Low Tide

“When the tide goes out you find out who’s naked” is an old gag in the Wall Street world, often attributed to Warren Buffett. He likes to include it in his annual letters to investors. What he means by it is the risk positions of a company are only known when they face adverse conditions, like a downturn in the economy. Others have used a version of the aphorism to mean that you find out who is a smart investor when the market takes a downturn. Similar idea, broader application.

The same sort of thinking applies to politics. Like most Wall Street traders, the political class is the last notice the tide going out on them. Most came into the game during a rising tide and came to assume good times are perpetual. If you live in the Imperial Capital, this sense is reinforced by the fact it is always a boom time, in terms of the economy, around Washington. Every year trillions of dollars flow into the city and those dollars don’t spend themselves. It’s always Christmas in the DC.

The tide does go out in politics. The moderate Democrats learned that lesson in the early 1990’s as the party began to radicalize. For the longest time they got to play the old game of talking like a normal person at home, but going along with the radicals when it came time to vote. Then Newt Gingrich figured out how to exploit this contradiction and the moderate wing of the Democrat party was eliminated in the 1994 midterm elections. The tide went out and the moderates were naked.

Something similar happened with the neoconservative cabal that had controlled the Republican Party for decades. Their appeals to normal white guy patriotism had been so effective at directing support for their endless wars in the Middle East, they just assumed it would work forever. They did not see the growing backlash on their Right until Trump captured the Republican nomination. Their reaction to the tide going out on their enterprise revealed things about them best left concealed.

One of those things revealed in 2016 was just how much these people despises their target audience. That in turn has raised an age-old question about the sorts of people in the neoconservative movement. A warmonger like Jonah Goldberg never met a war you should not fight on his behalf, but he is always ready to lecture you on your moral failings while you wage that war on his behalf. What low tide for the neocons meant was the stench of an age-old hatred for the victims of their perfidy.

Today the tide is going out again and this time it is the remaining figures of Conservative Inc. showing their nature to the world. Nick Fuentes, the young YouTube personality, has become a bug-light of sorts, for grifters to immolate themselves on in a fit of moral outrage over the groypers. It is as if there is a secret contest to see which one can put on the best smug face as they shriek about Fuentes. One after another, the dull and the witless have stepped forward to bleat their unhappiness.

Here we have bugman Dan McLaughlin claiming he sees the army of the invisible Hitlers all around Fuentes. Here we have bourgeois hausfrau Claire Lehmann warning about tricksters between trips to the liquor cabinet. John Cardillo, who everyone assumed was dead, turned up to remind everyone why that would be his best career move. The only thing that guy needs is a pic of himself on his Harley that he never takes out of the driveway. He’s the B-roll of a documentary on boomer conservatism.

Another guy who should collect his paycheck wearing a ski mask and carry a gun is Jim Geraghty from National Review. He penned a tantrum that reads like an interview with a teenage girl after an accident. Not to be left out, David French chimed-in to remind everyone that he is the king of cucks.. French is a guy who stepped over the poor and suffering in his own backyard so he could kidnap an Africa baby to tote around as a trophy to his perverted sense of righteousness.

Of course, the guys with a color in their name have got in on the game. Here we have someone calling himself Dominic Green at the Spectator telling us the groypers are the real fascists. Here’s someone calling himself Matt Purple, at the ironically titled American Conservative, telling us Fuentes is the omen. Keep in mind that AmCon has defended and employed a guy regularly arrested for soliciting sex from children. Yet, they are outraged over talk about demographic reality. When the tide goes out, guys with colors in their name reveal their perfidy.

That is what is so revealing about these guys swarming to attack Fuentes and his young acolytes. They are so craven and hollow; they are incapable of seeing any humanity in these young men. They are antibodies of the establishment, attacking what they are told is a pathogen. Nowhere in their attacks do they mention that these are young men, motivated by a real concern for their future. For the automatons of Conservative Inc., none of that matters. They do what they are told.

In dissident circles, there is a debate about whether conservatism, as an institution, is worth saving. James Kirkpatrick has a book on the subject and has talked about this topic at various events. In the end, it may be a self-answering question. As the tide goes out and more and more of these people are revealed to be hollow, soulless men without chests, the conservative enterprise looks shabbier and uglier. At this point, the question is whether they can withstand the rising tide of the dissident right.


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Chaz Chazstein
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Chaz Chazstein

It’s an extremely interesting time we live in…

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Isn’t that an old Chinese curse?

Wildgoose
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Wildgoose

Sorry to be a pedant, but No, “May You Live InInteresting Times” was actually coined by the English SF writer Eric Frank Russell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frank_Russell

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

These respectable conservatives have to go after Nick and the Groypers. The big issue here is legal immigration and demographic change giving Democrats national elections for good. To tackle this problem means these conservatives have to deal with the realities of race, which is the ultimate no-go zone* for them if they want to remain respectable. That’s how powerful a word that didn’t exist a hundred years ago is. Lose all future elections or deal with race differences, which would include discriminating on the basis of race?

*there’s another one they won’t touch, but that’s for another discussion.

Chet Rollins
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Chet Rollins

Once you show ethnic differences in voting patterns, it’s not much of a leap to start redpilling on academic achievement, crime, and social cohesion. Then whites stat to think of their own identity.
The last thing conservative Inc. wants is for the Republicans to be ‘The White Party’, even though they already are.

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Audacious Epigone’s post a few days back was eye-opening:

https://www.unz.com/anepigone/how-white-black-and-hispanic-conservatives-voted-in-2016/

Even Blacks who fall on the conservative side on most major issues vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Most Hispanics, too.

I’ve repeated the fact that the only demographic Trump won was White people and it just doesn’t get a lot of action. I think people on the right don’t know how to deal with it because it is not what they want to be true.

People on the left, however, are well aware and enthusiastic about it.

King Tut
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King Tut

” I think people on the right don’t know how to deal with it because it is not what they want to be true.”

Yes. People believe what they want and need to believe. White people who like to think of themselves as decent and humane* cannot allow themselves to succumb to evil, for if they do then they can no longer think of themselves as decent and humane.

Since racism is now the only true evil left in the world, get thee behind me Satan.

*And they ARE decent and humane.

Bucksnort
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No they aren’t decent or humane, because they will have no qualms about exiling and destroying the lives of those who run afoul of the anti racist witch hunts.

They are treacherous cowards mostly concerned with their social status and income. They have attempted to redefine virtue to excuse their disgusting behavior.

Chris_Lutz
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No, they aren’t able to deal with it. Most of them have imbibed the race/ethnicity/religion blindness. That’s why so many Con. Inc. sites run Leftists Are the Real Racists articles.

And, yes, Lefty’s know everyone in their coalition is some form of what they claim to be against. None of the groups care right now because it is all about getting a bigger piece of that pie.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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To restate my point above, they can’t acknowledge the truth. Its like public school teachers; they cannot acknowledge their lying eyes. But if we were the strongest, our truth would become Canon. When Goebbels was asked “but what about the Intellectuals?” he laughed and answered “they’ll be with us.” To finish cribbing Moldbug …the Intellectuals are humanity’s eternal race of whores. I’ll add; culture is downstream from power. Believe? They believe in their sinecures, of which they are presently very, very insecure about indeed. Get power, wield it. These intellectuals sing for their supper. Call the tune and they’ll whistle… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

I would be curios to see a breakdown of white hispanic votes. Willing to bet that of the Hispanics who voted for Trump, a sizable majority were white hispanics.

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From what I have seen the Hispanic vote for Trump was mainly working class men in the private sector

The Anti-Gnostic
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The Anti-Gnostic

I think this is right. Mestizo working class who like good economic times and admire a strong man. But they’re still the minority of Hispanics.

Most Iberians I’ve encountered are Leftists. They like to pretend that because blacks barely exist in Hispano-phone places like Mexico and Argentina, then their societies are virtuously color-blind. They are in for a rough ride, because Central and South America are beginning to break down along racial fault lines.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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The people on the Right who can’t deal with it are Beltway types who understand but cannot acknowledge publicly the truth. It would be like being a conservative or reactionary in Hollywood – except its the CIA ruining you instead of the SAG.

There’s only one Mel Gibson in DC: and like him or not it’s Orange Bad Man. Who will never be Bad enough for many here but he’s what we’ve got.

Ant Man Bee
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“There’s another one they won’t touch.”

(((Heh.)))

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Why do you think they are always celebrating our victory over Germany in WW2 (aka “The Great Patriotic War”)? By keeping this open sore in Western Civ festering, they prevent anyone from daring to question the series of social changes that emerged from that conflict. It is the source of their power.

Peter
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Peter

It’s interesting how few times Japan gets a mention……

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a guy regularly arrested for soliciting sex from children

Remind me again how PizzaGate was “debunked?”

Chaz Chazstein
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Chaz Chazstein

ANTI SEMITIC!

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Pizzagate strikes me as a game of “two truths and a lie.”

This is a highly effective disinformation tactic, because the one lie will discredit the two truths.

The lie was the underground tunnels at Comet Ping Pong. It was something the likes of John Podesta could point at to hide their creepy artwork and spirit cooking.

Exile
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Exile

It was another bad case of what the TRS guys call “decoder ring conspiracy sh*t.” No one has much trouble believing the Empire is run by a cabal of Mossad-compromised child sex predators, but the idea that they go around crypto-signalling their crimes in some Masonic-Dan Brown fashion derails the whole thing.

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Some of the Podesta emails were *really* weird, though, and didn’t make much sense at all unless they were code.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

I admit to having done a double-take when going through the FBI vault doc dump of the Finders Cult and discovering that “classified maps of underground tunnel/sewer system, Washington, DC.” were among the items found when their warehouse was raided.

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This little nugget about the Podesta’s doesn’t get the attention it deserves.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/podesta-brothers-revealed/

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

There were a couple more E-FIT (European police composite) drawings in that case and the woman with “short dark hair” is a dead-ringer for Ghislane Maxwell. Tinfoil-hat territory? Pareidolia?

Exile
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Exile

I agree, hard if not impossible to deny that. Those weren’t meant for public consumption, more likely to be a WYSIWYG situation, an insider code meant as a last layer of plausible deniability and a wink and a smirk to fellow pervs. I don’t think Sven was wigging out over that interpretation vis a vis the Podesta emails themselves (YMMV, it’s episode 417 with RamZPaul, good show BTW and Sven’s best on-air-meltdown). It’s more about “Tarentino’s” boogaloo but P-gate gets some airtime, too. He was railing on Q-Anon level stuff where they’ve explicitly claimed that public symbol-flashing was a necessary… Read more »

Wkathman
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Wkathman

Think of it as a “great replacement.” Mainstream cuckservatives are a bunch of cowards who must be replaced by dissident thinkers who have a lot more piss and vinegar.

UFO
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UFO

I find it fascinating and telling how the standard Con Inc. line is “the ‘left’ call everyone they disagree with Nazis/racists/fascists! They won’t engage in a discussion with us because they’re so radical!”

First of all, that’s a losing, whiny narrative. Second of all, now that the Groypers come along, suddenly Con Inc. is out there “shutting down free speech” and calling everyone a Nazi.

As Con Inc. used to throw at the left: the cognitive dissidence is absolutely off the charts.

Member

That’s because these grifters are progressive SJWs wearing republican skinsuits. This is the point and shriek phase of an SJW attack. They are trying to get the amenable authorities in the form of Twitter and YT to win the scalp which they will then parade as a warning to all that getting out of line means disemployment and de-platforming!

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

They are desperate to prove they’re not racists. They’ve been dancing to the tune of the left so long they’re completely bewildered that people exist that don’t care.

DaBooby
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“bourgeois hausfrau” Love it.

The times are changing, but slowly… very slowly. By the time the new wave of the anti-establishment right gets organized into anything even like a political party its platforms will be largely illegal (literally, not figuratively).

It’s a matter of main street waking up far too late. They’re starting to realize that in Europe now, namely that they should have more forcefully resisted the political class decades ago. Whether it’s immigration, the Eurozone, or EU expansion…. the time to act is yesterday!

Ditto in the US.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Far from too late.
Demographics are adjustable.

Horace
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Horace

The history of sapient hominids on planet Earth is a tale of demographic adjustments. This war is not only not beginning, it has always been. Our forebears built a nice continent-sized safe place for us to engage in the silly fantasy that there will ever be an end to war. The awakening that is now underway is happening after the most intense, pervasive mass-media agitprop social engineering project in human history has failed to erase difference. May our oligarch class be cleansed from the Earth for the crime of wallowing in their wealth while ignoring the genocidal Communist cancer growing… Read more »

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Horace at the Bridge !
Bravo!

(Yes I know it’s Horatio, but close enough).

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Exactly.

I’ve thought for quite some time that the way to “fix” the demographic problem – is to just make the US untenable for those millions who have arrived here relatively recently.

One thing is very clear is that a high % of the Hispanics still retain close connections with wherever it was they came from. They send money back, they take vacations back in the motherland, the phone home constantly – etc. They didn’t come here to become Americans – they came here for economic reasons.

Poison the well – and drive them back ‘home’.

Da Booby
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Do our little bits to undermine the economy.

It’s a consumer economy, so be a non-consumer as much as possible. Without positive growth fractional reserve banking is untenable, too.

Stay out of debt. Don’t consume. Hold physical assets. If possible, move money out of country. If possible, do you consuming out of country. Get another passport, if you can. Panama’s a good one.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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They’ll run. Be what they say we are; because they’re right. We’re right about their bad side, they’re right about ours. Be the Terror of our continents (America, Europe, Russia) and they’ll scatter. The real men of those lands stayed in their lands. The Hispanics will run. The Jews will run. The Asians will run. Grifters all; they’ll run. Let them. Every airport an embassy. – and safety. Fly away. As for the ah er Lagos problem…they’ll calm right down. What in no small way is driving them all mad is our madness in trying to share power. 1965 set… Read more »

Oldtradesman
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Oldtradesman

“Far from too late.”

55 years too late.

“Demographics are adjustable.”

Adjustment requires willpower.

The blightwing’s indolent sheep lack that quality.

Your time is better spent looking after family and long time friends.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Too late to save what was the United States? Yes. Too late to save the EU? Yes. Too late to save our peoples? No.

Clearing existing tribes out of an area to make room for a new tribe is the natural ebb and flow of history. Huns cleared out Goths. Goths cleared out other tribes. Europeans cleared out American Indian tribes. Hell, around 12 million Germans were expelled from Eastern European countries AFTER WWII. None of this is written in stone.

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

Most of the EU can probably be saved without tearing downs it’s existing political structure of they get off their rears. It’s still an exceedingly white place. The U.S. isn’t, which means the political structure will have to come down for us to move forward. That makes our road much more difficult.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Yes! Demography is destiny is utter nonsense. Demography is life- nothing is more fragile.

John Smith
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Nazzo fast, DB! As The Bad Orange Man says – this is huge! You and our esteemed blog host are only seeing some goofy kid, standing up to a torrent of disdain from his elders. When resistance movements become viable and successful – they do it exponentially, not geometrically. Consider the boomers: their parents were old world Americans that survived the depression and maybe one or two world wars. They built modern America and sent their kids to the moon in their retirement. When liberalism took root in their generation – they were swept away like dust bunnies. The MSM… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

What’s the old saying if your taking fire/flak you are over the target…Well those kids are right on target and yea we need to help them in whatever way we can…

Da Booby
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They’re young, these Groypers, that’s what’s surprising. They’re swimming against the tide of a state apparatchik that indoctrinates the young starting in kindergarten. The Booby’s shocked there is anyone under 30 who is resisting. Hope springs eternal.

Exile
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Exile

When hope fades I try to think in terms of cycles and balances rather than spirals. They have overplayed their hand and the Zoomers to some extent represent a balancing backlash – call if a reversion to “the Mean” in the sense of hatefacts not caring for feelings.

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

I remember reading somewhere that the results from mandatory cultural sensitivity classes and anti-racism classes were that they made people less culturally sensitive and more racist. The mandatory part was the problem.

I don’t know if that’s true but there’s has been a change from subtle covert propaganda to overt propaganda. This was probably meant as a “spike the football” declaration of victory by the left. “We can force your children to listen to our lunatics.” But it may have been completely counterproductive.

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

It’s a white pill for sure. Whether by accident or on purpose those kids found a way to explode verboten ideas all over the conservaverse. The way they did it by asking completely reasonable questions left their Civnats with their pants down. They usually roll out the smearmobile and crush these people before anyone notices. Which is what they’re doing but many a normie are asking “Okay, but what’s the answer to the questions they asked you?” The machine was designed so those questions never get asked in public. They may crush Fuentes, but another sleeper cell will rise to… Read more »

Yves Vannes
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DB, we will see things speed up rapidly on the day our enemies take control of the executive branch. Their heavy-handedness, suicidal impatience and blood lust to crush whiteness will force our tribe to act.

BTW, do you still have your travel blog?

Da Booby
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The travel bits are actually just random posts on the regular blog. The Booby may have to adjust it so there’s a section just on his travels for ease of locating. The last travel post was on The Bourbon Trail. He’s currently trying to finish a post on Krakow, but the Booby’s always pressed for time.

Thanks for reading and asking, though.

Sperg Adjacent
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Sperg Adjacent

The most unforgivable thing is that they know. They know that demographics will sweep away all of our institutions. Sweep away our country.

But to get a little more short-term career benefit, they pretend they don’t know.

I saw Matt Walsh take a question about demographics from one of the Groypers. From the meticulously evasive answer, it was clear that he knew exactly what is what he had to evade.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Matt Walsh; who vamps off Catholic Housewives by playing to them.
He should stick to that gig, its not harmful. Back in the salon Mr. Walsh, the men are talking.

Da Booby
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They know, but they also know they need demographic growth to keep fractional reserve banking systems solvent. That’s what they truly care about.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Mud plus water = more mud.
Mud solvency explained

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Does anyone read the cucks (any more)? Fuentes should just ignore them and focus on his main goal. Maybe we stop talking about them here, too. Unless something really funny happens to one of them, like one of their wives shows up on xhamster or something. Honestly, I never read any of these guys or sites. American Greatness seems ok for a bigger site; in place of AmericanConservative. The word/brand “Conservative” really is irredeemably toxic now, and should be abandoned in earnest.

ChetRollins
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ChetRollins

The coordinated attack was clearly an attempt to deplatform, and needed to be called out as such. Their free speech stance was one of their last rhetorical weapons, and they stupidly threw it away.

Now that the damage is done to their side, he should ignore them.

Hilltop
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Hilltop

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The fact is that we are giving them oxygen. And even put them in a position to strike moral postures–ridiculous. Nobody would have paid attention to them at all if Fuentes hadn’t attacked them.

But because they are card-carrying members of globohomo, they might be able to get some of our guys deplatformed. (They already got Fuentes kicked off the Apple store.)

Perhaps better just to keep redpilling in our own way, and let people come to us.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

They’ve got tons of (((money))) and lots of dittoheads and young ‘libertarian’ types (like I was years ago) who will go along with them…

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

i pity the young person that sees david french as inspiring!?

the Russians
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The progressive conservatives in Ontario Canada campaigned on removing preschool sex Ed from the curriculum, they’ve just endorsed the opposite. I honestly would have been surprised if they’d done anything other than…

UFO
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UFO

>get elected bigly on a platform that actually has minority support (social conservatism).
>immediately stab everybody in the back, increase spending, placate the teachers union, and ramp up Globohomo.

Fuck the Conservative parties. I can tell you firsthand that it is full of liberals and gays, and of course always seems to have a jew at the helm of whatever event. It is rotten to the core.

Doug got cucked by the same people who ran Scheer’s campaign – they are supposed to lose, and supposed to not get minority support through social conservatism.

John Smith
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I am content to let our Blog host wade through that dreck too for the most part – but we need to stay on top of them ourselves too, Karl. It’s important to know what your enemies are thinking. Once you have that you have the inside track on thwarting them – which is something the deplorables are getting very, very good at. In the days ahead we will have to get much better at it too. Do as Z does. He almost never gets mad or irate over any of this. He laughs at it and studies it, and… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Zman *is* my main point of awareness for what the various cucks are up to. If they do something he deems worthy of a post, then i check back in on them. But i never read their work directly.

Marko
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Marko

Yes I agree. Ignore the cucks until one of their Bunny Lewbowskis shows up in Log Jammin’.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

I don’t recall ever reading any of those cucks. I’ve been arguing with normie conservatives over neocon bullshit since the early 2000’s. And in fact take some pride in the fact that I told neocon shitheads that I’d argue with BEFORE they Iraq war was even begun: ” You’re going to lose, it’s going to cost WAY more than you’re claiming – and you’re going to get some sort of radical leftist Democrat elected President on the next election cycle” All of which proved out to be completely true. The problem is – it appears a lot of people –… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

Fuentes should just ignore them and focus on his main goal. Maybe we stop talking about them here, too.

Fuentes is doing the right thing, straight out of Rules for Radicals, he personalizes the target and freezes it, makes the ConInc’ers live by their own rules.

Besides, people need a speedbag to train on in order to git gud, and ConInc provides. Charlie Kirk is just the beginning, our goal must be to groyp the God Emperor himself by the nutsack.

Exile
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Exile

Agree that ignoring them would be a huge mistake. The cultural/meme war is the primary “inside the Empire” theater of action for the near-to-mid-future.

Always be closing. Stay thirsty for their tears.

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Felix_Krull

Agree that ignoring them would be a huge mistake.

It’s not about ignoring or fighting them, it’s about using them as props in our propaganda the way a whole generation of post-Gamergate youtubers launched a career on the shoulders of the SJWs. At the moment, Fuentes is riding TPUSA like a pony (thanks, Z) and we should laugh and throw peanuts.

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

True, but they are advertising him.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

So I’ve been thinking about the Groyper War lately: The objective of this conflict (seems to me, anyway) is to replace Beltway NeoCon Cuckservatism with American Nationalism. This is a worthwhile goal, one I supported in 15-16, and one I support now. That being said, if it works and we win, what then? Cuckservatives fetishize losing and don’t know how to fight back… The Left is 180 degrees opposite and knows how to win. If we still had 1979 demographics, our victory would be assured. Problem is, we don’t. I’m not saying we shouldn’t repeal and replace these disgusting cucks,… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

We have to watch out for the rise of a European style fake nationalist party, to gatekeep against the dissident right and use more effective pseudo nationalist rhetoric to run out the clock on our demographic decline.

The gatekeepers don’t have power, the people behind them have power and those people remain unchallenged.

It’s not even clear how they could possibly be challenged by these tactics.

Meanwhile, the AmNats are literally (not figuratively) begging to be co-opted, embraced into conservatism inc and given jobs as gatekeepers.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Sorry but the demographic train has already left the station. Forget immigration for a minute and look at white % of births in key states:

Arizona – 41%
Florida – 43%
Georgia – 44%
Illinois – 53%
North Carolina – 53%
Texas – 33%
Virginia – 55%

We’re cooked as a part of a democracy. Separation in some form is our only hope. No need to waste energy on what was.

Ant Man Bee
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“Separation in some form is our only hope.”

Correct.

This is no longer a political problem, it is now simply a math problem.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

We all have to understand that it’s over. We will be ruled by others under the current system. At best, whites could form coalitions with other groups to keep the looting and subjugation to a minimum, but make no mistake, the days of of whites controlling the government unilaterally are coming to a close.

Carving out a semi-autonomous community is our best medium-term hope. Carving out a fully-autonomous homeland is our long-term goal.

sheliak
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sheliak

Regrettably true.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

I agree with you.

To clarify, when I said That a fake nationalist party threatens to ” run out the clock on our demographic decline.”

I meant that our demographic decline to a physically powerless, south African style minority, which they can then repress more directly.

We still have options to save ourselves, but those options won’t last forever, and fake nationalism is the best way to placate us until we become truly powerless.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Got it. And you’re right.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

How many nonwhite Arizonans and Floridians have turned 18 since 2016?

And you see why I fully expect Chief Lieawatha to take over the big Teepee in January 2021.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

How many newly-enfranchised felons? How many PRs who relocated after hurricane Maria?

sheliak
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sheliak

Restoring felon voter rights was the death knell for red Florida. Harvesting these votes in 2020 will become Florida’s largest agricultural enterprise.

BFYTW
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BFYTW

How many relocated yankees, now new Floridians, secondary to repeal of the SALT deduction?

Exile
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Exile

On the brighter dark side of that, that would mark the GOP’s swan song, at last.

The Right Doctor
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The Right Doctor

I’ve pointed this out here before. It’s simple math. About 5% of the population has turned over by normal means (birth and death) every four years. Then add immigration leading to new voters. Your homework is to compare and contrast the voting habits of those who have died versus the noobs. Then go find an important election that was decided by less than five percent. Heck, the change would be closer to ten percent once you subtract five from one and add it to the other. Loading us into the boxcars will be a winning proposition at the polls within… Read more »

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

I suspect white Democratic Presidential candidates will go extinct in 15 years. Minorities will want their own candidates.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Nonsense. Z’s dictum about not voting our way out of this may prove true in the very long run, but in the short run it is autistic defeatism. In the current year, ceding the electoral ground without a fight makes no sense on any level. As I have said before and will say again, we ought to vote our way through what is coming. Democracy in a multi-racial polity my indeed be a racial headcount. But who counts the heads can be as important as the heads themselves. And the automatic assumption that this dooms a minority is not only… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Similarly, this Red Dawn fantasy of wilderness enclaves is more delusion. You will be destroyed by drones without even seeing the enemy. Yes, buy land. But it would be better attempt to turn a whole county or state into an enclave. Who has a Red Dawn fantasy here at the Zman bar??? When I and other talk about building Communities it never has been about hiding out…It has always been about gaining the power to do things for our people and take away that power from those who hate us…We understand the numbers game and once one area is secured… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Lineman,

We just need a home base. A community where someone hires you after you’re fired for having bad thoughts. A community that helps you buy a house because the banks won’t. A community that has a community center for our kids. A community where we organize political/advocacy groups. A community that sticks together against the media onslaught.

We get the one home base, and it’s over. It will grow and other communities will pop up. We win. TPTB know this. It’s their greatest fear – and it should be.

This isn’t some fantasy. Other groups already have these communities.

Lineman
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Lineman

Right there with you Brother which is why I’m willing to help any that want to relocate to my Valley…

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

You’re absolutely right. I didn’t mean that we shouldn’t do all of the things you mention. But we can no longer rely on our overwhelming numbers to get Senators, governors, judges, zoning officials, etc. We have to fight for our tribe the way others do.

I wasn’t saying we should quit. I was saying that we need to change tactics.

Exile
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Exile

We can (and have to) walk and chew gum the same time. There’s a place for both a political holding action inside the Wire and havens outside of it. That way if either you or we are wrong, we have another strategy to pivot to already in place. No one here should think I’m ever saying “this is the One Way We Must Do This” – I try to convey the opposite, sometimes not as well as I should. Very few strategies and tactics are 100% mutually exclusive. The main things about anti-fragilty are 1) plan for what happens if… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

As Lineman says, you’re flogging a “Red Dawn” straw-man – and engaging in All-Powerful Magic Jew theory as well. We’re planning for historically-proven Soviet-style dissidence, not some cheesy dystopian fantasy. Think Siberia, not Swayze.

If we can’t even evade the Shlomobots in the wilderness by going grey-man and off-grid, convince me how Shlomo’s going to let you vote him out of power instead.

PrimiPilus
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PrimiPilus

These percentages do not apply uniformly across the landscape — far from it. That reality provides a path for us …. painful, but a path nonetheless.

Yes, the urban areas are lost to us. Yes, the urban white upper castes hate us. But the urban social-demographic model shows us a glimpse of their desired endstate — White elites leading with non-white auxiliary elites, and a teeming mass of poor and non-whites as their project and justification.

And yes, at present they are running the board politically. But that can backfire …..

Marko
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Marko

I don’t think AmNats are looking to become gatekeepers for Conservative Inc. Yeah they want power & relevance – everyone does – and maybe some would like to infiltrate the GOP. But don’t underestimate the power of the red pill. Once you have taken it, you can’t just go back to David Frenchism, and you’re much less likely to accept a bag of money from Cohen & Co. A pan-American nationalist party will be (by nature) watered-down, but think of it this way: it would be like 2016-era Trump but with more intellectual force and much more principle.

Major Hoople
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Major Hoople

The Con Inc. grifters ground the tea party into dust by moving in, sucking up the boomer cash (yeah, mine among them), and leaving everyone involved disgusted.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Well, the first thing I’d do is stop all immigration. As Steve Sailer has said, “when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.” The rest of it, we’ll figure out as we go.

Lineman
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Lineman

Yea but we don’t have that option because we are not the ones with the power to do so…So you know my solution and until someone comes up with a better one I’m sticking to that…

Exile
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Exile

As to Empire politics, keep our ambitions limited – local third parties in our communities with a long term goal of having state-level candidates in the future in small pop states where our numbers are strong and we have a good affinity with the existing base, right and/or left. Even this is a goal that would likely take one-two entire generations to start generating positive results. We’re just looking for guys who can be our eyes and ears in the enemy gubmint camp and throw a monkey wrench into the gears for us once in awhile. We’re not going to… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

The objective of this conflict (seems to me, anyway) is to replace Beltway NeoCon Cuckservatism with American Nationalism

The objective of groyping is to groyp, to always put the pressure on whatever establishment is in charge. Groying is about the road, not the destination.

Exile
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Exile

Groyp and the Art of Monkey-F*cking Maintenance.

Nice, senpai Krull.

Jim Smith
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Jim Smith

“At this point, the question is whether they can withstand the rising tide of the dissident right.” They cannot. Exhibit #1: Trump’s Presidential victory and remaking of the Republican Party. Exhibit #2: The withering and ejection of the Never-Trump conservatives and Republicans. Exhibit #3: The steadily rising tide of the non-conservative-inc Right, whether it be called the Alt-Right, Nationalist Populism, the HBD movement, the Dissident Right, race realists, anti-population-replacement through resistence to open borders and unlimited immigration, or any of the myriad of right-nationalist parties steadily gaining ground throughout Europe. Whether these salutary developments are going to be able to… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Conservatism Inc. CAN withstand it.

Individual gatekeepers may lose their positions but that’s a feature, not a bug. Turnover keeps things fresh.

All they have to do is buy our loyalty with empty promises and rhetoric, get into office, do nothing, make sure WE do nothing and allow things to move leftward along with the inexorable demographic tide.

Rinse and repeat for like a couple decades, with it getting easier and easier as time goes by.

Chet Rollins
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Chet Rollins

Can’t speak for Fuentes, but a lot of them understand that there needs to be at least a mini-collapse for things to drastically change. The purpose of these tactics is to build rapport and group cohesion so we’re ready.
That and it’s fun to dunk on grifters.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Tell that to Bill Kristol….

ChrisZ
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ChrisZ

Great comments today, CB.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

Let’s face it: Reince Preibus & Johnny DeStefano, staffed Trump’s administration with “never Trumpers,” open-borders advocates, neocon interventionists, and Obama holdovers. MAGA were all fired or “resigned.”

One of Many Georges
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One of Many Georges

Looking through those posts and tweets, what strikes me is that there is nothing conservative about these people. (Conservative in the literal sense.)

All of their views just seem to be left-liberal. One of their guys even said, “American conservatism is conserving American liberalism.” Appreciate the honesty, I guess?

The fact that they use the left-wing scarlet-letter smears (racist, anti-semite, homophobe, etc.) so instinctively and unironically shows what side of the divide they’re on.

MikeCLT
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MikeCLT

David French wears a Romney hat in his twitter pic. Enough said.

Marko
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Marko

If you’re a “man” who wears clothing with another man’s name on it, you are…not a man.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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The answer to last question; NO.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Yesterday on twitter, John Cardillo, after clashing with Nick Fuentes, agreed to debate him. Hopefully Cardillo won’t back out.

the Russians
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Noticing that the deep state is demanding that the deep state must be destroyed and be replaced with the deep state…. Did I miss anyone?

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Confronting and humiliating conservatives is good BUT The troubling aspect of this is that the major e-celebs associated with this DO believe in conservatism, want to save it and want jobs in Conservative INC. Meanwhile, the gatekeepers they are sparring with do not have any power, they are just the hired help. They can’t even get people banned from social media. So, this is like, hirelings fighting with potential hirelings who want their jobs. We have to watch out for a situation where we trade one set of gatekeepers for another, more cynical and effective set of gatekeepers, who are… Read more »

Member

E-celebs. Lol.

Yak-15
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Yak-15

One way to get people to understand your opinion is to start with the absurdist opposition and work backwards until you find the line where the person stops agreeing with you. For example, let’s say that the British under Churchill were actually interested in the genocide if India. Let’s say they were completely successful and that every single Indian person died. Let’s also say that the British colonists residing there saw the wisdom and truth of hinduism and all faucets of the Indian society. Let’s say that they went about adopting Indian society perfectly on down to the caste system… Read more »

Screwtape
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Screwtape

The awkward contortions of these jesters is only possible in men without chests. The court selects these males precisely for their ability to don the hats and cloaks of the guild. Slippery thespians trading upon the principles and hopes of better people for their three pieces of silver. When untested by the risk and sacrifice of life’s tradeoffs, a man’s principles are nothing but empty promises of what a better man might do. These characters read their lines with arrogance, blinded by the light of the stage. Unaware that most of the audience has left the theater in disgust. These… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Capitalism and democracy are rich media for the growth of elite parasites and social pathogens. Rewarding the most agressively opportunistic and duplicitous members of society with the keys to the government Masserati rental can only end like Ferris Mueller’s Day Off.

Screwtape
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Screwtape

Ain’t that the sad truth Exile. Dark triad times.

I look at all these conservative pundits Z names here and I can see them standing around, puffing their hollow chests, and leaning on that Ferrari up on blocks.

Their smug self-regard is cringe-inducing as they congratulate each other on the genius of running the odometer back on ‘those liberals!’.

Then some pesky kid points to the odometer, “um, guys its not running backward”. So naturally they scream at him, “you racist! Can’t you see the wheels spinning?!”

Dutch
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Dutch

When the epitaph is written, it might simply read, “They saw what they wanted to see”.

Exile
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Exile

“They had one I but could not see. In that land of the blind, every one-I’d man was king.”

Member

Which societal organization schemes are *not* rich media for the growth of elite parasites and social pathogens?

Barnard
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Barnard

I wonder if Scott McConnell and Pat Buchanan were surprised at how quickly The American Conservative degraded into what it has become.

I keep thinking at some point the donor money will dry up for stuff like National Review, but Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes and David French were able to get big funding ($6 million) to write the same nonsense they have been peddling for years. As the older generation dies out the readership for them will continue to shrink, but this is a long process as long as they have money.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

$6,000,000 is really nothing among the oligarchy. There is an unimaginable amount of money sloshing around the world looking for a place to go. Uber, for example, is still in business after losing $5,000,000,000 in three months. These people have more money than sensible places to put it.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

6 Million, you say? Oh Gawd!!!!

R Moffett
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R Moffett

“He penned a tantrum that reads like an interview with a teenage girl after an accident.” It is writing like this that makes me happy all over. What a gem.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Z is a master of rhetoric.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

more a master of the bon mot, IMO 🙂

Demeter Last
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Demeter Last

He’s the 13/50 of dissident thought.

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During the last recession, I had cause to travel from my home in the Midwest to see my sister in D.C. and it happened to be that I rode on Amtrak. Looking back, it was like train ride from the Hunger Games movies where I rode for miles through struggling communities like the one I lived in only to reach the outskirts of the Imperial Capitol and the whole thing changed. In the D.C. suburbs houses were selling as soon as they were listed, sometimes for more than the asking price. The stores and malls were jammed with people. The… Read more »

Ant Man Bee
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“The vast majority of people who live in the DC environs are carrion fowl”

And check out how many of them are foreigners.

Or else, (((foreigners))).

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

The houses and townhouses where I live start at about $500,000 nearly every single one of my neighbors is a swarthy somebody from who knows where. Hijabs, africans, and various mystery meats. These are your new overlords plebes, now go be a good worker bug and produce for them. Atomized, no one speaks to anyone else, the only loyalty is to whatever tribe they come from. This is how all of America should look according to (((central planning))).

Member

The amusing thing, at least amusing to me, about it is that these people come home to their super expensive houses after work and then deadbolt themselves into their little fortresses because they are terrified of the diversity they claim is our greatest strength, plus they can’t legally defend themselves. Meanwhile where I live, the houses are older but you can leave the front door unlocked, partly because you know your neighbors and partly because breaking into a house around here is an immediate death sentence.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Ton of Indians and Asians have moved in over the past 10 or 20 years. Interesting to watch. They are pushing into white/Jewish neighborhoods and following the Jewish playbook of starting businesses, creating ethnic political/advocacy organizations and running for office.

The Jews that I know aren’t pleased. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we’ve reach or passed Peak Jew. They won’t control the Asians and Indians the way they control whites. Not going to happen. Also, whites are noticing how these other groups organize. It’s changing how whites think.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

I don’t think people in our thing realize what it is really like here. I –despise– about 90% of the people I interact with on a daily basis. This description from Z is accurate for most- “revealed to be hollow, soulless men without chests”. The famous DissRight quote was ‘small souled bugmen’ and the vast majority are –exactly– that. These limp noodle armed ‘men’ who wander around with just a few simple goals in mind: 1) How do I extract wealth from those who need money the most since I smugly know they are worthless people 2) How do I… Read more »

Milestone D
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Milestone D

I live inside the Beltway. It’s all true.

Massive levels of affluence utterly devoid of community.

Exile
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Exile

Dated a girl somewhat recently who was an orbiter-level part of that when she was younger. If she’d stayed “down on the farm,” marriage material. After a couple of years in the Swamp, she’s toxic for life (30s now).

She despises her roots and small town values and loves the elites, doesn’t realize she’ll never be allowed to climb their ladder and was only being used while she was young, hot and naive. Cats and the Wall are all that her future holds now.

3g4me
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3g4me

I grew up in that environment (DC burbs). Only a handful of visits back in the past 30 years. Each time it was worse and worse, both demographically and because my perspective was further and further to the right. Cannot think of a single soul there I’d try to save (including those related by blood) if/when things start to break down.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Yep. I live in the DC area. Drove with my family over the summer to beach down south. Part of the trip was off the interstate through a bunch of small towns and medium-sized cities/suburbs. My kids couldn’t believe it. Small, run-down houses. Old cars. Old stores.

I told them, “Take a look, kids. This is what most of the country looks like outside of the nice suburbs of the major cities. Remember how lucky you are.” For once, I think that they listened.

Lineman
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Lineman

Oh I don’t know Brother I think if you saw my Community you would say my family was the lucky ones😉

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

True. I’d rather live in a small, run-down house in a town filled with my own than a $1 million house in Arlington or McLean. Hell, I grew up in a small, run-down house in a town filled with my own so I know the difference.

My main point was that white DC suburb kids have no clue what’s out there. But you’re right, these kids also don’t what it’s like to live where whites are proud to be white and don’t have to listen to diversity lectures every day.

james wilson
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Garet Garrett wrote of 1932 Washington as a worn, dusty town. Cars were seen outside dwellings being packed to the roof as people abandoned DC. Then came 1933, and it rained.

Member

Maybe it’s because I live in one of the poorest counties in the country, but things don’t really seem that bad to me, here. It’s like a sanctuary. I know my view is warped in a way — I know so many dirt-poor people, living in run-down trailers, but there are also so many lovely, tidy little farms and hill homes. I find cities so viscerally unpleasant anymore — I was forced to travel to major cities around the country and internationally in my previous jobs — that all that so-called wealth doesn’t attract me at all. I smell the… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Conservative Inc is finished because the failure of its strategy is starting to become obvious and will become more apparent as the GOP starts to lose election after election. As the Dems permanently take over the presidency (and thus the judiciary) as well the House, it will be hard to ignore.

Also, as Dem presidential candidates begin that the path to victory is winning the primary and not the general election, they will cater more and more to blacks and crazy anti-whites. The mask will come off, and whites will notice. Conservative Inc.’s colorblind BS will become laughable.

Member

Since its inception, the Republican Party has been the party of Wall Street. It went into hibernation a few times (Goldwater, Reagan), but its essential tie to Big Business never changed. If the Trump transformation of the GOP is successful (and I believe there’s a looooong way to go), the liberal alliance with globalist corporations, already ardent love in bloom, will make the Democrat Party the home of Wall Street.

Screwtape
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Screwtape

Will make? The party lines approach is long past. The uniparty only divides over how public treasure is to be spent to benefit the various factions. That, and the Dems are inclined towards evil while the Repubs are just greedy and stupid. D’s want us dead or enslaved, R’s want is shopping and taxed. Both need us distracted and divided over ‘party lines’ which are about as rigid as our southern border. That said, as reformed wall street whore I can attest that the D was the dominant party on the street for my tenure, mid 90’s thru 2009, and… Read more »

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The Republican Party needs to be die and, unlike the phoenix, stay dead. Until then, it does not hurt to examine how we got here. Many times, I post with those in mind who are new to our movement and need information which helps them transition from the two-party delusion to what you so accurately describe in your post.

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Exactly this. I have written at length here about watching my former home state of Colorado undergo the transition from a reliably red state in the late ’90s to a completely blue state in 2018, largely as a result of 30+ years of sanctuary city policies by Denver/Boulder and the influx of transplants from California. The Republican party is utterly irrelevant in Colorado now. This process will be repeated in AZ, TX, GA, FL, NC, etc. over the course of the next 10-20 years. Trump may pull off another surpise victory in 2020, but by 2024 or 2028 it’s game… Read more »

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

The boomers seem to be thoroughly disconnected from what is going on in our culture and how quickly things have gone Clown World. In just a few short years, we’ve gone from civil unions to gay marriage to “bake that cake” to women’s sports being taken over by trans athletes, Drag Queen Story Hour, trans ideology in our elementary schools, and children who are actually “transitioning” at younger and younger ages. We are talking about issues where there is no room for compromise — it’s full-on child abuse. It’s really picked up in just the last 2 years or so.… Read more »

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When speaking to Boomers, you have to be careful to speak their language and make it personal. Cultural issues such as baking cakes, drag queen story hour, transgenders, don’t directly impact most of us. This is particularly true of Boomers, most of whom have already finished raising kids.

Boomers are racing toward retirement. At this stage in their lives they care about money and health. You gotta hit where it hurts–right in their 401k/IRA.

Lineman
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Lineman

Or show them the articles of the foreigner beating, sexually assaulting, stealing from the elderly in the care homes and then ask them what if it was them…That seems to be an eye opener…

3g4me
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3g4me

For a lot of people it’s their parents right now – and they’re still in denial and insisting D’Jamallah loves their old White mother. This helped with my very Christian friend who only sees top 10% Negroes in her small business – her elderly parents live with her but she’s well aware of what goes on in the various group and nursing homes – I’ve made certain of that.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

” well aware of what goes on in the various group and nursing homes”

Can confirm. I have got lots of stories about that. Sadly.

The Right Doctor
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The Right Doctor

Right on. I’m a boomer. Besides social security and my house, my IRA is all I have. I know I’m ahead of the game compared to others who didn’t earn (and correspondingly save) as much as I have, but that also makes me worth more Whitey Points when it’s time to thin the financial herd for the good of the collective. I use this approach with my neighbors. Those who have pensions think they are safe. Then I point out the facts of life to those – no small percentage here in Arizona – whose pensions are from CalPERS. Those… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

California used to be a red state (before St. Ronnie’s amnesty for nothing) what do you think turned Cali red?

Dutch
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Dutch

Despite what Hollywood will tell you, it was oil, land, and aerospace that made California what it used to be. All done by naturally red state types. Economic immigrants moving in and sending remittances home, along with kids who never had to work for a living, were the undoing of all of it.

TomA
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TomA

This post explains why I assert that we are not going to talk our way out of the mess we are in. The so-called opinion leaders in our society (as explicated in the numerous examples provided by Zman) are solely men of words. And what they have to say is utterly worthless. Please God, give me an ally who can swing a baseball bat.

Dutch
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Dutch

When the people who are not us are actually fully in charge (which is soon), the system will operate in a manner that is not ours. Simply look around at how much of the world operates, and see our future. Overlay that with the idea that emotion will drive much of the decision making, and the future has a lot of pain and sorrow baked into it.

TomA
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TomA

The ancient Greeks chose Gods like Zeus and Apollo and mortals like Hercules and Achilles as their role models. Our current culture elevates sniveling whiners like Goldberg and French to the appearance of wise leadership. How far we have fallen.

Josh
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Josh

Over this year, the scales have fallen from my eyes. It started after Ace and some others linked your articles, whether on purpose or by accident. Now I just have to figure out how not to drive my normie friends and wife away.

Stina
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Stina

I need help getting to my husband. Ace seems like a good starting place. Thing is, gatekeepers were made for guys like my husband. He has a passive interest in politics and doesn’t rock the boat to much. He’s currently listening to NuanceBro, who I have never heard of.

Lineman
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Lineman

How do you ladies deal with husband’s that are not concerned with their or your futures…That’s a man’s job to be the provider and the protector of their families…

Stina
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Stina

To him, concern for our future is still secure a good retirement and maintain a steady and stable income. He has done an excellent job at that and together, we have avoided significant financial pitfalls common in our age bracket (no debt).

Its convincing him the future might not be so predictable and that that might not be enough without making him feel like he’s failing.

Gentle nudging where it is his idea… you know, be the neck, not the head.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

I really like Ace. His “greatest hits” are gems. His sense of humor coincides with my own. 😉 People who dislike him tend to do so because he’s not as “woke” on certain subjects as they would prefer.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Josh, that’s the general problem: how to not drive away the people needed to fix things.

Exile
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Exile

Kudos to Nick for latching onto a good thing but I think the Groypers are more of grassroots thing – in the sense of what happens when dry grassroots catch fire. Political park rangers like the above-cited cucks are making the same mistakes as Ranger Smith & the boys have made in the woods – over-curation, over-management, and trying to command human nature without first obeying it (or even trying to understand it). Take it from someone who spent much of the summer hanging with Yogi & Boo-Boo – nature’s going to cover the spread on that contest every time.… Read more »

JohnTyler
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JohnTyler

I must live under a rock; I have never heard of any of those people Zman mentions, with the exception of Jonah Goldberg, of whom I know nothing about other than his name. IMHO most normal average folks have no idea who these people are, what they do, etc. and pay no attention to them; they are literally invisible outside of the talking heads that populate Manhattan, DC. Being a prominent “faux” conservative today must be very lucrative these days, because the mainstream media (i.e., the propaganda arm of the demokrat party) can bring these folks on to their “news”… Read more »

Ant Man Bee
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I didn’t pay much attention to Peter Jackson’s “Lord of the Rings” movies when they originally came out, but now various nephews have gotten old enough to be fascinated by them (instead of the books, ARGH!!), so lately I find myself having to watch these movies from time to time. Mostly they are dutiful, laborious, high-production-value illustrations of the basic story, very literalistic, there is very little élan or joie-de-vivre of filmmaking in them. In the whole nine-hour slog, I count very few moments of what one might call un coup de cinema (Galadriel refusing the Ring was noteworthy). Towards… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

At the end, the good guys were bailed out by the people swooping in on eagles. That was us, the U.S., saving Western Civ. There will be no eagles swooping in next time…

3g4me
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3g4me

When, pray tell, did the U.S. “save” Western Civ? WWI? Our utterly unnecessary entry prolonged it and allowed Wilson (may he burn eternally) to rearrange the political and geographical world. WWII? Where we passively allowed thousands of Germans to starve post conflict, and from which sprang the eternal holocaust and ascendancy of the Jews in our society? Since that time we’ve been actively engaged in destroying Western Civ and propagandizing Europe to hurry up and die faster. We’re the black hats in this narrative.

Dutch
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Dutch

Black hats, as it turned out. From a Christian perspective, which is what LOTR largely is, we saved the West from the German pagans, and sort of, from the Soviet pagans. But there are so many angles to the whole thing, in the real world.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

At the risk of getting LOTR-spergy on you, actually the movies subverted multiple themes and belittled important characters from the books. This is not an exhaustive list, just off the top of my head (been years since I’ve seen the movies). 1. Aragorn. Book Aragorn is proud to learn he is the descendant of Isildur (who having cut the Ring from Sauron’s hand, foolishly/pridefully kept it instead of throwing it into Mt Doom right there). Although it is universally recognized that Isildur failed of his Test, he is still honored in memory by his descendants. Movie Aragorn (movie versions hereafter… Read more »

3g4me
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3g4me

Mike C: Very well done, actually, even if a bit lengthy. I generally detest movie adaptations. The ring trilogy wasn’t as bad as most, but you’ve really detailed just how they altered both characters and themes to suit their narrative and commercial needs.

Ant Man Bee
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@Mike C Well I’d say it’s great that these very good works of craftsmanship (and occasionally of art) had a strong impact on you and that you enjoyed them and understood them and got nourished by them. That’s what they’re there for. And if LOTR inspired you to look so carefully and write in such an informed and passionate way, then that is really great. But it sounds to me like you don’t know what I mean by a “coup de theatre” or a “coup de cinema”. You probably have to have lived soaked in art for a long time… Read more »

Mike_C
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Mike_C

AMB: You’re correct, I’m not an initiate into the mysteries or inner circles of cinema. I’m always interested in learning new things (particularly insights into subcultures) so any steer toward “good guys” would be appreciated. (FWIW I strongly feel that the majority of today’s published critics are either hack shills, or psychologically deeply-damaged losers, or both. Why else would ugliness and deviance [1] be so fulsomely praised.) Now I’m not sure if you mean I enjoyed the books (yes) or the movies (yes, but not nearly as much as I would have hoped). If I’d thought out and edited my… Read more »

Ant Man Bee
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OK here is chapter one of the good guys. It isn’t even down to reading yet (that is more complex and comes later). This is just listening and cultural adjustment. Something a lot of people don’t seem to understand is that the so-called British Invasion rock groups represented a quite serious lliterary and artistic fusion between Modernism and late Humanism. Sort of a bridge between Blake and Coleridge/Wordsworth. Yes, they were really that good. (And I’m not Boomer-bloviating; I’m an X-er myself, more of a Talking Heads/Ramones/Patti Smith type if I had my druthers, just being an honest critic here.).… Read more »

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ReturnOfBestGuest

Really? Different strokes, etc. I thought the Battle of Helms Deep was the best thing ever when I saw it in the cinema lo these many years. . .

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

Long time lurker, first time commenter. Keep up the good work, all — the message is getting out, as slow and painful as that seems. I want to brainstorm about the question of “what can we all, as individuals, do?” All of us have responsibilities with our jobs, families, businesses, etc., and many of us probably can’t afford to be doxed or become public figures. And we all know better than to think we can vote our way out of this. Not saying don’t vote… but that alone won’t do it. If we want to win, we need to increase… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Albino, that’s a good start. Now what happens when you are the only one in the neighborhood with the lights on and supplies of water? The next step is to surround yourself with like-minded people, people who have their own skills and supplies, so they don’t need to help themselves to yours. They would then also have a similar mindset, so you can all look out for each other. You need to avoid The Man, and you need to be able to trust your neighbors for support in doing so 🙂

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

“surround yourself with like-minded people” — you are obviously right. I wish I had a good answer on that one. I already moved from a blue state to a red state some years ago to escape the crazies. That bought me some time, and I don’t regret it one bit, but now my red state is turning blue due to immigration and the list of plausible places left to move is getting shorter and shorter. Realistically, I also don’t see myself leaving the US (and even then, same question — where would I go?). So now what? I’m actively thinking… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

At this point, it is not about the state, it is about the neighborhood. Bottom up, at the local, micro level, that’s how we need to do things now.

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

Demographically, my neighborhood is mainly white shitlib progs. I can infer this from the yard signs + the occasional neighbor conversations + I know the voting results in this area. I’m pretty sure most of my neighbors would sell me out in a heartbeat. Wouldn’t in a million years dream of putting up a Trump sign or anything of the sort. Meanwhile, I’m sure a bunch of them chose this area because of, ahem, the schools. I’m sure plenty of others on here live in areas with a similar demographic. In an environment like that, where would you start looking… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Sounds like you need a different neighborhood. If you are the only one with water and power when things go sideways, not only are they going to help themselves to it, they will consider it the right thing to do, as stealing from bad people will not only be proper, it will be noble, in their eyes. I’d rather be in a “good” neighborhood in a bad state, than a “bad” neighborhood in a good state. Things happen at the neighborhood level first, when the flag goes up and things get spicy.

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

I’m open to “a different neighborhood” as being the answer… just not something that will happen tomorrow.

I just looked at a 2016 election map by precinct. Nothing really new here, but it confirmed what I already knew about my neighborhood. Not the bluest neighborhood in my city (sadly, I could do much worse), but not good.

Aside from a few small pockets of light red, I’d have to get out to the exurbs before I see any pro-Trump precincts.

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ReturnOfBestGuest

A few years back a political yard sign appeared on the boundary between us and next-door neighbor (a no-no as homes are handed down and everyone wants to be on good terms). They thought it was us. We thought it was them. Nope. Rando.

Lineman
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Lineman

If you have read here awhile you would have seen most of your questions have already been addressed…Exile, Citizen, Dutch, etc have all talked about what you have expressed…Read some past articles if you truly want knowledge…

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MossHammer

AW. Be less accommodating to the Orcs. Like Da Booby says, withdraw support everywhere…

Now, careful diligence for association, well, if you crack that nut let us all know. Proximity should help, like mindedness found in existing groups…so far, my casual conversation tests have not yielded any fruit. I’ll keep kissing frogs. We should bump into each other eventually. I just hope it’s not in a train car.

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

Well, let’s talk through this. I agree with the principle of “withdraw support”. I love the idea of defunding our enemies — it’s one of the most immediate and practical things we can all work on. Don’t spend money at businesses that hate you. At the same time, I also still need to eat, heat my home in the winter, etc. I can’t spend zero dollars and still survive. There are also those “nice to haves” that I could theoretically give up, but are we really going to give up things like “travel to see our families over the holidays?”… Read more »

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First, I had to start telling people I’m not a Republican, I’m just someone who does not vote for democrats. Then I had to start telling people I’m not a conservative in the Conservative Inc. sense. At this point the entire label exercise is fraught at best. No sense making an *ss of oneself by picking a shiny new label that almost immediately topples over onto your head. Remember the Brights? Heh. Frank Zappa said, “I’m not a cynic, I’m a realist.” I’ll go one more. At this point I am a cynic and I don’t care who is turned… Read more »

james wilson
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I tell people that I am not conservative, rather I am right wing under Conquest Second Law. They invariably feel forced to ask what that is.

Lineman
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Lineman

Yea but if you made it to a cynic you might as well further your journey and become a racist sexist bigot😉

3g4me
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3g4me

Lineman: This. Back in 2015 I used to get a kick out of answering telephone political surveys. The dead silence or pleased chuckle I got when I stated I was a fascist, in a warm and friendly voice, always made my day.

Evil Sandmich
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Evil Sandmich

Politics is dead, it’s all who/whom. Gun control? Who do they want to take guns away from, and who are they letting keep their guns? Repeat for just about anything, it makes all “red vs blue” whites question, momentarily, their ridiculous stands.

JEB
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JEB

I really would have liked to have liked Nick Fuentes. But in the first video of his that I saw (can’t find it now, sorry) he started going on and on in jokey mock outrage over the “200,000 Jews that the Nazis murdered.” I’m sorry, but if this doesn’t count as Holocaust denial I don’t know what does.

Ant Man Bee
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“Holocaust denial” is not a thing. Critical historical analysis is a thing. Being jailed or ostracized simply for engaging in scholarly critical historical analysis which goes against Those Who Must Not Be Named is most definitely a curious, interesting thing. Questioning the sacralization and valorization of an ugly historical event which is, after all, really just one more ugly historical event in a very, very long line of ugly historical events in the context of what was, after all, /the largest most violent war in human history/, well that is a thing. Wondering aloud why One Particular Historical Event just… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Brother some people’s brains just shut down when they are presented with things that make them uncomfortable instead of searching for what is truth…They have been so indoctrinated that they have learned to love their tormentor and will defend him against the ones trying to open their eyes…None are so blind than those who have eyes but will not see…

3g4me
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3g4me

Ant Man Bee: Bravo. Word perfect.

Juri
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Juri

In certain point, Holy Hoax must denied. This is the root myth of what makes white ethno state monstrous evil .And of course causes precedent. When we keep up one comfort lie, there will be soon another`s. Like minorities. When we have one privileged group then everybody else think, but why not us ?

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

“Holy Hoax”. JFC. It’s sewage like this in the comments that turn people off at Zman’s excellent essays and podcasts.

Exile
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Exile

Good luck telling Antifa and the Wokies that you’re not a Nazi because you counter-signalled like this.

If you don’t believe what we’re saying, enjoy the essays and podcasts, but what good is sucking up to people who want you dead and laugh at your misery?

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

What is the point of harping about how many Jews were killed in Hitler’s Reich? How does arguing about that number advance whatever cause you want to advance?

Juri
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Juri

There is not a “cause” what we want but but white ethno states. And economy where man get so much paid that his wife can stay home with 6 children. And healthy culture and most important, abolish private central bank and give currency printing back to the elected Government. When you dont have your own money you cant do anything. All above was also Hitler policy and because of that, we must whitewash this great gentleman to move forward.

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Felix_Krull

What’s so bad about Holocaust denial? Vox is a moon hoaxer, he still makes some good points.

I don’t like Fuentes either to be fair, but that’s his style I just can’t stomach. Too hyper.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Fuentes is a mirror image of Ben Shapiro and just as annoying.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

Joking about how many Jews may have been killed in WW2 is “bad optics” and not the hill I’m willing to die on, that’s for sure. But your comment, to me, just shows how far we have to go. Personally, when sucked into this sort of discussion with someone who might eventually be reasonable, I say that I am confident that lots of Jews (and Romani, and homosexuals, etc, i.e. LOTS of kinds of people — ALWAYS point this out whenever someone brings up The Holocaust) were killed by the Nazis, and that I am willing to accept arguendo it… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

BUT, why is not believing that a crime?

Because it’s a lie. If it were true, it wouldn’t need a bodyguard of legislators, judges and policemen.

JEB
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JEB

I totally agree that Holocaust denial should not be illegal, any more than the other crackpot theories you mention. But most people, including most white people, and definitely including me, believe it actually happened. We are always pontificating about how the Left needs to accept that reality is a hard, cold thing that doesn’t always line up with what they want it to be. But that cuts both ways! If the Holocaust actually happened, and you deny it, then you are aligning yourself with one of the worst mass murderers in human history. This is more than mere bad optics,… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

including most white people, and definitely including me, believe it actually happened.

So, hypothetically, how would you react if you found out that half of the main storylines were not true, if, say, you came to believe there were no gas chambers, that most of the so-called Holocaust is made up of recycled war propaganda?

A lot of /ourguys/ hump the Holocaust because we believe it’s a nuclear land mine waiting to blow up in their faces.

JEB
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JEB

Hypothetically, I find David Cole’s claims (3 to 4 million rather than 6, and some of the death camps actually weren’t) to be borderline plausible, and if he could convince some mainstream historians (convincing me is worthless — I have no expertise) I think it would be a very entertaining spectacle. But it wouldn’t really change how I thought about anything. Is that what you are talking about? Because Cole doesn’t deny the Holocaust, he just claims it wasn’t quite as big as we’ve been led to believe. OTOH, if I were to be convinced that the numbers were off… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

Cole doesn’t deny the Holocaust, he just claims it wasn’t quite as big as we’ve been led to believe. That is, by definition, Holocaust denial. Cole could face serious jail time in some European countries for what he has said – in fact, David Irving served TWO YEARS in an Austrian prison for exactly that crime. For clarity, let me list the four main bones of contention between deniers and traditionalists: 1) The Holocaust was smaller than six million. (Notice we’re only talking about Jews here, the dead goys are not part of the Holocaust, they’re just plain old dead,… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

JEB
Apologies, my reply seems to be stuck in premod. Too many H-words, perhaps.

Exile
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Exile

See my reply to Walrus below – shorter version: I try not to start arguments with those I know don’t agree with me on the JQ. I only reply when they throw the first punch Can the counter-signallers please reciprocate? —— As for whether arguing about the Holocaust is “necessary,” I agree it isn’t, in the sense of wading into the details ala David Cole (for all that he’s right and cites most of the solid sources). My response to Lorenzo below is how I choose to approach it. The high priests of Wokeness base much of their theology on… Read more »

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

Exactly, what’s the win? How exactly are we furthering our cause by even talking about the Holocaust? Will it win even a single person over to our side? How many people will it alienate who otherwise might have considered joining us?

Our #1 goal in the political arena is to get a moratorium on immigration, right? If so, then everything we do needs to be tied back to that objective. “How does taking this action help us get a moratorium on immigration?”

3g4me
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3g4me

An immigration moratorium might have helped 25 years ago. It’s now far too late. Per birth rates and death rates alone, the current White European population of the US (approx. 57%) will drop rapidly and noticeably in the coming decade.
Besides, (((who))) do you think began and continues the push for the Great Replacement of Whites in the first place?

Albino Walrus
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Albino Walrus

I agree it’s inadequate and we will need more than that. At the same time, we need some kind of big, meaty, easily explained goal to rally behind. If it’s not “immigration moratorium”, what is it?

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

A Safe and prosperous country for our children.

Exile
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Exile

I’m not a “screw the optics” guy but counter-signalling Holocaust skeptics is net-negative. There’s a place for their skepticism in a broad movement attacking open borders. Whatever the real-life details and body-counts, the Holocaust has become a foundational myth of Big Other, along with God-Emperor Lincoln and statue-poem. It’s what they preach to your kids in the pulpits of academia and media to make them support their own displacement and revile you as a revanchist hater. Tearing down those myths is a big part of the red-pilling process. Someone who swallows the Second Founding mythology of America whole can’t help… Read more »

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

If you don’t want non-white immigrants than you don’t like non-whites and that makes you just like Hitler. That’s what they say. What’s your response?

Fuentes wasn’t even really denying it, he’s joking about it. He’s trying to remove it as a sacred cow that is our guiding morality.

And it must be removed from that perch to win. Either by people not caring about it anymore than they do the Holodomor, or undermining it’s veracity.

I don’t care which, because to me it’s just a thing that happened in another country 80 years ago.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

@Felix: Exactly! But rather than make that a statement to people, I’d rather have them come to the realization that something is fishy if it needs the force of law to make it unquestionable. If you tell someone something, it’s the thing that an external agency (i.e. you) told them. If they arrived there by their own reasoning (albeit with a little help) then they are invested in the idea because it’s theirs. @JEB: We might be talking past each other. Or you’re speed-reading what I wrote (this is my polite way of saying that you clearly misunderstand me). I’m… Read more »

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

The only thing any American need say about the holocaust is it isn’t an American problem, and America has real problems to worry about.

It should be made fun of for being a ridiculous sacred cow.

Exile
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Exile

Who cares about the Holocaust?

Seriously.

Nearly a hundred million people died in that war. Few of them died “well.”

Whether six million or six thousand Jews died has no relevance to White Americans in 2019.

You only care because you’ve been taught all your life to believe that Jewish suffering in the Holocaust, whatever it was, was more important than the million-plus American casualties we suffered.

Ask yourself why, as an American, that Ashkenazi Jew deaths from nigh-on a century ago should matter more than the deaths of our own grandfathers.

Dutch
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Dutch

After the events of the last few decades, a variation of the “trust but verify” approach seems appropriate. Perhaps “assume to be true but open to alternative possibilities”?

Lineman
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Lineman

You only care because you’ve been taught all your life to believe that Jewish suffering in the Holocaust, whatever it was, was more important than the million-plus American casualties we suffered. Well said Brother… The thing is the Holocaust is used as a weapon against whites identifying as whites and wanting to have a Homeland of their own…It’s used as a cudgel to say this is what happens when whites unify as a people so you are a Nazi for wanting to live amongst your own kind…Also do me a favor and go to your local library and see how… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“Catwoman, TD can’t be stopped! He laid a bacon sandwich on the very steps of the temple– and no one saw a thing!”

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

Nobody here cares about the holocaust.

Shane
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Shane

Great post Z. Our Western World is very black pilling. Here’s a little clip from Nick the Knife. I don’t know why but I find it hilarious. https://youtu.be/Zz7qTOOfzWI
Already the Stormer has made a sea of memes out of it. They’re hot stuff and you can see them at any number of placescomment image

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They will not be able to survive the rising tide of the dissident right.

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Guest
Guest

If you need a bit of a pick up today, the traitor (((Gordon Sondland))) is testifying now and is coming off as a bumbling and confused old man who did not understand what was happening around him, even worse than Mueller during his testimony. And to make matters even better, during his testimony the Ukraine announced an indictment of Burisma that will implicate Bidens and other Democrats, and the FBI has announced they want to interview the “whistleblower” Ciaramella.

It will be fun to watch the MSM pivot into full CYA mode for the Democrats.

dad29
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Can someone explain to me why a woman living in Australia has some sort of informed and useful opinion on US integralist conservatives? Am I missing something here?

Juri
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Juri

This so called Swamp using US economical and political and military power to force their “values” to the entire world. Because of that, US politics became issue in the all world. Lot of people just reading or monitoring and some express their opinion also. From short comments up to using civilian airliner as a weapon to force US out from their home countries.

Cloudswrest
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Cloudswrest

This article had me in tears laughing. It’s right up there with Taki’s best.

Jackson
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Jackson

Isn’t this a dead horse? Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right took down Buckley with a nicely bound Arktos Journal issue dedicated to his legacy of purging people, The analysis easily extended to Jonah Goldberg, at the time. National Review thoughtfully wrote that “Against Trump” issue and invited everyone to get on board, and they did. We are so done with all that now. We have moved on, and I haven’t even heard of most of these people or they are null-ops . David French? Why give him one column inch. Nick Fuentes did a 1 hour interview with Stephan Molyneaux… Read more »

UFO
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UFO

We won??

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We’re making good strides but we can’t give up on anything. 100% effort on all fronts is needed.

Member

“In dissident circles, there is a debate about whether conservatism, as an institution, is worth saving.” Maybe conservatism is like The Matrix. Every 200 cycles you have to kill off just about everyone except a few to repopulate the species and begin anew… I feel like that is what is going on. Small-c conservatism is just a trust in that which works and which has been known over hundreds even thousands of years of human history to work. It has grown into Big-C Conservative Inc, bloated and lacking in self awareness, to the point of instability and irrelevance. As it… Read more »

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

“Junior Woodchucks”. Nice Donald Duck comic book reference

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

Thanks for the white pills.

Member

The tribe has invested a lot in conservative Inc so that there can be the illusion of two sides of the debate. So they can’t afford to let conservative Inc be vanquished without first co-opting the usurpers.

So will they destroy the Groypers, start a war to distract normie republicans or try and find a way to co-opt the Groypers?

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I have a great deal of respect for the groypers movement as they are doing what needs to be done , trying to salvage the rotten system even if it might be futile. That salvage attempt provides the legitimacy for a counter movement , hey we tried our best is a key component of such , if probably when things go to hell. It doesn’t take a majority just a determined group willing to take what they want from a rotten system. Instead of seeing yourself as Romans reclaiming your civilization, try and see yourself as something far closer to… Read more »

M M
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M M

Fuentes is just another shapiro-lite gatekeeper.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
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Senator Hawley seems clothed.

Sen Josh Hawley speech.

Trump et al not mentioned.
Mentioned are Inequality, despair, family, union, yes Churches but above a denunciation of Promethean individuality.

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/senator-josh-hawleys-speech-6th-annual-american-principles-project-gala

Rcocean
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Rcocean

All these Cucks share one thing with me, we didn’t know who Nick Fuentes was until a couple weeks ago. Now, they’re all UP IN ARMS. They’re even passing around a video with all of NF’s “worst comments” – most of which seemed ripped out of context. We need to stop calling people like French and Goldberg “Conservatives” and just call them Progressives, because that’s what they really are. They’re playing for the other team, while wearing our Jersey.

Rcocean
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Rcocean

The Cucks don’t want to fight the Left, or do anything to stop illegal immigration or demographic change, but they DO want to crush Guys like Nick Fuentes. its just a big distraction from what’s important. That’s why I call them Progressives. They police the Right, for the Progressives. They make dishonest arguments in favor of mass immigration for the Progressives. They aren’t conservatives, they’re the Right-wing of the Progressive/left.

Member

It is not that there are men without chests, but that they are zombies with treasure containers filled with gold, to pay off people

Member

Whites can’t ever be “beyond the pale” by definiton.
The Conservative case for intersectionality….

Codex
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Codex

Conservative is and was best used as an adjective to modify something of intrinsic value. Christianity. Japan. Scouting.

Our- my – mistake was elevating it to a political and / or ideological value on its own right. Tell a lie: invite the Father of Lies and all his sons.

Mea culpa.

Keep the adjective, burn the noun with fire.

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