The Fear of Disbelief

I was looking for something I remembered Sailer posting about and I stumbled upon this post from Tyler Cowen. The post is from eight years ago and it is something I found interesting. I did some searching around in his blog to see if he had bothered to revisit the issue and the search came up dry. Cowen, who is one of those guys who likes pitching himself as a step outside the crowd, has avoided the topic for close to a decade, suggesting it was around this point when the subject was declared heretical.

Another thing I found interesting, amusing actually, was that Cowen succumbed to the claim that there is greater genetic diversity within racial groups than between them. While it is true that there is greater variation between individuals, than between groups of individuals, it does not invalidate classifying individuals into different racial groups. Traits common to one group, even in great variety, may not exist in another. Cowen was falling for what is informally known as Lewontin’s Fallacy.

Of course, what screams from the post is the hysteria induced in people like Cowen, when they are sheered between observable fact and prevailing dogma. On the one hand, their brains force them to look at reality. On the other hand, their fear of the morality police makes them want to shriek in terror. Cowen is a gold plated phony, but he is not a dunce. Even way back in 2009, the evidence was clear. There are bone-deep differences between the races that go beyond physiognomy. It’s right there in the mountain of IQ data.

People can be forgiven for not going against their betters. Even spergs like Cowen want to believe in the prevailing orthodoxy. You see that in the end where he writes “racism itself is far, far more harmful, whether in the course of previous history or still today.” That’s the sort of thing a true believer writes, when he is thinking of maybe writing something heretical, but then grows frightened of where it could lead. That whole last paragraph is so carefully worded, it reads like it was written by a committee.

It’s not just the smart guys who are tormented by this stuff. Most normal whites get weepy when they see a guy like Sheriff Clark or Allen West say the sorts of things honkies say in private. It’s confirmation. When you see a gorillion re-tweets of something a conservative black posted, it’s not hard to imagine the relief normies felt when they saw it and the joy with which they passed it along. A couple of generations of whites have been raised up to think of blacks as mystical moral arbiters. Black approval is the highest honor.

There’s also the old noblesse oblige hook. Smart people like to think of themselves as having a duty to guide the less smart toward the correct opinions. A guy like Cowen is not wealthy and he is largely dependent on the state for his livelihood, like most libertarians. Nevertheless, he imagines himself as a member of an intellectual elite, charged with training the next generation and providing intellectual guidance to the ruling class. Promoting the blank slate silliness about the evils of racism feels like his moral duty.

On this point, there is a strange phenomenon that I have witnessed. It is not a lot different than what happens in a church when a long standing member quits because they no longer believe in God. There are members who will try to talk the guy out of it, telling him that they too have lost their faith, but they continue attending services to maintain the tradition or support those who to continue to believe. I’ve never seen this work. Every person who has quit their church did so in their mind long before they left the pew.

I suspect something similar goes on with our betters. They know that even entertaining heretic thoughts can be trouble. They have seen enough old white guys throw in the towel, like James Watson or John Derbyshire. They know that once that seed of doubt gets lodged in the head, it grows into a mighty oak of doubt. Then comes struggle, apostasy and finally banishment from the community of good thinkers. It is better for strangers to think you are a moron than to have your friends and colleagues say you are immoral.

Most people reading this probably belonged to the universal church of biological denialism at some point in their life. It has been dogma for a long time. Probably every white person has felt the warm glow of seeing blacks succeed at white things or showing their appreciation with public acts of patriotism. The opening ceremonies have become American’s favorite part of the Olympics, because it is where they see well behaved non-whites wearing the stars and stripes and looking proud to be Americans.

Race denialism, as John Derbyshire calls it, has been part of the official canon for generations now. Biological denialism have been official dogma for as long as I’ve been alive. Belief is easy when everyone else believes the same thing. Disbelief, however, is inevitable when belief is at odds with reality. When no matter how hard you try to make the belief real, it is thwarted by reality, doubt is the only option. That’s where most whites are now. The question is, what will they believe in next?

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
3 years ago

you didn’t mention the other races who are involved in this dance macabre between whites and blacks. mexicans prefer not to have any blacks around them so are pushing the blacks back into the south. the black community is going to wither and shrink over time as it is ignored more and more. once the dem party goes full negro, the blacks will be totally ignored politically.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

I’ve called the two the Brown Party and the White Party for over twenty years, and every nonwhite ‘gets’ it immediately. They agree with ‘racism’ when I say, “Look, when somebody shames your ‘skin’, you can come down on your own four times harder than I can. Racism is natural, and good, you’re supposed to love and defend your own. We both feel most comfortable with our own; we both are proud of our best, and yet think ours are the biggest knucklheads too. We don’t let idiots bring shame to our skin. That’s what “honor your parents” means- not… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

PS, an insight-

We’ve allowed emotion to be attached to the word “racist”. If I said ‘I’m a diabetic’, people would just shrug.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

well basically the negroes don’t get along with anyone even themselves. everyone else already does get along pretty well.

Member
3 years ago

Since racial denialism is becoming untenable it seems like Hollywood is starting to ease people into an alternative. I just watched a trailer last night for an upcoming Will Smith movie called Bright. Take a look at the 33s point. https://youtu.be/6EZCBSsBxko?t=33s

Thales
Thales
Reply to  cloudswrest
3 years ago

Shadowrun: The Motion Picture

Member
3 years ago

It’s not just reality wearing the faith down. The official narrative has been drifting further from reality over time.

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

At some point, cognitive dissonance will reach the breaking point. The ability to publicly denounce government policy will either succeed or we will fall under the boot of an enforcement tyranny so powerful, free speech will simply disappear.

Brigadon
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

It would be easier to maintain publicly denouncing politics if we would instantly deport any foreigner that starts yammering about them…

cerulean
cerulean
Reply to  Brigadon
3 years ago

Like in Mexico … “Foreigners Cannot Engage in Political Activity The Mexican Constitution states very clearly that “Foreigners shall not in any way involve themselves in the political matters of the country” This is emphatically interpreted to mean that foreigners do not have the right to vote, run for public office, or participate in any political event, rally or demonstration. Additionally, foreigners should stay away from all political activity including any kind of demonstration or protest even if you think it is seemingly [n]on-political. Engaging in these kinds of activities is a good way to be asked to leave the… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Speech is a means to an end. As Orwell observed, it is not really your speech they care about, it is your thoughts. Thoughts that are not freely communicated wither and die, and nature abhors a vacuum. Stark is the realization that our ignorant grandparents were right more often than we are.

Mr. Frosty
Mr. Frosty
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

The Soviets reached that point. One day they were all powerful, the next day they were gone.

Teapartydoc
Member
3 years ago

It would be a lot easier to keep up believing that the emperor is not naked if his ministers would stop calling all of us names and saying we are naked. All that does is call attention to the fact that we are clothed while we can see his junk jiggling all over the place.

Amateur Brain Surgeon
Amateur Brain Surgeon
Reply to  Teapartydoc
3 years ago

The sacred blacks have taught you to speak of your reproductive organs as junk.

Your Grandfather prolly referenced your reproductive organs as “The family jewels” and which puissant difference demonstrates the destruction of culture contributed to those good whites who ape the sacred black man.

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  Amateur Brain Surgeon
3 years ago

I wasn’t talking about my sacred obelisk.

Amateur Brain Surgeon
Amateur Brain Surgeon
Reply to  Teapartydoc
3 years ago

The sad truth is we are all, in part, corrupted by this crummy culture.

dad29
3 years ago

That “denialism” works in a lot of directions. Look at what happened to Joe Sobran and PJ Buchanan, for example.

Ryan T
Ryan T
3 years ago

I guess it’s like getting caught up in arguments about whether immigrants are a net drain or blacks commit more crime, it’s all a sideshow to the main idea that multiculturalism is bad news and racial groups have the right to associate with their own kind.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Ryan T
3 years ago

But, pointing out that immigrants are a net drain or blacks commit more crime are facts that allow us to determine that multiculturalism is bad news. So, its not just a sideshow. It is anecdotal and statistical data that is necessary to determine the truth of the situation. Admittedly, your average yahoo won’t really understand this, but more intelligent people, with an understanding of biology and statistics, will. And besides, your average yahoo won’t really understand that multiculturalism is bad news and racial groups have the right to associated with their own kind because they have been programmed for so… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
3 years ago

Then why is it that the smart people automatically blurt this tripe when a yahoo says, “there were riots every where Martin Luther King showed up to speak”?

Member
3 years ago

Denying sex differences, which they do now, is far crazier than denying statistical variations in the traits between races. At least in the latter case people like Cowen can claim ignorance because they don’t ever interact with blacks etc outside looking at sitcoms and clapping at keynote speakers. I guarantee none of these guys seriously referred to a “female penis” before they were instructed to.

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  fondatorey
3 years ago

That’s women’s march against Trump in DC, with everyone wearing vaginas on their heads. So, so transphobic.

Member
3 years ago

This obviously extends beyond race, to things like gender (or lack thereof), and ideology. There are facts that sane, normal people observe to be self-evident but dare not speak in public. (Actually, a web search for the word “mokita” is what originally led me to your site.) I think the $1.95 college word for the phenomenon is Pluralistic Ignorance, where a majority of people hold (or reject) a certain belief, but keep their opinions secret because they fear that they’re in the minority. Nobody wants to be the brave idiot who stands up first. This is why complete control of… Read more »

Oldfart
Oldfart
Reply to  Peter
3 years ago

I don’t follow a lot of blogs but I do check in on a ew of them fairly regularly. I continually see a similar phenomenon in a somewhat different field, that of Armed insurrection. On any given day dozens of people will claim to be “ready” to go to war against the government, the antifa, CNN or any of a myriad of other boogy-man organizations. Yet no one seems able to get enough time off from their jobs to enable them to actually do anything. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, you understand – if every guy with a… Read more »

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
3 years ago

I think that the underlying problem is spiritual. The cultish suppression of what is right in front of our eyes is necessary *if* one is a self-interested secular materialist wedded to the anti-Christian dogmas of strict human egalitarianism, blank-slateism and human perfectibility through social engineering. Otherwise, the obvious and disorienting spiritual implication is that your non-religion is false in some interminable (not to mention unflattering) way. And the implication for society is that those institutions that are optimized for the Cloud non-religion are going to fail in some indeterminable way as well. This has to be a frightening thought better… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Al from da Nort
3 years ago

Yes, thank you, the preists of the elite twisted the Bhudda’s teaching on karma:

That little girl was not raped and strangled because of desires in HER heart.
It was of because of the mad thirsts in HIS heart.
HIS desire caused HER suffering.

De Ferrers
De Ferrers
3 years ago

What exactly was the purpose of Cowen’s post? He was better off acting like Steve doesn’t exist. He didn’t really state anything beyond “racism is bad mmmk” and provided nothing as far as data or evidence. In fact, it looks like an subtle argument from the consquences, a similar act that prof mcwhorter does, that the consquences are so abhorrent that we must ignore and hide the real data. That is childish and reflects how fragile their worldview really is. We have known for a long time the distributions are different and the distributions have material consquences. Of course, I… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  De Ferrers
3 years ago

These people are beyond merely “racism is bad”. One of the cucks at NR said it for all of them–Some truths should not be said.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
3 years ago

“While it is true that there is greater variation between individuals, than between groups of individuals, it does not invalidate classifying individuals into different racial groups. Traits common to one group, even in great variety, may not exist in another. Cowen was falling for what is informally known as Lewontin’s Fallacy.” I have been trying for years to get some one to tell me what they mean when they say there is greater variation between individuals (usually termed as greater variation within groups than across groups) than between groups of individuals. I’ve never gotten an answer back because this phrase… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Oh, I understand that. Now, how does this relate to comparing genomes? Isn’t that like comparing apples to oranges? Baseball has certain rules, biology has certain rules. And never the twain shall meet. What if you compare hair color or hair texture? There is more variety among Whites as compared to other races. So, this is a possibility. But, it is irrelevant comparing 4 or more hair types in one group to only one in another. And there are those that would argue that these hair colors appear in the other races, too. Just at a much, much lower frequency.… Read more »

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
3 years ago

Every analogy has its limits of application. This is a pretty good analogy.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I forgot to include this. Is there not more variation in salaries levels across baseball teams than within baseball teams? If there are both examples for and against something within an argument, picking one or the other is a choice, but may not have any validity.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Or, there are more differences in intelligence, talents, tastes, and appetites between my siblings and I than there are differences between Anglo-Americans and Jews.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
3 years ago

Groups and individuals operate differently.
We have ignored group behaviors, focusing only on individuals.

Thus, our only explanation is usually, “He’s crazy!”

Member
3 years ago

Whether it’s Obamacare or funding (and aggressive defense) of Planned Parenthood or generous social-welfare programs, or understood segregation in cities, and more college campuses trying to offer segregated housing (as a feature not a bug), etc. I think race realism is already upon us. The issue has never been whether people objectively understand what they see with their eyes. It has always been, “OK, so exactly what should be done about it?” The solution over the last 40-50 years has been to educate the people you can, and subsidize the rest. Biological differences mean that the subsidies fall disproportionately, and… Read more »

John Derbyshire
3 years ago

Yo Z: still got my towel.

Tom From RFNJ
Reply to  John Derbyshire
3 years ago

You always did have an ‘Arthur Dent’ like quality Derb. When we ask the question “what will they believe next”, the answer is that we’re dealing with a distribution so they’ll believe all of the available options in varying percentages. I think the line falls at how they make decisions, which is to say ‘How they act” in life, not “What they say they believe.” Action is the great revealer of what people truly think. In that respect I think most will come to accept Biological determinism. It’s what they know to be true now if you look at how… Read more »

JerryC
JerryC
Reply to  Tom From RFNJ
3 years ago

If you were the guy with the 85 IQ, how would you feel if you were told that it’s in your genes, and is therefore totally inescapable for you (and likely to be inescapable for any of your children to some degree as well)? I’m sure it sucks to be dumb, but what’s the alternative? Tell the 85 IQ people you can go to Cal Tech and become an electrical engineer if you just try hard enough? That seems even more cruel than just letting them know that they’re not cut out for college. Other countries that aren’t “diverse” don’t… Read more »

Tom From RFNJ
Reply to  JerryC
3 years ago

Sure. Totally agreed. But we’re not a homogenous society. 6% (or so) of our population isn’t just low IQ, they’re also on average more aggressive, have lower self restraint, and at some levels are more prone to criminality and violence than average. (I’m speaking males only here… I don’t even want to think about the women.) That’s a tough group to sell the idea to. Especially in an environment where any job which has a low requirement for cognitive ability is likely to be greatly automated. My main point is that I don’t think we can expect them to be… Read more »

Old Surfer
Reply to  Tom From RFNJ
3 years ago

Dunning-Kruger probably kicks in, not to mention all the self-esteem classes in school. Plus the Kardashian once black never go back rap bullshit.
In a sane society, they would learn a trade and be proud of their skills like some of the rather dull but skilled
Mexicans here in SD.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  JerryC
3 years ago

Jerry; Exactly. That’s the sort of thing I was talking about above. What we should be saying is, “Given what we know about HBD, how should we reorder our institutions so that those with lower IQ’s can have as fulfilling a life as is reasonably possible without ruining it for everybody else. I’d say we ought to start with jobs. There are a number of ways. For example, we should look at changing the minimum wage laws. Anybody who doesn’t think that a high minimum wage doesn’t drive down low-skilled employment is wearing ideological blinders. We’re running this unfortunate right… Read more »

Dennis
Dennis
Reply to  Al from da Nort
3 years ago

This comment string between Tom, Jerry and Al has been very insightful and highlights the problem exactly. If all blacks in the US were magically made to look white, but kept their lower IQs and all other characteristics intact, the problem would go away. They would accept their lot in life, become productive blue collar or retail workers, or at least would would not blame others for their failures. I am a relatively intelligent CPA, but have accepted that I will never have the genius or creativity to create great wealth, and have been happy making a good living off… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dennis
3 years ago

The Tokugawa shogun declared genetically identical Japanese to be a lower caste. Formerly honored and necessary tradesmen- leatherworkers, undertakers, sanitary workers (cesspools and benji ditchs), slaughterhose workers- were now second class subjects.

The new bukharin classes almost immediately became infamous for broken families, crime, violence, prostitution, and drunkenness.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Al from da Nort
3 years ago

I can verify that that 85 IQ guy can run circles around me in trucking or construction. He is rightly proud of the job he can do.

Policy is the key. Right now our policies are making the 85 IQs our teachers and managers- look at the Teahers Union in Detroit, Chicago, or Atlanta.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  JerryC
3 years ago

But, but muh Constitution says “all men are created equal”..

The Japanese and the other openly hierarchical societies of Asia don’t have to deal with that.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Tom From RFNJ
3 years ago

Tom; Twin studies long ago disproved the idea of genetic/biological determinism. In those studies, identical twins (who share 100% of their genes) who were reared apart shared about 50% in social and personality characteristics. That’s a lot, but it’s way less than the nearly 100% one would expect if there were such a thing as genetic determinism. It is usually not pointed out, but these studies also refute blank-slateism because ~50% of our personality traits, etc. *are* strongly influenced by our genetics. IOW, it is always possible to up your game, but effort alone will not make you into a… Read more »

Tom From RFNJ
Reply to  Al from da Nort
3 years ago

I’m aware of the literature thanks. But I’m working (so also multi-tasking) and I chose my wording poorly.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Al from da Nort
3 years ago

Again , I must agree. I meet too many professionally dressed, polite, friendly, safe, punctual black and brown Christians to disagree.

Culture and proper position really makes the difference to the hand we are dealt.

How to keep the trash from following?
Freedom of association- that includes attitude as well as race- should not merely be “freedom to run away” (and pay a fortune to do it.)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Gotta say, though, the African blacks- even Somalis, to my surprise- are plumb terrified of American blacks.

Often their ancestors were the criminals that Africans couldn’t handle- so when given the chance, they sold them off to the Porteguese.

The first thing a decent Negro will do is leave the hood if he can. Not so much, other groups.

BlindMan
BlindMan
Reply to  Tom From RFNJ
3 years ago

Most of the high school football team realizes that most of the high school chess club is smarter than them. They somehow seem to live with this pretty comfortably.

Only people who define themselves and their worth mainly by their intelligence have found that there is no other human dimension of that matters.

Pretty convenient discovery.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  BlindMan
3 years ago

“Most of the high school football team realizes that most of the high school chess club is smarter than them. They somehow seem to live with this pretty comfortably.”

The guys on the football team couldn’t care less about the chess club, because most of them are getting laid and basking in the adulation of the rest of the school.

Maybe that’s the answer. Bring back Midnight Basketball.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  bad guest
3 years ago

Bad;
From personal experience: Only the starters.

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
3 years ago

I still don’t know how one separates out culture in assessing innate intelligence; I think it’s impossible. Imagine , if you will, an honest-to-goodness genius Aborigine from the Australian outback – born, raised and still living in that sort of primitive culture; what test is there to assess his/her intelligence? An IQ test – requiring pencil and paper and necessarily some sort of reading comprehension – that somehow eliminates educational achievement? Really. If you cannot read or have never seen “three” dimensional figures printed on two dimensional paper (and asked to rotate a figure 90 degrees) or if you literally… Read more »

Brigadon
Member
Reply to  JohnTyler
3 years ago

You don’t have any idea how non-linguistic IQ tests work? This stuff was all hashed out and corrected for nearly 50 years ago.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Brigadon
3 years ago

For an adult to discover a truth it is first nearly always necessary for him to change his mind. That is why it takes so long to do so unless you have acquired the habit. It is just as the Derb said, life is a series of one bubble popping after another.

nDennis
nDennis
Reply to  Brigadon
3 years ago

Exactly so. Asking someone to repeat five numbers forward and then backwards merely requires the ability to count to ten. Maybe the isolated Aborigine cannot, but 100% of black US citizens can do this before preschool.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  nDennis
3 years ago

Wrong. Repeating back a sequence of numbers have been announced at one second intervals does not test IQ. Repeating them back in reverse order does.

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  JohnTyler
3 years ago

” the MAJORITY of black college students major in total bullshit subjects; e.g., sociology, psych., political science, Black studies , elementary education., etc. ”

People with significantly above average iQs find these subject boring. What’s more, even people with average IQs know that their chances of earning high incomes are better in more challenging majors like engineering and computer science. They’re more likely to at least attempt those courses – and if they’ve any intelligence they’ll quickly find that they have some talent for them.

As you noted, that phenomenon doesn’t seem to exhibit much for black students.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  JohnTyler
3 years ago

have you ever seen an abo? there’s your missing link right there.

Dutch
Dutch
3 years ago

The race thing is just one of the elements used to keep people in the mainstream cult. The cult has stripped many people of any independent thought, and the rest, the doubters, are shamed out of any outward expression of what they are actually thinking. Progress is being made, because when people pretend to drink the Kool-Aid (Jim Jones reference intended), but don’t actually do so, then it is the beginning of the end for the cult. Cults depend on keeping their members in the dark and intimidated. The work of getting alternative ways of thinking is so important. I… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Taking it further, the mainstream cult is deep into shit-testing now. The first real shit-tests were racial equality, gender equality, and gay acceptance. Once these became too universally accepted, they had to move to more extreme tests. Gender fluidity, intersectionality, white privilege, hands up-don’t shoot, punch a fascist, men in dresses in little girl restrooms.

It is interesting to me that the shit-tests are now so many and so extreme. A cult that gets nervous turns up the shit-testing. Unfortunately, a cult that is failing often goes suicidal and homicidal. Plan accordingly.

guest
guest
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

It seems more like the dancing mania of the middle ages, or the widespread cases of demonic possession of whole convents of nuns. Some type of disassociation apparently takes place according to rules or beliefs already established by an authority figure, especially in confined social environments (hmm.. sounds a lot like twitter/facebook). One description that seems particularly apt: “Theologians, inquisitors and exorcists established the rules of mass demonic possession to which dissociating nuns then unconsciously conformed: writhing, foaming, convulsing, dancing, laughing, speaking in tongues and making obscene gestures and propositions. These were shocking but entirely stereotypical performances based on deep-seated… Read more »

guest
guest
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Adding to my previous post and so neatly in line with the overall tone of the article I could not refrain from posting it. I came across this gem: http://nautil.us/blog/why-does-mass-hysteria-affect-mostly-women “Robert Bartholomew, a sociologist in New Zealand who has collected data on 800 outbreaks dating back to 1566, says that in 99 percent of mass hysteria events, the majority of its sufferers are female. But does that mean that there is something particular to the female physiology that predisposes them to hysteria? Not necessarily.” The more the article goes on the stronger the fear of disbelief becomes, ending with the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Simple, profound, and deep. Damm brilliant insight, that was.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

(Dutch’s, that is)

Member
3 years ago

“A guy like Cowen is not wealthy and he is largely dependent on the state for his livelihood, like most libertarians.”

I for one appreciate the deliciousness of this sentence.

Ryan
Ryan
3 years ago

“Another thing I found interesting, amusing actually, was that Cowen succumbed to the claim that there is greater genetic diversity within racial groups than between them.”

I’m pretty sure this argument originally came from Steve Sailer. The above is like observing that there is greater variation in batting average within baseball teams than there is between them, and then concluding that team batting average makes no difference when it comes to winning and losing baseball games.

It is really just remarkably stupid. So much so that it’s a feat of intellectual prowess to be able to believe it.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ryan
3 years ago

Thanks to Dutch, we can see it immediately for what it is.

A shit-test.

I was so hoping new terms and concepts would arrive, and they are.

Preferance cascade! Awareness of Game really will save the West.

Severian
3 years ago

Since public opinion is a pendulum, “what they’ll believe in next” is probably what lots of folks on our side of the internet already seem to believe — that biology is ALL there is. Ever notice how the ends of centuries are the same? They were saying all this back then, too — Degenerate Art, Social Darwinism, fitter family contests, etc. And while I for one couldn’t be happier if we replaced Judith Butler with William Graham Sumner on Intro to Studies reading lists, it’s the same category error.

Severian
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Yep. In this case, though, there’s plenty of even-older stuff that works just fine to rebut the old stuff. You could take the writings of any 1920s Progressive — Margaret Sanger, say — modernize the style a bit, and have a perfect “Alt-Right” (or whatever) manifesto about how we should sterilize the defective races. I’m betting that is what in fact WILL happen, as the pendulum swings back further and harder “right.” (After all, the “Progressives” of the 20s only abandoned all that “race hygiene” stuff because Uncle Joe Stalin told them to, because it was useful in his fight… Read more »

Tom
Tom
3 years ago

How much longer will doctors say dietary fat is bad? Same thing.

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
Reply to  Tom
3 years ago

Well, you should ask commentator BRIGADON (see above) ; surely he would say to you:

” You don’t have any idea how dietary protocols are developed, do you? This stuff was all hashed out and corrected for nearly 50 years ago.”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  JohnTyler
3 years ago

By which lobbyist?

Din C. Nufin
Din C. Nufin
3 years ago

Being a racist would be much easier without people like Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, etc., but IQ misses the point for me. High IQ sociopaths abound, as do low IQ Moral folks. The problem with the inner-city blacks is their behavior, sociopaths, along with most of the people on the African continent, it seems. IQ ? Culture? Oddly enough, sociopathology seems to be working for them. Witness the projected population chart for the African continent mentioned a few blogs ago.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Din C. Nufin
3 years ago

Never having been to Africa but having relatives there, the feedback I get is that many, if not most of the people there just want to get along in life, much like here. But they do live in a low-IQ society, and the amoral higher-IQ types, combining intellectual advantages with ambition and ruthlessness, tend to seize the tools of government and economic power for themselves and their cronies, leaving the rest of them to their own meager devices. The result is what we see in the news stories from there. It appears many of the young male emigrants to the… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

The more intelligent do not seize power in Africa. In low IQ societies what substitutes for intelligence is cleverness. Low IQ plus cleverness grows brutality. Think Idi Amin and others. Brutality may not be the rule in African life, but it rules over it. Higher IQ Africans, in general, are by comparison lacking in brutality even as higher intelligence offers greater opportunities for brutality, which explains some Caucasians.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Din C. Nufin
3 years ago

Yes- empathy is more impotant than IQ.
Much easier to cultivate, too.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Empathy is impossible to cultivate in numerous ethnic groups. There is no there there.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

I’m not sure why you’re beating this drum so vigorously. Yes, the differences between races is both real and consequential. Yes, there will always be people that deny this reality. No, you will not “enlighten” or change their thinking processes with a few internet articles. The fixation that this problem will go away with more talking is naive.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

You’re right of course. If it has come to this, that the race war is on, then the enemy is winning: They go out and kill people. We just cite IQ statistics from Steve Sailor and go enjoy our dinner, flush with our overall team batting average.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
3 years ago

Sorry for the misunderstanding of my comment. I am not asserting that any war has begun. Nor am I advocating for that. My point is that talking is not a viable solution to the many social pathologies that are afflicting us. Rather, it’s an appealing distraction because it’s an easy alternative when compared to the path of hard knocks, which is how real behavioral change occurs. We don’t need more easy, we need more hard.

Glen Filthie
Glen Filthie
Member
3 years ago

I had this very conversation yesterday with a man of otherwise solid intellect and reasonable moral fibre. We got into a minor tiff when I brought up race realism in the rejection of SJW doctrine – and he went into full virtue-signal mode.
“IQ science is quack science, right up there with warble gloaming…” he said. So what will we believe in next? I think the answer is – it certainly won’t be science. It’s too bloody inconvenient for everyone to be useable.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Glen Filthie
3 years ago

“Warble gloaming”? I don’t know what that means, but it sounds interesting.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
3 years ago

it sounds like a line from the poem Jabberwocky

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Glen Filthie
3 years ago

I’ve heard that the application of statistics to social and behavioral sciences is founded on work first done with IQ (by Galton, I think). Supposedly, no result in the social sciences is more established than IQ, and its measurement. Indeed, Jordan Peterson asserts that if IQ is meaningless, then so is everything else in the social sciences. Or something similar to that.

Of course, given the irrepeatability of a signifcant percentage of social science results, maybe it IS all bullshit.

Amateur Brain Surgeon
Amateur Brain Surgeon
3 years ago

“A couple of generations of whites have been raised up to think of blacks as mystical moral arbiters. Black approval is the highest honor.”

Blacks are sacred and woe betide the heretical white who publicly says otherwise.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Amateur Brain Surgeon
3 years ago

May Morgan Freeman strike you down!

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Amateur Brain Surgeon
3 years ago

Praise be to Morgan Freeman

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
3 years ago
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Eclectic Esoteric
3 years ago

Very relevant; it addresses Zman’s question, “where do we go from here?”

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Eclectic Esoteric
3 years ago

Its about time that articles like this showed up. Complaining is useful but it doesn’t solve things and if the complainers want things to be better than they’ll need solutions