One of the puzzles to the impeachment stuff is why certain elements of the ruling class think this is a productive use of their time. The impeachment show put on by the Democrats last week struck most people as boring and weird. It was mostly a parade of people with funny sounding names babbling about inside baseball. There’s also the fact that the guy appointed to be the master of ceremonies gives people the creeps. Adam Schiff looks like frog peeping through the ice. He is a very odd man.
The bigger issue is no one seems to know what the crime is at the heart of this alleged scandal. We live in an age where the President bombs countries, overthrows governments and sends troops onto foreign soil whenever he likes. Demanding information in exchange for cash hardly seems important. The claim by the outrage mob is that it would have been perfectly fine for Trump to bomb Kiev or overthrow the government, but he crossed the line demanding they investigate criminality.
Of course, nothing in politics is as it seems. This impeachment stuff has other aspects to it. One is the outlandish corruption in Washington. The Biden family appears to have been taking massive bribes from Burisma Holdings, the dodgy energy company that operates within Ukraine. What exactly they were expecting to get is not all that clear, but it must have been worth a lot. They were not paying Hunter Biden tens of millions because he offered wise counsel. They expected something big.
Given the nature of the Washington political elite and Biden’s position within it, it is safe to assume a lot of people were getting paid by elements operating in Ukraine. They played some role in the seditious plot to overturn the 2016 election. Some of the fake information used to defraud the court for FISA warrants came from Ukraine via the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS. Of course, Mueller put Paul Manafort in jail allegedly because he had corrupt dealings in Ukraine.
This small unimportant country on the fringe of Europe seems to play an out-sized role in America politics. People forget that during the Obama administration, the foreign policy elite overthrew the elected government of Ukraine. Victoria Nuland was caught red handed working to disrupt the government in 2014. Nuland is one of those permanent party members who is never affected by elections. No matter who is in the White House, she is part of the team running foreign policy.
Of course, no discussion of Ukraine can be complete without mentioning that our greatest ally seems to have an obsession with the place. The Ukraine impeachment show looked like a Chinese restaurant on Christmas day. It was one Jew after another popping up to talk about the ancestral homeland. As Steve Sailer and many others have noted, American Jews have an obsession with their old stomping grounds in the former Russian Empire. Impeachment was shtetl porn for these people.
The Jewish obsession with that part of the world is a fascinating bit of history that never gets much attention. Third and fourth generation Irish Americans have no interest in Ireland. The same is true of Italians, Poles and even Mexicans. These groups have folded into the white American ethnic group. For Jews, the old country still looms large, even after close to a century. Look at the Russian sector of the foreign policy establishment and it is a sea of little hats.
This is probably why Russia is now a magic word in leftist circles. When the party wants to say something bad about someone, they claim the person is a Russian puppet or fond of Putin. Tulsi Gabbard, who has outrageously taken the position the Democrats had during the Bush years, with regards to endless war, is regularly accused of being a Russian agent by various rage heads on cable. For certain people, Russia will forever be the most hated enemy. The Jews really know how to hold a grudge.
That is one major reason for Ukraine being so important to Washington. It is the dream of these people to have Ukraine included in NATO, thus an official part of Europe. It is a symbolic liberation from the Russian Empire. The people from the Pale of Settlement can then claim to be European. It is an important psychological element animating much of the obsession and paranoia over that part of the world. That old need to not dwell alone is the invisible hand guiding all of this.
Of course, there is the possibility that Jews obsess over that part of the world, because that is where they have hidden the Ark of the Covenant. Instead of a government warehouse in the Midwest, it has been stashed away in the Pale of Settlement. The Jewish people have been there for a long time and their origin story is shrouded in mystery, so maybe that’s the big secret. Is that any more absurd or ridiculous than anything else in the bizarre impeachment charade?
In the end, the weirdness of this whole affair is probably why impeachment has not resonated with the public. All of these odd-looking people with foreign names strike most Americans as outsiders. They are not the sorts of characters that have meaning to them, because these are not people they can relate to as fellow citizens. The pudgy Ukrainian colonel looks like a flunky from a Bond movie. Most Americans wonder why we have a Ukrainian general working in the White House.
What impeachment and the various scandals of the ruling class demonstrate is just how foreign the ruling class is today. These are people so divorced from the daily reality of Americans, they may as well live on another planet. They can’t even put on good political theater now. Instead, it is a parade of their buddies from an obscure part of the imperial establishment. They would have been better served offering up spectral evidence that Trump is a witch. That would be more relatable.
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Well, the Potato Irish in America didn’t fetishize the Famine of the 1840s for a century after arriving here, like the bagel people do. The Ukrainian and Russians who starved in their millions during the Stalin years are unremembered by museums in Washington and every American city, because there is only one genocide above all others, only one worthy of endless propagandizing, to be used as a club to beat the right with. Just like in the olden days, their god is a jealous god, and will suffer no others before it- except their god isn’t God, it’s themselves. They… Read more »
Youre talking about the one that killed 6 billion jews?
Interestingly enough i put in billion and my browser suggested a correction to million….
Never forget muh’ six gorillion!
Well, the Potato Irish in America didn’t fetishize the Famine of the 1840s for a century after arriving here, like the bagel people do.
Yes. I’ve got some pretty gruesome stories in my family but I don’t brag about them or try to wheedle vicarious $ympathy out of people on those accounts.
Being a victim is a fail, not a win.
Yes, but thinking of and portraying yourself as a victim so that you can attack/rip off/undermine your oppressor guilt-free comes in handy.
Yes. As Redneck writes below, it’s Rules for Radicals. But selling tickets to grandpa’s funeral is beyond ghoulish, it’s disrespectful, and making his death a centerpiece of your identity is sick. I assume I don’t have to plug the docu “Defamation” on this board, but here it is anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE I happen to own a get-out-of-holocaust-guilt-free-card since my grandfather was conscribed for forced labour by the Nazis, even if he was never in a camp. I simply ask people who go on about how Danes were complicit in the Holocaust, how much reparations he’d have been due if he were… Read more »
Unless you are special. Then up is down, right is left, and being a victim is a win, not a fail.
Felix, you are missing Rules for Radicals no.4: make the enemy live by his own rules. “I’m a white Scots-Irish, where are my reparations for slavery of my people” is cogdis taunting (as long you don’t devolve to dr3).
Yes thank you.
My God the Israeli’s in both the pre-Israel and post Holocaust phase were contemptuous of the professional victims who arrived on their doorsteps.
Some Irish in America have recently gone into the famine victim business but leftism has always been a racket for the willing weak grifters. Heard I’m sure of Frank McCourt? Angela’s ashes? The common Irish in America and Ireland loathe McCourt.
He speaks ill of his mother. Anathema.
If it weren’t for his damned NY publisher’s / pornographer’s he’d be another washed up drunk. Shetl porn indeed.
The Indians aren’t constantly complaining about the 150 to 400 million Hindus killed by Islamic invaders. They do occasionally get in a mood and burn out a Muslim village, but don’t harangue us about it.
The Hindus were certainly a mood during the Partition days of 1947.
We might be too if we’re still a country when the southwest gets partitioned off to the invaders
I’m all in favor of the strategy:
1. Partition
2. Wait a respectful period, invade and drive the entire population south to Mexico
3. Profit.
Guess I’m not the only one who’s thought this.
Partition means wars lasting decades or centuries. As opposed to weeks/4 years. Better to skip to the end. Partition would mean the globalists will massively reinforce with foreigners and replay the Spanish Civil War – with us playing the Republicans. Hard No.
I do agree a security zone is needed in Northern Mexico. They can suffer for their sins. A lot.
And we sure don’t hear Whitey complaining about the Sack of Baltimore or the million+ Europeans sold into slavery by Islamic pirates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
If we labeled the 19th-20th century Jewish immigration wave in the same dark-humor fashion as the Potato Irish, what would we call them? They were fleeing the wrath of populations victimized by their predatory behavior, not a natural disaster.
Carpetbergers? The “Tar & Feather” Jews? The Cossacked?
While Sailer’s psychological explanation for the Jewish obsession has its merits, it’s by far not the only reason, and certainly not the most important one. 1. The Jews were happily looting and plundering Russia and Ukraine during the post-Soviet collapse, gorging themselves greedily on Russian assets, til Putin stopped it (or at least slowed it down). That is the real reason why Putin is Hitler. (Or Hitler number five, or six. There are so many Another Hitlers now I’ve lost count.) 2. There is so much Jewish skullduggery in Ukraine (after all, the Jews overthrew the Ukraine government, began a… Read more »
6. Despite all of the sentimental nonsense and malicious lies of “Fiddler on the Roof” style propaganda, the Jews in Poland, Russia, Ukraine etc were not mainly meek little tailors cowering in their shtetls in fear of the Coassack hoof-beats. For centuries in these regions, and especially in Poland, Jews were loan sharks, extortionists, government enforcers, drug dealers and slave traders. Jews eagerly and extensively sold Russians and Ukrainians as slaves to the Muslims further south for centuries. Jewish gangs operate extensive white-slavery networks out of these regions even today, trafficking girls from Eastern Europe into the brothels of Israel,… Read more »
najalt. Sorry. Excuse the interruption. Carry on.
Ben Shapiro, is that you?
Another barn burner Ant Man. You have nailed the psychopathic Jew psyche to the wall for all to see and they don’t like it one bit. Nobody explains this better than you my friend.
“meek little tailors cowering in their shtetls”
Puts me in mind of the film “The House of Rothschild”.
https://youtu.be/Ja0va3mXnzA?t=120
Today the film seems an over the top anti-Semitic parody, but the film was made by a Jewish-controlled studio. The film’s depiction of goys as bigots and fools, and the glorification of deception by the titular heroes, tells us much.
A great fault of our current culture is that when others tell us “We will destroy you!” and even tell us how, we tell ourselves, “Nah, they don’t really mean that. They’re good people. They wouldn’t do that.” What foolishness.
There is no clearer evidence of the decline of our species (and the concomitant decline of our society) than to note that Adam Schiff rose to become a highly-placed elected official with the power to wage a corrupt coup in broad daylight and no one is rising up to oppose this tyranny. People are dying in the streets of Hong Kong and in Iraq/Iran in defense of liberty. We sleep walk and buy another trinket at Walmart. We are Spartans no more.
Vermin like Schiff have been a staple in American politics since the early 1900s…but they had always operated in the shadows.
Physiognomy matters. Having a circus freak like Schiff on center stage does damage to whatever he’s peddling and to whomever he’s peddling it all with. It’s a frustratingly slow process, but mutants leading the crusade will leave a bad taste in the mouths of most normal people.
uhhh, is Schiff uglier than Abe? Asking for a friend…
The Hong Kong protests are driven by US/UK politics meeting with Hong Kong tycoons that funded the students. It’s an attempt to keep China’s territory an open sanctuary to pirates and thieves. The stupid upper middle class students doing the “protesting” are being used badly. They ought to know better. That they don’t confirms that the western cultural disease has reached Hong Kong schools. Meanwhile, since the protests went on so long, the Chinese govt had ample time to figure out who was sending money to the kid protesters and their accounts were frozen right before they had their explosive… Read more »
Say, how would you like to buy a swell bridge?
Jews will never forgive Putin for advancing Russian interests against those of local Jewish oligarchs (Berezovsky) and the machinations of foreign Jews (Sachs, Summers, etc).
Don’t forget Browder…
The first half of his book was interesting… then it got increasingly murky and paranoid and clear that he was leaving out some major details.
Exactly!
Jews are scared that Russia launched war. on them. The problem is, that Russian vision about war is that war does not end with peace treaty but with permanent destruction of the enemy. Russia fought with Mongol Empire, with Swedish Kingdom, with France when Napoleon was in charge and with Hitlers Germani. None of them are superpower anymore. No the so called Global Elite is next.
Its older than Putin. The Jews will never forgive the Ukrainians for being the homeland of the Cossacks-the Tsar’s bully boys they blame for the Tsarist repressions of Jews (radicals BTW) in the Pale. One would think the 10 million dead in the Holodomor ethnic genocide thinly disguised as Communism would be sufficient revenge – but no. This is a religion of eternal tribal blood feud. They will plague the Ukrainians forever, just as they will plague the Iraqis forever (Haman). Until its understood they’re a tribe and tribes have eternal blood feuds no matter how educated or white nothing… Read more »
One of these days Israel may even plant a massive honey trap for our politicians using Jewish billionaires, and lavish estates wired for cameras and sound. They could ensnare plenty of our elite. Maybe even with underage girls. An operation like that doesn’t come without risks, but it would be well worth it for them.
We live in a world where half the people on the internet are surfing for porn. People are more interested in “Epstein: The Movie ” than will ever be interested in “Epstein & The Mossad bait the Goyim”. This is how far we’ve fallen.
I guess they forgot to tell that ex-PM (Barak?)
I was attending a convention last week and the during the breakfast buffet at the hotel, ABC was blaring coverage of the impeachment carnival. For two mornings I was half watching the shenanigans and half observing the diners’ reactions to the TV. Most were ignoring it but reading faces… my feeling was those that seemed somewhat interested were displeased by it, particularly when the bug-eyed Schiff appeared on screen. I half followed it myself but the portions I did catch involved Vindman, Sondland, Schiff and Goldberg all kvetching… and left me with the distinct impression that the Pharisees were talking… Read more »
They really should get a country of their own where they dont have to put up with us.
The Jews or the goys?
We live in a dead society. Completely dead. Why wouldn’t a dead society let foreigners, including Israelis run our foreign policy? Why wouldn’t a dead society open the gates and let the foreign hordes flood in? Why wouldn’t a dead society let grifters of all kind line their pockets with tax dollars? Why wouldn’t a dead society let its debt explode into something ridiculous? Living societies believe in a future, or at least stop navel gazing long enough to realize that the future is in jeopardy. A Corpse can’t defend itself, and doesn’t care if they’re stolen from.
feel free to leave and go somewhere else.
“Love it or leave it.” Really? You seem to have this place confused with Breitbart.
Bad case of the Boomer Mondays.
It’s worth delving back into ancient history and watching a few minutes of Sam Ervin and Howard Baker in the Watergate hearings. The post-Vietnam 70s were a low-point of American history but at least the ruling class had elements of decorum and native intelligence. American politicians have always had a corner on the clown market, but back in the day we could say they were OUR clowns. So to Z-man’s point, today’s politicians are manifestly not my people, nor is that fatty stuffed in an Army uniform a fellow warrior. Today’s political class and their red/blue followers merely demonstrate that… Read more »
That’s actually the hardest point to get past…that it’s not my country anymore.
Something like an impeachment has a lot of moving parts, but these are some likely contributors. 1. Ginsberg is dead or close to it, and the dems will argue that Trump can’t appoint a new justice while under impeachment. 2. The Ukraine has acted as a cookie jar for corrupt politicians in both the US and Europe, and no one wants to get their hand slapped away. 3. They don’t want to hang. Vis a vis the Ukraine itself, controlling it vastly limits the ability of Russia to project power or export petroleum. It also serves as an anchor to… Read more »
Ukraine is a hopelessly corrupt backwater with zero importance to America. Again, the paranoia over Russia has not basis in facts, but it has a strong basis in mythology. Russia has the GDP of California. It has no ability to project power, beyond minor skirmishes on its border.
” with zero importance to America” To main street America, yes. To the US military it is a critical strategic space on the so-called “grand chessboard”. It’s sole importance is a base from which to attack Russia. That’s also why Russia took back the Crimea, essentially a giant unsinkable aircraft carrier in the middle of the Black Sea.. This is all about waging war against Russia. Always was. Why? Because empire, that’s why. The US military will protect its sole power – head capo – status to the ends of the earth, just like Britain did. And it was to… Read more »
“That’s also why Russia took back the Crimea, essentially a giant unsinkable aircraft carrier in the middle of the Black Sea”
That, and it’s one of the few Russian warm water ports.
If you want to piss off Russians, turn them back into a land and ice locked country.
Poor old Germany being forced to declare war on all those countries.Tried to force Britian into war twice after the Franco-Prussian war but the British refused.
The British obviously perfected some sort of mind-control ray.
Maybe they still have it and that’s why the Germans are still trying to dominate Europe and “fundamentally transform” it via the EU.
Russia will be in the sights of Deep State for a long time to come for two reasons. 1. It’s a big, powerful white country that shows an alternative to Globohomo. TPTB can’t have that anymore than than they can have American whites starting to think as and organize as a people. 2. Cossacks. So long as an independent and even mildly Christian Russia exists, Jews will never be safe. Don’t forgot, Ukraine is Cossack country. This has nothing to do with the size of Russia’s GDP or its ability to project power. This is about Russia’s existence. So long… Read more »
Russia should be a natural friend and counter-weight to Chinese power. Commies and bought politicians and media drones everywhere have been paid to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Yep. Russia and the United States should be friends and allies. Russia has China as a neighbor. You can bet that makes them a bit nervous. That said, if we were just minding our own business, we really wouldn’t have any natural enemies. China’s not going to cross an ocean and invade. It simply wants what we have in the Western Hemisphere: To be the regional top dog making sure that things work in our favor. Russia wants the same for it’s area. Yeah, that kind of sucks for Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, but, hey, they’re not my people… Read more »
The globalist enterprise cannot succeed if both Russia and China retain independence of action. China has become too economically and politically powerful to be subdued; so Russia remains in the globalist gun sights. Putin is public enemy number one because of the great skill he has demonstrated in preventing domination of the Russian state by international financiers. Putin learned well the lessons of the Yeltsin years when the natural wealth of his country was looted with ease by foreign interests.
The United States spurned the many attempts of Russia to join the West. Neocons, the enemies of white Christians.
god damn you are stupid. yeah, Russia just wants to be our buddies. jesus take me now.
Karl, that hostile take you stupidly spout is the Jewish take that the goyim are disappointingly gullible in believing and making their own. And no need to curse me in God’s name. Fucker.
That our enemies hate Russia and seek to destroy it does not make it a friend.
Russia and the US can have mutual interests and cooperation, but they emphatically are NOT us. We have more in common with Germans, Nordics, and even Gawd he’p us the French, than with Russians.
I’m a half-Russian* Russophile and I will still agree to a point. Russia the country has some distinctly Eastern cultural elements, a lot of Turkic-Mongol admixture from the Horde centuries, etc… The genetic and cultural descendants of the Kievan Rus are the Russians closest to us, the conquering Nord Rus having lorded over a Slavic majority populace before becoming part of the Duchy of Lithuania. Russia’s not “European” on the whole, that’s clear. No illusions on my part there. But they are probably the most compatible non-Euro major power if you consider only the Slavic elements. The further east and… Read more »
The Cossacks have a negative reputation or connotation. Would it then surprise anyone to find out the Cossacks were Christians who prided themselves as being “Free Men”? There was a huge number of Jews living in and ruling Poland for many years. At some point, perhaps when the Ottomans, those blessed muslims who provide a broad avenue for jews to invade by (look what they accomplished together as the one-two punch in Spain and Poland, among other regions), were inhabiting the Cossacks’ land, that which we know as Ukraine — Russia’s borderland after moving their capitol from Kiev to St.… Read more »
Russia serves as a semi-convenient bad guy while Trump is in office. When he’s gone Russia will disappear from the headlines like it was never even there.
The fact is liberals don’t really give a shit about Russia’s “whiteness” or Orthodox Church — neither of which has prevented it from being a complete dump — conservatives are the ones who care about Russia as some sort of traditionalist fantasy land.
Also, Russia has long been involved in globalization, but not as much as they would like.
It was the perfect place to find an excuse to send $billions of American dollars and expect a large percentage of it to come back to our elite through dirty deals. It was the pinnacle of the monetized foreign policy.
And Ukraine replaced it.
“””… Russia has the GDP of California. It has no ability to project power….”””
Well, I honestly disagree. Most people don`t know how effectively Russia uses money for certain issues. And those issues are free of corruption or stupidity.
Russian army gets for one dollar more than Western army for 1000 dollars. Anybody know, why in the West everybody talking about defense expenditure and nobody never ask where this money goes or what we really get for this money ?
Yes – The Russian military is formidable. But they can’t just decide to drop in on Venezuela or Chad and regime-change their asses. Only the U.S. can project power like that right now although China is probably close.
Are you sure after Crimea and Syria ? Btw, Russia dropped into Venezuela and avoided regime change. War is not auction, and it is impossible to estimate country strength by GDP. 4th Gen war is actually relatively cheap.
Yes. Crimea literally on their previous border. Syria was a small deployment into (part of) a friendly country.
Crimea has been part of Russia since Catherine the Great. Give me a break. Maybe Russia should ask for Alaska back and feel entitled to it, by neocon thinking.
4th Gen war is a marketing scheme.
You can find 4th Gen War in the Old Testament in the conquest of Cannan, or Sun Tzu, or the Peninsular War on both sides. In essence Napoleon practiced 4th Generation War through the newspapers.
The U.S. has been dumping money into money grifting schemes with military contractors for decades now, leading to very fancy multi-million dollar jets that fail to operate properly when it rains, etc. Add to that the wahmen, gays and trannies now in the military force, admittance standards lowered to allow their entry, as well as the white-hating browns and blacks that gain U.S. citizenship by joining the military, well there you have our current military readiness. I deal with college graduates and “professionals” and “experts” who are unable to think logically even to serve their own best interest. It’s downright… Read more »
Ursula- you are generally spot on, but I have to disagree based on experience, with the following. “…as well as the white-hating browns and blacks that gain U.S. citizenship by joining the military…” My experience with “the browns” was quite the opposite. Whites and Hispanics (in the army at least) are quite cohesive. Granted, it is a controlled environment with strict disciplinary regimen and, for combat units, a shared sense comradery due to stress and in the case of war… danger. Even accounting for the artificial society (and it a strange microcosmic society) Hispanic and white soldiers got on quite… Read more »
Penitent Man: For a more recent take, my son served with some Tejanos and a few other Latinos (Cavalry Scout) and they were generally professional and capable. However, I have read numerous reports about numerous Latino soldiers who -capable or not – join the military (combat arms, specifically) to gain experience for their gangs. This is a big problem now, but will be worse if/when it all breaks down. The street gangs and narco gangs want Sicarios trained by the US military. In any event, I do not like the idea of military service in exchange for citizenship anyhow –… Read more »
3g4me, I’ll be the first to admit that my first hand experience is stale, measured in decades behind me now. I’ve also seen articles alluding to gangs supposedly having their members enlist. I’ve seen a couple smuggling cases make the news but nothing concrete here in the U.S. indicating (purposely enlisted) military trained gang members being a problem. Not saying it isn’t, it just may not have come to my attention. I have read where the US trained Mexican counter cartel agents who once trained defected and formed the backbone of the Zetas in Mexico. Did your son experience this… Read more »
Can confirm your observations as to the civilian population in white-collar SoCal as well. We have lots of castizo lawers, businessmen, doctors, etc… who are comfortable with a racial caste worldview and don’t get into the La Raza stuff. They see themselves as heirs to a European tradition, as Spaniards, not Aztecs/Maya. Whites can work together with a big plurality of Asians and Latinos to help move peaceful separation and apartheid along. Latin America already provides the model for racial caste separation. If we stopped trying to turn polyglot Brazilians into Toynbee’s New England town-hallers and let authoritarianism reign, we’d… Read more »
Russia is a homeless drunk with hep-c
Do you realize how pathetic that sounds when America and her people are collapsing into politically correct dead-end depravity as we speak? Russia is the most literate country on earth and their people with their brains and skills run circles around typical fat, ugly, unhealthy Americans. American literacy is on par with Guatemala and Central African Republic, but that was several years ago and we’re undoubtedly lower than that now, given we allow 1-3 million brown and black low-IQ, low-skill creatures in to the U.S. every year. And if they set foot in, they’re in the U.S. for good. If… Read more »
What planet are you on?
Russia is the least functional “White” country by far. It is crippled by extreme alcoholism, rampant corruption and a lack of empathy for their fellow countryman that could rival Somalia. The dissident right’s fascination with Russia is a symptom of a defeated people.
70 years of Jewish revolutionary communism followed by 20 years of Westen “economic assistance” will do that to you.
Karl’s getting called out for Boomer Posting. I don’t think you’re coming from that angle.
Speaking for myself, I don’t see Russia as a utopia. I see it as a crime victim who deserves honest sympathy and support while trying to put its life back together.
Russia was a hellhole before long before communism. After all, Europeans were remarking on its backwardness and callous brutality since before America was founded.
I am coming from the angle of being tired of the right grasping at lost causes for inspiration.
About drinking
Russian alcohol consumption down 40% since 2003 – WHO
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/01/russian-alcohol-consumption-down-40-since-2003-who
I don’t know about all that but “homeless drunk” is a fairly accurate description.
Well, equal California plus Texas, or equal to Germany. We’re talking 5th overall for Russia. And Russia has a more diversified industrial sector than we do. It has a manned space program. We don’t. We send our spy satellites over Russia using Russian rockets. Russia has little debt and no foreign debt. It runs a foreign trade surplus even without oil and gas. Their cities aren’t dominated by armed Negro and Mexican gangs. Moscow isn’t filled with homeless people, or streets littered with feces and needles. Nor are they bogged down in pointless, unwinnable wars. Face it. Russia and China… Read more »
Russia manufactures more of their own critical goods than the U.S. does. China manufactures the U.S. goods. And the U.S. thinks it’s going to go to war with China? And Russia? The sanctions gave Russia cause to be even more self-sufficient. Again, Russia is on the ascent, U.S. on the descent.
Ukraine is Russia without oil.
You’re ignoring guilt, and fear.
The entire Clinton/Rubin/Soros alumni cast was washing the rape of russia money – esp for example Victoria Nuland. The next cookie jar was the Ukraine.
They’re scared shitless. These people don’t do jail. Little people do jail.
They’re scared shitless that Ukraine is the lamppost Trump will hang them from. With good reason.
This is like the Clinton years joke- The White House sure looked guilty.
The difference is they’re in Congress and the beltway – not inside the White House.
1. Ginsberg is dead or close to it, and the dems will argue that Trump can’t appoint a new justice while under impeachment.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t in the Constitution (not that that matters much after half a century of penumbra spotting). Is there a law or judicial precedent for it?
Gravity Denier: To ask the question is to answer it. The law or precedent is whatever the State says it is, as interpreted by the SJW mob of the day. Even if there existed a specific, precisely worded section in the Constitution specifying such, do you truly think it would matter? Whites have got to drop this reliance on “the law” as well as “muh constitution.” Anything written merely reflects the cultural values of those who wrote it. Change the age and the people and what’s on paper is irrelevant. Just ask all the (((lawyers))) and (((constitutional scholars))).
“as interpreted”
Exactly. This is rule by hermeneutics.
It’s the Talmudization of American law. For millennia a subset of them have been saying to the rest, “Of course the Torah takes precedence, but only close study of the Talmud allows one to understand it. Fortunately, I am a Talmudic scholar and will teach you the correct interepretation; you should and must not trouble yourself with matters too complicated for you.”
In the same vein, “Of course the Constitution is the fundamental document. But you are not qualified to understand it. Fortunately, I am a Constitutional scholar, and …”
Dump a bunch of the (((chosen))) into any given country and after 5-10 decades, the countrymen will all be at each other’s throats, the country at the precipice of utter disaster. If the country expels the alien people, they have a chance of recollecting themselves (see Poland and Russia; the disease then moved on to western Europe, particularly the U.S. and U.K. who are currently in the death throes of their once highly desirable Christian European cultures). If not, the country and people disappear. It’s the way of the world. The bible tells all about it. The people of Satan,… Read more »
“Is there a law or judicial precedent for it?”
No.
I’m sure they’ll raise hell about how Trump is bad and his nominee is tainted and shouldn’t be confirmed. I’m as cynical as anybody about the courts and the whole political/legal system but as of now, arguing that an impeached Trump is prohibited from nominating a SC justice will go nowhere.
“Law or precedent’ is Jew talk. What matters is the rules gentlemen play by. Just because the Pres. CAN do something doesn’t mean they’ll let him get away with it if it’s unseemly. The Const. interpreted by traditional White men is entirely different to the Jew’s letter of the law. Why do you think Scalia loved the Talmud?
The pickins were good for American elites including the tiny hat crowd. The Ukraine has been decimated and the poor people get it in the rear one more freaking time. The people that rule that country make our so called leaders look like statesmen.
It seems the incestuous nature of Washington made sure all their buddies got a piece of the action.
Now with their hand still partially in the cookie jar they scream impeachment and treason on Trump and his people.
As the expression goes, are we to be spared nothing? Oh harsh justice where is thy sting?
The borderlands of Russia, Ukraine, has been turned into a rump state that the putsch schemers plan to be cultivated by Big Ag only, driving off all the little farmers. Corporate rule only. They aim to do the same to us in the U.S., with the majority of residents (not citizens) living in humongous, polluted, crime-ridden cities and with no control over our food, water, heating, air conditioning, jobs, etc. Sound like a Mad Max or James Bond film? Yes, there are actually people planning to do these things to us. And it seems that among them are people who… Read more »
“Oh harsh justice where is thy sting” ask Elijah
The Ukraine impeachment show looked like a Chinese restaurant on Christmas day.
Thanks.
I’ve been avoiding the impeachment stuff, but when I took my boomer father to the hospital, naturally when he was in recovery he went for his rage porn fix and it’s not like I could leave him alone in the hospital room. And I just stared at the Schiff character the whole time. He has the look of someone who has been waiting to get revenge on the world since the age of six. At times I thought he was perched on a high-chair, other times, with his fixed manic stare he looks like a ventriloquial dummy (imagine some robin-egg… Read more »
This small unimportant country on the fringe of Europe
It may be small in terms of wealth, but geographically, it is a big country, about the size of Germany and France combined.
It is also important agriculturally. It was known as the breadbasket of the USSR.
The breadbasket deal is a biggie.
I hear Yiddistan is buying up large tracts of farmland.
Back in the early days of Barry the Kenyan, that Dick, Cheyney was on the board of the US-Ukraine Chamber of Commerce. Big fish for that size pond I thought, there more here than meets the eye.
It all feeds into the sick U.N. Agenda 21 and other agendas where corporations control all the food and water supplies on earth, as well as all means of production, all ways to wealth, all money movements, etc. To read the U.N. Agenda material, it sounds like laudable aims, but the implementation is verifiably hellish. Just remember that business consortiums are behind all the U.N. agendas and the U.S. is the 800 lb. gorilla championing and imposing their sick ideas. It’s Libertarianism, i.e., corporatism. People are crazy to want corporate rule without a government. I guess they think somehow corporate… Read more »
I was reading an article about how various entities in Ukraine were donating to various PACS and entities in the US, with the money coming back into the DEM party as slush funds; various relatives of the DEM pols were also on the receiving end. Looks like the Ukranians kept records of all this too, which they are handing over to Trump (now) with great relish. It honest to god looks like this was all a baited trap to get the Dems talking about Ukraine in public.
The trouble is the party installed Barr as AG, who will cover all of this up. Just wait until the white wash of an IG report comes out. It will make the Epstein affair seem plausible.
What about the speech Barr gave that seemed to indicate he was on to their game?
That’s his role in the game. He makes noise for the plan trusters, so they don’t get suspicious. No one will be charged with anything in all of this.
Indications are they will sell some low level FBI lawyer as the only wrong doer in the whole widespread three year coup attempt. Yep, he acted alone and communicated with no one higher up. There’s your ounce of flesh, now let’s get back to investigating Trump.
Given the state of clown world, I expect he will get probation, followed by a book tour and a six figure gig on a cable show. So far, all of the people fired have landed in a pile of cash.
The business of Washington is corruption and business is very good.
I get the feeling that this Ukraine-impeachment show is something of an audition for those book contracts and cable deals, pursued by diplomats and staffers who are tired of the grind, and want an easy and early retirement. It’s arguably a rational career strategy. Someone like Yovanavich would still be a nobody coming off a 30-year career in the State Dept. But do 20 years and then leave in a well-publicized “principled stand” against the villain of the moment, and you get a star turn at a Congressional hearing watched by all the right people (the only audience that matters).… Read more »
she’ll be a teaching a course as a “Diplomat in Residence” at Georgetown, an institution distinguished by its excellence in mediocrity.
She is in fact at Georgetown, maintaining the same $600,000 salary she got in foreign service. No dent in her lifestyle.
Expect a book by Marie Yovanovitch, which she will have probably received a huge up-front 7-figure bonus. (Remember when Obama got a $60 million payment for his book after serving the elite in his 8 years? What kind of publishing houses have that kind of money to pay out really?) Similar to a book just out: “‘Crime In Progress,’ Fusion GPS Chiefs Tell The Inside Story Of The Steele Dossier.” They establish history and how you should think about the whole affair by laying out their version of events and details. They too probably got a 7- or 8-figure bonus… Read more »
Most of what is going on are things which must not be spoken of. Ukraine is ground zero of a Uniparty skim for the politicians of all stripes, executed through all the foreign aid programs (ever wonder why we are giving billions upon billions per year to governments who hate us or could care less about us, and why all of this is so uncontroversial in DC?). Also, every pol gets a piece of the action, so everyone has a motivation to lay low and shut up (a version of the Epstein thing, but using money instead of sex). Trump… Read more »
What Barr does or doesn’t do will be the inflection point I’m most interested in going forward. If he whitewashes all the deep state crimes, what really happens other than kicking and screaming from dissidents? I, for one, do not underestimate the power of these establishment criminals. Trump is David going against Goliath. I’m reluctantly betting on Goliath winning the proximate battle, not necessarily the war.
If Goliath loses the longer war, it will be because a big chunk of our country goes permanently Hong Kong on all of this, for years and years. Trump will have almost nothing to do with it in the long run, other than perhaps as some sort of totem. Remember that most of the pols on all sides are now well into their seventies. They will all be mumbling paste-eaters before very long.
I get the impression from some of the responses here (yours being one of them) – that people don’t understand how “power” works. There is more than one facet to it. And one of those facets is enshrined in the Constitution of this country FOR A REASON. One of the facets of power – which is constantly commented on here – is the ability to impose fear on people. Well that goes both ways. Yes – what Barr does – or does not do – is a good inflection point to pay attention to. And it’s probably very likely that… Read more »
Not this time. Trump has to shoot the moon and clean out all of the vipers, otherwise they come after him and his family forever after. We’ll see how it goes but I see some serious jail time for a bunch of big names. If Trump has the cards, he’ll play them…
LOL. Sorry. Trump has surrounded himself by the very people that opposed him. What should we make of that?
that you are delusional
Why don’t we debate? Let the platform be Candidate Trump vs. President Trump. Here’s my start: Mandating E-Verify (campaign promise.) Ending DACA on day one (campaign promise.) Building a wall (campaign promise.)
His entire family line will be eradicated (except Javanka, ofc) if he fails to destroy the swamp… these people aren’t a joke.
Pre-Trump, the U.S. has given billions of U.S. tax payers dollars to Ukraine and it’s all disappeared. I read that after the approx $5 billion we spent leading up to the Maidan coup, we then gave 1 billion to Ukraine in 2014, 2015, 2016, for $3 billion total and none of it is accounted for. This is what is being covered up as it’s said U.S. and Ukrainian figures involved in the coup took it all for themselves. It’s just the business consortium-driven U.N. implementers looting; they are looting wherever they can on planet earth before the One World Government… Read more »
Is there an impeachment hearing going on?
The recent Zionist obsession with Russia relates to Putin’s treatment of the oligarchs. This is probably not news to readers of this site, but just for completeness. When Russia privatized under yeltsin after the separation of the Soviet Union, the utility and various other companies which had been run by the state were sold at auction to certain persons in proceedings that are well known to have been rigged. There are many oligarchs, but the top 9 were Jewish or half jewishAmy Chua has a good section on this in her book World on Fire. Basically it’s as if AT&T… Read more »
Putin is the only Jew-friendly head of Russian state in the last 150 years (since Alexander II). He is friends with chief Hasidic Rabbi of Russia and turns to him for advice.
The only Jewish oligarchs he turned against were those who thought they would dominate him, as they helped to bring him into Kremlin.
The reason Dem American Jews are against Russia is because they follow Dem party line.
Historically all pogroms took place in Ukraine and Moldova, as Jews were forbidden to live in most of Russia before 1917 revolution.
I’m not saying Putin is an anti Semite. Some of the Jewish oligarchs are on good terms with him. Why then is the Democratic Party line and neoconservative branch of the Republican Party so hostile to Putin’s Russia? Why did they like yeltsin so much?
That’s what I’m saying, centrist Democrat, neoconservative are virtually synonymous with something. Also, Putin supports Assad in Syria and Iran to some degree, which puts him on the wrong side of the Zionist establishment. The zionists seek to cut the Shia corridor to Lebanon. It’s sort of a complex of interconnected things.
Dems loved Russia and colluded with (some) Russian oligarchs against candidate Trump. Before that Obama had quid pro quo with Medvedev (tell Vladimir I’ll be more flexible after election).
Now that Dems projected their Russian crimes into Trump, Russia overnight became an enemy.
All this has little to do with supposed Jewish connection with the old country.
And if you pull the other one it’s got bells on! Its not party. The R’s have just as much stake in the corruption of Ukraine as the D’s.
The reason the Dem American party line is against Russia (along with the GOP party line) is because Jews draw the American party lines.
Friendly to the Jewish religion- sure.
Friendly to the Jewish people- no there’s been many.
why certain elements of the ruling class think this is a productive use of their time My common sense grug-brain says: 1. Keep throwing shit at Trump and hope people buy one of their fabrications, or that they turn up a lucky piece of real evidence 2. Constant shit-throwing will make Trump look bad, especially as portrayed by the “media”–actually, of course, strident left-wing propagandists 3. Run the clock. Tie Trump up so he can’t get anything done, which will allow that many more immigrants to come in, and that many more institutions to be infiltrated 4. Accuse Trump in… Read more »
#1 – I also think part of this is to keep the pressure on him and hope he screws himself somehow.
#2, 3, 4 for sure, but that’s just how they roll. Smearing, gaming the rules, home-cooking from the refs, crying out as you strike, projection, deflection. It’s maddeningly effective and time-tested.
Exactly. Borderline Personality Disorder. Classic DARVO behavior.
Welcome back my friends, to the Shoah that never ends… Soon the Deep State queens In a glaze of vaseline Will perform on guillotine Their auditions for Epstein Eloping with a mule Is the epitome of cool And submission to our rule is all you’ll learn in school. We prefer it stay unknown That the atrocities you’re shown Are exclusively homegrown All our own. All our own A wholesome family-friendly day at the Colloseum would be better for the kids than this cabaret of catabolic corruption. Only state-approved kids programming like Disney or Nickelodeon could be worse for them nowadays.… Read more »
“funnier foreign physiognomy”
Not anything deep here, just venting.
Vindman’s feminine look and cherubic build in an army uniform made me want to retch… then again not an American and not a real soldier. Schiff just plain creeps me out, I think he has the same disorder Quayle has with the inability to blink regularly… it made poor Dan look dumb (he wasn’t) but it makes Schiff look positively psychotic, and I think Trump shouldn’t have focused on his pencil neck but rather his pouty girl mouth. Meaty-faced Sondman is straight from central casting for the slimy mattress salesman.
“Vindman’s feminine look and cherubic build in an army uniform made me want to retch”
Easy there, hoss. That’s undoubtedly perpetuation of an anti-Semitic stereotype. I refer you to what Forward had to say about the Pajama Boy meme.
https://forward.com/opinion/190011/obamacare-pajama-boy-controversy-wrapped-in-anti-s/
And FWIW, when I first saw the Pajama Boy image I thought to myself, “Geez, another hipster douchebag.” Jewishness or not didn’t even occur to me. But I’m betting right now that someone will write an impassioned column (crying out in pain as he lashes out) on how criticism of Vindman’s shameful physical condition is anti-Semitic.
“Sanpaku eyes.” https://redice.tv/news/sanpaku-eyes-the-ill-uminati-eye “When a baby is born, the iris, or colored part of the eye, is usually beautifully balanced between the upper and lower eye lids. It touches the upper and lower lids, so that no white, or sclera, shows above or below. The sclera is visible only to the left and right of the iris. This indicates a balanced and healthy nervous system. The baby is alert and in generally sound health. When a person dies, the iris rises so that it partially disappears under the upper eyelid. The white sclera shows below. In Oriental Medicine, we call… Read more »
In my dark moments — which come with ever-increasing frequency these days — I think that the Dems are doing it simply to be seen doing something, anything. They’ve backed themselves into a corner. The culture wars are over, and they won — a victory so resounding, it makes the Red Army in Berlin look like a Boy Scout jamboree. They can’t “fight” on the “economy,” since the only part of “the economy” the average voter (thinks he) understands is going gangbusters. They’ve got nothing on foreign policy, since they’re somehow trying to criticize Orange Man for doing the very… Read more »
That, and everything they are “doing” is cover for the skim. Keep all those plates spinning on sticks, so the audience watches the spinning plates instead of the pillaging going on in plain sight just below.
Some blogger or another offered that the strongest force in human affairs is inertia.
Yeah, but that guy’s a jerk though. 😉
Z, I want to outline here what I see the Dems doing all over the world. They create and fund institutions using both foreign and domestic policy, and then ‘recurve’ them so their creations fund the DNC proper, its Principals, or its patrons. In essence, they create a donor class, foreign or domestic, out of whole cloth, using the Citizens’ public fisc to fertilize it. The suspicious energy company in the Ukraine is just one of these creations. But you could point to the US’s student loan system in which the Democrats intend to finance its activists’ decades-long activism through… Read more »
Even better if you can make your scam of an organization “tax deductible”. Then you can give tax deductible “donations” to it and spend the money on yourself and on your cronies. Lots of options: pay it out in salaries, give grants to each others’ organizations, use each others’ businesses as vendors, or spend it on “charitable events”. Either way, you can defer, shift, or even eliminate taxable income.
Just needs to be plausible enough that it’s a “charity” in the eyes of the IRS.
A little bit of history, before WW1, the Western Ukraine, Gallicia and Bukovinia, were part of the old Austrian-Hungarian Empire and, in a sense, part of Europe. The cultural connections in that part of the Ukraine looked West via the Catholic Church. In the rest of the Ukraine, the connections were to Russia via the Orthodox Church. The Ukraine is culturally torn between East and West, a source of trouble for anyone who gets involved with that sad tortured country. America would be wise to let the Russians have the trouble of taking care of their “little brothers”. Disclosure: my… Read more »
This ties in with the German Jew versus Russian Jew conflict. German Jews don’t share the obsession with the old country, as they have assimilated pretty much like other European groups. Paul Gottfried has talked about this quite a bit in the past. It’s one of those things that once it is pointed out, it is really hard not to notice.
Disagree with you and Gottfried. The German Jews aren’t as obsessed with cossacks, and tend to have been in America longer and have more old money, but their behavior and politics and sympathies are remarkably similar, minus their cousins’ crassness. Famous statue poetess was a wealthy Sephardic Jew and still an ardent Zionist. Founder of the stock exchange was German Jew. Many of the Jews who married into the British upper class and lower aristocracy were German Jews, and they still pull the same strings and exhibit the same politics as the Russian Jews in America. Same old, same old.
But German Jews gave us BBQ, so they get a free pass.
I would like to think there is honor somewhere left in our system. I don’t expect much from Horowitz but Barr and Durham?
If they just convict some low level nobodies and leave it at that then it truly is over with for our system of government.
I hope the z is wrong on this one.
We shall see.
Right you are Gordon. Crimes unpunished are repeated. Makes one wonder. How many similar crimes committed in the past went unpunished?
We’re nearly 50 yrs on from the low-level nobody G Gordon Liddy playing the scapegoat … and since the time of JFK we havent needed any more lessons-learned regarding our “system of government.” The system is designed to destroy little people and protect the elite. Justice and honor are things we learn in civics class, but it counts for little in the federal judicial system or deep state.
Barr’s converso father hired Jeff Epstein without credentials to one of the more posh private teaching gigs in the country when Jeff was practically still in diapers. A more egregious right-wing version of how Obama was admited to Occidental out of left field. The Barr family’s connections to all the wrong people run deep. Don’t get your hopes up too much.
What do you do when no one is looking or when you know you won’t get caught?
What happens next depends on Barr’s character, his integrity. It’s a matter of virtue ethics. It would be much easier to protect his friends and sweep all this under the rug than to do the right thing and face the ensuing media firestorm by prosecuting all the nefarious characters in the Obama gang.
We have 2 pudgy Ukrainian Jews on the National Security Council. Vindman and his TWIN brother.
Who raised them?
In a word , I think it’s distraction. the more horrific the truth is , the louder our rulers have to scream about the distractions that keep us from noticing it. case in point : https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/crime/2019/11/24/el-menchos-mexican-drug-cartel-cjng-empire-devastating-small-towns/4181733002/ 300,000 Americans killed by foreign drugs mostly brought across the Mexican border since 2013. that doesn’t even count the suicides by people tired of fighting a drug problem that is ruining their lives, which has to be 100000 to 150000 more . In the last 5 years we have had more deaths from open borders than all combined American wwII military deaths. US deaths… Read more »
Commentators like Tucker Carlson make the same point. That this is nothing but a distraction to keep people from focusing on the real problems.facing the U.S.
Such as what you are pointing out – namely China pumping Fentanyl and other designer opioids into the U.S. by the metric ton via the cartels and even direct mailing. Or the fact that companies like Ebay, Amazon and Wal-Mart help launder drug money profits back to China.
But no one wants to touch this including Mr. MAGA-GAGA
Given the level of corruption there, even a poor country like Ukraine can be milked for billions, and the milking has been in full swing since the collapse of the Soviet Union. At this point, the country exists for little more than to line the pockets of, often Jewish, plutocrats. The scandal from the US side is that these State Department apparatchiks have made it their mission to support this bust out. Some details: The puppet master of the current president of Ukraine, the young Jewish comedian Zelinsky who is now Trump’s best pal, is the Jewish plutocrat Igor Kolomoisky.… Read more »
Corruption is the main reason Ukraine is poor.
I wrote a similar comment last week, ableit a little less focused on the Jew angle. The happenings in Ukraine can best be seen as ongoing battle between oligarchs for control of the government, which in turn controls access to Ukraine’s resources. The US State Department messed up by intervening (acting in conjuction with Soros) in Ukraine’s domestic politics in a way that was intended to help Poroshenko, who lost the election. This is the primary reason Trump recalled the Ambassador.
Vindman is a Ukrainian Jew. The recalled ambassador is almost certainly one as well. (“parents fled the USSR and Nazi Germany during the war, her nickname is Masha”). The lawyers at the NSC that Vindman reported the phone call two were his twin brother and a guy named Eisenberg. Victoria Nuland, the State Department official who ran the 2014 coup in Ukraine for Obama is a Ukrainian Jew. I could go on. There are plenty of Shabbos Goy actors as well, but the part of the permanent government/deep state/etc., that controls US policy in Ukraine is dominated by the Ukrainian… Read more »
“One of the puzzles to the impeachment stuff is why certain elements of the ruling class think this is a productive use of their time.”
I think that it is like with other “conservative” presidents. Like with Nixon or Reagan, the objective is to keep them from pushing their agenda as much as possible.
Imagine, if you will, where we would be now if the evil left and all its minions had left Trump alone to “make America great again”. And think about who all would be on trial or in jail for crimes.
It’s not the left. It’s the Uniparty as a whole. The elite want what works for them, not everyone.
Once you see it, it cannot be unseen. Which is why the powers that be and their minion media work so hard to keep the red-blue thing going. That, and triggering for clicks on the media end of it.
As Coulter has pointed out to Trump’s chagrin, there is a vast amount of MAGA that he could have accomplished by now simply by using the powers of his own office and telling the objecting Left and Cuck Right to pound sand. What is stopping the wholly Executive Branch Justice Department from agressively investigating and prosecuting Swampers? The Left’s objective with Republican presidents is to virtue-signal against the things the GOP base wants but donors don’t and to provide the Swamp Right with excuses for why that dang fence just can’t be built, tens of thousands of troops need to… Read more »
How many votes did Man-hands get again, I forget? Oh, that’s right, 0.
“The pudgy Ukrainian colonel looks like a flunky from a Bond movie. Most Americans wonder why we have a Ukrainian general working in the White House.”
Actually, he rather reminded me of Goldfinger himself at the end of the movie, wearing his American general’s uniform and revealing his true loyalties by mowing down the US soldiers.
More like Flounder, in Animal House. Or Pyle, in Full Metal Jacket
In a real simple sense, Ukraine is sort of like the IPO fever that struck investors in the late 1990’s. Everybody wanted to be the guy who invested $1,000 in Walmart in 1981 and retired a billionaire or whatever. Every IPO was treated like a sure-win lottery ticket. Which it was…for the people launching the IPOs! Not for the sucker investors who didn’t realize that by the time they heard about the IPO, all the money had already been made. Eventually, the whole IPO construct blew up as more and more people rushed into them to earn smaller and smaller… Read more »
Saul Alinsky tactic – always accuse your opponents of what you are doing while you are doing it.
Vindman’s twin brother is also on the NSC.
So somehow my spouse ended up with an invite to Biden’s fundraiser out on the island on the 29th–hosted by someone who once bought an ambassadorship. Thinking it would be a hoot to RSVP with the question of whether or not it would be appropriate to bring a baby gift for the new proud grandparents….
“The Jewish obsession with that part of the world is a fascinating bit of history that never gets much attention. Third and fourth generation Irish Americans have no interest in Ireland. The same is true of Italians, Poles and even Mexicans. These groups have folded into the white American ethnic group.” You think La Raza (since renamed) was composed merely of first and second generation Mexican-Americans? Or that financing the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t come from the US? American Jews are interested in Israel to that degree, or more. In Ukraine… not so much. You’re entitled to your own… Read more »
Does this quibble say anything about the broader argument Z’s making with the post? Can you tell me what the point of his argument is? This is why I’m making most of my own site invitation only. There is a big portion of the commentariat who treat discussions as an occasion to score points with The Professor in Their Head by picking nits while failing to address or contribute to the main points of discussion. I want constructive commenters and a general admission site has too much of this kind of thing for my sanity when I’m going to have… Read more »
Sure, I could tell you what his points were. He says a lot of things I agree with then veers off into nonsense for the second half of his essay. To call it a “quibble” to note that the basis of that second half is a falsehood is ridiculous. Sorry, Jews are NOT obsessed with the Pale of Settlement, still less the Ukraine. As to the former, there’s Fiddler on the Roof and…. nothing much. As to the latter… I’m reasonably confident that most Jews don’t even know that Fiddler on the Roof is set in what is now the… Read more »
It’s like watching the special ed kids argue about the rules for dodgeball. Outside of Washington I doubt if many of these people could get much past shift manager at the local fast food place.
Look, the beginning and the end of the story – from where I sit – and see scum, middling IQ scum – like Sean Maloney in government – is this. The slip and fall shysters realized they could loot the society more effectively in government, than say, hoisting billboards and waiting for clients to limp in. Shyster thinking, ‘reasoning’ – all on display in this shampeachment. The most disgusting, lying people – their minds all work alike. Find the right “words” and win. All the same bleating, hyperbole. It really is too bad Mark Twain no longer walks the earth.… Read more »
2013 quote from Putin:
“I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13, 2013 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center. Putin was referencing the library of Rabbi Joseph I. Schneerson.
Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party
NAME NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Lourie (Larine) Jew
Ouritski Jew
Volodarski Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
I’ve pointed this out before but I think at some point Trump unleashes this:
https://www.westernjournal.com/little-known-clinton-approved-treaty-ukraine-help-us-investigate-criminal-cases/
I’ve never understood the whole impeachment issue. They impeached Clinton and he still stayed in office. I guess they expect the Orange Man will follow Nixon and resign. Orange Man out of office or Brexit? Given the quagmire of modern politics, I wouldn’t bet on either.
If Nixon’s party showed the same Will to Power that Dems showed with Clinton, he could’ve stayed. Betting on the GOP to betray or cuck is always chalk.
For an explanation of the Trump Hatred/Impeachment insanity read this article: https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/24/the-hatred-that-fuels-impeachment/
Simply put, Trump is not, and never will be, of the “Cloud People.” The Cloud People want Trump, and us, dead.
I wish more people understood this simple fact. These people really do hate us and want us dead. We need to react to them the way Jews react to antisemitism.
We have a bicameral legislature. Only the House voted to impeach Clinton.
Definitions matter (well, at least to our side).
Having the House vote to impeach a president constitutes that president having been successfully and completely impeached. It is a done deal at that point. That’s the definition of impeachment.
Removing the president from office is a separate procedure, and is done – or not – by the Senate.
For the record, Clinton was impeached and Nixon was not.
Hmm…Joe Stalin says never purge until you’re in power.
He’s got a point.
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-groypers-of-wrath/
More Russia history; summary until Putin the Harvard Mafia was in bed with the Russian Oligarchs and Soros, et al. Putin ended that. The Harvard Mafia moved onto Ukraine-oh and uh er in interim did same to us with Housing Finance, QE etc. Now Victoria nuland, husband of Robert Kagan joins the plot with “fuck the EU” etc. They’re just being themselves, the fault is ours for sharing power. Now Trump is seen as the American Putin. They’re shitting their pants. As for Jared – Trump power marriage. This splits the core opposition. That’s all. Competence is never pure-not in… Read more »
Meanwhile Biden has White / Latinix intersectionality issues.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/11/25/biden-senior-latina-adviser-quits-073553
Let me prophesize; sooner or later we’ll get a Dem in, and when Latinix doesn’t get open borders they’ll go Spartacist.
The DemSoc leader will then reach out to the Right ala Freikorps…and off we’ll go.
Z one of your most astute and humorous. However, they could never accuse Trump of being a witch because witches vote Democrat.
O’Donnell
Foreign names like William Taylor and George Kent?
The Ukrainium Meltdown.
Jewish interest? Criminals return to the scene of the crime. Holodomor anyone? Duranty still has his Pulitzer. Where is the outcry against Holodomor denial?
This universe ain’t big enough for 2 Woist Things Evuh.
Are there any Ukrainian Super Models? Vogue says there are at least 11 new ones on top of the already existing 25 we should know about.
I thought the ark was in Afghanistan.
It’s in Turkey. (Mt. Ararat)
Not in Ararat. Noah’s Ark is a different thing than the Ark of the Covenant.
hahahahaha classic
That would explain why Noah couldn’t fit all those animals in the Ark of the Covenant. 🙂
I am thinking of the classic Spinal Tap scene, where they order a model of Stonehenge…
As for why Ukraine is important for usual suspects. There seems to have been a deal whereby it was to be given to them for the financial support in WWII. This is why Stalin gifted it to Ukraine, to avoid payment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine#Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea
5000 A.D., after printing has been rediscovered:
“Our Shtetl Empire was glorious, mighty, ruled by the wisest of kings, receiving tribute from dozens of lands!
Next year… next year, in Kiev!”
‘ They would have been better served offering up spectral evidence that Trump is a witch.”
Maybe Jason Jorjani could help them with that.
“This small unimportant country on the fringe of Europe…”
Lol, it’s bigger than California; largest country in all of Europe, really.
Is there a WordPress Pedant Points program that gives spergs a bonus for picking irrelevant nits?
“Actually” Achievement Unlocked.
that’s why there are so many books, movies, and songs about Ukraine. it’s an empty shit hole. there, I fixed that for you.
Only Trump’s staunchest defenders could believe that he wasn’t up to something in Ukraine. (Which is very different from saying he should be impeached for it.) He was clearly running a game where at the same time the establishment diplomats were all pushing for a public meeting with Zelinksy, Trump had Giuliani, Sondland, etc., pushing for Ukraine to investigate 2016 election interference and Burisma/Biden. The game was name make the linkage between the two issues explicit, and let the Ukrainians figure it out. The establishment diplomats eventually would figure it out as well, they wouldn’t hear it said by anyone.… Read more »
Trump was well within his authority as the duly elected President to request an investigation into 2016 election interference and Bursima, and any role the Biden’s may have played in shutting down the previous investigations. The fact that Joe Biden is running for President does not grant him immunity from such an investigation.
I watched Sondland testify. He’s a complete moron who was in way, way over his head. Not smart enough to be a (((rat))).
I agree with everything you said about Trump and Biden. As for Sondland, he’s definitely the linchpin of the quid pro quo argument. It’s at best a weak theory, but there are a LOT of Conservative, Inc., Republicans in the Senate that would love to get rid of this troublesome president. I put the odds very low, but not at zero, that he is removed.
did it tickle when you pulled this nonsense out of your ass?
No, but I did just pull huge Mchungus out of my nose. Seriously. You see it all has just one big coincidence and misunderstanding? If so, that’s adorable.
Call the FBI – a politician is “up to” politics
The selective criminalization of perfectly normal historically unremarkable political action is laughable. These shills have legalized bribery, extortion and mass censorship of US citizens and people want to split hairs over Trump arm-twisting the Ukraine?
We’re plotting coups in every theatre of operations worldwide, false-flagging WMD attacks, strangling opponents with sanctions and have done everythng to foreign national Julian Assange but Epstein him (so far, give them time). But let’s get all wee-wee’d about perfectly normal day-to-day diplomatic pressure being applied by the CINC?
I don’t the reason for downvoting this. It could be very close to the deal that trump was trying to work. And as far as I’m concerned, he would have been completely justified in doing so. Not only because the whole crowd was corrupt, but because the people who had been making his life difficult we’re the ones making money off it.
Thanks for understanding my point my good man. I expected some here to have an us-against-them reaction to this, so it’s nice to have someone see past that. I posted something similar at The Conservatives Treehouse website, and they REALLY hated me. I’m just looking at the facts as I see them and trying to make sense of them. I’d have less respect for Trump if he stumbled into this hornets nest accidentally. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, but of course, it could all come out of my ass, I suppose…
“Third and fourth generation Irish Americans have no interest in Ireland.“ This is how I know you’re not serious.
And this is how we know you’re a dunce. Remember, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Ireland would be happy if Irish-Americans came back. Ukraine, not so much. Especially those with ‘favorite tribe’ status.
In America, the Irish like the shamrocks and other highly Americanized symbols of Ireland, but that’s as far as it goes. A generation ago we still had Irish following the Troubles, but that’s died out now. Italians, Poles, Germans, etc are even less invested in the old country.
This debased McDonald’s version of Irish culture is all I’ve seen in Scandinavia. I’ve been to more authentic Irish bars in SoCal than I’ve seen in Europe so far. Maybe in Russia…
How was your trip to ireland?
Word. My mother’s father was born in Ulster, came to America as a teenager. Hated Catholics. So what did Mom do as an American-born girl? Married a nice Catholic boy.
I do remember about 25 years ago when I worked on Capitol Hill, that an employee of the Congressional Research Service that the country about which members and their staffs most frequently was Ireland. I admit that may not be the case today.
Reliable metrics of assimilation (you know, that thing we used to think was a good thing?) are intermarriage and adopting the English language whilst forgetting the language of the homeland. I’m with Zman here. American Micks and Paddys could care less about only marrying fellow Irish, and they sure as hell don’t speak Irish. They’re barely even practicing Catholics anymore. Contrast those metrics to the small hat brigade (intermarriage, single language use at home and in public, and holding on to the old faith). There’s a group screaming loud and clear “we are apart from you”. Their choice, of course.… Read more »
If that were so they wouldn’t have sent John Deasy to campaign for amnesty for Irish illegals and advocating for the Irish to be eligible for E3 visas. (BTW, that was Paul Ryan’s last hurrah. Passed the House but not the Senate. Although it’s not dead yet.) The Republic is big on the remittances sent back from their nationals working abroad (both legit and under-the-table).
I think you’re being a little unfair, Z. Those Potato Famine memorials in Boston, Cambridge, and NYC are relatively new. The older generation was too busy putting food on the table. On the other hand some among the older generation supported NORAID (when you lived here did you never see that billboard over the Pike?) I still think it’s a bad trend when memorials are erected in a country that had nothing to do with the event being memorialized.
It is a bad trend to make memorials to events that didn’t happen in the country or to it’s people. I say that as an American of Irish heritage.
These brother wars have got to end.
Europeans unite. Need nation states for each people. However, the American experiment is a European one. That said, later European immigrants who embrace America First and Americanism is fine in my book.
Don’t you dare blaspheme the sacred name of the sainted James Stephens, poet, critic, and novelist extraordinaire.
Get another nick, punk.
Judging by the pozzing of Ireland in the last 10 years, it’s safe to say 20th generation Irish-Irish have no interest in Ireland. Their kids and grandkids are all waiting tables and pouring drinks in LA.
In faux-Irish pubs, with a good time being had by all!
Next thing you’re going to tell me the Tilted Kilt Pubs aren’t authentically Scottish!
Last time I was in Dublin, it was overrun with Poles, Afghans, and Americans. London-lite.
Was the “I” in AIPAC for “Ireland?” Gosh, I never knew.
A couple of articles back he wrote about how the irish were still very anti Anglo so there does seem to be a contradiction with his statement in this piece.
The real Irish have tired of their worship of terrorists but I wonder if they started bombing again whether Oirish Americans would be back to fund raising?
You must have me confused with someone else.
Yah, you post a merciful pittance on the micks. But then they aren’t worth posting about.
I’m part Irish. Not only do I have no interest in modern Ireland but am merely left with a bad taste in my mouth when I hear about. It’s far left freakshow, europhile, completely atheist and globalhomoized. They live to consume product and procure abortions. In 20 years, the country will probably be majority minority, with vibrant Ethiopian and Somali joints replacing Irish ones. Maybe the English were right afterall.
The thousand shades of green are turning brown.
Whither the Ireland of Sean Thornton, Mary Kate Danaher, Michaeleen Flynn, and Father Lonergan?
You fight that bad blood! Cromwel knew just how to treat the micks.
My priest of many years was Irish born and bred, and he gave the best homilies. Every one a parable of the real world and he brought the Island alive in my imagination. Conversely, my uncle (who married into the family) was 2nd generation Irish and not anything at all like the real deal. He was morose rather than prideful of his heritage.