Day Walkers

In the novel I Am Legend. the hero finds himself as the lone survivor of a pandemic that turns people into a form of zombie-vampire. The infected get a fever, appear to die, but then come back to life turned into a blood thirsty monster. The book is credited with starting the genre that remains a popular concept for movies and TV series. The book is a little more realistic, in that the monsters are not un-dead. They are merely infected with some sort of virus.

Unlike most Hollywood versions, the book sets up an interesting set of conditions that makes the hero’s story plausible. Again, the infected are not rotting corpses running around randomly looking for brains. Instead, the infected have a degree of awareness and sentience. They coordinate their efforts, plan ahead and seem to understand what is happening to them. They are also strictly limited to nighttime activity. That means they come out well past sunset and retreat before dawn.

This sets up the bulk of the book. The hero has about fourteen hours per day to operate without fearing the vampires. The story is set in Los Angeles, so weather is not an element of the story. He uses his time to make his home impenetrable, scavenge for supplies and research the cause of the pandemic. Because he has nothing but time, he eventually figures out that some sort of a virus has infected everyone and he uses this information to get better at killing the vampires as they sleep .

The book is worth reading, even if you have seen all of the zombie shows. The purpose here though is the math of the situation. The surviving humans in such a situation, where society is slowly being conquered by a weird rage virus, would be faced with a simple problem. They own the daylight hours and therefore must use that time to overcome their disadvantage at night, when the infected come out to hunt. Put another way, they must win more in the daytime than they lose at night.

Let us assume a scale of zero to ten. The infected have the maximum ability at night, so they are a ten for the ten hours a total darkness, because their senses are tuned for it by the virus. Humans, in contrast, usually sleep at night. We can still operate, using artificial light and other contrivances, but at best we are maybe a three. Some people will be better than others, but over all, the human effectiveness is a three. Simple math gives the vampires a 100-to-30 edge at night.

Now, things change in the daylight. The ten ours when the sun is clearly in the sky gives the humans their best advantage. It is the ultimate advantage because the vampires are in their sleep phase. The humans are at a ten in the daytime, while the vampires are a zero, so this changes the math to humans 130, vampires 100. If we take the in between hours around dusk and dawn, and give the vampires a five and the humans an eight, then the overall math is humans 132, vampires 120.

The thing is though, the humans have a period of unrestricted movement. This unlimited advantage during the day means they can reset the battlefield every day, giving themselves a little edge in the nighttime. They could vampire-proof their compounds and expand their safe area by going around and clearing the vampires out from their hiding places. This is what happens in the book. The hero gets so good at killing vampires in the daytime, that their numbers rapidly diminish.

This makes for a bad movie, so the script writers make the humans extra stupid so they never take advantage of their assets. They also make the infected super-human or able to defy the laws of physics in some way. They know the audience will side with the humans and they know people like being in the underdog role. The long running television series, The Walking Dead, has the infected magically animated, even as their flesh is long past the point of being useful.

This is the mistake outsider political movements often make. They see themselves as the humans, fighting some evil, rather than viewing themselves as the virus infected zombies looking to overthrow the natural order. What makes the Matheson book so good, is he looked at the situation from the point of view of the infected. In the book, some of the infected begin to figure out how to operate in the daytime hours. This completely changes the math.

When Richard Spencer walks onto a college campus to give a speech, he is no different from an infected zombie vampire showing up in a camp of humans, to sell the benefits of vampirism. It is no wonder they set upon him with a fury. More important, he is operating in their space, where they have an infinite advantage. It’s a fight that the infected cannot win, because they have no ability to operate in that environment. The same is true of planned public protests.

Just as the vampires in the novel carried the day by adapting to the daytime, the alt-right needs to become day walkers. If instead of a Spencer strolling on campus to get killed, imagine an alt-right guy getting an IT job at the NY Times. Imagine if Pax Dickinson was still operating as a CTO at a major media company. It is the reason the Left is obsessed with doxing people. They lie awake at night thinking about day walkers getting inside the wire.

The alt-right and affiliated groups need to forget about confrontation. Sure, some of their members and supporters are there just so they can brawl with Antifa, but an army of Chris Cantwells is an army of vampires that are useless in the daytime. There’s nothing to gain from losing by playing by their rules. The alt-right needs to go underground, in order to become day walkers, with the ability to walk among the Left in their own areas, learning how to turn their advantages into liabilities.

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Glen Filthie
Glen Filthie
Member
6 years ago

Excellent post as usual. It’s a great thought, Z. In fact, I tried it myself years ago. I understood how old school proggie/shitlibs worked – but I didn’t understand lesbians, 4th wave feminists, SJW’s, millennial snowflakes or any of the newer varieties. Couple years back, I befriended a big, fat, lunatic bull dyke at work just to see how her mind worked, in hopes that I could use that knowledge dealing with my own daughter – who had just come out of the closet as a militant lesbian SJW. Every day I would make a point of stopping to chit… Read more »

tullamore92
tullamore92
Reply to  Glen Filthie
6 years ago

“Another option might be to let them do it.”

I’ve pondered that tactic over the years. Should we maybe be voting for the Hillary’s, the Bernies, et al., in an attempt to hasten the Coming of the Lord (so to speak). Thing is, you’d have to watch everything you’ve spent your entire life building be burned to the ground. I, like you, am too old for that shit. I suspect it would take a collection of folks with nothing left to lose to want to walk through that hell, even with the promise of green pastures on the other side.

Not IT
Not IT
Reply to  tullamore92
6 years ago

“I suspect it would take a collection of folks with nothing left to lose to want to walk through that hell, even with the promise of green pastures on the other side.”

That’s why they say you can’t get people to act until not acting is more unbearable. Our standard of living has increased so much. The colonists revolted over a few small, minor taxes. Man, now we’re taxed up to our eyeballs. But we can’t stand losing what we have, so we bear it.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  tullamore92
6 years ago

There is value in an Obama, a Venezuela, or a California sanctuary state. They demonstrate that our side actually does have a point. Many don’t see the point, though, even if they are starving. Humans are odd creatures.

Not IT
Not IT
Reply to  Glen Filthie
6 years ago

Social Justice Warriors Always Double Down has some useful tactics for stopping SJW’s you encounter.

Member
Reply to  Glen Filthie
6 years ago

The internet has shown the best way: troll them. Poke them where they are vulnerable and provoke them into overreacting and self-destruction. They are naturally self-destructive, it’s on us to help speed up the process.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Glen Filthie
6 years ago

The zombies of “Walking Dead” are apt here, in that they just roll on, because that is what they do. There is no reason, no goal, they just hunt, kill, and eat. In my experience, lefties aren’t much different than that. Looking for more to it is a wasted effort. They just follow directions. As is pointed out elsewhere on this thread, they will also simply double down, that is what they do. You need to create situations where when they double down, it takes them out.

Member
6 years ago

“It’s no wonder they set upon him with a furry.”

The depth of their depravity knows no measure.

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Should the lat-right link up with the alt-furries (who dress like nazi animals)?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

They collect on Secondlife using animal avatars. It’s fun to go in there and shit talk them. yes, a “Furry Road” movie would be a real hoot. If only someone could con Mitt into putting on a furry costume, that would rock>

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

A few years was looking at colleges with my son over Easter and stayed the weekend at the Marriott connected to the old convention center in Boston. Unbeknown to us it was Comic Con weekend. JF Christ it was bizarre. These people live in these costumes. Highlight of the weekend was my son leaning over the mezzanine railing and bellowing in Shrek voice “all you fairy tale creatures get outta mah swamp”. Froze the place for a good thirty seconds.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Actually, speaking of “Furry Road” there’s this video (yes, it’s SFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Vvh9exNqs

Drake
Drake
6 years ago

You are right that we need to infiltrate their communications institutions the way the left has infiltrated and destroyed so many traditional institutions.

On the other hand, the right, alt-right, whatever, are deeply embedded in the organizations that will matter when it becomes a shooting war. The combat arms of the military, engineers in utilities, food production and transportation. All the stuff smug urbanites take for granted are supplied by us.

Member
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

They are embedded until the PTB figure they are Our Guys(1) when they refuse to slaughter or otherwise oppress normal Americans. Then they will be fired, punished to the fullest extent of the law/UCMJ, and replacements will be found to do the killing. Oppressive regimes never lack for manpower as long as the pay keeps coming and the regime looks strong.

(1) Not necessarily *-right, but merely not willing to murder regular folks.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

That’s a good point. Our side (various flavors of the right) has some key advantages if it comes to violence and everyone’s forced to pick a side. The problem is that our side is currently outside the leftist-dominated institutions whose actions are rapidly leading us into violence.

Darth Curmudgeon
Darth Curmudgeon
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

That’s why they’re trying to replace us.

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
6 years ago

Good analogy. I always think in terms of three phase insurgencies. In Phase 1 you are organising safe bases, distributing propaganda, and raising consciousness. You are also conducting small scale attacks to build experience and morale. This is the phase were you learn by doing. In Phase 2 the insurgency begins to expand its safe bases. It has gained the resources and experience to conduct larger scale operations to degrade the enemies capabilities. In Phase 3 an insurgency is moving towards decision, It has built up a force capable to meeting and defeating the enemy in conventional battles and is… Read more »

Rod1963
Rod1963
6 years ago

Do we have 30+ years to gaslight SJW’s and convert normies? I don’t t think so. We’re maybe 2-6 years away from being labeled outright criminals and go the way of England should Kamala or someone like becomes potus. In addition we don’t have real organization or national/local support of any kind.Gun owners have the NRA, we don’t even have that for our side. We have no form of local support, etc. We lack the ability to help out those who have been harmed by SJW types. Shouldn’t we be concentrating on developing a support network at this time? I… Read more »

TomA
TomA
6 years ago

In the history of evolution, species either adapt to their environment and prevail, or eventually die off as the better adapted species succeed. In our current environment of extreme affluence and excess, parasitic species have the advantage. We are losing the math in this current environment.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
6 years ago

This is the way forward, active monkey wrenching (and spying on) the progs. Everyone can do it on their own, without forming cells or anything.

David+Wright
Member
6 years ago

I really love this analogy and it’s suggested tactics.

I still don’t believe we can stem the tide in the long term. It’s not just our enemies but the potential allies who can’t be red pilled. For sure, Boomers (I am one) are no good for this.

Still the fight must be pursued. Individualism is all well and good but when you are thrown into a prison you will pick your tribe. You have to.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
6 years ago

This is the topic of a recent Ricky Vaughn podcast (Ricky Vaughncast, episode 4) with Vendetta, who explains in detail, a battle plan for converting normies.

Epaminondas
Member
6 years ago

You’ve described me perfectly, Zman. I’m a daywalker. I move among them unrecognized. I poison their intellectual food supply and they don’t even know it.

Not IT
Not IT
6 years ago

“imagine an alt-right guy getting an IT job at the NYTimes”

Any tips for what such a person should do? Asking for a friend.

Observer
Observer
6 years ago

It is absolutely true that we need to rack up wins on battlefields that we control. And avoid losses on battlefields that the enemy controls. However. The “We need to stop doing A and start doing B” articles miss the point. Some of us need to do A and some of us need to do B, and others of us need to do C through Z. None of us need to be lecturing anyone else about what to do or not do. Because: 1) Different demographics will respond to different aesthetics & styles. White activism for the proles is going… Read more »

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
6 years ago

I just don’t think the left is terribly afraid of infiltration any more. They own the institutions, and they have armies of the faithful who are there standing by to ferret out any of the heretics. The mechanisms are in place to expose, isolate and dispose, and they are constantly vigilant for any signs of the rebellion. Those on our side who would undertake such a mission consciously would have to be aware that they were likely to be taken down, horribly. I think this is why the vast resources were focused on the “March for our Lives”, and why… Read more »

Holiday Inn
Holiday Inn
Reply to  Primi Pilus
6 years ago

Agree with the general sentiment, but 5 years ago the numbers were 1-1.5M per month. There was a big jump from 2012 to 2013. You have to go back to 1999 to get numbers in the 500k range. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year.pdf

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
Reply to  Holiday Inn
6 years ago

OOPS … I was typing too fast this morning getting ready for a time commitment and made that mistake. Yes, I had the FBI stats in front of me but condensed several thoughts in my haste.

For those wanting a summary on NICS #s:

Mid-500Ks +some from 20 yrs back even up into 2005;

1.0M become common in 2008;

None less than 1.0M after 2009;

First 2.0M in NOV ’12;

3.3M in Dec ’15, nothing less than 1.7M/mon since then.

And those numbers don’t even include states like NV, where a state system is used.

Sorry for the error.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Holiday Inn
6 years ago

Obama may go down as the greatest firearms salesman the US has ever seen, 180 million in his 8 years.
This is also how you know that it’s a lie when they say that Americans own 300 million firearms. They’ve been using that number for like the last decade, along with the “11 million illegals,” line.
Neither are real.
There are a lot more guns and a lot more illegals than the media claim.

guest
guest
6 years ago

Any tips on lawfare Z?

I mean liberals are seeking out lawsuits, seeking out bakeries until one doesn’t want to bake a vulva shaped cake, meanwhile conservatives suffer real discrimination, and there’s nothing, where are the lawsuits?

MadMax1861
MadMax1861
6 years ago

“I Am Legend” was made into 3 movies: “The Last Man On Earth”(1964 – starred Vincent Price), “The Omega Man”(1971- starred Charlton Heston), and “I Am Legend” (2007- starred Will Smith).

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
6 years ago

‘The Omega Man’ (1971) with Charlton Heston, is so much better than ‘I Am Legend’ (2007) with Will Smith. No amount of CGI can make up for bad acting.

But to your point, there’s a global infection of stupidity around the world when it comes to leadership. And not just government. Universities and private corporations are just as bad.

I suspect when the One World Leader does show up, his brilliance will be so incredible, it will be no wonder the world population gives him full control. THAT won’t end well!

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
6 years ago

KH, have you ever been to SoCal? The earliest hippies here were from Germany; they setup some of the first health food stores in the country. They would wander up and down the coast, sleeping rough and picking fruit off trees. Thought you might want to check it out for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_hippie_movement#Nature_Boys_of_Southern_California

Teapartydoc
Member
6 years ago

Bingo.

Another thing to do is to form anodyne organizations based on some benign rather boring interest and have them operate clandestinely. Masonic lodges had a great deal to do with the success of both the American and French revolutions. They were non-political, but helped in familiarizing future revolutionaries with each other.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Teapartydoc
6 years ago

I fully agree with this and it’s something I’ve tried promoting.

james+wilson
james+wilson
6 years ago

Don’t think so. The Prog is following his nature, the man of the Right would be violating his. Scissors Paper Rock. The paper is cellophane, suffocating everything. I don’t know how to become a scissor but we’ll not paper this over. Having spies in high levels of Progdom would be great but taking back corrupted institutions is always a bad plan.

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
Reply to  james+wilson
6 years ago

Yes … There’s no way I or most of the normal Americans I know could fit in without ultimately betraying ourselves or finally just giving up due to revulsion. And most of us on this side just don’t want to do that to ourselves. We’re not zealots, after all. That is one of the markers of their side … assymetrical sorting into different camps, and all that.

ChanChanRight--ActivePooter
6 years ago

but what is the end game? Your post here implies some sort of political solution once numbers are sufficient. But how can there be a political solution when this entire mass immigration/multiculturalism regime is based on increasing corporate profits, especially seeing as how congress is getting so rich off of insider trading tips from Big Business…the same Big Business that increases profits via mass immigration/multiculturalism ….given that dynamic, how can positive change occur? You might say “throw the bums out!”…but why would the new bums do anything different from the old bums?

Member
6 years ago

We can’t infiltrate institutions so long as our politics is persecuted within those institutions to the level it is now. Look at James Damore. Before this happens, the left pointing “racist” at people needs to lose its power, and I think we’re getting there slowly but surely. Another angle that could be used is the law. Set up a non-profit whose dual purpose is to litigate first amendment lawsuits against the left and pressure republican lawmakers to stand up for the first amendment rights of the alt-right. Richard Spencers would not be the ends, they would be the means to… Read more »

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
Reply to  Taco_Town
6 years ago

You infiltrate by masking up as a normie, and once you are in power, begin the process of subversion. Forget the silly White Shariah meme..we’ll win with White Taqqiya

tullamore92
tullamore92
Reply to  Dirtnapninja
6 years ago

Sure, but this won’t be a limited operation, like some sort of Dirty Dozen endeavor. Those guys knew they only had to do it for a few weeks, months, or – worst case scenario – a few years. Here we’re talking about decades of thankless service, living one’s life among those one hates, presumably even spending down time among them to keep up the charade. Most people just want to get a decent-paying job to finance what they think of as their “real” life – i.e., after hours, weekends, and holidays.

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
Reply to  tullamore92
6 years ago

So be it. What we need to create is a mindset of subversion and infiltration. The left was willing to mask up for a century and now they are in the position where they can remove the mask. If they could do it, so can we.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dirtnapninja
6 years ago

People like badass underdogs. When you do saddle up, however it plays out, saddle up like you mean it.

Member
Reply to  Dirtnapninja
6 years ago

That succeeded for the progressives because they were infiltrating liberal cucks. I don’t think infiltrating left-wing fanatics will have the same effect.

Mad Italian
Mad Italian
6 years ago

For those brave enough….

https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=143f19e1fed8943b&from=rje&rgtk=1c9a5jeh60bmt4e0

Chief Technology Officer
Clinton Foundation

Ben
Ben
6 years ago

Basically this is the TRS method. Start by building communities and offering funds to whites who birth babies. That’s where the Alt Right is at. This is a 50 year project. Street confrontation should realistically be thought of as something that might happen in the last decades of this century. Right now we are simply building White Consciousness, end of.

guest
guest
6 years ago

To quote Aurini: “Civilized society is dead. It’s not dying, it’s dead. Act like a Civilized Man, like a Roman Citizen, and the zombies will realize that you’re amongst the living.”

from his Being a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

Tim Newman
6 years ago

This is an excellent analysis, and if nothing else it’s persuaded me to read the book. I hope I’ll still enjoy it even though (I think) I now know the ending!

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Tim Newman
6 years ago

It is hard to go wrong reading anything written by Richard Matheson.

Ron
Ron
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Agreed.He was a legend himself. One of the few writers that truly understood human behavior under stress.

jimvonyork
jimvonyork
Reply to  Tim Newman
6 years ago

Join the It has been a while since I read it, guess it is time again. For those who like movies, besides the Will Smith version, two other movies were made of it. One the Omega Man, and the one closest to the book, The Last man on Earth with Vincent Price.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
6 years ago

That drug resistant AIDS they have in the Philippines can’t spread to the West fast enough for my liking.

Criticas
Criticas
6 years ago

The thing is though, the humans have a period of unrestricted movement. This unlimited advantage during the day means they can reset the battlefield every day, giving themselves a little edge in the nighttime. They could vampire-proof their compounds and expand their safe area by going around and clearing the vampires out from their hiding places.

This is essentially the scenario in The Passage by Justin Cronin. Instead of making the humans stupid, he kept the zampires intelligent.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
6 years ago

I mentioned the Ricky Vaughcast with Vendetta earlier, but didn’t have time to elaborate. Vendetta explained that the alt right was very effective when they were allied with the alt-light and the MAGA/America First crowd during the Trump campaign. Shortly after Trump’s triumph, the alt right split from those groups by pointing out their differences, frequently sneering at them as cucks for being civic nationalists compared to the alt right’s ethno-nationalist stance. Vendetta and Vaughn believe the alt right needs to mend those differences and focus on their common beliefs in order to appeal to a wider audience. Most Americans,… Read more »

Ron
Ron
6 years ago

“I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.” John 9:4

Berty
Berty
6 years ago

Charlottesville was a disaster that should never have happened. If the alt-right wants to survive it has to jettison the goons and neo-Nazis because you’re never getting anywhere otherwise.

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  Berty
6 years ago

If they had stopped after the torch march it would have been great.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Teapartydoc
6 years ago

You know how it goes, Doc. Best laid plans of mice & men. In hindsight yes, you’re right, but no one could foresee what extreme forces would be brought to bear. Lesson learned, that’s the reason everyone has gone full-on into regroup mode. We will be sitting out the inevitable riots to come when Trump starts holding mid term rallies and the Antifa won’t, leaving them to attack the eternal normie. If the sight of regular blue collar Americans being attacked for just showing up to a rally held by the sitting president doesn’t get them shut down for good,… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Berty
6 years ago

Cville would have been quite different if the police had not stood down and let antifa attack. The speakers didn’t even get a chance to speak before a state of emergency was declared and we were forced into the crowds of antifa. After Berkeley, Cville, and MSU we have established that the police are on antifa’s side, but that wasn’t clear before.

Issac
Issac
6 years ago

Whatever the method I don’t think “alt-right,” can do it. The label is irreversibly tarred with the indiscretions of naieve men and the purposeful subversion bad actors. The right all together has an optics problem that is unlikely to be resolved by current leadership. The only men doing honest to goodness pro-white work today are those like Jared Taylor who make it a point to avoid anything else remotely controversial.

Member
Reply to  Issac
6 years ago

If anything, I believe success will come in reverse. It won’t come from the alt-right being successful, but from liberals wearing out the racism accusations to the point where nobody cares anymore.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Taco_Town
6 years ago

It looks like the normies are already looking at our new little gun control Hitler Youth and starting to giggle about it, just a bit. Zuckerberg isn’t getting much sympathy either.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Taco_Town
6 years ago

>wearing out the racism accusations to the point where nobody cares anymore
It’s already happening. I’m an academic researcher in Boston, and pretty much surrounded by progressives. I have never bothered to conceal my preferences and politics (nor did I make a point of waving them in people’s faces), and increasingly even progs and GoodWhites are saying to me that they are fed up with race baiting and all that goes with it. Admittedly this is with the furtive looks over each shoulder, but still it’s, er, progress.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Issac
6 years ago

It doesn’t matter what label or name you use. The left will find some reason to tar it up. That’s not how things work.

miforest
Member
6 years ago

spencer is controlled opposition. he is the judas goat of the right. a Judas goat will lead sheep to slaughter, while its own life is spared. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat . In “heilgate” , Charlottesville, and on other occasions, he leads the faithful into the jaw of their enemies.
Yet somehow always escapes the ensuing melee unscathed . Odd , ya know .
He seems to have a penchant for organizing things where the left is in absolute complete control. Berkley, ann arbor mi, terry McAuliffe’s Virginia.

Member
Reply to  miforest
6 years ago

I have many criticisms(1) of Spencer, but this one is ludicrous. He did not organize Charlottesville or Berkeley. He did organize U Florida and Michigan. UF was harmless & ineffectual. Michigan has taught him the error of that approach. I have seen video of Spencer recovering from OC spray, as well as in the scrum. Whatever my criticisms, he has put his safety on the line and gotten hit a few times. More than 99.99% can say.

(1) Naive trust-fund baby with too much philosophy and not enough infantry under his belt. Personal hygiene so well-attended to I have doubts.

miforest
Member
Reply to  roo_ster
6 years ago

I’ll take you at your word on the rest, but ” Heilgate”. he invited the press and then started giving ” roman salutes ” from the podium . setting up a number of people there to be fired and Doxxed. It was complete spencer affair. He may not have had top billing , and he was up to his neck in it at Charlottesville. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/richard-spencer-charlottesville-protests-rallies-white-supremacists-a7995131.html I find His tear gas and scrumming almost theatrical. But then again that’s my point. He is also the goof that brings in the Nazi LARPers. Like that is helpful. you look at this and… Read more »

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  miforest
6 years ago

Spencer not only didn’t give any Roman salutes, it caused a fairly large fight internally because he was so upset by it happening. If you want to know the truth, an inebriated & pumped up Mike Enoch was the first person to do it, and another 4 ppl did it after they saw Mike. Everyone was a little lit, having a good time celebrating & goofing around. None of them knew there were any media left in the room, they had been sent out earlier, but one slipped by detection. Yet again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Everyone… Read more »

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  miforest
6 years ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about and just sound silly. If you were more “inside” you’d know that Spencer has not escaped any melees, you’d understand the piles of lawsuits he’s dealing with, day in and day out & wouldn’t repeat ludicrous 4chan talking points like a child.
There’s plenty to criticize Spencer over, (he’s arrogant and naive, being the biggest complaints), but this tired talking point you’re using is just unneeded by everyone.
Stop calling people Feds or shills, ffs. It’s embarrassing.