Morality Politics

The simplest definition of politics, regardless of the political system, is that it is formalized collective action. An individual or group of individuals gets a group of people to act as a group on some issue. It may be to lobby the king for some policy, undermine the dictator in some way or vote for a particular issue. Further, the kernel of all political action is dissatisfaction. The people doing the organizing are unhappy with something so they find the like-minded and appeal to their unhappiness.

As a practical matter, politics is about persuasion. The reformer, for example, first persuades people that something is broke. Like a good salesman who creates need in the mind of the prospective customer, the reformer creates a sense of unhappiness with the status quo in his target audience. The reformer is, in effect, a chronic complainer, always talking about his unhappiness with the status quo. His goal is always to first persuade people that something is broken and needs fixing.

No all persuasion is the same. if you listen to this interview with Ryan Faulk, he frames politics as narrative driven and data driven. The guys in whatever the now defunct alt-right are calling themselves these days are narrative driven. They create stories to explain the important facts of some issue. The other side stacks up the facts and lets them do the talking. If the other side is wrong about the facts, it is assumed they must be wrong about the general arguments built on those facts.

The politics of multiculturalism, if you examine the claims, is narrative driven, always around a story of group conflict. Blacks, for example, are in their present condition because of the long oppression by whites. Feminism is the story of female liberation from the patriarchy. It’s why the Left falls for rape hoaxes and noose hoaxes so easily, despite the history of these hoaxes. The hoax fits the narrative that for them, explains everything about the world and their role in it.

On the other hand, the politics of conventional conservatism is about facts and ideas, specifically the rejection of the narrative idea. The Right in America, the conventional Right, that is, remains under the spell of Richard M. Weaver. As Joe Sobran put it, they have always been convinced that “their own beliefs would creep up on the ideas of the Left, slit their throats in the dark, and stage an intellectual and cultural coup d’état, after which truth would reign.” Being right is all that matters.

You see some of this in the anti-Semite community. The Holocaust revisionists are sure that if they just reveal the facts about what happened to Jews under the Nazis, the narrative of the Holocaust will collapse. Once that narrative collapses, that which it supports will collapse with it. Their great enemy, the men with little hats, will then be routed and driven from the halls of power. This is why they obsess over it. They believe the facts will conquer their enemy’s narrative.

Ironically, this fact versus narrative dichotomy is most popular and most well-known because of Jewish conservatives like Ben Shapiro. He is famous for saying “Facts don’t care about your feelings.” He invests a lot of time discouraging whites from embracing their own narratives to counter those on the Left. Instead, they are supposed to embrace facts, as facts are the magic that will destroy the narrative. Well, not all narratives, of course, but that’s another issue.

The thing is though, this fact versus narrative construct is a left-wing creation, at least it serves left-wing ends. Narrative is the predicate for morality. The reason the Bible is full of stories is moral claims naturally rise from stories. A good narrative not only encompasses the known facts, it orders them. These are the important facts of the story, while these are not essential, there for color and context. It is this ordering that reinforces and existing morality or creates a new one.

Raw facts are not the basis of morality. As David Hume famously explained, you cannot get an ought from an is. Indiscriminate killing of human beings is not wrong because it violates the laws of the natural world. It is wrong because we say it is wrong or we claim our gods say it is wrong. Those stories about how the gods punished those who kill without reason are the basis of a moral code that changes homicide into murder and prescribes punishments for those who commit murder.

Of course, this is why the fact side of the dichotomy favors the Left. When Shapiro demands you focus on facts, it is so you do not focus on the moral framework. Similarly, the Holocaust revisionist obsesses over granular details of the story, because it is easier than mounting a moral argument against the prevailing orthodoxy. While it is most certainly intentional in the former case, in the latter case it is simply an outgrowth of how right-wing politics were created in the middle of the last century.

This is also why white identity politics frightens the people in charge. The right side of the game sees it as a mortal threat to their existence as a loyal opposition. The left side sees it as an alternative to the prevailing orthodoxy. White identity politics offers an alternative set of narratives and as a result, an alternative morality. The Left hammers away at “facts” about race in an effort to steer identitarians away from moral considerations and back into the old dichotomy.

These narratives do not rise from nothing. There must be some basis in reality, but mostly they need people willing to fit reality into the general narrative. In the case of white identity politics, it means fitting events into the general themes of peaceful separation, natural group affinity and so forth. It also means drawing moral conclusions from events. The current riots, for example, are an example of the immorality of forcing dissimilar people to live together. Morality transcends fact and narrative.

An excellent example of this, oddly enough, comes from the Left. The gun grabbers have been repeating the same demands for generations now. No matter how many times the facts are presented, they remain steadfast. The reason is they truly believe gun grabber is a moral imperative. Now amount of facts and reason will persuade them to abandon their moral code. Not even an alternative narrative to explain events is tolerated, as it slams into their morality.

This is why the fact versus narrative dichotomy is false. Both are codependent in support of the prevailing moral orthodoxy. The narrative side is constricted by the prevailing moral code to support certain narratives. It is why, for example, they can so easily abandon one narrative and adopt its opposite. Free speech, for example. It is also why the fact side is limited to a list of acceptable facts. Raise the wrong facts and you are banned to the outer darkness.


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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 month ago

Narratives are how humans process complex problems. There is a reason you have “epics” and plays from the ancient Greece and not statistical abstracts compiling the economic and military data about the Athens vs. Sparta. Hell, in business one of the great challenges is taking mounds of data and distilling it into graphical and narrative “stories” so employees can understand how you got where you were and how to go where you need. Trying to sell a complex product?–it has to distill into a story.

Put back the “captcha”–we’re gonna get trolls.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Yep, I’m in a world of numbers (not hard numbers, but numbers). But they don’t mean squat compared to turning them into a story. Even in heavily numbers-driven businesses, convincing people almost always comes down getting them to believe in a story.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Mine is almost entirely driven by it. Yet, the only way you can get anything done is to tell a story. Most of the last year has been spent with the CFO and actuaries working on taking the mountain of data spit out each month and turning it into something the worker bees can quickly understand and act on.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Friend of mine is an engineer who moved up to management. He told me that the engineers working for him occasionally get mad when they find out that the sales guys usually make more, sometimes a lot more than the engineers. They assume that because they’re smarter (generally true) and learned a far more technically demanding skill, they should get paid more. They also stupidly believe that they could do the job of the salesmen. He tells them, “Look, I can find a good engineer in a month or two, but good salesmen are like gold. You have a job… Read more »

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Citizen;

Alternatively, offer to put them in sales: Fly or die. Back when there was sane (non-PC) management there was a standing offer at our place: “You want salesman pay, go be a salesman. If you can pass screening, we’ll give you a tryout.”

Since it was hi-tech, some engineers did very well indeed. Same became (higher paid) tech support, some had to beg to be put back on the bench and some were let go. All-in-all, a highly clarifying spectacle that usually kept envious grumbling under control.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Heh. I’ve worked as a developer, architect, professional services engineer and sales engineer. As a sales engineer of course I worked with a lot of salesmen.

A good salesman has a skill set I don’t have, and what’s more which I don’t want to acquire! I just have the wrong personality type and I don’t at all enjoy that type of work. Even the sales engineer role was in many respects way too “salesy” for me and I found it very stressful. They’re worth every penny of their salary and commission.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Here’s a little example of data vs narrative—or at least putting/summarizing data into terms the average Joe can understand (See last 2 minutes or so). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFOsQfDFi8&feature=youthtu.be The above video is a short presentation by Anne Marie Knott, University of Washington, in Missouri. She is an academic, statistician, economist speaking about COVID-19 modeling and opening up our (now defunct) economy. She has a list of credentials. She is not some unknown video blogger looking for “clicks”. Presentation is started with boring “facts” made worse with equations. ;-). I’m used to seminars with boring fact after fact. You can get away with… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I urge readers to watch this YT presentation. I don’t know what it says about me; but I found the boring facts very compelling and persuasive, though I’m not an academic. If someone were able to follow her factual analysis but refused to give it credence because it clashed with their narrative, I’d find that person to be an untrustworthy fool.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

“[Engineers] also stupidly believe that they could do the job of the salesmen.” Hah! Indeed.When I was on the potential purchaser (of advanced imaging equipment) side, back in those halcyon days when there were large medical conferences with booths staffed with salesmen and booth bunnies (and sales bunnies) I’d always ask to talk to an engineer to get the skinny. The question was never “So what’s wrong with this?” but rather “This looks cool! But, if you had another 6 months to work on this, what would be your priorities?” The difficulty was getting the engineer to STOP listing the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Your post is a good example of the once-valid ideal: get a relatively secure job in government or its private-sector equivalent, administration. Public education or law enforcement today is a great example: the guys on the front line (cop or teacher) must do all the dirty work. Those in the air-conditioned office can take credit when things go well, yet the poor slob on the scene is a convenient scapegoat when things go wrong. Problem: a once-good idea (get an office job) doesn’t work when everybody’s in the office, and no one is outdoors doing real work.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Something tells me the Iliad and the Odyssey are slightly more gripping and compelling than a tale, drafted by a bunch of suits, of how a shower gel allows you to be you.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Seems like focusing on data has eroded trust in narratives. “You can say whatever you want but numbers don’t lie” or something like that. But accurately reading data is often as difficult as telling a ‘true’ story— and often as unreliable. These days I don’t discount one in favor of the other.

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
1 month ago

I would say to Ben, “No, actually feelings don’t care about your facts.”

And as I say to the few friends left that I have on the left, “Different religion, same bullshit.”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  ExNativeSon
1 month ago

Ironically, Shapiro is weaving a story with his “my facts don’t care about your feeling” slogan – and he knows it. He’s appealing to a certain kind of white guy, and it’s an emotional appeal, not a factual appeal.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

and little Benny is weaving that narrative for the benefit of his tribe, and he knows it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Oh, yeah.

I think Jews attach very different attributes to their heroes than whites. Whereas white heros are men of action and leaders who fight big battles, Jewish heroes are more like spies, infiltrating and destroying from the inside.

Not trashing on Jews. That type of hero makes sense given their history.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Esther comes to mind. I always felt that many of the OT heroes are examples of ‘Don’t be like this guy/gal’. Jews took the opposite approach.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Ben is one of the worst we have. There is nothing appealing about him. He looks like a snake. His voice is shrill and he speaks like an angry Chihuahua. How he manages to even stay on the radio is beyond me.

Nothing but large sums of money keep him relevant. I think he knows it too.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

He’s the kind of guy that only avoided being stuffed in lockers in high school by being useful for your study group.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

My brother invests all his hopes in Shapiro. My only explanation is that my brother holds on to the hope that Shapiro can persuade non-whites and women to put aside identity politics in support of a more successful economy that will make us all wealthier.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Man, what a pipe dream…

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

He’s a runtier version of Hannity who does the same thing.

Lawrence
Lawrence
1 month ago

Speaking of gun grabbers, a couple posts back a commenter argued that the 2nd Amendment crowd has largely gone all in on jogger sympathy in the desperate belief that if the 2nd Amendment guys serve as bitch boys for joggers, somehow they’ll be allowed to keep their guns. This Amren post has a good overview of the jogger looting in Minneapolis: https://www.amren.com/blog/2020/05/minneapolis-riots-sights-and-sounds/ One thing in particular stood out from the usual jogger mayhem: “Some armed white men were demonstrating for “Justice for Floyd.” They took a break to protect a tobacco shop from looting.” It looks like the Z blog… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

There is a weird intersection of agreement here. We have plenty of cases of over militarized police using their toys and no-knocking and killing no violent offenders (black and white), kicking the doors down at the wrong address, tossing flash bangs into baby cribs…used to hang at swim meets with another father who worked narcotics in one of the worst urban neighborhoods in the US before retiring. He used to tell me the old way of grabbing a guy was just to surveil until he came out in the open and grab him. Absolute last resort was kicking in doors… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Those days are long gone. America is a police state and the no-knock is standard operating procedure. Cops shooting people used to be a rare event. Cops shooting dogs was almost unheard of until fairly recently. Blacks need to wake up to the police state. The days of arguing with and fighting with the cops are long over. The cop who sat on the guy’s neck was following policy. Therein lies the problem. Regardless of what happened before the film was rolling that we aren’t seeing yet, unless they charge him federally, he’s gonna walk and get his job back.… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

I’d be curious what the written policy is there. Small sample size, but used to run a lot of DWI MVAs and invariably some involved a drunk who wanted to fight the cops. Usually proned him in short order, knee to back and sometimes another across the hamstrings–but once cuffed were up and in the car. Kneeing someone across the neck when the head isturned sideways (versus on spine) is going to compress one or both carotids plus the airway in short order. As one of the people that would have had to deal with aftermath, would have objected if… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

It is in their written policy that sworn officers who have been through training may use knees on neck with “low to moderate” pressure.

The guy’s neck is turned and they are on the side and not the trachea or the spinal cord, which are no-hit places due to the risk of severe bodily injury and or death. They have specific policies around the knee on the neck.

This guy goes through the video and has read the policies of this particular police dept. The guy is a bit long winded, but he’s a great source, IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Dc6wtptYs&t=1s

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Seems to follow what I’ve seen in videos of arrests. Also, I might add, if you can’t breath, you can’t talk. And he was doing lots of talking. Not that I’m denying he was in physical distress, just that I can imagine a burned out cop thinking, “sure buddy”. Same cop probably used this “technique” 100x’s before. But it only takes one…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Generally, most police policies dictate that once a subject is either sufficiently subdued, compliant, or no longer presents a threat… the subject be placed in either a sitting upright position or rolled on their side to avoid what is called “positional asphyxiation.” This is particularly true if the subject has been exposed to or directly sprayed with an OC device as their breathing can be further hindered by the OC. Positional asphyxiation can also easily occur if the subject is detained in a stomach-down prone position, and inate medical conditions, or obesity can further accelerate asphyxia. Most police departments train… Read more »

I[insert your name]
I[insert your name]
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

I could understand applying the knee if required to restrain. Once the suspect was restrained, the LEO must remove the knee.

The video appears to show the cop practically camped out on the suspect’s head and neck. That’s tantamount to Jason Van Dyke dumping an entire semi-auto pistol magazine into Laquan McDonald’s lifeless body when no potential victim was in the vicinity.

If found guilty, the Minnesota LEO who camped out on the decedent’s neck should never leave prison. We need to make some national examples and this LEO will serve the purpose just fine.

Joe H.
Joe H.
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

I spent 20 years working for a quasi-law enforcement agency that didn’t do its own arrests and I was a defensive tactics instructor most of that time. Even though I have never arrested anyone, I have been trained on how to handcuff someone and various tactics to use before and after handcuffing. Some of the people who trained me had done arrests and handcuffing at other agencies. This is the first time I have ever heard of this technique and I am amazed it was ever approved. I could see an attorney suing the department for approving this tactic and… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

So the suits should name the framers and approvers of “The Policy” as accessories before the fact, and any in-house review board as accessories after the fact, And the individuals named sued personally.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Hogwash. Historically, blacks have been servants, slaves, or criminals. In countries and communities where they rule, law and justice has to be simple, swift, and brutal. If it is anything less, the only law will be that of the jungle. Just as living in a black neighborhood is different, policing them is going to be different too. There is something bothering me about this last killing even so. Four cops, right? All being fired and charged with murder? So… four muderers, with no prior misdemeanours or infractions? And they all simultaneously decided to kill a random jogger, at the same… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

In my society, the process server or police would (if possible) politely knock on the door, perhaps post an offical notice of eviction, bench warrant, whatever. Give a statutory amount of time to respond or vacate. In case of failure, send in force, up to and including a tank if necessary.

Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

I refuse to view it as a binary. I can hate joggers and cops.

Cops have never gotten me justice or protection in my entire life. I’ve been betrayed by joggers and cops at every turn.

Cops take for themselves citizens’ natural right to defend themselves and their property. They’re part of the infantilization and subjugation of society by authoritarian government.

They function more to protect the joggers from what citizens would do to them if they had free rein.

white rhino
white rhino
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Agreed, and this is basically what James LaFond has been arguing for years.

Something else that was interesting: By now everyone has seen footage of that police car in LA that was forced to drive through the rioters because it was attacked. Meanwhile James Fields was forced to do the same thing when HIS car was attacked by rioters, but he’s condemned to rot in prison.

Apex_Predator
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Thank you. This binary thing has got to stop especially among us the so called “in the know / based” people that see the shades of grey on the DR. Blind support for police is no different than blind lefty support for BLM / Antifa, whatever. None of them represent our interests. Blue Lives Matter is some boomer-tier conservatard shit and I see way to much of it here by people that simply don’t interact w/ LEO on a regular basis. Until you’ve had that boot on your neck you really shouldn’t be running your mouth. Yeah he was up… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Apex_Predator
1 month ago

I haven’t really heard that much about his background other than he was a bar bouncer, and his crime was, if I read correctly, trying to pass a counterfeit bill. Counterfeiting doesn’t really seem to me like a typically “Black” crime, and it’s certainly not violent. Also, very often, the person passing the bill has no idea it’s counterfeit — they’ve received it unknowingly from someone else. So, while I have no sympathy for TNB, and Black tendency to get aggressive and non-cooperative when confronted cause lots of problems, I am wholly willing to believe the cop was incredibly out-of-line,… Read more »

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Cops killed that black guy in NYC few years back during the Ozero Admin simply because he was selling black market cigarettes. Not a violent crime either

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Boarwild
1 month ago

If you’re talking about the morbidly obese guy in NYC, he wasn’t merely selling single cigarettes, he was a persistent and noncompliant nuisance with a long history of shitbaggery.

I’m not saying that he deserved death for being a useless asshole, but the world is not diminished by his loss as such. Also, merely being that freaking fat is a major risk factor for early death in and of itself.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Apex_Predator
1 month ago

Blue lives DO matter – but no more than any other. Yes, a cop has a right to be able to go home safely at the end of his/her shift, but no more so than any other working stiff. I believe in protecting the “thin blue line” but when a part of that line steps out of that line they should be punished all the more severely because their actions,by reducing trust in the police, make us all less safe. When it comes to use of deadly force or when force used results in death, what would be a simple… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

And if the cop is a jo99er, it’s even worse.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

At least he can’t be accused of racism. I believe that was a factor in the Freddie Gray (Balmer) death. Some of the officers were Melanic Hominids® and that didn’t save them from being prosecuted.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Here’s the crux,

Joggers do not want to be policed by us. We cannot NOT police joggers because they are free to roam outside their areas. Lets call a spade a spade… our police have been either willingly or coerced into ramping up their militancy in response to vibrant crime and an increasingly ‘diverse population. Whites in general do not wish or need to be policed with such vigor but also demand a level of protection from vibrancy that requires a one-size fits all policing policy. It’s an impasse.

morbid obesity
morbid obesity
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

A thousand times this. How much police militarization is thanks to diversity? There’s that old meme contrasting a photo of a European cop without a gun from the 60s with a modern European cop in full military gear guarding a Christmas Market from errant Trucks of Peace. Police departments aren’t blameless at all, but how much of their aggressive pursuit and holding practices have been ramped up to account for extremely violent black escape and resistance impulses, in an ever-worsening feedback loop? There are white drug addicts and even completely innocent whites who are victims of police brutality all the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  morbid obesity
1 month ago

Some fond memories of my travels in Europe during 1980s: probably in Spain, not long free of Franco rule, guards in neat dress uniforms outside a government bulding, with (probably) Uzis in hand [grin].

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

“requires a one-size fits all policing policy” EVERYTHING is going the down the road of “one size fits all” (Procrustean fit, that is). Because our insane racism/oppression/victimhood culture now makes every interaction with a bad actor a potential hate crime (and lawsuit) if correction is attempted. Two examples that are not at all life-and-death, but illustrative of the madness and dysfunction. Cafeteria had a microwave for people to heat up lunch brought from home. A Chinese woman regularly brings in smelly smoked fish and heats this up in the microwave, using a paper towel instead of a plate or other… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

They need “their areas.” We need ours. Never the twain shall meet, except perhaps at a guarded border 😈

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

You can thank Daryl Gates and his creation of SWAT teams in LA in the 60’s. Since then, there has been a militarizing of police forces all across America. The numbers of new police recruits from ex-military and our endless sandbox wars does not help either. Nor does the response to such from the public in regards to police respect—at an all time low and growing as the Boomers die off. My reading is that the police are running scared and are quicker on the trigger than ever. Never talked with a retired cop who thinks police work is a… Read more »

Shomrim
Shomrim
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

What I’d love to see is some hardcore investigation and reining-in of the numerous Shomrim groups around the country. Due to the urban proximity of their respective ethnic groups, there have been many brutal Shomrim assaults on blacks over the years, yet these incidents have almost always been discreetly swept under the rug.

Maybe the Shomrim would care to share their concealment secrets with the gentile police forces?

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Shomrim
1 month ago

Step Zero. Immigrate from places where it is either inherently low trust, or where the locals are sick of your shit, to a high-trust, open society. Step 1. Your co-ethnics use initially subtle and covert methods, then as power consolidates, overt methods, of creating a pervasive cultural narrative wherein victimhood is automatically equated with moral virtue. Step 2. Co-ethnics make questioning the narrative, or any parts of it, crimes punishable by a variety of means, both through the legal code and through public opinion. Step 3. Do as thou wilt, because even though many of your co-ethnics do not approve… Read more »

Larry the lunkhead
Larry the lunkhead
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

“The lamest response to the Minneapolis riots is conservatives whining “They’re hurting a good cause!”

No, this IS their cause.”

-Scott Greer

https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1265837775519133698

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Larry the lunkhead
1 month ago

Joggers got to jog….

I knew this would be the inevitable response. Soon, no “excuse” will be needed. Then things will get fun—just like when I was young in 67 and every city, and some smaller towns (Plainfield, NJ…I was there), went off.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I’ve had simialr thoughts, how little has changed in over 50 years. One of my earliest memories (age 6, recent move to DC area, leafy suburbs 12 miles west of DC), seeing a plume of black smoke to the east in a clear blue April sky. Asked mom what the smoke was. “That’s Washington burning.”

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

Joggers are the reason the left wants to take their guns in the first place. The left does not want to take guns away from people because of mass shooters, they want to take the guns away because of (insert diverse American city here). They don’t want blacks having guns, but they just can’t say it. In places like NYC, blacks are responsible for better than 90% of the shootings! Ricans and other non-whites are responsible for almost all of the rest. The same thing is true for most of the rest of the country.

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

I don’t think that’s complete. Yes, the left is secretly scared of urban blacks, and wants to disarm people because of that, but they also fear armed rural Whites and their potential for resistance to the leftist plan. It’s not either/or.

3g4m
3g4m
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Many on the left are terrified of guns, both in the abstract and the concrete. It’s not merely noggers using them or Whites buying them – they cringe at the mere thought of holding one in their hand.

Member
Reply to  3g4m
1 month ago

But why? Because that’s how they’ve been propagandized. It’s just their hind brain responding to conditioning. And the people in charge of the propaganda have a purpose.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4m
1 month ago

Well, they trick out like dough-boys dodging phosgene on the Somme when a bad flu bug kicks up, so what do you expect?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  3g4m
1 month ago

3g4me, I laughed at the types that were criticizing people protesting the covid bans for showing up toting rifles. “Bad optics” yadda yadda. What these types dont get is that we on the other side from the Left and the Multiculties don’t get to protest peacefully or unarmed. The cities are their hives and we’ve seen in recent years that our protests or even political rallies will be quashed violently by the Left and often with the support of a mayor and his police. Our folks are literally walking into the lion’s den when they walk into the cities to… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

Yeah, don’t see a lot of “bad optics” complaints about angry Blacks.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I think that eventually, Blacks will burn down too much of the wrong neighborhood, or the authorities (or Antifa clones) will open fire on right-wing demonstrators. At some point, our side of the divide will have its Harper’s Ferry moment.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I think the AWRs have such contempt for proudwhites that they don’t even view us as a threat. They are in for a nasty shock…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Not really. They want guns eliminated from all, but especially Whites who would be expected to know how to use them and organize such use. Joggers will always have access to the illegal market. It’s what they use now. In a place like NYC, all weapons are “illegal” for the most part, but that does not mean unavailable. Nor will it ever mean unavailable as this country is awash in guns.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Gotta disagree. I am around a LOT of goodwhites (and “fellow whites”, and even a bunch of east Asians of similar persuasion). These generally higher-IQ and credentialed people are simply afraid of firearms, viewing them as evil talismans and not as tools. They also tend to be “Violence never solved anything” types. The more hardcore of them actually want BLACKS to be armed, but not us. Because blacks are the real victims and the truly vulnerable. (But while blacks may be real victims, they are not The Real Victims, if you get what I mean. TRV are never going to… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

@Lawrence – You are exactly right. Some of the 2A gun sites are famously aligned with the usual suspects in the Conservative, Inc constellation. But even so, the comments on these incidents is nearly all in favor of the approved narrative. Same thing on some different Facebook 2A groups (I know). Some of this is driven by Boomer/Fudd composition, but these groups/sites are also typically filled with non-Boomer/non-Fudd hatred for the ATF/FBI and inconsistent distrust of the regular police. I think it’s an artifact of how the 2A people don’t have much overlap with the Dissident Right people, but it’s… Read more »

Member
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

A lot of it is explained by the fact that in modern society, racism is the greatest evil. Second Amendment supporters want to prove to the world at large that they are good and trustworthy people and that citizens are worthy of the right to keep and bear arms. How can they do that if they take the side of the greatest evil in history?

Like all conservatives, they run from the accusation of racism like people in pre-enlightenment times ran from the accusation of heresy.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

In my perverse way, I agree that racism is a great evil. I observe that ethnic homelands would greatly reduce the problem of racism, by minimizing the problem of having to be around other races ☺

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

Jogger’s don’t care about gun rights—at least not as Whites think about them. By and large the relatively sane ones don’t want them around (and are too dumb to understand the fallacy of that position) and the ones that will use them on their fellow joggers and anyone else in their way (most), don’t care because they will always obtain them illegally and do. Anyone serious about gun rights with half a brain knows most of the vibrancy will never be an ally. Only avenue left is to convince fellow Whites and perhaps Asians. That seems problematic given our large… Read more »

antoine
antoine
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

Well, we all knew this was coming:

https://twitter.com/Big_PeeePeee/status/1266015428263854083

This pretty much makes separation inevitable. If even the most rabid AWFL can’t call the cops when she’s being raped, robbed, or assaulted she’ll just move away from the perpetrators.

Apex_Predator
Member
Reply to  antoine
1 month ago

The writing has been on the wall for a while. I told you that everything would be reversed as more & more radical leftists got the levers of power. Just as the police were (sometimes) weaponized against minorities in earlier eras, they will now flip the script and do the same to us. Except the difference is the incidents in past eras are greatly exaggerated, i.e. the ‘narrative’ of today’s Z topic. We won’t be given a pass for this and you will be destroyed for it once some better laws are in place. I know this through lived experience.… Read more »

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  antoine
1 month ago

“This pretty much makes separation inevitable”

You’d think, but no. Look at Baltimore. You have young whites moving in and trying to gentrify parts of Bodymore for various reasons, including proving that they are not racist by choosing to live near feral blacks. (That’s not to mention the pathetic white addict couples whoring out the girl in exchange for drugs.) These people are overwhelmingly white rabbits, prey animals.

Someone above already invoked James LaFond (the knucklehead sage of Harm City). James has written much about how Baltimore cops have morphed into de facto allies of the feral diverse youth.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Mike_C
1 month ago

Wonderful 80s punk rock ballad:

“Downtown Baltimore/Is covered with pimps and whores”

https://genius.com/X-whats-wrong-with-me-lyrics

Member
Reply to  Lawrence
1 month ago

I did enjoy the humorous aspect of the 2nd video at the Target store. The C19 facemasks make excellent bandit gear too. Be safe, wash your hands, weak a mask, and grab all the loot you can!

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  pozymandias
1 month ago

And most importantly, don’t forget the six foot social distancing rule. This is crucial because as you are grabbing that TV as your form of woke protesting you don’t want to get to close to the guy liberating the big speakers and catch the current plague.

A plague by the way that is another example of white privilege because those devils don’t get is as much as POC.

JMDGT
Member
1 month ago

White identity is an open car. It tempts you in and drives you far away. The Hoax is the fuel that enables the disinformation. White identity politics is most definitely frightening to those with other than a dissident mindset. Once a dissident always a dissident. Dissidence requires action. Demands it. Good!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  JMDGT
1 month ago

One just has to look at the ‘reformed’ dissidents to see the vacancy of their stare. The dead look is either because of what is essentially a hostage situation or a man who knows truth will never leave his lips again.

There really is no turning back.

Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Speaking of hostage situations, anyone catch Ramzpaul’s recent video “Cancel cancel culture?”

It was only recently that he was very explicitly claiming he was an ethno-nationalist.

In this video he’s running from that like crazy and sucking up to his Jewish female friend.

https://youtu.be/W65RlVHQrPc

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

A lot of the problems we have would be resolved if black communities were served by black cops, had their own local communities, businesses, and social institutions. most whites would be fine with an implicit ‘blacks only’ policy there for local businesses. People who actually want stability and raise a family will find some measures to control their rabid youth, and we will turn a blind eye to how it’s done. Some ruthless expelling from the gene pool will pay dividends after a few generations. Hell, I thinking whites would have no problem underwriting the effort, as long as they… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

It is an interesting contrast in Minneapolis, where a half trained, 85 IQ affirmative Somali cop shot a white Australian woman–from inside the patrol car–when she was trying to report an assault. I don’t recall the riots then. Your idea implemented there would give them Mogadishu–good and hard–in a hurry.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

> Your idea implemented there would give them Mogadishu–good and hard–in a hurry.

For some areas 5 miles from my home, that would be an improvement.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

I was in Minneapolis for the Final Four two years ago. And from what I saw of that icy cesspit, I believe you.

mike np
mike np
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Curious how Trump will react to all this. The Obama-supported BLM violence from 2012 to 2016 played a role in getting Trump elected (just like the riots in the 60s and resulting urban crime in the 70s fueled the rise of the right in the 80s), but after Kushner’s “criminal justice reform” and “black outreach” who knows if Trump will take the same tough law and order stance he took in 2016.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  mike np
1 month ago

but I was told by reliable sources that Trump is the avatar of Whiteness!

Maus
Maus
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Yeah, the Orange avatar of Whiteness; the guy who hired Omarosa not once, but twice. The best that can be said of Trump is that he’s not Hillary. Being constantly reduced to self-congratulation for choosing the lesser of two evils is toxic to the soul. TINVOWOOT!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Maus
1 month ago

The Right asked too much of Trump. As you say, at best he was Not-Hillary. He was the f**k you candidate, a “none of the above,” the perceived lesser of many, then of two, evils, back in 2016. Sadly, given his disappointing first term, it is a toss-up whether he’ll get a second. It speaks poorly of the state of our land, that an incipient dementia case and (probably) a black woman VP stand a good chance to win the 2020 election.

Pickle Rick
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

This is exactly is missing. When was the last white riot? In case you’ve missed it, for 50 years, when feral negroes riot, they get what they want. Government and all the Good Whites and the politicians and the (((SPLC))) and the negro race hustling industrial complex swing into action. Look at what happens when nice white People legally and peacefully protest, in Richmond before the Gook Flu to protect muh guns, or the limp wristed shutdown protests at various state capitals. Lefty does whatever they want, and ignores the nice white people with their guns they’re never going to… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  Pickle Rick
1 month ago

@pickle –

Rioting works. They think it don’t be like it is, but is do.

nailheadtom
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

“measures to control their rabid youth” A huge percentage of social problems are caused by teen-age and later testosterone in every society ever, from the most primitive to the most supposedly sophisticated. A case could be made that war, in whatever form, is actually a reaction to a surplus of insolent, know-it-all, hyper-aggressive young men. Prisons are full of them. But they can’t all be incarcerated. Some need to be domesticated to the point where they can be trusted to follow orders directing their efforts at strangers. Others become pro athletes. Some are able to modify their behavior to the… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  nailheadtom
1 month ago

Food assistance should have a clause that requires recipients to buy soy milk. Or some other chemicals that lower testosterone. Would solve a lot of problems.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  nailheadtom
1 month ago

We spent 10s of thousands of years domesticating our population. Those who were too violent or had too high a time preference and were thus too disruptive were either knocked off or banished. We didn’t learn to live with them, we got rid of them. Flooding our societies with feral browns is the inversion of that ages old domestication and culling. Add to this the greater genetic distance of the current misfits… then any attempts at assimilation and learning to live with them becomes doubly problematic.

We either separate through our institutions or we separate the old fashion way.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  nailheadtom
1 month ago

I’ve always had the vet castrate my male dogs to calm them down. Hell, at this point in my life, I just buy female dogs—too damn old to assert dominance on a 100+ lb animal. Perhaps castrating some of our younger vibrants will prove as effective? Hell, prison only warehouses them until their “T” levels lower to normal anyway. Ask any prison official.

Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I’ve never had any more notable behavior problems between male and female dogs, castrated or uncastrated. Two of my favorite dogs growing up were uncastrated males and they were no trouble at all. I mostly castrate and spay to prevent having to deal with extra puppies.

Both the most aggressive dogs I’ve ever owned were castrated males.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

My experience is with field dogs, Rhodesian Ridgebacks to be exact. The problem was not viciousness, but ability to follow me and stay with me in the field. Male dogs are less “attached” in that manner. Or perhaps I have less ability with them. They wander and you lose them.

Females had a natural need to stay right by me, or at least broke off and returned when called. This saves the animal when they run into other animals that don’t take shit in the field. Javalina comes to mind.

Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I can believe there’s tendencies that way — I think in general my females have been less prone to wandering than my males, but I have one trail dog that is absolutely by-my-side bonded to me and he wasn’t castrated until he was about five years old (and he was like that before he was castrated). However, his one weakness was this little Jack Russell female that he was friends with. If those two got together, you never knew where’d they’d take off to. They’d come straggling back a few hours later. My herd dog until he passed away last… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  nailheadtom
1 month ago

The military isn’t a total solution. Google “Project 100,000”. Even today, about 40% of Melanic Hominid™ with HS diploma are too stupid for the military, even the Marines! Unlike the Services, prison doesn’t have any aptitude tests 🤫

JMDGT
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Haiti.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Having all black cops wouldn’t help. They will just complain that it’s the white man’s law that is being enforced by black cops. It is essentially an unsolvable problem. Separation is the ONLY thing that will actually solve the problem.

Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

I’m not really excited about abandoning large swaths of real estate to Blacks, unless we also have an explicit political separation. Did we really gain anything from ceding Detroit to the Blacks? Because it always spreads unless you have strong borders keeping it out.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

It might work if you allow Jim Crow laws that legalize segregation.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I think we give them two states or send them back to Africa. Total seperation is the real ticket.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Yes, this is the value of separate homelands, to allow different standards of behavior. The Talented Tenth would likely want their own enclave, freed from their savage cousins. Why couldn’t different towns/villages mix and match, as they saw fit? Goodwhites could have “diverse” communities as they wished; they just shouldn’t be allowed to enforce their social standards or let their failed experiments run amuck, upon those of us who’d prefer a monochromatic community.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Humans spent tens of thousands of years entertaining each other and passing down lessons by telling stories over the campfire. Facts are nice, but narrative is the key. And every good story is a morality tale where the listener can imagine themselves as the hero.

The Left has brilliantly created a morality tale where whites become the hero by recognizing the evil of Badwhites and battle to save non-whites. This is literally the story line of every Nice White Lady movie or series, but it’s also the general narrative of modern America.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Totally agree. But it means that to win, we will need a narrative to top that. I’m not sure I’m the man for the job: anybody want to crowdsource the New (i.e., Our) Narrative for me?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Hilltop
1 month ago

There are 7 story archetypes: Overcoming the Monster Rags to Riches The Quest Voyage and Return Comedy Tragedy Rebirth The story of whites is likely Rebirth with a touch of Overcoming the Monster. We are the fallen hero who lost everything due to hubris – nothing fails like success – and vanity. Our decline accelerated and cemented by the treachery of one who claimed to be our friend but who instead stole all that we had, including our past. Reduced to a groveling helot with no pride or hope, our hero rediscovers his past and awakens to the lies he has… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

He quietly finds other whites who also have found their way back. Together, they undermine their masters, learn the old skills and prepare to fight back.

That’s the key right there Brother that will open the way to winning…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lineman
1 month ago

That’s part of the Rebirth. It’s not just the rebirth of the individual; it’s the rebirth of a community, a people. Whites didn’t just lose their past. They lost each other. Every hero has to overcome something internal – some fear or personal failing – to win. For example, a person afraid of heights has to walk across a ledge. For whites, we have to learn how to build communities again, that there’s more to life than the individual or money. That’s the real monster, not the ((one)) who betrayed us. We betrayed ourselves long before that. (Not that we… Read more »

Jack Charlton
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Excellent. I am currently writing a screenplay (Overcoming the Monster/Rebirth) that highlights many of the points you brought up here. After reading your comments, however, I realized the plot lacks some depth in the community building aspect. Will add this to my notes and try to strengthen the story in this respect. Thank you.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

That’s pretty damn good.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

already feeling inspired, damn

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

⁸where whites become the hero by recognizing the evil of Badwhites and battle to save non-whites.”

That is positively brilliant. Spot on.

Update: Spoke too soon, hadn’t read the comments. You people are killing it today.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

We need a modern version of Paine’s Common Sense. Right now we bad whites don’t even have all the facts or narrative easily available in once little booklet. It’s all spread out across multiple sources.

If you look at previous success mass movements they have been defined by some small book like Mao’s Red Book, Aylinskis Rules for Radicals, Hitler’s Mein Kampf and Paine’s Common Sense.

write such a booklet and the rest gets a lot easier.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
1 month ago

Such a booklet would also be a partitionist manifesto.

Yak-15
Yak-15
1 month ago

The biggest white pill of all is that despite controlling the newspapers, television, movies, social media, the schools, the universities, the government bureaucracy and the moral narrative, people still have varying degrees of conservative thought.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Yak-15
1 month ago

True. The other side controls literally every piece of commanding heights in modern society, and, yet, they’re constantly battling to maintain the narrative.

Story-telling is huge and will overcome a lot of facts, but that’s not to say that facts don’t matter at all. All story-tellers require a certain amount of trust from their listeners.

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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

And there is a liability in the left in that their narrative has no off switch. It can’t help but keep growing. Tranny hour in grade school is not a good look.

FashGordon
FashGordon

For now… neither was integration, and that took them way longer, and look at where we are now. If you control the banks, media, academia etc. You can make anything normal given enough time to brainwash people and build up their tolerance to it. The only thing that stops this is taking the levers of power back, probably going to need to do this by force. They own 99% of the soapboxes, so democracy won’t do it.

FashGordon
FashGordon
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

If they lost control of the media, I believe our society would very rapidly start to naturally heal itself. We live in a very unnatural culture that is only able to persist through constant narrative enforcement.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  FashGordon
1 month ago

Agree. Think of the millions of head slaps from people saying – Wow, there really are only 2 genders, 2 + 2 does equal 4, IQ exists. Weird stuff like that.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  FashGordon
1 month ago

“..very unnatural culture..” Almost every social, political, and economic system (university, corporation, welfare, voting, etc) in this country has been distorted by race-engineering imposed on us by anti-Christian anti-European leftists. Unfortunately, the first of the control nodes of our civilization they seized was the financial system. They have used that domineering height to redirect the efforts of our our own natural aristocrats to the end of making money instead of making money as a means to the end of exercising civilization rule. Our own most capable who should be ruling us are simply hamsters on the wheel spinning fast and… Read more »

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I think a lot of right-wingers are complacent (despite their/our desperate IRL situation) because the truth is on our side. But the fact is, the truth is not enough.

The truth is definitely not enough. And in some ways it’s a liability, because the other side can appeal to people with the grossest wishful thinking.

Propaganda is 2000% necessary. We have to be propagandists for truth, strange to say.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Hilltop
1 month ago

100% agree. White guys just assumed that sooner or later, the facts would overcome the silliness so no need to fight back. We were wrong.

Stories and punching back are what earn your freedom.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Agreed. And that will only happen when enough white people get fed up with blacks and their BS.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

There is a distinction between trust and gullibility.

joey junger
joey junger
1 month ago

The weirdest part of the Left larping as the reason/facts crowd, is that even when they try that pose, they end up showing themselves to be a bunch of religious fanatic nutcases. This is most obvious with the Bill Nye types (you pointed out a lot of them are “Fake Nerds” who think “Star Wars” is science fiction). “Unlike those retrograde conservatives, I believe in science.” But what the hell is that “in” preposition doing there? You can’t “believe in” a fact. Their worldview is suffused with religiosity even where, and especially where, they pat themselves on the back for… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  joey junger
1 month ago

Spot on observation. The Environmentalistas ask whether or not you “believe in” global warming. That’s just another brand of Fundamentalism.

Sandmich
Sandmich
1 month ago

“The Holocaust revisionist obsesses over granular details of the story, because it is easier than mounting a moral argument against the prevailing orthodoxy.”

I harbor a secret hope that popping the Hoax balloon would ruin the party, but yes, the task is not in getting people to stop believing in it, but to get them to believe that it doesn’t matter (since it doesn’t).

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

What gets me is all the Hoax survivors the Jews keep parading around. The fact is the real ones are dead from old age.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
1 month ago

This dichotomy is driven in part by our having no narrative to tell because we have no fellowship. Lefties have real communities. All non whites have actual cheek-by-jowl communities. They see the story of generations unfolding day to day, year to year. White lefties see it as their duty to use these non white communities as a means of controlling their immoral brethren. This mission gives them the moral narrative and thus a moral identity. Whites no longer have communities so we no longer have a moral narrative. My grandfathers could look behind them and know and understand the world… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 month ago

Great points. We need communities and a narrative where whites can be the hero by supporting other whites and the white community. Maybe I’m crazy, but I sense that a certain number of whites are creating that narrative in their heads already. Anyone of us around here who has talked about trying to find a way to get together in the real world and maybe even quietly – oh, so quietly – start building a community has that narrative in their head. Z hates negative identity, but every protagonist needs an antagonist, something or someone to battle and overcome. And… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Seeing the riots in Minneapolis last night surely has many whites looking up demographic statistics on prospective communities to move to.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

…or out of.

White Flight
White Flight
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

This is a great propaganda tool for our side: “See, you have no place left to white flight off to anymore.” I bet many “good school district” SWPLs and even many Minnesotans were unaware of how badly Minneapolis has Africanized in the last few decades. They were probably expecting round 2 riots in Ferguson or Baltimore, or maybe riots in Memphis, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, etc. But Minneapolis? That must have raised quite a few SWPL eyebrows. The sad reality is that this can now happen anywhere, from Lewiston to Indianapolis to Des Moines. There are no places left to white… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  White Flight
1 month ago

Nowhere to run, and the outer suburbs (and inner suburbs) are now full of Indians, Arabs, Chinamen, and various alien tribes.

We can either run to the middle of the woods (not good) or stay where we are and rebuild.

The demographics of your area are less important when *you* have an actual community. If we have an actual white community it wouldn’t matter how many non-whites were hanging around.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  UFO
1 month ago

Not all immigrants are disasters: except when they decide to do a Jihad, Arabs make perfectly good convenience store owners. I’ve heard very few problems from Indian (continent) people or Asians. You may be sneered at by IT professionals, but you’re not likely to be the victim of a violent crime by a Chinese in the USA.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

But what’s the benefit of an Arab-owned convenience store vs a white-owned one? Societal benefit, not the benefit to that particular Arab. As to dot Indians, and hell, Chinese, there is in general greater friction because of deeply ingrained cultural and therefore behavioral differences. I am dealing with this on a daily basis because of outsourcing of medical informatics and clinical trial management to the sub-Continent. Also, apart from work issues, in general the attitudes toward filth, noise, and crowding are different. Personally, I purely LOATHE Chinatowns for those reasons. To say that some immigrants are “non disasters” is hardly… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

True but we don’t need these people. Its not necessary to hate people to want land and property for your own kin.

Lurker
Lurker
1 month ago

The direction of history is not determined by the rhetoric of great men . The movement of history is is based upon the fight for existence ; on resources , food and shelter , not the elegance of oratory . It’s not debate and verbal disputation that raised one army against another and set them in contention . It’s the contest for resources and territory that sets man against man and not the way that dispute is dressed up with words We are being attacked on the basis of race and therefore have to respond in kind . The looters want… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

A difficult story to overcome is that America has always been and is meant to be multiracial. It’s a big part of what America is all about, is what’s widely believed thanks to the endless propaganda and indoctrination. Almost everyone I talk to believes that and has no knowledge whatsoever of Hart-Celler and the demographics of the past.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

A good rebuttal to the America was “meant to be multiracial” claim is the Immigration Act of 1790, which limited immigration to free white men of good character. That act makes clear that America was not meant to be multiracial.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

And American was 90% white in 1965.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

1950 census shows 90% white and 10% Africans descendants of slaves who were brought as cheap labor replacements of free white labor. Whatever constitution or basic laws come about to govern over the wreckage of FUSA, ZERO immigration needs to be a fundamental civilizational mandate. If you give the cockroach people an inch, they will take a mile.

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
29 days ago

The same 90% White America elected LBJ by a 442-89 margin.

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  LineInTheSand
29 days ago

Yeah the “of good character” part is what the race obsessed miss. If the “good character” part is enforced. more than 50% of whites would have to be stripped of their citizenship and deported. You would be fine with that? Also, what happens if you fail the “good character” test as laid out by the INA act of 1790?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Yes, but one race lived in the manor, another worked in the fields, and the third was ruthlessly pushed West 😒

Cuckmerican Patriot
1 month ago

Wake up SHEEPLE and LOOK at what’s happening in Minnesota!!!! CUCKMERICA HAS FALLEN!!!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Cuckmerican Patriot
1 month ago

Yeah, been thinking…if it can happen in that city, in that State…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Actually, Minneapolis is the perfect place for this sort of conflagration. The whites there are some of the most spineless and cowardly soyboys on the planet and such abject weakness only emboldens the Hutus. Everything about Minneapolis encourages the Hutus to live out their innate savagery.

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
29 days ago

The Scandicucks revert to their natural cuck state wherever they are.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
1 month ago

The gun issue may be the one that goes against the general truth of your position. Because it’s hard to dispute the fact of a dead body, the statistics are among the most accurate the government produces. Such scholars as John Lott, of “More Guns, Less Crime,” produced copious studies the gun grabbers never could refute. Gun enthusiasts also voted out gun-control politicians, scaring most Dems into shirking the issue. The moderates on the Supreme Court even were convinced. The result is our gun rights are more extensive and secure than 30 years ago.

3g4m
3g4m
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

“The result is our gun rights are more extensive and secure than 30 years ago.” But use them in your own defense, as intended, and prepare to be bankrupted by lawyers and/or jailed for life. The facts have in no way ‘convinced’ the purported moderate members of the kritarchy – it’s simply been the amount of money and the numbers of voters that have pushed back. As the % of Whites in North America dwindles rapidly (and most really have no clue re the daily number of White births vs. deaths) those voters will disappear – and the money is… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

More extensive, but secure? Debatable. Here is AZ, we have produced perhaps the most free State wrt gun rights. Next election the State will turn blue. New Senator to be is viciously anti-gun. OK he’s going to be a Senator in Congress, but the local legislature will turn blue. Now what? We will see. Fact is things can turn in a breathtakingly short time.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

I loved your cross over with Archer and Armstrong. But whatever happened in 1999? I’d say its half and half. There is a serious effort to disarm all Whites for a “final solution” to the Whiteness problem. On the other side, lots and lots of new first time gun owners out there. As they could see the first thing Governors would do is empty the prisons due to Wu Flu. And that the Cops would run away! like they always do when the ultra vibrant culturally enrich Whites. Ask Reginald Denny about that one. Biden’s team has a plan for… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
1 month ago

The endpoint of my political evolution was the realization that facts don’t matter- only identity matters, whether personal or tribal. “Who do you think you are?” is the only relevant question, and the answer is impervious to empirical correction.

I could do the Buckley-con idiot savant parlor trick with the best of them, but I don’t think I ever changed anyone’s mind, let alone their identity.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

Sitting and listening to Christian ministers who are orators (Billy Graham) whom can pull out narratives from a Bible story is a very powerful force. So is listening to a political leader whom is great orator. Mr Mustache was a great orator. William Jennings Bryan comes to mind as another one from the past. I agree with Bryan more than Mr Mustache but both were great orators. Trump to some degree is a great orator. He can hold an audience. Trump connects with the crowd with his stories and that fact is something that frightens the left very much. No… Read more »

Severian
1 month ago

Hitler and Abductive Logic, right? You mentioned that one the other day, and thanks. Definitely worth a skim, but if you don’t want to (and trust my synopsis), “abductive logic” is the telling of just-so stories to explain facts (and they are facts) that “cry out” for an explanation. The abductive logician’s story can — and, of course, in Hitler’s case, did — lead straight into demagoguery, but it doesn’t have to. The real explanation for Germany’s defeat in WW1 also relies on abductive logic; in fact all “a-ha!” explanatory leaps do. But Hitler’s explanation fit all the known facts… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Piqued. Could you give the punchlines on the real reason and Hitler’s reason?

I have no idea what either were, I only go back to Wiemar, due to bias blinders.

All I’ve ever heard was “bar fight”.

Why was it urgently necessary for several nations to bog down in the mud? What the heck was the first WW all about, anyways?

Severian
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

The real reason Germany lost WW1 was because no nation, not even Germany, can win a two-front war against Russia, Great Britain, France, and the United States. Hitler’s explanation was the famous “stab in the back” myth.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

I skimmed Mein Kampf and didn’t especially absorb anything. One take-away I recall is Hitler saying that (I may have quote wrong) that only terror (aggression) is the proper response to terror. This, I think was his motivation for the SA (Brown Shirts) to attack the leftist forces. He had a point…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

I know it means something else, but applied to liberal views of social issues “abduction” means, I suppose, that your brain has been kidnapped 😏

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
1 month ago

Z Man;

You’re right about fact quibbling vs. narrative re the mustache guy. The few times I’ve had to interact with deniers I’ve usually been able to shut them up by saying, “Look, doesn’t matter if it was 6 mil or 60. Among their many, many evil crimes was that they presided over the death of > 5 mil of their own people and they left their country a smoking ruin, at the complete mercy of their enemies.”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 month ago

The traditional Germans in Weimar had their backs against the wall and their only weapon was the truth. In the end, the truth was insufficient to deliver victory. They still had the truth.

Epaminondas
Member
1 month ago

In my youth I can remember eagerly watching the Tarzan movies. The narrative was always the same: a small group of whites surrounded by savages in a savage land trying to get themselves out of a scrape, or fighting amongst themselves with the constant negro menace hovering in the background. That fanciful narrative was based on facts, just as we see today in South Africa. Whites today can ignore facts at their own peril if they proceed to pad their narrative with lies.

The Babe
The Babe
1 month ago

It’s interesting that so many people naturally linked this subject to Bible stories.

That’s because narrativizing overlaps with religionizing. And I think you could claim that the left has religionized their thing. Just as the Jews have religionized the Holocaust, making it their New Testament.

Some right-wingers think it’s owning the left to point out that their thing is like a religion. But it’s really a self-own. Remember, religions produce fanatics. Religions win.

If we want to win, mere narrativizing, mere moralizing might not be enough–we will have to take that next step and religionize as well.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  The Babe
1 month ago

So right. Our traditional religious narrative has been wrested away from us. As Bruce Charlton discusses, our Christian narrative is no longer practiced in the church buildings, so we must simply practice it ourselves, away from “organized religion”. We have our own narratives, from the Greeks and the Romans, through Europe and our own traditional American ideals. We need to resurrect them in private and in our own small communities, to both preserve them, and to eventually reintroduce them back into the mainstream at some future date. We need to recognize and accept that our own narratives run at cross… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
1 month ago

We once had our own narratives, taught at school, in the service clubs and in the churches, and in the media and in literature. There were reasons the Jews, the Catholics, and people recently arrived from other lands were kept at the margins of the culture, and that was, in part, to protect the narratives. Once the dam broke early in the twentieth century, it was all over. What was the seminal event in all of this? Perhaps the emancipation of women, who were then able to mainstream their own narratives. Pandora’s Box indeed. The Greeks associated the first woman… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

No. I will not stab our women in the back. They were used, ruthlessly, it’s not their narrative that is being told.

Now how could I make such a claim? Because our narrative, we white men, our narrative is also not being told.

Want an end to white babies?

Guess who to target.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

White women are just dumb and naive. As a shrewd white man I can trick them 90% of the time (if I wanted to).

To a chutzpah person it must be fish in a barrel.

I really do see it as a failure of white men to step up to the plate and be the men that society expects from us. Just go to the grocery store and see how many white Boomer men are getting bitched at by their ugly wives. No pushback.

BTP
Member
1 month ago

Facts can never provide you with identity, that’s done by myth. These days, we call myths a narrative, but the purpose is the same. That purpose is to answer the question: who are we? The more sophisticated the set of myths, the deeper the identity. That’s why we don’t teach them any longer in school. For the Left, the origin myths tend to begin on that bridge in Selma where their forefathers fought against ignorant southerners to free the blacks. I’d speculate that the wide acceptance of this myth is why there is so much enthusiasm for reenacting it at… Read more »

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
1 month ago

This is crucial. Narratives and stories are vital because we do not have the time or the knowledge to amass all the data into facts and logic.

We do not have the brainpower to analyze all the data coming in. So we have to concentrate on the data we believe is relevant.

And when the data surprises us, it is time to modify our understanding of what data is relevant.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

Ben Shapiro’s “facts” remind me of the climate change people’s facts. Fact- the temperature in (insert city) increased by two degrees over 15 years. Undisclosed fact – a new thermometer was installed 15 years ago next to an air conditioning unit that bakes in the sun on hot asphalt. Facts can be twisted and turned into any narrative you want to create. Facts are like dabs of paint on a palette. You can make anything from them that you want to make, including bizarre, surreal State of Israel narratives or black unemployment statistics. As much as the narrative here tries… Read more »

Member
1 month ago

The narrative is that any time a White confronts a Black, it’s because of racism. Apologies will do you no good:

https://www.startribune.com/mpls-venture-capitalist-loses-office-lease-after-viral-video-accuses-him-of-racial-profiling/570809082/

“By the end of the night, we were on talking terms,” he said. “I said, ‘I’m sorry you thought I was being racist, but I was not. If you were a bunch of women, I would have done the same thing.’ ”

But that didn’t stop him from losing his lease. Cuck might as well have got down on his knees and sucked their cocks, apologizing to the guys who got him kicked out of the building.

Alzaebo
1 month ago

Gosh DAMMIT you are interesting writer, Zman.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

I saw an interesting narrative this morning watching the video of the Target being looted in Minneapolis. All of the porch monkeys running around, stealing, doing what they do, and in the middle of it that big gay rainbow in the kids section. So you have two narratives coming together. Corporate consumerism pushing a gay agenda on kids with anarchy breaking out all around it. I think that sums up our country right now.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

When the Hutus plunder corporate America (or France in the case of Target), it is civil war among our enemies and should be wholeheartedly encouraged.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
1 month ago

Based upon your concluding paragraph, Z, it seems the only way out of the current straitjacket is separation by hook or by crook. If that is what you are saying, I fully agree.

RealBill
RealBill
1 month ago

We human beings seem to be hardwired to envision our lives and circumstances in the form of a story— a narrative— in which we play the central role. All ancient civilizations have recorded their pasts in the form of stories. Numerous psychological experiments reveal the fact that the best way to convey facts to human audiences, is by means of a story. Groups receiving facts as part of a story, recall a much greater percentage of those facts, compared to groups presented with the facts alone. Facts only ‘come alive’— take on their widest possible meaning and context— when incorporated… Read more »

Member
Reply to  RealBill
1 month ago

When I was a child I was enthralled by old fairy tales and fables. A lot of who I am is informed by what I read in Grimm and Aesop, and the more modern morality tales of Tolkien and Lewis.

It’s a crime that they aren’t required for all children today.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I am much the same way though I have a healthy dose of Buddhism and Stoicism thrown in.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
1 month ago

Excellent post. IMO after dealing with gun grabbers since the mid 80’s I’ve come to conclusion the movement just really hates ordinary white people having a means of self-defense. It has nothing to do about reducing crime since the same people who support gun control oppose strict prison sentences for gun related crimes and crime in general. In short they are duplicitous f**ks for the most part like most liberals, though some of their foot soldiers are just emotionally unbalanced.and cannot be reasoned with. Like with most things the Left engages in, it is to hurt white society and it’s… Read more »

hennesy
hennesy
Reply to  Rwc1963
1 month ago

You got it! The gun grabbers are driven by the goal to disarm white people. They never cared about black gun crime. Look at “red flag” laws: there are so many gun-wielding criminals walking around our cities right now that “red flag” laws could easily be used to go house to house in every ghetto to confiscate illegal guns. Every ghetto in this country qualifies for mass raids for illegal weapons being used at the hands of mentally unstable people with documented behavioral problems (criminal records). But this will never happen. You’ll see all of rural Michigan disarmed while every… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Rwc1963
1 month ago

RWC said, “I’ve come to conclusion the movement just really hates ordinary white people having a means of self-defense.” Close. Its that they hate white people, full stop. This is implimented via their hatred of YT having anything for themselves. The Clinton Crime Family operator didn’t put a 308 round in Sarah Weaver’s head because they were worried about whites’ self defense – they wage war on white gun culture because of the “white culture” part, not the “gun” part.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
1 month ago

You get it. This is largely a moral battle and no one on the right, with influence, has been fighting on moral grounds for the most part. There is a serious thirst for some kind of alternative to the prevailing paradigm but most who try to offer it are too busy shilling products or infighting over ideology or….just too much ideology generally. And the J stuff is getting tired. I know its said people can only focus on a small number of simple ideas, but evert time i hear podcasts starting to go into the topic at length i just… Read more »

Member
1 month ago

Attention Whites: Resistance to White genocide is punishable by law:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/john-rieple/

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

“Duty to Retreat”?

How long before they apply that to homes…

It’s becoming harder and harder not to fed post and mean it.

This may be the proverbial straw…Forcing neighbors to organize and act locally before they decide to explode globally.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 month ago

Duty to retreat does apply in some places to your own home. In the UK, if course, it’s something like an absolute duty, no matter the circumstances.

Michigan parliament fan
Michigan parliament fan
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Uk doesn’t have one law because there are multiple jurisdictions.

There is no duty to retreat.You may be charged for “excessive violence”.

South Africa
South Africa
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Back in the 60s cops and people defending homes/businesses were free to shoot rioters. It was well understood by all parties, including the rioters themselves, that rioting automatically allowed any and all anti-rioters to use deadly force wherever and however necessary. The new normal is very different: any and all black antisocial behavior and crime, including murder, is to be legalized immediately, and any and all reaction to it by others is to be criminalized immediately. Not only are you not allowed to defend you, yours, and your property, but you can’t even complain about it. Even complaint is criminalized.… Read more »

cardiff
cardiff
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

The Right White could learn a lot from the Left about the value of the collective, action and reaction and thinking alike. Individualism just makes you atomized meat for States and Corporations. Have a network of extended families and you are a lot stronger and resistant to injustice either from resources or pure scariness. I think this coming Greater Depression is going to have some upsides in that it really won’t be possible to chase money since their won’t be much of an economy and this fact makes larger groups sharing resources more viable. It won’t make up for the… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
1 month ago

Maybe I dont understand the whole is ought thing, but there seems to be at least a strong correlation.

What’s happening with these looters is a good example. (In a sane country, we’d deal with these brigands in a more classical fashion.) What “is” reifies what ought to be; that is, my natural and innate revulsion toward certain destructive behavior represents a genetically encoded moral imperative

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Whoever controls which facts are permitted controls the narrative, and this is why the Left has been winning; the Cultural Marxists control both prongs largely through the culture and their propaganda outlets. The ridicule hurled toward “alternative facts” was an attempt to keep any realities outside the left-wing narrative verboten. Events certainly have made that harder, but the tipping point where tactics are irrelevant may have been reached or is within the Left’s reach. We have to assume that hasn’t happened or adopt a different posture. It is safe to assume the Left thinks total domination is within reach or… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
1 month ago

The Severed Pigs head in Minneapolis does it for me.. or rather reminds me of who I’m for and who I’m against. I really think their wish for Outlaw status should be granted: in the old sense – really through 19th century. The outlaw had no recourse to law – and was fair game to all. This wish should be granted, and starting immediately the MPD should not respond outside of their own neighborhoods and families, or communities that support them. Tell the Karen’s if they want help to call a thug. As a hopeful white pill – I deployed… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
1 month ago

lurker – this is v-x-_c …gotta be careful on this device..

Member
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
1 month ago

My Dad served with the 34th (Red Bulls) in WW 2!

usNthem
usNthem
1 month ago

One of the biggest problems with the left is that their narratives mostly have no basis in reality. Thus, their narrative based morality is all that matters – they don’t even care about being factually correct – and you’re evil if their morals are questioned. Thus boys can be girls & girls can be boys. Blacks are just better White people with darker skin tone. A woman has the right to do to her body as she wishes, regardless. As long as two people love each other, that’s all that matters. Guns are scary and mean and kill people so… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
1 month ago

Facts may not care about feelings but the opposite is true and feelings are far stronger.

This is why a Winning Right would be “great place to raise kids, like a Halmark Channel world instead of Panem” along with a whole lot of “Go away Autism” directed at the facts peddlers.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

So perfect and very true. Humanity, for the better, is emotive. And Shapiro’s very convenient half-facts taken out of context don’t hold a candle to it.

Unknownsailor
Unknownsailor
1 month ago

“The gun grabbers have been repeating the same demands for generations now. No matter how many times the facts are presented, they remain steadfast. The reason is they truly believe gun grabber is a moral imperative. Now amount of facts and reason will persuade them to abandon their moral code. Not even an alternative narrative to explain events is tolerated, as it slams into their morality.” I don’t argue facts with hoplophobes any more. It doesn’t work. Instead, what I say is a variation of this: “You can pass all the laws you want. I will not comply. You are… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
1 month ago

Rednexx with rifles save tobacco store….yes they utter PC about justice for Floyd…doesn’t matter.

They armed, stood and guarded the store.

Lessons here.

Well training or just smart rednex, they succeeded.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/armed-citizens-looting-minneapolis-george-floyd-riots/

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1 month ago

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tz1
Member
1 month ago

Madonna (yes, her) notes because a blue knight kneed someone to death we must have gun control. The link is somewhere on Gab.

Biden is excellent at narrative politics because his (lack of) mind can’t get in the way.

Waiting for our winter of incontenent.

Member
Reply to  tz1
1 month ago

What about knee control? I am sure Madonna has a ton of experience on her knees.

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 month ago

I hate the new commenting system. My Iphone just has the back-forth indicator when I load “more” … and its an Iphone 7, fairly new.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
1 month ago

The fucking Jews tell the stories…TV, Hollywood, newspapers. Walk down any street at night, the houses all lit by glowing Jewtubes. The Braindead, rapt audience all had their mandatory 12 years of commie-learning shoved up their ass, so they’re good and ready to believe, to buy, to obey.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  Dennis Roe
1 month ago

Hard to disagree much with Dennis, although my anger level may not match his. It’s all about the media … I believe that the (((media))) takes advantage of these events by coordinating with Antifa & BLM to organize the riots. It causes Black/White tension so that we don’t focus on (((them))) and its great for ratings. (((They))) can create nearly any calamity that they want to create via YouTube, Google, and cable news.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
1 month ago

Z Man said: “This is why the fact versus narrative dichotomy is false. Both are codependent in support of the prevailing moral orthodoxy. The narrative side is constricted by the prevailing moral code to support certain narratives.” The one and only goal of politics is to win. Anyone who doesn’t understand that is a confused loser. Everyone on the left side of the street are openly and proudly in rebellion against every principle America ever stood for. The only way to stop a moving object is to exert an equal or greater force moving in the opposite direction. Which doesn’t… Read more »

Oliver
Oliver
1 month ago

The use of English common law is no longer accepted. The police have been at a standoff with non Europeans since 1965.

VDARE has another article about a white man killed in Atlanta. Outside of that local area, no one knows or cares.

I see little interest in our civic nationalist boomers to ever change the narrative of equality of ethnicity and the melting pot concept.

We are still caught in the bad cops/bad rioters rational. It is diversity and immigration and it is war.

You always always always sink the ships.

twits and gits
twits and gits
1 month ago

Man, Antifa sure gets pissed when people fight back. They can dish it out, but sure can’t take it.

https://twitter.com/bellers03/status/1266174838374313992

And of course the cops will always be there to babysit them.

That was Denver. DC is popping off too; looks like the diversity riots are going #allcity:

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1265858417102635009

goofy bill
goofy bill
Reply to  twits and gits
1 month ago
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goofy bill
goofy bill
Reply to  twits and gits
1 month ago

Throw Louisville into the mix too:

https://twitter.com/GrantB911/status/1266223275568480257

Reporter says “this is a peaceful protest” and then gunfire erupts!

Ifrank
Ifrank
1 month ago

As Homer gave the Greeks a moral code in his telling of a narrative, a myth, Amazons, Googles, Facebooks, NYT, cable TV, et al set today’s moral code with their stories, their myths, their “fake news”. We are in a period of transition where we must chose a narrative, a set of ideals, a mythology to live by. Like all other revolutions, our transition won’t be quiet.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

“The current riots, for example, are an example of the immorality of forcing dissimilar people to live together.” Yes, in this case, the moraility (I’d call it idealism) that said “Let’s give the downtrodden equal rights” but implicitly expected that, once granted, the downtrodden would improve their average behavior. On balance, it appears that just the opposite happened. If you want a prohibited topic, I would ask (reference civil rights) “Why was there ever a perceived need to discriminate against that group?” Absolutely forbidden is any hint that prior experience would have shown that the proposed changes would be likely… Read more »

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
1 month ago

power
Politics is Power. Any other lens deceives

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
1 month ago
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