By now, even militant anti-Hollywood people are aware of the zombie apocalypse, where humanity is put at risk by a plague of zombies. It’s not always zombies. It could be a vampire problem. The general idea is always the same though. For some reason, people turn into murderous crazies, attacking normal people. Another variation is the newly dead rise and begin attacking the living, thus increasing the number of zombies while decreasing the stock of the living. This is the most popular version of the concept.
The cause of this problem is either a virus that just turned up for no reason, a virus made by man or some alien bug that arrived here for unknown reasons. The germ of this idea, so to speak, is the novel I Am Legend. In it the hero is the last normal person on earth, plagued by what appears to be vampires. He eventually figures out that they have been infected with a disease that causes the vampire like symptoms. The book ends with him having been captured by a hybrid group of vampires that are the future of man.
The odd thing about Hollywood adaptations of this idea is they never focus on the logic behind a disease that would cause a species to murder itself. A virus that kills the host can only work if the host, in the process of dying, infects new hosts. A pathogen that killed instantly would die off quickly, so it would most likely never evolve in the first place. The first iteration would kill the host, before it could spread or kill the population so quickly that no one could get to another population group in time to infect them.
Species do go extinct, so it is not inconceivable that some new environment element could evolve to take out humanity or a large part of it. The Black Death did a number on Europe, so we know such a plague is possible. Thousand cankers disease is a blight that attacks certain walnut trees. The disease results from the combined activity of the walnut twig beetle and a fungus. It could very well wipe out the walnut tree. Similarly, the common banana, known as the cavendish, is at risk from Panama disease.
This idea of a disease that causes people to turn on one another, combined with the habit of nature to clean the slate from time to time, is a useful way to think about the western disease of multiculturalism. Rather than think of it as a set of nutty ideas or a conspiracy by one population to prey on another, it is best thought of as a pathogen that is causing Europeans to attack themselves. Instead of rage zombies, we have people obsessed with the emotional well-being of aliens, at the expense of their kin.
This live stream with Ed Dutton, John Derbyshire and Richard Spencer from last week gets into it a little bit. Around the 50-minute mark, they talk about how the Finns, in particular, but Europe as a whole, have suddenly and inexplicably become pathological in their altruism. The whole video is worth watching, as Ed Dutton is a very interesting guy with a head full of dangerous ideas. As is often the case, when smart people from this side of the divide get together, they end up puzzling over the disease of multiculturalism.
That’s the thing though, no one ever thinks of it like a disease. Instead, the rock solid belief is that it is simply the result of misreading history or drawing the wrong lessons from the industrial wars of the 20th century. The quest for half a century has been to find the right combination of noises that will drop the scales from the eyes of the ruling elites so they will reject multiculturalism. Despite thousands of smart people working tirelessly to find the right combination of sounds, the disease has spread to all corners of the West.
An important thing Dutton points out is that the Finns used to be a very inward looking population group. In fact, northern people in general were very hostile to outsiders, for practical reasons related to ecology. When you live in challenging environments, cooperation is essential. This inevitably rewards traits that bind people close to their social group and traits that make people hostile to outsiders, who could come in and take some of the precious resources of the group. It’s ecological tribalism.
In the last half century, even the notoriously inward looking Finns have been plagued by the need to invite the world, particularly the most hostile parts, into their community. As Dutton mentions, it even seems to be causing the Finns to lose their shyness, something for which they have been known since forever. What possible reasons could a happy people like the Finns suddenly decided to destroy themselves by inviting in hostile foreigners from the other side of the globe? What’s causing this madness?
That is an important part of stress, with regards to multiculturalism. It is new and just sort of arrived in the middle of the last century. We think of bad ideas as a disease of the mind, but what if it is actually a disease? What if like Toxoplasma gondii, a new germ is infecting Europeans, causing them to lose their natural fear of that which is a threat to their existence? Instead of turning local populations directly against themselves, as is the case with the rage zombie idea, they are losing their ability to defend themselves.
It sounds incredible, but there is growing evidence that the bacteria responsible for gum disease may be the cause of Alzheimer’s disease. It has long been known that there is a correlation between periodontal disease and pancreatic cancer. It was assumed it was a common genetic cause, but it could be a common virus or bacteria. Greg Cochran has speculated that something similar could be the cause of homosexuality. His “gay germ” theory is speculation, but not unreasonable, given the data.
Now, such a result would mean the “cure” for multiculturalism is we either treat these people like the rage zombies in TV shows or begin to think of them as lost and unable to assimilate into a newly rationalized West. That is, they will be eaten by the rage zombies they invite into our communities. The rest of us, like the survivors in those TV shows, will have to find our own place to hold up and rebuild. Those in the West immune to the disease of multiculturalism will become the founding stock of the new Western people.
Douglas Murray’s ‘The Strange Death of Europe” is an excellent intro to the weird phenomena of Western Europeans seeming to decide to destroy themselves and committing culture wide suicide but like most books of that type he doesn’t really have a solution, probably because there isn’t one. I have come to the place you describe as holding up and rebuilding. We are past the tipping point and at this point nothing is going to turn things around without some major calamity.
Dutton has a fine book titled, The Genius Famine. It’s how the West has been particularly good (in the past) at creating and mostly nurturing genius in the past, but is doing everything to kill the genius type of person today. The story the young geneticist who killed himself after getting media mobbed for the crime of misspeak is a good example of Dutton’s “endogenous” personality: a person with innate talent, immense inner drive for knowledge and truth, and high intelligence. We see this with the watsoning of people.
Enough of this defeatist balderdash!
That wall is going up. Not one single black baboon took a knee during the super bowl. A handful of whites ran Africa and ruled over millions of the meanest, stupidest killer apes ever created by nature. All we have to do to defeat them is build a wall, keep them out, and blacks will take care of themselves. The rest will come to heel when the power goes out and the toilets and fawcets stop working.
We may be down but we are far from out.
Thank for the white pill.
A certain class of IA comes across the southern border—but the majority of bodies come from elsewhere, particularly overstayed VISAs. This hole needs to be patched as well. An insistence on E-verify and other checks for citizenship before employment is essential and must be step 2 by Trump.
Legal immigration into the US is basically a whole forest of different scams each with it’s own supposed justification, one foreign critter rides the student VISA train, another flies in on H1B Airlines, then there are “tourists”. There are lots of different ways in but the main trick is to forget to leave. You can then take advantage of the fact that the US seems to have believed in the honor system and that people would just obey the law when their VISA was up. I suspect that a lot of demand for various legal VISAs comes from the fact… Read more »
Possibly, but we need to look at what else happened ~1950 that could have caused this change in the West. The growth of suburbs and TV were major environmental changes. The middle class was able to separate themselves like never before from a lot of reality that you’d see in a more dense environment. In addition, children (and adults) were hit daily by hours of propaganda that they believed to be reality because their isolation didn’t provide a counter-view. That’s a huge change, one that continues to this day. That said, I do believe that some people are more susceptible… Read more »
Propaganda as a cause of disease of the mind. That would explain a lot.
Conversely, I have relatives who believe almost everything they see on the news or any sob story they see on Facebook. They are all prone to mental illness.
Perhaps our industrial, then digital, society sickens the mind, making it susceptible to propaganda.
The middle class was able to separate themselves like never before from a lot of reality that you’d see in a more dense environment. For most of history — even a lot of U.S. history, living in dense, urban environments was the exception. Only in the mid19th to early 20th century did mass urbanization become a thing, and only by necessity. Nobody ever really liked it, which is why people with the means escape to less-dense suburbs as quickly as possible. A smaller percentage go rural, these days. Most people don’t want to live without the amenities of city and… Read more »
the Finns used to be a very inward looking population group. A British hack who had lived for some years in different Scandinavian countries, wrote a book about his experience, containing this anecdote about a Finnish acquaintance: his Finnish friend was showing him around when their car broke down. Soon, a car stopped and a man got out: ‘Engine trouble?’ The friend nodded, and for the next forty minutes, not another word was said while they were rummaging in the engine compartment. So the two Finns manage to repair the car, exchange a nod, and they continue their journey. “I… Read more »
Great story, but it doesn’t illustrate “shyness” or “inward looking”. It’s the natural intimacy and familiarity of small local populations without any foreign intrusion — a “village culture” like the ones 90 per cent of humans experienced over the last 3,000 years or more. Diversity is the chief culprit in the breakdown of social intimacy and assumed norms and social trust. And this is of course by (((deliberate design))). When people say “Diversity is our strength”, what they really mean is, “Diversity is /our/ strength — in the fight against /you/.” My father had five brothers, and they all got… Read more »
The Juice Disease
World War J
Part of it was the full implementation of government schools throughout Europe and North America. History was literally untaught. The Reconquista went from being a long, glorious victory of Western Civilization over the evils of Islam – to a war crime. 1500 years of Islamic aggression systematically downplayed. Slavery in every time and place except the colonial New World completely ignored…
Now we have idiots dressed up like Mussolini’s Black Shirts on the streets rioting against Fascism, without a whiff of irony.
Yes, Drake, the schools harness our children’s minds and shape them to think favorably, indeed *prefer*, foreigners (out-group). When Trump brought in Betsy DeVos to have an attempt at improving our public schools, there’s good reason the protectors of our diseased curricula acted out so vehemently against her that she needed police protection. They showed how important it is to have control of what is being fed into our children’s minds and not just shaping, but changing our people and our culture. And there’s no mistake that women are chosen to carry out much of this. Men build our society… Read more »
My relatively uninformed impression is that the “anti-vaccine” movement is led by college educated wealthy white women. I don’t expect any of them to hold degrees in microbiology.
Thanks, Ursula. I had an experience once (about 2015-’16 or so), at an elementary school where I was working as a part-time teacher. (A choice “by design” b/c I refuse to do full-time paperwork or parent politics, but enjoy teaching youngsters a few “life skills” and accountability, from time to time.) One of the [white female] full-time teachers and I were chit-chatting. However the convo evolved, I pointed out to her, in plain language, looking straight in the eye, that “abortion is murder.” She just stared at me. Deer in the headlights. Had no idea what to say. And then… Read more »
I think public opinion polls in Europe suggest that women support third world immigration and men do not. I do think there is at least a little truth to the idea that women prefer the more non-domesticated man to the modern Western guy, despite all the cries to the contrary. Does that it explain it all? No. Women virtue-signal more than guys do about everything. Also, why do the Swiss seem to at least have partial immunity to the craziness of inviting third world Muslims into their country? Does it have something to do with the fact that Swiss governance… Read more »
Maybe western man just failed the shit-tests of feminism? Actually letting third-worlders in is yet another shit-test fail.
Certainly they would seem to prefer non-domesticated, in the sense that while they like to drink soy, they don’t want to mate with it. But that would write off soy-boys, not normal white men. I think the latter observation has more to do with it – uber virtue signalling, and the natural maternal instinct. In particular for those with no children of their own, these “oppressed” minorities become surrogate children upon whom they may lavish their unrealized maternal instincts while gaining chattering class points.
I think there’s something to your argument combined with a previous post by Z on survival of the fittest.
Women think differently because mom says everyone at the table gets to eat, regardless.
The Swiss didn’t let women vote until the 1970s. Those gun toting, bike riding, cheese eating mountain bankers can be very sensible when they want to be.
The Swiss also have had that militia requirement. This gives status to the more masculine men, which may have helped counter the cultural poz.
South Korea has mandatory male conscription, but also one of the lowest TFRs, about 1.0 compared to 1.4 in Japan. It appears to be linked to outrageous female demands for lavish weddings and houses. It’s also said that the Korean military is rather brutal and humiliating, and recruits fight over the KATUSA spots in the US army.
That’s why I don’t honestly blame people who “dodge the draft” in some countries. Personal thoughts? If you can’t train recruits without routinely beating some to death, you can’t train recruits.
ROK is very brutal, very corporal.
Gang rape is why the Russian military was a hollow shell.
A redneck Texan had the best idea:
Mandatory boot camp to initiate the new adults-
But for militia, not military.
A 2 month term, paid, that gives them a small nest egg, joint discipline, and a common patriotic bond.
They would know they are adults now, not lost in continued adolescent punkery, and not dragooned into killing patriots of other nations.
I think almost every virtue has it’s overboard vice, and toughness is no exception. The dedovschina system in Russia is absolutely insane. It used to kill, I believe, 1000 recruits a year that we know about, not including other sources of death. Some of the stuff done to recruits was so dumbfoundingly awful it leads a sane man to want to reintroduce public executions for the perpetrators.
It’s the type of thing that only common sense overcomes, great soldiers have been produced without a psycho level of brutality.
Agree. Can’t train.
Let me walk back the comment on ROK- they are corporal, but not brutal.
The officers cane and punch the dickens out of the troops, but for disciplinary not sadistic reasons.
Tough bastids, they are.
The draft – equitably implemented – is a powerful vehicle for tribal cohesion, because you get to meet, live with and work with, people from all walks of life, every stratum of society. One of my friends did boot camp with the Danish crown prince.
Al, yes indeed. Not only would we get some trained militia, I’m betting the best would come out and join the standing army. Why not? The worse is behind them. Those initially afraid of leaving the “nest” have taken that step (albeit involuntarily) and many will have found it refreshing and lasting (as many did years ago with the draft and service during war time).
The South Korean military humiliates its men and subsequently they have fewer children while bowing to female demands.
The Swiss militia made its men look higher status (I actually am not sure if that’s 100% true) and they were able to resist the poz for longer.
I’d say that’s something worth looking into.
I’m not sure that Switzerland is so great: the percentage figures I’ve seen for foreign-born residents are pretty grim, and they’re not all financiers or millionaires. Some might remember this story from a few years ago about the costs imposed on a small village by just one Eritrean family: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2758055/Outraged-Swiss-village-1-000-residents-forced-raise-taxes-African-refugee-mother-seven-moves-costs-40-000-month-benefits.html
Right. Their national soccer team: half the names are Albanian.
The old classic George Romero zombie movies had a different symbolic valence than the ones today b/c they were made in 85 per cent White America — Romero himself thought he was making political satire where the zombies symbolized the middle class. (He wasn’t, but that’s what he thought.) But in the latter-day wave of zombie movies, chiefly The Walking Dead and the re-make of Dawn of the Dead and World War Z, the chief symbolic valence is not that the zombies want to kill you, it’s that they want to breach the walls of your stronghold and Get Inside.… Read more »
World War Z – excellent book, terrible movie that had nothing to do with the book other than the title.
Well, TWD also for a long time had a T-dog problem of killing off its black male supporting cast. The Romero films were satire about commercialism…the living finding refuge in a shopping mall. The problem with the disease cause or the genetic cause is “What’s the solution?” You would see an overnight flip on abortion rights were a gay gene ever found. I would bet a vaccine against gay behaviors would likely be banned in some way. Most modern horror reflects our collective fear that everything is spinning off the rails. The old 70’s horror films were about malevolence, like… Read more »
Whatever the disease of multiculturism is, it is being spread rapidly and deliberately. Guilted into attending Superbowl party after shunning an entire season of NFL. Game itself was insipid. Half time show was a paean to soy and negrolatry, utterly unwatchable. But the ads were the real disappointment. Unfunny, emotionally exploitative, anti-white propaganda. The worst was Bezos’ WaPo ad showing Oklahoma Fed building instead of WTC 9/11 for “terrorist attacks” on America. Fuck me. I have become an alien in the country of my birth.
The WaPo ad near the end of the game was stunning in its lack of self-awareness. Do the people putting this stuff out there really believe it? I don’t know which is worse, that they are dumb enough to believe it themselves, or that they are stupid enough to think that WE are dumb enough to believe it. Perhaps it is simply a message co-ordination effort on the part of their side.
Though I can appreciate the zombie apoc aspect of multiculturalism in its contagious and destructive nature, the model that not only fits perfectly but is in large part true is that of religion. When you throw out God, the human psyche goes into search mode. This was all done with (((intent))) of course. So once you’ve stripped people of God and community the human spirit cries out for purpose. In this stripped down state it is very easy, especially on a decades long time line, to plant the seed of the new faith. Anyone remember the 1990s. Ever think it… Read more »
Just so … without God, what foundation is there for confident moral behavior? Thus, they become “pathological in their altruism” in order to mask/hide/deny their godless destiny (Stalin, Mao) and the millions upon millions of dead that go along with it … Yet they have their millions of corpses and counting, piling up in the dumpsters behind Planned Parenthood and other such facilities.
We don’t have to merely speculate. Social evolution is now being modeled using the principles of evolutionary biology and Game Theory; augmented by the vast streams of empirical data flowing in from genetics research and social media. Short version of current insight . . . affluence has made hardship extinct, has undermined natural selection, has promoted and favored parasitic traits. As a species, we are becoming narrowly and solely adapted for a post-scarcity environment (anti-robustness). We are now hyper-vulnerable to a collapse scenario. Special note to Leftists . . . multiculturalism dies with the species. And these types of collapses… Read more »
Tom, interesting concept—except how fast can can a genetic trait “fix”. Would you say we were in trouble 100 to 200 years ago (4-8 generations)? If the cause is in our genes, then it’s been there for a long time. Epigenetic expression due to current environment? Then is the “cure” a reversal or reduction of the current environment, i.e., current abundance and leisure.
Instead of punishing ourselves, let’s just stop giving it all away for free, ok?
Over the past several thousand years of human history, it has always been the underclass, the poorest of societies, that resisted immigration the most stridently. The did this for good reason as newcomers were direct competitors for jobs, and they literally had a hard time keeping food on the table as it was. The welfare state changed all of this just after the war. A now satiated underclass on welfare is too lazy to put up a fight. Laziness has always been a trait of poor people, so they naturally fall into it, as they fell into the hammock of… Read more »
I’m always impressed with the awakening the abolitionist railroad magnates got when, after stirring up a war to free the saintly negro, getting 600,000 white men killed in the process, found out that they had to import Chinese men to work because negroes wouldn’t and couldn’t do the job they expected them to do, grateful for that new freedom.
Once that realization hit, “Reconstruction” ended and importing Eastern and Southern Europeans to work the mills became a priority.
That explains a lot, thanks PR!
If being a proponent of multiculturalism is a disease, then it started out only infecting those who spread propaganda and indoctrination, through movies, television, books, colleges, newspapers, political leaders, etc. The disease works on normal, everyday Americans and Europeans by (((those infected))) constantly hammering away at selling the virtues of diversity and the evils of whiteness. Eventually peoples’ defense mechanisms, such as logic and clear-mindedness, break down from the avalanche of propaganda.
We know the disease by various names. Atheism is one. More abstractly – materialism, positivism, scientism…
Some with this diease are resistant carriers – they infect others while themselves being immune; but mostly it makes people crazy, self-hating and suicidal.
The proof is that the Only groups in the world today that are Not willing their own extinction (voluntarily subfertile and/or actively replacing themselves) are religious and rejecting of materialism/ positivism/ scientism.
We know the disease by various names. Atheism is one.
Then why are Americans more susceptible to the disease than Europeans?
The Serb told me it’s because we can pick our religion. There, you’re born to it. No picking or choosing, it’s what you are, for life.
That is an interesting observation. I’ve always thought Americans were more religious because the churches competed on an open market. In most of Europe, the clergy are civil servants, with all the dynamism and efficiency characterizing bureaucrats all over the world. But my point was that Europeans are far more atheistic than Americans, yet are not nearly as pozed, at least not on the mainland. My theory is that the poz spreads via the English language, which is why Britain is number two in the poz superbowl, with Sweden (where English is almost a second national language) third, sharply pursued… Read more »
Interesting. I speculate that the thousands of african languages are a cultural barrier against disease; unfortunate for africans, because they prevent the spread of ideas.
English as a recently developed vector would reinforce the Z-possibility of an external, infectuous pathogen.
English as a recently developed vector would reinforce the Z-possibility of an external, infectuous pathogen.
How’s that? If it’s a physical pathogen, language wouldn’t be a barrier, but the Hungarians and the Poles seem almost immune.
It’s an Occam’s Razor-situation. There are multitudes of reasons why the West is sinking into cultural decrepitude, no need for mysterious viruses to explain things, at least not if you can’t demonstrate an epidemiologically sound distribution pattern.
Interesting observation about the English language. In what sense do you consider Americans to be more pozed than Europeans. It seems to me that many of our cultural cues come from Europe, not the other way around. Now one area where we could be rock bottom over here is the number of women who have illegitimate kids by multiple fathers. I’m not sure how prevalent that is in Europe.
In what sense do you consider Americans to be more pozed than Europeans. Where do I even start? You have SJWs running your universities, underage drag queens performing in gay nightclubs and on national television, you have illegal immigrants organizing and rallying in the streets, waving the Mexican flag and being supported by Congress-critters, you have Antifa breaking up right wing meetings with the connivance of the authorities, you have 72 genders, preferred pronouns, fat positivism, affirmative action, rules for Halloween costumes, mandatory gender indoctrination for college students, war on Christmas and, what baffles me most, you seem to have… Read more »
And just one more anecdote for the road. A Texas woman came here to teach English to high school students and wrote a blog about it. She related that she had asked the headmaster, if To Kill a Mockingbird would be appropriate for her students. The headmaster replied that he paid her to make such calls. The woman was over the top with excitement that Danish schools had enough confidence in their employees, that they’d let them decide which books were wholesome enough for their students to read. The thing is, I’m pretty sure she misunderstood him: He almost certainly… Read more »
I read Naked Lunch in High School in the US in the Late 70s, early 80s. Nobody thought anything of it. I remember reading a book about Hitler in 5th grade — serious historical stuff that included a lot of rare personal photos, not reflexive “Hitler bad” propaganda. I still remember that Hitler x’ed out one of the photos because he didn’t like how he looked in it. I think it showed him wearing glasses.
I appreciate the response. I’ve visited Europe more than a handful of times for relatively short periods, but I haven’t *lived* there. If PC culture really is less entrenched in Europe, hell, I may want to retire there. It seems to me a large part of what you are indicating is that our universities are more out of control, and that it has spilled over into corporate world. Regarding cultural cues: I was talking about broader trends, such as declining birth rates, cohabitation rather than marriage, teenage cellphone usage, etc. Seems to me that Sweden is at the vanguard for… Read more »
It seems to me a large part of what you are indicating is that our universities are more out of control, and that it has spilled over into corporate world. Just so. And into the media and entertainment as well. Seems to me that Sweden is at the vanguard for all of that stuff, not America. Could be. The welfare state paved the way for much of this, and Sweden had a full, three-ring welfare circus with all the dogs and ponies, long before the US. And a travel tip: if you ever visit Europe again, do yourself a favour,… Read more »
“And a travel tip: if you ever visit Europe again, do yourself a favour, rent a car and get the hell out of the metropolises as fast as you can. Outside the capitals, Europe is a tourist paradise from Bavaria to Sicily, and is virtually burka-free.”
Actually, next time I come over, I do plan to visit some places other than capitals. The thing about the capitals though is the architecture is so breathtaking. I love to sip on some beer at the outdoor cafes and marvel at architectural wonders.
Just don’t try, questioning anything about the Holocaust in Europe.
We were also less close to the edge. We could afford stupidity in a way continentals can’t. All Anglo Saxon nations are nations protected by the sea and/or fewer natural enemies. UK. US, AUS, NZ, CA are all protected by the ocean or only have one or less strong enemies on the border. It gives us time to think and leeway. The Spaniards couldn’t afford uncertainty, or the French, Germans, etc. Get caught slipping and the moors, the Russians, the ottomans etc. are going to be living in your houses. That’s why Scandinavia is similar. Geography impacts culture. Switzerland is… Read more »
We were also less close to the edge.
I beg to differ. America is 61% white, Western Europe is still +90%. America is the canary in the mine shaft, not Sweden or Germany.
America is number one in the poz superbowl.
America gave us affirmative action,the word “racism”, white guilt,micro-aggressions. Read the words of Alexander Hamilton and some of their other founding fathers where they talk about standing up to cruel Europe for the Asians and Africans. America from the very beginning was anti-European.
I would argue that Britain is further along than the USA, though not by much. All of those things were tried in Britain first, and then brought to the USA.
Hamilton also was against immigration…
https://amgreatness.com/2016/11/20/hamilton-on-immigration/
“To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they put foot in our country, as recommended in the Message, would be nothing less, than to admit the Grecian Horse into the Citadel of our Liberty and Sovereignty.”
Britain is arguably in the worst position, not demographically, but in terms of lacking any sort of cultural resistance to poz But the poz has not primarily been spread from Britain, it has been spread from occupied America. We like to pretend Hollywood, Langley Virginia and Washington D.C. are not part of America. And at some level, that’s true. But at another level, they technically are part of America. Of course, this isn’t really a call to blame ourselves, to some significant extent a rival ethno-religious group is responsible, but we have to really consider the seriousness of our position.… Read more »
Always glad to have you chime in Doctor Charlton! I’m afraid to say though the malaise is far more economic and crowding driven than spiritual Take the US White TFR , at 1.6 is lower than that of Atheist Sweden or the less religious UK which is about 1.8 or so. It nearly matches that of Germany Other than its most Orthodox forms, religion nationally has zero impact on fertility once a certain level of development is achieved. US Hispanics are at 1.8 now And as for say the LDS , while Utah is still above replacement, this rate has… Read more »
US white TFR is lower than you care to state: Americans count Afghanistanis and Arabs as white,Europeans don’t.
North Korea = strongly anti-immigration and 2.0 fertility rate, despite crippling sanctions
(1.89 in urban areas and 2.19 in rural areas )
Contrast with 1.15 TFR in South Korea in the same time period, or 0.96 today
96% of women in North Korea married by age 30 to 34
Not participating in Western culture and capitalism / neo-liberalism is arguably more important than religion
They still have below replacement fertility even at Western infant morality levels and only a tiny shade above Sweden
Given the nations food issues and probably higher infant mortality rate two kids per family is probably practically lower than the Western rate
No money, no babies even applies in North Korea which should tell people something.
Hey Bruce! Didn’t know you came here!
The decline is now visible because possibly the angle of repose has been hit and the landslide has commenced. Decline is not an either/or. Maybe 7 cards on the table, 15 cards, 52 card pickup and the slide commenced. I can see a number of problems (and a number I’m not even aware of but are there) that added together caused the house of cards to fall. Please, all chime in to the list. List is not in order of importance, just what pops in first: –a growing genetic mutational load, i.e. crappy immune systems not being culled –declining IQ… Read more »
The best way to quarantine this virus is to abandon (at least for now) the coastal cities. If we can concentrate our power and influence in places we can dominate then maybe we can stave off the spread of this virus. Our eventual minority status is a given. If we keep ourselves spread thin we continue to give ground. Understanding what’s going on is only step one. If we don’t separate physically from the worst areas, and there are more and more of them, we will wither away into smaller and smaller enclaves. We need our own turf. This is… Read more »
Sometime soon, your skin will truly become your uniform. In a nation with 500,000,000 guns. Over sixty percent of households don’t have $1000 in the bank. We aren’t printing our way out of the current debt trap. It seems to me we have two choices, debt jubilee or economic collapse. Maybe both. Maybe they manage to disarm us before the economic reality tidal wave washes us all away. Perhaps we turn into Brazil. Or we wind up in an all against all fight for survival in a post collapse hellscape. I’m just going to start calling Monday “blackpill day.” Also:… Read more »
A big part of the antidote to this disease will be Democratic Primary Season, featuring a big dose of diversity-loving, anti-white sentiment. For a sneak preview of coming attractions, watch the Dems’ response to Trump’s State of the Union speech from that fat black lesbian from Georgia, Stacey Abrams. At some point there’s going to be pushback from White America to the black, black, blackety-black. That’s coming soon.
We tend to fight back quietly at the ballot box. DMV voter registration and vote harvesting have it covered for them out here in CA.
The new polls show the Dems don’t care about public policy, they simply want a candidate that can beat Trump. Yet, anyone who voted for Trump is a racist hate-monger (I raise my hand). Trump voters are never, ever allowed to be people who simply would vote for anyone who would keep the Massachusetts/Little Rock harridan out of office.
“At some point there’s going to be pushback from White America to the black, black, blackety-black. That’s coming soon.” How much “black, black, blackety-black” will it take? Popular culture is almost 100 percent black; I’ve remarked before about shouting-negro music in grocery stores, FFS. The movie industry turns out one film after another about mean whites oppressing blacks. Members of Congress openly declare their anti-white venom. It won’t take much to slide into the South African States of America. There are complaints but very little you could call pushback. The only realistic possibility I can see is an inspirational leader… Read more »
Z Man; What an opportunity for bad-think speculation this post is_! But somewhat grounded speculation it is. For example, WRT a pathogen producing pathological altruism, or gum disease promoting Alzheimer’s, there is the recent precedent of the bacterium H pylori only recently being discovered as the actual cause of peptic and gastric ulcers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori I was a middle-aged adult when it was still commonly supposed that ulcers were stress-related (if not stress caused) and that their origin was otherwise mysterious. There was great resistance to the idea that it was bacteriological. Part of this was, no doubt, the glaring fact… Read more »
Simo Hayha was a Finn who did not welcome outsiders. Killed more than 500 Russians and known as The White Death. We could use more men like Simo
Simo was asked what he felt when killing all those invaders. His answer . . . recoil.
It’s hard to celebrate a white Christian man killing white Christian men. We should be teaching our people to #NeverAgain kill our own kind. #NeverForget should work just as well for whites as for the jews.
Absolutely, Never Again, and Never Forget what they took from us.
All of the Theys. We gave freely, and got what in return.
As brilliantly stated a day or two ago, will it give advantage to our People?
Maybe that’s the ‘pathogen’-
That we ask for nothing.
Over iron sights.
There was that study where they bombarded conservative voter’s brains with magnets and that made them more open to invasion. We all got a good chuckle about how Liberals are brain damaged.
It could be cell phones.
We should all nourish our acerbic personalities. Seems to be a vaccine
Gosh no. Two bumper stickers on the same car revealed the truth:
“Mean People Suck”
and underneath,
“Mean People Rule”
Egads.
We’re in Ghetto Queen World.
The virus is hiding in plain sight. Women’s suffrage. Also in plain sight: none of the invading cultures share the virus. Women were once the most important influence upon men. Now they are just more important. As a long dead white man once predicted “It is easy to see that, in this ambition to make the one sex equal to the other, both are demeaned and that, from this crude mixing of nature’s works, will emerge weak men and immodest women.” Switzerland was the last to crack in 1971, but the cracks are showing there now.
The media greatly influences the thoughts and feelings of most women. Who greatly influences the media? You’re mistaking a symptom for a cause.
Not that I’m a big fan of female suffrage.
You negated your own argument. If as you say women are easily infulenced, that makes the media only a symptom. Universal male suffrage is a great mistake. Female suffrage is grease on those rails.
There’s a simple explanation that fits the facts.
It’s more like a brain altering parasite than a disease, see the stuff about how different parasites will take over and manipulate the brain of their host,
Google “How Brain Worms Turn Ants into the Walking Dead”
Note that the ants TRY TO KILL THEMSELVES in order to complete the parasites life cycle
The vector is television and mass media
The culprits are a hostile tribe which has successfully used that new technology to promote their values, which are good for them, but destroy us
I watched the Super Bowl. The disease of Multiculturalism and its “zombie” victims are real. We are so f’ked.
I watched the last few minutes of the Super Bowl. There was no “there” there. The NFL is toast. I’d rather watch roller derby, to be honest.
I haven’t listened to Derb’s podcast in about a year and a half. For no reason. In my memory he started to sound a bit slow, raspy and tired. In the video Z linked to, he seems strong and eager. That’s really good to see. He’s 73. He’s overcome some serious health issues in the past. Looks good, sounds good.
A virus is interesting for speculation, but I think it’s a cultural byproduct of America’s cultural imperialism: with the decline of the church and organized religion, Hollywood movies have become the defining narrative of European civilization. The predominate moral concerns of these movies are 1) the holocaust and 2) white on black racism in its myriad iterations, slavery, Jim Crow, blm, etc. 3) and lgbtqw issues, to a lesser degree. Europeans exposed to this want to one up Americans spiritually. They say,”why are they so cruel to their blacks? If we had a minority like that, we would be kind… Read more »
Can’t agree more. The moralizers keep dreaming that they are more moral than that retrograde christiano-white culture.
For instance, instead of adopting a normal, whitish American orphan, they’ll adopt one or two Africans with congenital diseases from a war zone.
Top that, do-gooder! As if virtue were a competition.
That isn’t virtue. Competition for virtue in the traditional (Stoic) sense would be competition towards knowledge/wisdom, courage, temperance/moderation, and justice/morality.
“The rest of us … will have to find our own place to hold up [spelling; should be “hole up”] and rebuild.
Hiding in a hole isn’t enough,
you also have to plant seeds,
i.e. have lots of children.
Overreaching government along with the Marxists cultural or otherwise seem to be the Lyme disease of modern times. A pox on them.
I couldn’t watch it past a half hour due to the poz, but Bird Box on Netflix has a different take. People inexplicably start killing themselves after seeing some entity. Suicide of the West with a different take on it.
Yes, your take on the virus part of it is intriguing. Good as an explanation as any.
Just remember people, shots to the head ends it for those infected. Ammo up!
Z: “What possible reasons could a happy people like the Finns suddenly decided to destroy themselves by inviting in hostile foreigners from the other side of the globe? What’s causing this madness?”
One major factor is J3wish domination of worldwide media/entertainment. Many powerful J3ws feel implacable anger towards whites for the Holocaust and other historical grievances. Further, most diaspora J3ws feel more comfortable in a multiracial society. Therefore, J3ws use their media dominance to condition whites to regard white ethnocentrism as the ultimate evil and pathological openness as one of the greatest virtues.
Holo-cause is the ethnic version of Believe Her.
If my practices had led to the death of 200 million people, I’d want a damn good cover story too. Yeah, right, “atheism” did it. Just like Whitey McPrivilege.
A Lentivirus like HIV which destroys the immune system. Vox Day notes there are three pillars of Western Civilization – the European Nations, Graeco-Roman (I’d add Anglo-Saxon) philosophy and jurisprudence, but it was the third that disappered: Christianity. (True) Christianity is aggressively anti-multicultural. It tolerates a lot of superficial things, but is completely (I so want to say “anal”) intolerant about Sex. Vrginity until Marriage, Fidelity within. Widows can remarry but no Divorce. No polygamy. No Contraception (Includes Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Zwingle). No cousin marriage No lying or cheating. No alternative gods. Excommunication is ostracism on steroids. This is why… Read more »
Viewed in the context of a biological infection agent eventually killing its host, multiculturalism will, for various values of “killing.” Viewed in a related context, American importation of African slaves could prove to be the most expensive free labor the world has ever seen.
Arabs imported at least as many sub-Saharan Africans yet somehow there are almost zero blacks in their countries…
Arabs castrated the males.
10 million african slaves to the new world, only 400K to North America. Most went to the Caribbean and Brazil.
The records are spotty, but the slave trade into the middle east is in the 10s of millions. It began in the 7th Century and continues today.
What a mix, the best of both worlds. Gods help us.
Bantu and Bedouin both overran their territory, wiping out real genetic diversity.
My understanding is that fasting kills a lot of that bacteria; food for thought.
Having just come back from Helsinki can say with some sadness the country is changing. Wouldn’t say Finns are shy. More stoic and pragmatic. Or as I like to say it’s like visiting Planet Vulcan. Everything is based on logic and that’s not a bad thing because everything in Finland works. The government, the trains, the buses, etc. But that’s because until recently it has been a high-trust, homogeneous society. It is baffling to see the heavy influx of african and middle-eastern parasites. The funny thing is most Finns seem to ignore them. A few of the more desperate locals… Read more »
>As you mentioned Z white people don’t understand the severity of the situation
That’s the final destination of unrestrained egalitarianism absent critical thinking.
The “gay germ” theory was plausible, and until recently I even considered it the top contender, but new genetic research has all but disproved it. Male homosexuality is extremely likely to be due to a cluster of genes that improves reproductive fitness in moderation (horniness for women, handsomeness for men) but at the extreme end results in female promiscuity and male homosexuality. It’s the “dick lovin’ gene” for both sexes. “Pathological altruism”, AKA low negative ethnocentrism, is almost certainly genetic in origin as well. We even know the genes that are responsible for ethnocentrism. As for why it could develop… Read more »
The possibility of a genetic predisposition to pathological altruism makes me think of the Russian fox experiments. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2016/09/14/russian-experiment-breeds-domesticated-foxes/. It didn’t take all that many generations for the scientists to change the nature of the population they were dealing with. This would probably be no surprise to people who breed animals for a living. Or people who breed plants, for that matter. Given the changes in mating habits briefly mentioned in the Discovery article, it looks like the Russian scientists were on their way to producing a new species (given that the usual definition of species includes ‘… that breed readily… Read more »
Had a chance to watch TV this week.
All this marketing to the black demographic. What, are they the biggest spenders?
(PS- the Superbowl halftime show was excreble. Clumsy, disjointed, appealing to no one instead of everyone. Yup, it’s dead, not resting.)
Non Cuck Whites are aging out of network TV and football too. Got to find people where you can
Football wise the President said he wouldn’t want his son to play football these days at a Superbowl interview. That’s big and goes beyond Generation Single Mom’s concerns
That said the football is civic nationalism thing is an artifact of the 1960’s like the Beatles and Flower Power and could go out with them.
NFL will be around a while but its going to return to its natural state, one sport among many
What if this is just the nature of populations? That we we might not be different from other species despite higher intellect? While certain of the population is infected with “multicultural disease”, the other portion seems to have “I’m not getting involved despite the fact I can see and recognize what’s going on” disease.
Frustrating.
Yep. Apathy is a vice.
One small observation: I am a member of an older age-group sports group, who join together to play football (soccer, if you must) with certain age restrictions. One of the club members however has successfully persuaded the ‘leaders’ of the club to accept someone much younger into the group on the basis of ‘social care’ as the lad once took drugs and was heading for some dark place. This older club member belongs to a church, and it is apparent he sees getting someone in to a closed age group who has enormous advantages of a greater fitness that comes… Read more »
Feminism is the vector.
Neurotic yentas ruined honest feminism. Men aren’t always angels, or Muslims would’ve been first on the Moon.
Williams Syndrome – Tin foil hats be dammed! Deep inside the laboratories of (()), Williams Syndrome has been genetically altered and unleashed on the western world. Now I need to go to my government job and welcome more diversity!
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/magazine/08sociability-t.html
I did enjoy John Ringo’s “Black Tide Rising” zombie series as it was written from a serious military perspective.
I like it! I still think, though, that evo-psych is the culprit. No organism is built to handle threat-less environments, and it’s obvious we’ve built one. Look at the record-breaking bout of Global Warming that just hit the Midwestern US. Very few people died, and when you dig down into it, those people had to work very, very hard to get killed. Our systems are built to optimize environmental stress, to learn and grow from it. If we don’t have sufficient stress in our natural environment, we’ll simply manufacture some… and say what you will about the Vibrants, they certainly… Read more »
This links with the “cat parasite” that causes some form of mental problems, IIRC. So the “cat lady” phenomenon is self-reinforcing.
A reasonable idea should be to put a punitive tax on pet ownership by the unmarried. Ideally we’d go after women only, but making it applicable to both genders and possibly even the married could be snuck in through an environmentalist message.
In LeftySpeak, cats and dogs have white privilege that should be dedicated to feeding starving (err…obese) Central Americans.
I have one cat and in the past as many as six at one time (rescues) and I was dissident right before there was a dissident right, largely due to the late, great Sam Francis, Joe Sobran and Chronicles magazine.
@DeBeers:
That sounds like a good idea in theory, but I too am diss ide nt right and a big fan of animals: big dogs that can be trained, like Dobermans. And I happen to be unmarried.
So it’d be a very unpleasant experience for Ris and me to be taxed because we happen to be animal lovers, and also happen to be female members of the diss ide nt right.
It’s an extreme measure, to be sure. It could be targeted at urban areas where our people shouldn’t be living, while exempting rurals.
A similar effect might be possible if our people were as diligent as the other side in boycotting Starbucks and friends.
What’s with the “diss ide nt” thing?
Once you’re found posting here you don’t get additional social credit points deducted for using the d-word.
DeBeers,
I think the cultural Marxist oppression has driven you a little mad. Fight back through taxing pet ownership by the unmarried? What next, reinstate laws against witchcraft?
Try this on for size: Anonymous Conservative: “The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics: How Conservatism and Liberalism Evolved WIthin Humans”. In evolutionary biology there is a well-founded theory of how species and elements within species adopt different survival strategies depending on whether resources are scarce or abundant: the “r/K Selection Theory”. {r and K refer to parameters in an equation that is used in the math part, where r refers to reproductive rate, and K refers to the carrying capacity of the environment. So called “r-strategists” operate as if resources are so abundant there is no need for competition or cooperation,… Read more »
The old way of dealing with communicable diseases makes sense. Separate the infected from the healthy where they will do no harm.
Like Vito Corleone in Godfather II.
If there is no cure, we can have an open range area in Westchester County with a high fence where they can drink tea and bitch about Trump. Just quarantine them until the threat is over.
There was a time when the average American man weighed 145 pounds and drank 6-7 drinks a day. Many outbreaks of alcoholism really do seem like epidemics, and were often casually called as such, but taking it literally wasn’t considered.
There was also the collapse in attention span in the late 19th century. For some reason, attention spans peaked when everyone wanted to watch 3+ hour long epic operas, and within a single generation simple ragtime piano bits became the most popular music.
Some of these cycles have to have biological explanations. They’re just too extreme.
Even though environment doesn’t explain everything, maybe it explains some things.
GKC used that as evidence that the immediate ancestors of the British were far more intelligent. Scots Presbyterians we’re capable of following a sermon all the way to “seventeenth and lastly…”
Zombies, vampires, werewolves, etcetera are returned from the dead. Think of this as another hook whereon to hang popularization of cremation. The next step is to look at use of crematoria as dictators’ playthings, from Phalaris and his brazen bull from BCE times, through revolutionary repression of the Vendee in the XVIII century, through the proceedings of the CheKa up to the executions of Pyotr Popov (December 1958) and Oleg Penkovski (17 MaY 1963).
The various European groups in the Americas were becoming a new people, the Americaaner in the North, and more Spanish-Mediterranean in the South. That has been disrupted. This new, strange, feminized branch seems to come from two technologies: long-chain molecular chemistry as a pollutant, and message programming as an accelerant. As Al d’North says, widespread antibiotics and hormones- I agree, and they can be measured. I would put psychiatic medication and unpure illegal synthetic drugs above those. We have no diagnosis for brain chemistry, yet legal and a few illegal substances are as present as medical and industrial pollutants. Our… Read more »
Chemicals may have some impact and many of them need to go, however Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome had the same social problems and they weren’t caused by lead. An excessively urban society will die with automation speeding it up in modernity The solution is largely economic, stable jobs in smaller towns so people can organically build culture. This will require stewardship though and levels of control over economic development that our culture with some justification fears. if we don’t though, we’ll die back till only the most religious continue and the jobs meet the population. Just remember though, there… Read more »
Richard Matheson is a literary source and prophesy for so much of what is going on these days. His writing is not “good” in the literary sense, but his various writings are the seed of so much modern relevant storytelling. To the extent that the old “Twilight Zone” series was a lodestar for thoughtful video storytelling, Rod Serling built the series on the shoulders of Matheson’s written work. Matheson is so much more relevant today (IMHO), about the actual human condition we perceive ourselves as living in, than are other, more capable writers such as Bradbury or Heinlein, which were… Read more »
Such viruses don’t necessarily have to be biological in nature. Maybe there’s a physchological ‘layer’ that we can’t see where such ideas travel and infect hosts, in a similar way that memes travel around.
Multi-culturalism is the absence of culture. When the absence of kinship becomes the underlying philosophy of your society then it stands to reason you would think the whole world is your family. Your then previiously exclusive attitude ‘flips’ and is used against you.
It’s called peer pressure, the Overton window, and social currency.
There’s a great sci-fi novel described there. Wish I had the time to tackle it.
Multi-culturalism is the latest version of the Messiah complex.