changes.
One thing, my use of the term “American Reform” is not meant to allude to any group or think tank or whatever that might exist now. It’s simply two words I put together for the purposes of communicating a supporting comment to what I consider a prescient observation by the aforementioned commenter.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

Tom;
Actually, it began earlier with, who else, The Clintons. For sure with their fundraising for their election efforts, both first and second times.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

Investor’s Business Daily ran a series indicating that the Clintons in Arkansas were China’s #1 spies in America.

1000 Chinese intelligence front companies in that unnoticed, backwater province, out of the 4000 operating in the US before the most-favored-nation fast-track.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Indeed. the whole Lewinsky impeachment was a complete set up from day one to cover the Clinton’s selling top secret tech to the Chinese. Bill and Hi decided that to be known for a sex scandal was a great cover to drown out the stories that were peeking through, provided a long running impeachment cover and no one in their circles really gives a shit about that stuff. So who cares.

It was manufactured from day one and nothing about it was real.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Perhaps we’re reaching a tipping point on globalization? Yesterday on twitter, something called the George W. Bush Presidental Center (@TheBushCenter) posted this: “When the crisis is over…we must be ready to come together around a new strategy for globalization that secures its benefits and cures its ills.” And linked to this article: https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2020/03/25/globalization_and_resilience_responding_to_the_pandemic_487506.html The “like to reply ratio” was more lopsided than I’ve ever seen on twitter. Thousands of replies, 99.9 percent along the lines of “hell no,” “globalization is what got us into this mess,” “STFU,” “hard pass,” “Pat Buchanan was right,” “enough with globalization”…..and so on….

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Buck Fush.

Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Buck Fush indeed. It was his neo-con infested administration’s cynical response to 9/11 that started this era of endless crisis and government/corporate expansion at the expense of freedom and sanity. There’s a synergy between the state and the corporations in these things too because no matter how insane the latest panic a big enough corporation can always position itself to scoop up some of the profits from whatever mad crusade the political class is pursuing. Corporations in turn “make suggestions” (written on packs of hundred dollar bills) to the politicos about what the next crusade should be. This vicious spiral… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

In da tush.

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
1 month ago

The fact that they would be eating bugs and living in huts if not for the white man is conveniently forgotten.

Thing is, they still eat bugs.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Globalism: Bug eaters and bugmen.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Insects can be nutritious. That said, I’ve only tried chocolate grasshoppers. Meh. We all eat a tiny amount of bugs and other stuff: I remember in middle school a teacher said (correctly so far as I know), that the US government allows a certain number of rat droppings in chocolate bars. Sounds gross, but it is impossible to make the product 100% pure. Many of these differences are merely cultural preferences: billions of people would be sickened at the thought of what millions of Westerners eat for breakfast everyday. I class this as “irrational” (as are many — but not… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Hive mind, bug stomach.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

Maybe it’s the other way around, bug stomach, hive mind lol

Vegetius
Vegetius
1 month ago

American Blacks and East Asians living in America seem to dislike each other at a level that appears to be pre-conscious. Based on what I have heard from men who have served in four different countries in East Asia, this is a universal phenomenon, varying in intensity (or at least obviousness) depending on the locale.

It would be malpractice not to exploit this and similar friction between the other tribes contesting for this continent. But the hall monitors and den mothers of purity always wet themselves when I bring up engaging nonwhites to achieve our own objectives.

Member
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

I remember one of Eddie Murphy’s old comedy routines was a scathing bit on Asians and their “little rice dicks.”

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

“What it’s like to be black in Asia” meme is kind of funny in this regard.

Severian
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

Hear hear. Drives me nuts. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. POCs buy the most Chinese crap out of anybody. They’re also the most viscerally racist people in America (as the Chinese are the most viscerally racist people on earth). #CancelChina first, then address the problems of our former allies in the ‘hood. As a wise man (of Color) once said, this shit’s chess, it ain’t checkers.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

Some of that is probably just tribalism. On the other hand, I’ve never heard that any ethic group likes the Negroid. And, to judge by violent crime statistics, Blacks don’t like Blacks either. “Gotta keep ’em separated!”

During the emergency, please remember to keep racial distancing! 😀

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

I get what you’re saying. Just remeber that while you’re going all Sith Lord channeling the hate, you’d do well to consider how using visas to import Indians with a dot to drive down the cost of tech labor worked out. Or importing Mexicans to do the agricultural stoop labor that enslaved blacks used to do. The solution is not to dabble with engineering non-white gladitorial contests; but for whites to roll up their sleeves, come together as a people, and get her done for ourselves, by ourselves.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maus
1 month ago

Not an either/or prop.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vegetius
1 month ago

Creating blood feuds between non-white groups is sound strategy.

Member
1 month ago

He should go back to Korea where he doesn’t have to deal with such terrible persecution.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Would make (probably already is) a good bumper sticker, at least for a pickup where “open carry” is legal: 🙂

“If you’re so proud of where you’re from, why don’t you go back there???”

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

That Japanese-American guy I’d read way back in the day reflected at times that, even though he was 100% genetic Japanese, they he may as well have been a red-headed Irishman in Japan due to his American accent. It’s as with much else, it’s projection.

Member
1 month ago

Without white people, Africa would look like a Tarzan movie.

Well, but without the heroic White Tarzan to save the day.

Actually, in what way does Africa not look like a Tarzan movie? Except in real life the White saviors are better dressed.

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

The natives now have AKs and Javelin missles instead of spears and rocks with which to kill each other.

Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Good point. So, even worse.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

Never forget that most important of military vehicles, the Toyota Pickup Truck.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Tax Slave
1 month ago

If you ever wondered what would happen if Neolithic men had automatic rifles I have a ticket to the Congo I’d like to sell you.

That said, Africa w/o gun powder, or only for ‘bwanas’, is a pretty adventurous place.

Guy
Guy
1 month ago

It’s disappointing everyday to see formerly rational people fall for the coronavirus nonsense. All the most discredited organizations and professions all telling us about a threat in unison, and people who normally understand they’re all liars swallow it while. There is no pandemic. It’s cool if we can use this to separate from China, that’ll be great. But there’s no reason to pretend this exists, and it only helps people who want us enslaved. Li Wenliang was probably an American agent. Who knows why a ton of people died in China, maybe because China is a toxic shithole, maybe because… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
Member
Reply to  Guy
1 month ago

I notice that all the posturing is starting. There was virtually no push-back on any of this until the good news started being reported. Now the cucks are doing a “social distancing” “protest” in Michigan and other places. Now that they feel relatively safe because of both the good news and lack of bodies, they are taking to the streets pretending to care about liberty.

This is why I know that if/when the gov demands their guns, they will bitch and moan and dutifully turn them in.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
1 month ago

The 2A is a red flag for the bull.

While flapping the 2A flag in his face, the other amendments were taken- the ones the 2nd was meant to protect.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

It took just two months for “The land of the free, the home of the brave” to turn into the totalitarian land of the flea, the home of the plague with nary a whimper from the “Second Amendment is the guarantor of the First Amendment” crowd.
Bit sad really.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  bilejones
1 month ago

If they were going to do something, they would have done it a long time ago. They have retreated from “an armed society will prevent tyranny” to “they can take my guns from my cold dead hands,” but they forgot to add “that is, as long as I die of natural causes”
Besides, they have ridiculous fantasies of bravely fighting the US military like a Taliban. Not only do they have a completely unrealistic view of what it would mean to fight the state, but even if you tell them what is so obviously already happening, they deny it.

Calsdad
Calsdad
1 month ago

Re: ” After the war, Japan rebuilt itself with the help of America and joined the modern world quite quickly.” I would argue that Japan REJOINED the modern world quite quickly – because technologically at least they were pretty well integrated into the modern world well before the war. The Japanese made huge advances in a relatively short period of time after their initial exposure to the Western world. The Russian Navy learned that in 1905. There’s been allegations that the Japanese were experimenting with nuclear technology in Korea during the WW2 time period. Battleships like the Yamato are not… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

In Victorian Anthropology, it was a acknowledge that the Japanese were almost the equal of the white man. But they correctly pointed out that if China united they would dominate the world again.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

Japan is a unique case. They’ve always viewed history in a Western-style linear fashion, as opposed to the cyclical nature of Confucian lands.

It’s probably not a coincidence that Japan is the only place left producing non-POZ television entertainment.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

The Japanese chose to drive on the British side of the road.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  james wilson
1 month ago

Which is one reason the Koreans, out of spite, chose to drive on the right.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Calsdad
1 month ago

I shake my head in wonder watching WWII South Pacific naval battles between US and Japan. How did the Japanese do this? Amazing. They got over their hurt feelings, too, after the war/nuclear bombs and were sending teenagers to our high schools as part of exchange programs. Great kids and additions to our school. Our classmates are still in touch with them!

ganderson
ganderson
1 month ago

Thanks for bringing up Internment, as our national myth about it is one of my pet peeves. In a typical American High School US History class it is often the centerpiece of the World War II unit- that and how we dropped the big one on the unsuspecting DINDU Japs. I tell the kids in my classes that while reasonable people can disagree as to the necessity of internment, they are to avoid any comparisons to concentration camps. In addition I disabuse them of the following myths: 1. No Germans nor Italians were interned. False. 2. Huge numbers of US… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  ganderson
1 month ago

They weren’t interned in Hawaii becuase the territory was a warzone with a military governor. Martial law was declared on the morning of December 7th and remained in effect for the next two years.

ganderson
ganderson
Reply to  Tykebomb
1 month ago

I should have realized that, thanks!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ganderson
1 month ago

History footnote. During WW II the USA feared that Hawaii might fall to the Japs (based on how the war started, not an unreasonable fear! 🙁 ) US currency for Hawaii was so marked, so that if invaded, the currency would be invalidated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_overprint_note

Another footnote to economics is that the USA is one of only two nations that have never repudiated its currency. The other is the UK.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Ben;
The USA …[has not yet] repudiated its currency.

Fixed it for you. (FIFY)

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Don’t you consider the ending of gold convertibility to be a sort of repudiation?

Drake
Drake
1 month ago

“many white people lost family members saving his people from the clutches of communism” after many more white people died in a war that liberated his people from the clutches of Japanese imperialism.

Make that 2 holidays thanking whitey for their independence and current prosperity.

KGB
KGB
1 month ago

In Taiwan and Hong Kong, the virus is referred to as “Wuhan Flu” (武漢肺炎). Remind them that Chinese people themselves are using the term.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

Doesn’t work. I’ve tried it with blacks and the dreaded “N” word.

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
1 month ago

“White people literally pulled the world out of the dark ages.” And please remind us who put them into the dark ages in the first place. Pretty sure it was white people. Last time I checked, the Chinese didn’t sack Rome. Fact is white Europeans are their own worse enemy, just like most black Africans are their own and most Asians are their own worse enemy too.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

Please, Herr Kraut, try not to hate yourself TOO much. It gets tiresome. The occasional genuflection in front of a candle-lit photo of St. Churchill is all that is necessary.

Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

Fuck off. The rest of the world never had a Roman flowering of knowledge to begin with. China’s own culture wasn’t affected appreciably one way or the other by the Western Dark Ages, and Africans were stone age before and after. The Western enlightenment spread around the world and benefited the whole world. Nobody said we weren’t our own worst enemy, but we have also been the best thing to happen to the rest of the world. The lack of mobility back in those times prevented much else from being the case. Then again, Ghengis Khan was an Asian and… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Aren’t they the wurst?

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

Uberwurst. 🙂 Well, yes. We did bring Rome to it’s knees.

In 476 C.E. Romulus, the last of the Roman emperors in the west, was overthrown by the Germanic leader Odoacer, who became the first Barbarian to rule in Rome.

This would explain why we’ve never really gotten along with the Italians ever since.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

There wasn’t even a “we” back in that day, just a great number of Teutonic clans who took their turns barbarianing each other as well as others. The Visigoths chased the Vandals through France and Spain where they escaped to Africa. How bad do you have to be to chase Vandals anywhere?
I am amazed to see how thoroughly America inc. has pozzed the Teutons. With the assistance of the borderless alien tribe, I guess. I know I wasn’t smart enough to do that.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Who you calling “we”, paleface? 🙂

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

The Classical Age did not end with the fall of Rome. It continue for a century and a half with the Gothic Kingdoms in the west and Byzantine Empire in the east. It collapsed when the first round of Bubonic plague arrived from China with invading Muslims right behind it.
The Dark Ages began when Muslims took out the North African Christian kingdoms and brought economy of the Mediterranean to a halt with piracy.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

Wait, wait, wait Drake…you’re telling me the economy matters?

I thought it was just Boomer’s 401K’s!

Drake
Drake
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Once the economy crashed and bandits appeared, the locals ran to their elites for protection and lived happily ever after as serfs.
Our elites want history to repeat itself.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

Read the re-evaluation of that theory. Frankly, convincing.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

…And when the Muslims burned European libraries wherever they could.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

Intra-family squabbles are one thing. Inter-family fights are another.

If you can’t understand the difference, you’re an idiot.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

The dark age he refers to is the period between 1100 and 800 BC, when the Bronze Age civilizations collapsed.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

1177 BC Bronze Age Collapse – that date get you oriented search-wise if you are looking to get into it. And what better mood-elevator in times like these than to remind yourself that we aren’t the first civilization to collapse?

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

Byzantine empire continued for centuries after Rome was sacked.

Look at modern medicine — it’s mostly white, with some Arab flavoring. And even then, most of the great “Arabs” were kurds.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Lawdog
1 month ago

And now they’re turds.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 month ago

How do you say “non-sequitur” in Deutsche-Kuck? How about “tu quoque?”

Hell_Is_Like_Newark
Hell_Is_Like_Newark
1 month ago

A note on Japanese Internment: Not all the Japanese were interned, which was focused on the West coast due to the threat of Japanese attacks and possible invasion (Imperial Japan decided to not get any closer than invading some islands in Alaska). My Dad grew up in Fort Lupton, Colorado. At the time, the population was nearly 50% Japanese at the time (brought in pre Great Depression as cheap farm, railroad, and mining labor). No internment was done. A lot of friends of my Dad (2nd generation Japanese) volunteered for service and after some delay, were sent to the European… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Hell_Is_Like_Newark
1 month ago

Nisei father, huh? I bet he had some interesting stories. I wish more of those guys wrote memoirs of their experiences.

Hell_Is_Like_Newark
Hell_Is_Like_Newark
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

No.. Dad is White. He was headed for the Pacific theater (Airborne) for the invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall). Thankfully, Japan surrendered after getting nuked twice.

The initial invasion plans for Kyushu was going to use 7 nukes in the opening salvo followed by chemical weapons. Dad’s chances of survival would have been questionable at best.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Hell_Is_Like_Newark
1 month ago

“The initial invasion plans for Kyushu was going to use 7 nukes in the opening salvo followed by chemical weapons.”

Judas priest, somebody wanted to genocide those people like they wanted a full genocide of the Germans.

No, I don’t think that somebody was us, but then I’d have to explain that whole ‘spiritual war and genetics’ thingie.

Jacques_Lebeau
Member
1 month ago

“whitey is in no mood to hear their complaints.” Z-man got that right in spades. I have had more than enough of grievance peddling, period. Not for one second will I entertain a complaint from an Asian about their treatment here. As Z-man points out, planes leave almost hourly for Asia. Don’t like it here? Easy solution – take the next flight out. I wouldn’t confine this advice to Asians either. Don’t like it? Too “racist” for you? Go to where the grass is greener, the people more tolerant. Not an appealing option? Then Shut TF up. (Like I said,… Read more »

NJ Person
NJ Person
1 month ago

I have lived cheek and jowl for many decades with East Asians. I find most to be good neighbors, colleagues and friends. That being said, I am aware of some underlying tribal resentments. A person of Asian background recently told me about being accused of racism after admonishing a young Korean for doing something anti-social! I strongly suspect that certain Asians (especially the younger ones) are being agitated by our wonderful media, such as the New York Times, and academia. They are same people who turn our women against us. As such and light of this current lock down, I… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 month ago

My old man, two uncles and a great uncle got to spend “holidays” on the Korean peninsula from ’50-54. It changed all of them. Great uncle got yanked back to active duty at the outset, since apparently guys who managed to survive D+6 to VE in a Sherman were considered “talent”. Never recall any of them getting a thank you card. Though, to their credit, the Koreans made the most of the blood contribution. I’ve always found societies that manage to maintain their identity when surrounded by great powers interesting–think Korea and Vietnam interesting. Have to hand one thing to… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

In the U.S. Marine Corps there is a lot of respect for ROK Marines. Hard little bastards who are fully prepared to fight to the death.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

My understanding was that in Vietnam the NVA would deliberately avoid contact with Korean units for that reason. We had a guy owned a dry cleaners in town and used to march in the Memorial Day parade every year and was a member of the local VFW post, though he had served in the Korean Armed forces–and in Vietnam. Didn’t find out until after he died recently that he was “grandfathered” into the org because he was apparently one of those “badasses”.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

Ooh-rah! US Marines, Royal Marines, and ROK Marines. The featured exhibits at the Hall of Bad-Assery.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I’ve been arguing for years that Asians and Indians were a bridge too far for whites. I live in Northern Virginia suburbs of DC, which have very big Asian and Indian populations, so I’ve seen this up close. The look on liberal white faces when an Asian or Indian starts spouting off about racism is very different than when blacks or Jews do it. Cuck whites – especially white women – get no tingle from the guilt whip held by Asian or Indian hands. (It doesn’t hurt that these whites recognize Asians and Indians as a threat to their lives… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Blacks and Hispanics live mostly in different neighborhoods, go to different schools, and work in different jobs. Asians and Indians often live in the same neighborhoods, and compete directly at school and at work. Different kettle of fish, from Karen’s point of view.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

The private school our kids attended (3rd generation) in a large Midwestern state also had a contingent of Asian kids, and affirmative action minority kids who could afford to go there w/ limited scholarship aid in the younger grades. Twenty-five yrs ago, these seemed to be mostly dot-Indian families, where BOTH Moms and Dads were working as physicians in the big medical centers nearby. Not as many Chinese/Japanese. Probably different now. I know some of the younger generation old-stock families have been invaded/intermarried with this group who want the social status-climbing involved with this type of thing. Not sure if… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Did you mean “a threat to their livelihoods”? That would parse more coherently. Unless I’m grossly mistaken, I’ve not heard of an Asian or Indian crime wave targeting others. Conversely, nor have I heard of blacks and “Latinx” competing for white jobs (ex-quotas).

Bill_Mullins
Member
1 month ago

Ah, Z? The Chinese didn’t just try to poison our pets. They used the melamine trick (it made the product appear to have more protein than it actually had on the tests the U.S. importers used) in pretty much any food-type product they made – including BABY FORMULA!!! That’s right. They adulterated several brands of non-milk-based powdered baby formula. I remember because one of my grandsons was still taking a bottle and word about the recall of several national brands was all over the news. I made damned sure my daughter wasn’t using any of those brands! Turns out she… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

The Japanese are the same way with what they call “Gai-jins” (literally “foreign persons”). If you can get away with it, in Japan, it is considered somehow better to cheat a customer than it is to deal with them honorably. The tech startup I used to work with never had to worry about software licensing protection at all until we got into the Asian market. Our American and European customers simply would never dream of stealing or reverse engineering our product. But as soon as we started doing business in China, we got calls from our NIC supplier about our… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

What most people would find shocking is the utter casualness of the corruption. Years ago had to dispose of what I’d term a “reverse Biden” problem with one of the state owned enterprises. Graft is a fully developed industry with surprisingly little effort made to put “cover” on the gambit. It is simply expected.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Also expected–lying. It is not offensive because it is normal, a cultural thing. Everybody is expecting everyone else to lie and if you don’t get it they don’t figure it’s their fault you are not Asian.

BTP
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Worked for a company that was expanding in China – maybe 20 years ago. It was right in their ppt. presentations: Benefits to {the company}: tax breaks, etc. Benefits to the executives: cash refunds, etc.

Our U.S. company reacted like you’d expect.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

The whole reason I was drug into that particular problem was because the local guys had gone a bit “native” and the only way to get out of the problem was for the “bad guy” from the States to swoop and kill the deal so they saved “face” for future dealings. But the deal looked too good to be true in the pro-forma, and it was. Once you factored in the “consultant” that emerged at the last minute and the cut he was going to take for vague “services” it became much less attractive. And the money was then going… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Many cultures/peoples consider it your job to avoid getting ripped off. In their minds, only children or idiots let their guard down.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

That is true, but forgive me for being a class-over-culture guy: the Chinese were laid destitute by the late Qing Dynasty, then the long civil war, and then the CCP, and lived a hard life for many generations. That tends to turn people into thieves. No middle- or upper-middle class Chinese steals, and some of them may even do business in good faith. You see the same thing among our white brethren in Russia: that’s a country of thieves too, and it’s because their government is rotten, and most Russians are lower class.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Marko
1 month ago

I remember reading that prior to the revolution in Russia there was sizeable portion of ethnic Germans (that all left). However there was also a saying from the time along the lines of “as honest as a German”.

Perhaps there is a bit more genetic influence on this than one thinks of.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  tristan
1 month ago

I am a descendant of so-called White Russians who fled the Bolsheviks. Some didn’t make it. Anyway, I never heard them say a bad word about the Germans or be anything less than proud that they had German blood themselves and spoke the language perfectly. I wasn’t alive during WWII so I am not sure whose side these people were on then, although I’m pretty sure they were not cheering for the Japanese! That was hate, even years after the war, probably b/c the J.s whipped their butts in 1905!

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  Dr. Dre
1 month ago

Anyone who has fought the Japanese will hate them forever and do all they can to pass that message along to their progeny. They are cruel beyond Western comprehension.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Marko
1 month ago

So it’s not their fault, it’s the government that They themselves created that is at fault…In other words-it IS their fault.

BTP
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Grad school with Chicom princelings back in the day… very enlightening.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

They may but they hardly need to as long as the West is happy to give them our wealth creating industries.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

To this day, you will notice Chinese tourists buying up baby formula abroad and bringing it back for relatives….they know not to trust themselves. The difference is that they are self aware on that point. We are not.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

Yeah – everybody in our thing likes to throw shade on Christians. But there is something to the innovation that outsiders are not outlaws. The Amerindians, pagan Europeans, and the rest would typically hold the opposite view.

The Church suggested one might love his own people and still manage not to be at war with all the rest of humanity. +1 for Christcucks, I guess.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

I’ve heard that in SE Asia, if someone is not from your village or region, then they are “bho”, “ghosts”, and you can do anything you want to them, since they aren’t really considered human beings.

Cloudswrest
Cloudswrest
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
1 month ago

The melamine milk scandal actually involved dairy products. A number of domestic (Chinese) infants died. It virtually destroyed their nascent dairy industry. The Chicoms executed a number of principals involved. That aside, my thoughts were what sort of mentality adulterates products in the baby food chain. Hard to imagine Westerners doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal