Tucker Carlson has a UFO problem. Going back to the start of his Fox show, he has done segments on various claims about space aliens visiting earth. These are not claims by people, who swear they have been probed by big gray men, but the claims of people who worked in government at one time or another. He has even interviewed people, who worked on government UFO programs. Recently he had former Pentagon people on to talk about this story of a secret UFO file.
People like these sorts of stories, even if they don’t believe in little green men secretly visiting our planet. It’s fun to think about what it would be like if we did verify such visitations from another world. Tucker is not a kook, so his interest in this topic should not be dismissed out of hand. The American government has taken the issue seriously, at least according to that recent story. So much so they have had top men working on it for a very long time. They think it could be true.
The crux of the matter is that pilots have, on multiple occasions, recorded objects buzzing around in ways that cannot be explained. At least they look like objects in the videos released to the public. In these videos, pilots and crew can be heard asking questions about what they are seeing. No official explanation has been offered, so we are left to assume they don’t know either. It seems that on many occasions, American fighter pilots have spotted UFO’s.
Now, it has to be said that many of these could simply be clever pranks by servicemen with too much free time. Every year someone gets busted for making a contrail penis in the sky, so these guys like pranks. Others could simply be anomalies that have a boring technical explanation, so no one bothers with them. Maybe this is just another part of how the government keeps people distracted. The secret UFO files are just part of the ongoing psyops to distract the public from noticing too much.
The trouble with the various ways of dismissing the UFO stuff is it often sounds as conspiratorial as the theories explaining why these are visiting aliens. Repeatedly, we see that the people running the American government are too dumb to execute the basic functions of the state. It’s unlikely they are working a complex, multi-generational deception involving fake UFO video. The people who use text messages to plot sedition are not going to be working such a complicated scheme.
What the facts tell us about this stuff is the American government has recorded lots of these events and they remain unexplained. There is a good chance other militarizes have had similar experiences. The Russians and Chinese probably have divisions that collect up and examine unexplained phenomenon. It’s not out of the question that there is some contact between these government agencies, at least an acknowledgement that they exist for the same reasons.
The two possible explanations for the evidence are that it is the result of some completely unknown natural phenomenon or it is space aliens. Both answers would mean large gaps in our understanding of the natural world. Theoretical physicists have been at a dead end for a long time. Space exploration has been stalled for generations. Our understanding of our natural world is at its infancy. These phenomena could simply be more proof that we don’t know a whole lot.
Of course, if these are space aliens, it means some species well beyond our understanding has solved problems we cannot contemplate. For example, our best science is not all that sure humans can live in space long enough to travel beyond Mars and back, without dangerous physical consequences. If we are being visited by aliens, it means they solved the problem of carbon based life forms living in space for long periods without being destroyed by radiation.
It would also mean these aliens conquered the physical problem of traveling between galaxies. That means they either live long enough to go light years into space or they have invented propulsion devices that allow for speeds beyond anything we think is possible with what we know of physics. Alternatively, they have found a way to fold space in order to move from one location to another. Instead of physically traveling through space, they make space travel for them.
All of the possible explanations for how visitors from another world raise the age-old science fiction movie paradox. How could a race so advanced be so easily caught on our primitive video? If they have the ability to bend space, they will have the ability to bend light or at least have really good camouflage. They would see our primitive airships long before we were able to see them. These videos contradict the one possible answer for why they exist in the first place.
The answer to that could simply be that they are observing us and part of it is to see how humans react to limited exposure to the possibility of aliens. This could be nothing more than part of the simulation that is our existence. You can come up with all sorts of entirely unprovable explanations for why super intelligent space aliens are getting caught on video. If you want to believe in UFO’s, there’s always a way to maintain the belief in the face of this type of skepticism.
There is one other angle to the UFO stuff. It feeds the need to believe that our governments have super-secret stuff hidden away in super-secret government agencies run by X-Files types. For some reason, people need to believe this. It’s probably because deep down, people won’t except that their government is staffed by stupid people who got lucky. The fate of the world depends on a series or average people guessing the right way or making the right mistakes.
That could be the real psyop. The people in charge know that the rest of us need to think they have things under control. The fake UFO footage is intended to promote the idea that our government has these super-secret programs. If people believe that, they will believe the government screw-ups over foreign policy or economic affairs are really part of some super-secret scheme involving deep state actors. The real psyop is covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.
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They took one look at Africa and the Middle East and said, “nope, there’s still too many savages…”
I can’t imagine what’s going to happen if a white scientist discovers the secret to interstellar travel. Then there’s going to be the ultimate white flight to Planet Whitey. I hope there’s someone smart enough to not leave a forwarding address so our lessers can’t follow us, demanding space gibs…
“Honey, Chicago is too expensive and crime-ridden. I heard good things about Blanco Prime.”
What makes you think the first planet you find that looks like it can support human life – won’t also be full of a bunch of prehistoric savages all looking to get onto the gibs train?
We landed in the Pacific islands and this happened:
We figured out interstellar travel only to end up with this:
Human beings who wanted to have their civilization survive used to understand that you needed to eliminate parasites – not run away from them.
Maybe the universe is full of advanced beings that have the same attitude as the Sentinal islanders.
We can only hope.
Even just one planet like that would make a good destination point to get lefties to emigrate to.
“The US/Russian Interstellar Space Travel announced today that life forms have been discovered in the Nebularis system. Initial reports indicate that the planet is populated with multiple tribes who have yet to discover how to dig a well for water. The Bill Gates fund has announced an effort to send volunteers to remedy this issue – and so far tens of thousands of volunteers have signed up from hundreds of universities worldwide”
No, the lefties would want to bring them all back here, because they’re natural Earthlings.
Calsdad, here’s the deal. Sign ‘em all up. All the university types. They get to be pioneers! Only after launch do we let them figure out it is arranged as a one way trip…
Maybe the looked us over and said, “Nothing to see here. Move on.”
I’m thinking maybe the aliens have figured out that Diversity Is Not Their Strength, so they’re shrewdly ignoring our efforts to communicate.
Man, that second group of cargo cultists makes the first group look really lazy!
They’re on to something. You just just have to build your replica jet realistic enough to actually take off! Power to the struggle, hard-working cargo cultists!
What was that Muppet show, was it
“Gibs… In… SPAAAACE”
Go read Kornbluths “The Marching Morons” for a better solution to dummies and Orcs.
It’s really funny. Dumb people are quite easy to swindle and lie to if you do it right,.
The people that make fun of my imaginary friend whom I pray to, swallow this all up.
I can’t wait for the Nazis from their moonbase launch an all out offensive on them.
Ironic huh? All the nazi pointing here in the U.S. for decades and they over look the most obvious place.
BTW, you mention aliens as the only other plausible explanation. I can’t believe you missed what many know to be true, an ancient earth civilization living in the Hollow Earth. Entrance is somewhere in Antarctica. Psyops? Please.
Nonwhites making human sacrifices to a demon? Ancient race hiding under Antarctica?
Further proof Lovecraft was a prophet.
The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket.
Jules Verne wrote a sequel. It’s name escapes me.
Verne’s sequel:
https://www.amazon.com/Antarctic-Mystery-Jules-Verne/dp/1521834040
Cracker please… They’re in an undersea domed city!
Yes, The science is settled.
Cracker please? Is that a thing now? Definitely going to start using it that’s hilarious
Entrance is somewhere in Antarctica.
Snæfellsjökull in Iceland, I’m reliably told.
Assuming that there are aliens and UFOs, it would be pretty reasonable to reckon that they are interested in our planet, not in us. They probably consider us a minor curiosity or a nuisance. Think of the time-window problem. What we call recognizable human civilization has only been around for about 10,000 years, on a planet full of air, water and resources that has been around for billions of years. And humans have only even been technologically capable of noticing alien aircraft for about 70 years. What are the odds that they would undertake a complex interstellar or intergalactic journey… Read more »
Don’t mistake a good mood for being soft.
We did not just get lucky and inherit great real-estate. It’s great because we made it great. If by some great accident of history we were instead in Africa, the rest of the peoples would be bitching that we just got lucky by inheriting Africa.
There is no magic dirt.
There are maybe three dozen out of 200 odd countries in the world with some semblance of acceptably corrupt government. The number of those not rooted in Northern Europe can be counted on the fingers of one foot (can’t discriminate against the aliens, can we?)
Maybe the space aliens are just spending the day at the zoo, zooming around and taking a look at the wildlife. Lion Country Safari had the drive-through zoo thing nailed, years ago.
What they are in the description is little translucent tic-tacs. They go impossibly fast and turn at impossible angles. I too am inclined to believe they are actually being seen. Navy pilots are not playing pranks with their FLIR cameras. I don’t think they are physical craft. Some kind of glitch in the matrix, beyond my ability to comprehend, seems more likely. Time distortion, holographic anomalies, artifacts of whatever celestial graphics engine this reality is using.
Perhaps the advanced beings come from a planet not saddled with semites and negroes, and were thus able to develop themselves and their sciences to the point of space travel. Imagine them studying us over the years, noting at one point, Look, the caucasian beings have developed early space travel! Will they continue on that road or take the other road, embracing and bringing the semites and negroes into their societies? Uh oh, looks like that’s the end of the caucasian advancement… and, holy cow, maybe even their existence!
We are all one big game of “Civilization”, I knew it!
The idea of aliens coming here to steal our delicious resources is an old sci-fi trope but like everything Hollywood and the media sell us it’s nonsense. Take the idea of aliens stealing the Earth’s water. It seems plausible because water in liquid form is rare in the solar system requiring a combination of decent pressure and relatively high temperature. If all you need is water though, there’s more water just on Jupiter’s moon Europa than in all the Earth’s oceans. We can’t get that water but aliens with starships certainly can. It doesn’t matter that it’s frozen. They can… Read more »
Maybe earth is the extraterrestrials’ version of Epstein’s island – fly here on a private craft, grab some bizzare nonconsentual illicit nookie and head back to the mainland. Maybe its their version of Mossad operating the venture, thus allowing the primitives to make compromising records of the visits…
What you can learn about the motives of extraterrestrials (or even other humans) is largely limited to their rational motives. So we can know the aliens are probably not here to steal our water – unless, say, they have a weird religion in which the Earth’s water alone is “holy” in some fashion because in their sky our sun makes the top point of the water symbol in their astrological system. Then all that stuff I said above is moot.
Heck, we’ve been conquered by guys with a Cargo Cult Air Force.
“The two possible explanations for the evidence are that it is the result of some completely unknown natural phenomenon or it is space aliens.” There’s also a third option: there are supernatural dimensions beyond our physical senses, and occasionally metaphysical beings make entrances into our natural world. So these phenomena don’t necessarily come from alien planets. The Christian religion (specifically Paul) speaks of “cosmic powers” at war … so possibly UFOs are an occasional manifestation? I’m persuaded the answers are to be found in metaphysics, not physics. My father and I both saw UFOs while at sea, about 30 years… Read more »
Details?
Not much detail from my Dad … in the Pacific, far/far away from airfields and suddenly bright lights moving at rapid speed with quick directional changes. Their radar (although ancient by today’s standards) picked up nothing. After about a minute – poof – gone. I was in the Caribbean, 1980s, well within range of airports, carriers, etc. No Notice to Mariners or Notice to Airmen broadcasts in our area. Our surface and air-search radars energized … we weren’t sailing in company. Lookout reported light off the beam, low target-angle (altitude in degrees off the horizion), rapid directional changes. Everyone on… Read more »
Capn; For the benefit of nor-mil readers: Here’s one reason why your ship Capt. likely didn’t report the sighting, despite its being confirmed by multiple reliable witnesses, is definitely having to do with the promotion board to Admiral. That is, these are really *non-promotion* boards, meaning that board members are looking at a lot more apparently fully qualified promotion files that there are promotion openings. So anything in any file that would enable those board members to ‘throw the file on the floor’, i.e. pass over somebody, in clear conscience is most welcome. Reporting a UFO sighting would definitely qualify… Read more »
Al – Yep. I sat on promotion boards and saw the sausage being made. You’re correct shipmate!
The other thing is the context of the 1980s … in a weird way it was a lot like today. Anything remotely military-minded that wasn’t understood was blamed on Soviet malfeasance. We thought their military was incredibly advanced (not quite true), and their spy ships were everywhere (quite true.) So another reason our Captain didn’t report the UFO – he probably thought it was Soviet shenanigans and didn’t want to advertise that he’d been caught unawares. It’s always the Russians, eh?
I was fortunate enough to see something too- a vertical drop of a couple thousand feet to a sudden standstill in air, then lateral acceleration to over the horizon in about 4 seconds.
Can’t use it, any of it, so I refuse to have an opinion.
I think the Zman has deftly explained the History Channel, though. Ye gods.
And the Travel Channel too! They’ve gone full ghostbusters, can’t let people see the Nice Places ruined by diversity customers.
Bruce Charlton theorizes that UFOs might be angels or demons. “My main hypothesis is that UFOs are part of the spiritual warfare between angels and demons; and how this is manifested to certain people in certain circumstances. However, the matter is of UFOs nearly always discussed in a materialist (and unChristian/ anti-Christian) context. In other words, some UFO phenomena are probably angels (or made by them) while others are demonic…Many millions of people very quickly developed strong and detailed beliefs in alien existence, contact, communication and plans that were based on no more than hearsay and dishonest mass media accounts,… Read more »
Egads. That’s like people who abuse the word “dimensions”, which is properly width, height, length, time, etc.
I saw one in the Jersey Pine Barrens. It was kind of a like helicopter, but with a lot of lights. It was just overhead for at least 10 miles driving down the road and flying pretty low too, but it was at night. To this day I have no idea what it was, but I am also pretty sure there is an air force base in the general area. It was certainly unidentified to me.
Maybe it was a helicopter with a lot of lights?
Flying at night!
Not like any helicopter I have ever seen. It was triangular with large rectangular lights.
TR3B
Tars;
NJ Pine Barrens airbase: McGuire AFB. Also an Army Base: Ft Dix. Probably an Army chopper on a night exercise, if it was a chopper, that is.
Fun fact: Wife and I were driving through the area back in the day. We started seeing the flora that seem to define Army bases world-wide: Sand, saw grass, scrub pines, etc. I said, “If I didn’t know better I’d swear that there ‘s an Army base nearby”. Topped a hill and saw a sign pointing to Ft. Dix 3 miles away.
Best NY Post headline ever:
Dix Six Nix Pix!
In the Old Testament, check out Ezekiel chapter 1 where he tells about the flying wheels he saw.
“The real psyop is covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.” Bingo. This is why all real historians (as opposed to the dorks who teach it in our schools) are hardcore conservatives. You could write the history of any major event as “stupid people making the dumbest possible decisions” and not go too far wrong. In fact, that’s one of the linchpins of my argument for going back to monarchy — at least you’ve only got one idiot in charge, who is dumb in (relatively) predictable ways. Democracy, though, is branch-chain idiocy — it gives a… Read more »
The problem with our leadership is deceit and graft. The stupidity is just an extra bonus. IMHO the leaders preferred stupid underlings, in part to protect their own “skim” operations, by making sure the junior guys were either too stupid to recognize it, or could be more easily intimidated if they started to squawk. Now the stupid underlings have inherited the mantle of power, and, man, we are all screwed. Angelo Codevilla has a great piece out today. Read it with this in mind, and it all makes sense, and is really very sad, in the end.
Personally, I hope this post blows up and this blog becomes Alien stuff all the time. Can we get 400 comments?
Maybe ZMan can become the new host of Coast to Coast AM?
And give George “Snory” Noory the boot? C2C was turning bad even towards the end of Art Bell’s days there, but certainly wouldn’t hurt.
He certainly has the voice for it. And we could count on shows about aliens. Illegal aliens.
. . . who make crop circles
I remember Coast to Coast Am back when Art Bell hosted it. KSFO 560. Michael Savage and the rest of therm.
Friend of insomniacs everywhere. RIP.
Truckers, too.
Babe in the Bunker anyone?
It worked for Alex Jones.
Only 118 so far! I’m so disappointed
“If we are being visited by aliens, it means they solved the problem of carbon based life forms living in space for long periods without being destroyed by radiation.” This is a large and not entirely necessary assumption. Since we are in the realm of speculative super-fiction they could just as easily be silicon based or even energy based having long since separated from the ‘decaying meat robot’ that we are all shackled into. If they are either their lifespan would be measured in orders of magnitude higher than humans so tens of thousands of years would be trivial. Likewise,… Read more »
“I’ve seen most of these pilots interviews they are not fruitcakes they are highly credible and many won’t even talk about it because they -understand- that to do so makes people automatically label you a wingnut.”
Dude, I don’t doubt a lot of these guys saw something weird during their tenures as pilots, but in current clown world all these supposed witnesses to UFOs still feeling suppressed and unable to “come forth” because society won’t take them serious is some BS. Public interest in this crap is huge.
“Likewise, we already know of tech that can ‘fold space’ and nullify gravity as well as other exotic super physics.” We really don’t. We have *some* theories that imagine that maybe these things are possible, but there is no experimental evidence of these theories at all.
NASA has become a gibs program for the highly educated and plagued by diversity. It is incapable of doing anything spectacular and has been for a very long time. Even when they do something, they set the bar really low so that they can exceed the artificially low expectation. After being stuck in low earth orbit for a few decades, we can’t even do that anymore. SETI might be a better place to look for aliens. If SETI or some other set of ears ever does come across some alien chatter, it could very well be from a civilization that… Read more »
“The real psyop is covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.”
If this is so, knowing it would help one endure. Thanks for cheering me up, I guess.
It sure keeps people from noticing the Mexicans pouring across the border, or the new Section 8 apartment building being built in the tidy, white neighborhood.
Going out on a limb here but as a Christian and one who believes in the metaphysical. There is the possibility this is another dimension we are seeing? The book of Acts describes Christ ascending into the clouds and disappearing. If this in fact what a human eye saw accordingly to the Christian faith then we know that there is nothing beyond the clouds except space. No Heaven up there. But if Christ disappeared into another dimension? And there are windows occasionally into and out of that dimension? Just sayin. It makes as much sense at this point as anything… Read more »
So are aliens on other planets also born into sin?
If they reproduce sexually and their sex is binary, e.g., Beldar and Primaat, yes.
So God’s first commandment to all things, “be fruitful”, is the cause of sin, then.
No, Primaat tempted Beldar to eat of the forbidden fiberglass.
I upvoted you Epaminondas because that is such a great example of what happens when the actual experience the mind is having collides with belief
C.S. Lewis, in his “Space Trilogy” novels, appeared to think that other worlds were insulated from the Fall in Eden. When I read those books years ago, I had the impression that Earth had been isolated from Mars and Venus, for example, to prevent the spread of rebellion against the Most High – within the context of the novels.
Good question, I will answer from a Catholic theological perspective and my limited understanding. 1. Assuming that either the aliens are a different species, they would not be borne into Original Sin like humans. 2. Possessing free will however, they could still choose to do evil thus would either be sentenced to damnation like Lucifer and his followers or would need a redeemer depending on whether the nature of the aliens is more like angels or humans. 3. I do not believe their own redeemer would be necessary given Christ’s death. Sin is infinitely offensive to a God who perfectly… Read more »
There is plenty of evidence to indicate that the Soviets took UFOs pretty seriously back in the Cold War, so whatever this phenomenon is, its international. Aliens would seem to be a pretty unlikely explanation, but it’s obviously some real physical phenomenon; I mean, with the proliferation of cameras everywhere, sightings of things like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster have diminished to near zero, but UFOs have been captured on camera many, many times. And of course, if it is aliens, this changes everything. Even a small possibility of this requires careful investigation.
From the interwebs: ” So far, astronomers have found more than 500 solar systems and are discovering new ones every year. Given how many they have found in our own neighborhood of the Milky Way galaxy, scientists estimate that there may be tens of billions of solar systems in our galaxy, perhaps even as many as 100 billion. ” 500 solar systems? To me that seems like a high enough number to give good odds that there is actually life out there somewhere. Tens of billions of solar systems? That would seem to almost guarantee that there is life out… Read more »
To me that seems like a high enough number to give good odds that there is actually life out there somewhere.
Really? What, exactly, are the odds of abiogenesis?
Don’t know – but caring what those odds are would depend on whether you believe in abiogenesis or not – wouldn’t it?
I’m not one of those whose beliefs rule out any actual empirical realities. Currently life exists in this universe. At one point, it did not — at least, not as we know it. That implies — no, requires — biogenesis. Whether you get to add the ‘a’ just depends on how you think that happened. The only other option is that life was created — which leads to the question of how the intelligence that created life itself originated, but the need for infinite prior causes dogs not only questions about the origin of life but the existence of anything… Read more »
An internet search reveals Bigfoot sightings are still going strong. One of the most recent: https://www.strangerdimensions.com/featured/bigfoot-sightings-2019/ “The elusive Bigfoot creature continues being spotted throughout diverse regions of the United States. According to never-before-released data from the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, the state of Washington ranks as the world’s most active Bigfoot region with 2,032 alleged Sasquatch sightings. California, home of the world’s most famous purported Bigfoot footage, ranks second in the nation with 1,697 encounters. Following California is Pennsylvania with 1,340 sightings and Michigan with 1,131 sightings. Rounding out the list are New York (1,068 sightings), Ohio (1.024 sightings), Oregon… Read more »
With UFOs, there are good pictures/videos of something, whether it’s space aliens or some natural phenomenon we don’t understand or whatever. But with Bigfoot and the proliferation of smartphones, there are no decent pictures.
Also, we don’t seem to know what the hell UFOs are if they are anything at all. If there are big, hairy apemen in North America, why has no one found a carcass or bones? No hunter has ever shot one. There’s no Bigfoot roadkill.
Who has the means to produce good pictures/videos, just sayin’?
https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-night-space-simulated-images-2017-8#there-are-many-different-tweaks-to-polish-a-shot-he-says-amping-up-city-lights-raising-mountains-or-casting-artificial-moonlight-in-just-the-right-way-14
“First Nations” across the globe (w/ apologies to our Flat-Earth brethren) all have tales of these creatures. If there were one account like “Loch Ness” or “Champ” I’d dismiss it outright. But like UFOs witnesses, there are thousands of Bigfoot witnesses and many are hunters or loggers who know what is a bear. What’s going on?
Spoiler:
Yes, we did. And this is exactly what proves Zman point about idiots in Government. After 1991, all the archives in Soviet Union were briefly open and we were shocked how dumb and irrational and out of touch our dear leaders really were. Soviet union was also interested in other paranormal stuff, they had big offices and even shaman from Siberia promoted to general of the Army. Paranormality is always sign of collapse. When our society went down first time in 1917 , we had also paranormal folk in charge,Rasputin most known.
I used to live on the Northwest edge of Las Vegas. Once in a while I’d hear sonic booms with triple or quadruple echoes. I was on an Air Team in the Marines and heard sonic booms many times – these were different, from something going much faster. I doubt it was from aliens, more likely skunk works experiments out of Nellis Air Force Base.
This is a real fun one! Joe Rogan interviewing Bob Lazar who according to Lazar worked at Area S4 Groom Lake 15 miles s/o Area 51, with a team deconstructing downed alien vessels and an anti-gravity device. I almost got an official looking entry decal for my car for Area S4 Groom Lake and then thought …oh crap..better not. Take away what you will. Why at the time they wanted to keep the Russians from this knowledge…if it is reality. The whole interview was great fun. Don’t bother with Corbell’s documentary….dumb and hokey. Basic Husband lived in that area 35… Read more »
Where I live, there have been loud “booms” going on for years—off and on. The Air Force base in town denies setting them off—munitions detonation or pilot training. I’ve heard both and these are different. They are recorded for a hundred miles into the barren desert and heard by many others in town and out. Local news has had reports and investigations. X-file stuff to be sure.
I worked with a young guy in the nineties. He had been in the air force and after he got out for a short time he was a security guard. he got a job guarding the trash dump in south Dade county (Miami) near Homestead. Locals call the dump Mount Trashmore as it is one of the highest elevated points in South Florida. He said one night a large silent black triangular craft floated overhead. As it went by very low reeds and grasses shook below it and some of the dry parts caught on fire. He said what was… Read more »
This backs my suspicion that we have some military drone tech that can move hypersonically, but the that the gov’t wishes to keep secret.
I don’t know how much if anything I believe about UFOs but I do know this, there is nothing you could say the government was hiding from us that I wouldn’t at least consider.
Would everyone please desist from using the racist and hateful word “aliens”. They are Unidentified Migrants.
I scent a whiff of Terran Privilege.
Maybe the aliens have their own problems with their Strzok/Page equivalents flipping the cloaking switch “off” while humping on the control panel. But have met and worked with enough ex-Navy and Air Force pilots to believe they are not excitable observers.
The question is are they honest? I know it’s unpatriotic to ask. All our service members are Dudley Do Right.
That is always a question. But regardless, OODA is drilled into them in training. Two were F-14 drivers on carriers.
That’s what Hillary’s emails were hiding.
The embarrassing alien text messages.
A fun column with a great twist ending. Thanks Z-man.
The late 80’s and the first Gulf War really enhanced the US government’s credibility. The economy was moving after the 70’s stagflation, the internet was just taking off, and the US military won decisively against what many considered a competent opponent with good Soviet equipment. That made shows like the X-Files seem plausible. No one today would believe that show.
We know very little about our world and the universe. I am also willing to wager a lot of what we do know is wrong and even what is correct is only right up to a certain point.
It is still a lot of fun to watch today though. Really holds up well.
“Others could simply be anomalies that have a boring technical explanation, so no one bothers with them.” From New Scientist Sept 1983: Triboluminescense is a more likely candidate of UFO phenomenon than piezoelectricity. TLS is the emission of visible radiation due to frictional forces (in the solid earth); it is in effect a cold-light emission, a visible radiation that is due primarily to some cause other than temperature. TLS produces light by causing electrons to to jump from higher to a lower energy levels by frictional forces…have also noted that friction producing light in samples of rock-crystal and granite is… Read more »
Back in 1975 or so, I witnessed (along with my companion), on a very clear, cloudless evening, bright white “objects” (they looked like bright stars) racing across the sky in a totally random manner somewhat similar to the movement of a ball during a game of racquetball. That is, the objects would move across the sky and abruptly change direction and reverse course. These objects raced across the ENTIRE visible night sky in a second or two and they reversed direction instantaneously. Pulled off the road to get a better look and we watched these objects for several minutes. One… Read more »
Grew up with all the stories of abductions and seeing aliens running around in forests and roads. Always assumed if they were real, some guy named Verle would had hauled one to the check staton during season to ask the Man if he’d just wasted his deer tag.
Remus would have had one by now.
Stop all this human supremacy! Alien cuisine is yummy.
You can read all about their cuisine in the aliens’ cookbook.
To Serve Man. 😁
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=876eUzWbMN0
Weird, green-skinned alien creatures don’t need high-tech cloaking devices or camouflage. They can just turn up at Heathrow airport and blend in.
In fact, that’s probably their gateway. Nobody has noticed.
“The real psyop is covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.”
Or that we are ruled by predatory psychopaths who run and easily cover up successful blackmail operations involving underage children (Finders, Dutroux, Epstein, Franklin/Craig Spence, etc.) The UFO nonsense is clearly a mass distraction exercise, but what is being elided is so monstrous that widespread comprehension of the nature of our “owners” must be avoided at all costs.
The hardest part for me is believing that aliens would come all this way and then spend all their time futzing around doing nothing in particular, other than occasionally putting on a light show or maybe sticking a probe up someone’s butt. Much easier to believe this is just another case of selective reporting. Not malicious or conspiratorial in this case; just people ignoring a zillion instances where nothing strange happened and reporting one where it did, forgetting that if you have a zillion instances there are always going to be a few where something strange appears to have happened,… Read more »
The hardest part for me is believing that aliens would come all this way and then spend all their time futzing around doing nothing in particular, other than occasionally putting on a light show or maybe sticking a probe up someone’s butt
Douglas Adams’ explanation is that it’s basically drunk teenagers fcuking with humans for a lark.
Then of course there’s the 15th c. painting “The Madonna With Saint Giovannino”
http://cdn.thestorypedia.com/images/2016/06/tumblr_lq0i0jedzQ1qb751ho1_500.jpg
It’s a cloud that shines divine light. Given that the picture is of Jesus and Mary, makes sense.
No doubt. Although the artist clearly knew how to paint clouds as there are many in the larger version of the painting. (I’m just posting in the spirit of the thread.)
Don’t look very cloudlike to me- plus he had to get it past the censors.
They could be from different time streams not different planets. No need for lights speed problem to be solved. They could be mechanicals drones sent to explore the universe.
That’s my thinking, drones. Whoever they are don’t ride in them, and they really don’t care if we see the drones or not, what’s it to them if we do? They are just looking around like Google Maps cars do.
Hmm! Good one!
No crews, no worry about the length of time involved.
As long as they don’t start dropping of self-replicating von Neuman packages, that is.
Did anyone watch/listen to the Joe Rogan episode about this? He had a guy on who apparently worked at a not-so-secret airbase where they had like 9 alien craft. I got a weird vibe from that interview…like he was there to misdirect bugmen into thinking about secret alien encounters and advanced American tech. The interview lasted 2 hours but he didn’t say much…he kept complaining about a migraine, and the interview arc had a lot of build-up but no interesting reveals. (Rogan of course kept going off on silly tangents.) For example, he wow-just-wowed the technology, but he never said… Read more »
You’re thinking of Bob Lazar. He’s been around since the late 80’s. I’ve never found him terribly credible and the guy he went on Rogan with is an absolute joke.
Don’t watch Lazar’s Netflix doc, it’s garbage.
Rogan is an absolute retard. He is always pushing drugs on his audience. Of course, he is married into the tribe. His audience is bugman central.
Ah, Joe “DMT” Rogan. He’s fun to listen to, like Alex Jones, if you don’t take him seriously.
Joeprah definitely has a strange gatekeeping NLP vibe to me.
Its could just be that he knows his audience and their intellectual constraints and the long format require the sorts of tangent and rabbit hole rhythm he can’t seem to avoid.
Mushrooms. MMA. Ayahuasca. Bow hunting. Sell dick pills. repeat.
I was calling him ‘Joe Rogaine’ but now I shall call him ‘Joeprah’ if that’s alright with you
No it’s not super secret tech that much is certain. The black program peeps can’t openly say that because of the papers they signed. If you want to see most of our cutting edge tech read Janes and Aviation Leak. The fact is we’re losing our innovative talent. It’s being driven out of the big aerospace firms. They;ve become welfare programs. The litany of f-ups by Boeing and LM can fill a book, Todays Lockheed is not the same company than created and built the SR-71 Boeing is a train wreck. Look at the 737 MAX which is a complete… Read more »
Large complex projects, like the 737 Max, are for advanced, complex societies, not for stunted, juvenile societies full of black and brown people.
Knew a guy who worked at a government lab in the Midwest. He said they had a place everyone called the “dead alien room”. Rows and rows of pad locked chest freezers with a 24/7 armed guard. One morning they came to work, the door was standing open and the room had been cleared out. There was never any explanation.
Crap circles!
The two most interesting bits I’ve seen on this:
A tiny local paper in Iowa reported on a crop circle. One problem- the grasses inside had been braided together. Braided.
In 1999, I think, the official US Navy website showed an ongoing video for three days, then eliminated it.
A telecom satellite showed an indistinct picture, as it was several thousand miles away in geosynchronous orbit, but still the closest they could get.
What it showed was a long rectangle, huge, hovering about 80 miles above the Bay Area. For at least three days.
Almost as freaky as bovine mutilations.
“The events have certainly had no lack of media coverage, leading to a host of crazy conjectures ranging from Bigfoot to government corruption. The popular opinion, however, seems to be extraterrestrial activity – sneaky aliens coming down to Earth, mutilating livestock and creeping back to their UFOs, tote bags full of souvenir cow penises. Another widespread speculation is the involvement of Satanic cults.
Interestingly enough, according to local experts, this may be the most likely theory.”
https://www.bendsource.com/bend/cattle-mutilations-and-a-satanic-cult/Content?oid=11366005
Or… the Chupacabra!
It’s what Nevada test radiation does to jackalopes. Just like Bikini Island did to turtle eggs and Godzilla.
No doubt some government employees are lucky dimwits, but they’re relatively harmless compared to the criminally corrupt sociopaths that use the platform of government service to rob the US taxpayer blind. I’ll take a dimwit over a Clinton Corruptocrat every time. If there are space aliens, maybe they can save us from the professional politician.
The Reptilians got here decades ago. I can never reconcile the stupidity and incompetence I see around me with the brilliance that must exist in some government agencies such as NASA to create voyager or how they landed on that comet or to invent MRI. I bet these were all Hillary voters too, lol. I think life is probably pretty common in the universe. I bet every few solar systems has a planet where complex macromolecules or bacteria level life has formed. But I bet large complex life is rare, and intelligent life even rarer, probably occurring once or twice… Read more »
I have to believe that the average “shelf life” of intelligent beings is impossibly short, in cosmic terms. Short of robots with neither emotions nor non-linear decision making in choices with incomplete information, how could it be otherwise? The freedom to think and make choices is filled with fatal bad decisions, always. As a culture, we have managed to avoid that sort of thing for a little while, and that, in itself, is an anomaly. If the drones visiting us are extraterrestrial in origin, they are likely operated by either robots, or by no-one at all, as their host population… Read more »
That’s an interesting idea. AI drones which have outlasted their biological creators’ lives. They’re reporting back to a civilization long extinct! That’s a great sci-fi story!
Taking my own idea further, a justification of monarchy or other forms of divine right or despotic rule is that the rest of us simply don’t make good decisions, and we will kill ourselves off, if we are allowed unfettered decision-making. Instead, our anointed rulers will make better decisions in the name of all of us. Now go out there and look at who is in charge of things, and tell me that they are in any mental condition to make “good” decisions…
Well of course, but that’s all by design.
Centuries ago, perhaps the people who clawed their way to the top were superior in decision making and such. But HBD science would never support the concept of passing on the top position to one’s offspring. Too much variance wrt skill sets inherited. Of course, today’s electoral process seems to select candidates with only one common skill set—the ability to tell sweet lies. 🙁
Compsci, the frustration to me is that it is not about sweet (politically motivated) lies. It is that people somehow have lost the ability to observe batshit crazy and/or advanced senility for what it is, or have lost the common sense to consider it disqualifying for positions of power. We are led by people who one would never loan the car keys to, nor would we allow children to be unsupervised in their care for even five minutes. And yet…
Here, here, Dutch. I—too my continuing consternation—observed a decline is my faculties at the age of 60. There are workarounds, like sleeping on decisions for a day or two. But I no longer am as cocksure as I once was on figuring things out at a glance.
When I hear these Dem candidates or office holders talk on the stump, I tremble to think they might have power. When I screw up, it just costs me money to hire someone to get it fixed, or I suffer the criticism/rebuke of this group. I can live with that.
If things ever get bad enough for the “Deep State” (how I hate that term) and they feel like they might lose, their ace in the hole to ensure they hang onto power is a fake alien invasion.
Everything’s a psyop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They’ll have a false flag a la Orson Welles, only better. Our good friend Snopes debunks the mass hysteria, if you can believe Snopes.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/war-of-the-worlds/
They want us to believe they believe.
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/09/24/why-is-hillary-clinton-talking-to-laurence-rockefeller-holding-a-book-about-extraterrestrials/
Astronauts believe, too.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/3268325/meet-the-nasa-astronauts-who-believe-aliens-are-visiting-earth-and-communicating-with-humanity/
And that girl who took a picture of the black hole is the same one who develops the photon torpedo which saves us from an alien takeover
There’s a reference to a particular anime I want so badly to make here, but no one would get it (sad face).
Don’t tell me, Marko, that girl must be black. All super-scientists are.
The blue-eyed devil stole Yakob’s technology! Atlantis was black! So was Lemuria!
Can’t see a black hole. The doughnut-shaped toroidal structure, M87, is a plasmoid. The universe is electric.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GejukGvybs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4NffTr_GMk
Nothing sells the necessity of a rapid consolidation into globalism like an imminent alien invasion. “We must unite under one government to fight this threat to our way of life”.
A global FEMA would be the tits.
I’m not too worried. Based on the fact that three black ladies put our guys on the moon with only a slide rule, I am optimistic that the new united world administrators would be able to recruit an army of alien-fighting geniuses from our newly incorporated African brothers and sisters.
I believe that’s Bill Gates hypothesis. Tomorrow’s programmers, all. However, last I heard, not a single “genius” from Africa has been discovered.
Of course not, Compsci, we suppressed them, then burnt them in giant ovens.
Whitey so fookin’ evil.
Better explanation:
Whitey be the oppressive alien overlords!
Colonizing a peaceable colored planet!
Mutant slaves of the Conquest, we are.
Wait, wait, wait.
The biggest problem we have is an invasion by aliens.
They’re hanging onto power with it too.
The biggest psyop is telling us it isn’t real.
What I’m saying. Everything’s a psyop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’re right! It was in the Way Back When, too.
A guy named John Keel wrote many books on this stuff and had some very interesting ideas about it all.
I loved John Keel as a kid in the 1970s. His theory was that the entities themselves were “ultraterrestrials” while he considered himself a “demonologist.” Mysterious entities such as Bigfoot, Mothman and Dogman have been seen in every state including my state of NJ. We have our own Bigfoot nicknamed Big Red Eye for its glowing red eyes. Any number of people spot a creature, yet it disappears without a trace. I believe that they properly belong to the paranormal. UFO researchers noticed in the 1960s the similarity between tales of individuals abducted by aliens to old tales of people… Read more »
Years ago, in Westchester County, New York – there were a flurry of “UFO sightings”. Turned out to be a bunch of ultra-light aircraft guys with lights – flying around at night.
Total hoax. Took the minds of those shitlib NIMBY folks off their grasping of filthy lucre for a bit, but they soon got back to plotting how to enslave the nation’s youth in ‘college loan’ debt.
Too bad that last part was not the hoax, instead of the first.
The proof I have that aliens exist is the fact that I don’t recognize half the population of the USA as being human.
Meh. The UFO/Industrial Complex has always exuded a pseudo-religious aura. “Can more space aliens than angels dance on the head of a pin? Enquiring minds want to know!”
It we’re talking about UFOs it must be potpourri day. All topics are on the table. It’s open-line Thursday! Somehow I recently recalled that a piano player got a NYC ticker-tape parade when I was a kid. Looked it up: van Cliburn, for winning a big competition in the USSR, in 1958 when the Cold War was a big deal. (I ‘helped’ my dad dig our fallout shelter a couple of years later, inspired by the Cuban missile crisis. My dad was a nuke-tester at the test site near Vegas and knew the score.) Anyway, the point is, the list… Read more »
First, I think that the obsession with UFOs is a manifestation of the innate human longing for the divine. It also presents our ruling class a way to distract the masses from the real crimes with conspiracy theories and other nonsense. From what I know about Area 51, storming that area would’ve been a very stupid idea. I know engineers at our company who’ve done work there and they told me some of the security measures for those with top secret clearances are almost too fantastic to be believed. And the security operators there are all ex-Delta Force/SEAL/Force Recon types… Read more »
They are probably like Marvin Martian, and wanted to destroy Earth because it obstructs their view of Pluto, but backed off when the sympatico aliens living among us as our scientific elite demoted Pluto from full planet status. Explains why they demoted it.
Our government, ready to kill to protect access to Area 51 but doesn’t give a dann about who or what (suitcase nuke) walks across our southern border.
Another option entertained By C.G. Jung in his book “Flying Saucers,” was whether UFOs were a (single or mass) hallucination manifesting an interior psychological state.
That’s what we call “a miss”.
Credentialism. Bah, humbug.
Jung’s ideas of gestalt and dreams are better informed by the idea that we’re all leaky radios. He didn’t know enough radio science.
I can’t wait until we develop the technology to survive travel across unimaginable distances, at God knows what expense, so that we can play hide-and-seek when we get there. That will be a big return on investment.
High fructose corn diet is an Alien plot to fatten us up for the cull, they came “to serve man”
I think there are various levels to government competence. It is not a unitary system run by one genius. Before Snowden, the extent of the NSA spying program was unknown. The extent of Soviet infiltration wasn’t made public until the USSR collapsed. I don’t find it impossible that the government has some stuff hidden away on UFOs. Heck, I figured there wasn’t anything to the Kennedy assassination until the intelligence agencies freaked out when Trump wanted to declassify things.
Agree, Senator, we’ll never see the books of the Mafia or Cartel. Their size still doesn’t make them any more than low-brow brutes with enough money to hire smart help.
there might be alien civilizations out there but they would have no economic reason to go to other galaxies or solar systems. Inter-system exploration is another matter; see TV series “The Expanse”.
our space technology hasn’t improved since 1943 or thereabouts. Still using the same fuel and tech as Von Braun, at Peenemünde.
Might just be curiosity. Perhaps there’s a space alien outfit like the early Royal Society, just interested in finding out stuff for it’s own sake. I can see a four-eyed silicon-based life form Antonie van Leeuwenhoek marveling at the little squirming creatures he sees in his new fangled gravity wave microscope.
“…covering up the fact that we are ruled by lucky dimwits.”
The supranational jewish oligarchs have many insufferable traits, but dim-wittedness is not one of them.
“Is there anybody out there?”
Pink Freud
Kin I put a fiver down on aliens appearing in the next hour?
Truth be told, if I want to eyeball aliens, I just have to go to my town.
Ours don’t fly at Mach 1, however. They can barely drive and seem to prefer out of state plates.
The appearance of UFO videos purportedly from military sources during the previous year corresponds precisely to the rollout of the new Space Command branch of the US armed forces. Helps to justify the billions of dollars required for this effort by spicing up a little fear of alien invasion in the US taxpayer. Of course, the real reason for Space Command is playing catch up to Chinese space militarization.