Prog Taqiyya

According to Islamic scholars, taqiyya is “is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.” Muslims are forbidden to deny their faith, but there are exceptions and one of them is when the Muslim is living in a place where persecution of Islam is common. In order for Islam to spread, the adherents have to be alive, so allowing for this exception makes sense. The implication here is that the faithful Muslim works like a fifth columnist, recruiting in the shadows, while hiding his faith.

Of course, this doctrine is open to interpretation, so some sects have interpreted it to mean that all lying is acceptable, if it can be argued that the lie is in service to Islam. If the faithful Muslim can use deception to help the faith, then lying is not only acceptable, it is admirable. The effect is Islam can easily become an ends justifies the means political and cultural movement. This is what we see with Islam in the West, where Imams preach against their Western hosts in the mosque, but go on television and say the opposite.

This habit of mind is something we see with modern Progressives whose hive mindedness has evolved to the point where lying to outsiders is not only acceptable, but a goal in itself. Every election, Progressives fill the airwaves with things they know are lies. In fact, they tell lies that they know everyone else knows is are lies. The practice of lying in the election process has become something like a religious practice for them. The point of the lying is not to conceal or deceive, but to demonstrate their worthiness to the cause.

The academic quality to the lying turns up in all of the Progressive fads. We saw that in the madness of the Kavanaugh hearings. The definition of sexual assault, a nonsense term in itself, has been stretched to mean just about anything, by people who seem to take pride in making the language meaningless. When you see a young feminist loon howling about being assaulted, the look on her face usually suggests she is proud to have found some way to stretch the meaning of the terms to include some new nonsense.

The thing is, the sheer volume of lying has had the effect of concealing in plain site the fact that the Progressives never speak the truth about anything. In fact, speaking the truth has become a crime of sorts. Professor Amy Wax is thinking about suing her school, because they accused her of making up what is a plainly obvious fact. If the school is correct about what she said, they could release the data and show that she is wrong. Instead, they lie, refuse to produce the data and then accuse her of lying about the data.

It used to be that the Left either exaggerated to make their points or used clever euphemism to obscure the truth. For example, the illegal immigrant was an undocumented worker. This sort of soft, fuzzy language was the result of modern managerialism, where garbage men became sanitation engineers and janitors became facility management specialists. Applying the same sort of rhetoric to political discourse was natural, but at least there was some connection to reality, even if it was tenuous.

Where they are now is that the lie is the point. This became obvious when the Clintons arrived on the scene. They would lie for sport. Even their allies were baffled as to why they would lie when the truth would serve them better. It’s not hard to imagine a person like Hillary Clinton ordering a turkey sandwich for lunch and when it comes to the table, swearing she ordered something else. There’s no purpose in the lie other than to do it and be seen doing it. Clever lying is now an end in itself with the American Left.

This cult of mendacity is not without antecedents. The Frankfurt School was a series a clever intellectual constructions that advanced a political agenda by scrambling the relationship between public policy and observable reality. From it was born the notion that the point of academic activity is to disrupt, overturn and challenge anything that resembles accepted policy. Read through the stuff coming from the multicultural rackets and the whole point of it is to turn being a public nuisance into an academic specialty.

The permanent revolution of Marxist radicalism became a permanent assault on reason by cult-Marx intellectuals. In politics this then became a game of shameless lying to not only advance an agenda, but to increase the status of the liar. The more absurd and ridiculous the fabrication, the greater the applause from the Progressive crowd. In fact, it is no longer possible to identify a Progressive agenda. It is a dadaist performance that is rapidly becoming an anti-agenda. It’s mendacious nonsense as a  public display of piety.

Invasive species are a danger because the ecosystem they invade is not prepared to deal with the foreign threat. The oriental logic of the Frankfurt School may have had the same effect in the liberal tradition of the West as the presence of Burmese pythons has had in the everglades. Instead of being taken over by this alien mode of thought, the Western liberal tradition has been driven mad by it. The result is an intellectual movement that celebrates complex dishonesty and fabrication for no purpose other than for aesthetics.

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tupelo59
tupelo59
6 years ago

Obvious parallels to Orwell’s 1984 – “She had not a thought in her head that was not a slogan, and there was no imbecility, absolutely none that she was not capable of swallowing if the Party handed it out to her.” Also Theodore Dalrymple’s observation about communist societies – “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  tupelo59
6 years ago

To successfully pass on a lie, especially when everyone involved knows it is a lie, is a demonstration of power. When a turkey sandwich is ordered, and then sent back because it was not what was ordered, it has nothing to do with turkey or sandwiches. It has everything to do with “I am the boss of you, and you will submit to my bald-faced lie as a demonstration of my power”. I wonder if the video maker and Benghazi has that element going for it.

tupelo59
tupelo59
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Without a doubt – Clinton, Obama and Rice had the gall to blame the video for the Benghazi attacks to the families of those killed.

Reed Hill
Reed Hill
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

It’s also gaslighting, which of course over time is intended to make the other side feel insane and ultimately question their own ability to observe reality. It’s why “the media” complicit with all the Leftist and Progressive deception, fraud and corruption is actually ‘at war’ with and enemies of the public. They violate the public trust in a very tangible way. They deserve to waterboarded and hanged publicly.

Carrie
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

That “strategy” is called gaslighting and it is a tactic of sociopaths, of which Hillary is one.

Frank
Frank
Reply to  tupelo59
6 years ago

I am with you 100%. I keep saying that the whole deal with trans-everything is simply a mind experiment. If they can get people to actually “believe” that the most obvious physical reality is not real, they can force you to believe just about anything. The whole time, the puppet masters are laughing their asses off watching the politicians pandering to the pronouns and any other random thought experiment is next. It is frightening to watch seemingly intelligent people swear against the obvious. I often think of the end game, when they have finally turned the entire country into Mexico,… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Frank
6 years ago

Frank, the English translation of “Islam” is “submission”. It’s all one big circle of deceit.

pdxr13
pdxr13
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Right. Islam is not “peace”, that is taquia.

dad29
Reply to  tupelo59
6 years ago

That came up today at Fordham, where faculty is now REQUIRED to address students by their “preferred gender”, not their actual sex.

No surprise that it’s a Jesuit institution; it would be worth the price of admission to see what Vince Lombardi would do to the President of that outfit were he to come back to his alma mater today.

TomA
TomA
6 years ago

Yes, Progressives are becoming increasingly blatant and bold in their behaviors. The election fraud currently being committed is shamelessly taking place out in the open in broad daylight with no reservation or remorse. As bad as that is, it is even more absurd that there are no adults in the room to remedy the situation. That strongly suggests that the fraud was preplanned, authorized, orchestrated, and implemented by the DC powerbrokers and their henchmen. The only silverlining to this travesty is that a lot of Americans are now becoming aware that the rule of law is dead in the US.

Month James
6 years ago

Taqiyya. Islam is a rotten creed that raises up rotten men. One could say that about the Left.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Month James
6 years ago

Maybe the shared understanding and practice of taqiyya is one of the reasons the Progs and the Islamists are allies.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Correct. Plus a clear understanding on the left that Islam is expressly anti-White and anti-Western. That’s why they love it so.

pdxr13
pdxr13
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Islam and Collectivism are collaboration-capable, even while they don’t trust each other. Both deserve the same fate.
Curtis LeMay & Geo Wallace for the Executive Branch command.

Drake
Drake
6 years ago

At this point elections are just elaborate lies.

34 elections so far that Republicans were winning on election night – that flipped for Democrats after ballots were conveniently found. Now we are supposed to pretend to believe they are valid for 2 years? And believe that this wasn’t just a rehearsal for a bigger fraud in 2020?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/since-election-day-democrats-pick-off-over-a-dozen-gop-house-seats-and-2-senate-seats-and-theyre-going-for-more/

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.

David Frum

A neocon gave helpful advice for once

Ajclement
Ajclement
Reply to  DeBeers Diamonds
6 years ago

This is coming faster than you think! On bioth sides

Toddy Cat
Toddy Cat
Reply to  Ajclement
6 years ago

All that this most current round of Leftist fraud proves is something most of us already knew – that we’re not going to be able to vote ourselves out of this.

The crucial importance of this is that now the normies are learning it, too. Interesting times ahead.

Flair 1239
Member
Reply to  Toddy Cat
6 years ago

I think you are overestimating the “normies”. Most do not seem even vaguely alarmed. Start talking about voter fraud, population replacement, or even an immigration shutdown, most of them will look at you like you have grown a 2nd head.

I don’t know at what percentage we reach a tipping point, but it seems like we are really far from it right now.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Flair 1239
6 years ago

This is why I think the right really needs to come to grip with the fact that they’re going to have to play a little dirty. For instance: have you ever read how radical groups get more converts to their side? They do things like take young impressionable wannabes, take them out to a protest – and put them out in front with a sign in their hands. When the cops show up and beat the hell out of them, gas them – and chuck them in jail , the old hands go bail them out , and then fill… Read more »

OneEyedJack
OneEyedJack
Reply to  Flair 1239
6 years ago

Don’t confuse Normie with stupid. The stupid can’t be reached and they are legion. Not saying you are, but those terms are often conflated.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

I tell my normie friends that I am done with elections. If my side is far ahead, my vote doesn’t matter. If the other side is far ahead, my vote doesn’t matter. If it is close, the other side will cheat to the point where my vote doesn’t matter. They can’t wrap their heads around my argument—so far.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

I’m afraid the implications of the 2018 election are devastating for Trump. He’s now a lame duck President almost certain to lose in 2020. The felon vote in Florida will turn the state blue. Trump can’t win without Florida. In two more years Georgia and Arizona may well be blue states, particularly when you factor in election fraud. The Trump agenda is dead in the water. He’ll spend the next two years trying to fight off impeachment from the House, and will get no help from the GOPe. He will become a non-entity in Washington. Trump’s fatal mistake was appointing… Read more »

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Guest
6 years ago

I concur. I think Mr. Trump has been painted into a corner, largely by his own party. In the midst of all this blatant election fraud, he has been tweeting about the French. I admire the guy enormously for what he has achieved but it was always too big a task for one man without any real allies.

Toddy Cat
Toddy Cat
Reply to  King Tut
6 years ago

Trump never had a chance of saving the US, that ship sailed almost 20 years ago. His historical role is to usher in the phase that will lead to division of the US into multiple countries. For that, he is doing an admirable job, even though it’s the last thing in the world he wants.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Toddy Cat
6 years ago

There is not going to be a partition of the US into multiple countries in the lifetime of anyone reading this. If Trump loses in 2020 the left will be firmly in control of the Presidency and the House, probably permanently. The Senate will likely remain in Republican control, but GOPe Senators will happily cave in to any demands from the left in exchange for a slight reduction in the top marginal tax rate or some such trivial exchange.

If the dollar collapses as the reserve currency then all bets are off, but we’re a long way from that event.

Diversity_Heretic
Member
Reply to  Guest
6 years ago

The partition of the U.S. may not appear likely now, but I remember when the Soviet Union seemed eternal. Things change slowly, then all at once. I agree that Trump’s re-election is highly unlikely but the Left is anything but unified, except in its dislike of white people, especially men. When they take power, the infighting may be more vicious than what’s being directed against the opposition.

John_Pate
Member
Reply to  Toddy Cat
6 years ago

The USA won’t break up while the US Military is dominant and there’s no sign of that fading away. The Orange Buffoon is now free to switch into full RINO mode all the while blaming it on the Democrat control of the House. The Wall was an empty promise for childish minds. He added insult to injury by claiming he was going to end birthright citizenship by EO before the elections, of course that will never happen. The betrayal will be obvious when the Democrat gun bans mysteriously manage to make their way past the Republican Senate and Supremes impeded… Read more »

Christina
Christina
6 years ago

A fascinating dichotomy between liars and Truth-tellers: The liar needs the liar in order to spread the lie, so they employ whatever means necessary to spread it. The Truth-teller has no such compulsion. It is not a hindrance to the truth to die for the truth, because if it is the truth, it doesn’t need us to spread it. Christianity says not to deny God, even in the face of persecution, while Islam says its ok to lie to avoid death. Christianity relies on God to spread his words, while we are merely tools. Islam’s sole mechanism of spreading is… Read more »

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Christina
6 years ago

If Christianity is replaced in the west, hopefully it is by something with the same attempted fidelity to the truth. Of course, as a Christian, I doubt it can be replaced.

Christina
Christina
Reply to  ronehjr
6 years ago

There are going to be a portion of the population that cannot and will not see the truth. There will be a very small select who know the truth but rebel against it.

There is also a segment of the population who will see the truth and already know the truth.

When you insert “Christ” for “Truth”, it should bring some comfort. Truth wins in the end.

dad29
Reply to  Christina
6 years ago

Christ already did that: “I am the Way, Truth, Life.” Add Aristotle’s dictum, and “Truth, Beauty, Goodness, Way, and Life” are equivalences.

That should give one the proper perspective on those who war against the truth. It is not a co-incidence that they also war against Life, Beauty, and Goodness.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  ronehjr
6 years ago

You can’t replace the truth.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Christina
6 years ago

In the presence of a Stalin, Christian fidelity is useless.

Centurion_Cornelius
Centurion_Cornelius
Reply to  Epaminondas
6 years ago

Unka Joe: “How many Divisions does the Vatican have?” ((chortle))

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
6 years ago

You should read Solzhenitsyn’s descriptions of Christians in the gulags

Joachim
Joachim
Reply to  Epaminondas
6 years ago

I’ve wondered how, if Imperial Japan had taken India, Mahatma Gandhi’s efforts would have worked out.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Joachim
6 years ago

Numerous “Nanking” massacres.

Jonah Kyle
Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

I hate to be Debbie Downer, but reality is a cold-hearted witch. The plain fact is there is NO solution to the problem we face. Once the lies are now regarded as hard truths by a significant amount of the population with no ability to rebut it in this communications blackout against non-progressive thought, and creating votes out of “intent” to vote from provisional votes that have no chain of custody, the United States is doomed as a Constitutional Republic. In fact, these are darker days than at ANY time in this country’s history, because of our inability to counter… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

Well, that’s a frikkin’ black pill. Can’t disagree with any of it.

Mcleod
Mcleod
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Without whitey there’s no civilization, but whitey just won’t get with the program (pogrom). Do they honestly believe that they can make women engineers or Africans physicists? The majority of the minority cannot have quite swallowed this lie, so what we have to assume that this minority of the population has decided that they would rather have control than have civilization. The problem is that civilization is the marginal minority’s method of control. It’s a loop that not even Stalin could escape for long.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

LOL.

WW1 “saved” the West?

Pat Buchanan would completely disagree.

Marxism was loosed on the world by the insanity the West plunged into during WW1.

This guy is a perfect example of ability to do root cause analysis among many conservatives I run into.

Most lefties are COMPLETELY unable to do it – but I call out conservatives because they are *supposed to be* different from the lefties.

Toddy Cat
Toddy Cat
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

When the time comes, you’ll be surprised at the allies we have. The Globalist elite is hated by the common people of almost every country on Earth. In retrospect, people will say that their fall was inevitable.

I remember when the USSR looked unbeatable too. Courage. Despair is a sin, and a bad policy as well.

Chad Thundercock
Chad Thundercock
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

Grow a pair, Jonah. You sound like a pussy.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
6 years ago

You had it until the last bit. Cortez is not new and neoliberalism isn’t going to yield to brown socialism. La Raza is no match for J-Street.

Epaminondas
Member
6 years ago

“The result is an intellectual movement that celebrates complex dishonesty and fabrication for no purpose other than for aesthetics.”

Ah, but that course of action is only for the present time. When the left feels it has complete electoral and bureaucratic control, they will jettison this device. The aesthetics of universal, lunatic, leftist outrage will be replaced with the serene, bureaucratic tactics of the silent, unseen hunter. And we all know who will become the prey.

Mcleod
Mcleod
6 years ago

“Invasive species are a danger because the ecosystem they invade is not prepared to deal with the foreign threat.”
There is no race or “culture” as capable of extreme methodical violence as the “Western Liberal Tradition”. I remember arguing with a friend during the sudden drama over water boarding and how “that’s not who we are”. Really dumbass, not who we are? Waterboarding is the kiddy pool compared to who we are. The left has forgotten this. What happens when the debt bubble pops and the average person has nothing left to lose?

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Mcleod
6 years ago

I really miss drawing and quartering, don’t you?

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  Mcleod
6 years ago

Back in college was doing some informal RA work for my thesis adviser. Had to abstract several hours of transcripts of his interviews with Curtis LeMay. Let’s just say, when the “Western Tradition” gets its back against the wall, we’ll burn a continent and not think twice about it.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Mcleod
6 years ago

Indeed, Frey Tomas de Torquemada, the Grand Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition, introduced water boarding as a less injurious mitigation of previously employed “truth seeking” procedures such as the rack, which often led to the permanent disability or death of the confessed penitent. Water boarding was employed because it induced great psychological fear but rarely resulted in physical injury. Of course whether the Spanish Inqusition was aware of PTSD is unrecorded history.
The West knows how to project power in the service of culture.

Rod1963
Rod1963
Reply to  Mcleod
6 years ago

You know where waterboarding came from? It came from the military course on being a POW. They would subject special ops soldiers and pilots to waterboarding to give them a taste of interrogation.

Of course the Lefrards complaining about it never tell us that or the fact that our enemies, use power drills, acid and old fashioned beatings among other techniques on our people and then kill them. Generally they don’t take prisoners.

Babe Ruthless
Babe Ruthless
6 years ago

Short version: whitey is too nice for his own good.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Babe Ruthless
6 years ago

Well, NOW we are. Where is the SS when you need them?

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Epaminondas
6 years ago

They don’t study history so they don’t know what motivated whiteys are capable of.

pdxr13
pdxr13
Reply to  Babe Ruthless
6 years ago

While the Free Stuff and easy living continues, Whitey just wants to get along. White men self-organize well, now to keep things running.

When the trucks stop running, everyone tribes up and starts gathering territory and supply. This means killing off other accessible tribes who are eating our food/squatting on our frontier. The rule is always “Me, Mine”. Sure, the victorious tribe will have sympathy for their surviving compliant young women now that they need men and leadership/protection.
There will be blood. There always has been.

Member
6 years ago

The lying (for example through obvious election fraud) is encouraged by the losing party refusing to do anything about it other than saying “that isn’t proper!” while clutching its pearls.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  My_Comment
6 years ago

Millions of white leftists are convinced that Theresa May is an irredeemable racist, in spite of the fact that the Conservative Party has engaged in rampant affirmative action. If people are willing to believe that about May, just imagine what they think about Trump. Anglos are particularly susceptible to “sportsmanship” claims, and the belief that certain groups are “historical victims” that must be “graded on a curve”. A complaint about fraud, is worse than fraud itself, because it causes people to recognize that blacks are tolerant of corruption. White liberals vacillate between The Procedure and No Place for Racists. Had… Read more »

James_OMeara
Member
6 years ago

Frankfurt School, “oriental logic” … you seem to be hinting at something, but I can’t quite tell (((what))).

Pursuvant
Pursuvant
Reply to  James_OMeara
6 years ago

Perhaps it’s the ying & yang, the idea that all dualities (i.e. truth & lies) are two sides of the same coin in Oriental philosophy. But in fairness that’s just an inability of us to grasp that an Infinite God transcends all concepts.

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
Reply to  James_OMeara
6 years ago

I propose a new elaboration of the bracket system which everyone realizes signals nothing. Since there are many persons of mixed ethnicity who also practice tribal loyalty yet may not merit full brackets, I would suggest diluting the brackets according to the genetic dilution. This has added information content. Observe: ((Michael Cohen), to signify an individual with a (((father))), but (John Smith)) to indicate a (((mother))). I realize this would break down for individuals with two fathers or two mothers. 😉

Carrie
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
6 years ago

I still don’t understand the stupid bracket thing.
Why not just say what you want to say with words, instead of punctuation?

Thisisme
Thisisme
Reply to  James_OMeara
6 years ago

Like China now owns FUSA?

Babe Ruthless
Babe Ruthless
6 years ago

The division of left and right now largely maps onto the division of the unprincipled and the principled, the sociopaths and the non-sociopaths. If “principledness” is one bell curve, with sociopathic killers on the far left, and the unfailingly decent on the far right, then you could say that the political left, by its very nature, attracts more people from the left side of that curve, and the political right more people from the right side of the curve. Thus we’ve separated out two curves representing the two political camps, overlapping to be sure, but one with a bulge on… Read more »

wjkathman
wjkathman
Reply to  Babe Ruthless
6 years ago

One of the arguably unfortunate aspects of reality is that Good may have to adopt some of the tactics of Evil (such as selective deception) to ultimately prevail. My suspicion is that leftists break down mostly into two groups: those who are power-hungry simply for the sake of power (minority) and those who are personally disillusioned but blame their dysfunction/low self esteem on society so that they can avoid a potentially painful self-examination (majority). Members of the former group prefer mayhem because it provides them an excuse to expand their power. Members of the latter group prefer mayhem for reasons… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
6 years ago

Another way of putting it is that the basically honest Heritage Americans lacked antibodies against foreign invaders who would lie and deceive about everything in order to get their way…Which is another reason not to let foreigners settle in your country.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
6 years ago

That is why Southerners wanted a permanent underclass. They didn’t need to trust blacks because they were never intended to be citizens. Silly them for thinking that. You just can’t beat those do-gooders in society who ruin your fun, and who want to get all hatey about things.

Joachim
Joachim
Reply to  pyrrhus
6 years ago

Why did they lack those antibodies? Perhaps their first principles were faulty, perhaps their conceptions of good and evil were faulty. Where do we trace those? Can a portion of the West slip out of this epically insane clustf*ck without having to extricate a critical mass of whites from these first principles? I don’t know.

Member
6 years ago

Credit where due. The Left seized control of the very institutions that determine what words mean first and then redefined words to suit their mission. When you can change a word like “racism” from holding animus toward another person because of their race into simply being white as sufficient evidence of racism, it makes the propaganda war easier. Who is going to correct them? The media? The “education” establishment? Of course not. The subversion of the institutions is the greatest enabler of what you are describing in this post. Little wonder no one trusts the institutions that were once considered… Read more »

Lester Fewer
Lester Fewer
6 years ago

America as the currently-understood political entity we now inhabit is effectively at an end. The now-Khmer Rouge legislature, which has openly stolen dozens of seats through the most patently ludicrous criminal fraud, and is fighting to fraudulently claim two governorships, has effectively declared open war on a duly and fairly elected sitting president simply for the crime of having been duly elected and being Not One Of Theirs. No other charge is even remotely believeable. Donald Trump is illegitimate because he spoke ( and only spoke, mind you; the man has done zero regarding his mandated agenda) on behalf of… Read more »

Lester Fewer
Lester Fewer
Reply to  Lester Fewer
6 years ago

GLENN FREY: It’s another taqqiyya sunrise…

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Lester Fewer
6 years ago

Welcome to the Vote-tel California. We are all just prisoners here, of our own device. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper
Reply to  Lester Fewer
6 years ago

No way in hell is partition going to happen unless both sides are bled dry. The Left can’t give up the wealth the rest of the country has nor its desire for control and the Right can’t afford the security risk of Left wing states hiring foreign troops to wage war on them in perpetuity. It has to be one or another. My money is on the Left though as the Right is leaderless, incapable of any sort of collective action or of forming an ideology and won’t rule with a iron hand or at all. You can’t run from… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Member
6 years ago

The recent “performance art” by that carbuncle Jim Acosta is a trivial, but highly publicized, example of such lying. Rather than ask a question, he simply insisted that, against all evidence, the president agree with him that the dusky hoard heading our way from the south is NOT an invasion. As we know, we’re all supposed to trust Google to lead us toward the light and away from darkness, so I Googled “invasion,” and here the definition that came up: “an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity,” and, “an unwelcome… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
6 years ago

The language destruction is the direct result of the spreading of Frankfurt School Marxism.

If you take away a man’s ability to use language to describe his enslavement – then how does he complain about it?

Dutch
Dutch
6 years ago

My lefty friends and family are appalled by my constant declarations of “everything you see and hear is fake”. I am on to them, and they know it.

Whiskey
Whiskey
6 years ago

OT or maybe not, Angela Merkel is echoing Macron for a European Army to fight America. An obvious lie it’s purpose would be to invade and crush Poland, Hungary, Italy, and Switzerland to put more immavaders there.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

But the German Army national quidditch team will be awesome!

dad29
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

The Krauts and Frogs should fear a combination of the Hungarians, Czekhs, and Poles.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  thezman
6 years ago

Hence the need for a European rather than German army. I assume most of it Nothern Algerian and paid for by Germany.

Merkel does not speak on a whim

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Whiskey
6 years ago

A while ago I read something about Russia becoming the savior of Europe – as it would go to war with the rest of Europe and kick out the Islamic invaders. If Macron & Merkel put together a “European Army” – and use it to go after Poland, Hungary, Italy and Switzerland – maybe this solution is actually coming to fruition. Russia allies with Poland, Hungary, Italy and Switzerland (probably throw a few other random countries in there as well) – and then crushes the rest of Europe and throws out the Muslim invaders. The real question is: whose side… Read more »

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
6 years ago

Happened to see Wax speak after getting an award earlier this year and she addressed this issue. What was even more Orwellian is that the Penn Law administration told her she was wrong about the class rankings despite the fact that she oversaw the the summer associate and clerkship process for years and had both access to the data and intimate familiarity with the “profiles” of all the students. She knows that and the administration knows that…yet the Kabuki theater continues.

expatriot
expatriot
6 years ago

Probably your best post ever, which is saying something.

tupelo59
tupelo59
6 years ago

There is only one solution at this point. They have to be taken out en masse. Today, too few will risk giving up their bread and circuses to carry this out. Thus, unless real, extended privation occurs, probably brought on by an economic collapse, we’ll continue on the present path to the Marxist paradise. Hope we can get good sushi in the camps.

Ajclement
Ajclement
6 years ago

Zman will it continue? At what point will the child or the populace notice that the emperor has no clothes and thus collapse of its own weight? Or will the “ordinary” madness continue until the The lies become so big everyone pretends to believe them?

revjen45
revjen45
Reply to  Ajclement
6 years ago

The questions to ask are 1) Is there a %age of extortion at which the parasites finally overcome the host organism? 2) If the answer is YES what is that figure? 3) If the answer is NO what reason do the Productive have to keep producing? 4) If the Productive quit producing to feed the Useless Eaters what happens then? Will the Useless Eaters go full-on Loot & Burn? Hmmm – I think we have uncovered the reason for the ongoing full court press for gun control. The Productive will take umbrage at the theft of what they have earned,… Read more »

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
6 years ago

Our side practices high level deception against us as well. In an effort to remove “hate” from my life and become normie, I have started to read magazine rack conservative publications, such as national review, weekly standard, commentary, and chronicles. In this months issue of chronicles, there is a lengthy article discussing the necessity of immigrants speaking English and the danger of Spanish speaking conclaves. The author is chosen to have an obviously Hispanic name. Ben franklins hostility to German speaking immigrants is expounded, as if to imply there is no difference between Germans and Mexicans. All we need to… Read more »

Toddy Cat
Toddy Cat
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
6 years ago

It doesn’t help to have people like Ron Unz on “our” side, acting as if the leftist drive to import more immigrants has something to do with concern with the wellbeing of the immigrants themselves, instead of creating a bought and paid for vote bank. If Mexicans voted 60% Republican instead of Democrat, we’d have a100-foot wall topped with razor wire and automatic machine guns on the southern border, and everybody knows it – except normie-cons like Unz. Damned well infuriating.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Toddy Cat
6 years ago

You’re ignorant if you don’t think that there’s a significant amount of people that excuse away their support of importing immigrants by telling themselves that they’re good people for letting them all come in and become “Americans”. The way you short circuit these people is by detailing the ways in which their support is actually harming people. I’ve seen it happen right in front of my face. It’s how you separate the good hearted from the truly evil. Because the truly evil will just double down and resort to whatever arguments they think will support their position. The people who… Read more »

Linda Fox
6 years ago

Another reason for the change is that, if all is lies and fakery, doing things for logical reasons is meaningless.
Rather than give a reason for your actions, when questioned, you simply reply: “Why, no, I didn’t say or do that! YOU must be the mistaken one! Or, more likely, EVIL! Shame on you for your refusal to remember the ‘right’ things”.

Nick
Nick
6 years ago

I believe they call it pilpul. It is alien to the western tradition. And subversive of all western ideals. It is the reason this invasive species needs to be driven out of our natural habitats

Drake
Drake
6 years ago

Tommy Robinson was just denied a visa to visit the U.S. and speak the truth.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Drake
6 years ago

Robinson is a proxy of the Security Service (MI5), almost certainly controlled opposition. The vast majority of the UK hates him, seeing him as a leader of drunken football hooligans. He’s someone best cast over the side.

Strabo
Strabo
Reply to  DeBeers Diamonds
6 years ago

He is hated by the majority of the elite whose opinion is the only one represented by the trash media in the UK. Don’t assume he’s hated by everyone else;if he was the BBC et al. would not spend so much time telling every Briton that they must hate him.

There’s no evidence that he’s an MI5 asset or that he’s seen as a drunken hooligan. However, there’s plenty of evidence that you don’t have a clue when you talk about the UK.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Strabo
6 years ago

I invite you to take a look into what MI5 have done in the UK, and what the FBI has done in the US. Robinson himself admitted in his book that he was recruited by the regular police to be an informant in Jayda Fransen’s other organization. He says he turned them down. MI5 has admitted that they consider the far-right to be the biggest security threat. Starting, and then bailing, on the EDL suggests a honeypot operation. Robinson isn’t a drunk, but many of his followers are.

Simon
Simon
Reply to  DeBeers Diamonds
6 years ago

I think you must be on the sauce. Have you spoken to anyone in England? I live here and everytime TR comes up, people support his exposing of the Muslim abusers. All those I have discussed it with are not drunks.

AntiDem
Member
6 years ago

The purpose of these lies is to make you agree there are five lights when there are really only four.

Tom
Tom
6 years ago

In re: the lies of the Clintons. Bill does it to cover up his nefarious acts and intentions , but Hillary is a different case. I was reminded of the Dalrymple quote on Russian propaganda, “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Tom
6 years ago

No kidding, she is a total head case, and half the country cheers her on to be president. Incredible.

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
6 years ago

Socrates and Cicero were not white and the study of Greek and Roman antiquity is inherently racist, says deranged virtue-signaling proggy catlady professor. Her solution: deny history and substitute an imaginary diversity: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/himmlers-antiquity/ The proggy prof is launched on her mission to obliterate the past because of deep concern that “alt-right” types have taken up classical civilization as an exemplar of the sublime achievements of white men. What proggy prof doesn’t bother to ask herself in her zeal is what kind of achievements are possible by people who live in a wholly imaginary world because reality is always hurting their… Read more »

Dupont Circle
Dupont Circle
Reply to  Christopher S. Johns
6 years ago

“What proggy prof doesn’t bother to ask herself in her zeal is what kind of achievements are possible by people who live in a wholly imaginary world because reality is always hurting their fragile feelings?”

I think it’s calculated too. Along the lines of Obama’s, You didn’t build that. Denigrating white men’s acheivements by making Hamilton, Greeks, etc. black they can create a golden age of diversity compared to the racist, sexist present; and allow people like the professor to advance by means of more special treatment. In other words, it’s an elaborate rationale for more concessions from white men.

bilejones
Member
6 years ago

“This cult of mendacity is not without antecedents.”

The jews spring to mind but here escape mention.
Funny dat.

Severian
6 years ago

Czelaw Milosz, in The Captive Mind, called it “ketman” — not just lying, or even lying for the sake of lying, but taking pride in how skillfully one lies, and how big a lie one can get someone else to (apparently) swallow. He said dissidents did it in Communist countries, and warned that, functionally, it’s the same as Communism — the dissident in his own mind is uttering a damning critique of Communism, but because it’s cloaked in so many lies, and because he’s so proud of the subtlety of his lies, he is in effect just parroting the party… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Severian
6 years ago

I just finished that chapter on audiobook. I’m on to Alpha now. I think that whole book is going to get a second listen. Just extraordinary. And you know he never left the left. Hope Springs Eternal I guess

Lance_E
Member
6 years ago

The only part of this that I take issue with is at the very end, where you refer to the Frankfurt School as an invasive species in the west. Maybe in a very technical sense it is not “native” – if you consider Hungary to be “oriental” – but in any case it’s merely a mutation of the original invasive species introduced to the world BY the west, that being liberal democracy (AKA communism) itself. That’s why any non-western country that absorbs the latter is destroyed almost instantly. The west, and America in particular, has only itself to blame. If… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Lance_E
6 years ago

Re: “liberal democracy”. The United States at least – was NOT setup as a “liberal democracy”. It was setup as a Republic. The whole “democracy” thing is something that has been foisted upon us by the marxist left as a way station on the road to communism. The Wiki entry is instructive – because it’s first paragraphs include the US, but fail to make the distinction that the US was setup as a Republic and DID NOT HAVE “universal suffrage”. Most of the founders of this country warned against “democracy”. The fact that people on the right cannot seem to… Read more »

Lance E
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
6 years ago

Republic is a form of democracy. It decays into universal-suffrage democracy at a half-life of about 100 years.

The “muh republic” argument is a staple of boomer conservatism, like “free trade” or “DR3”. The left doesn’t care, and the reactionary right knows better.

America has been explicitly communist since the early 1900s, and from the late 18th century onward was clearly in love with revolutionary democracy. “No taxation without representation!” What do you think that statement is conveying?

bilejones
Member
6 years ago

But about judaism we learn from this:

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/hf_LyingPermissible.html

“Thus, there are several circumstances where one is permitted or sometimes required to lie:

Lying to preserve the cause of peace, not to hurt another person’s feelings, or to provide comfort.

Lying in a situation where honesty might cause oneself or another person harm.

Lying for the sake of modesty or in order not to appear arrogant.

Lying for the sake of decency, i.e., not telling the truth about intimate matters.

Lying to protect one’s property from scoundrels.”

In other words, when it’s beneficial to the Jew.

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper
Reply to  bilejones
6 years ago

I’m having trouble seeing why these are bad reasons to lie or that any of these things are opposed by or against the common culture of the West. Most of this reminds me of Scandinavian Jante Law Complete honesty is Facebook autism and leads to endless social conflict. Or has House says “everybody lies” thank goodness for that. Of course maybe this reaction is because I’m tired of hearing about high trust the West was. That is bullshit that people believe to be true. We are more trustworthy now do to the administrative state and effective incarceration. Maybe peoples west… Read more »

thekrustykurmudgeon
6 years ago

I feel like prog taqiyya isn’t something you see now but something you saw more often in the old days. How did William Brennan, who was pretty far left as a supreme court justice, get appointed by a republican? Why did Rodgers and Hammerstein, both NY jews, make wholesome/patriotic musicals? Because they wanted one foot in the door.

dad29
Reply to  thekrustykurmudgeon
6 years ago

“The old days,” eh? How about that harebrained Justice Kennedy inventing queer marriage? Or any current “trans-XYZABQLTD”?

You are looking at dystopia today, yet complain about Rogers/Hammerstein? Hmmmm.

Joachim
Joachim
6 years ago

I think part of the left’s willingness to spread falsehood is based in opportunism, wishing to rise in social status via public adherence to the new faith, part rooted in evolutionary psychology, as those who do not meld with the group tend be weak and exposed, and thus fail to pass on their genes, part a wish to identify themselves with the “smart and accomplished”, the elite in the Ivory Tower and such, and part desire to be on the right side of our hegemonic definition of Good versus Evil, and to believe in a coming universalist egalitarian utopia. Related… Read more »

Carrie
Reply to  Joachim
6 years ago

@Joachim-
It sounds like the people you are describing are NOT true traditional, Orthodox Catholics.
The ones who have been “red pilled” (or whatever) understand Canon 188 and understand that in the current case, Sedevacantism does NOT apply to Jorge / Pope Benedict XVI. The latter is still the one and only Pope.

Curious to know what you mean about “recognize and resist.” Never heard that catchphrase.

The traditional Catholics I know do not believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis. It sounds like they are Evangelicals.

Interesting comments. Thanks for sharing.

Frip
Member
6 years ago

All of the themes discussed above are captured in this brief McEnroe clip. Elite lordliness. Show trial ambiance. Sputtering & groveling to escape the void. Feigning belief in the absurd…apologies required for not maintaining the absurd.

(For those unfamiliar with sports or tennis. Thanks to MSM lies and hype, much of the Western world is under the impression that the best women’s tennis player is as good as the best men. Anyway, an embarrassing performance from all parties. But at least he managed a clever maneuver at the end.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vw0AHsjFM

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Frip
6 years ago

From Wikipedia Another event dubbed a “Battle of the Sexes” took place during the 1998 Australian Open[52] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world’s top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as “a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager”.[53][52] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[54] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two… Read more »

Frip
Member
Reply to  Whitney
6 years ago

Whitney, great story about the Aussie guy. But forget about ranked guys. I’ve played tennis my whole life. Good *college* guys would beat the top women. Hell I’ve seen club players who’d beat them. But of course, half of this fuss was about a white man speaking something other than high praise for our Great Black Queen.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
6 years ago

The most important psychological purpose of obvious lies is probably to humiliate, cow and check for submission in ‘recipients’ of that lie. That said, a million reasons to lie, obviously.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
6 years ago

That word “submission” keeps popping up in today’s conversation. It is no coincidence. In-your-face lying, cheating, and stealing is all about forcing submission. It is what tyrants and unhappy people of all stripes seek from others. If there is an expectation of your submission involved in any relationship you engage in, run, don’t walk. It’s a cookbook.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Dutch
6 years ago

Run. Or, submit the malicious MF first. But yeah, agree, also w the rest.

Ajclement
Ajclement
6 years ago

Zman I sure hope that this week’s podcast is less blackpilled than your recent posts