A popular topic of conversation on the Dissident Right is the imagined future the Cloud People have planned for us. The word “Brazilification” gets thrown around a lot. Going by mass media, the future will be populated by hairless, caramel colored mulattoes and Asians. That’s unlikely, but the majority-minority future is inevitable. That means America will be a very different place in another generation. Just look how fast Los Angeles went from being surf city to a sprawling version of Tijuana.
Digging around in Baltimore City arrest data last week, I got curious about what other cities had exposed their arrests data to public download. There’s not a lot of consistency, as this appears to be a new project. My guess is some company has figured out how to game the Federal grant system and they are helping cities upgrade their IT systems with Federal dollars. Anyway, I found a data set from the Los Angeles police department that is pretty big. It is their arrest data going back to 2010.
Los Angeles is a city of 3,884,307 people. Since the start of 2010, the LAPD has made 1,146,393 arrests, which is roughly 450 arrests per day. That’s an interesting figure, given that LA has a relatively low homicide rate of 6.7. Baltimore has a murder rate nine times higher, but an arrest rate just 10% higher than Los Angeles, when adjusting for differences in population. Maybe it is just the nice weather that makes people less inclined to homicide one another. Or, it could be the population mix. Here are the demographics of LA.
Los Angeles not only has a relatively small black population, it has a much larger Asian population than you see in most cities. In fact, Los Angeles is an interesting mix, because it is one of the few majority-minority cities. It’s also a large city so the sample size is very big. A boutique college town with lots of diversity is not going to tell us much about our multicultural future, despite what the Cloud People may think. Here’s the break down of arrest per population group.
The law abiding Asians make up for a lot of black crime when you look at the data. The cool thing about the Los Angeles arrest data is they go further than most cities in identifying the ethnicity of the offender. That’s probably something we will see everywhere as America gets less white. The old way of counting white and non-white only made sense when America was mostly white. In the Cloud People paradise, every group gets a classification in the system. Here’s a break down of Asians into their known groups.
Of course, the fun begins when we start to look at homicide numbers. Here’s the break out of murder related offenses by race
What’s interesting is that Hispanics are not over represented in overall arrest data, compared to their share of the population, but they are over performing in the violent crime area. That’s probably due to the drug trade, but that is a guess. The arrest breakout also helps when trying to parse Hispanic whites from non-Hispanic whites in national crime figures. Of course, the old familiar pattern of black violent crime is present in the LA numbers. Blacks are 10% of the population and 36% of murder related arrests.
Here’s the break out by age.
Here’s the arrest by day. It seems that warmer areas have a flatter curve on this for some reason. Maybe cold weather alters police behavior in some way or maybe criminals prefer mild weather. At some point, once I have a enough data from different regions, I’ll do a degree day calculation on arrests to see if there is a correlation. That would maybe say something about police habits.. Doing the same day for day of the crime would maybe say something about the behavior of criminals. Or maybe not.
One interesting thing in the LA data is the number of old people in the arrest data. There are 48 arrest records for nonagenarians. Two were homicides, which is incredible. Even more amazing is 15 arrests were for drunkenness. Maybe this is not so odd, as alcohol related offenses are the third most common arrest code in the system. Drugs are number two with Miscellaneous being the top reason to arrest someone. This is a pattern I saw in the Baltimore data. The arrests codes are not well maintained or enforced.
Here is a break down of arrest codes.
What becomes clear when looking at the Los Angeles crime data is that de facto segregation is a fact of life in a majority minority city. When you break it out by race and area, you don’t have to know a thing about LA to see the pattern. The other thing is Hispanics bring elevated levels of crime, but not the rates you see with black. It’s one reason the Cloud People like Hispanic migration. They get all the benefit of a servant population, without the headaches that come with Africans.
The other interesting thing about Los Angeles is that it is majority-minority, but whites control the political system. Look at the city council. It’s mighty white for a place with just a 30% white population. The truth is, Hispanics are not a group with a real identity. That’s just a made up thing by Progs. Mexicans from the north have little in common with Guatemalans or even Mexicans from the south. This makes forming a unified coalition that can punch commensurate with its weight nearly impossible.
That’s another reason the Cloud People have no fear of migration. So far, it has not cut into their authority. If anything, it makes it easier for them to deal with blacks and troublesome whites. Progs are diluting black influence in their coalition with Hispanics and they are replacing the white working class with them. The Hispanic laboring class makes fewer demands and is far less organized. They may not be reliable voters, but they are cheap voters, relative to working class whites. That’s the way it works for now.
“Hispanics bring elevated levels of crime, but not the rates you see with blacks.”
We’ll see if this holds. It’s hard to be more violent than Blacks, but right now the Hispanics of Honduras and Guatemala are doing it. I’d be willing to bet that, as the number of Hispanics from Central America rises, the differential between Blacks and Hispanics starts to close. The history of Central America is hyper-violent. It’s no wonder Mexica has built a wall on their southern border.
Yup, the most the violent countries in the world are in Latin-America, Rio de Janeiro city has more murders in a year than the entire Syrian Civil War.
Rio is a nightmare for sure, but you are off by several orders of magnitude on the overall number of murders there. Also, Brazil is heavily nigged so their murder rate is in line with their demographics.
Central America’s super high rates of crime may be artificially elevated due to their being proxies between the US and CCCP, during the cold war. Plus all the drug gangs and so forth. Still, the ones here need to be sent back.
That, and central American IQ scores bump against African levels.
“Central America’s super high rates of crime may be artificially elevated due to their being proxies between the US and CCCP, during the cold war.”
Certainly possible, but the highest country on the list, Honduras, was never really much of an area of proxy warfare, and besides, that was all over a generation ago. I doubt that it helped, but Spain went through a similar experience in the 1930’s, but after a comparable length of time, in the 1960’s, they had the lowest murder rate in Europe.
Methinks when you capitalize sentences you are responding via mobile telephone where it is automatic (?)
Pet peeve.
That was @McHungus
no, it’s your client (whatever it is) that is making things uppercase.
Balderdash. Same on Android Chrome and Win FireFox. That comment is capitalized, your above reply to mine is not.
I realize this is frivolous but you’re a very frequent commenter and it sticks out like a sore thumb when you do capitalize.
And, what do you know, it’s also easier to read your comments that way.
Libertarians around here often don’t deign to capitalize either, Hungus. Food for thought.
Repost my comment you are all twisted up about, and I will see what is the problem.
Nope. The comment is not capitalized when I view it.
Or do you just mean capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence as is normal, common and unremarkable?
Correct. Proper sentences / first-letter capitalization. Karl McH very rarely does this. I deemed it worthy of remark.
It’s not nearly as annoying as ALL CAPS but it does have a similar effect on me. I take the writer less seriously (especially if he’s unfamiliar) and have to read a bit slower.
I’ll admit I have delicate aesthetic sensibilities, especially of those typographical.
The thing is a Jap sniper shot my left thumb off, on Vanalua, during the big one.
Just to show I am a reasonable guy, I will strive to use proper capitalization going forward; in spite of the great pain it causes my thumb-stump.
You, sir, are a gentleman.
I read that 5,000+ were murdered in Rio in 2016. Up 20% from 2015. In Syria, well over 500,000 people have died since fighting began in 2011, more than the U.S. lost in all of WW2. (If that number is admitted to by the West publicly, the real number is probably double that at least.) The cause for death in Syria was attempted regime change, or coup d’etat, of that sovereign nation’s leader Bashar al Assad using proxy forces trained, armed and paid by the U.S. along with some of our Western friends and the Gulf states and, of course… Read more »
neocons gotta con, birds gotta sing
At some point won’t we have to realize that Spaniards and Ameri-Indians are not the same ethnic group? Obviously I can’t prove my point because no one collects the data, but I strongly suspect that if you took “Hispanics” and subtracted out the white people, the unsavoriness of the remainder would be as disproportionate to their numbers as stereotype would expect.
My observation (from 28 years living near Los Angeles) is that there are three ethnic groups (naturally there’s been a lot of mixing, but as a broad generalization): Spanish/Euro — pretty much like any other southwest-European. Seldom seen as immigrants, being how they’re also the successful class in Mexico. Big chunky Indians — good workers when they work, not real bright, not much ambition, more or less honest (tho “ownership” can be a flexible concept). Little wiry Indians — higher IQ tho less tractable, often ambitious but flighty and unreliable. I also saw this type coming from South America. Appears… Read more »
Mexico has a Wall?!!
Well, well, well…
Huh. Turns out they have machine guns on that wall, too. Mexicans must hate brown people.
The “white” numbers are misleading. I’ve lived in LA almost my entire 50 years, and a “white” in LA is as likely these days to be an Armenian, a Persian, a Turk, an Arab, Israeli or a North African.
I live a part of town considered one of the WASPier holdouts. But even here Europeans are now a small proporation of the population. The past 30 years have been pretty eerie. A world being washed away.
Hispanics are the Goldilocks of peasants. Just right. Blacks are too violent. Whites and Asians too smart and interested in advancement.
what would be really interesting is to know how much of the hispanic violent crime is directed at blacks. because they are deliberately driving blacks out of california. that the dems are clearly moving away from nigs in favor of mexicans, is lost on the dim witted negroes. they don’t stand a chance. the mexicans will grind the blacks into dust over time until they only exist in pockets of the south (or in protected reserves).
We can call them Tribal Trust Lands like in Rhodesia. Good times ahead.
I was born in L.A. in ’51. Grew up there. Moved to O.C. to get away from the madness but wound up teaching in Lynwood (first city North of Compton) for 15 years. I watched, firsthand, the displacement of negroes by Mexicans via the classroom within about 10 years. Actually, it was great to see. Once I established classroom dominance (which never took me long to do) the disciplinary problems plunged to almost zero. Not so with the Blacks. They would challenge me almost daily. Detention (HA!) and even weeks long suspension never worked. Parental involvement? Don’t make me laugh.… Read more »
negroes are irredeemable; there is no profit to be had in trying to help them in any way. you just end up the worse for the effort. send them all back.
Mexican immigration is about two main issues. One is we don’t want southern Mexicans. El Norte’s do fine in America, as they have been a feature of the Southwest since the beginning. Anything further south is trouble. The other issue is simply numbers. We do not have a labor shortage so we do not need to import fresh labor.
The LA City Council is not what I’d call mighty white:
5 Hispanics
3 Blacks
3 Jews
2 Europeans
1 Armenian
1 Korean
Both of the Euro councilmembers are also COINCIDENTALLY homos.
As an increasingly reluctant Angeleno, I appreciate Zman’s breakdown of LA crime data. Most people in LA just want to get along, which really means, to get away, from each other. People prefer to live with their own kind, whatever that kind may be. Progressive efforts to squeeze “diverse” people into the same box fail because such efforts are counter to human nature, which really means, nature, as in biology, as reflected in instinct and culture. LA’s temperate weather must impact criminal behavior in some way. Most of the time, the weather in LA is delightful. We have heat spikes… Read more »
Z Man; Thanks for a *very* informative excursion into the possible future, assuming no ‘black swan’ events. The best thing is the demonstration of *why* The White Cloud is so fervent about open borders. They get to stay in charge and now they don’t have to bend the knee to Blacks any more. Plus cheap servants_! This also explains the sudden increase in agitating Black subversion. Keeps their minds off noticing that The White Cloud is actively working against their interests now instead of merely giving lip service while actually ignoring those interest, as the White Cloud did in the… Read more »
Good point- getting blacks to do their own negative advertising, thus increasing popular support to move the Sainted somewhere else. Plus, you can still call your real enemies racist!
I think over the next 25 years, “Hispanic” or “Latino” will be replaced by something which splits out the white people from those two groups. As I’ve written before, if you look at the pictures but ignore the surname, you’re looking at white people of various sub-ethnicity. The Italian guy (Buscaino) is Italian by lineage, for example, but he’s just a generic Liberal White Guy too.
Just having some fun with this simple fact would throw Democrat Party politics into a tail spin pretty quickly.
Nice research work and conclusions going on here. Of course, just like the “gun control” controversy, the truth of the thing is irrelevant for those on the other side of the argument. They will continue to spew their untruths and pretend they are factual, and denounce the facts of the thing as made-up horseshit. Their followers will take their statements, and regurgitate them as “factual” in a self-referential round-robin. But it is useful to get all of this on the record. Living here in Southern California, all of the conclusions you are drawing “feel” absolutely correct, at the street level.… Read more »
You might want to look at El Paso’s stats if they are up. A decade ago, it was one of the safest large cities in the country for violent crime, but property crime was off the charts. Across the border in Juarez, more blokes were getting murdered in drug-related violence every week than were getting offed in Baghdad. And these were vatos from the same families. Everyone had tios and primos on both sides of the border. You’re right. Part of it is that new minorities key off the existing elites. But I’ve always felt that El M had something… Read more »
I lived in LA for a few years in the Playa del Rey neighborhood. Despite the name, it’s one of those rich and very white enclaves (we lived in a cheap apartment but right behind a neighborhood of $million+ houses).
Once in a while we would see an LAPD patrol car but not often. During the 2nd Rodney King trial they were on high-alert. Out walking the dog I saw them roll by with 4 officers in a car, 3 of them fast asleep.
Yes, they assume that the rest of America will be like California, with fat sleazy meximerican politicians mindlessly doing what the oligarchs pay them to do: encouraging people to deliberately give each other AIDS for example.
I see an alliance of some sort between Asians and Whites mixed in with assimilated and generationally well to do Hispanics in our future. Also expect an influx of whites from Southern Africa at some point.
Popular politics is an exclusively white phenomenon. Asians appear to vote for the winner, which is a classic minority group characteristic. If you’re a distinct minority, it is wise to support whoever is in charge or at least be viewed that way. I suspect this is why Jews in America vote like Puerto Ricans. Hispanics tend not to vote unless the honky organizes them to vote. They seem to lack the ability to self-organize politically and they easily fall into tribal squabbling.
LA is about to be a good test case of Smart Fraction Theory.
Vancouver, BC is a good place to look if you wish to see Asian behavior in a western society. Survey says… Educated Asians behave as market dominant minorities similar to Jews. They do not tend to care about the middle class, or seem as concerned about the commons. The only people who ever care about the commons in any society are those who tend to think of themselves as collective owners of those commons. Minorities will always see commons as a resource to exploit. Whites are not uniquely virtuous in this regard. As whites become a minority expect them to… Read more »
Once a few patriarchs in an Asian family decide on what the politics are the entire family goes that way. Not as much racial solidarity as you might think. The last election is a good case in point.
I wonder if we aren’t over-thinking this? Most of our Cloud People aren’t that bright either. I just don’t see them being bright enough to engineer a population where the beaners bump off the niggers for fun and profit. Sure – they may want that; but they’re far more likely to end up with a 3 to 5 way racial pie fight, with most of the pies being flung at them. The third world is a shithole because of the people that live there. Now they’re here, and of course they are falling into the same grinding poverty they lived… Read more »
I reject the idea that majority-minority is inevitable for the United States. There are several ways to avoid this problem, some uglier than others, but all will work.
All it takes is a leader, a small band of dedicated lieutenants, and millions will follow.
Did the data come from City of LA or LA County?
“Los Angeles is a city of 3,884,307 people”, he says. L.A. County is 10 million and change.
Right, just wanted clarification for that reason. When most people talk about “Elllayy” they usually include lots of parts that are not in the city.
I believe it is just the city of Los Angeles.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/10/12/opinion/ben-shapiro.html
You guys are considered buffoons
That’s what Marie Antoinette said.
Actually, she said,” You guys are considered buf-“
K Simp, your remark is much less a comment about the alleged “buffoons” than about yourself. Key word: “considered”, used with the passive voice. Likewise, “extreme right” is a comment about communists’ extreme deviance in favor of the ugliest politcs. I would agree, however, that most right wingers are buffoons who represent no significant threat to totalitarians. It worked the same way in Russia, more or less, when the czar, a sentimental Jew worshipping twit, tilted leftward. Then came people like Kerensky. Then Lenin, Stalin, et al. The contemporary situation in America implies that your evident fear of the “extreme”… Read more »