The Long Civil War

John Derbyshire was the first person I heard use the phrase “cold civil war” to describe the culture war in American society and politics. His argument, if I recall correctly, is that the Civil War may have ended, but a cold version of it has festered ever since, largely over the issue of race, but other issues are part of it. The result has been the Blue side of the conflict, the good whites, imposing their will on the Gray side, the bad whites, using the “transcendent morality” of racism as the main weapon.

It is a good way of looking at things. The recent hysteria about the bogeyman of racism, for example, is almost all coming from suburban white women, who live in all white neighborhoods. They don’t really care about blacks in a practical sense. Their real concern is the specter of bad whites holding opinions the good whites find unacceptable. It’s what caused them to go bonkers over Bush and then force the ridiculous Barak Obama on us. The bad whites needed to be taught a lesson and put in their place, which is at the bottom of the social order.

The whole red state/blue state business that got going with the 2000 election was another manifestation of this. The bad whites voted for Bush and tended to live in awful places like the South and Midwest. The people who voted against Bush lived in cool paces like New York and LA. This was made more obvious in 2008 when the states not going for Obama were conspicuously Southern. More than a few lefties noted that the Old Confederacy did not vote for Obama and everyone knew what that meant.

Now that this Progressive Awakening is sputtering to a comical end, the Left is increasingly convinced that the nation is headed for a civil war. This post on The Daily Lunatic from last year is humorous, but representative. Here’s another from the Huffington Post. This piece in The National Interest is a recent example. TNI is not explicitly Left, but it is certainly not explicitly Right either. It’s always been a neocon hangout, which puts it on the Left, mostly as a home for heretics who broke with the Left on foreign policy.

The reason the Official Right was willing to join arms with the Left in opposition to Trump last year was their belief that Trump was leading some sort of rebellion of the bad whites against the benevolent rule of the good whites. Now that Trump has been installed as ruler, the same people are imagining a counter rebellion by the good whites, like the cat ladies, who waddled into DC on Saturday. The only thing they were missing was having the geriatric Madonna lead the crowd in singing the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

It is easy to dismiss it, as the Left is prone to these sorts of histrionics whenever they don’t get their way. Even so, what we may be seeing is not a new civil war or even a continuation of the Civil War. Maybe what we are seeing is the final, long delayed end of the Civil War. The political realignment we are witnessing is not the start of anything, but the end of a long cycle of American history that started in the 19th century with the Hartford Convention. After several delays, we are reaching the final denouement.

If you think of America in terms of The American Nations model or maybe the Nine Nations model, the last 200 years can be looked at as a long hegemony of Yankeedom over the rest of the country. Following the Civil War, the South was excluded from having a say in how the nation was governed. The Midwest and Mid-Atlantic were subordinate to the Yankee ruling class, while the West was simply not a factor. This remained the case into the 20th century, as America went from provincial backwater to an industrial power.

The 20th century should have been when this post Civil War arrangement began to fall apart as the South rebuilt and the West joined the Union. Instead, the Great Depression, two world wars and the Cold War locked everything more or less in place. Nixon’s “southern strategy” to win the presidency was an early sign that the old order was unstable. The necessities of the Cold War kept things in place, but the dominance of the old Yankee elite was showing it’s age as far back as the 70’s.

Look at something else. The Conservative Movement got going strong in the 1960’s and came into its own in the 70’s. The election of Reagan made conservatism the alternative to liberalism, but it did not change the regional alliances in the country. Up until very recent, conservatism was strongest in the South, but it had no Southern leaders. The GOP, the alleged home of the Right, remains a party of Southern voters, but Yankee leaders.The Trumpening has mostly been about the long overdue eviction of the Bushies from party leadership.

Perhaps what we are witnessing is the start of a process where America returns to being a collection of regions more or less cooperating only on the big issues like national defense and trade. On those items, perhaps the national ethos returns to something like the John Quincy Adams model, rather than the Theodore Roosevelt model. A lot of what Trump says about foreign policy and trade may be a reaction to the neocon debacles of the last three decades, but they are also an echo of the pre-Civil War consensus.

One final thing. The Left is suddenly talking about the need to restore powers to the state as they face a federal government controlled by their sworn enemies. There are many on the Right who would like to see an Article V Convention. One side fears what the Federal government might do and the other side has had enough of what the Federal government has done. The one thing all sides of the political class may accept in the end is a restoration of the natural regionalism that has always existed in America.

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james wilson
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The Trump rebound will last as long as it takes for people to get a bounce back in their step and reacquire their worst political instincts, as it did with Reagan. Right now we hope to make it past the bodies of John, Lindsey, and Paul to the first turn on that track. The Trump era will be the last period of time that we shall see any successful resistance to the tyranny of universal suffrage. Burke–“Tell me what the prevailing sentiments that occupy the minds of your young peoples, and I will tell you what is to be the… Read more »
Buckaroo Banzai
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You forget that the Reagan administration was almost immediately hijacked by Bush. Reagan getting shot by a Bush family friend was the “convincer”, after that Reagan let Bush pretty much run the show. So no one should be surprised that the “Reagan Revolution” went nowhere.

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I’m all for natural regionalism. It’s the first step toward semi-autonomous super-states governing themselves with an eye toward unity if there is an external threat. At that point the Northeast would be begging for help as it is filled for the most part with Ivy League sissies and would be quickly annihilated by an invading force. (Anyone who has a gun and would like to keep it will have moved south as soon as they feasibily could). Canada and Mexico would also come begging. The Reverand Dr. Smith and Vandeveer sound like they actually wish for civil war. They would… Read more »
PV van der Byl
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ZMan, you hit it out of the park with this post.

Solomon Honeypickle IV
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Solomon Honeypickle IV

it’s the “crown” on a long series of posts regarding the unseen battles for control of America. the long long tail of history.

Doug
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Here Here!
Great piece for sure.
(Some mighty good snark too)

Dutch
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The Left will never accept regionalism. They are convinced that they are correct about everything, and everyone else is wrong, even though many of their stated positions fundamentally contradict each other. To accept regionalism is to accept that they are not right about all things, at all times, in all places. Liberalism is a religion, and blasphemers must always pay the price!

meema
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I like to refer to this as rabid self-righteousness so, yes, it is a religion.

Steel T Post
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Of course liberal globalism a religion; DisruptJ20 was coordinated from St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church, where they follow the teachings and example of the rabidly globalist Jewish activists Jesus (Matthew 28:19) and St. Paul. (Galatians 3:28.)

Joy
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Who do people say you are? …who are you, STD, oops, STP?

Steel T Post
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I don’t have STDs; are you projecting your own skankiness? And, being a straight heterosexual male, I neither chop off my balls like Jesus implored his followers,(Matthew 19.11-12) nor do I want to live in an androgynous utopia where normative male-female relationships are prohibited.(Matt. 22.30)

But I bet you’re just the type to appreciate a feminist Rabbi who comes White-knighting for skanky whores. (John 8:4-11)

Wanna take another sexual innuendo shot at me? 🙂

Joy
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Who are you between the ears? Ooze?

alzaebo
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Your obnoxious sneering is unwelcome. I’m angered by your attacks on such commentors as Let’s Play, a good and gracious man- and on Joy, just now. You waste your fine talents on vitriol. I appreciate the unconventional detail, very much, but your bile is making we non-religious look bad. I realize you’re angry because the coded dialect of monotheism doesn’t answer your questions. That’s because they don’t know either- we use a wrench to try to turn a screw. Please use that mind to examine the deeper social functions of religion. Start here: “Religion began as politics…” And do try… Read more »
alzaebo
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Oh, and learn to translate their language, smart ass, I mean smart guy.
What are they trying to say?

Steel T Post
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Learn to translate? I did! Jesus worships Uranus. And hears Uranus talk. Have you ever heard Uranus saying anything?

• “for the kingdom of Ouranos/Uranus is at hand” (Matthew 3:2)
• “a voice from Ouranos/Uranus saying” (Matthew 3:17)

You’d do well to realize that some Jews took a big punch bowl of old Greek paganism and shat a Jew-worship turd in it.

Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth
http://pocm.info/

Steel T Post
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Alzaebo, I like your sprit — it’s the spirit of an anti-Christ. • Christ taught to be meek. You’re not being meek. • Christ taught to be angry. You’re angered. • Christ taught resist not. You’re resisting. • etc. etc. (I could make a huge list.) Like most Europeans, you don’t actually follow the teachings of Christ; you effectively piss on them just as I do. So what do you think worshiping a Jew helps a White man? Do tell me. And I’m NOT against religion or monotheism, I’m all for it — what’s written into our Declaration of Independence.… Read more »
Steel T Post
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Z man, I was on topic. Jews promote globalism, from Jesus and St. Paul to George Soros and Barbara Spectre. That Jewish poison keep bubbling up from Christianity in places like St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church, the coordination center for the D.C. protests. Christianity is a globalist poison to our society.

Doug
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Be nice if along with the thumbs up button, there was auto Troll eject, you qualify for ejection and your shit stirring commentary is wiped clean when your thumbs down hits 10.
I’m not talking about disagreements or spirited discourse. We all got something to say. But a Troll is a Troll, they are Trolls because it is their purpose to troll. It’s hateful and disgusting.

Solomon Honeypickle IV
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Solomon Honeypickle IV

they don’t have to accept it. they can choose to grind themselves up in unending battle with the state. good, it keeps both sides occupied and away from normies.

Al from da Nort
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Dutch;

Agreed. The current Left cannot actually accept anything reasonable from a practical socio-political point of view because, for them; Their Indignanty is Their Identity (TM). That is, because of their indoctrination into the ‘US sucks more than anything anywhere else’ dogma, they are forced to define themselves by what they are indignant about in normal US life.

Exhibit A is this last weekend’s well organized but incoherent ‘women Indignant about whatever’ gathering.

alzaebo
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Agents of S.W.I.N.E.- Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything!

Doug
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They can not accept anything outside their ideology, it is existential to do so, acceptance is admission of guilt. Dutch said it perfectly, they can never be wrong, the whole edifice of cultural marxism would collapse. It’s one reason why they hate Trump and The Great Fuck You of us dirt people. To acknowledge any aspect of the revolution, the counter cold civil war against them is literally admitting defeat. Sure there’s members of the hive who write pieces where they skulk around the edges of admitting they may have done wrong, but it is rationalizations, to create modified memes… Read more »
Doug
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10-4 Dutch. Excellent comment. The left is kind of like the ultimate opinionated horde. Their opinions mean more to them than the people around them. You and Z are dead nuts right. They never accepted regionalism, in it’s purest form, with the Compact of Confederation of the States, a loose confederacy of state governments where states rights were to be the rule could not be tolerated, and ever since the Compact Theory has been accorded fascist status by Yankeedom. In his speeches against ratification Patrick Henry noted that the delegates in Philadelphia had overstepped their bounds in that they had… Read more »
LetsPlay
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Just as President Trump will focus resources on rejuvenating our failing national infrastructure, so to should the educational structure be torn down to the studs for a major renovation. We have spent so much time and been bombarded over the past eight years by programming of how wonderful the world’s countries are compared to the US. Oh, the Middle East! Oh, China! (Don’t get me started on Global warming!) Well, it is also time to renew, re-introduce people to the various regions of the US so that perceptions (many that are now out dated) can be updated and fellow Americans… Read more »
John the River
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We have to fix the education system.

Yes that is where we have to start but expect the war.

james wilson
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It might be ended, but it can’t be fixed. Government owns the casino, the games, and the dealers. Don’t pick a fight you can’t win, start a fight you can’t lose. It’s been done in Chile, and Belgium of all places.

LetsPlay
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I mostly agree with the saying “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” But education is broken and needs to be fixed. The Trump Train has the momentum to make the changes and fight the unions, primarily through direct competition, to force change. That jungle needs to be made to face the reality of the law of the jungle … “adapt or die.” Government, with taxpayer money has kept this environment protected from the law of the jungle for way too long.

meema
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Unfortunately, we have a generation of teachers who were incubated in liberal universities. I can recommend a book that delineates how our current education system was developed.
Credentialed to Destroy – How and Why Education Became a Weapon by Robin Eubanks

The root is deep. You will never get rid of the weed by simply cutting off what you can see.

Calsdad
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John Taylor Gatto has been calling attention to the underlying and corruption in the school system for quite some time.

https://www.johntaylorgatto.com/johns-bio/

Doug
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If a foreign government had imposed this system of education on the United States, we would rightfully consider it an act of war.

Glenn T. Seaborg, National Commission on Education, 1983

Karl Horst
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@ LetsPlay – I just finished reading a very interesting book “The Shame of the Cities” written by American author Lincoln Steffens and published in 1904. It’s also available as a download PDF and well worth a read. It could have been written today. No that shame is not unique to America, we Europeans share a similar shame in the way we have allowed these things to happen. In many ways, we have only ourselves to blame since we, the voting public, put our respective politicians into office.

LetsPlay
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Karl, thank you the reference. I will be sure to look it up. As you can hear with current protests, the Left seems to think the problem is always “not enough money,” however, America spends more money per student but has no way of correcting the performance deficit. It is voters at the local level but it reaches all the way to the Federal level with socialist programs like Common Core that seek to make all students “equal.” Just as teachers do not want to be bothered with “boys”, they want them to act like “girls” who are less rambunctious… Read more »
Doug
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Resistance is never futile.

meema
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10 thumbs up.

Steel T Post
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How wonderful other countries are compared to the US? I hear that quite a bit from traitorous Americans who worship a foreign King,[John 1:49] and who hope to abscond to a foreign capital city that they consider “Holy.”[Revelation 21:2]

Joy
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That smell again

alzaebo
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Ha ha ha!
XOXOXX (hugs, kisses)

LetsPlay
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Sounds like someone has a hard-on for me! You are a cheap charlatan who throws scripture around as if it gives you some kind of special standing. Not with me. The smell that Joy smells, is the smell of death – Lynyrd Skynrd. It surrounds you.

Steel T Post
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Can’t begin justify your traitorous longing for a foreign King to dominate you in a middle-eastern capital? Talking of a foul smell, how much are you looking forward to being a swarthy middle-eastern guru’s Bride? Remember, you’re not really married until a relationship has been consummated. Better get some Jewlube.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/bible-verses-about-the-bride-of-christ/

alzaebo
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Great gods, you puke. Why do you not revel in the fact that Whites took a Semitic strategy book for slave raiders (the OT), and a propaganda campaign created by a spy for the secret police (Paul, whose mission was find the Apostles for execution- he was purged in turn by the next administration: the NT)- And turned these things into something great and glorious, a deep well of memory and self-programming that brought us this world of miracles? The historical person of the Christ- a legitimate heir to the throne, a reformist representative of the people, rejected as a… Read more »
Steel T Post
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The *historical* person of the Magic Jew? Tell me when this fictional character was born. Go on, do try, I dare ya.

Fair warning….

“It is beyond reasonable dispute that Luke dates the birth of Jesus to 6 A.D. It is equally indisputable that Matthew dates the birth of Jesus to 6 B.C. (or some year before 4 B.C.). This becomes an irreconcilable contradiction after an examination of all the relevant facts….”

The Date of the Nativity in Luke (6th ed., 2011)
Richard Carrier
infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html

Doug
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Troll. I hate Trolls. A Troll’s purpose is to disrupt the comment thread. They show up any place there is worthy and honorable discourse, in particular when the discussion involves peoples self determination and individualism, and a Republic that cherishes such freedoms.
This is no joke. There are thousands of paid Trolls, agent provocateurs and self appointed cultural marxist thought police and SJW’s who lurk and slink around comments threads waiting to pounce.

meema
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I have noticed trolls are usually passive/aggressives. They stir up with contentiousness and wait, smacking their lips, fingers itching, for someone to take the bait. Then they rise up over the din they have created and plead innocence. After all it’s not their fault if others are so easily riled.

The best counter is to ignore the bait. They cannot reach their goal if they cannot get a response.

Doug
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Most definitely. Like the “protesters” against Trump, it is the toxic element they represent, like the cold civil war, there is something disingenuous behind it all. What they are attempting is disruption of freedom of speech, peoples right of self determination, government as will of the governed, which they see as a problem to be solved by way of discrediting things that don’t fit their world view, when these are things representative of a failing system and of genuine concern. It is toxic behavior, a symptom of a discredited ideological system of totalitarianism. Trolls are totalitarians among us. They represent… Read more »
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Another great post.

But the comments with their dreams of draconian solutions and rapid change – oi veh, and I’m not even Jewish.

Read the Z-Man again: This stuff takes 200 years +++ to resolve. The Germans are getting close to resolving their 2500 year old conflicts with the Gaels, Slavs and Romans. Of course, being Germans, they are already starting new conflicts, but that’s how we humans roll.

Any solution that does not consist of us grinding them down, and them grinding us down, is nonsense.

LetsPlay
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Fred_Z: “… dreams of draconian solutions and rapid change.” And yet, if you listen to Trump, he said when we put our collective efforts into something, there is nothing we can’t do. American’s don’t want to wait that long, especially when it wasn’t really that long ago when we had one of the best education systems in the world. Grinding is what the generic politicians do and that is why Trump got elected. People want change and fixing our education system, loosening the grip of union control, progressive control, government control is not “draconian.” If we don’t fix this sinking… Read more »
Dorf
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I believe you are mostly right but you need to factor in the methodology of the participants. The right thinks in large terms like the bricks in the wall. The left thinks in terms of the mortar, cut it away and the bricks fall. The left doesn’t really contribute anything they just destroy….

alzaebo
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Amen! Where is it written in stone that it must “take two hundred years”? Twill be dust, long forgotten.

It’s 2017. This ain’t 1776 or 1860.
They dealt with their sh*t, let us deal with ours.

Karl Hungus
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that simply isn’t a given. there are many examples of societies making huge changes of direction, in a short time. do not discount Trump’s immense personal charisma; he will draw the herd to his cause like moths to the moon (they won’t even know why they are doing it).

alzaebo
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The Left is as delighted by the scandal of Trump as a Baptist church. They can’t wait to hear what he’s going to say next.

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I don’t like to comment on blogs with admiration usually, but in this case I believe I am entirely justified. I think this is a post displaying rare insight into what could be seen as a complex dilemma. America is clearly still affected by the civil war. Gun psyche for example. And like a ship chasing the lubber line, Trump is a product of an America that has gone too far left, and needed to come back to 0 degrees badly. If that means going 10 STBD, so be it I say. America aside, the west in general are battling… Read more »
Worldly Wiseman
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For the anglo world it’s the sixties. That generation is in it’s prime now and until it’s gone very little real progress can be made . Believing that trumper can do attitude could change thing is an illusion like treating cancer with leukemia. The patient may not survive the procedure. From my outsider perspective the most important thing is can the trump movement produce the next generation of political leaders that can make a convincing anti progressive argument If it’s just a one man show it will only serve as a rallying cry for the new progressive generation . As… Read more »
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The end of your second paragraph more or less encapsulates my waking nightmare since November 9.

I retain some hope. But fear this will only encourage and empower them.

Karl Hungus
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the disease was picked up in WWII from exposure to Europeans; and brought back here, where it was incubated in schools and institutions. many conservatives are carriers

Worldly Wiseman
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A while back there were commentators wondering how come nobody heard of any German universities . Well the Frankfurt school of social theory just had a two term president and a nominee who won the popular vote in November.

Karl Horst must be laughing hard right now in some Bier Haus .

Calsdad
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It was picked up well before that. It came from Europe to be sure – but it was here well before WW2.

Solomon Honeypickle IV
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Solomon Honeypickle IV

the cultural rot started blooming in the mid 1950’s by my calculations. earlier exposure did not take hold; it was limited to the fringes. it was the suburbs, ironically, that proved most hispitable to the siren call of progressiveism.

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I stopped reading TNI, for the most part, about 10 years ago. At that time, I thought of it as a sort of Reaganaut foreign policy journal that had evolved toward neocon as many foreign policy Reaganauts had done [I continue to think of Reagan’s foreign policy, explicitly ideological, crusading, and ‘freedom’-oriented though it was, as more about winning the Cold War and not quite as much about a new world order or spreading democracy everywhere; he seemed not quite realist, not quite neocon], and then in the 2000s had seemingly recoiled from the neocon message as it seemed to… Read more »
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FYI I’m the same guy also known here as random observer. No idea why my Disqus handle is the one showing up today.

The distinction is the long ago screw up of the Daily Telegraph website that required me to open a new account. Circa 2008. The internet casts a long shadow.

alzaebo
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We’d like to speak to you, Citizen.

Deny nothing! Your friend Mozart has confessed to everything!

alzaebo
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Excellent refutation of the neocon loonies. Reagan’s pragmatic goal- prevent a nuclear war- became open-ended utopianism. Gods I hate that shrieking preacher, Mark Levin, trying to sacralize Reagan and the Founders. Myth isn’t a practical policy guide based on past example. Thumbs up for mentioning a patriotic American, President Nixon. He tried every form of compromise, yet was still savaged by the neocon-Left for shutting down their Asian money machine and line item vetoing their corruption. John Dean’s wife ran a whorehouse out of DNC headquarters across the street from the Watergate hotel, and the Dem Congress pushed thru the… Read more »
Al from da Nort
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Z Man; I suppose we may be seeing a ‘cleavage plain convergence’ (to borrow a concept from mineralogy) forming in our politics now. IOW, just as any mineral contains hidden systematic weaknesses at the molecular level which causes it to split apart into characteristic shapes under pressure or a blow, (and this property is so characteristic that it serves to identify unknown minerals) so does a political entity contain hidden (papered over_?) systematic weaknesses that may rupture under strain. It is a good insight that Regional Culture is a highly logical cleavage plane, and it is a potentially likely one,… Read more »
alzaebo
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Nice, unknown detail. At one time, ten votes in Congress were all that kept German from replacing English as our national language.

Guest
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It’s really this simple: negotiate a CalExit and the remaining Republic survives another 50-100 years. Without California in the Union, demographic changes over the next 8-12 years will sweep the Democrats into power at the Federal level on a permanent basis. The Democrats will naturalize illegal immigrants and throw open the gates to new immigrants, ensuring their electoral dominance. Large swaths of American geography will remain red and Republicans could conceivably keep the House and periodically control the Senate, but the Executive Branch will be controlled by Democrats permanently. There will be gridlock in the legislative function and the Executive… Read more »
Guest
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Second paragraph should read “With California in the Union . . . ” My bad.

Dutch
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“The Collapse of the Left’s Great Con”, Charles Hugh-Smith, linked at Zero Hedge, should be required reading. Very relevant to the current conversation. Hugh-Smith argues that capital has dominated labor in the Marx model, and the wealthy Left has sold out to the power of capital to personally enrich people, leaving labor in the dust. Labor has figured out the con, and has turned to Trump for some sort of reversal of the process. The wealthy Left (e.g. Soros) has encouraged the whole Social Justice Warrior thing to mask their abandonment of labor and perpetuate the con, under the cover… Read more »
4D1000
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But of course, they’re the useful idiots continuing to fan the flames of dissent, pure cannon fodder. Unfortunately, the puppet masters are still behind the scenes biding their time. It’s the same reason they embrace islam, co-conspirator for the same end state each thinking they will be driving the ship feeding off each other. Frankly, we got lucky. Luckier than even most will ever know or understand, but it’s over. Not even close. The left is now a cornered animal. Possible to put it in the cage and take out a field somewhere? Maybe. Possible to let the regionalism approach… Read more »
Severian
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“The one thing all sides of the political class may accept in the end is a restoration of the natural regionalism that has always existed in America.” I’d agree with this, IFF the inmates weren’t running the asylum (in both parties, but especially on the Left). The one thing that reconciled me to the possibility of a Hillary presidency was her corruption — she’d mandate school prayer, concealed carry, and NASCAR viewership if she could make a buck off it. But she’s also in her 70s, i.e. the last of the old school. The younger generation **really believes this stuff.**… Read more »
alzaebo
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I have nothing useful to add except “Gosh-dammit! How does he do it?”

Zman’s clarity of vision and acuity of analysis is stunning. Remarkable. Never seen anything like it.

(And he talks like a normal Joe! A rather funny and clever one, at that.)

Alex
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Setting aside a true Article V convention, how will all these aggrieved lefties “seize power”? They’ve been advocating against gun ownership since the 1980s, and I know more than my fair share of quiet normals who happen to have a Glock or AR stored in the basement. Do they really believe their righteous anger (and aforementioned violence) will wash over this country un-contested? I don’t get it.

Thud
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They will ‘organise’ and print snappy placards…we are doomed I tells ya!

Doug
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You guys all got to scope out this set of rules Trump put out for the WH Press Corps. Some items are priceless.
Want to talk about battle plans.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/22/updated-cth-post-inauguration-suggested-media-guidelines-for-white-house/#more-127533

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I knew that we were on the verge of a national realignment when I saw a poor white man’s house in GA flying a Confederate flag from the porch (likely as a response to the earlier Gov. Haley sell out in SC) with a NYC Billionaire’s campaign sign also in his front yard. DemocRats and ChamberPots had abandoned him and it was a plain enough sign if anyone had been looking from the DC Elitist bubble, but of course they weren’t and still aren’t. Voting is a polite way of telling the Elites something, if these putzes sabotage Trump, then… Read more »
Marina
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At this point I’d fly a Confederate flag if I had a house and I’m about as Yankee as they come. But it would enrage the right people, so it’s all good as far as I’m concerned.

Doug
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“…However, you seem to believe revolution and violence are the answer now, and that makes you a domestic enemy of the United States I protect and serve. Do it and I’ll teach you how we make the fuckin’ green grass grow. You keep saying you want a revolution, secession, a new Civil War and the election of “Racist/sexist/homophobic/Republican/Nazi/xenophobic/dictator/Islamophobic/rich guy asshole” Donald Trump is the catalyst for you to take action and destroy every evil you perceive this country to stand for… Well… We’re waiting. Shit or get off the pot. A Message to the Angry Leftists from an American Infantryman… Read more »
LetsPlay
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I would like to take a moment to apologize to Zman and all of you commenters who have become my friends, for my recent outbursts and language at certain trolls on this site (they know who they are). But my main concern is to set things right between you and me and know that I respect all of you and in particular Zman who has provided this forum for us to discuss the many great ideas that he posts. Thank you Zman. And again, my apologies to all.

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No worries LP. You’re good.

Karl Horst
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The local Swiss paper just published two photos showing the crowds at the Obama inauguration and the Trump inauguration. While the sizes of the crowds is clearly different, I suspect those who were in attendance for Obama were unemployed and had nothing better to do that day. Of course that point was not mentioned.

DiogenesLamp
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Much in this post confirms what I have myself learned in this last year. One quibble. The “blue” state and “red” state thing began in 1992 with the Media propaganda effort to elect Bill Clinton. I remember this vividly because I started screaming at the television when I first saw it. Stories were going around about Bill Clinton’s association with communists, his travels to the Soviet Satellite states and his opposition to the Vietnam war through protesting in London. I realized immediately that coloring Clinton “blue” was an effort to divert attention from his Red Communist activities during the 1960s.… Read more »
Paul Bonneau
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Yankeedom has made a wreck of this country. A hell of a lot of evil has originated there, including particularly the importation of Prussian schooling into America. I will not be sad to see those bastards fall on their face.

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