I Was Wrong

A while back, I said the “deep state” stuff was wildly overdone. There is no deep state secretly pulling the strings. Well, I may have been mistaken. This IBD story makes me look ridiculously naive.

A 1979 column confirms our 2008 editorial positing that the 44th president might owe his meteoric rise to an education funded by Israeli-hating adviser to a Saudi billionaire.

On Sept. 9, 2008, we published an editorial as part of our attempt to properly vet the then junior senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, whose past was somewhat foggy. We pointed out the connection between one Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, born Donald Warden, an Israeli-hating Islamist supporter and top adviser to radical Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, and a college student .

That college student, a young Obama, found al-Mansour’s favor and would one day be president as Israel was abandoned by America and the Middle East burst into flames amid a sea of presidential apologies, including one for our freedom of speech.

In a televised interview in 2008 on New York’s all news cable channel, NY1, 88-year-old Percy Sutton, a former borough president of Manhattan and a credible mayoral candidate in 1977, made some interesting revelations about his links to the young Obama.

Sutton told NY1 reporter Dominic Carter on the show “Inside City Hall”: “I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him.” He asked Sutton to write a letter in support of Obama’s application to Harvard Law School.

“The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas,” Sutton said. “He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.”

Sutton recalled that al-Mansour said that “there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?” Sutton did.

According to Newsmax columnist Kenneth Timmerman, “At the time, Percy Sutton, a former lawyer for Malcolm X and a former business partner of al-Mansour, says he (al-Mansour) was raising money for Obama’s graduate school education, al-Mansour was representing top members of the Saudi Royal family seeking to do business and exert influence in the United States.”

Steve Sailer has written a lot about Obama’s spooky family connections to Indonesian potentates and US intelligence people.  Here’s one of his posts on the subject. Here’s another one. What’s always been remarkable about Obama is that no one ever looked too closely at his background. That IBD story has been kicking around for years, but is just getting attention now. It’s almost like the major news organizations all agreed to not cover any stories about Obama’s past that would complicate the narrative.

My default explanation for this wall of silence about Obama’s dodgy past was that the mass media is both lazy and biased. They report what the Democrats deliver to them. The small portion of the media that is not Progressive gets its stuff from the GOP, but the Republicans are always careful not to upset their friends on the Left. I still think there is a fair amount of that, but most of it is probably the people at the top agreeing to put their thumb on the scales. They thought a black president was a good idea.

That’s all fine, but how is it the Saudis saw Obama as a good investment all those years ago? By his own account, Obama was not looking like a good bet as an undergrad. It was only after he got into Harvard Law that he started to develop the personality to get into politics. As the IBD story notes, the Saudis were sponsoring lots of minorities, hoping to build a class of policy makers and politicians that were pro-Arab. The story mentions their plan was to sponsor up to 10,000 students at $20 million per year.

What the story does not mention is how they would make it work. The story mentions the now imprisoned Prince Alwaleed bin Talal interceding on Obama’s behalf to get him into Harvard. Again, how could he know Obama was a keeper? How could these guys know about any of the students they were sponsoring? As a skeptic of the deep state stuff, that’s a question that I can’t easily answer. I know they were not stopping random blacks, asking for their GPA and whether they hated Jews. It must have been more sophisticated.

I’m not ready to start listening to InfoWars. I’m going to need a lot more than a president with a dodgy back story before I start talking about chem trails and conspiracies. But, I think I was too hasty in dismissing the deep state claims. There’s a level of coordination done out of site that shapes our politics and the coverage of our politics. Foreign powers look for people in the empire to bribe, and those people help grease the wheels and coordinate efforts like the Saudis were apparently running for the last forty years.

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Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
7 years ago

No wonder Bush 43 went into his dormouse act once Obama was elected. If he was a Saudi protege he was part of the club. The Bushes see themselves as oil royalty, and the Saudis as sort of kin. How we still fell for his all-American everyman schtick even after he evacuated his Saudi pals after 9/11 is incredible. Just goes to show how disoriented everyone was back then.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
7 years ago

I think GWB was like an atomic red pill that made things clear (or at least clear enough to figure out that a con was on) for millions of Trump supporters.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
7 years ago

Just because Babs Bush refers to Saudi Prince Bandar as “Bandar Bush,” and crazy old H.W. calls Bill Clinton a “son” doesn’t mean they’re kin! 😉

It means the Bush Crime Family is re-affirming their “capos” within the organization.

Peter Klein
Peter Klein
Member
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
7 years ago

Agreed. The near total silence on the Bush admin connections to Saudi Arabia, the Bin Laden family itself was unreal!

Maybe Obama wasn’t such a long shot after all. Others have thrown out numbers like 10,000, which, were this a situation akin to playing the lottery would still be a gamble. But the list of suitable candidates shrinks immensely if each must be blood related to certain families.

Come to think of it, Bill Clinton’s true lineage is suddenly more interesting.

PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

I don’t think it is a conspiracy …it’s an ecosystem….those at the top of society select carriers of information (propaganda) in order to use them to influence the culture, to shape the culture so that the culture suits them…this is a process of domestication…just as mankind domesticated livestock by selecting certain animals for their traits…mankind, over thousands of years, selected meaty animals with mild dispositions…and eventually we wound up with domestic livestock…this was a deliberate process, requiring coordinated action….but it was not a conspiracy… this is a known process… from wikipedia: Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural… Read more »

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Just finished Attkisson’s new book “Smear”. Quite a good look into how much of journalism has become “transactional”. Rather like the ants, not a far reaching conspiracy, but each acting by a combination of basic ideology x greed x laziness x desire to be in the “in” crowd. And bingo, you get the reason the Fusion GPS people are terrified to releasing the records of who they paid for what.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Ecosystems are more difficult to break than conspiracies. That is a problem. But they can be attacked from many different angles.

PropagandaHacker
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

dutch wrote:
“Ecosystems are more difficult to break than conspiracies. That is a problem. But they can be attacked from many different angles.”

-social ecosystem collapse may be the only avenue…

Issac
Issac
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

It is important not to draw too many unnecessary distinctions between conspiracy and environment (ecosystem). Both are impacted by things outside of anyone’s control; however, both also involve people and planning. The line between these things blur.

Philhellenic
Philhellenic
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

lot of thought and effort went into that piece PH. pretty convincing. thanks.

Spherical_Cube
Member
7 years ago

You can’t dismiss conspiracy theory any longer. Too much of it has turned into conspiracy fact. I remember when people were poo-poo-ing ECHELON as conspiracy theory. WRONG, it was conspiracy fact.

There are ghosts and monsters out there. And they do move the world.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Spherical_Cube
7 years ago

Conspiracy is just legal jargon for “agreement to commit an illegal act”.

It does not require “ghosts and monsters” any more than a simple pact between a gunman and a driver to rob a bank does! Its a simple human endeavor.

Only those who wish to discredit the obvious, give supernatural connotations to the word “conspiracy”; mostly as a means of hiding the crime!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Spherical_Cube
7 years ago

Ghosts and monsters, moving the world.
Vivid poetry, a true gem, apt and majestic.
May I steal it?

Occasional Commenter
Occasional Commenter
7 years ago

I had heard something a long while back about Saudis bankrolling a number of young Americans. I figured it was planting lots of seeds and betting that a few would successfully take root.

My question has always been, if someone was doing that, how many other potential Obamas are out there?

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Occasional Commenter
7 years ago

This. For every Obama or other semi-successful Saudi-sponsored politician walking the streets, there are a thousand other Saudi-sponsored losers who took the money and ran. It’s the cost of doing business.

Most of your writing on the deep state has been focused at the level of civil servants. This story in no way invalidates your position.

James LePore
Member
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

I agree, losses are to be expected. They hit the jackpot with Obama. However, did the Saudis foresee him siding with Iran against them? That could not have been part of their plan as Iran is now so much a threat to the Saudis existence that they are aligned with Israel against them. This kind of unintended and sometimes disastrous consequence is what happens when you interfere at the micro and macro level in human relations, especially when hate is your prime motivation.

Chris Burns
Chris Burns
Reply to  Occasional Commenter
7 years ago

Yes – shotgun approach. Even if they don’t hit the target directly (as noted below, they kind of hit the jackpot but for ValJar) they’d get a lot of sympathetic people. Target degrees in the legal/social/educational/management classes and build ground level support.

Given the recent Islamophilia in education in very Christian Southern states, I wonder how many early education degrees have been funded by similar programs

bogbeagle
bogbeagle
Reply to  Occasional Commenter
7 years ago

I reckon that Abedin is a Saudi plant … and that she was being groomed to be the natural successor to Clinton, as the 2nd Female POTUS. She ticked all the right boxes.

Reply to  Occasional Commenter
7 years ago

Invasion of the pod people?

Remember you aren’t paranoid if they really out to get you!

Guest
Guest
7 years ago

I have an buddy whose father taught Obama at the Punahou school. He described Obama as a lazy, unmotivated stoner, not particularly bright, and arrogant.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

I believe it. He was playing a role even then. Don’t forget that his unusual family background would make him a target, even in a place like Hawai’i, so he became the class “show off.” His mother was far away, re-married to an Indonesian guy; his namesake father was supposedly an African government functionary, but more likely he was sired by a creepy Communist Party news reporter (Frank Marshall Davis) sent from Chicago to keep an eye on the docks, along with Harry Bridges. I have always thought that his white grandparents, the Dunhams, were in league with Communists also.… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

The Kenyan Dad thing gave him a more interesting back story, and allowed him to game the education system and the media, which was much more willing to speak generously of an exotic half-black with Kenyan blood. Being the son of a commie Chicago sleaze bag does not get you the educational goodies, and it leads the outside observer to distrust what statements Obama might have been making. Speaking of Obama’s statements, away from the script and the teleprompter, he cannot make a coherent argument. He also feels the need to stray from his scripts, knowing full well that his… Read more »

bad guest
bad guest
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

I think he’s more relaxed now.
Obama smoking pot again, claims bombshell new book
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/obama-smoking-pot-claims-new-bombshell-book/

Member
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

Not having a father in the picture is a big part of the deep state grooming process. The deep state becomes a surrogate father.

Nancy Bea
Nancy Bea
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

And Mooshelle is a tranny and the two “daughters” are hired actors.

Alien
Alien
7 years ago

The Left, as well as the Right, but the Left is much, much better at it, has for quite some time devoted a lot of effort into developing “bench strength.” Money from Leftist-supporting sources is quietly funneled to potential candidates who may support their ideology. It’s worth it to sink a few bucks into the campaign of the county councilman who may wind up as a state legislator and potentially advance to Congress and maybe to the Presidency. Yes, it’s a very long game with no guarantee of success; in fact, I’m sure there are way more losers than winners,but… Read more »

Simon
Simon
Reply to  Alien
7 years ago

In the UK we have an organistaion called Common Purpose. They fund and push their agenda for leftists. This site exposes them. http://www.cpexposed.com
You probably have something very similar.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  Alien
7 years ago

No different than the venture capital game. Of twenty investments you expect fifteen to go to zero, four to have enough success that you extract your investment via an early sale or liquidation of the IP (depending on how clever you are at getting senior rights to the company IP) and one is a blockbuster. The political pyramid is no different. They all meet your screening criteria at the outset, but only a few have the right combo of right idea and right time to really succeed.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Alien
7 years ago

Let’s be brutally honest. The “right” has done this in your country for just as long. They were just cultivating cucks.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alien
7 years ago

The Chinese had no way of knowing that an Arkansas lieutenant attorney general in 1979 would be the jackpot, either.

Nancy Bea
Nancy Bea
Reply to  Alien
7 years ago

Investigate the Castro Brothers from San Antonio. They have been groomed and awaiting for commie greatness. Bill Clinton is another. How did his single, waitress, mother send him through Harvard? There have been others during my lifetime and I am sure there are many waiting for their chance

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Nancy Bea
7 years ago

Bill Clinton attended Georgetown University in Washington DC, not Harvard. US Senator Wm Fulbright from AR was his patron there. Bill got a Rhodes Scholarship and went to England (forget if it was Oxford or Cambridge U.) and hung out with other Rhodes Scholars like Strobe Talbott from Yale and whats-his-name Reich, both of whom served during the Clinton Presidential Administrations. Bill Clinton got back from Europe w/o finishing a Master’s degree, and went to Yale Law School. That’s where he met Hillary. Bill’s mother was a private duty nurse, not sure if she was R.N. Her 2nd husband was… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
7 years ago

Is this not also related to Valerie Jarrett, whose father-in-law was a close confidant of the attorney that administered the Saudi sponsorship of minorities? The plan was to sponsor thousands of students, but it appears that Obama was one of the few who were actually sponsored. I recall that an obscure St. Petersburg Florida newspaper article from decades ago laid all of this out as it was beginning to be implemented. The article was authored by Vernon Jarrett, Valerie’s father-in-law. References linking the Saudis, Vernon Jarrett, and Obama were supposed to have been scrubbed from the record, but because this… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

al-Mansour (real name Donald Warden), an associate of Bobby Seale and the Black Panther Party, was the attorney representing the Saudis, Vernon Jarrett was a friend of his and the father-in-law of Valerie Jarrrett, and another of Vernon Jarrett’s close circle of friends was Frank Marshall Davis, a friend of Obama’s mother and grandparents. Davis and the Jarretts operated out of Chicago. Davis is rumored to have been Obama’s real father, and was Obama’s father figure during his teenage years. Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Vernon Jarrett, al-Mansour, the Saudis, Frank Davis, Chicago, the Black Panthers, it’s all a closed loop. Perhaps… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

When Obama was trying to sell Chicago as a site for the Olympics, he was asking a billion dollars for the slum Projects he had ‘organized’ when young. Valerie Jarrett owned those. The other half, already sold off for redevelopment, were owned by Michelle’s father, John Robinson. The Russians have a word for Deep State. That word is ‘biznis’. What we’re seeing is an unacknowldged economy. Examples are Mafia or Cartel business- or Cayman Islands havens, nonprofit foundations, shell companies, equity/hedge funds, governmental interagency finance, black budgets. The lack of transparency- their books aren’t public- doesn’t mean they don’t exist.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

I forgot charities! “Here, Bob, they’re after me, can you hold my money for a while? I’ll hold yours when they come after you.”

Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

It’s all been gamed to the max, Al. Go look at the foundations’ and charities’ IRS 990s. They are just tax shelters for the cloud, agents for them to “shape” their environment to maximize profits, and places for them employ their henchmen off the balance sheet. This is a really good site: http://foundationcenter.org/find-funding/990-finder

DAN III
DAN III
7 years ago

Barry Soetoro was a “resident” of Indonesia for many years after his adoptive father took him there. Indonesian law only allowed Indonesian citizens the ability to live and school there. Soetoro, aka obama,was and may still be an Indonesian citizen. Not only was the scoundrel NOT a natural born citizen he was an Indonesian moslem citizen. He was ineligible to be POTUS. But, the Deep State protected the truth. Many lawsuits were attempted to make Barry and the Deep State accountable. But, every federal, black-robed bandit ruled the plaintiff had “no standing” to challenge soetoro’s legitimacy or lack thereof !… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  DAN III
7 years ago

As I mentioned in my comment above, I really believe Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama’s biological father. The photographic evidence nails it! This is Obama’s ace-in-the hole — that he is indeed a “Natural-Born Citizen,” per the requirements of the US Constitution. Did you ever notice how unconcerned he was about the subject of his birth? He was openly mocking of people like Donald Trump who wanted to investigate this matter. However, no one in the press/Democrat Party had the stomach to call the first African-American man to be elected President of the USA, a bastard, which truly was… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

If the Democrats manage to make a clean break, free of both the Clinton and Obama crime organizations, the revelations that will be forthcoming about those two clans are going to be epic. The files used to buy political omertà, held by Bill, Hill, and Barack, are likely thorough and damning on everyone. But as we careen into full disclosure and full accusation on sex lives, personal abuse, and other nasty habits, the willingness to face the potential personal destruction consequences of whistleblowing appears to be rising. It is now “cool” to disclose and “uncool” to retaliate. The worm is… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

And his grandmother dying the night before the election. How… strange.
The last witness.

His gran and parents were Agency.
Having sheltered such children, I believe he was…sold…for access or diplomacy.

It’s like a bloody glaring spotlight to us who’ve seen it before. Thus his endless rage at the world that made him.

A perfect weapon, highly motivated and self-propelled, like any bacha bazi.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

That look on his face in the family picture in Indonesia- a frightened, powerless little boy- damn near broke my heart.

Just an asset. Just a casualty.
Poor, poor little guy!
Damn this wicked world!

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

I don’t understand how anyone can view this pic and not see his father
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/barack-obama-and-grandfather_n_2808285.html

Rod1963
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

Barry is also the spitting image of the Indonesian founder of Subud. Do a image search on the founder and you can see it.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Rod1963
7 years ago

Puzzles on top of other puzzles. The childhood photo of Obama does not look at all Indonesian, and is indeed a spitting image of Frank Marshall Davis. But the Obama we see as an adult looks exactly like many dark skinned Indonesians, and not very African at all. What gives?

DAN III
DAN III
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

Dr. Dre, “….the first African-American man to be elected President of the USA….” Well, well, well….you chime right in with the language of the Amerikan left. As the story goes barry soetoro, aka obama, was the product of a caucasian female and a negro male. 50/50, white/dark. Neither a negro or a caucasian. A mulatto. A half-breed and a bastard to boot ! HTF is it barry happens to be, in the language of the Amerikan Left, “African-American” ? Why don’t you and your pals on the Left refer to the moslem, Taqiyaa-practicing, communist as a white male, a caucasian… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  DAN III
7 years ago

African-American is the current, socially acceptable way to refer to someone of black African descent, more or less light or dark. I did not invent this term but have noticed how it has achieved common usage since the 1980s. The term “Black” was OK starting in the 60s; I remember as a child that “Colored” was considered a polite way to speak of Negro people. It is still in use, e. g. the NAACP, and I have heard the phrase “people of color” in high-toned venues, such as PBS. So, we defer to the AA-B-Cs to determine what is permitted,… Read more »

Georgiaboy61
Georgiaboy61
Reply to  Dr. Dre
7 years ago

If Frank Marshall Davis is indeed Barack Obama’s actual father, then Obama is qualified to be POTUS under the NBC clause of the constitution. However, would not Obama then be guilty of misrepresenting himself to the public during the certification process of the nomination, as well as during the campaign proper? Obama is accomplished at very few things, but we know the man lies as naturally as he breathes. Fraud on this scale is truly breath-taking; Obama and his handlers were nothing if not skilled grifters in pulling off the biggest political con-job in American political history. However, the “audacity”… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Georgiaboy61
7 years ago

It is/was a terrible con-job. Dreadful. I remember getting a creepy feeling that the fix was in and we were being set-up for this way back in 2004, I think it was, the Democrat National Convention, when John F’ing Kerry became the candidate vs. President GWB. Obama gave the “keynote” address and the press etc. all had a collective orgasm at his wonderfulness. This just built with Bush barely defeating Kerry, who fought in Vietnam, ya know. Bush’s 2nd term bit the dust in a hurry, to no one’s great disappointment, ending in the bank bailout mess in Sept 2008.… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
7 years ago

Power hates a vacuum. Democracy is a vacuum awaiting a conspiracy, because power must go to the trouble of shaping the thoughts of people it does not respect. The Saudis did not imagine they would bag a President, or need to. No one needs to that is working against the interests of the country. Executive leadership is essential for preserving the interest of the country. The FBI, CIA, Justice, and State have revealed themselves to be zealously Deep State in committing to crippling a watershed election. Like ants, they do not need direction, but understand what must be done because… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  james+wilson
7 years ago

Add the media, Hollywood, and much of Congress to that list. Perhaps not consciously Deep State, but traveling the path.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
7 years ago

If you are old enough to remember just how much in petrodollars was sloshing around in those days, why not invest a fraction in those that might prove sympathetic and useful later on. Went to a very similar school to Obama at exactly the same time. Finding candidates would not have been hard. Elite schools + minorities sympathetic to the “cause” was not exactly a screamingly large cohort. My working theory on the transcripts at Columbia and Occidental was always that they wished to hide the courses he took, not the grades. The removal of meaningful distribution requirements plus the… Read more »

Teapartydoc
Member
7 years ago

My realization that suboptical skullduggery was real was when Nancy Pelosi used the word “AstroTurf” with such unconscious facility when talking about the Tea Party. I knew right away that if there was a lexicon used out of the public eye about political theater, that there were likely other activities using their own language at other levels that we never see. I’m not saying that I know what these are. It’s just that when you find a fossilized bone it’s a good assumption that there’s a beast of which it is a part.

JoAnn Leichliter
JoAnn Leichliter
7 years ago

Two separate books were written detailing President Obama’s very peculiar past and were published prior to his being elected for the first time. Unfortunately, I seem to be one of the few people who read them.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  JoAnn Leichliter
7 years ago

Those books were the official notification of the Story that must be adhered to.
Webster Griffin Tarpley had a reply out within a few weeks of the first one It’s a rush job that’s poorly edited, lots of typos etc. It’s worth a read.

https://www.amazon.com/Barack-H-Obama-Unauthorized-Biography/dp/0930852915

OKJ
OKJ
7 years ago

Sometime around 2000 or 2001 when I had my first PC I stumbled onto a video of Obama walking a college campus and been exalted as the coming first black president. The video is the source of the black and white photos you see of Obama wearing a fedora. In the video you see afro wearing blacks playing dominos and smoking weed. These other brothers do things like obligatory black power first and tell you the star of the video will be the first black president. I didn’t think much of it and would never had even remembered it probably… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
7 years ago

Oh, and the Soviets worked that system to a degree far more sophisticated than any Arabs or Persians for seventy years. The Saudi road was already paved with Soviet asphalt.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
7 years ago

The rumors at Harvard, of which I am an alum, have consistently said that the Saudis bought Obama’s way into Harvard Law, despite his nonexistent qualifications. Nor was he the first…

TomA
TomA
7 years ago

A lot of power players (including foreign governments) have engaged in this sort of machination throughout history. Most European aristocracies of yesteryear were interconnected via marriage (talk about planting the seed early). Sounds like you’ve only just begun to become aware of the Obama backstory. You have some catching up to do.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 years ago

IBD also published a series exposing the Clintons as China’s number one spies.
1000 Chinese front companies were operating unnoticed in provincial, backwater Arkansas, spreading influence.

Now, under which Administration did a 1950’s Communist economy vault forward 50 years to missle, satellite, and nuclear tech?

Under which Administration did CALPERS, and most other state pension funds, invest one-fifth of public pension funds in ‘Red Chip’ companies in a non-capitalist nation?

Funding said vault, with a big promo by Republican investment houses to jump on the sellout gravy train of outsized return?

El+Eff
El+Eff
7 years ago

For a level headed discourse on the “Shadow Government” and “Deep State” I recommend listening to former CIA agent Kevin Shipp. As he says of himself, “I come from the belly of the beast”. He knows what he is talking about because he walked the walk. Recently, he was a guest on the Hagmann and Hagmann report. Good interview on 16 August 2017 and they had him back on on September 2, 2017 where he gave an outstanding PP presentation. I highly recommend both, worth your time. Both on H&H You Tube channel. Z Man – welcome to the Dark… Read more »

Rien
7 years ago

20 million a year? Man, that is CHEAP if it gets you a president for 8 years. (Not to mention the slew of other high level operatives)

But it makes me wonder how this ties in with ‘drain the swamp’ and the current upheaval in S.A.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Rien
7 years ago

That’s what I noticed. We weren’t watching Trump’s pimp hand- he is attacking the Royal allies of the two cojoined crime families that have nearly destroyeed this nation, the Bush/Clinton marriage of the Dixie and Gulf mafias (thanks again, LBJ). Jared Kushner and Mnuchkin visited SA the week before Salman Jr’s coup. Trump’s tax plan attacks the main funding sources of the Cloud mafia economy- ‘redevelopment’, ‘foundations’, ‘nonprofits’, ‘redistribution’, etc. The fiefdoms contending in the game of thrones are money laundry centers fed by smuggler’s ports: Chicago-SanFran/Seattle (DSA, Democrat Socialist Alliance), NYC-Florida (Hillary, Jeb, Zetas), Los Angeles-Laredo TX (DSA, Bush/Salinas,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Oh, and the Arab Spring, Ukraine Maidan, Venezuela collapse, and Greek default were other theater operations.
It’s becoming a World war.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Strike Venezuela collapse- that was VZ and Cuban stupidity while Obama slow-walked the Gulf oil spill so his pal Soros could play games with Brazil’s PDVsA state oil company. So, ok, it was another part part and parcel.

This is, after, financial war.
War in a financialized world.
Why blow up the assets?

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Great observation. I am curious where Sessions and Pence fit in the scenario. Are they placeholders, or are they part of the “left hand doing things while people are paying attention to the bright shiny things in the right hand”.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

With Sessions, what you see is what you get. He belongs in a retirement community with a snazzy Scooter to ride around in.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

The Bush family is of Connecticut and New Jersey origin. The Clinton connection to power comes from the Rockefellers in New York.

The Dixie mafia are subcontractors for Yankee power.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Issac
7 years ago

Yes, ever since Lucky Luciano moved to Hot Springs, AR in 1943.

Bush and Mexico’s Salinas hit it off as partners in the oil patch in the 70s.

The spook saw the power of the drug trade. Today’s Cartels are an extension of the oil/banking Great Game, and goes back as far.

Wish I could trim some of that up a bit, sorry about the sloppy 4am posting, folks. I so overdo this.

DFCtomm
Member
7 years ago

Yep, we were real upstanding human beings, paying the Saudis for their oil instead of just taking it. How could something evil come of such good intentions?

bilejones
Member
7 years ago

Don’t you know nothing?

It was the Russians.

GenEarly
Member
7 years ago

I started listening to InfoWars last year, now too much makes sense. Scary sense it’s not for those that want to cling to their illusions. The social veneer gets very thin, cya.

Deserttrek
Deserttrek
7 years ago

how could any sane person have believed a word of the obama biography. he was clearly shady from the start
now because of self hating white people and a corrupt press and federal government, the Republic is much worse shape than it was

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Deserttrek
7 years ago

The real damage was done by Bush the lesser. it was he who passed the Patriot Act, created the Department of Homeland Security, The TSA, Militarized the civilian police, removed the protection of bankruptcy from Student Loans, made ordinary checking and savings accounts the last debts to be paid in a re-organization: way behind the derivative obligations of the Investment Banks, pissed away at least $6 trillions in subsidies to the financial sector and started (at least 3) wars that are costing trillions. If Barry the Kenyan can see bigger fuck-ups it’s because he’s standing on the shoulders of a… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  bilejones
7 years ago

But his war inflation made oil prices and those sweet mortgages rise, and rise, and rise… until Pappy pulled off the capstone of his career. 30 years to set up those tranches, and one day, September 17, 2008 to pull the ABX trigger.

43 Trillion dollars… disappeared.
Even got a nice pump-n-dump on the oil, too!

Member
7 years ago

In the end, we are all dead. Do what you can. Live the life you want to live. Avoid creeps. Especially the ones in high places.

Dutch
Dutch
7 years ago

I wonder if 9/11 was a group of Saudis gone rogue, blowing the cover of what they had been workings towards in the long run, all along. Or was it a natural progression from earlier incidents?

Member
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

Dutch, I think that it was one faction* within what I call the “movement” jumping the gun. The second Intifada was perceived as enormously successful. Hezb’allah had kicked the Israelis out of Lebanon, and the Pakistanis had set off a few A-bombs a couple of years earlier (the A.Q. Khan network seemed to have the support of insiders from Mauretania to Malaysia). There was open source data of good provenance (I have started to save that sort of thing in last six months or so… I never did in those days) showing the the amount of “zakat” (charity) going to… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  el_baboso
7 years ago

I think your key statement is that “Sunni organizations are not hierarchical”. So different factions are doing different things, which is why you see counterproductive (for them) movements and events. But it also makes it almost impossible to either organize them or cut off the head of the snake (see Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan).

The Saudis are giving it a try, now. It will be interesting to see how effective they are at it. I assume they are getting help from Israel behind the scenes. As for help from the U.S., who knows?

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

Bush needed his own “Pearl Harbor” as an excuse for invading Iraq! His Saudi buddies providing the executing crew of fundamentalist Wahhabis to fly the planes and Larry Sliverstein leased the “Potemkin” target in the form of the failing business venture known as the WTC, which he immediately insured against destruction by terrorism, for billions of dollars! (The WTC couldn’t have been lawfully and inexpensively demolished or re-habbed since it was full of asbestos.) In a masterful piece of kabuki theatre, the planes crashed into the WTC Twin Towers, previously rigged for implosion. Miraculously, the Twin Towers became the “first”… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Old Codger
7 years ago

Odd how Marvin was the buildings’ manager, the pilots trained in Jeb’s Florida, and Dubya’s first act was to shut down data mining and 23 ongoing prosecutions of that network.

Kudos to el Baboso, for watching what the other side was doing. We do indeed now play by their rules.

Member
7 years ago

Angelo Codevilla has written on this before.

El+Eff
El+Eff
Reply to  el_baboso
7 years ago

El_B: Give me a clue as to which AC writing your referring to, please.

Member
Reply to  El+Eff
7 years ago

Sorry. This article by Codevilla starts out as a book review but morphs into his musings about some of his experiences with the intel community and how Obama might have fit in with some of their operations.

Member
7 years ago

It is becoming more and more obvious, the more I have read and heard over the past couple years, that American culture, including political culture, has been controlled and influenced in a way that is more top-down and planned than is commonly believed. The whole history from 1950 to the present has to be re-written if we want to know the full story.

Matt
Matt
7 years ago

Where this breaks down is if you look at the totality of Obama’s actions they favor the Shia over the Sunnis.

What hypothesis explains that?

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Matt
7 years ago

Good point. Still, you can make an inbred Arab rich and ambitious but you can’t make him smart. And Persians are not Arabs, better at the long game. CIA is also very involved in placing and moving pieces, and facilitating others that do. Their fingerprints are all over the Dunhams. We are raised to believe CIA is right wing but in fact they are the of the same minds as State.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  james+wilson
7 years ago

Even wierder, both the embassy takeover and susequent placement of a British/Indian agent, Khomeini, were engineered by the head of the CIA- Pappy Bush- as revenge for Carter’s firing 800 Agency cowboys.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Oh, and the Agency is a subset of State, not Defense.

That’s why Hill had global immunity and a free hand- her Foundation is a front serving in the same fashion as Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, etc.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Matt
7 years ago

It is a real puzzle, as one can identify both Persian Shia and Saudi Sunni threads through many of the people and events of the last fifty years. For example, Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and seemed to steer the Iran deal that vexes both the U.S. and the Saudis. Yet the Saudis, through Jarrett’s relatives and network, greased the way for Obama to rise through the system. At the end of the day, the Shia and Sunni probably hate each other with more passion than they hate Israel or the U.S. I sense that the Saudi Sunnis are… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

More- Iraq’s Finance Minister, Aiun(?) funded Obama’s Illinois campaign, Rezko, a Syrian, sold him his property.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Totally agree with turning the screws.
The fog of war is shifting opportunities.

Georgiaboy61
Georgiaboy61
Reply to  Matt
7 years ago

Matt, that’s a very good question, one I have pondered as well… For what they’re worth, here are the possible explanations I’ve developed. I have satisfied myself from the evidence available that Obama is a Muslim, and de facto (if not actually de jure) a member of the most-influential pan-Islamic organization on earth, the Muslim Brotherhood. I won’t debate the pros/cons of my conclusion; I merely state it as one of the premises of my arguments. We know that the Sunni and Shi’ite sects of Islam have been quarreling with one another for centuries, and that their favorite thing to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Georgiaboy61
7 years ago

Very, very well done.
Shias and Sunnis work together frequently; their families intermarry frequently as well.

An Iraqi soldier said he couldn’t understand the American insistence on the split, as families, such as his own, (a Shia wife), married across the Iran border and were constantly crossing for visits.

The Brotherhood. Their Project 2020.
We had forgotten about them after Egypt. And Obama’s narcissism.
Excellent.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Which leads to another difficult conclusion. If Saudi Arabia manages to reconstitute itself as a somewhat milder and more forward thinking version of itself, and gets back on its feet again, what is to stop them from co-ordinating with Iran to start putting the screws to the West again?

SkepticalCynical
SkepticalCynical
7 years ago

I’m not sure the “how” is all that hard – it’s plainly a numbers game, where you hope that a few of the ones you fund wind up coming to prominence a few decades hence. If you are in the prince’s position back in the 80s, you likely know professors at a couple dozen top universities who are already in your debt or in ideological agreement. You ask each for the most promising students they’ve seen in the last couple years. You meet the kids and decide if you want to place a bet on each one. It seems pretty… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SkepticalCynical
7 years ago

One conservative looked into it!
Beginning with Pappy Bush, the Saudis now own up to a third of university chairs.
Bush and Adnan Khashoggi ran the notorious BCCI until he bought the Presidency.

Mellon-Scaife’s Creationists were doing business with Turkey’s armsdealer Fellah Gul in New Jersey, while Oral Roberts was running phone card scams in Nigeria (as was done by the Black Caucus in the Carribean and Carlos Saleem/Slim- in Mexico. This is the same kind of crap actor G. Clooney pulled as he got control of Juba coffee with his ‘Save Darfur’ campaign.)

Alex
Alex
7 years ago
David Wright
Member
7 years ago

Can we just stick to the Russians for now.

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
7 years ago

I could go on and on about the Dunham/0bama family connections to US intelligence agencies, but rather than put on my tinfoil hat, I’ll just quote Angelo Codevilla: “Consistent with the Barack Obama we know, however, are his real family, his real upbringing, and his real choices of profession and associates. His mother’s parents, who raised him, seem to have been cogs in the U.S. government’s well-heeled, well-connected machine for influencing the world, whether openly (“gray influence”) or covertly (“black operations”). His mother spent her life and marriages, and birthed her children, working in that machine. For paradigms of young… Read more »

The Annoyed Man
7 years ago

This is the Manchurian Candidate narrative, and it’s the only one that makes sense to me, given Obama’s nearly total lack of record and credentials at the time of his campaign. Hell, we still don’t know his GPA, nor do we have an admission from him, even in the face of multiple contemporaneous witnesses who knew him at the time, that he was enrolled at Occidental as a foreign student.

Ursula
Ursula
7 years ago

I’ve been reading this 150-year-old account of a white Brit in Africa, describing the different tribes and the ways of Africans. Can’t believe how it resonates with the society we see around us. Our leaders seem to be on the path of decriminalizing criminal behavior as way to appease the savages among us. This will hasten our turning 3rd world. “The history of the negro has proved the correctness of this theory. In no instance has he evinced other than a retrogression, when once freed from restraint. Like a horse without harness, he runs wild, but, if harnessed, no animal… Read more »

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  Ursula
7 years ago

Oops, I meant to post this on tomorrow’s post, “Peaceful Separation” (Nov 13). Sorry about that!

Byzantine_General
Byzantine_General
7 years ago

TL;DR There surely is an awful lot of coordination going on. I’d love to explain why I believe that, but I cannot. Let me demonstrate:

“The eigenvectors of the inverse of the covariance matrix agree with you.”

I’m a math snob. I don’t think it’s possible to have a conversation about statistical inference with anyone who can’t parse the above.

Why? What\'s the point?
Why? What\'s the point?
7 years ago

So what, you were wrong.
It does nothing to change
the reality, that the Constitutional Republic
of America is overthrown and ruled by
a communist dictatorship.
The rule of law and equality of justice
is long dead, and was so long before
the arrival of the illegal alien muslim
bathhouse barry.
You and yours are slaves.
But you were wrong.
Yeah focus on that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Why? What\'s the point?
7 years ago

Here’s a nice swift kick in the ass from all of us, you infowars tosser.

Alan+Potkin
Alan+Potkin
7 years ago

Clearly, Mr. Z., Mossad and/or Black Cube has somehow just gotten you by shorthairs.

akajhon
akajhon
Reply to  Alan+Potkin
7 years ago

every jew i know loves obama,my understanding the rulers of saudi are blood kin,,and are in lockstep with each other,,

Member
Reply to  akajhon
7 years ago

akajhon: You know the wrong Jews. Trust me on that one.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bill+Robbins
7 years ago

Big Jew vs Small Jew.
The American ones were furious when the ones from the Pale got all uppity and independent, after all that funding and promotion. So we got the Cold War.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Remember, FDR and (the unmentionable’s) terrible vision was Oceania (FDR), Eurasia (Stalin), and Eastasia (Mao).

Orwell wasn’t kidding. He died not long after writing 1984.

Peter Klein
Peter Klein
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

Thank you. To add perspective on Orwell, 1984 was originally titled 1949 and his name (before becoming a journalist and wartime propagandist) was originally Eric Blaire.