The Revolutionary Mind

The conventional model for framing Western politics, since the French Revolution, is the Left-Right axis. This dates from when supporters of the king sat to the right of the president in the National Assembly, while supporters of the revolution sat to the left of the president. Ever since, the Left are the radicals of one sort or another, who seek to overturn the present order in favor of something else. On the Right are the defenders of the present order, but also those who seek to restore a past order.

That means radical republicans in the 18th century, like the American Founders, would be on the Left, along side 19th century Marxists or even 21st century queer theorists. In the 18th century, Thomas Jefferson was a radical. In fact, he was a supporter of the French Revolution. It also means that modern Civic Nationalists, who claim allegiance to the Founders vision of republican order, are on the same side as 19th century monarchists and 20th century fascists. It turns out that libertarians are the real Nazis.

This also means that the game of political theory always has the Left playing offense, while the Right is playing defense. It’s why 20th century fascism never made any sense as a right-wing or left-wing movement. The fascists were just as anti-traditionalist as the communist. They were not trying to restore an old order. On the other hand, they were a reactionary movement, driven by a rejection of international communism. The fascists were both reactionaries and radicals, embracing the rhetoric and tactics of the Left.

The interwar period in Europe is a good example of the Left-Right political model not holding up in the face of reality. There were multiple social and cultural forces working on European society, in addition to the consequences of the Great War. Even in America, the first half of the 20th century saw the old Left radicalize into something that drew on European fascism, but was littered with communists. It’s why people today, who try to argue that the fascists were left-wing or right-wing, are simply missing the point.

That’s what makes the period so fascinating. A lot of history happened in a very short period of time. It’s a lot like Roman history, in that there is something for everyone and their favorite political theory. On the other hand, the period is not very useful for understanding the present age. Interwar Europe may as well be a story set on different planet. The flow of events that led up to that period and the history of the people involved, is foreign even to their descendants alive today. it was the great break in the timeline.

Now, the interwar period is useful for one particular reason and that is as an example of how history is not a river that flows uninterrupted through time. Instead, it is many rivers and sometimes those rivers find themselves occupying the same space. The Thirty Years’ War, for example, was the confluence of historical forces leading into the 17th century. Similarly, the two industrial wars of the 20th century were bookends to the great confluence of intellectual forces in Europe, dating to the Enlightenment.

This age may be another such confluence. Like the interwar period, there are many forces in conflict with one another today. You have global capitalism, which is disrupting the normal functioning of western societies. There is the collapse of the Cold War political order, that is collapsing the domestic political arrangements within nations. There’s mass migration, where hundreds of millions seek to move from the fringe of civilization into the heart of it. Of course, there are the various reactions to these forces, as well.

This piece by Victor David Hanson is a good illustration of how the conventional way of framing politics is not helpful today. Hanson is one of the remaining sober minded people on the conventional Right. He’s actually a conservative of the old sort. He’s also a good analyst who lives in the real world, rather than the Potemkin village that is the home of the commentariat. Despite that, he remains attached to the old paradigm of Left and Right, trying to jam present reality into the old model of two warring political camps.

Hansen is that sort of conservative who is excellent at describing what is rotting away the present, separating us from the past. He just cannot bring himself to accept that there is no going back. There will be no great rollback.The present conflict is not a choice between the glorious future and the status quo. That’s the old mode of thought. Today is one of those great confluences. What comes out the other end will bear little resemblance to what came before it and may not even have a strong connection to the forces that shaped it.

For example, the alt-right is not about restoring an old order. To assume that misses the fundamental point. Richard Spencer has spoken for years about how the past is what caused the current crisis. To return to 1950’s America, for example, means replaying the 1960’s and 1970’s with the same outcomes. His concept of the ethno-state, even if it is limited to North America, results in an America that is completely different than anything imagined by conventional politics. His idea is a complete departure from the liberal past.

Greg Johnson’s new book is about as radical as it gets, with regards to conventional political thinking. What he describes as white nationalism, is an overthrowing of liberal social democracy. What his version of the ethno-state means is a rejection of the foundation item of neo-liberalism, the free movement of people. It’s not a “return to tribalism” as that is a past that never existed in the age of the nation state. It is a new nation state that accepts the fundamental biological reality of man.

The Dissident Right world view that is slowly coming into focus, one that has grown out of the paleocon critiques of managerialism, is also a sharp break with the past. What’s the point of fetishizing the Founding period, when what they created lasted one lifetime. That form of social order simply could not hold up to modernity and was replaced by a series of increasingly radical innovations. To go back and start that process all over is to relive the same nightmare. The antidote to radicalism is not going to be its antecedents.

The revolutionary mind of the new opposition is not focused on restoring the past or even engaging in conventional politics. The use of “us versus them” rhetoric is only useful as a rallying cry. The real fight is about what comes after liberal democracy. Ours is not a fight to restore the past or even romanticize it. Ours is a fight about who will build the future, after this present is vanquished. Whatever comes out of this great confluence will not reflect the past. Instead, it will reflect the spirit and aspirations of those who build it.

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John Smith
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“Ours is not a fight to restore the past or even romanticize it. Ours is a fight about who will build the future, after this present is vanquished.”
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It won’t be much of a fight. The unemployable millennial interior designers, the grievance studies grads, the guys with the man-buns…. they couldn’t build a tree house. They’ll be lucky if they can feed themselves in the days ahead.

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It will be tougher than you think. Whatever the Left’s faults are and they are plenty. They are very organized, fanatical and led by some very ruthless and monied SOB’s. They know how how to apply intimidation and violence. Worse they have control of the police, federal law enforcement and the defense dept All of these people’s livelihoods are dependent on the status quo and they will fight to keep it. While our side cannot even organize a pot luck, We have no organization, no leadership, no principals, ideas or goals to unify under. Nothing. Trump and his MAGA is… Read more »

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Don’t be silly. The right can organize. Your problem is that the right is white and whites are not protected in their right to organize due to the various civil rights amendments which are explicitly putting whites at a legal handicap. If the right could simply gain equal protection for whites before the law, they would have no issue pressing their issues. The trouble is that no right winger with political capital to spare wants to risk it demanding that minorities lose their legal superior status, as that will put them on the wrong side of the most brutal and… Read more »

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The worst part is that if the whites in the army and police are not highly redpilled, they’ll just follow orders from non-white leaders, and then go smash and arrest their fellow whites. That’s the ultimate humiliation.

You already see that in England, with white policemen dragging away other whites who have committed the “crime” of complaining about Muslim rape and third-world violence. It’s stomach-churning stuff.

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The US is far more red pilled and much better armed than the UK. A few years ago one disgruntled ex cop shut down half of So Cal for weeks. I can’t imagine what actual kinetic action from well trained cells would be like. We are brittle far more now than in the 70’s days of rage and that was no fun. That said the problem isn’t lack of equal protection, the Left won’t obey such a law anyway as the IRS scandal has shown, The problem is simply that leave me alone is not an ideology. Its not a… Read more »

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Try your “Do As I Say Or Else” bullshit here and you’ll get a steaming helping of mind your own damn business or else (backed up with guns). LMAO at your “Christian mores.” Your Political philosophy sounds more Jewish than Christian but what it is in fact is just more statist authoritarianism. Left, right, call it whatever you want, it’s just one person telling another to comply or die and pretending to have the authority in the name of the almighty state. So just take your state and shove it and leave me the hell alone!

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Off topic:

Leftists freaking out over the judicial nomination

https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1044295425514254336

I count three browns, and I’m guessing all are subcontinentals. The left couldn’t even bother to pay a few token Black Yas Kweens to show up.

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I don’t see much evidence of a fight to change but a reaction to the left’s assaults and heel smashing. The US will by hook or crook have to be broken up into smaller nation states, the present state and where it is headed is untenable. Spencer and his ilk shouldn’t even be mentioned. For all the talk about the alt-right, the reality is that Trump is pretty much all we got, and disgruntled whites put him there. That is not to say paleos, dissidents and some alt-righter don’t contribute intellectually to the resistance. But that’s it, it is a… Read more »

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“The US will by hook or crook have to be broken up into smaller nation states, the present state and where it is headed is untenable.” This, a thousand times. But the only way out is through the future. Be like a shark, moving ever forward. The past, as beautiful as parts of it may have been, is gone, and there is no time machine. Buckley was wrong; there is no stopping the course of history. But it CAN be diverted into a new course – which is what is going to happen. A future is going to come no… Read more »

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All the gratitude and historical consciousness of the hog at the trough.

Spencer’s star is falling and he may soon exit the political stage, but without him, much of the alt/dissident right would not be.

Babe Ruthless
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Yeah, it’s a shame about Charlottesville. What an absolute shitshow.

I’m not sure Spenser was much of an intellectual heavyweight, but he had the underappreciated virtue of … just kind of looking and talking normal. Normies looked at him and, despite the media’s wailing, the back of their mind thought “oh, he doesn’t look so bad.”

Just the kind of guy who should NOT get associated with people wearing absurd, antediluvian Halloween-Nazi costumes.

A.B. Prosper
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No sensible person associates with costume Nazis and Hitlarpers no matter how charismatic and helpful a few of them are, Almost all of them lack even rudimentary discipline media savvy or grasp of optics and they won’t keep agreement More importantly they are creatures of the Left , nothing based of Democratic Workers Socialism even if there is a National in there is Right Wing , period Allowing those fools to latch on even if Spencer coined the term .Alt Right was and is stupid. The .Alt Right might be Restore pre 68 BAMN or it might be Sons of… Read more »

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Agreed, we’re more of a resistance than a revolution. The alt-right has no real platform of ideas or what it wants to do. Get beyond HBD and it’s silent. It has nothing to offer the average white guy on the street and it needs to find a way to make itself relevant to these folks. And yes Trump is all we have and he was put there by pissed off blue collar and lower middle-class whites. Not by the alt-right who didn’t even get why the guy was running. I remember Sailer and his cronies. They didn’t get him at… Read more »

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What a lot of people don’t realize is that Trump also won college-educated Whites. Trump isn’t just the candidate of working class Whites. He’s the candidate of Whites in general.

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Very good post.

The bad part about the realisation of this is that it’s probably gonna involve a whole lot of blood being spilled.

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I see it as you do. To go a few steps out, once again, its the dirt people who will end up effecting positive change. There still is no one else that can effect that. That, and most of us, the one thing we have to remember as things get more and more violent is if you ignore certain historical aspects of violent power blocks you end up taking the dirt nap. I think many of us will be too busy surviving what happens to have the energy our resources to pay much attention to the larger scope of history… Read more »

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A feminized society, and America is the most feminized in history, is inherently both very leftist and extremely unstable. Women like invaders, want to “have it all” at the expense of everyone else, and can’t say no to panhandlers or drama queens.All of which leads to collapse..Consequently, it seems likely that the great reset will have to incorporate strong patriarchy, which neither current party can imagine….So when the smoke clears, that part of the future will resemble the past.

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To summarize, men will have to start being men again for ordered civilization to prevail. Could not agree more. Extreme feminization is likely the most suicidal element of modern America. From that specific toxin seems to spring most or all of the others.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

‘So when the smoke clears, that part of the future will resemble the past.’

“History doesn’t always exactly repeat itself, but it does always rhyme.” -Mark Twain

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Or as Marx puts it, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce?

Dutch
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Dutch

Women are great at ignoring the truths they don’t wish to confront. That’s what happens when their role is to nurture, while the men‘s role is to provide. Providers are familiar with the risks and difficulties involved.

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You know, we can always call a constitutional convention. Try a new articles of confederation.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Amending the constitution even with the Article V method still requires 3/4ths of the states. Allowing greater decentralization, such as allowing red states to control immigration and become Hungary/Russia style “illiberal democracy”, would be clashing with the dominant establishment morality that would fret about “Nazi Nukes”.

Look at the flak that Brexit has taken, that’s mild compared to what is needed. Also worth mentioning that there never would have been a Brexit if the Cameron and May had simply shut down non-EU immigration which they always held the power to do without consulting Brussels.

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But Third World immigration is a fundamental element of the globalist program.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

It’s free market fundamentalism. Wreck the economy and migrants don’t come.

james wilson
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james wilson

That path closed when states became servile to the Feds, and dependent on them.

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That happened in Philadelphia during the summer of 1787 and during the ratifying conventions.

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Sam J.

We don’t need a new Constitution. The one we have is just fine. What we do need is some politicians that will work what we have in our favor. We could totally change the power structure in the country in a few months. If the Republicans were willing we could take control of the out of control Judiciary. It only takes a majority in Congress to do so. The Judges may decide case law but Congress decides what cases the Judges can rule on in the first place. Don’t want Judges to decide any laws that have to do with… Read more »

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There is plenty of history and reflection to suggest reexamining the assertion that “Interwar Europe may as well be a story set on different planet.” In Europe generally and Germany especially, the interwar period was seen as a broad efflorescence of cultural marxism that had many familiar features. the article at: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/24/sexual-decadence-weimar-germany/ describes decadence that was somewhat different in form but familiar in outline to the poz degenerate cultural arc playing out here and now. why? Dr. Kevin McDonald (Culture of Critique) offers plenty to suggest the similarity and even continuity between earlier bolshevism, which again was widely seen as… Read more »

Tykebomb
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Itsmore accurate to call fascism progressive rather than left wing. That’s the shortest way to put it.

Lugh
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Fascism is the guidance and/or control (not ownership) of the large industries of the private sector by the public for the good of the Nation State. Beyond that, it endorses an honoring of the traditions and history of the Nation is vehemently against all that would disparage them. No wonder America hated Fascism so much. You see what have the opposite: control of the public sector by the private, or Plutocratic Totalitarianism. Fascism is a thing. It’s not a malleable term to be used for Leftists or Totalitarians or anyone one doesn’t like. But yes, it certainly believes in a… Read more »

Sam J.
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If you want to see Fascism taken to perfection…Japan. Totally Fascist. They saw what Germany did and how fast they improved their lot under Fascism and copied the whole thing minus attacking the Jews. They were smart enough not to let any in the country though.

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Trump has risen to power at a crucial time in the emergent system’s lifecycle; when it is malleable. With any luck, he will be able to leave a lasting imprint on the structures of governance. Big countries and big companies are both going to be partitioned into more manageable units. And that I think is the defining characteristic of the new system — it will be responsive to the voters. Sounds crazy, but you have to admit that outcome satisfies the thesis that what comes next is different than what we have now.

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My understanding is that Thomas Jefferson was not a supporter of the French Revolution. He observed it and considered ours to be quite different. The American revolution was based heavily upon classical approaches to politics and life. It was built upon the concept of Natural Law. Jefferson felt the French Revolution to be anarchic possessing no foundation. The problem in America is a failed ability to rest any case upon the Metaphysics of the founders. The system no longer teaches nor makes any attempt to explain itself. It wallows now in nothing more then emotion. Our educational system needs to… Read more »

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Most colonial Americans didn’t support the Revolution, otherwise the war would have been far shorter. The Continental Army had continuing problems with retention. In a sense, the revolution was started by a gang of rich merchants that had their racket undercut by the Tea Act of 1773. Often the same merchants were angry at the Quebec Act removing western lands from speculative purchase. I think a better comparison to our present situation is the Shah’s Iran. It’s a story of how an autocrat attempted to force liberalism onto a country that didn’t want it. Khomeini was a sort of Dissident… Read more »

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https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jeffworld.html

Jefferson supported the revolution.

Lugh
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Lugh

Jefferson wrote a lot of things at different times. The earlier Jefferson had an infatuation with the coming Revolution since he didn’t like traditional Aristocracy. The reality of the Terror cured him of his romanticism. The later Jefferson took a very dim view of what had happened and what happened to Whites in French Santa Domingo (Haiti) and along with others, took measures to keep Illuminism out of American Masonry. The Revolution had used Masonry as a vehicle of organization.

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Re: “That means radical republicans in the 18th century, like the American Founders, would be on the Left, along side 19th century Marxists or even 21st century queer theorists. In the 18th century, Thomas Jefferson was a radical. In fact, he was a supporter of the French Revolution. It also means that modern Civic Nationalists, who claim allegiance to the Founders vision of republican order, are on the same side as 19th century monarchists and 20th century fascists. It turns out that libertarians are the real Nazis.” That’s one way of interpreting it, but not the only way. A useful… Read more »

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This is historicist bullshit based on abstracting political relationships to a graph and then coming to conclusions and making predictions based on a faulty model.

It isn’t even conservative. Edmund Burke and Samuel Johnson would laugh you out of the rooom.

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Some of this is helpful, Georgiaboy, tho D’Sousa can take a hike. “ZMan, I know you aren’t a fan of libertarianism, but isn’t equating it with national socialism going too far? Those who wish to overturn the existing status quo are necessarily political-ideological allies – they may seek to do the same thing for very different reasons….” Yeah, they’re political-ideological allies, for very different reasons, i.e. allies of expediency, not Principle. When Zman puts Libts with Nazis, he’s emphasizing the expediency aspect of all this, and thus obscuring the Principle aspects. To start a historical analysis of the conventional model… Read more »

Jaqship
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Jaqship

At least some versions of Libt-ism place some value on the Nation, whereas none place any value upon Class.

Lugh
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Lugh

Fascism utterly rejects both Libertarianism and Communism. You have it exactly opposite: Communism and Capitalism are both philosophies of matter, both globalist in their mature form – and thus both against the Nation State. As you may not know, love of the Nation State is the essence of Fascism. And race is the essence of National Socialism. Thus it is no accident that the two economic Philosophies allied against Fascism and National Socialism last time. The will again too if America and the White race make a bid for survival. Of the two, Capitalism is senior. Who do you think… Read more »

bruno pezzey
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bruno pezzey

On top this, Hitler said over and over “We are socialists”.

james wilson
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james wilson

The man never spoke to me, but I suspect when saying “we are all socialist” he meant that they were all bound into an Aryan social contract by nature. Whereas, here we are, communist by nurture, under the banner of liberty and justice for all. Words, like facts, are not truths, they speak for competing truths.

Lugh
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Lugh

Bravo. Getting warm.

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Lester Fewer

1. Generally speaking, white people (by which I mean European-descended Christian people) find it very difficult to thrive and reproduce in societies which are not either completely white or else overwhelmingly majority white. 2. Whites tend to have nice stuff: they are inventive, ingenious and industrious, their folkways adduce towards social stability, their manners are pleasant, their religion has a healthy outlook, and they tend to live in the temperate, forested, farm-able, environmentally non-degraded regions of the world. 3. Whites, on top of creating all the best science and technology, also have, by far and away, the best art, music,… Read more »

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Fantastically stated and summarized. *hat tip*

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Upvote!

Try to distill your post into a succinct meme.

* Whites create the societies that non-whites want to live in but degrade.
* Access of non-whites to white societies is not a human right.

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You should send this to John Derbyshire, who thinks that Black/Non-Black is the fundamental division.

Dutch
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Dutch

To put it more succinctly, whites are good at taking the long view, patiently building and saving for the future, and for the benefit of their children’s children. Others take the short view, the “grab what I can, while I can”. Whites have difficulty taking the long view, when everyone else around them is grabbing what they can, and skimming everything off the top. That is why whites need to live in a white dominated culture. Anything else will defeat the whites in working for the long run, because of all the non-white stealing along the way.

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3g4me

Well said, Sir!

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Lester, whites created the white space between paragraphs. Please utilize the concept going forward.

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Scrumptious description, Lester Fewer.

Lugh
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Lugh

Exactly so. Even Fascism with its adoration of the Nation State is sufficient to protect us now, especially as they are already here. Only National Socialism which insists that Race is the essence of the Nation (google the etymology of Nation as opposed to country) will suffice now. And no, it does not ban private property or enterprise. It only insists that men of genius or fortune play ball with Nation for the good of all. If not, well they can leave or at least step aside and someone else will be found. Private property is sacred. But there are… Read more »

Lugh
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Lugh

Meant to say “insufficient now”

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Derek Black’s bio-piece by (((Eli Saslow))) “Rising out of Hatred” review was on NPR’s Fresh Air yesterday. I listened to the whole thing and somehow heroically managed to not vomit. If you don’t already know how the cucks, jews, race-traitors and SJW’s view White Nationalism and the Alt Right it was on prime display. I wanted to tear my car stereo out of the dash and stomp it to powder. There is going to have to be a whole lot of blood spilled going forward unfortunately. We are dealing with true-believers who are absolutely convinced they are “On the Right… Read more »

james wilson
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james wilson

The “right side of history” meme cracks me up. My response is that Alaric was on the right side of history, Socrates on the wrong side, what’s your point?

Lugh
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Lugh

Yup the kid has spat in his father’s face for fame and Leftist glory. He is shit. And the many contributions to Stormfront helped him get his Leftist education. The gods weep at the folly of it all.

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You’re missing an important biological reality in the modern technological age. Affluence is making us soft as a species and mass media indoctrination is turning these softies (both mental & physical) into hive-minded and dependent drones. Political beliefs will just become whatever convenient meme the autocracy wishes to program at any particular time. Independent thinkers are destined for the re-education camps in this new world order. But fear not, there is an effective remedy.

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Yeah, the overflowing material culture is the one element that makes historical analogies difficult.

I know a lot of guys who know that the current situation is a disgrace, but either (a) they’re too soft, fat, citified, and socially atomized to do any physical organizing or (b) they really don’t want to lose their video games, formulaic TV serials, retro pop culture detritus collection, etc.

It’s a problem.

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>>…people today, who try to argue that the fascists were left-wing or right-wing, are simply missing the point. Sincere, un-ironic labeling of the NSDP as right or left wing lies in ignorance or convenience. >>The use of “us versus them” rhetoric is only useful as a rallying cry. It is also necessary for survival of a euro-western nation, especially here in N America. Before we “fight about who will build the future” we need to survive the coming destruction of the present. Determined individualists unwilling to band together, will be drowned. >>Ours is a fight about who will build the… Read more »

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Senhorbotero

To: georgiaboy

“Those who wish to overturn the existing status quo are necessarily political-ideological allies…”

Nailed it. Would also like to add a voice of support to your contiuum analysis of right to left. Personally I think you got that one correct as well. It allows for a better philosophical approach. Your depiction states with precision my point about the fundamental dilemma being between freedom versus obligations and individual versus community. We need to fully grasp the founding assessment of that to understand how best to proceed before we throw the baby out with the bath water.

Lugh
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Lugh

Yes, but that does not make the Muslims leftists. That the Left has forgotten that will be their undoing. Or perhaps they think they will corrupt their youth. Maybe, but my bet is on the Muslims coming out on top if we fail to stop their alliance.

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We are past the point where the states could get more done cheaper by refusing all federal funds.

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This is basically how the various Egyptian dynasties came to ruin. The minor rulers up and down the Nile found that Memphis, or whatever capital was current, was simply sucking away resources with little or no return. At that point, even a shot at immortality wasn’t enough to keep them in line.

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“It’s why people today, who try to argue that the fascists were left-wing or right-wing, are simply missing the point.” Regardless if fascists can be pigeon holed into the right or left boxes, fascism/fascists – as a political ideology – and as an economic ideology, believe(d) that individual rights must be subordinate to the dictates of the state and abhor capitalism. These two beliefs go hand in hand; you cannot have economic freedom without individual freedom. Mussolini , the founder of Fascism said it best; ” All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.” Recall that… Read more »

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Yet, when discussing fascism – a murderous, totalitarian, repressive ideology that believes capitalism is anathema… See, I’ve had leftists tell me with a straight face that Fascism is extreme, out-of-control capitalism. They don’t even understand the terms they are using well enough for me to be able to communicate with them. The guy I’m thinking of reacted with the typical fingers-in-the-ears when I tried to correct him on his definition. It’s hard to explain to people that Obamacare is one of the purest examples of practical Fascism implemented in the modern age when their understanding of Fascism is simply “stuff… Read more »

Lugh
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Lugh

The Evil Elite won’t be defeated until their Corporate Capitalism is crushed. You think that such late stage Capitalism is pro-Life? Pro-America? Pro-Individual – except for the very, very few? C’mon. Early and mid level Capitalism went well with the American Way, but late stage Capitalism is a horse of a different color. And the Bankers, in advance of the rest of Capitalism, did finance the Communist Revolution. But the Corporations have caught up to them now and are for open borders and against the Nation State, Western Civilization, and the White Race.

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I picture being a great grandfather one day and taking the great grandkid to the new capital. There’s a statue of Zman. She walks up to get a closer look at the plaque, and starts to read aloud: “The real fight is about what comes after liberal democracy. Ours is not a fight to restore the past or even romanticize it. Ours is a fight about who will build the future, after this present is vanquished. Whatever comes out of this great confluence will not reflect the past. Instead, it will reflect the spirit and aspirations of those who build… Read more »

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“It’s my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another.” — Malcolm Reynolds

P.S. You’re putting Zman into the grave pretty darn quick, too! 😉

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I feel that is the year they will come for him.

james wilson
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james wilson

Nah. January 21, 2025.

BTI
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BTI

The only labels I accept are “Christian”, “American”, and my family name.

The only ideology I accept is loyalty to God, family and nation.

If that makes me a “conservative” in your eyes, I don’t care.

Church, family and nation may be rooted in the past, but they are real and worthy of loyalty.

The same can’t be said for whatever philo-semitic neo-fascist castle in the sky you hope to concoct.

JohnTyler
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JohnTyler

“The only ideology I accept is loyalty to God, family and nation.”

Maybe you want to substitute “the US Constitution,” in lieu of “nation”.

A constitution means zero if its political leaders ignore it.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

If you say “A constitution means zero if its political leaders ignore it” then why do you endorse the Constitution?

It’s the people, you coward, not the parchment.

The people, the WHITE people, must supersede any foolish legalisms.

Lugh
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Lugh

The Jews are against all Fascisms except their own. Likud is classic Fascism as Pat Buchanan said. Or since their ethnicity is everything to them, a national socialism.

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The more the French revolution gets studied the harder it is for people to apply current political categories to it. Many of the ideas of the left of that day are considered to be right wing today, and even the Marxists say that the winners in the revolution were not what they would consider the natural left (proletarian sanscullotes), but the bourgeoisie, who they consider an early form of liberalism. These difficulties leave us with a remainder in which all we have is a left that is for “change”, and a right that is not. And even Burke would disagree… Read more »

Lugh
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Lugh

Follow the money. Who funded and directed it? Peasants get nowhere on their own. Apparently, it was directed by minor French Aristocrats who wanted a Capitalist system like that of England. And some English money flowed in too. But before that could be built, the Traditional Monarchy and medieval economic system had to be destroyed. Ditto the religion of the people.

Babe Ruthless
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Babe Ruthless

Angry take just based on the Supreme Court thing: the current political divide is between the sociopaths and non-sociopaths. Part of the problem is the right’s pathetic lack of organization. The left might be a bunch of evil, pozzed-out, hate-marinated freaks, but they do things. They infest the institutions, ruthlessly thought-police the public sphere, and arrange thuggish protests and paramilitary attacks. There was a good article in the now-shuttered Thermidor magazine by Jake Bowyer about the right’s pathetic lack of organization. And it’s true. It’s a big problem. In fact, the establishment left functions a LOT like the Communist Chinese… Read more »

james wilson
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james wilson

Democratic government supports sociopaths, restrains normies. A partially red pilled democratically elected politician cannot speak truthfully without alienating a very large number of people who are in urgent need of schooling; no one who does is elected in the first place. This truck turns left. To turn right you must make three left turns, and then you are still left a block behind where you started. This is not a mystery. Democratic government inevitably becomes socialist. The mystery is that the country lasted as long as it did.

Lugh
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Lugh

And the Left is funded by the Capitalists or “Right”, right? Left and Right are nonsense now. Who stands for America as a sovereign state? And who is against the Nation State in general or America in particular? Those are the proper questions.

No one made the Corporations outsource our industrial base to get that coolie slave labor. Or to bring in colored coolie labor right in to America to replace us. Global Capitalism is the enemy, along with its ally, the Left. The Elite want us a system of Communism for us and Capitalism for themselves.

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I’d like to add that the reactionary philosophy (as in royalist, NRx, etc.) is not about rollbacks either. To the contrary, a great deal of the literature is a synthesis with modern structures: corporate governance, hard fiat currency, crypto-locked transferable rights, biometric-controlled census and borders, virtualization and other unusual solutions for the underclass. It’s about acknowledging the reality of rulers, hierarchy and incentives, AS WELL AS the reality of race, sex, IQ, and other demographic factors. Or, to put it another way, reimagining modern technology and state apparatus used to uphold the natural order instead of overturning it. I am… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

“The real fight is about what comes after liberal democracy. Ours is not a fight to restore the past or even romanticize it.” I currently dont have a clue what I think should come after liberal democracy. I believe women are not healthy for politics, I believe ethnically and religiously homogenous societies are more stable and peaceful, I am not personally too much into religion but I believe it sustains the culture, gives meaning to many and helps keep out worse ideas such as ideologies (which are largely substitute religions anyway, and except for islam which is really bad, tend… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Roll it back to empower those who work diligently for the good of all, over the long run. White male landowners. Everyone else, by and large, is in it for the short run. The leftist game is really about organizing and recruiting short run thinkers to scoop as much as they can, as quickly as possible.

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Democracy is simply the terminal state of factionalism, of which all forms of representative government – including the capitalist/militarist republic – are a subset. Eventually, they all degenerate into universal suffrage, because there is always a faction who can benefit from expanding the franchise. Delegation of power is fine. But can you recall any situation in your life when ownership of a resource or decision was shared among multiple individuals or groups, and there wasn’t squabbling and infighting over control? And is there not always that one guy who says “let’s see what X thinks”, where X is someone who… Read more »

Din C. Nuffin
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Din C. Nuffin

Perhaps we should be skeptical of the past. Was J. Edgar Hoover less corrupt than Brennan? Or were we just too preoccupied with our jobs and responsibilities to notice the corruption of our rulers?

Roman Dmowski
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Interesting as always. Conservatives in America today thus find themselves in a position more like that of Frenchmen of a rightward bent in the late 19th Century. The French right was disunified and consisted of groups leaning towards several competing sources of authority: Orleanists, Bonapartists, Bourbonist Restorationists, and moderate Republicans. Each group had different practical policies under the circumstances of France. More important, each appealed to a different mode of legitimacy; in late 19th Century France, the very idea of what France was, who was and was not a part of it, and the purpose of the French regime were… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

There is all this dancing around the central issue, which is that there is a substantial minority of people in this country that simply want security of life and property, and want a culture that will nurture these ideals for the long run. Our current culture ain’t it. The ideal of the ‘50’s U.S. culture is that it seemed to more greatly identify, and hold up as ideal, sanctity of life and property. The “live as a Prepper in the woods” idea is the creating a microcosm of sanctity of life and property today, in a larger culture that respects… Read more »

Lugh
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Lugh

Yes, ordinary people have the right to security. It’s part of the social contract. That’s why they pay taxes. The “pillars of the community” who outsourced our industrial base to China are simply traitors when seen clearly.

Ever go up to a woman, or hell, anybody, and say, “I have nothing against you, I just hate your body” and then strike them? These so called patriots do just that when they support this kind of Traitor Capitalism. The Economy is the Body of the Nation. Fuck with that and your are fucking with the Nation.

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If Trump-leaning conservatives today are like French Bonapartists, then Trump would be Napoleon III, and look how that turned out. But, come to think of it, maybe having the U.S. military destroyed and Trump captured by Putin/Bismarck might not be all bad….

Tom
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Tom

Sometimes I wonder if Z isn’t just a Jew trying to gin up a civil war with a single pseudonymous blog on the internet just for the hell of it.

/sarc/

/maybe/

TBoone
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TBoone

The Beatles were pre-on to you Z.

Koo Koo ka Joo!!!!!!!

Fascinating insights into our ‘plight’…

Walter MItty
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Walter MItty

For White People, White Nationalism is the only solution. A White Ethno Country out of part of the former United States. A Country for White People only. No Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Mestizos , Asians etc., etc., etc. Where we can rebuild our institutions of Higher Learning. Discover the best among us and educate them and train them to take the rest of us to the next level of technology and civilization. While the rest of us perform those necessary functions that civilization requires. Our attitude to the rest of the people on the Planet should be one of indifference. We… Read more »

Lugh
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Lugh

Sinn Fein. For Ourselves, Ourselves Alone. La Raza has a good one too. Can’t remember the Spanish, but it translates as, “For our Race everything, for other Races, nothing.” I’m afraid Christian Charity has proven to be a two edged sword. It keeps them alive, but the often don’t have the wit to improve anything. So they hate us for making them feel inferior – and simultaneously want to come here and get the goodies. And typically they still don’t stop hating us. African Blacks are often raised better, at least the ones coming, but surely they will be dragged… Read more »

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Anything created by man, past or present, is corruptible The let can always fall back on core principles, as bad as they are, but the right finds it harder to do this.

MadSklz
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MadSklz

ZMan Please bring back vote numbers…

Gunnar von Cowtown
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Gunnar von Cowtown

The only way out… is through.

Doug
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Doug

Thats an excellent post Mr. Zman. Be a cool thing if there was a thumbs up app for us to use for your pieces. You deserve a lot of thumbs for this one.

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Let me just cut to the chase: unless or until robots to do the menial jobs “team white” don’t want to do are widespread, there will be no white ethnostate. You will get something like Apartheid South Africa (as an inevitable result of culture being downstream from biology). Good luck with making that stick.

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There are three things you have to understand to get a clue as to why we have the defective and hostile elite we have today. 1. The elite by the 19th century wasn’t all that great, it just looks good compared to what we have today. 2. There was a not so silent coup of the elite by a small tribe that viewes the majority of the population as a threat and holds no allegiance to it or the culture. I know Z Man doesn’t like to address the JQ but you can’t understand the modern US without acknowledging it.… Read more »