An older female relative emailed me this morning with the link to the old white woman in New York just getting randomly punched by a black guy and how horrible that was and how afraid she is. She’s afraid of the world she created and I’m having a hard time having sympathy even for the old at this point. I emailed her back this Yes this is what happens when you spend several Generations inciting hate towards white people. I’ve seen this coming since I was in high school. it’s been abundantly obvious. I found it very frustrating for decades now… Read more »
Dig deeper, folks. You either already get this, or you will… Whenever I see a vid of a “yuth” wildly attacking an elderly person my first thought, my absolutely first thought, is, “Who did the victim vote for?”. If they voted Marxist, then the attack wasn’t brutal enough. I always like to see folks get what they’re begging for, good, bad, or otherwise.
Actions have consequences, or as a former President once said, elections have consequences. Without consequences, there can be no change in behavior. Unfortunately, the consequences are separated by time and space such that when they are felt, it’s to late to react, or change such behavior in order to prevent future consequences. And here we are.
We’re all doomed. However, if the Marxists – who dream of me being tortured to death in a reeducation camp – if some Marxists can go first at the hands of other Marxists,.. sure, I’ll take it
In the example above, one less Marxist enabler? …..sure, I’ll take it
What happened to the sympathy, that Z talked about? I think rudely telling her “Fuck off, you made your bed” is the wrong strategy.
If she is genuinely concerned about the world she has created, listen to those concerns, and gently increase the redpilling content. You can tell her that you predicted this for a long time.
It’s easy to be bitter but the brainwashing is strong. I was bluepilled at one point. We need sympathy for those who are drifting to our side. If they start drifting away, however, they must be cut off ruthlessly again.
Girlfriend…..I’m having a hard time being sympathetic also! Stupid wahmyn get beat up, and they still think they’re raaaaaacist and want to see the rest of us killed off as they view Whitey as the bad seed. These people are the brown shirts now conditioned to rat us out. The ancient muse of domesticity prompted me to clear out the book shelves. I have physical evidence of my long trek to DR, a big pile of books, papers and articles discarded re muh constitution and recent history, Mike Lee’s book on the C..Meh! Jigs up game over, we aren’t the… Read more »
It is very easy to understand why people cannot be dispassionate, but this is absolutely correct. The leftists are lost causes. The old time goody-good white liberals are not. It is hard to know where this particular lady falls on the spectrum, but if she is not a full blown and lost quasi-Marxist, a little tenderness might be able to bring her here. The Floyd riots simultaneously are shaming whites and making others furious. It’s a good time to open doors.
Nah, let’s have three or four years of them getting their just deserts and then we can be sympathetic.
The Question: “What did you think would happen?” should get a lot of use.
gently Nyet! Wrong. “Gently” is what got us here in the first place. Let’s fucking sugar coat it some more, right? Let me say it again for the 1000th time you want to rapidly educate someone and change their behavior immediately & permanently–> Fear & Pain. I am in agreement w/ you about not letting them burn completely but the new marching orders should be ruthless & efficient, not gentle. Full stop. Anything else is a half measure. Gently is the same strategy as IKAGO / not all nogs are violent,, etc. And let’s constantly ‘monitor’ people to see what… Read more »
I did that today. My family and I were gassing up and 2 slutty looking 20 somethings in Daddy’s Audi were French kissing in the parking lot. I gave them a face showing complete disgust and made the universal hand gesture that signifies puking. Needless to say, I got flipped the bird and a barrage of dirty names that I couldn’t hear through the closed car window. My husband called me crazy, but I told him that disgusting people need to know that they are disgusting. THOT patrol by women to women is the best!
Pat is an inspiration to us all and I can’t recall the zman saying anything at all about Pat, positive or negative. Maybe in a future podcast he can give us his take on this man. I’ve always been a huge fan of his so it would be disappointing if the zman hated him, but I can’t imagine for what.
Buchanan opened the door for many of us. I always was skeptical about blank slatism and so forth, but he was the first mainstream voice given to us. He still has some vestiges of civic nattery but mostly he has been red-pilled his entire life.
He unfailingly uses pronoun propaganda.
I’ve never seen him not use “We” or “our” when referring to the US Government or its murderous tools.
Fuck him.
Buchanan was big in red-pilling me too. It’s very disappointing to read Pat’s columns now and see him being so loyal to Trump et al when they’ve frozen him out and slandered him for so long.
I once wrote a strong defense of Pat in response to a comment. Z man posted a reply stating that when we had our country again, “Brother Pat would be on our money”.
I think this requires the art of reading people. I’m happy to give time, energy and patience to people who see the light and are willing to invest themselves in changing the paradigm. They’re usually pretty easy to pick out after 5 mins of conversation. Then there are those who whine, complain, talk about the impossibility of changing the paradigm … they see glimmers of light but prefer to wallow in self-pity, or worse, just tear down those who are taking action. This latter set – SCREW ‘EM – they’re not worth effort. Some of them even lurk on this… Read more »
Spot on. Triage is in order and each of us with limited time and resources need to figure out who we can bring into the light and those that are hopeless. Despite wishing the majority of Our people would wake up, I think we are realistically looking at saving a fraction. For the rest, “Let the dead bury the dead.”
Reading people is crucial at all times; in these times it is absolute. I would agree that 5 minutes is about enough time. If White people are not awake now do they ever become awake is the question I guess. Living in CA I read the LA Times to see when local zoning will be outlawed as racist. It is painful to read this paper, absolutely painful. Check out the lead story today to see if you think there are any more White people to red pill. I am sure that these stories are stories precisely to hasten the White… Read more »
Amen, Capt. Our people, historically we’ve been very, very accommodating, are confusing Discernment with Judgemental.
We must check every single response to current events and no longer operate out of conditioning. There can be grace and firmness. Veiled threats must now taken at full value of the evil they intend. Because they intend evil.
Amen Brother something insidious about people supposedly on our side not wanting the best for our people even if they can’t do it at this point in their life…
I’ll not waste time with the old ones. Little white pill: One of my sons friends (a national merit scholar) followed me out on the porch to smoke. Him “heard you listen to nazi podcasts” Me “nah aww they aren’t really nazi’s, well, except for Lampretch” guy was taking notes and smoking a cigarrete after 10 minutes. Had to promise to take him to amren next year. Should bring a contigent to the next one. All wrestlers or lesser athletes . The temptation to larp and dress em in some sort of uniform is surprising strong.
Exile
4 years ago
It is. This is a good time for it.
Unz’s “promoted by current events” section is a good concept for bumping old relevant content.
When we’re dealing with a lot of Groyd Riot red-pillees and other newbies it’s helpful to make content the rest of us have already “graduated” from available.
Letting go of America and our old loyalties is going to be an evergreen theme for the foreseeable future and there is a lot of good past content here that would help guys “go into the White.”
My older son is one of several writers and monitors at a Facebook group (yes, I know, and I’ve never been there, but he insists they take several security measures). Anyhow, one thing they’ve instituted is the concept that newbies, before commenting, have to read various earlier essays and assimilate that information. Whereas everywhere else (a bit less so but still not entirely absent here at Zman) you have newbies presenting basic racial or social or demographic concepts as if they’re presenting an amazing new idea to other readers. Even worse, you have newbies challenging basic accepted biological and sociological… Read more »
3g – this is a universal thing on DR websites. There’s a constant pipeline of guys and the news ones are always bringing up the same stuff we’ve already hashed out. I don’t like to copypaste the same stuff so I think in the past week I’ve typed a dozen variations of the same style response on different sites to the same topics like: “Christians are Jewed – we must all be pagans or atheists; we need/don’t need women in our movement; can’t we talk about Jews less/more; what do you think of Tucker; Trump’s a cuck/4D chess” and of… Read more »
Frip – First, I will answer your question : I Know A Good One (i.e. a non-White who doesn’t fit the pattern or appears to act Whiter than his peers). Always used by cucks as an example of why environment/character matter more and to deny that genetics shape culture. Second, with all due respect – please show some initiative and look things up! I started knowing nothing but followed my nose, checked out any links people suggested, read and thought and learned. Did the same thing with my genealogy habit – dozens of different sites I learned to use. If… Read more »
Before the manifesto, can we start with a list of acronyms?
That’d be a starting place to then roll out the concepts.
Nick
4 years ago
Yes you are correct blacks were not treated fairly in the mid 20th century. But they were treated justly. Fairness is a feminine thing, that requires every one be treated equally. Justice is a masculine thing, it requires people be given what they are due. Blacks were due no respect, no rights and no citizenship based on their primitive natures, low IQ and lack of civilization. This good judgement on the part of our male ancestors is being proved daily in the streets now.
I see a lot of white looking female rioters. Protesting about how unfair the system is. I also see a lot of blacks committing actual violence. Both of these observations prove my point. Our male ancestors were MUCH smarter, stronger and more moral then we are
“Our male ancestors were MUCH smarter, stronger and more moral then we are.”
I think not. Take one of them from the past and feed him a literal lifetime of bad food and a figurative lifetime of bad ideas and you’d get the same product.
These are transitory conditions. We are the children of Our race, and within us lies their greatness. We just need to free ourselves from these modern shackles and harness that inheritance.
The upper middle class white wannabe communist revolutionaries are expendable, brainwashed pawns who return from a night of arson to their lily white neighborhoods.
This a pseudo-revolution. The Cloud People at the top are grabbing more power and consolidating their grip over urban areas. Hilariously, the real communists are appalled, party because this is race- rather than class-based, and mostly because they, too, tend to be white.
Race has replaced class in the American iteration of communism because poor people want to become rich, even if that is becoming increasingly difficult, if not now only anecdotal. One cannot change one’s race.
Amen. A critical aspect of Justice is Right Reasoning. In order to act with justice you must recognize the true nature of the thing. Viewing a bleg as a dark white person does not acknowledge who they are fundamentally.
Yves Vannes
Member
4 years ago
I went back and read the comments from the original post back in Feb 2019. This was a few months after the 2018 election loss and post election theft of a number of seats. Zero R resistance. So anyone who hadn’t yet given up on getting back to the rule of law now had a new black pill rammed down their gullet. Many commenters were in favor of setting up benevolent associations around ethnic identities, interests that cater to whites, etc. Easy targets with easily seized assets by Gov, NGOs and the Roberta Kaplan’s of the world. Any form of pursuing separation or group interests… Read more »
“They know the old rules are dead but they don’t know what else to do…Most whites still on the Trump/conservative train are there out of desperation.” You want a drowning person to release his last twig in order to grasp a “rope” not in evidence? We’ve spoken of this recently. That is, the lack of directional behaviors that folks can undertake with the hope of improving their lot—if not for them, for other future Whites. About all that one was left with after the discussion was any number of suggestions, most situationally specific, none a slam dunk. So if you… Read more »
There’s no rope without organization, so organize something, anything. No need for a manifesto or ‘getting first principles right lol”. Our problem, our only real problem is were atomized…we are anything but alone. Now build locally, or at least personally – none of us here should meet up, to big a risk for too little return. The enemy’s chief asset however is they’ve denied us leadership at every level, what Stalin did with bullets and Mao with the Cultural revolution they’ve done with the schools. That doesn’t mean we need to remain leaderless, but organize from ground up – anything,… Read more »
You can see this in how normie conservatives view a crisis: they either rationalize bad things as good (B&N going under in favor of a book burning monopoly, Amazon) or they explain it away in terms of old, irrelevant economic dogma as if it were still 1980 — socialism, communism! Example 1: Mike Pence and Donald Trump spent the day praising MLK jr. Ugh. Yet another call for whites to delegitimize themselves with self-hate (that’s what this is, don’t kid yourself). Hey, morons. That only works when 1) we’re prosperous 2) we’re the overwhelming majority of the population 3) have… Read more »
Your second example touches on something I’ve noticed in Chinese-backed films like The Meg - there is a surprisingly strong undercurrent of strong, traditional values – respect for one’s elders, trust in family, women and men are different, and the negro is nothing more than a comedy sidekick.
I think this stood out to me expressly because so much mass media is pozzed to death.
There’s a learned passivity that we see in trying to persuade people to take the first tentative steps toward IRL community-building, much less activism. Getting people to re-engage their normal survival instincts is harder than it should be. There seems to be a barrier to seeing what’s happening as fully “real.” Blame gaslighting, screens, the outright terror tactics being deployed, or American modernity itself, but whatever it is, people are over-reacting to theoretical or wholly unlikely threats while wolves are howling at the door. There seems to be a sense of waiting for some institutional response to finally kick in… Read more »
There seems to be a sense of waiting for some institutional response to finally kick in and make this all stop.
I think a Trump loss will implode this hope in enough people that our thing will begin to gain a lot more traction.
Once the Great White Hope is sent packing and our people understand that they have been disenfranchised whites will have 3 choices:
Become a palace eunuch
Self lobotomize consuming product
Go sub-rosa and rebel
Unfortunately there will probably be a 4th group: those hyper-sensitive canaries-in-a-coalmine who will flame out publicly…causing problem for the rest of us.
“Unfortunately there will probably be a 4th group: those hyper-sensitive canaries-in-a-coalmine who will flame out publicly…causing problem for the rest of us” My opinion: The best way to prevent that is to give them something tangible to work for and something positive to look forward to — namely, a way to punish our enemies without resorting to mindless, nihilistic violence. An independence movement could be exactly that if presented correctly. If our side thinks it’s working towards something that resolves these issues — something tangible and practical even if difficult — then you will see fewer public “flameouts”. Such flameouts… Read more »
I easily can see an opposite reaction if Trump is re-elected. During his presidency, some of the more squalid elements of the State have reacted viciously and dropped their masks. How many less people now trust the IC, FBI and the military, for example? If Biden wins, there would a return to fatal incrementalism. “Folks, it’s just the assault weapons…we will follow the advice of the reparations commission…the troops I have deployed to the Ukraine today will be advisors…” Demoralization, as you point out, may be better. I don’t know. I am fully onboard with accelerationism lately. I’m not certain… Read more »
One thing our side cannot offer those canaries is HOPE or a way out because we have none.
Our strategy is to simply do nothing which inspires no one. In fact it’s the same strategy of the GOP and cucks. so of course some guys are going out in a blaze of glory so to speak.
Then team DR elite
DR types are essential tone deaf spergys eho don’t get young white men.
We’ve constantly responded to RW’s despair pilling BS. He has no more strategy than the other black-pill merchants that have infested this blog in the last year or so.
Those of us with strategies that aren’t fed-posting nonsense are apparently upsetting both bad operators and malcontent cranks alike – points in our favor.
It’s “real” enough. Evidence is white flight. There are enough people in these “flocks” who agree with us completely, but that these ideas are not as well articulated in their minds. But their instincts and gut reactions are the same as ours. For example, the school I went to was in the south and was literally built over the summer after legalized integration of the schools. So some wealthy townspeople pooled their resources together and built a school that was up and running by the next school year. Given the nature of the movement today, an academic response may be… Read more »
Please, no. White flight has been a thing for at least 70 years, and it hasn’t solved anything. Eventually there will be another Obama mandating ‘affordable housing’ next to your subdivision for equality’s sake. Then your kids will pull up stakes and some other erstwhile rural community will get run over.
Tangentially, I wonder if the whole losing-the-country thing is a result of having become a commercial people. Grow up one place, get educated somewhere else, establish a career over here, raise a family over there. It’s not hard to take something from people who don’t really possess it. Sure there’s the risk of getting destroyed by holding the line but nobody ever built or kept a community by routing. Arguably you can preserve a culture, but I think your people would end up like Jews or Gypsies are today. We’re stuck in a pattern, facing the same demographic problems, coming… Read more »
Painter there is a difference between white flight and building Communities and I’ve never said (and you can go back to my post when I first advocated for that) that you had to move somewhere else…I said build Communities where you are at if there is enough like-minded around you to do so and if there is not move to somewhere there is and do it there…
I get it and I’m honestly conflicted about the issue. I’m in the position of living where my family has lived for centuries now, with a distinct culture, and since before I was born we’ve (the culture, people) been under heavy pressure from white flight and refugee resettlement, not to mention everything that goes with climbing the economic ladder. So I’ve had a front row seat to see how the process plays out, and all I can say is the rot follows. I think the rot follows because the people who come bring that way of life with them. The… Read more »
Anyway I don’t see the difference these days. There are towns where I live founded as religious enclaves in the 18th century. That’s building community.
Everything built today is called American Tradition or Farm Estates or some such garbage. Pure marketing geared towards people looking for peace and sanity. They’re commodifying my home and my culture.
Maybe there are people building real communities these days out in the backwoods or something, but I figure I’d hear about them. Branch Davidians, for example. They’d call it a cult 🙂
Townships rarely fight those battles because they don’t have the money. I’d guess that’s why there aren’t so many claims. As for me I’m doing what I can in the real world to hold territory instead of plotting my escape on the internet. As is my family, my community, my county. As has been going on for decades here. Farmland preservation, zoning ordinances, talking to neighbors, showing up at township meetings, etc. Granted, there are cultural advantages here. People really don’t like change and are highly suspicious of outsiders. Also they tend to keep family land in the family. But… Read more »
For those not quite there yet, dig into the material on this site like today’s retro-podcast, particularly the stuff from the last two years.
And UNPLUG Mainstream EVERYTHING. Consuming the right information, from our people, works better when you shut off the propaganda.
Like breathing clean air, it takes a while to taste it, but once you do, you’ll never be the same.
SixxSigma
4 years ago
Anyone here with bluepilled spouses, particularly wives? I got into a huge fight with the wife last night regarding the last month or so of the new normal in which we now find ourselves. She grew up in a lily-white New England village and then attended a lily-white liberal arts college in the same region. She’s absolutely convinced that blacks are largely “good, hard-working” people being wrongfully assaulted by racists and klansmen. She has never been to the wrong side of town, so the burden falls upon me to keep her far away from it. Fellow dissidents, we will not… Read more »
When a white person expresses anti racist views, pro immigration, pro black, it means she (usually a she) doesn’t have to live around them. It’s a way to tell others she’s wealthy and, I sense, there is a little bit of a thrill in rubbing lesser whites’ noses in it.
Put another way and more importantly, no one is going to mistake her for being working class and holding those views
That’s a big part of it. White women in my area also seem to really emphasize the Southern aspect to all of this. The Karens really hate Southerners, and I really believe that they think that blacks are only talking about working-class Whties and, particularly, Southern working-class Whites.
They really have no clue that blacks and super woke Whites hate them too.
There are many reasons for southerners to hate those who hate us.
I know I would like to see every non-southern Karen in the world dead along with the POC as both hate my guts for things that I had no responsibility for. Most don’t even know who my ancestors were, just that I am a “white boy”.
When the first civil war comes (that other thing was the war of northern aggression); there will be a ton of whites that need to be destroyed for the good of the race.
Not destroyed, but exiled to the nonwhite fiefdoms in our neo-Ottoman millets- I maintain this is Nature’s way of dispersing White genes to the broader population.
Slave tutors spread Hellenic culture, uplifting the Mediterranean and then Semitic world, we are asked to do the same.
White Southerners had better get ready. My bet is the first officially sanctioned and overt anti-white oppression will be aimed at them. Know who the Karens are. Know which Yankee refugees are reliable and which are not. Know which locals are Quislings. Separate from the areas of your states where the handwriting is on the wall to the extent you can. The states most likely to be in the crosshairs are those where the Cloud People already have the upper hand: Virginia and increasingly North Carolina and Georgia. It may take the form of taxation aimed at natives as a… Read more »
Sixx, perhaps you’ve protected her too much? I know my own ‘transition’ many decades ago occurred when I finally lived abroad and learned to understand, both intellectually and, more importantly, in my gut, what tribalism and nationalism truly meant. There are enough stories of black atrocities, of black adoptees killing their White ‘saviors,’ for you to send her one daily for years. Have her read a black online site where they openly discuss their hatred for all Whites. Force her to face reality.
Perhaps you are correct. I don’t think you realize how much you, and Whitney, Range and Carrie and the other gals are outliers here. Y’all’s input here has been a huge white pill for me, and you are a credit to your sex. Wish there were more of you. However, having said that, I think the best advice for most men with these issues is to reign in the nuttier impulses of their wives, clearly define roles, and make the focus of their relationship love and not the madness of the world.
Witness the white women falling over themselves to actively assist BLM. They will get here soon enough, though, because they also are actively hated. They try to ignore it and mostly do but as it intensifies they will have to deal with reality.
Yeah, I caught my daughter a bit off guard the other day. The family was talking about the “Karen” meme. What’s funny is that my wife doesn’t really get that it’s anti-White.
Anyway, I mentioned to my daughter that there’s a name for her too. I said Karen is for middle-aged White women and Becky is name for young White women. She didn’t know that. I just said, “Yeah, they make fun of you, too. You guys don’t get a pass.”
I’m with you. My wife has always been on the liberal side politically (though lives her life conservatively) but she was more race aware in her younger days. Kind of an old-school Democrat in a lot of ways. Over time as we’ve lived in an upper-middle class white area, she’s lost a lot of that race awareness and the endless propaganda is working its magic. In her defensive, she married a marginally race aware but mostly color-blind cuckservative, so we weren’t that far apart when we met. I’ve changed a lot more than she has. Corona and the Floyd riots/White… Read more »
However, it also emphasizes that we have to keep our boot down in any potential community, as apparently many whites have a propensity to go anti-white in comfortable situations. You might make a new ethnostate but 20 years later the Karens come back saying “let them in!”.
I don’t know how exactly, but it would have to be unapologetically white, no questions asked, no dissent tolerated, and women would likely not have the right to vote.
Absolutely. There’s one rule above all other rules. It is the only rule.
This community is for our people: Whites.
(Obviously, “White” can be sliced and diced a million ways and probably will be, but once you decide who your tribe is genetically, openly state This is the White state. Israel shows us the way. Israel is the Jewish state.)
Her views can be ranging and adrift of reality because you, and men like you and me in the past have carved out a safe reality for her to live in. Her statements are the ramblings of a child who has forgoten that there are very large wolves beyond the wall. If you don’t acknowledge her mouth noises on the subject she’ll understand the tacit disapproval and will get bored and move on. I used to relish winning endless arguments with logic. Yay me.
Agreed. And to be honest, we very rarely fight about this stuff. She knows my views, and I know hers. I also know that she’ll never want to actually do anything in our lives that matches her views. She’s actually a very good person, and, sadly, that goodness is being used against. Everything in our society says that for a White to be a good person, that White should accept White racism. But this is why I talk constantly about Karens and liberal Whites getting to feed off our social capital. I see it in my own life every day.… Read more »
I’m sure she is a good person. So is Mrs. P. And no, our vigilance and outrage is annoying foolishness to them. Until reality, God forbid, asserts itself. I’d rather ignominious tisking from our wives than a real dose of that for them. Mrs. P and I watch Walking Dead (I know, pozzed and dumb, but I like my TV mindless when I do indulge). There was an episode where a character says his father forced him to listen to the news, even as a small child… to every horrible detail… because it was a man’s responsibility to face the… Read more »
“The most annoying part for me is that I live by my beliefs. She doesn’t. She would never want to live around blacks and didn’t like them when she worked. She’s very organized and definitely a rule follower, everything that blacks aren’t.”
Ohmigosh, my ‘brother’s’ wife to a T.
Up at 4 a.m. on the dot. Everything just so-and-so. I never thought the Two Minutes Hate could actually be a real thing until I saw it in action.
After screaming, “Death to Dictator Trump!!”, she’ll then ask sweetly if you’d like a slice of strawberry cheesecake.
SixxSigma: Just shared a mention of your issue with my husband. His instant, two word response was “Divorce her.” Hah! Seriously, I realize this is painful and a lot of you guys are dealing with this, but I can’t comprehend sharing a home and family and future with someone who does not share my world view. Sure, I bitch about my husband’s quirks – everyone has them and everyone complains to one extent or another – but never his character. We agree utterly on the big questions, and respect each other. Cannot imagine a marriage any other way.
It ain’t easy. I think that for a lot of us, this issues just didn’t come up much when we younger. The world didn’t hate us (quite as much) back then. Also, as many women get more secure financially and are safely set in a White area, they move to gaining social acceptance. It’s natural. For us guys, it’s tough. In my case, my wife is a wonderful person – outside of these beliefs, which she keeps to herself unless something forces the discussion. Also, I’m the one whose views have changed the most. Is that her fault? But, yeah,… Read more »
I was lucky in that my wife has to worry constantly about our neighborhood falling to the surrounding hood. So, that’s what you should do, move to some less expensive housing in a marginal, but not completely shot, area.
Sixxsigma, Yes. It was hard for me to swallow the knowledge that most women are children. All I can recommend is that you keep in the back of your mind that your wife is a child, with a privileged child’s rosey view of the world and to make her open her eyes to brutal reality is probably not only doomed to failure, but unnecessarily cruel. Remind yourself that this child is your beloved child and be as tender as you can with that knowledge. I’ve brought Mrs. P as far along as her constitution can bear. We agree to not… Read more »
Penitent Man – Your comment is beautiful, but also terribly sad. For all his foibles, my husband is my ‘soul mate,’ and I depend upon that anchor. We did expose our sons to the world’s ugliness – albeit verbally and gradually – and as you wisely note, most women cannot handle even that. Stable marriages and families are equally vital for our people, and men need to establish your 51% rule early on, and make it stick.
It’s not reassuring to read about men, concerned about the political opinions of their wives and other women. The agency of women is limited by their physical strength. They are not the ones that are going to be fighting and dying. They are the prize. It’s not about gold, silver, shiny stones, land or other assets; it’s the women that you can secure with those resources. Any rights, privileges or dispensations women enjoy are at the behest of men who are willing to employ violence against each other to maintain a social order. That social order is secured by men, codified… Read more »
A little blackpilled but mostly right. There is no such thing as strong women, there are only weak men. We are now experiencing the effect of weak men.
Women are social creatures, so unless you can move your wife to an area where most people agree with you, she’ll go with the flow. That’s even more difficult in the era of social media where she can check what all her white female friends are thinking. Most women don’t really have any core beliefs for the most part. Their beliefs come from the crowd. Example: I just got off Facebook this morning. I saw a status update from a white female I used to know. It was post after virtue signalling post about fighting racism. Want to know something… Read more »
One thing that I have recently come to regret is that we moved to a county that is 93% White before my daughter started elementary school. She would have gone to an elementary school that would have been about 50% black based on the district lines at the time where we were living. We didn’t want that, so we moved to the more rural county we live in now. She’s never had to deal with blacks in large numbers in the wild and, of course, she’s now as pozzed as the rest of her generation. A bit more direct experience… Read more »
b123
4 years ago
“You need to root for your own team, because nobody else will.”
This hit home. It’s so common to see right wingers say “Asians hate blax too!” “Look at the Mexicans keeping their areas safe! Natural allies!”
It’s hard to admit that we’re all alone in this especially since we accepted all these people in on the lie that they did want to become like us, and join our nation.
Non whites are hostile to us at worst, neutral at best.
This has always been a huge problem on the putative ‘hard right.’ That damned White genetic propensity to think “Oh, ‘x’ is so nice, not like the others, he/she can join in!” And daily having to refute those same delusions (no, the Asians are not your friends, they intend to be your rulers; no, the Mestizos are not ‘almost White,’ there are thousands of years of genetic history demonstrating why) is tiresome. Basic truths are basic, but still seem to need incessant repetition and they never truly take with an unfortunately large swathe of the White population.
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Exile
4 years ago
It is heartening to see sites like Unz, VDare and Occidental Observer running pieces openly advocating for extra-systemic solutions like White Strike (the much more honest and based way of saying “going Galt”), leaving the cities to TPTB and other 5PT themes. For the older voices in Our Thing (and that’s coming from an older Xer, FWIW), I’d love to see some more radicalism and fire. What are guys like Derb waiting for? When my candle grows short, I plan to take more chances, not less. And I’m also expecting more out of Tucker if he’s for real rather than… Read more »
these guys write and think for a living. By nature they are not risk takers. Sure, they took professional risks, and they have guts in that context. But their hands are soft. that is not a condemnation of them it takes all kinds. We need them, but no denying that the dissident right is largely an intellectual movement. I remember in college it was largely a protest type movement by conservative professors and academics against PC and liberalism. I remember reading The New Criterion, and that was what it sprang from. which is why I think that Z Man is… Read more »
Tucker can do more for our side by doing his low end Red pilling than doing a Beale. If did go that route the MSM and the Left would destroy him and his family.
Same way Peterson did with his book and lecture tours. Having white men clean up their acts before doing other things, and Peterson exposing the Left as so much fakes and thugs helped us a lot.
I don’t know. Tucker is, for lack of a better term, pink-pilling hundreds of thousands nightly. Sometimes, more recently than ever, he reaches into the red-pill basket even on racial issues (you can tell how bad he wants to go there). Fox is horrible but has enormous reach. I hope he stays in place as long as possible until the Murdoch cucklings boot him.
No matter how bad things get, conservatives like Pat Buchanan keep chugging along writing articles like it’s 1990. Maybe they don’t want to get canceled or value fame and money above principle? Or maybe they are waiting for it to become socially acceptable to speak the truth? None of these excuses is honorable, in my opinion. From my point of view, the fire of which you speak is an independence movement. Jews founded Israel to escape what they claimed was oppression. Why shouldn’t we do the same? The obvious solution seems to be secession. Take a red state (or a… Read more »
White flight is about to get a serious jolt. You can already see it taking shape. But this is a different white fight, it is flight with an explicit “no minorities allowed”. In the past, no minorities was implicit. Now it is stated loud and clear. If I and others are thinking it, it’s happening. And there are going to be some well financed developers ready to exploit it. No reason a smaller less well-financed group can’t do the same and start building subdivisions or private clubs or private schools where European history and racial solidarity are front and center.… Read more »
There is a great sorting underway even now. White people are fleeing the cities and that is accelerating (is it possible that was one intention of the coordinated Floyd riots? If so, thank you!). Individual states, even some counties, are on the cusp of breaking apart. Whites increasingly refuse to serve as cannon fodder for the Empire and increasingly are locked out of the police state’s bureaucracies. Again, thanks! This from Vdare yesterday pretty well nails it: https://vdare.com/articles/the-old-america-is-dead-where-do-we-go-from-here Note: the thesis is the November election is irrelevant to what happens now and as the police state becomes more vicious the… Read more »
Spot on. The only hiccup will be when Leftie television starts the major push, “To move to Smalltown America” like it’s a Foodie (Lord that phrase irritates me) craze thing. They’ll try to make it hip and encourage eclectic types to hipsterize rural America.
They’ll be lots of good people, Our People, fleeing to rural America… the trick will be to sort out the Progs that arrive with a huge unwelcome mat and no small gestures of ill will.
Those fleeing the cities explicitly due to racial concerns won’t have much use for their former neighbors who made what happened possible, either. But, yes, the cancers need to be excised quickly.
Wadsworth, see my comment about on 20,000 communities above and a lot of what myself, Lineman, Moss and others have said here in the past, If it’s hopeless to form our own communities (it isn’t), how do you propose to ever fight? How are you in a superior position to mount an organized resistance to any of this unless you have real-life social bonds and a physical community of like-minded men? Unless and until we come together, the idea of secession is a pipe dream. You want to declare an independent state before anyone lives in it? You can’t flex… Read more »
Tucker is nightly saying things that are so close to our way of thinking that I cannot believe he still has his show. He is reaching an incredible # of people that are standing on the other shore gazing across at us with both fear and hope in their hearts. If they disappear Tucker anytime soon , the wheel will turn the 1 click past the pretense that normal is still possible .
He’s specially useful in learning how to speak normally, act greyly.
My usual mode of wild-eyed foaming at the mouth seems to turn people off, I can’t quite figure out why.
tarstarkas
4 years ago
The underlying rationale for not taxing the rich is completely backwards. The thinking goes like this… The rich are “job creators” and if we tax them they will create fewer jobs. The reality is 100% backwards from this. Back when we had a 90% tax rate we were the most productive country on the planet. As libertarian ideas took over the US we became gradually poorer and poorer. One industry after another completely vanished while the rich got richer and richer. Industries we invented are entirely gone. A combination of open borders, free trade and a new tax regime along… Read more »
Corporate promotion of BLM, antifa, and widespread anti-white hate reveals one of the more obvious reasons for taxing the ultra-rich: they have all the power and they use it for our enemies advantage; they aren’t on our side and never were. If money is power, then you defeat the powerful by taking away their money. That’s what most of this BLM / corporate stuff is really all about. The rich are scared the mob will come for their money, so they are desperately signalling they are on the mob’s side by throwing us under the bus. Louis XVI did something… Read more »
Your view of tax history is a gross oversimplification. In the first place, America was vastly different socially and legally when tax rates were 90%. Finally, nobody wants to pay 90% taxes so there were plenty of loopholes. I agree that tax systems should be fairer. But what does that mean? I say flatter the better, but others want “progressive” (brackets). In either event, the tax system will always be a poltiical football and that usually means favoritism to the wealthy and lying to everybody 😀
Look, nobody, myself included, believes that a 90% top tax bracket will magically bring back all of the things we lost. But the ONE thing we absolutely do know is that a 90% tax bracket didn’t cause us to be poor. It didn’t kill the “job creators” One thing a 90% tax bracket will do is prevent the growth of multinational corporations taking over everything. As Z says here, we have to stop thinking in the old ways. The thinking of the last 50 years has enabled 50 years of thinking getting worse by the day. Another thing that directly… Read more »
Agree that we need to overhaul economic policy. But a problem that transcends this is a deep spiritual poverty, and no government can fix that. We are not equipped as a society to discuss the morality of economics until we address foundational issues like good vs evil, right vs wrong. Try discussing MMT or tax policies with postmodern progressive Marxists … their religion is the ANTITHESIS of the dissident worldview, and the rackets and extortion are part/parcel of their faith. It’s Yankee extremism run amok, and that religion needs to be burnt to the ground (or we need partition) before… Read more »
Only a moron thinks they can determine the tax burden on corporations by looking at the tax rates. Of much greater importance are the allowable deductions, loss carry forwards, tax free zones- Puerto Rico springs to mind, foreign taxes paid etc. Most of the S&P 500 pay little (and in the case of some, negative) taxes.
Government spending should be deducted from Gross Domestic Product. It is not Production, it is entirely consumption.
I hate to use the word but it’s systemic. Whatever the day’s power currency there will always be an elite group controlling most of it. Under feudalism, there were few immensely powerful landowners. When capitalism replaced that, capitalists became to new lords. In the information age it’s the uber-nerds.
People have been trying and succeeding at bringing down the system for ages, but this only leads to the rise of different systems with different elites. It’s the human condition.
You do realize all those corporations and rich people hate our guts and doing everything to destroy us from off-shoring, importing foreign worker, etc. They pump drugs into our towns,destroy small businesses, treat white workers like crap.
Aligning with Communist China.
These people are our enemy and only fool would give them a break
RW, how is your constant black-pilling about the hopeless DR not “giving them a break?”
Ryan Malthus
4 years ago
Zman, have you got a backup of your blog and podcast? If you make a torrent for them, it can easily be shared if something happens to you or your site, and enemy action wouldn’t be able to rob us of your invaluable contributions.
Excellent suggestion. I’m no expert, but I think he could make available old information and still retain copyrights, if that is his worry. I’d like to see a downloadable archive of all his essays from the past. Why not add transcripts of audio podcasts as well? Again, copyrights shouldn’t be an issue “for non-comemrcial use only” or whatever. There are, I’m sure, many here who’d gladly volutneer to transcribe or proofread for such a project. I can understand Z’s resistance, even if for no other reason than he’s a one-man show, with a full time (?) real job, and overseeing… Read more »
How to spread torrent, when big tech has taken internet down to stop Nazis ? I predict that this will happen soon.
Whitney
Member
4 years ago
Z-man, you give people the benefit of the doubt to legislators by saying they had good intentions when they were passing the original civil rights laws and anti-Semitism laws but I think you’re wrong. For the movers and shakers of all these different movements, there were enough people around them spelling out what was going to happen, which is in fact what happened, for them to hear the truth. It doesn’t take a genius So either their intentions were bad or they were answering to someone with bad intent. I can see forgiving the plebs for their desire to feel… Read more »
Whitney – you addressed this to Z but if I may politely interject: “So either their intentions were bad or they were answering to someone with bad intent” A very good case can be made that the culprits you seek writing laws with bad intent, or answering to those with bad intent may indeed be: The Founders, Hildebrand aka Pope Gregory VII, and Jesus Christ himself. “All men are created equal” is utterly non-self evident outside of the context of Christianity. In fact outside of Christianity it’s inane, insane even. Some will say the Founders meant political rights and they’re… Read more »
Whitney if I can interject: you asked Z about bad intentions or answering to bad intended people: Civil Rights absolutely.
They never intended to stop at anything less than our extinction.
But it could never have happened outside the context of the Founders “all men are created equal”.
Yes they meant political rights, but it’s self evidently inane, even insane. Which could never have happened outside the context of Hildebrand/Gregory VII, and Christianity.
Good news: We’re post Christian.
Bad news: We’re also our true genocidal enemy.
The Blacks are a violent sideshow. Always were.
Couldn’t agree more … any thinking person had to realize what Civi Rights and Hart-Celler would lead to. Ditto for women’s suffrage and feminism. We’ll just never hear of their manifold warnings.
Maus
4 years ago
This is indeed a classic; and I found it refreshing to listen to it again. It shares hard truths. The recent collapse of reason and sanity in the face of Wuflu and St. George of the Jungle underscores that the best way forward is simply to tell people what you want without explaining the why. If they agree with you, they may be an ally with whom to build community. If they disagree, but act indifferent to you; they may be regarded as neutral. If they disagree and oppose you with threats or attacks, they are an enemy and should… Read more »
Good things are never easy Brother and that’s a chance anyone takes when they want the best for their people…
tarstarkas
4 years ago
Great show and despite it being older is quite timely. A repeat of late May early June in 10 years will be far worse. They will be going into increasingly marginalized white areas and lynching people. Most white people live in white areas and I have to think a lot of them have no idea how late in the game it is. People under 18 are majority non-white (I think it’s worse because nearly all whites get counted, but many non-whites slip through and don’t get counted) In 7 years it will be adults and children under 25. 5 years… Read more »
Yep, whites are shockingly blind. Most Torontonian whites have no idea that we’re now only 48% white… (as of 2016). They just don’t go to most non-white areas and don’t think about them. Of course, diversity is still our strength.
They don’t go to non-white areas? How is that even possible in Toronto?
Anon
4 years ago
While you’re dicking around with your tax policy, the other side is building you a prison. The main point of friction retarding the realignment of priorities in the minds of the White electorate has been an obstinate, almost maladaptive inability to let go of the primacy of materialistic concerns as the sole purpose and stake of public policy. Here in Europe, the immigration question and its dyscivilizational fallout have been on every one’s mind for at least two decades. Yet to date, it hasn’t dethroned stuff, the accruing and keeping of, as the primary electoral decision factor. Dissidents have made… Read more »
Anon- Very well said. I think my favorite line (They are like the administrator still churning out policy long after the company was adjudicated bankrupt and broken up in court.) could be applied to numerous situations. People harping on their pet issue (abortion, public prayer, marijuana, taxes, etc.) need to focus on THE issue, which is demographics. That won’t solve all our problems by a long shot, but they are all subsidiary to it. Start with White people, and we can separate/move on from there.
Frip
Member
4 years ago
state just closed all the bars again. fuck this gay earth
Apex Predator
4 years ago
Comments are jacked. No votes counted and you cannot sort by Most Voted, just FYI in case you aren’t aware.
Pretty good vacation fodder. I’d downloaded all those from Before My Time Here but hadn’t got round to listening. Well, a daily dose til the Z-Man returns from his well-earned rest, and I’ll be all caught up!
My aunt went to her grave at the age of 84 still subscribed to that old rag, National Review. I tried, but could never convince her that they were one of the ‘bad guys’. People get set in their ways and it takes a new generation to see the light.
Could someone please explain to me how James Allsup is banned from YouTube but those racists aren’t? TYT is run by a racist Turk, son of an immigrant of course, who promotes every police shooting, every innocuous incident, into a racial conflagration against whites (the Starbucks episode from a few years ago). It’s obviously racial. There are countless examples. They should be banned from the platform or Google should be deplatformed until they do it themsevles. They aren’t because Google supports TYT and their causes. And I mean that literally. YouTube has been caught in the past promoting their fundraisers.
Stop using the word racist to describe these people. When you as a white person use that word, it’s 1) ineffective and powerless against them, because only whites can be racist and 2) operating within the left’s moral framework. Being racist is not a crime or a bad thing. In fact, it’s how this nation operated for many years, and with good reason as we now know. You only further legitimize the left when you repeat that word.
It’s going to be difficult, but you need to stop thinking like a conservative and start thinking like a dissident.
“Stop using the word racist to describe these people.” They are racist against me, and I’ll continue to use the term because it applies. Using “racist” in this fashion weakens them (and their ability to use the term effectively against me) while also getting my side to think in blatantly racial terms. Eschewing the term does not make it go away any more than an ostrich can make the world disappear by sticking his head in the dirt. “1) ineffective and powerless against them, because only whites can be racist” It IS effective in getting our side to think in… Read more »
Politics is a morality play as you say, and using “racist” against TYT buys in to their morality. It strengthens them. The fundamental thing here is to ignore their morality. An effective alternative term is “anti-white”
Avoiding the word will not make it go away and “anti-white” isn’t a good substitute because normies will just associate that term with racism and “white supremacists”. I’ve heard for years from conservatives that words like “racist” will lose their meaning, but they never did. In fact, they are stronger than ever. Calling out these people as racists works because 1) “racist” already has cache & legitimacy, so the media can’t just dismiss the term 2) it pits their group against ours through implicit association 3) it associates that word with discrimination against us, which defangs it in the opposition’s… Read more »
You are both on to something. Six is correct in saying that throwing “racist” around is a powerless tool against your adversaries that will only garner laughter and heckling. Wadesworth refusing to abandon the word has some merit, if you can use it to lead receptive whites to us by getting them to realize the shoe is now on the other foot… then there is a utility to that.
That was in response to your detailing how unfair it was that YouTube censor Allsup and not TYT. It is clear to all that there is an inherent bias against us in the tech giants. Are you just being made aware of this? Asking them to hold some sort of consistent set of rules is so 2018. I understand the frustration of not being able to fight, but you chose to be surly with your own kind because of an inability to lash out at the real culprits.
Z Man said: ” The rich think White people are a pestilence and need to be eliminated.” Seems to me to be an extreme case of what Victor Davis Hanson calls “the oldest divide.” It’s simply the age old war between the people inside the walls of the city and the people on the outside. Of course now it’s a global, multi-trillion-dollar high tech juggernaut that does as it pleases. And sence we can’t beat the system, and we don’t want to join it either the only solution is to find ways to avoid being intangled in the global hegemon.… Read more »
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SixxSigma
4 years ago
It’s 5:21 my time…upvotes are not being displayed for some reason, at least on my end. Just a heads up in case anyone else mentions it.
Sorry Zman, you are flat wrong on taxes. Not about Libertarians, but you fail to accept the reality that the rich hate us. [They do]. Do you think that the Rich would EVER get taxed? Microsoft? Apple? No, opposition to taxes is a White Identity movement that appeared early. Don’t be taxed, and hand over greater and greater amounts of money to the Federal Government run by the rich who hate us (and non Whites, ditto) to help enslave us. Rather, be opposed to taxes since it gives middle class White moeny in ever greater amounts to non-Whites and the… Read more »
Jack Dobson
4 years ago
This particular podcast made me a fan of the blog. Good choice, brilliant analysis. The division into uniform 10-minute segments was a particularly good touch.
This will be our first major post-Christian war America.
Should be interesting…
Moran ya Simba
4 years ago
That was a good show. I have an old friend, Vietnam vet, karate master, classic blue collar ‘Murica civ nat patriot and very patriotic indeed. Much older than me, he has ‘moments of clarity’ but still very much the old school civ nat beliefs that America is a set of ideas more than a people. How on earth to tell a guy like him that the America he suffered and fought for in dark jungles far away, I have no idea. I feel melancholy coming over me now. Here’s to what may soon no longer be but sure as hell… Read more »
The Stand. Analysis of our weaknesses, how to turn to strengths. Think of our people and organize locally. Not online. The conditions for “Heritage Americans’ to make a stand do not exist. 1. Sufficient motivation to do something other than run, or call the police. 2. – Organizations to stand with. 3. : Legal Permission slip. The Cult of Law will die very hard, probably only at the end of a long line of bodies and tragedies. 4. : Leadership. Our leaders are either denouncing us, ignoring the problem, or are helpless cowards. We have no War leaders, with rare… Read more »
Let be productive exile. You give legal advice, let the sarge give ah small group mannerbund advice. We can both be practical in service of the common cause of our paleness. Mind you if you’re giving legal advice gay fishing club isn’t the worst cover story of these strange times. Any group of men now is better than none. I hope you know the Blacks are certainly better positioned right now in terms of ah Krieg leaders, actual fighters, morale and cohesiveness than we are ; its simple enough. They have something. We have nothing. We have nothing. No orgs… Read more »
Do not go out and join any organization with people you aren’t familiar with. The FBI and CIA use fake groups to generate lists of dissidents, doxx / arrest people, and entrap kids with fake terror plots, which only serves their interests.
We don’t have any orgs because we don’t have any institutional support. The other side does, so they are allowed groups like BLM, SPLC, and various Jewish groups. Get the institutional support and you can have the orgs. You can do that through secession.
Just get secession and we’ll have institutional support.. Any other wishes Are you disabled? Organize The fear of feds everywhere is the ultimate control mechanism. Simply do not discuss breaking the laws, or better politics at all Just get secession and we’ll get institutional support… then go for it, show us. I’m fair. But do you understand my “wishes” comment? You are saying get to desired end state and then/ only then/ organize the means to the end. Secession is an end, it requires means. I also take issue that nothing can be done without institutional support, is your arm… Read more »
Got to say, V, sounds solid. I’ve started with my little family, uprooting everything to go nomad for a bit. Scouting some states that met the small list of criteria. My radar is up for like minded fishing buddies…I like it. You or Sarge bring some fishing technique, Exile legal, Lineman infrastructure, I’ll weigh in on business and process. Let’s go.
Useful skills and crafts are a natural organizing point:
We’ll need them all.
They’re grey. fun, and non-threatening.
Nature will do the rest. Men have a million years of experience in forming hunting bands. There is a place for everyone, everyone is needed and critical.
What we need most are useful skills and crafts- such as experienced legal advice, Exile. We need that in spades, as every “activist” does one thing, and one thing only: bring it to a lawsuit.
Stan
4 years ago
I agree, one of the best shows, one which I will be sharing with MY tribe in an effort to deprogram them.
Maybe It’s Time To Let The Old Ways Die..(before we do) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgXtMXuDdw
MAH PRO LIFE…STOP ABORSHUNS …MAH COURTS..
Court says Doctors don’t need to be accepted in local hospitals [in case the aborshun goes wrong].
No loss. The mother shouldn’t make it off the table.
Nope, she shouldn’t.
Nothing to do with the court watching TV, no…
I’m not sad. I know who gets aborted. 53%.
It’s still funny. The Cult of the Laws will die hard.
A toast to the Supremes, and to eugenics applied.
Other’s holi-days come first; another I noticed was Juneteenth/Pride Month come ahead of Fourth of July. The Great Replacement.
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Ben the Layabout
4 years ago
We’ll just have to disagree about legal drugs. To quote (imperfectly) from Browne’s How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World. “Will the legalization of marijuana ruin society? Why? Alcohol hasn’t, even though it’s caused reckless drivers, addicts who steal to support their habits, broken families, and all the other problems we blame on illegal drugs.” Of course there are drugs and then there are drugs. Marijuana is relatively innocuous If you look at statistics, alcohol does far more damage to society than pot does. None of the several States that have legalized recreational use have fallen into the abyss… Read more »
I get your point but it depends on the person and how they react to drugs. Pot may be somewhat innocuous for some but it isn’t for all people. And booze is the same way. I can get plastered and never get hangovers. But some people go through withdrawals and get the shakes and vomit for a few days and it’s worse than a bad flu. Pot has some serious effects on some people. And it will get worse with all of the increased potency. I think the issue is how much of a societal sickness are we willing to… Read more »
“None of the several States that have legalized recreational use have fallen into the abyss yet.”
Open your eyes pal. Legalizing it was the abyss. As far as I’m concerned, there’s way too many dope smokin’ parasites in this country as it is.
If people had even an ounce of self-respect and self-control, there wouldn’t be any need for the law to get involved. If your grateful for your life, you don’t eat poison everyday. And no, I don’t drink or smoke tobacco.
Frip
Member
4 years ago
On the immoral coldness of the Reactionary “Take Personal Responsibility” outlook. From about the 42:45 to end of podcast. That was good. (Disagree on Z’s melodramatic slippery-slope catastrophe framing of legalized marijuana. But that’s just Z’s inner dad bursting out, so no biggy). But good 20 minutes touching on the importance of empathy through understanding the forces that put people in a jam. It’s a high psychological hurdle for certain hard-scrabble types (for anyone really) who’ve overcome tough things, to listen to someone discuss their own adversities. Their legit hardships are seen as a “sob story”. It’s said that “what… Read more »
You act like white lives haven’t been ruined for drug offenses too or DUI laws. I know a number of working class guys financially ruined from DUI fines and fees and jail. Granted, DUIs were never legal, but the process is MEANT to be punitive to working class people. Everyone has their pet theories for why it’s this way, but it is. That said, there are a ton of things that were once forbidden and illegal the became legalized. Pot isn’t the only one. Like I say, pretty much everything the mafia was thrown in jail for is now pretty… Read more »
I speak only of weed because it’s pretty harmless. To throw into the mix alcohol (you) or heroin (Z) distorts the issue. So, as for weed, it’s criminalization hurt blacks more. For a number of reasons. A few we’d surely agree on. Anyway, your response highlights the empathy topic. i.e. “Screw them. We had it just as bad.” No. no we didn’t.
An older female relative emailed me this morning with the link to the old white woman in New York just getting randomly punched by a black guy and how horrible that was and how afraid she is. She’s afraid of the world she created and I’m having a hard time having sympathy even for the old at this point. I emailed her back this Yes this is what happens when you spend several Generations inciting hate towards white people. I’ve seen this coming since I was in high school. it’s been abundantly obvious. I found it very frustrating for decades now… Read more »
Dig deeper, folks. You either already get this, or you will… Whenever I see a vid of a “yuth” wildly attacking an elderly person my first thought, my absolutely first thought, is, “Who did the victim vote for?”. If they voted Marxist, then the attack wasn’t brutal enough. I always like to see folks get what they’re begging for, good, bad, or otherwise.
Actions have consequences, or as a former President once said, elections have consequences. Without consequences, there can be no change in behavior. Unfortunately, the consequences are separated by time and space such that when they are felt, it’s to late to react, or change such behavior in order to prevent future consequences. And here we are.
We’re all doomed. However, if the Marxists – who dream of me being tortured to death in a reeducation camp – if some Marxists can go first at the hands of other Marxists,.. sure, I’ll take it
In the example above, one less Marxist enabler? …..sure, I’ll take it
What happened to the sympathy, that Z talked about? I think rudely telling her “Fuck off, you made your bed” is the wrong strategy.
If she is genuinely concerned about the world she has created, listen to those concerns, and gently increase the redpilling content. You can tell her that you predicted this for a long time.
It’s easy to be bitter but the brainwashing is strong. I was bluepilled at one point. We need sympathy for those who are drifting to our side. If they start drifting away, however, they must be cut off ruthlessly again.
Like I said. I’m having a hard time being sympathetic right now
Girlfriend…..I’m having a hard time being sympathetic also! Stupid wahmyn get beat up, and they still think they’re raaaaaacist and want to see the rest of us killed off as they view Whitey as the bad seed. These people are the brown shirts now conditioned to rat us out. The ancient muse of domesticity prompted me to clear out the book shelves. I have physical evidence of my long trek to DR, a big pile of books, papers and articles discarded re muh constitution and recent history, Mike Lee’s book on the C..Meh! Jigs up game over, we aren’t the… Read more »
“Guys are easier to work with and be friends with”, says every woman everywhere
It is very easy to understand why people cannot be dispassionate, but this is absolutely correct. The leftists are lost causes. The old time goody-good white liberals are not. It is hard to know where this particular lady falls on the spectrum, but if she is not a full blown and lost quasi-Marxist, a little tenderness might be able to bring her here. The Floyd riots simultaneously are shaming whites and making others furious. It’s a good time to open doors.
Nah, let’s have three or four years of them getting their just deserts and then we can be sympathetic.
The Question: “What did you think would happen?” should get a lot of use.
gently Nyet! Wrong. “Gently” is what got us here in the first place. Let’s fucking sugar coat it some more, right? Let me say it again for the 1000th time you want to rapidly educate someone and change their behavior immediately & permanently–> Fear & Pain. I am in agreement w/ you about not letting them burn completely but the new marching orders should be ruthless & efficient, not gentle. Full stop. Anything else is a half measure. Gently is the same strategy as IKAGO / not all nogs are violent,, etc. And let’s constantly ‘monitor’ people to see what… Read more »
Just let the women police their own. They know how.
Oops, didn’t know that Whitney was also a woman 🙂
I did that today. My family and I were gassing up and 2 slutty looking 20 somethings in Daddy’s Audi were French kissing in the parking lot. I gave them a face showing complete disgust and made the universal hand gesture that signifies puking. Needless to say, I got flipped the bird and a barrage of dirty names that I couldn’t hear through the closed car window. My husband called me crazy, but I told him that disgusting people need to know that they are disgusting. THOT patrol by women to women is the best!
Pat is an inspiration to us all and I can’t recall the zman saying anything at all about Pat, positive or negative. Maybe in a future podcast he can give us his take on this man. I’ve always been a huge fan of his so it would be disappointing if the zman hated him, but I can’t imagine for what.
Z now and then brings up Buchanan, always in a positive way.
Buchanan opened the door for many of us. I always was skeptical about blank slatism and so forth, but he was the first mainstream voice given to us. He still has some vestiges of civic nattery but mostly he has been red-pilled his entire life.
He unfailingly uses pronoun propaganda.
I’ve never seen him not use “We” or “our” when referring to the US Government or its murderous tools.
Fuck him.
Buchanan was big in red-pilling me too. It’s very disappointing to read Pat’s columns now and see him being so loyal to Trump et al when they’ve frozen him out and slandered him for so long.
Pat is over 80 and you should not expect mental flexibility from old men. Its not in most of them
I once wrote a strong defense of Pat in response to a comment. Z man posted a reply stating that when we had our country again, “Brother Pat would be on our money”.
I think this requires the art of reading people. I’m happy to give time, energy and patience to people who see the light and are willing to invest themselves in changing the paradigm. They’re usually pretty easy to pick out after 5 mins of conversation. Then there are those who whine, complain, talk about the impossibility of changing the paradigm … they see glimmers of light but prefer to wallow in self-pity, or worse, just tear down those who are taking action. This latter set – SCREW ‘EM – they’re not worth effort. Some of them even lurk on this… Read more »
Capt S,
Spot on. Triage is in order and each of us with limited time and resources need to figure out who we can bring into the light and those that are hopeless. Despite wishing the majority of Our people would wake up, I think we are realistically looking at saving a fraction. For the rest, “Let the dead bury the dead.”
Reading people is crucial at all times; in these times it is absolute. I would agree that 5 minutes is about enough time. If White people are not awake now do they ever become awake is the question I guess. Living in CA I read the LA Times to see when local zoning will be outlawed as racist. It is painful to read this paper, absolutely painful. Check out the lead story today to see if you think there are any more White people to red pill. I am sure that these stories are stories precisely to hasten the White… Read more »
Amen, Capt. Our people, historically we’ve been very, very accommodating, are confusing Discernment with Judgemental.
We must check every single response to current events and no longer operate out of conditioning. There can be grace and firmness. Veiled threats must now taken at full value of the evil they intend. Because they intend evil.
Amen Brother something insidious about people supposedly on our side not wanting the best for our people even if they can’t do it at this point in their life…
I’ll not waste time with the old ones. Little white pill: One of my sons friends (a national merit scholar) followed me out on the porch to smoke. Him “heard you listen to nazi podcasts” Me “nah aww they aren’t really nazi’s, well, except for Lampretch” guy was taking notes and smoking a cigarrete after 10 minutes. Had to promise to take him to amren next year. Should bring a contigent to the next one. All wrestlers or lesser athletes . The temptation to larp and dress em in some sort of uniform is surprising strong.
It is. This is a good time for it.
Unz’s “promoted by current events” section is a good concept for bumping old relevant content.
When we’re dealing with a lot of Groyd Riot red-pillees and other newbies it’s helpful to make content the rest of us have already “graduated” from available.
Letting go of America and our old loyalties is going to be an evergreen theme for the foreseeable future and there is a lot of good past content here that would help guys “go into the White.”
Our brothers in this thing are our country now.
My older son is one of several writers and monitors at a Facebook group (yes, I know, and I’ve never been there, but he insists they take several security measures). Anyhow, one thing they’ve instituted is the concept that newbies, before commenting, have to read various earlier essays and assimilate that information. Whereas everywhere else (a bit less so but still not entirely absent here at Zman) you have newbies presenting basic racial or social or demographic concepts as if they’re presenting an amazing new idea to other readers. Even worse, you have newbies challenging basic accepted biological and sociological… Read more »
3g – this is a universal thing on DR websites. There’s a constant pipeline of guys and the news ones are always bringing up the same stuff we’ve already hashed out. I don’t like to copypaste the same stuff so I think in the past week I’ve typed a dozen variations of the same style response on different sites to the same topics like: “Christians are Jewed – we must all be pagans or atheists; we need/don’t need women in our movement; can’t we talk about Jews less/more; what do you think of Tucker; Trump’s a cuck/4D chess” and of… Read more »
Bald freckly Southern men are sexy…ok, I’ll do it.
I second that all in favor say aye
What does IKAGO mean?
Frip – First, I will answer your question : I Know A Good One (i.e. a non-White who doesn’t fit the pattern or appears to act Whiter than his peers). Always used by cucks as an example of why environment/character matter more and to deny that genetics shape culture. Second, with all due respect – please show some initiative and look things up! I started knowing nothing but followed my nose, checked out any links people suggested, read and thought and learned. Did the same thing with my genealogy habit – dozens of different sites I learned to use. If… Read more »
Before the manifesto, can we start with a list of acronyms?
That’d be a starting place to then roll out the concepts.
Yes you are correct blacks were not treated fairly in the mid 20th century. But they were treated justly. Fairness is a feminine thing, that requires every one be treated equally. Justice is a masculine thing, it requires people be given what they are due. Blacks were due no respect, no rights and no citizenship based on their primitive natures, low IQ and lack of civilization. This good judgement on the part of our male ancestors is being proved daily in the streets now.
I would just point out that most of the rioters are white anarchists and Marxist trouble makers.
I see a lot of white looking female rioters. Protesting about how unfair the system is. I also see a lot of blacks committing actual violence. Both of these observations prove my point. Our male ancestors were MUCH smarter, stronger and more moral then we are
“Our male ancestors were MUCH smarter, stronger and more moral then we are.”
I think not. Take one of them from the past and feed him a literal lifetime of bad food and a figurative lifetime of bad ideas and you’d get the same product.
These are transitory conditions. We are the children of Our race, and within us lies their greatness. We just need to free ourselves from these modern shackles and harness that inheritance.
Never doubt what lies within you, Nick.
The upper middle class white wannabe communist revolutionaries are expendable, brainwashed pawns who return from a night of arson to their lily white neighborhoods.
This a pseudo-revolution. The Cloud People at the top are grabbing more power and consolidating their grip over urban areas. Hilariously, the real communists are appalled, party because this is race- rather than class-based, and mostly because they, too, tend to be white.
Race has replaced class in the American iteration of communism because poor people want to become rich, even if that is becoming increasingly difficult, if not now only anecdotal. One cannot change one’s race.
Wonderful use of Plato’s definition of Justice.
Hate twitter:
Who knew certain people were being judged on the content of their character all along
Amen. A critical aspect of Justice is Right Reasoning. In order to act with justice you must recognize the true nature of the thing. Viewing a bleg as a dark white person does not acknowledge who they are fundamentally.
I went back and read the comments from the original post back in Feb 2019. This was a few months after the 2018 election loss and post election theft of a number of seats. Zero R resistance. So anyone who hadn’t yet given up on getting back to the rule of law now had a new black pill rammed down their gullet. Many commenters were in favor of setting up benevolent associations around ethnic identities, interests that cater to whites, etc. Easy targets with easily seized assets by Gov, NGOs and the Roberta Kaplan’s of the world. Any form of pursuing separation or group interests… Read more »
“They know the old rules are dead but they don’t know what else to do…Most whites still on the Trump/conservative train are there out of desperation.” You want a drowning person to release his last twig in order to grasp a “rope” not in evidence? We’ve spoken of this recently. That is, the lack of directional behaviors that folks can undertake with the hope of improving their lot—if not for them, for other future Whites. About all that one was left with after the discussion was any number of suggestions, most situationally specific, none a slam dunk. So if you… Read more »
Our enemies are building that bridge for us. Let’s not interfere and let’s make sure we have something for them when they get here.
There’s no rope without organization, so organize something, anything. No need for a manifesto or ‘getting first principles right lol”. Our problem, our only real problem is were atomized…we are anything but alone. Now build locally, or at least personally – none of us here should meet up, to big a risk for too little return. The enemy’s chief asset however is they’ve denied us leadership at every level, what Stalin did with bullets and Mao with the Cultural revolution they’ve done with the schools. That doesn’t mean we need to remain leaderless, but organize from ground up – anything,… Read more »
You can see this in how normie conservatives view a crisis: they either rationalize bad things as good (B&N going under in favor of a book burning monopoly, Amazon) or they explain it away in terms of old, irrelevant economic dogma as if it were still 1980 — socialism, communism! Example 1: Mike Pence and Donald Trump spent the day praising MLK jr. Ugh. Yet another call for whites to delegitimize themselves with self-hate (that’s what this is, don’t kid yourself). Hey, morons. That only works when 1) we’re prosperous 2) we’re the overwhelming majority of the population 3) have… Read more »
We don’t need everyone just enough. And as you’ve stated…we don’t want everyone.
Your second example touches on something I’ve noticed in Chinese-backed films like The Meg - there is a surprisingly strong undercurrent of strong, traditional values – respect for one’s elders, trust in family, women and men are different, and the negro is nothing more than a comedy sidekick.
I think this stood out to me expressly because so much mass media is pozzed to death.
There’s a learned passivity that we see in trying to persuade people to take the first tentative steps toward IRL community-building, much less activism. Getting people to re-engage their normal survival instincts is harder than it should be. There seems to be a barrier to seeing what’s happening as fully “real.” Blame gaslighting, screens, the outright terror tactics being deployed, or American modernity itself, but whatever it is, people are over-reacting to theoretical or wholly unlikely threats while wolves are howling at the door. There seems to be a sense of waiting for some institutional response to finally kick in… Read more »
There seems to be a sense of waiting for some institutional response to finally kick in and make this all stop.
I think a Trump loss will implode this hope in enough people that our thing will begin to gain a lot more traction.
Once the Great White Hope is sent packing and our people understand that they have been disenfranchised whites will have 3 choices:
Become a palace eunuch
Self lobotomize consuming product
Go sub-rosa and rebel
Unfortunately there will probably be a 4th group: those hyper-sensitive canaries-in-a-coalmine who will flame out publicly…causing problem for the rest of us.
“Unfortunately there will probably be a 4th group: those hyper-sensitive canaries-in-a-coalmine who will flame out publicly…causing problem for the rest of us” My opinion: The best way to prevent that is to give them something tangible to work for and something positive to look forward to — namely, a way to punish our enemies without resorting to mindless, nihilistic violence. An independence movement could be exactly that if presented correctly. If our side thinks it’s working towards something that resolves these issues — something tangible and practical even if difficult — then you will see fewer public “flameouts”. Such flameouts… Read more »
I easily can see an opposite reaction if Trump is re-elected. During his presidency, some of the more squalid elements of the State have reacted viciously and dropped their masks. How many less people now trust the IC, FBI and the military, for example? If Biden wins, there would a return to fatal incrementalism. “Folks, it’s just the assault weapons…we will follow the advice of the reparations commission…the troops I have deployed to the Ukraine today will be advisors…” Demoralization, as you point out, may be better. I don’t know. I am fully onboard with accelerationism lately. I’m not certain… Read more »
Yves,
Just read yours after I posted. If the level of crazy maintains after Trumo loses then yes, you are probably right.
One thing our side cannot offer those canaries is HOPE or a way out because we have none.
Our strategy is to simply do nothing which inspires no one. In fact it’s the same strategy of the GOP and cucks. so of course some guys are going out in a blaze of glory so to speak.
Then team DR elite
DR types are essential tone deaf spergys eho don’t get young white men.
We’ve constantly responded to RW’s despair pilling BS. He has no more strategy than the other black-pill merchants that have infested this blog in the last year or so.
Those of us with strategies that aren’t fed-posting nonsense are apparently upsetting both bad operators and malcontent cranks alike – points in our favor.
It’s “real” enough. Evidence is white flight. There are enough people in these “flocks” who agree with us completely, but that these ideas are not as well articulated in their minds. But their instincts and gut reactions are the same as ours. For example, the school I went to was in the south and was literally built over the summer after legalized integration of the schools. So some wealthy townspeople pooled their resources together and built a school that was up and running by the next school year. Given the nature of the movement today, an academic response may be… Read more »
Please, no. White flight has been a thing for at least 70 years, and it hasn’t solved anything. Eventually there will be another Obama mandating ‘affordable housing’ next to your subdivision for equality’s sake. Then your kids will pull up stakes and some other erstwhile rural community will get run over.
Tangentially, I wonder if the whole losing-the-country thing is a result of having become a commercial people. Grow up one place, get educated somewhere else, establish a career over here, raise a family over there. It’s not hard to take something from people who don’t really possess it. Sure there’s the risk of getting destroyed by holding the line but nobody ever built or kept a community by routing. Arguably you can preserve a culture, but I think your people would end up like Jews or Gypsies are today. We’re stuck in a pattern, facing the same demographic problems, coming… Read more »
Painter there is a difference between white flight and building Communities and I’ve never said (and you can go back to my post when I first advocated for that) that you had to move somewhere else…I said build Communities where you are at if there is enough like-minded around you to do so and if there is not move to somewhere there is and do it there…
I get it and I’m honestly conflicted about the issue. I’m in the position of living where my family has lived for centuries now, with a distinct culture, and since before I was born we’ve (the culture, people) been under heavy pressure from white flight and refugee resettlement, not to mention everything that goes with climbing the economic ladder. So I’ve had a front row seat to see how the process plays out, and all I can say is the rot follows. I think the rot follows because the people who come bring that way of life with them. The… Read more »
Anyway I don’t see the difference these days. There are towns where I live founded as religious enclaves in the 18th century. That’s building community.
Everything built today is called American Tradition or Farm Estates or some such garbage. Pure marketing geared towards people looking for peace and sanity. They’re commodifying my home and my culture.
Maybe there are people building real communities these days out in the backwoods or something, but I figure I’d hear about them. Branch Davidians, for example. They’d call it a cult 🙂
Painter, how many times do we need to say this here – 20,000 small towns in America can’t be patrolled like you imagine.
20,000 employment and 7000 housing discrimination claims in California in a year out of 40+ million Californians.
Do the math – and CA has the most active “civil rights” apparatus in America.
A lot of guys here seem hell-bent on remaining atomized and sheltering in place in some shithole or quiet shitlib suburb and watching Whites submit.
What is your better alternative?
Townships rarely fight those battles because they don’t have the money. I’d guess that’s why there aren’t so many claims. As for me I’m doing what I can in the real world to hold territory instead of plotting my escape on the internet. As is my family, my community, my county. As has been going on for decades here. Farmland preservation, zoning ordinances, talking to neighbors, showing up at township meetings, etc. Granted, there are cultural advantages here. People really don’t like change and are highly suspicious of outsiders. Also they tend to keep family land in the family. But… Read more »
And UNPLUG Mainstream EVERYTHING. Consuming the right information, from our people, works better when you shut off the propaganda.
Like breathing clean air, it takes a while to taste it, but once you do, you’ll never be the same.
Anyone here with bluepilled spouses, particularly wives? I got into a huge fight with the wife last night regarding the last month or so of the new normal in which we now find ourselves. She grew up in a lily-white New England village and then attended a lily-white liberal arts college in the same region. She’s absolutely convinced that blacks are largely “good, hard-working” people being wrongfully assaulted by racists and klansmen. She has never been to the wrong side of town, so the burden falls upon me to keep her far away from it. Fellow dissidents, we will not… Read more »
status marker
When a white person expresses anti racist views, pro immigration, pro black, it means she (usually a she) doesn’t have to live around them. It’s a way to tell others she’s wealthy and, I sense, there is a little bit of a thrill in rubbing lesser whites’ noses in it.
Put another way and more importantly, no one is going to mistake her for being working class and holding those views
That’s a big part of it. White women in my area also seem to really emphasize the Southern aspect to all of this. The Karens really hate Southerners, and I really believe that they think that blacks are only talking about working-class Whties and, particularly, Southern working-class Whites.
They really have no clue that blacks and super woke Whites hate them too.
Sounds like you live in a southern state taken over by Yankees
I know of what you speak very well.
Bingo. Northern Virginia.
There are many reasons for southerners to hate those who hate us.
I know I would like to see every non-southern Karen in the world dead along with the POC as both hate my guts for things that I had no responsibility for. Most don’t even know who my ancestors were, just that I am a “white boy”.
When the first civil war comes (that other thing was the war of northern aggression); there will be a ton of whites that need to be destroyed for the good of the race.
Not destroyed, but exiled to the nonwhite fiefdoms in our neo-Ottoman millets- I maintain this is Nature’s way of dispersing White genes to the broader population.
Slave tutors spread Hellenic culture, uplifting the Mediterranean and then Semitic world, we are asked to do the same.
White Southerners had better get ready. My bet is the first officially sanctioned and overt anti-white oppression will be aimed at them. Know who the Karens are. Know which Yankee refugees are reliable and which are not. Know which locals are Quislings. Separate from the areas of your states where the handwriting is on the wall to the extent you can. The states most likely to be in the crosshairs are those where the Cloud People already have the upper hand: Virginia and increasingly North Carolina and Georgia. It may take the form of taxation aimed at natives as a… Read more »
A#1, Falcone, this is all about status signaling.
Either that or the bitchiness, backbiting, and gossip means the universe is only a simulation of a gay soap opera.
Sixx, perhaps you’ve protected her too much? I know my own ‘transition’ many decades ago occurred when I finally lived abroad and learned to understand, both intellectually and, more importantly, in my gut, what tribalism and nationalism truly meant. There are enough stories of black atrocities, of black adoptees killing their White ‘saviors,’ for you to send her one daily for years. Have her read a black online site where they openly discuss their hatred for all Whites. Force her to face reality.
3g4me,
Perhaps you are correct. I don’t think you realize how much you, and Whitney, Range and Carrie and the other gals are outliers here. Y’all’s input here has been a huge white pill for me, and you are a credit to your sex. Wish there were more of you. However, having said that, I think the best advice for most men with these issues is to reign in the nuttier impulses of their wives, clearly define roles, and make the focus of their relationship love and not the madness of the world.
Yep. Have her read “The Root” for starters.
Witness the white women falling over themselves to actively assist BLM. They will get here soon enough, though, because they also are actively hated. They try to ignore it and mostly do but as it intensifies they will have to deal with reality.
Yeah, I caught my daughter a bit off guard the other day. The family was talking about the “Karen” meme. What’s funny is that my wife doesn’t really get that it’s anti-White.
Anyway, I mentioned to my daughter that there’s a name for her too. I said Karen is for middle-aged White women and Becky is name for young White women. She didn’t know that. I just said, “Yeah, they make fun of you, too. You guys don’t get a pass.”
The real phrase is…..Another Dead Becky.
Not really.
They recognize that Tyrone is king of the jungle.
Why wouldn’t they want to be the king’s pincushion?
The constant abuse and fear of death > BBC.
I’m with you. My wife has always been on the liberal side politically (though lives her life conservatively) but she was more race aware in her younger days. Kind of an old-school Democrat in a lot of ways. Over time as we’ve lived in an upper-middle class white area, she’s lost a lot of that race awareness and the endless propaganda is working its magic. In her defensive, she married a marginally race aware but mostly color-blind cuckservative, so we weren’t that far apart when we met. I’ve changed a lot more than she has. Corona and the Floyd riots/White… Read more »
However, it also emphasizes that we have to keep our boot down in any potential community, as apparently many whites have a propensity to go anti-white in comfortable situations. You might make a new ethnostate but 20 years later the Karens come back saying “let them in!”.
I don’t know how exactly, but it would have to be unapologetically white, no questions asked, no dissent tolerated, and women would likely not have the right to vote.
Absolutely. There’s one rule above all other rules. It is the only rule.
This community is for our people: Whites.
(Obviously, “White” can be sliced and diced a million ways and probably will be, but once you decide who your tribe is genetically, openly state This is the White state. Israel shows us the way. Israel is the Jewish state.)
Citizen,
Her views can be ranging and adrift of reality because you, and men like you and me in the past have carved out a safe reality for her to live in. Her statements are the ramblings of a child who has forgoten that there are very large wolves beyond the wall. If you don’t acknowledge her mouth noises on the subject she’ll understand the tacit disapproval and will get bored and move on. I used to relish winning endless arguments with logic. Yay me.
Agreed. And to be honest, we very rarely fight about this stuff. She knows my views, and I know hers. I also know that she’ll never want to actually do anything in our lives that matches her views. She’s actually a very good person, and, sadly, that goodness is being used against. Everything in our society says that for a White to be a good person, that White should accept White racism. But this is why I talk constantly about Karens and liberal Whites getting to feed off our social capital. I see it in my own life every day.… Read more »
I’m sure she is a good person. So is Mrs. P. And no, our vigilance and outrage is annoying foolishness to them. Until reality, God forbid, asserts itself. I’d rather ignominious tisking from our wives than a real dose of that for them. Mrs. P and I watch Walking Dead (I know, pozzed and dumb, but I like my TV mindless when I do indulge). There was an episode where a character says his father forced him to listen to the news, even as a small child… to every horrible detail… because it was a man’s responsibility to face the… Read more »
“The most annoying part for me is that I live by my beliefs. She doesn’t. She would never want to live around blacks and didn’t like them when she worked. She’s very organized and definitely a rule follower, everything that blacks aren’t.”
Ohmigosh, my ‘brother’s’ wife to a T.
Up at 4 a.m. on the dot. Everything just so-and-so. I never thought the Two Minutes Hate could actually be a real thing until I saw it in action.
After screaming, “Death to Dictator Trump!!”, she’ll then ask sweetly if you’d like a slice of strawberry cheesecake.
SixxSigma: Just shared a mention of your issue with my husband. His instant, two word response was “Divorce her.” Hah! Seriously, I realize this is painful and a lot of you guys are dealing with this, but I can’t comprehend sharing a home and family and future with someone who does not share my world view. Sure, I bitch about my husband’s quirks – everyone has them and everyone complains to one extent or another – but never his character. We agree utterly on the big questions, and respect each other. Cannot imagine a marriage any other way.
It ain’t easy. I think that for a lot of us, this issues just didn’t come up much when we younger. The world didn’t hate us (quite as much) back then. Also, as many women get more secure financially and are safely set in a White area, they move to gaining social acceptance. It’s natural. For us guys, it’s tough. In my case, my wife is a wonderful person – outside of these beliefs, which she keeps to herself unless something forces the discussion. Also, I’m the one whose views have changed the most. Is that her fault? But, yeah,… Read more »
I was lucky in that my wife has to worry constantly about our neighborhood falling to the surrounding hood. So, that’s what you should do, move to some less expensive housing in a marginal, but not completely shot, area.
In my experience women are best at red-pilling other women. I think there’s also a necessary base-line level of exposure to the actual duhversity
Sixxsigma, Yes. It was hard for me to swallow the knowledge that most women are children. All I can recommend is that you keep in the back of your mind that your wife is a child, with a privileged child’s rosey view of the world and to make her open her eyes to brutal reality is probably not only doomed to failure, but unnecessarily cruel. Remind yourself that this child is your beloved child and be as tender as you can with that knowledge. I’ve brought Mrs. P as far along as her constitution can bear. We agree to not… Read more »
Penitent Man – Your comment is beautiful, but also terribly sad. For all his foibles, my husband is my ‘soul mate,’ and I depend upon that anchor. We did expose our sons to the world’s ugliness – albeit verbally and gradually – and as you wisely note, most women cannot handle even that. Stable marriages and families are equally vital for our people, and men need to establish your 51% rule early on, and make it stick.
3g4me,
You are blessed to have your “soul mate.” Blessed beyond measure that you both recognize it. May it always be so.
It’s not reassuring to read about men, concerned about the political opinions of their wives and other women. The agency of women is limited by their physical strength. They are not the ones that are going to be fighting and dying. They are the prize. It’s not about gold, silver, shiny stones, land or other assets; it’s the women that you can secure with those resources. Any rights, privileges or dispensations women enjoy are at the behest of men who are willing to employ violence against each other to maintain a social order. That social order is secured by men, codified… Read more »
A little blackpilled but mostly right. There is no such thing as strong women, there are only weak men. We are now experiencing the effect of weak men.
Women are social creatures, so unless you can move your wife to an area where most people agree with you, she’ll go with the flow. That’s even more difficult in the era of social media where she can check what all her white female friends are thinking. Most women don’t really have any core beliefs for the most part. Their beliefs come from the crowd. Example: I just got off Facebook this morning. I saw a status update from a white female I used to know. It was post after virtue signalling post about fighting racism. Want to know something… Read more »
One thing that I have recently come to regret is that we moved to a county that is 93% White before my daughter started elementary school. She would have gone to an elementary school that would have been about 50% black based on the district lines at the time where we were living. We didn’t want that, so we moved to the more rural county we live in now. She’s never had to deal with blacks in large numbers in the wild and, of course, she’s now as pozzed as the rest of her generation. A bit more direct experience… Read more »
“You need to root for your own team, because nobody else will.”
This hit home. It’s so common to see right wingers say “Asians hate blax too!” “Look at the Mexicans keeping their areas safe! Natural allies!”
It’s hard to admit that we’re all alone in this especially since we accepted all these people in on the lie that they did want to become like us, and join our nation.
Non whites are hostile to us at worst, neutral at best.
This has always been a huge problem on the putative ‘hard right.’ That damned White genetic propensity to think “Oh, ‘x’ is so nice, not like the others, he/she can join in!” And daily having to refute those same delusions (no, the Asians are not your friends, they intend to be your rulers; no, the Mestizos are not ‘almost White,’ there are thousands of years of genetic history demonstrating why) is tiresome. Basic truths are basic, but still seem to need incessant repetition and they never truly take with an unfortunately large swathe of the White population.
It is heartening to see sites like Unz, VDare and Occidental Observer running pieces openly advocating for extra-systemic solutions like White Strike (the much more honest and based way of saying “going Galt”), leaving the cities to TPTB and other 5PT themes. For the older voices in Our Thing (and that’s coming from an older Xer, FWIW), I’d love to see some more radicalism and fire. What are guys like Derb waiting for? When my candle grows short, I plan to take more chances, not less. And I’m also expecting more out of Tucker if he’s for real rather than… Read more »
these guys write and think for a living. By nature they are not risk takers. Sure, they took professional risks, and they have guts in that context. But their hands are soft. that is not a condemnation of them it takes all kinds. We need them, but no denying that the dissident right is largely an intellectual movement. I remember in college it was largely a protest type movement by conservative professors and academics against PC and liberalism. I remember reading The New Criterion, and that was what it sprang from. which is why I think that Z Man is… Read more »
Tucker can do more for our side by doing his low end Red pilling than doing a Beale. If did go that route the MSM and the Left would destroy him and his family.
Same way Peterson did with his book and lecture tours. Having white men clean up their acts before doing other things, and Peterson exposing the Left as so much fakes and thugs helped us a lot.
I don’t know. Tucker is, for lack of a better term, pink-pilling hundreds of thousands nightly. Sometimes, more recently than ever, he reaches into the red-pill basket even on racial issues (you can tell how bad he wants to go there). Fox is horrible but has enormous reach. I hope he stays in place as long as possible until the Murdoch cucklings boot him.
No matter how bad things get, conservatives like Pat Buchanan keep chugging along writing articles like it’s 1990. Maybe they don’t want to get canceled or value fame and money above principle? Or maybe they are waiting for it to become socially acceptable to speak the truth? None of these excuses is honorable, in my opinion. From my point of view, the fire of which you speak is an independence movement. Jews founded Israel to escape what they claimed was oppression. Why shouldn’t we do the same? The obvious solution seems to be secession. Take a red state (or a… Read more »
White flight is about to get a serious jolt. You can already see it taking shape. But this is a different white fight, it is flight with an explicit “no minorities allowed”. In the past, no minorities was implicit. Now it is stated loud and clear. If I and others are thinking it, it’s happening. And there are going to be some well financed developers ready to exploit it. No reason a smaller less well-financed group can’t do the same and start building subdivisions or private clubs or private schools where European history and racial solidarity are front and center.… Read more »
There is a great sorting underway even now. White people are fleeing the cities and that is accelerating (is it possible that was one intention of the coordinated Floyd riots? If so, thank you!). Individual states, even some counties, are on the cusp of breaking apart. Whites increasingly refuse to serve as cannon fodder for the Empire and increasingly are locked out of the police state’s bureaucracies. Again, thanks! This from Vdare yesterday pretty well nails it: https://vdare.com/articles/the-old-america-is-dead-where-do-we-go-from-here Note: the thesis is the November election is irrelevant to what happens now and as the police state becomes more vicious the… Read more »
Jack,
Spot on. The only hiccup will be when Leftie television starts the major push, “To move to Smalltown America” like it’s a Foodie (Lord that phrase irritates me) craze thing. They’ll try to make it hip and encourage eclectic types to hipsterize rural America.
They’ll be lots of good people, Our People, fleeing to rural America… the trick will be to sort out the Progs that arrive with a huge unwelcome mat and no small gestures of ill will.
Those fleeing the cities explicitly due to racial concerns won’t have much use for their former neighbors who made what happened possible, either. But, yes, the cancers need to be excised quickly.
Wadsworth, see my comment about on 20,000 communities above and a lot of what myself, Lineman, Moss and others have said here in the past, If it’s hopeless to form our own communities (it isn’t), how do you propose to ever fight? How are you in a superior position to mount an organized resistance to any of this unless you have real-life social bonds and a physical community of like-minded men? Unless and until we come together, the idea of secession is a pipe dream. You want to declare an independent state before anyone lives in it? You can’t flex… Read more »
Tucker is nightly saying things that are so close to our way of thinking that I cannot believe he still has his show. He is reaching an incredible # of people that are standing on the other shore gazing across at us with both fear and hope in their hearts. If they disappear Tucker anytime soon , the wheel will turn the 1 click past the pretense that normal is still possible .
Tucker has become my must-listen show.
He’s specially useful in learning how to speak normally, act greyly.
My usual mode of wild-eyed foaming at the mouth seems to turn people off, I can’t quite figure out why.
The underlying rationale for not taxing the rich is completely backwards. The thinking goes like this… The rich are “job creators” and if we tax them they will create fewer jobs. The reality is 100% backwards from this. Back when we had a 90% tax rate we were the most productive country on the planet. As libertarian ideas took over the US we became gradually poorer and poorer. One industry after another completely vanished while the rich got richer and richer. Industries we invented are entirely gone. A combination of open borders, free trade and a new tax regime along… Read more »
Corporate promotion of BLM, antifa, and widespread anti-white hate reveals one of the more obvious reasons for taxing the ultra-rich: they have all the power and they use it for our enemies advantage; they aren’t on our side and never were. If money is power, then you defeat the powerful by taking away their money. That’s what most of this BLM / corporate stuff is really all about. The rich are scared the mob will come for their money, so they are desperately signalling they are on the mob’s side by throwing us under the bus. Louis XVI did something… Read more »
Your view of tax history is a gross oversimplification. In the first place, America was vastly different socially and legally when tax rates were 90%. Finally, nobody wants to pay 90% taxes so there were plenty of loopholes. I agree that tax systems should be fairer. But what does that mean? I say flatter the better, but others want “progressive” (brackets). In either event, the tax system will always be a poltiical football and that usually means favoritism to the wealthy and lying to everybody 😀
Look, nobody, myself included, believes that a 90% top tax bracket will magically bring back all of the things we lost. But the ONE thing we absolutely do know is that a 90% tax bracket didn’t cause us to be poor. It didn’t kill the “job creators” One thing a 90% tax bracket will do is prevent the growth of multinational corporations taking over everything. As Z says here, we have to stop thinking in the old ways. The thinking of the last 50 years has enabled 50 years of thinking getting worse by the day. Another thing that directly… Read more »
Agree that we need to overhaul economic policy. But a problem that transcends this is a deep spiritual poverty, and no government can fix that. We are not equipped as a society to discuss the morality of economics until we address foundational issues like good vs evil, right vs wrong. Try discussing MMT or tax policies with postmodern progressive Marxists … their religion is the ANTITHESIS of the dissident worldview, and the rackets and extortion are part/parcel of their faith. It’s Yankee extremism run amok, and that religion needs to be burnt to the ground (or we need partition) before… Read more »
Only a moron thinks they can determine the tax burden on corporations by looking at the tax rates. Of much greater importance are the allowable deductions, loss carry forwards, tax free zones- Puerto Rico springs to mind, foreign taxes paid etc. Most of the S&P 500 pay little (and in the case of some, negative) taxes.
Government spending should be deducted from Gross Domestic Product. It is not Production, it is entirely consumption.
All true, bile!
Now quit calling your friends morons, you diddy bint.
I hate to use the word but it’s systemic. Whatever the day’s power currency there will always be an elite group controlling most of it. Under feudalism, there were few immensely powerful landowners. When capitalism replaced that, capitalists became to new lords. In the information age it’s the uber-nerds.
People have been trying and succeeding at bringing down the system for ages, but this only leads to the rise of different systems with different elites. It’s the human condition.
You do realize all those corporations and rich people hate our guts and doing everything to destroy us from off-shoring, importing foreign worker, etc. They pump drugs into our towns,destroy small businesses, treat white workers like crap.
Aligning with Communist China.
These people are our enemy and only fool would give them a break
RW, how is your constant black-pilling about the hopeless DR not “giving them a break?”
Zman, have you got a backup of your blog and podcast? If you make a torrent for them, it can easily be shared if something happens to you or your site, and enemy action wouldn’t be able to rob us of your invaluable contributions.
Excellent suggestion. I’m no expert, but I think he could make available old information and still retain copyrights, if that is his worry. I’d like to see a downloadable archive of all his essays from the past. Why not add transcripts of audio podcasts as well? Again, copyrights shouldn’t be an issue “for non-comemrcial use only” or whatever. There are, I’m sure, many here who’d gladly volutneer to transcribe or proofread for such a project. I can understand Z’s resistance, even if for no other reason than he’s a one-man show, with a full time (?) real job, and overseeing… Read more »
Any one of the sites listed here will enable you to download the complete website- this is for Windows, I’m sure Android and Apple have equivalents.
https://listoffreeware.com/best-free-website-downloader-software-for-windows/
This takes a while- several hours.. You will play the White Man and Run it late at night, won’t you?
Friday/Saturday might be good if Mr Z is goofing off then.
How to spread torrent, when big tech has taken internet down to stop Nazis ? I predict that this will happen soon.
Z-man, you give people the benefit of the doubt to legislators by saying they had good intentions when they were passing the original civil rights laws and anti-Semitism laws but I think you’re wrong. For the movers and shakers of all these different movements, there were enough people around them spelling out what was going to happen, which is in fact what happened, for them to hear the truth. It doesn’t take a genius So either their intentions were bad or they were answering to someone with bad intent. I can see forgiving the plebs for their desire to feel… Read more »
there’s no doubt that for the hardcore progressives, this was all planned out.
Whitney – you addressed this to Z but if I may politely interject: “So either their intentions were bad or they were answering to someone with bad intent” A very good case can be made that the culprits you seek writing laws with bad intent, or answering to those with bad intent may indeed be: The Founders, Hildebrand aka Pope Gregory VII, and Jesus Christ himself. “All men are created equal” is utterly non-self evident outside of the context of Christianity. In fact outside of Christianity it’s inane, insane even. Some will say the Founders meant political rights and they’re… Read more »
Whitney if I can interject: you asked Z about bad intentions or answering to bad intended people: Civil Rights absolutely.
They never intended to stop at anything less than our extinction.
But it could never have happened outside the context of the Founders “all men are created equal”.
Yes they meant political rights, but it’s self evidently inane, even insane. Which could never have happened outside the context of Hildebrand/Gregory VII, and Christianity.
Good news: We’re post Christian.
Bad news: We’re also our true genocidal enemy.
The Blacks are a violent sideshow. Always were.
Couldn’t agree more … any thinking person had to realize what Civi Rights and Hart-Celler would lead to. Ditto for women’s suffrage and feminism. We’ll just never hear of their manifold warnings.
This is indeed a classic; and I found it refreshing to listen to it again. It shares hard truths. The recent collapse of reason and sanity in the face of Wuflu and St. George of the Jungle underscores that the best way forward is simply to tell people what you want without explaining the why. If they agree with you, they may be an ally with whom to build community. If they disagree, but act indifferent to you; they may be regarded as neutral. If they disagree and oppose you with threats or attacks, they are an enemy and should… Read more »
Good things are never easy Brother and that’s a chance anyone takes when they want the best for their people…
Great show and despite it being older is quite timely. A repeat of late May early June in 10 years will be far worse. They will be going into increasingly marginalized white areas and lynching people. Most white people live in white areas and I have to think a lot of them have no idea how late in the game it is. People under 18 are majority non-white (I think it’s worse because nearly all whites get counted, but many non-whites slip through and don’t get counted) In 7 years it will be adults and children under 25. 5 years… Read more »
Yep, whites are shockingly blind. Most Torontonian whites have no idea that we’re now only 48% white… (as of 2016). They just don’t go to most non-white areas and don’t think about them. Of course, diversity is still our strength.
They don’t go to non-white areas? How is that even possible in Toronto?
While you’re dicking around with your tax policy, the other side is building you a prison. The main point of friction retarding the realignment of priorities in the minds of the White electorate has been an obstinate, almost maladaptive inability to let go of the primacy of materialistic concerns as the sole purpose and stake of public policy. Here in Europe, the immigration question and its dyscivilizational fallout have been on every one’s mind for at least two decades. Yet to date, it hasn’t dethroned stuff, the accruing and keeping of, as the primary electoral decision factor. Dissidents have made… Read more »
Anon- Very well said. I think my favorite line (They are like the administrator still churning out policy long after the company was adjudicated bankrupt and broken up in court.) could be applied to numerous situations. People harping on their pet issue (abortion, public prayer, marijuana, taxes, etc.) need to focus on THE issue, which is demographics. That won’t solve all our problems by a long shot, but they are all subsidiary to it. Start with White people, and we can separate/move on from there.
state just closed all the bars again. fuck this gay earth
Comments are jacked. No votes counted and you cannot sort by Most Voted, just FYI in case you aren’t aware.
Server’s hanging up I think, Zman.
“Read more” and edit slow or not responding.
Pretty good vacation fodder. I’d downloaded all those from Before My Time Here but hadn’t got round to listening. Well, a daily dose til the Z-Man returns from his well-earned rest, and I’ll be all caught up!
Rezlac, that is an excellent idea!
My aunt went to her grave at the age of 84 still subscribed to that old rag, National Review. I tried, but could never convince her that they were one of the ‘bad guys’. People get set in their ways and it takes a new generation to see the light.
Take heart, at least she wasn’t subscribed to the Young Turks.
Could someone please explain to me how James Allsup is banned from YouTube but those racists aren’t? TYT is run by a racist Turk, son of an immigrant of course, who promotes every police shooting, every innocuous incident, into a racial conflagration against whites (the Starbucks episode from a few years ago). It’s obviously racial. There are countless examples. They should be banned from the platform or Google should be deplatformed until they do it themsevles. They aren’t because Google supports TYT and their causes. And I mean that literally. YouTube has been caught in the past promoting their fundraisers.
Stop using the word racist to describe these people. When you as a white person use that word, it’s 1) ineffective and powerless against them, because only whites can be racist and 2) operating within the left’s moral framework. Being racist is not a crime or a bad thing. In fact, it’s how this nation operated for many years, and with good reason as we now know. You only further legitimize the left when you repeat that word.
It’s going to be difficult, but you need to stop thinking like a conservative and start thinking like a dissident.
“Stop using the word racist to describe these people.” They are racist against me, and I’ll continue to use the term because it applies. Using “racist” in this fashion weakens them (and their ability to use the term effectively against me) while also getting my side to think in blatantly racial terms. Eschewing the term does not make it go away any more than an ostrich can make the world disappear by sticking his head in the dirt. “1) ineffective and powerless against them, because only whites can be racist” It IS effective in getting our side to think in… Read more »
Politics is a morality play as you say, and using “racist” against TYT buys in to their morality. It strengthens them. The fundamental thing here is to ignore their morality. An effective alternative term is “anti-white”
Avoiding the word will not make it go away and “anti-white” isn’t a good substitute because normies will just associate that term with racism and “white supremacists”. I’ve heard for years from conservatives that words like “racist” will lose their meaning, but they never did. In fact, they are stronger than ever. Calling out these people as racists works because 1) “racist” already has cache & legitimacy, so the media can’t just dismiss the term 2) it pits their group against ours through implicit association 3) it associates that word with discrimination against us, which defangs it in the opposition’s… Read more »
The media regularly CAN and DO dismiss the term–when white people use it against other races. This happens every single day.
Sixxsigma and Wadesworth,
You are both on to something. Six is correct in saying that throwing “racist” around is a powerless tool against your adversaries that will only garner laughter and heckling. Wadesworth refusing to abandon the word has some merit, if you can use it to lead receptive whites to us by getting them to realize the shoe is now on the other foot… then there is a utility to that.
Because evil runs roughshod right now, and asking the Devil to apply the rules fairly is a fools errand.
Who’s asking anyone to apply anything? I don’t need anyone’s permission to weaponize their own words and beliefs against them.
Wadsworth,
That was in response to your detailing how unfair it was that YouTube censor Allsup and not TYT. It is clear to all that there is an inherent bias against us in the tech giants. Are you just being made aware of this? Asking them to hold some sort of consistent set of rules is so 2018. I understand the frustration of not being able to fight, but you chose to be surly with your own kind because of an inability to lash out at the real culprits.
Be calm, Sir.
The Boomers and Gen-X is really no better.
Two or three generations past your aunt, Boomers and X’ers will be dutifully clicking on the Drudge link.
It was very good, any chance of getting a curated top 10,20,??? best podcasts?
Great idea. The Greek and Roman – especially the Greek – podcasts were great. I also liked the one that spelled out what was the Dissident Right.
Sure that I’m forgetting others, but those three pop out.
Right wing economics was good as well
Z Man said: ” The rich think White people are a pestilence and need to be eliminated.” Seems to me to be an extreme case of what Victor Davis Hanson calls “the oldest divide.” It’s simply the age old war between the people inside the walls of the city and the people on the outside. Of course now it’s a global, multi-trillion-dollar high tech juggernaut that does as it pleases. And sence we can’t beat the system, and we don’t want to join it either the only solution is to find ways to avoid being intangled in the global hegemon.… Read more »
It’s 5:21 my time…upvotes are not being displayed for some reason, at least on my end. Just a heads up in case anyone else mentions it.
screw upvotes
Agreed. Do away with them
Here’s a downvote, then
Consider it equality of outcome conditioning lol
Sorry Zman, you are flat wrong on taxes. Not about Libertarians, but you fail to accept the reality that the rich hate us. [They do]. Do you think that the Rich would EVER get taxed? Microsoft? Apple? No, opposition to taxes is a White Identity movement that appeared early. Don’t be taxed, and hand over greater and greater amounts of money to the Federal Government run by the rich who hate us (and non Whites, ditto) to help enslave us. Rather, be opposed to taxes since it gives middle class White moeny in ever greater amounts to non-Whites and the… Read more »
This particular podcast made me a fan of the blog. Good choice, brilliant analysis. The division into uniform 10-minute segments was a particularly good touch.
This will be our first major post-Christian war America.
Should be interesting…
That was a good show. I have an old friend, Vietnam vet, karate master, classic blue collar ‘Murica civ nat patriot and very patriotic indeed. Much older than me, he has ‘moments of clarity’ but still very much the old school civ nat beliefs that America is a set of ideas more than a people. How on earth to tell a guy like him that the America he suffered and fought for in dark jungles far away, I have no idea. I feel melancholy coming over me now. Here’s to what may soon no longer be but sure as hell… Read more »
The Stand. Analysis of our weaknesses, how to turn to strengths. Think of our people and organize locally. Not online. The conditions for “Heritage Americans’ to make a stand do not exist. 1. Sufficient motivation to do something other than run, or call the police. 2. – Organizations to stand with. 3. : Legal Permission slip. The Cult of Law will die very hard, probably only at the end of a long line of bodies and tragedies. 4. : Leadership. Our leaders are either denouncing us, ignoring the problem, or are helpless cowards. We have no War leaders, with rare… Read more »
1) be a secretly violent fishing club with violent embezzling gay cannibal war leaders.
2) ???
3) Ethnostate
And everyone who disagrees is a Fed.
Let be productive exile. You give legal advice, let the sarge give ah small group mannerbund advice. We can both be practical in service of the common cause of our paleness. Mind you if you’re giving legal advice gay fishing club isn’t the worst cover story of these strange times. Any group of men now is better than none. I hope you know the Blacks are certainly better positioned right now in terms of ah Krieg leaders, actual fighters, morale and cohesiveness than we are ; its simple enough. They have something. We have nothing. We have nothing. No orgs… Read more »
“We have nothing. No orgs”
Do not go out and join any organization with people you aren’t familiar with. The FBI and CIA use fake groups to generate lists of dissidents, doxx / arrest people, and entrap kids with fake terror plots, which only serves their interests.
We don’t have any orgs because we don’t have any institutional support. The other side does, so they are allowed groups like BLM, SPLC, and various Jewish groups. Get the institutional support and you can have the orgs. You can do that through secession.
Just get secession and we’ll have institutional support.. Any other wishes Are you disabled? Organize The fear of feds everywhere is the ultimate control mechanism. Simply do not discuss breaking the laws, or better politics at all Just get secession and we’ll get institutional support… then go for it, show us. I’m fair. But do you understand my “wishes” comment? You are saying get to desired end state and then/ only then/ organize the means to the end. Secession is an end, it requires means. I also take issue that nothing can be done without institutional support, is your arm… Read more »
Got to say, V, sounds solid. I’ve started with my little family, uprooting everything to go nomad for a bit. Scouting some states that met the small list of criteria. My radar is up for like minded fishing buddies…I like it. You or Sarge bring some fishing technique, Exile legal, Lineman infrastructure, I’ll weigh in on business and process. Let’s go.
With ya on this, sarge.
Some don’t get military’s black humor.
Useful skills and crafts are a natural organizing point:
We’ll need them all.
They’re grey. fun, and non-threatening.
Nature will do the rest. Men have a million years of experience in forming hunting bands. There is a place for everyone, everyone is needed and critical.
What we need most are useful skills and crafts- such as experienced legal advice, Exile. We need that in spades, as every “activist” does one thing, and one thing only: bring it to a lawsuit.
I agree, one of the best shows, one which I will be sharing with MY tribe in an effort to deprogram them.
Maybe It’s Time To Let The Old Ways Die..(before we do)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgXtMXuDdw
MAH PRO LIFE…STOP ABORSHUNS …MAH COURTS..
Court says Doctors don’t need to be accepted in local hospitals [in case the aborshun goes wrong].
No loss. The mother shouldn’t make it off the table.
Nope, she shouldn’t.
Nothing to do with the court watching TV, no…
I’m not sad. I know who gets aborted. 53%.
It’s still funny. The Cult of the Laws will die hard.
A toast to the Supremes, and to eugenics applied.
https://apnews.com/c9c6eee97277d6e8e71f568cde830e46
Z was right about Parler
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/parler-ceo-wants-liberal-to-join-the-pro-trump-crowd-on-the-app.html
Other’s holi-days come first; another I noticed was Juneteenth/Pride Month come ahead of Fourth of July. The Great Replacement.
We’ll just have to disagree about legal drugs. To quote (imperfectly) from Browne’s How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World. “Will the legalization of marijuana ruin society? Why? Alcohol hasn’t, even though it’s caused reckless drivers, addicts who steal to support their habits, broken families, and all the other problems we blame on illegal drugs.” Of course there are drugs and then there are drugs. Marijuana is relatively innocuous If you look at statistics, alcohol does far more damage to society than pot does. None of the several States that have legalized recreational use have fallen into the abyss… Read more »
I get your point but it depends on the person and how they react to drugs. Pot may be somewhat innocuous for some but it isn’t for all people. And booze is the same way. I can get plastered and never get hangovers. But some people go through withdrawals and get the shakes and vomit for a few days and it’s worse than a bad flu. Pot has some serious effects on some people. And it will get worse with all of the increased potency. I think the issue is how much of a societal sickness are we willing to… Read more »
“None of the several States that have legalized recreational use have fallen into the abyss yet.”
Open your eyes pal. Legalizing it was the abyss. As far as I’m concerned, there’s way too many dope smokin’ parasites in this country as it is.
All wrong OBT. Government assuming the power to make the herb illegal was the abyss. Ditto for the extreme stupidity of Prohibition.
If people had even an ounce of self-respect and self-control, there wouldn’t be any need for the law to get involved. If your grateful for your life, you don’t eat poison everyday. And no, I don’t drink or smoke tobacco.
On the immoral coldness of the Reactionary “Take Personal Responsibility” outlook. From about the 42:45 to end of podcast. That was good. (Disagree on Z’s melodramatic slippery-slope catastrophe framing of legalized marijuana. But that’s just Z’s inner dad bursting out, so no biggy). But good 20 minutes touching on the importance of empathy through understanding the forces that put people in a jam. It’s a high psychological hurdle for certain hard-scrabble types (for anyone really) who’ve overcome tough things, to listen to someone discuss their own adversities. Their legit hardships are seen as a “sob story”. It’s said that “what… Read more »
You act like white lives haven’t been ruined for drug offenses too or DUI laws. I know a number of working class guys financially ruined from DUI fines and fees and jail. Granted, DUIs were never legal, but the process is MEANT to be punitive to working class people. Everyone has their pet theories for why it’s this way, but it is. That said, there are a ton of things that were once forbidden and illegal the became legalized. Pot isn’t the only one. Like I say, pretty much everything the mafia was thrown in jail for is now pretty… Read more »
I speak only of weed because it’s pretty harmless. To throw into the mix alcohol (you) or heroin (Z) distorts the issue. So, as for weed, it’s criminalization hurt blacks more. For a number of reasons. A few we’d surely agree on. Anyway, your response highlights the empathy topic. i.e. “Screw them. We had it just as bad.” No. no we didn’t.
I have no time for crazed fools who want government to “help” anybody do anything, anytime.