Too Corrupt To Fail

In all of the big institutional scandals, there is always a question that rarely gets addressed and that is, how did it go on for so long? By the time the thing starts to become public, the number of people involved, either actively or passively, has reached a point where it became impossible to hide. In some cases, the issue at the heart of the scandal just became a normal thing to the people inside the institution. For some mysterious reason, no one raised the alarm until much too late.

The best example of this is the Catholic Church scandal. By the time the story of the homosexual priests was public, the Church was infested with them. The lavender mafia had taken over whole orders. The number of pederasts had reached a point where moving them around the system was just a part of the administration. As people started asking questions and making claims, the system rallied to defend itself, without much thought about what it was defending. The corruption was systemic.

Something similar protected Jewish perverts like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein from being exposed. In both cases, lots of people knew these men were involved in degenerate activities, but no one dared say it publicly. In the case of Weinstein, the excuse was that outing him would be bad for the career. In the case of Epstein, the excuse was he had dirt on powerful people. No one knows if that is true. It’s one of those just-so answers to avoid having to think much about it.

It seems that corruption has a dynamic that starts with the first flexing of the rules that are supposed to control the institution. Somewhere along the line, it becomes expedient to overlook some minor infraction. Like a cancer, the exception making starts to spread through the system. At first, a small number of people are breaking rules and tolerating the rule breaking. As each new person learns of the practice, he is a smaller minority relative to the set of rule breakers. Thus he is less inclined to oppose it.

At first it is a handful of senior people, for example, involved in some sort of minor shenanigans that violates the spirit of the rules. The first person to learn of it is faced with taking on that cabal of senior people. Alternatively, the rule breakers are junior people, but their bosses look the other way, because they have other political interests or they are just too lazy to address it. Either way, the potential whistle blower is always outnumbered. That alone is often enough of a discouragement.

At some point, another dynamic kicks in. Those who cannot tolerate the corruption, but lack the courage to do anything about it, are boiled off. They move on, leaving behind a mix of cowards and corrupt. Of course, the corrupt flock to corruption, so the institution becomes a magnate for the type who like rule breaking. Before long, you go from a system where rule breaking is not tolerated and the rule breakers fear exposure, to a system where rule breaking is normalized and rule enforcers fear exposure.

The best example of this is the rotten police precinct. In every case, the corruption begins with a small number of cops. The good cops try to do something about it, but run into lazy or fearful superiors, who refuse to address the issue. Those cops either move on or find a way to justify their silence. Other cops either tacitly support the bad cops or justify their willful blindness in some way. Before long, the rotten precinct becomes an organism with its own immune system and defense mechanisms.

Put another way, the corrupt organization or system becomes too corrupt to fail, as everyone has some reason to protect it. For some at the heart of the corruption, the reason is obvious, but all around them are people who fear being shamed for having said nothing or fear being implicated for having looked the other way. The fallacy of the sunk cost becomes an operating principle. Everyone assumes there can be no turning back, so the corruption accelerates until eventually it does collapse.

This dynamic of corruption is something to consider when trying to sort out the many scandals engulfing Washington. For eight years, the media was celebrating the fact that there were no major scandals under Obama. They never said it, but there were no big scandals under Bush. The Scooter Libby stuff was the only thing that approached major scandal status and that was only because the press was bored. Otherwise, it was just eight years of partisan howling about trivial matters.

Yet, Trump hits town and the city is hit with a tsunami of front page scandals. The fact that most are hoaxes and the rest are scandals those hoaxes are intend to obscure, suggests something about the system. It sees Trump as not only a foreign body, but a threat by reason of being a foreign body. He’s the new precinct captain taking over a rotten precinct or the new bishop with a reputation for piety. The defense mechanism of the corrupt organization just assumes virtue is a vice that must be expelled.

This would explain why the whole system seems to have reorganized itself to defend even the pipsqueaks in the system. Andrew McCabe should be a perfect fall guy, as he is high profile enough to be a nice trophy, but not so high up as to be important to anyone in politics. Yet, he has been funneled millions of dollars by the system, through jobs and speaking fees. His legal defense fund quickly filled up with millions of dollars from Washington lobbyists. The system wants him safe.

Something similar is happening with the fake whistle blower story. The system saw that Trump people were looking into the Biden stuff. Instinctively the system responds with the fake whistle blower, so the democrats can bellow about impeachment, rather than defend Joe Biden. Why not just let this very corrupt old man go down in flames so Warren can be the nominee? The thoroughly corrupt organization lacks the ability to sacrifice any part of itself, so it instinctively defends the whole.

This video of Rudy Giuliani talking about the Biden corruption is interesting for a number of reasons. One is the level of corruption. It does appear China bought Joe Biden, while he was Vice President. Putting that aside, Giuliani seems to be realizing, as he is talking, that Washington is just like the organized crime he prosecuted back when he was making a name for himself in New York. It is an organism whose purpose, in addition to the corruption, is to defend itself against exposure.

Back during the mortgage crisis, the expression “too big to fail” became a catchphrase for justifying government support for the banks. Something similar is at work in Washington, in that it is too corrupt to fail. It’s not that so many people depend on politics as usual. It’s that the graft and corruption is so wide spread, no one thinks they can afford even a little exposure. The business of Washington is now concealing the fact it is thoroughly rotten. The business of the empire is organized crime.


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Deuce
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1. The Catholic church scandal had NOTHING to do with homosexuality. Rather it is an indictment on an evil institution that for a long time has done great perfidy and evil. 2. Trump is FINISHED. This is it. We have proof of him COLLUDING with a foreign country to steal elections. Giuliani’s now openly flaunting the lawlessness of the Trump regime, led by a guy who’d be in jail w/o a lawless AG & banana Republicans. AND Rudy is BULLYING a country at war, who needs US support to keep Russia from killing even more Ukrainians. It’s all so profoundly… Read more »

Willie T
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Willie T

A “deuce” in my neck of the woods is a hot, steaming pile of s***! That is EXACTLY what your above comment is!!

Jeff Kent
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Jeff Kent

Giuliani’s now openly flaunting the lawlessness of the Trump regime, led by a guy who’d be in jail w/o a lawless AG & banana Republicans. AND Rudy is BULLYING a country at war, who needs US support to keep Russia from killing even more Ukrainians. It’s all so profoundly wrong

Don
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Don

SMH silly.

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I’m reading a book called Sorry, Wrong Number by John Brignell. He was a scientist and engineer in the UK for his whole career and retired early to write this book in 2000 about the misuse of statistics and numbers by Academia and the media that are used to manipulate the populace. I’m going to quote something from the very beginning of the book. “I knew things were pretty bad out there but the sheer extent of deliberate cold-blooded abuse shook me” His second book, The epidemiologist have they got the scares for you! Is much angrier. I highly recommend… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Since Trotsky’s literal granddaughter heads the NIH, the second book is certainly important!

The “over-vaccination now, over-vaccination forever!” crowd is a good example of today’s Z-post about instinctive defense.

An authority introduces some policy, and sometimes it takes and is immediately enshrined. Not because people are stupid (I don’t think they are, being quite stupid myself), but because we don’t have time to sort out the 1,001 competing claims.

I’m in the ‘too much of a good thing’ and ‘first, do no harm’ camps, so I suspect everything we’re told.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

I’m sure my dead Trot parents are waving from the grave to the granddaughter of Lev Davidovich. I’ve yammered this many times. They don’t stop! A couple years ago I got to poking around in some memories. Back in the early 50’s, I remember my folks driving on a very dark stormy night across the Dumbarton Bridge into the hills somewhere around Woodside. They paid a visit to Joan London, daughter of Jack London, member of CPUSA. Got to wondering…..What the hell were my parents doing driving on such a rotten stormy night when they rarely went out at night?… Read more »

Member

When did you take the red pill? And what got you to that point? And when? I’m assuming, like me, you’re in your early 70s.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Seriously…you wish to know? Not just platitudes? Not used to people being interested. If you do I won’t write an epic. Am in late 60s and chick canny about age…just to draw out the conversation…with humor..!.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

FWIW I’d also be interested to know.

Lineman
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Lineman

RFF
Regale us with your tale Dear Lady I too would like to know…

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Okay….Both parents were gone 2 years before 9/11. I lived the upside down Lefty family pyramid. No parents, aunt-uncle-cousin gone, daughter only one left and she just loves me and I love her so when I shifted she paused, wondered what the hell was up, we talked, and she went for the ride with me. No other close relatives to have a lousy Thanksgiving Dinner with made this easier. Friends were aging stoner nitwits and I was bored shitless with them and they were annoying. Still miss the old friends pattern but don’t miss their bullshit. 15+ years later my… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Thank you for sharing that I’m glad you are on our side…

3g4me
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3g4me

Thank you for sharing your story, Range Front Fault. While my parents weren’t literal commies/trotskyites, they were typical lefty liberals and my journey was somewhat similar to yours (although it wasn’t property ownership that first woke me up but rather travel/living overseas). Like you, although I feel, I think and reason and accept almost nothing on someone else’s say so. And now, at almost 61, I am less inclined to put up with normie BS than ever. Must be a genetic anomaly we share!

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So Trump is Serpico. So be it as it seems to many to be what you say here, that this is pretty much analogous to mafia rule and corrupt police.

The chutzpah on display by Trump’s enemies is astounding , even now. To be the one complicit in major graft, crime, and shakedowns of foreign governments and to somehow turn it all back on Trump is really hard to believe. Either they are really scared or feel extremely confident in their power and rule.

Ayatollah Rockandrollah
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They are pointing to Trump wanting to investigate them and using his own words — essentially, “I’m hitting back now” — as the prima facie evidence for removing him from office. They want the public to do their work for them: “Trump’s going to punish us,” they’re saying — “punish him first.” All legal, all within the power of the executive branch — as if that matters at this point. Seems to me like we’re reaching a terminus. If Trump can’t get anyone below him to start exacting justice for the last 2.5 years (Bagpipes Barr, for example) then he… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

With regards to yesterday’s Butterfield column, it was young Hillary who made her bones with the “18 missing minutes”, wasn’t it?

Member

One of the Hildebeast’s colleagues on the staff of the House Judiciary Committee’s Watergate probe was none other than the odious Bill Weld.

Ayatollah Rockandrollah
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Weld is a fruitcake. Absolutely bonkers in the Linc Chaffee mold. That’s why they never keep him on air for very long.

Too bad for us that John Silber — who almost beat him in 1990 for governor in Mass — couldn’t keep his temper in check for another few weeks. We would’ve been spared this incompetent old pothead.

DAN III
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DAN III

“Almost” only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes !

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Weld is a boozer as well and his face shows it.

Ayatollah Rockandrollah
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Yep. The Clintons and their entourage have the offensive playbook on impeachment (from Watergate) and the defensive playbook (from 1998-1999). This is all going to follow the protocols established in those manuals.

george
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george

At this point it should be obvious to even the most dim witted that the intel agencies are ran by democrats/neocons and cannot be trusted. Yet we are to take their word explicitly that Iran was behind the attack on the KSA oil processing facility and that Iran imperials the world with their nuclear weapons program. Well all that could be true but how do we know? More importantly how does the President know? Perhaps the CIA could show Trump the satellite photos of the nuclear weapons Iran is producing. Oh wait. They did that in Iraq almost forgot. Like… Read more »

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The transformation of the media has allowed the corruption to go unchecked. The media used to be left-wing hacks, but now….it goes way beyond that. And now we have joint FBI-Google entities like CrowdStrike who seems to exist to obscure the data trail of the corruption…

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

In my NormieCon days, I would look around and think “Why is this happening?!?!?!”

A few redpills later, I just see Jews acting in a way that advances their in-group interests. I don’t like it any better, but at least it makes sense now.

Member

You forgot the s/off at the end of your comment.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Good shot. Crowdstrike is the heart, it’s at the center of the web.

Dutch
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Dutch

The trouble is, in the shitstorm the Powers That Be have created, you could find the Crowdstrike evidence that it was Seth Rich not the Russians, that Google is a pawn of the Chinese, that Facebook wants you dead, all 33,000 of Hillary’s purged classified e-mails, all of the graft and theft associated with the Clinton Foundation, and even that Pizzagate is real, and the powers will shrug and say “so what”, and the normies will march along, NPC style. It doesn’t matter, people. The world is not just and it is not fair. Sorry, I am being ranty.

One of Many Georges
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One of Many Georges

Yeah, seeing that the media has zero independence and zero integrity has really been an eye-opener for me. Now I think of the establishment as “Cathedral FC” (= Football Club). They’re all on the same team, playing for the same goal. Media organizations are the strikers, Jewish billionaires are the central midfielders, Antifa is the left winger, the educational establishment is the right winger, shitlib normy is the left back, brainwashed NPC student is the right back, the FBI and CIA are the two central backs, and the left-wing parties are the goalkeeper. They’re all working together, coordinating their attacks.… Read more »

DLS
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DLS

Plus, their team is allowed to have an additional 5 illegal players on the field.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I’m allergic to sports, but by my whiskers, you’ve discovered the great secret-
How To Reach the Normies!

Explain these maneuvers as game plays, which allows Mr. Couch to see them and add in his own insights, and he is all yours!

Great Scott! What a breakthrough!

Michaeloh
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Michaeloh

Every now and then, like today for example, I am reminded of the Christian’s most important insight: we are a sinful, fallen, evil race. Thanks Z.

Hoyos
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Hoyos

“Original sin is the one doctrine with thousands of years of empirical evidence.” GK Chesterton

Anotheranon
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Anotheranon

No one was the slightest interested in the illegality of son’s portfolio – until it could be used to break someone else’s career.

That’s where we’re at now. Illegality is of no interest unless it is useful as a tool for advancement.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

The Biden stuff is pure corruption, but what’s also going on is agents, politicians and media doing illegal things and covering it up for the cause that they believe in. And if they get a bit of kickback for their efforts all the better.

They are discarding the rules not just because they are corrupt but because they believe that we are evil and the rules don’t apply to evil people. It’s like how people who don’t believe in the death penalty say that, yes, if they could go back in time, they would kill Hitler in 1932.

The Babe
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The Babe

Psychology has a very useful concept, “moral licensing.” It (roughly) means that if you think you’re good, it gives you a license to be bad.

Political leftism institutionalizes pathological moral licensing. They work so hard to convince themselves that they’re good–and that, therefore, nothing they do is bad.

Convincing yourself that your viciousness is virtue–that way lies destruction without end.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

“Political leftism institutionalizes pathological moral licensing. They work so hard to convince themselves that they’re good–and that, therefore, nothing they do is bad.” This is a key insight. But I would suggest that “Leftism” is not the root, RESENTMENT is. Leftism is based in huge part on resentment. Postmodernism views the world as composed of only oppressors and oppressed, and oppression leads to suffering which leads to resentment. Similarly, if your cultural touchstones and religious ceremonies are based on tales of suffering and victimhood (from Pharaoh through Hitler, and even today, as we speak!) then you are primed for resentment.… Read more »

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Mike;
Agree about resentment. There’s a good reason why prohibition of envy and covetousness is included in the Ten Commandments.

Anna
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Anna

Socialism violates 2 commandments: don’t covet and don’t steal (taxes). Those who claim to build communism proceed to violate the 3d: murder with impunity because they covet and proceed to steal (100% tax on wealth).

DLS
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DLS

I quoted this above, but makes sense here as well: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C. S. Lewis

The Right Doctor
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The Right Doctor

Hatred burns out – you can’t keep the flame on high all the time. But resentment smolders along, ready and eager to leap into flames at perceived affronts. And the resentful are all about perceiving affronts. Resentment is the devil’s most powerful tool, as many people seem to be diabolically susceptible to it. I think I resent what might have been more than anything else. Just project: 66 years from Kitty Hawk to Tranquility Base. What did we think would happen in our lifetimes, those like me who remember the moon landing as children? What happened was we started paying… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Per the oft-quoted Mr. Lewis, they won’t quit because they haven’t *fixed* you yet.

William Williams
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William Williams

As per 1984’s O’Brien.

Our current enemies just might settle for grovelling obedience, but their highest good is the eradication of any dissenting thought.

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

The moral licensing you are referring to is exactly how one behaves toward his enemies during war. And what is politics other than low-intensity war?

Communists know what they are doing. Non-communists rationalize.

Member

“The ends justify the means” playbook.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Years of multiculturalism invariably led to cognitive dissonance. In response they’ve simply discarded all the rules. Where there are no rules, there are no hypocrites. Voila! All neanderthals believe in principles but fall short of them, thus they are hypocrites. Progressives on the other hand believe in nothing, which makes them enlightened.

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

Communists believe in power. They suffer setbacks, but win in the end. We are led by empty suits and fail. I think it’s long past time to turn that dynamic around.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
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Nunnya Bidnez, jr.

(One faction of) the Ukrainians were just bribing Obama and Biden, when they hired Biden’s son. Another faction wanted to investigate those ties. Biden called them and said .. Drop the investigation, or we withhold money we’ve earmarked for you. They said ..Who authorized you?.. Biden says ..Call Obama ask him. Now Trump comes in and says .. Why don’t you reopen those investigations? The media is portraying this as Trump trying to get Ukraine to influence the next election; actually he is just trying to help Ukraine bring (their) people to justice, as well as having them help us… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

As to Ukraine, are they still functioning as two countries, a Ukrainian-speaking west and a Russian-speaking east, a la East-West Germany?

The Obama crew was trying create a Ukrainian Spring; Hillary simply repeated her Balkan war strategy in the Arab Spring.

Ant Man Bee
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It’s a perpetual source of amusement to me that people always want to travel back in time and murder Baby Hitler, thinking they’d save the world.

It never occurs to them that they might wind up instead with Much More Competent Alternative Hitler, who would be capable of actually conquering the world and not screwing it up with zany decisions.

Of course, if you REALLY wanted to prevent WWII, you’d travel back in time and murder Baby Churchill instead.

DLS
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DLS

Whenever someone says they wished had done something differently, I always say if they had done it differently, they might be dead right now. It could be something as simple as getting the redo exactly right, but driving home at a slightly different time and getting hit by a drunk driver. There is no going back, only forward.

Rimbaud
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Rimbaud

Roosevelt would be a better bet.

Ant Man Bee
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Actually, if you really, /really/ wanted to prevent WWII through time travel, first you’d travel back in time and murder Baby Churchill and Baby FDR. Then you’d figure out how to get Lindbergh elected president (wouldn’t have been so hard, really.). Then you’d travel even further back in time and slaughter all the Schiffs and the Rothschilds.

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Anna
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Anna

If so many Schiffs, Rabinowitses and Rothschilds had not been murdered we would probably have conquered cancer, Alzheimer and other ghastly deceases.

Donald Cavaioli
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You forgot the House of Morgan, J.P. the father of the federal reserve.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Late, but turns out JPM only owned 19% of his assets, the Roths owned the rest, and him.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

How come nobody wants a go at baby Lenin or baby Stalin?

(Lenin had a sudden aneurysm, leaving his right-hand man, Stalin, holding the reins.)

DLS
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DLS

“How come nobody wants a go at baby Lenin or baby Stalin?”

Or baby Mao? Men of the left is why. But so too was Hitler when you think about it. Liberals are quick to point out Hitler was a “national” socialist, without even knowing what the difference is.

Anna
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Anna

Lenin had syphilis.

DLS
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DLS

Actually, you would murder Woodrow Wilson. The US tilting the scales from what had become a stalemate in WWI is what caused WWII.

Ant Man Bee
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The problem with trying to murder Baby Woodrow Wilson is that Wilson was never a baby. He was born an old, withered, dreary, vinegar-drinking scold.

TomA
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TomA

The Soviet Union was an example of this insidious type of cancerous corruption taking hold on a national scale, and it’s happening again right here right now in accelerating slow motion. An actual palace coup against a duly elected president has been playing out over nearly 3 years now, and not one single Bad Guy has even been arrested, let alone prosecuted, or held to account. The rule of law is dead. A new paradigm is needed. The cohort of honest citizens is shrinking fast. We either reverse course soon or bottom out and rebuild from the ashes.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

We’re not going to reverse course. The demographics won’t allow it. What’s more, even within the whites, the Goodwhites and Deplorable Whites are reaching the “divorce” stage where we’re tired of arguing with each other and just want out.

John Smith
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Agreed. But up above, The Babe made an excellent point about moral licensing. Their will be no peaceful divorce. Once you license one immorality, licensing bigger ones gets easier and easier. The left has weaponized and industrialized moral licensing; I will bet Weinstein and Epstein are the tip of the scandal iceberg, and that the really big stuff is still securely submerged. The monsters in those depths need not only our productivity, they need us to ensure a continuous supply of it because they can’t furnish it themselves. I’m guessing the left with it’s diverse and vibrant masses will have… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“vibrant masses will have the license for war ”

Yes- they have their priests and their ‘gospels’, now they are bringing in troops and calling to the faithful. Soon they will purge Sin from this world.

Their rightful reward? The loot, the lands, but most of all, the girls. Our girls are the highest prize in the known universe.

DLS
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DLS

Even if they weren’t liberal welfare recipients to begin with, the imported browns are used to corrupt governance and just assume it’s normal.

The Babe
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The Babe

The left understands political theater. They love hearings, for example, because they make people look guilty. Normies just think “ooh, some guy sat in front of a bunch of angry judges. He must have done something bad. He must be bad.”

If there are any good guys left at all, they have to perpwalk some of these coup-plotters in orange jumpsuits, in order to shatter their halo in front of the public.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“shatter their halo”- a perfect phrase

James O'Meara
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James O'Meara

Once more, the Alinsky Rule (always accuse your opponent of what YOU are doing) is verified. Remember two days ago, when the Dems were claiming that the transcript showed Trump using code, “like the mob”? I’m still scared to make it an iron clad rule for understanding everything, but the amount of times applying the Rule (assume they are doing what they’re accusing others of doing) is remarkable. BTW, read In the Closet of the Vatican. The rule there is: the more sternly, openly, violently anti-homosexual a bishop or cardinal, the more openly flaming behind the scenes. The homophobia isn’t… Read more »

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Agree on the analogy to the Catholic Church. Had several colleagues that managed the abuse litigation against various dioceses well before this became regular headline news. The church was adept at keeping a “cell” structure that even rope-a-doped the insurers that were obliged to defend them from ever seeing the full picture. Priests “disappeared” when depositions needed to be taken, records “disappeared” or couldn’t be found, parishioners were “advised” not to speak to defense counsel….was virtually impossible to put together a complete picture even at the parish level. But rather like bird flocking, this was simply a natural and unconscious… Read more »

Pursuvant
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Pursuvant

Very interesting topic again today. It raises for me the classic fear and desire dynamic that you find everywhere in philosophy and mythological storytelling of the nature of man, the nature of the finite mind.

If you lose your center, that place where you are operating in the world without fear or desire, you are doomed.

Member

Sam, how pervasive do you think priestly pederasty was?

Do you doubt that the ((( media ))) exaggerated its prevalence?

Do you doubt that the ((( media ))) has long had a hard-on for the Catholic church?

Do you doubt that the ((( media ))) almost always refuses to distinguish pedophilia from hebephilia and ephebophilia with regards to allegations lodged against Catholic priests?

That there is and has been corruption in the Catholic church is one thing; the frequency of heterosexual prelates sodomizing six and seven year olds is another. The former is unassailable, the latter, rare.

Compsci
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Compsci

Libertymike, the MSM also refuses to place the blame where it belongs, homosexual predation in the church. Write ups are also such that one is lead to believe heterosexual predation is at least as common as homosexual predation. The church has a homosexual priest problem, yet some of my relatives (normies) will claim that the solution is to allow priests to marry, rather than require celibate service.

Member

Agreed.

Whether father sodomized a six year old or pinched the rear end of a 17 year old parish youth counselor at the annual summer parish outing, he was not jerking off to pin-ups of Rita Hayworth.

Donald Cavaioli
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Have you ever read Bella V Dodd’s book “School of Darkness”? The left, according to her, planned to put homosexuals into the church to do precisely what we see today.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Managing this stuff wasn’t my side of the business. But knew the attorneys and litigation specialists that ran these cases well—mostly homosexual—and from the volume and breadth of cases, pretty damned pervasive. And this was before the dam broke on reporting. And before insurers added “abuse and molestation” exclusions, so there was an obligation to, at minimum defend under reservation of rights. One funny thing, a colleague looked at the association of Reformed synagogues (UHCC), their data was almost exclusively allegations of rabbis banging the neglected wives of the congregants.

Dutch
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Dutch

In my experience, the individual priestly perverts (and their attorneys) did a great job of avoiding actual prosecution and for hiding their personal financial assets from claim. The bag holders on the penalties were the dioceses themselves, meaning the individual small givers and the legit programs.

Member

Knowing the pervasiveness of the propaganda promulgated by the #me too mafia, the SPLC, the ADL, LGBTQ, NOW, third and fourth wave legal feminism, and various and sundry race hustlers and poverty pimps and abuse advocates, what is one to think?

My guess is that insurance defense counsel and litigation support staff are overwhelming normie, if not cucked, or worse, outright proggie.

DLS
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DLS

I believe it was a Penn State study that showed the rate of inappropriate sexual conduct in the Catholic church involved approximately 5% of priests. That is the same rate as ministers or rabbis of almost every other denomination, and lower than the overall male population, which has a rate of 8%. Male public school teachers come in at 10%, but you never hear about that. I also agree it’s more of a homosexual problem than a pedo problem. Funny how you never hear of a priest abusing young girls.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I think most had the Vatican’s gold on their mind.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Saml; Interesting in a bad way because it indicates active deception directed from above: At the top even. Ordinary compartmentalization would be penetrable once the crooked cell (crooked precinct, etc.) is identified. The process Z-man describes well explains how an organizational compartment can come to be corrupted, even in an otherwise honest organization. The big question is how corruption jumps the barriers, given that the usual rivalries between factions would ordinarily tend to lead to rivals gleefully denouncing the miscreants to the top. And, independent reporting chains to the top are a feature of honest organizations as well. People who… Read more »

DLS
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DLS

I believe there are corrupt cells (see Lois Lerner at the IRS), but when the Left appoints the top people, who are also corrupt, the barriers between the top and that cell work together almost without any collusion at all.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Great points made here, all accurate. It’s why I’m so cynical about reform; at some point corrupt organizations usually reach a top-dead-center, after which reform is impossible because they’re schizophrenic and completely immune to moral tenets. It’s why the likes of Trump or Tulsi Gabbard, well-meaning as they may be, either have no effect or become a part of the problem. It’s always alarming to me when our “good guy” politicians (or priests, or SES-level bureaucrats) never grasp that they’re role playing Don Quixote. Ideally, fraud and sleaze operate on the fringes of government and power centers. What’s different now… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

In “The Republic,” Plato discussed his ideal society and then the four imperfect societies and how one degenerates into the next: Timarchy (rule by an honor- and glory-loving military elite), followed by a plutocracy (rule by money-grubbing rich), then a democracy (rule by the many obsessed with equality, freedom and a tolerance borne of indifference) and finally the the worst of all, a tyranny (rule by one man, with the central principle of lust; people are slaves to their passions). Plato pointed out that the democratic man still had a few moral scruples and at times suffered from a bad… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Yes. I think Machiavelli thought through the cycles of government as well, probably standing on the shoulders of Plato. It takes an observant people to notice these trends … that’s why I think we Americans are so ruthlessly propagandized and purposefully uneducated. Been awhile since I read this but tyranny usually descends into an even bloodier period of anarchy, correct? A lot of us hope for a quick renewal built on the ashes of fallen empire, but I’m not sure that’s ever happened.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Anarchy – Local warlords take control? Also, the possibility of foreign conquest. A population may either be indifferent to or hate their rulers so they won’t fight for their country. Even foreign conquest might be seen as preferable.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Ris;
If the history of China is any guide, sooner or later one of the warlords subdues the rest and a new dynasty is born. No doubt the previous elite got shortened by a head and the new emperors’ able deputies were installed, starting the cycle over again. Then the corruption gradually see[s in again after a generation or two.

DLS
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DLS

There is really not much difference between plutocracy and democracy, because the “money-grubbing rich have the controls either way. I also slightly disagree that tyranny rule by one man is necessarily the worst form. As C.S. Lewis said: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for… Read more »

The Babe
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The Babe

Those who cannot tolerate the corruption, but lack the courage to do anything about it, are boiled off.

I think the wishful thinking is that some swamp creature will finally have the morals and courage to stand up and blow this thing wide open.

The really blackpilling thought is that, of the dozens or hundreds of people who have enough information to do it, there might not be a single one with the integrity to go public, and the rot will just go on.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

“The really blackpilling thought is that, of the dozens or hundreds of people who have enough information to do it, there might not be a single one with the integrity to go public, and the rot will just go on.”

Or maybe they don’t want to suffer the same fate as Seth Rich.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

You think it’s painless being a whistle blower? You got another thing coming darling. It’s not. It’s a life changing experience and for the worse in many cases. This is why it’s so hard to get insiders to come forward to give information.

Chances are you are going to be black balled and if you manage to keep your current job, you’ll be ostracized and eventually forced to quit no matter what you do.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Sean Hannity has said over and over again that 99% of the FBI was honest and that only the top 1% was corrupt. One day, he was corrected by a guest, who said it was 15-20% and the second guest agreed. Either way, whatever opinions that FBI personnel had about the actions of their superiors, they kept their mouths shut because they valued their jobs and pensions more than law and morality.

The difference between an amoral careerist like Peter Strzok and the average FBI agent is that Strzok was actively corrupt and the other passive.

Dutch
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Dutch

I think it is more they value their lives. The FBI imbedded leadership would not hesitate to Seth Rich someone, or their family. Whether or not it is really true, if the rank and file believe it, it may as well be true.

DLS
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DLS

The exception is that if you whistleblow from the left, you are protected by the media and meekness of the GOP. If you whistleblow from the right, you are Seth Riched, without anyone even knowing about it.

Boarwild
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Boarwild

15-20% was corrupt or honest? Hannity saying that was such BS. If it were true – where are all the whistleblowers?

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

15-20% corrupt. I know – where are the whistleblowers?

Federalist
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Federalist

Babe, I think you’re right that there are many people who could go public but won’t. Even if someone who had all the info. exposed the corruption in intricate detail, I don’t know if it would make any difference. TPTB including the media would just ignore it or turn it into something about Trump and most ordinary people would go along with it.

It’s blindingly obvious in the Ukraine thing that Biden and his son are totally corrupt, but somehow that means Trump should be impeached.

fixeddisdain
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fixeddisdain

That’s why this is even more grim than Serpico, despite it’s exceptionally faithful telling of corruption.
In 1939 “Mister Smith goes to Washington”, in 2019 Mr. smith would get eaten alive by the Boyscouts of America.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Federalist
Exactly right if those who have all the power are the ones you are exposing then the only ones that would listen are the ones who have no power so all it does is get you killed…If there was two opposing power structures well then you would see more whistleblowers but alas it’s all one power base and we all know who that is…

William Williams
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William Williams

>>>it’s all one power base

Bingo!

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

It’s a cliche to point out that the Cloud People are disconnected from the Dirt People, but they are disconnected from the very idea of the United States or any other Western country. They’re citizens of the world which in practice means they’re citizens of no country. Loyal only to, at most, their families. China bought Joe Biden – that’s beyond corruption, that’s treason. Google opened an AI lab in Beijing in 2017 and ended its AI contract with the Pentagon in 2018. AI developed in China will go to their military. We get into a war and the Cloud… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

When the USSR fell, China was lifted up as Plan B.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

What happened with the Cloud People is beyond corruption. They have become so socially and economically isolated from the rest of the country as to be a hostile alien species. They have no idea what goes on outside of their bubble world, nothing. They just know that we are a impediment to them and their agenda so we have to go.

Nor will they allow us a peaceful separation from them either. They’ve made it clear they either want us dead or in camps.

Member

They forget that nary a one of them knows how to change a light bulb.

DLS
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DLS

They prefer camps so we can keep running on the hamster wheel to provide their financing.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

There will be no secession. The “war for secession” was and our current cold civil war will be about revenue, resources and territory. Secession will not be remotely tolerated. Then when we have no money and have been milked dry, do you opine that we land in the cage or purged? I should ask Lineman this and punt this question to you: IF the above is true, THEN why make plans to stay in this country? So we krall up in remote places…..why would the overlords tolerate this. As someone else here pointed out, just because we wear grey and… Read more »

MossHammer
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MossHammer

RFF. EXACTLY where I am strategically. This “well behaved kids stand out in contrast to the chaos.” is dead on. If I’m not grey, then I want to be on the leading edge of transitioning to offense when spicy shows up. A balancing act I’ve yet to achieve, much less quantify.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Hi Moss…In your opinion, tell me more of your thinking re “leading edge of transitioning to offense when spicy shows up.” What does that look like, even a tish, when that shows up? Thanks for your thoughts.

MossHammer
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MossHammer

Herein has been my challenge of navigating much of my awakening in isolation; “being ready” (to paraphrase your question). About 18 mos ago, it began as mostly mental exercise, as what I observed, heard and read was an affront to the world I thought I lived in. Surely black and brown groups are not positioning themselves for my families destruction? Or enslavement as minimum! Surely weak whites are not driving hard against their own race! Surely the law still works. Surely not. So moving from “in my head” pursuits to the practical and tactical, started with auditing physical, spiritual, financial… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

RFF
That’s why we don’t krall up we build up and out…We get one area secure for us and then move on to the next always moving forward…I know some balk at that idea but for us to have a chance it’s the way it has to be…I just hope enough will realize that before it’s to late…

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Hi Line! What does “build up and out” mean? Are you envisioning a wandering tribe? Please let me know your thoughts on how the moving tribe would not become a moving target. Best regards my friend.

Lineman
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Lineman

No not moving more like securing an area and then sending out people to secure more areas kind of like missionaries spreading the gospel…Hope that helps its one of those things that can be better expressed around the campfire…

Mike_C
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Mike_C

The Chinese execute INCONVENIENTLY corrupt politicians.

Their system is no less corrupt than ours. They just have no compunctions about finding a scapegoat (who may or may not actually be guilty) and shooting him in the head.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Corruption is only part of the issue.

A lot of systems are corrupt, but it’s one thing parasitically exploit a population and it’s quite another to try really hard to destroy them, when they’re not even rebelling.

The system ruling us is top tier when it comes to badness.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

It’s been pointed out here that our ruling class is acting like foreign colonists. They despise the great mass of Dirt People and hate, HATE the deplorables. I guess they see as as an impediment to their plans simply by voting in someone like Pres. Trump.

UFO
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UFO

They are foreign colonialists. “They” hate us because they are not us. They’re part of the Tribe. They might look like us, though.

Of course, this Tribe gets a great deal of help from useful idiot white gentiles (and, increasingly, Indians). Let’s just say that there’s not many Jewish families okay with race-mixing and transgender children … but many white gentiles (idiots) are totally fine with this.

I’m not one to scream madly about the Joos all day, but we have to point out the obvious here.

Anna
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Anna

Yes, American (mostly non religious) Jews disproportionately propagate progressivism. But because of their ## they would not get anywhere without useful idiots in other segments of population. Same picture as in Russian revolution of 1917. I would like to think that when or if a society here explodes, a majority of population won’t be as ruthless and cruel to each other as they were in the USSR.
Note I said American Jews. Predominantly Soviet, Iranian and Syrian Jews shake their heads observing their American counterparts.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

Good whites are the bulk of useful idiots. East Indians seek to SUPPLANT the Tribe. I’ve been observing (anecdotally) the outcomes for “educated”/professional East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) vs South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis) in the US. Forget the academic moonbats in either ethnic megagroup, they are essentially outliers. Look at which group has more people in finance, corporate boards, entertainment, and politics. And look at which group has an increasing lock on medical practices/hospitals, especially in “flyover” communities. (Hint, image search on “medical residency program” + name of your local teaching hospital. This shows you who’s in the pipeline and… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

“you can never be too cynical” Avoid the urge to think of politicians as wide eyed innocents. Guliani and Trump represent a lesser faction within the greater organized crime network. While electoral politics is largely fake, there is still internal politics within the deep state / organized crime network. The faction running Trump sought to use unorthodox tactics (cynical, exploitative, race-hustling false-populism) to “cut in line” and slightly adjust internal Imperial policy to favor Zionism even more than it already did. However, by using tactics that went beyond mere dog-whistling, into open race-hustling, they unwittingly (or semi-unwittingly) triggered the hive’s… Read more »

UpYours
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UpYours

Let me know what brand of crack you are on Sparky

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

It was Trump, not Obama who pardoned Sholom Rubashkin

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

That was one of the first tip-offs that he was never going to crack down on employers of illegal aliens.

Member

“The faction running Trump…”

Oh, please.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
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Nunnya Bidnez, jr.

There is something about the SIZE of gov’t which makes it devolve into these corrupt entities. During the past 40 years, the NYC City Council has grown to 51 members, previously it was a much smaller body. One consequence of having such a large body is that once it leans too much towards one political party (Dems in NYC’s case), it becomes irreversibly SINGLE party. In 50 years, the number of municipal employees has grown from 100k to 300k. In just the past 20 years the annual budget has mushroomed from $25billion to $95billion. Of course there’s more corruption, 3… Read more »

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Of course there’s more corruption, 3 times as much.

I don’t think corruption grows merely linearly as a function of size of government.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
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Nunnya Bidnez, jr.

I was speaking metaphorically, & rhetorically exaggerating.

I meant 6 times as much ;>)

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

You are right. It is more of an exponential function because of all the additional frictional costs of greasing each additional layer of the bureaucracy. Everyone gets a taste.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

One thing I’ve learned (the hard way) from doing corporate turnarounds and integrations—if you do not move fast and hard and early to make changes—there is little chance of success. When something is bloated and underperforming, leaving the miscreants in place hoping to “evolve” to a better performance level, the blob will defeat you.

DLS
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DLS

That is why I always vote against every tax increase, no matter the reason. Money for parks? Get it from other bloated areas. Money for schools? Reduce the number of administrators. Money for police and firemen? Good cause, cut elsewhere. The scam is to use the cover of things everyone agrees with, while funneling the new money into the fungible general budget.

Monty James
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“The business of the empire is organized crime.”

A lot of normie-cons seem to have trouble grasping, at some level, that we are ruled by gangsters. If I talk to any, I point out that one thing that demonstrates this is the House Judiciary Committee voting down an amendment during markup of the Red Flag law to automatically add known gang members to the Extreme Risk Protection Order list. I have no use for any type of Red Flag law, but that was a pretty obvious tell.

Dutch
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Dutch

The thing going on, under the surface, at the level of the individual, is that many if not most people don’t really act based on right and wrong, but on what they can get away with. The right and wrong of it is rationalized after the fact. That is how the Bernie Madoffs and the Lori Laughlins (college kid scandal) justify their behavior, once caught. Religion has sought to place some ethical guardrails in place to discipline behavior, but that is all gone now. At the government level, there are no boundaries. Same now with the media. They simply go… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

“But do you really think they will let us have even that?” Dutch – great question I’ve pondered myself. I really think we need to ponder groups like the Kurds and Chechens. As a Christian I look at the Waldensians and the persecuted church. I also live around a bunch of Amish fellows – they’ve taught me a lot. They’re all hardcore survivors. I think separatism is a great path in the short term. Still, the time will come where it will probably have to go underground, especially our economy. The enemy doesn’t want us out of sight, they want… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

The separatism we seek is going to need to be a relatively invisible one, not on-line where the panopticon watches our doings 24/7, and not in a way that calls attention to ourselves in any way. We need to be those people living down the road, at the end of a long driveway, that no one ever sees and nobody knows much about. The cars we drive, the clothes we wear, the personalities we show to the public, all need to be grey and unmemorable. The panopticon will still see us, but we will be a bit out of focus… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

We’re in violent agreement here. What I’m noticing though is that even going “gray and silent” can stick out like a rose in the desert, even with my nondescript cars, well concealed sidearm, and ordinary house down a 1/2 mile dirt road, complete with locked farm gate. Here’s the thing – as we secede from the prevailing culture we can’t help but thrive. You know what the culturally destitute notice when we leave the CAPT S compound? That my children have joy – they’re cheerful, they say yes ma’am & sir, brothers & sisters watch each others’ back. I’ve been… Read more »

Member

You aren’t the only ones. We will prevail.

UFO
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UFO

That’s the problem. Being a “normal” person is what stands out. You’re exactly right. I’m around so many 3rd world mystery meats. Damn, I just kick their ass in every way. I’m not saying this out of arrogance, it’s just true. I’m better at everything than they are. That’s why there is such a dumbing down of white children’s education system; it’s the only way the aliens can compete. Me, not held back by stupidity, guilt, or ignorance, totally breeze past these aliens. Intelligence, Work ethic, emotionally, physically. I know this sounds so arrogant. But by throwing off the shackles… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Well Dutch and Capt those issues that can be talked about around the campfire…My opinion is different than that but everyone has to do what they feel right about…

Chester White
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Chester White

I traveled in Eastern Europe before the wall came down, and that is exactly what the people there did- separate psychically, waiting for the evil to consume itself, which it inevitably does.

Dutch
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Dutch

I saw the same thing when I was there. Thats where I learned how so much communication is done in an unspoken fashion, a gaze, a facial expression, a gesture.

Yves Vannes
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This level of corruption has been part and parcel of how democracy operates and the types of people it draws into its inner circle. And it has always been so… In the 70s there was a book that blew the lid off of the corruption in Washington…at least that’s what it was supposed to do. “The Washington Payoff” by Robert Winter Berger. It named names: presidents, congressmen, judges, corp executives…and many many others…and it all came to naught. Democracy is a payoff system at its most fundamental mode of operation. What’s an election other than a way to buy votes.… Read more »

DLS
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DLS

Remember when it was revealed there was a congressional slush fund to silence sexual abuse claims? Or when it was discovered that congress can trade on inside information obtained in the course of their duties? Or when those who caused the financial meltdown were put in charge of redesigning the system (Dodd Frank, Sarbanes Oxley)? Yeah, Neither does anyone else.

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

So when do the hangings commence? Do we have to wait for complete societal collapse? Then again, maybe that’s exactly what we need to grow a spine and cojones again.

TheInsolentOne
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TheInsolentOne

When the supply chain finally breaks down. There are several million infidels that want to string up this criminal class, but lack the necessary society triggering event to do so.

Lineman
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Lineman

Can’t have a hanging without the town supporting that option and helping you build the gallows…Cart before the horse and all that…

TheInsolentOne
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TheInsolentOne

How much of the loyalty to the corrupt system is ideological?????? I’m thinking it’s largely profit and status based. You can carve out a cushy living by doing what the system wants. All manners of grifters flock to D.C. for this reason.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Lust for profit and status generally comes first, the ideology follows. Progressivism is a religion. Heck, so is Conservative, Inc. Having walked and talked with these people I can tell you that most are true believers. You cannot live and thrive in DC without joining one of the prevailing cults … you have to live there to understand it.

DLS
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DLS

And the rube progressive flock goes along, as long as they can get their abortions and EBT cards.

Dutch
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Dutch

The ideology is simply the means to an end, exactly right. The end is personal wealth and comfort. Epicurus tried to justify pleasure seeking by putting limits on what the Epicureans should ask for, but pleasure seeking actually has no upper boundary in the real world.

TheInsolentOne
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TheInsolentOne

Face it. We are the white blood cells of a beleaguered immune system. And several of us must be sacrificed to stop the pathogens. Let’s be honest here.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

One of the best movies made about politics is “Thank You for Smoking.” One of the best characters in that movie was William Macy playing a Senator from Vermont. It’s just so perfect and really captured the moral vacuum of the town. “At the end of the day, you have to pay the mortgage” is the going theme. McCabe, et al, have mortgages to pay, and they also like the power. DC is a different town in that it attracts a certain type. These are people who would never make it beyond second tier managers in any other place. Yes,… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

In one of Zman’s podcasts, he mentioned working at one time for a politician. Two things that struck him was how stupid they were and how much they drank. I don’t recall which podcast because I would like to listen to it again.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

To be a politician is to be a brick or two shy of a load. All people skills without a shred of morality. This is why democracy doesn’t work. Because politicians can convince most voters that they’re human. If democracy worked they would be mocked and tossed out left and right by the voters. How many million of them are convinced, to this day, that Hillary Clinton is this great misunderstood, downtrodden person whom they would love to be in a book club with? Hillary Clinton doesn’t like her own fans. Hillary Clinton would like to slit their throats just… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

A retired-hedge fund manager friend said that the Clintons are the two most corrupt people on the planet and that people would drag them into the street to be beheaded if they knew what they did. She also thought that the Clintons would get away with their crimes.

Lineman
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Lineman

That old bag would fall down and probably impale herself if she tried that but she would definitely order her minions to do it while she looked on with glee…

Member

Hillary is a Nero wannabe.

Member

“Like a cancer, the exception making starts to spread through the system.”

Juvenal best described corruption in the second century B.C.: “One bad apple spoils the whole barrel.”

Member

Correction: Make that “A.D.” not “B.C.”

StrangerInAStrangeLand
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StrangerInAStrangeLand

Still, just as true BC as AD

Mencken Libertarian
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Mencken Libertarian

I wonder if the Catholic scandal is such a good example. As a teenager in the sixties it was common knowledge that several of the priests in our local diocese in Boston were homosexuals. And it’s probably not coincidence that the huge drop in men entering the priesthood, along with the drop in women becoming nuns, coincided with the change in American culture from condemning homosexuality to promoting it. Perhaps the high numbers of people taking “Holy Orders” in the past was simply homosexuals needing a place where they could get their jollies with others of like mind without having… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Run an internet search for ” Liber Gomorrhianus”

It’s a book from 1051 by a Benedictine monk complaining about rampant sodomy and pederasty in the church

Looks like the Pope refused to impose harsh punishment

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Never underestimate the capacity of a Catholic to process denial. It really is unbelievable. There’s plenty of denial and hypocrisy to go around, including in protestantism, by Catholicism is really something.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Catholic families were larger in the past and, in some ethnicities such as the French Quebecois and Irish, took great pride in a son or daughter entering the clergy.

My WWII vet Catholic father told me that he knew in his youth two local parish priests who would change into their civilian “go to hell” clothes and “whoop it up” in Atlantic City. I didn’t ask what “whoop it up” entailed. Maybe something they needed to go to Confession for afterwards.

TheLastStand
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“The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll look down and whisper “No.”

IFrank
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IFrank

Notice how Drudge has begun to slant more leftward? Soros? Cashing checks from someone.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I used to be a fan of Drudge but, in 2016, he was an anti-Trumper. Haven’t been there for years. I don’t known what happened.

Member

More like rushing past Pravda.

Dutch
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Dutch

Bloomberg has also gone full MSNBC on this one. They are putting, in writing, that the accusations against the Bidens “have been discredited”. By whom? They are also “Trump impeachment” 24/7. WSJ seems to be piling on as well. My sense is that the other side is experiencing a “now or never” moment and is going all-in, Hail Mary style.

DLS
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DLS

Here is a good alternative. Over the top on the headlines, but a reliable source of links.
https://thelibertydaily.com/

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I read that instead of Drudge. It seems to be from an evangelical perspective, so it’s very pro-Israel and Jews and anti-abortion.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Drudge always promotes Ru Paul and transsexuals aggressively. It makes me wonder about him.

Member

i saw him on CSPAN, I think it was, a couple of decades ago. I’ve always assumed he was a shirtlifter.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I was unfamiliar with the term “shirtlifter,” looked it up and now am a worse person for knowing what it means.

William Williams
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William Williams

FWIW, that Drudge was gay (or at least bisexual) has been pretty much common knowledge or years,

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Oh he is, I thought everybody knew.
He’s simply old-fashioned, doesn’t think his private preferences should be waved around like a bloody shirt.

Discrete. Old school. A professional, the story’s not about him.
I wish they were all like that.

Exile
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Exile

Corruption is the greatest single failing and hazard of government and we have reached uncontrollable levels. There is a critical population for sociopaths and narcissists to hijack any institution, and they’ve been silently adding up the institutions where “institutional good faith” no longer restrains people like them – or worse yet-acts as sheep’s clothing against a trusting constituency (Wall Street, the Lavender Mafia). We have permitted institutional scale corruption until it has grown roots & formed mutually reinforcing networks of mind-f*ckery, gaslighting, selective enforcement and cui bono justice from the snout of Big Napoleon down to its squiggly tail. We’re… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Jail? Don’t be a wimp.

Exile
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Exile

Jail’s what would show the society is still healthy enough to make it. It remains to be seen how well Whites can hold up in a manifestly unjust society with basically African & Latin American politics manipulated by Chosen financial & media moguls. Whites have a strong sense of justice that chafes under third world levels of corruption.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I’d like to see the lot of them publicly hanged and then their carcasses tossed to pigs to eat. Heck, forget the hanging, I’d just toss the bigshots to the pigs.

Pigs gotta eat too, you know.

Lineman
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Lineman

Pigs gotta eat too, you know…
I know but why do you have to feed them such a shitty meal…Feed em to the hyenas…

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

How about sharks?

Toss them, alive or dead, out of a helicopter into the ocean.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The pay-per-view on that would pay off the national debt

Calsdad
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Calsdad

When Boston Globe Spotlight broke the Catholic Church kiddie diddling story back in the early 2000’s – my wife’s mother – who is a very observant Catholic almost had a stroke. At first – it was just because her beloved Catholic Church had been harboring kiddie diddlers. But it got worse. Because then it came out that one of the priests who was among the worst offenders – had been the parish priest where the mother had gone to church – and brought all my wife’s brothers and sisters (she has 5 brothers). It got even worse still – when… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Reminds me of my Dad telling me why there was minimal conflict in his little village … they just took care of things. A woman showed up with a suspicious bruise, the men held council, and that night there was a special visit with about 10-times the original abuse dished out. He said because of that culture – handling the little stuff as community – then none of the big stuff ever happened … no rapes, and of course no pedophilia. Progressives call this vigilantism … I call it stable community.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Capt S – where was your dad’s village? Where your dad’s folks lived, it may have been legal for a man to beat his wife, but in practice it was not tolerated.

Vigilante justice was frequently meted out in this country before WWII. How many of the people punished were innocent and how many were caught in the act? Up until 50 years ago, cops meted out unofficial justice with the help of a billy club.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

The outer banks of NC. The family trees had few branches but from I gather from the various stories is that their local justice was relatively fair and immediate, certainly better than what today’s domestic courts and child protective services offer. They could do this because they enjoyed a homogeneous culture and the nearest official judge/peacekeeper was a boat ride away. Their system worked … ours doesn’t.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Capt S – I wondered if your dad’s village was overseas.

The self-reliant “let’s take care of the problem ourselves” mentality is largely gone in modern America in so many different way.

Lineman
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Lineman

Amen and to have that Community we can’t be grey otherwise no will stand together…

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ReturnOfBestGuest

I know someone with a similar story (victim of Shanley at St. Pat’s.) I asked his sister why nobody told their parents/another adult and she said everyone took it for granted the adults would back the priest. Different times.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

A friend (NYC class of 1964) told me that in his youth, the doctor was god and right below was the teacher. In a dispute between a student and teacher, the teacher was always right, even if she was wrong, and the parents would back the teacher.

Lineman
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Lineman

Because people didn’t want to stand against evil they wanted to hide from it which will always bring about more of it…When good men don’t stand together against evil(for whatever reason) then evil will flourish…Just a thought what happens when it doesn’t come crashing down it just keeps getting worse and worse until we are all dead along with everything we hold dear…

3g4me
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3g4me

Lineman – very well said. People very much want to hide from the evil, to not acknowledge it or deal with it. My husband is gradually red-pilling a good friend of many years, who is incredibly smart and, prior to becoming a Christian, was incredibly cynical. He’s still pretty much a misanthrope, but really facing what’s going on and how bad/deep it is just upsets him. I can understand the incredible frustrated rage because I live with it, but I would rather deal with that than with ignorant and willful blindness.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Re: The Catholic Church – rotten from the top to the bottom….. https://epiphanytampa.weebly.com/pastors-bulletin-article/why-dont-the-priests-blow-the-whistle https://epiphanytampa.weebly.com/pastors-bulletin-article/how-bad-could-the-blackmail-be https://epiphanytampa.weebly.com/pastors-bulletin-article/an-apocalyptic-pandemic https://epiphanytampa.weebly.com/pastors-bulletin-article/one-proposed-solution Excerpt: From the Pastor: Why Don’t the Priests Blow the Whistle? One question that was asked after last week’s homily was, “Why don’t ‘good’ priests and ‘good’ bishops blow the whistle on the abusive priests and bishops?” Many people still don’t (I believe most priests still don’t) understand just how evil the active homosexual or homosexual activist (AH/HA from here on out) priests and bishops are. Not understanding the extent of their depravity and wrongly thinking that they are simply “normal” men who just… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

I just re-read Zman’s column. Re: “At some point, another dynamic kicks in. Those who cannot tolerate the corruption, but lack the courage to do anything about it, are boiled off. They move on, leaving behind a mix of cowards and corrupt. Of course, the corrupt flock to corruption, so the institution becomes a magnate for the type who like rule breaking. Before long, you go from a system where rule breaking is not tolerated and the rule breakers fear exposure, to a system where rule breaking is normalized and rule enforcers fear exposure.” This is exactly the dynamic that… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

A stupid example would be a house that is so run down that it can’t be fixed. Just tear it down and start all over.

On another, happier, note, 8:11 pm and we’re at 217 comments! Zman’s rep continues to spread.

Monsieur le Baron
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I was under the impression everyone knew about the corruption though. Doesn’t your average Joe joke about how crooked all the pols are? It’s only these urban wannabes who drink the Koolaid, and it seems nothing will shock the soiboi into seeing the truth.

Bob Smith
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Bob Smith

Exactly right.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

One righteous man, one man willing to sacrifice everything, could bring it all down. Of course, there’s no righteousness in DC; I’m pretty sure its actually illegal at this point.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Roger
I don’t think so Brother it would take many righteous men at this point in time…

Calsdad
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Calsdad

That sounds really good as the byline for a Hollywood movie.

Not sure how well it really works out in reality though.

Last time I checked Julian Assange is in jail – and Edward Snowden is hiding out in Russia.

Eric Blair
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Eric Blair

There were plenty of criminal wrongdoing under the MajikMullato

Fast n Furious
Money for Mullahs
Lois and the IRS
Campaign money from extranationals

The corporate ScumSJWLibProgAss-sniffer media just kept it capped

There ! ..,. fixed para 8, second sentence for ya

Whiskey
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Whiskey

Trump surely has some friendly judges. Why doesn’t he sue to shut down Adam Schiff? If a judge can order Trump to let in Muslims he can order Schiff to shut up.

Lawfare should like taxes hurt. That’s a Reagan quote.

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ReturnOfBestGuest

Under “W” we had the Niger uranium forgeries, the wmd stockpiles, etc., all fabrications cooked up by the OSP/PNAC crowd to drag us into a war with a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks while simultaneously suppressing information about the Saudis’ role. If that’s not a scandal, I don’t know what is.

george
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george

So true. The dems say Trump is a criminal. He is, so far, a boy scout compared to Bush and Obama. Iraq, Afghanistan , Libya, Ukraine and Syria. I bet you could not round off the innocents who were killed to the nearest hundred thousand. Not to mention all of our maimed and dead soldiers.

They are mass murderers. But no one cares.

Lance_E
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More prosaically, cooperate/cooperate equilibrium quickly degrades to defect/defect equilibrium when chronic defectors go unpunished.

Whiskey
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Whiskey

Speaking of corruption it seems this whole Ukraine thing was a corrupt put up job by Mitt Romney who has a crony on the board of Burisma the company that paid Hunter Biden in excess of $3.1 million and Adam Schiff. Like the Brexit cancel by Conservative and Labor party members conspiring. Trump is still in danger but Romney as Never Trump leader is poison now to fellow Senators. The counter cancel of the reporter who canceled Carson King must make them fear. If only a little. Trump needs a Reagan defense boost in employment and patronage. That’s jobs for… Read more »

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“He can’t relax as all it takes is one judge ordering his removal.”

I do like well done satire, please play again, Teeny Dick.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
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Nunnya Bidnez, jr.

I can assure you that Whisky is not the troll TinyDuck.

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Couldn’t prove it by that post.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Totally O/T- maybe not, since this is about the Hive’s defense instinct-

But I realized why there’s a ‘vaping crisis’.

Two words: Sackler payoff.
Gotta give ’em time to get their treasures out of country.

Matt Bracken
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Outstanding column!

CAPT S
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CAPT S

If you’re THE Matt Bracken then thank you sir for all you’ve taught through your books and essays.

Lineman
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Lineman

He is that Matt Bracken😉

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Thank you Mr. Bracken! Basic Husband got me started on Eric Ambler. Now I get to read you…..and learn! Thank you for your efforts and keep your powder dry…..at sea!

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This topic ties in nicely with this piece at Unz,
https://www.unz.com/anepigone/confidence-in-american-institutions/

george
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george

Good grief. 90 plus percent of Republicans have confidence in the police. Boy are they going to get a surprise.

Member

Part of my comment was
“That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.”

ProUSA
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ProUSA

Good article here.

For the next five years The Establishment will continue attacking Trump. They will do this so as to keep him so busy and on the defensive that he won’t have time to counter attack.

Richard Raymond
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Richard Raymond

Speaking of police corruption, apparently going on 50 years. The interesting point made by Olivebutton in the comments is the possibility of the victim cops being part of a scam to profit from the settlement as well as the Badge wearing gang members I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true. The links reveal a lot too.
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beaten-nearly-to-death-by-fellow-cops-for-exposing-a-literal-gang-running-the-dept/