And Don’t Come Back!

In another highly coordinated effort, the tech oligarchs ritualistically banned a bunch of people and groups from their platforms yesterday. Of note, Reddit banned the Donald Trump fan club from their site. YouTube banned American Renaissance and Stefan Molyneux from their platform. Something called “Twitch” banned the Trump campaign team from its site. All of these people and groups have been accused of impiety by the people in charge of public morality, so they have been punished.

Of course, many of the proscribed have responded according to their role in the great morality play of the Left. They found somewhere on social media to express their outrage and hurt over being kicked off a left-wing platform. There were the denunciations of left-wing hypocrisy and the calls for free speech. The chorus played its role, amplifying the outrage of the proscribed. At this point, the only interesting thing about these rituals is the targets they select for punishment.

Reddit, for example, made an example of the TERF community. Those would be radical feminists who exclude men in sundresses. They were purged for the crime of accepting biological reality. Stefan Molyneux, who has refashioned himself into a street corner philosopher, was banned from YouTube allegedly for advocating violence. In reality, he was selected because YouTube has run out of popular heretics. They have so broken their site that even heretics are losing interest in it.

The important part of this is not the targets, but the ritual. As you see with Molyneux, they will claim a milquetoast libertarian actor is Hitler in order to fill the role in the morality tale. It’s not important that he is not actually Hitler. What matters is they have someone to parade around as a heretic on whom they can ritualistically heap their scorn and then chase from their midst. For all it matters, these recently proscribed people could be macramé enthusiasts or bird watchers.

That’s what people outside the halls of the one true faith fail to grasp. The people deciding to ban Jared Taylor spent no time listening to what he has to say or examining his videos for violations of their morality codes. They are physically incapable of being around those who dispute the tenets of the faith. Jared is just a blasphemer, an agent of the great evil against which they fight. The same is true in varying degrees for all of the people thrown off these left-wing sites.

For the people doing this, the only time they bother to listen to the damned is after the fact, when the condemned are complaining about their banning. Progressivism is a sadistic faith, fueled by the suffering of its enemies. You can be sure the various committees and working groups tasked with finding this round of heretics were replaying Moly’s Twitter performance over and over as they gratified themselves. He was playing his role like a legendary thespian at the peak of his ability.

It is the biggest problem facing those opposed to the new religion. Instead of accepting it as a religion, opponents insist on imposing their own sense of logic and reason onto the actions of these people. “They are banning us because they are afraid of what we have to say!” No, the people conducting these rituals have no idea what someone like Molyneux says in his videos. He could be speaking in tongues for all they care. He is not a person to them. He is a character in their morality play.

The rock heads and cranks on this side will dispute this, because that is what makes them rock heads and cranks. They will keep imposing their sensibilities on the other side, despite generations of evidence to the contrary. Worse yet, they will insist that these left-wing platforms are vital ground. We have to exhaust ourselves fighting to get on these platforms. Of course, that just means a steady supply of people ready to play the role of the damned in the next morality play.

The proper response to all of this is to simply leave these platforms. The argument is that these platforms are the public square, but that’s not true. No one goes on Twitter to have their mind changed about anything. People go on Twitter to have their opinions confirmed by people they already like. The same is true of YouTube. If you really enjoy Moly’s performances, you can always go to his site. This is how it worked up until about ten years ago. It’s how this site works.

Further, the proper response to de-platforming efforts is to ignore them. When you go public and moan about the attacks, the Left is exhilarated. They see the suffering as a trophy that keeps cheering for them. Sure, it is no fun to go through. No one wants to waste time moving servers or changing domain registrars, but publicly complaining about it does not make the burden lighter. It just encourages the people doing it to keep looking for fresh victims. It stimulates them.

Ultimately, our side joins the fight when we finally wake-up and accept the other side for what it is. The Left are not reasonable people. They are not operating from a set of fixed rules that can be mastered by an outsider. There is no beating them at their own game or on their platforms. These are evil people who are only motivated by the suffering of decent people. They feed on your frustration and your complaints. When you engage with them, you are giving them oxygen

The way forward is to reduce the number of contacts between them and us. Instead of going inside the walls of their domains to be fed upon like cattle, make them scale the walls of our domains. No, that does not mean building a new internet. It just means not going onto their platforms. Sure, they can attack Molyneux by going after his registrar or hosting company, but that is time consuming and often futile. It makes them work hard for the dopamine rush of tormenting the condemned.

That’s ultimately the battle we face. There’s no defeating the Left in the conventional sense of a fight. Instead, the goal is to exhaust them. Since a big part of what sustains them is the attention they get from their victims, not giving them that attention increases their cost of operation. The trouble is, many on our side is like a battered wife. They can only feel love when they are being pummeled. They have been conditioned to take the beating and then come back asking for more.

When our side sits it out, the results are impressive. Look at the riots. The Left was sure these riots would draw out “right-wing extremists” they could then use as a foil. When that did not happen, they tried inventing them, but failed to make it work. It’s hard to convince people that the black guys beating a white guy with a skateboard are actually white nationalists. It just underscored the fact that the only people in the streets are left-wing agitators and their pets from the vibrant community.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is why they have started banning people from their platforms again. The riots have been a terrible disaster for them. They fully expected a dozen Charlottesville-style events, with lots of bad guys they could parade around on their media platforms. Instead they got semi-literate savages and potheads claiming part of Seattle as a new country. This should be the model for all future interaction with the Left. Engage them in the shadows, never in public.

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
3 months ago

To Z’s broader point here: there is no “war winning” strategy at the moment aside from staying alive. The war is over and Progressivism won.

Lay low, stay alive. Remember, it took 21 years for the Bourbons to get the throne back, but they did.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Sometimes the best way to win a tug-of-war is to let go of the rope.

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

I can’t accept that the war is over. The progressives have won many battles, true, but not the war. There may be a lull, even a long lull, but the war is far from over.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 months ago

The war is over in the sense that the AWRs have killed America. Now commences the war for the ethnostate.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

That is what everyone fears. Its war to the knife knife to the hilt at that point. An aging society with few children and built on a brittle premise is naturally at best timid. Its certainly incapable of much bravery or much in the way of integrity as it has nothing to preserve and little reason to live. No guts or glory. Ultimately though tribe is truth and that cannot be denied for long. The only weakness being is the rival trove, the woke is something akin to the early Muslims, a tribal people , a raid culture fueled by… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

Why I think the “we are a nation of immigrants” is always being said. Because what does this really mean? It means none of us truly can claim ownership this country in a physical or spiritual sense because we are really little more than passersby, visitors, tourists even. A guy over the border has just as much right to the place as you do because you are an “immigrant” too (even if you were born here and family has been here for generations). It’s a very clever and underhanded way to weaken one’s grip. Which brings me to your point.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

Falcone – The string-pullers realize just how brittle is the sense of ‘nationhood,’ which is part of why they’re pushing the covid drama to make the Karens and cucks think they’re part of a noble, national cause. A grocery chain’s ‘public service’ message talks about how “we” need to all work “together” to “keep one another safe” (as I dubiously eye all the third worlders). There’s an electronic billboard en route to my son’s job that flashes the message “Be Kind. Stay Safe.” No, I will not do either.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
3 months ago

They must sense it. If 9/11 couldn’t bring the “nation” together nothing will

But isn’t this what they wanted? Or said they did?

What interests me is what happens when they need people to go fight a war. Will whites still be willing to die? I wonder if the string pullers take whites for granted in that respect.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

The US isn’t going to war with Russia or the Norks , we’d get nuked or with China as we’d lose or get nuked. Normally we’d try and bang the war drum but can’t , no viable targets and Iran risks Russian involvement and if things don’t go well the Chinese take Tawian and our military no longer can repair its high tech equipment as its not made here. Ultimately it would not surpise me if we have civil conflict though, Not this petty and litigant destruction by the a left salted with occasional often internecine Leftist violence but the… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

You may be right, but I guess my hope, as it were, is the country comes a calling and whites tell them to go stuff it. That would make me smile.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

so fight their religious hysteria with ours. it used to work. jail the zionists, circumcised or not, and settle any conversos/mischlings in Israel. force them to make it a Christian tributary state that allows Palestine to coexist. try all modernists as blasphemers (sure, we can give a pass to pagans respectful of Christ). revive segregation, carve new monoracial states and mixed border marches if needed, all in the name of God. declare a truce with some high-iq Asiatics, at least with those that want to help stem the tide of brown and black and red (and pink if you include… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

Falcone, I think 9/11 DID “bring the country together” in important ways. In the immediate aftermath, masculine virtue was exalted; a traditional American identity was coalescing around defending the country from the outsiders that had free reign here. The Left saw that, understood what it meant for them, and had to stop it dead. Naturally, they were helped by (((allies))) on the “Right” who were eager to p1ss away all the good in order to advance their parochial interests. I think that period will be looked on as a “hinge” of history, when things could have gone either way. Obviously,… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ChrisZ
3 months ago

What I remember after 9/11 was candlelight vigils and GW telling me they hated me for my freedoms. And meanwhile he was letting in hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees. And the border wasn’t shut. For people like me in a border state, who has been having to deal with illegals for decades, my thought was “you are telling me we are at war and yet the border is open??” Didn’t compute, ergo, we can’t really be at war despite his words to the contrary. And the left was still screaming about war and lady pink or whatever they were.… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

You are describing the latter part of my comment, following “The Left saw that….”
All that stuff you remember was the *reaction* to a flowering of masculine patriotism, which characterized the immediate aftermath of 9/11. The Greeks called the daughter of Ares (War) “Harmonia,” and she was reborn in 2001, but smothered in her crib.

PDW
PDW
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

“And the left was still screaming about war and lady pink or whatever they were.”

Now the left wants to start a war with Russia over Afghanistan. I think it’s pretty clear by now they are simply for whatever hurts whites or white interests. They were anti-war after 9/11 because a white president & political party were for it. They are pro-war now because a white president is against it (and because Russians are white, so it’d be a good opportunity to kill whites). We need separate countries. We can’t continue to live with such a vile people.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ChrisZ
3 months ago

That’s a very good point. 9/11 had the potential to crush the multi-culti suicide cult, but it didn’t. Likewise, the collapse of the USSR could have thoroughly discredited communism, but somehow did not. It seems whites are truly hellbent on self destruction.

Pip McGuigin
Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 months ago

Well said.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  3g4me
3 months ago

Nationhood is only brittle if it is not homogenous.
For those that are its still potent as a cause.

Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 months ago

I would say that most of my current attitude towards the whole disgusting society is summed up in one phrase – There is no “we”! I’d say the propaganda backfired bigly in my case. I currently regard my fellow Americans as the greatest likely threat to my life, property, and future happiness. North Korea? Russia? Iran? Who cares. When I think of the enemy I don’t see a Rooskie or a Korean. I see a heroin addled AntiFag with a stick followed by nogs, purple haired wammen, and clowns with microphones pretending to be journalists. I’ve never hated anyone as… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

Agreed. And in retrospect, I’d say the enemy within was far more dangerous than the enemy without, even during the latter half of the Cold War.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

Multi ethnic empires like ours always have to sell false unity by any means they can otherwise they fall apart. Ours is dysfunctional to an extreme degree not from Antifa as much as it simply can’t even provide bread and circuses for much longer. By the end of July, unless unemployment is extended the US economy will simply collapse and the nation within a few months will enter a massive depression with vast amounts of homelessness , hunger and internecine hate. The delusional assumption that we can just get people back to work is just that delusional and there are… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

with you on that. What happens when the unemployment and Trump Bucks run out can’t be good. I’m just glad I was able to get my daughter out of the major blue city I live in.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

As much as I don’t want to see it, those benes will be extended because great swaths of the economy are done and there’s no coming back. TPTB probably don’t want to risk complete collapse just yet – although, hey, if it gets rid of Trump, it’s all good. I just hate all f-ing politicians.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

I suspect at this point gibs are not optional The USA has about 200 million people (not counting illegals) over 21 alone all of whom can assumed to be armed and the US econmy is collapsing. So many people are primed for violence already its scary and note even if the military would obey which they would not it would not be possible to say use mustard gas to stop this as the focal point would be the cities where the elite live. They may try to ride it out for a while in hopes the magic economy fairy will… Read more »

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

you will know how castizos live.

PDW
PDW
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

This was completely foreseeable. Perhaps not the current crisis itself, but the consequences of multiculturalism. I remember thinking years ago, “what happens if there is a major emergency like a war? would this diverse empire hold together? If not, then maybe we should rethink this mass immigration thing and tone down the divisive racial politics.” Why didn’t our leaders ask the same questions? For a long time I thought it was malice, but after that Tucker Carlson interview with that Indiana senator, I realize that many of these people are simply imbeciles. We are ruled by incompetents who don’t deserve… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  PDW
3 months ago

It’s malice AND stupidity. The Dems are the party of evil and the Reps the party of idiocy. Lately, they’ve been getting together to do things that are both evil and idiotic.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Nicely said.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

the vaccine will be worse than this stupid wuflu, they will track you with it.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

agreed, it will eventually come to pure tribe, if nothing changes. although enough allies can be summoned, if not to defend the useless American System, at least the older folk-Christian civilization that allowed both whites and colored to be segregated for a long while. friendly enough mixed groups like tan whites and light mestizos could occupy border marches in the tropics. from there on, a better northern homeland on the world for whites can be kept, perhaps raising birthrates exclusively for whites there too, and pop transfers of reckless nonwhites out to the marches (and from there on to the… Read more »

diconez
diconez
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

if only we had kept the institutions that burned these people at the stake at some other point in time, a less (((reformed/enlightened))) time…

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Ostei: that war has in a sense commenced.
Only one side is fighting.
And it’s Black Bloc/BLM/Tribe Supremacy over us and our actual ‘ethnostate’ that’s the war being fought, and won.

abprosper
abprosper

BLM isn’t winning anything but cheap virtue signalling and bribes.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

They won? Nonsense. As our esteemed blog host notes, the Inquisition never stops. Once all the fake Hitlers are gone, the fake Himmlers and Goebbels are next. By the time OyTube does that… the only people left will be the greasy hipsters, the frumpy lasbians and bitchy faggots and other SJW’s. They’ll go after each other at that point and the platform will collapse for lack of interest. I no longer have any leftist friends or family. The second one of those buggardly cretins opens up his mouth and gets in my face with their opinion… I get in their’s… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 months ago

Agree Glenfilthie. A decision to disengage may be tactically sound, but as a strategy it leaves us living lives merely hoping the Eye of Sauron falls on some other poor bastard.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Maybe, just maybe, we may look back at these times as the death gasp of liberalism and commies in America. They are acting deranged and speaking incoherently, not the stuff of a strong ruling class destined to last much longer.
Even if so, doesn’t mean our side just steps up to fill the void.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  David Wright
3 months ago

That certainly seems to be the case. I think the same. Something about all of this has a faddish quality. But those hippies never let their fads die even as they became caricatures of themsleves. Hard to say what comes next. But I think there will be a few surprises, as there always are. If a war breaks out and all of these morons are sent off to fight, antifa, every Mexican illegal and Somalian are told to boot up. What then? Maybe 90% of them leave and never come back. They aren’t going to fight a white’s man war… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

One small saving grace of CWII will be that a lot of immigrants will self-deport, perhaps in considerable haste. My neighborhood is infested with Indian tech workers. They’ve been looking a bit nervous lately and for my part I try to encourage that. I never smiled at them or talked to them but my scowl is deeper now. Most of them are extremely superficial materialists who are basically only here because they want a Mercedes, a big screen, and 20 different Apple gadgets. To them America was just a well-roofied sorority girl at an endless frat party. All this BLM… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

Pozymandias – brilliant metaphor (To them America was just a well-roofied sorority girl at an endless frat party). I’m so stealing that.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

The war is over for America – we’re not getting it back.

But even surviving is going to require White community and solidarity, and as I said below, that’s not illegal and it’s not possible to outlaw White association entirely.

White survivors need to start working on building After America now. Sheltering in place just leaves us more scattered and vulnerable to being mopped up piecemeal.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

It’s not possible to outlaw white associations entirely. But it is also not necessary. They are, for all intents and purposes already illegal.
Until whites are ready and willing to take their own sides, it’s just going to get worse from here.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 months ago

Of course its possible to outlaw white associations.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tremain
3 months ago

True. In tyrannies, the government can do whatever it dam’ well pleases.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Unfortunately, the Branch covtardians are swelling the ranks of the religious. The number of people – some who I thought were “normal” – who are convinced that this is the 21st century’s Black Death is unbelievable. And there’s nothing you can say that’ll change their minds. Oh, and if you’re not wearing a mask, you might as well be a murderer.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

Couldn’t agree more. I’m highly disturbed by the number of guys I thought were solid, sober people that are acting like the Beer flu hoax is the second Plague of Justinian.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

One outcome is I can’t take a word Steve Sailer says seriously anymore

He lost all credibility, although I will still sometimes read and enjoy his work on a superficial level like admiring a movie poster while in line buying popcorn

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

I found myself drifting back to Sailer.

Thankfully most of the Corona-tards are gone.

Thinking about leaving again because Boomerposters there are posting some painfully bad takes on Architecture, which is known to be one of the most pozzed up fields going.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

Sailer is a curiosity at this point for me. He’s actually a neighbor down the street, but I don’t know him. But if I do run into him I will razz him for being so wrong 😉

Poke646,0
Poke646,0
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

Yes, the Sailer Covid reaction was snd is still shocking to me. So many otherwise smart people who, for some reason, can not think thru corrupted authority….they won’t do some basic math…understand the implications of a growing denominator…it’s just surreal. I’ve had people get PISSED off at me for trying to work through the cdcs own corrupt F ing numbers. Some sort of programming happened where if you say the word “flu” in the same sentence as Covid (you know, for context), you will get anger and derision that makes it apparent this is now in the realm of religion.… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 months ago

Sailer is old and sickly and has no religion., Everything scares him.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

Its been a long time since we’ve had a nasty plague outbreak and with antibiotics and such, we thought we were immune to such.
Nonsense of course.
Also its appears strongly to be a man made disease of foreign origin which would scare the willies out of anyone.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

A healthy-looking young lady literally jumped out of the elevator when I entered without a mask. Her eyes were burning with rage as the doors closed. I broke into open laughter.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 months ago

Good for you! Great pleasure picturing you triggering off wahmyn Karen. Yes, the ruling overlords have figured out that everyone wearing a mask is our humiliation and total obedience. Keep the masses scared, weak and cowed. And wearing the symbol of their own cowardliness. Each time I am forced to mask to enter a business, I utter a feral growl, bitch loudly and glare around me with ferocity at the pathetic sheeple. They back off.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 months ago

When you leave said business, make sure to properly dispose of the mask on their floor, because fuck them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 months ago

I hope you do not end up in the hospital with a severe case of COVID-19. But if you do, I suspect your feelings about mask wearing will be different. Wear one or don’t as you wish, but like it or not, there are risks to you (and to others, if you’re sick and don’t know it.)

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

Unless you’re particularly vulnerable to COVID, your chances of dying from it are somewhere between dying in a car crash and dying from a lightning strike.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

I have a healthy 40 something friend who got it and it’s really miserable. And the after effects last months. It’s a good and civil thing to wear a mask in an elevator.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Frip
3 months ago

The 20-year-old son of a very close friend came down with it. He was very fatigued for a while, but that was the worst of it. Now he’s just fine. And, at any rate, if you’re not symptomatic, it appears as thought you’re not contagious. If I had symptoms, I’d simply stay home, which is exactly what I’d do if I had the flu.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Frip
3 months ago

There are reputable sources suggesting that COVID is chronic in susceptible individuals. Long-term lung damage has been observed in some asymptomatic people. I am not a mask wearer myself; however, it seems to be more dangerous than I once thought.
If the Chinese were fucking around with this shit, who knows what it’ll actually do? Yes, masks are gay and may do less than nothing. But optics are irrelevant to the potential destructiveness of the virus. It will take years before we even understand the scope of what has been done.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Frip
3 months ago

I too know some one who got a cold. It was terrible. Its a good a civil thing to force the entire population to wear a mask so he does not suffer again.

Dave O'Connell
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

test

Carrie
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 months ago

Thanks ChicagoRodent, for sharing.
What an excellent story. And inspiring!

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

They seem to want to extend this covid thing to near permanence. The number of headlines I’ve seen talking about, “Our New Normal” is ridiculous.

Well, if things continue down the ever spicier road… maybe mass masking isn’t the worst thing in the world for us.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

By the logic of the new normal, masks and shutdowns will be implemented with every flu season. Then too, to speak of logic and the new normal may be a pointless enterprise.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Apropos to Zman’s post today; Stephan Molyneux was always going on about logic. That time has passed. We are entering the time of War to the Knife, I think. So be it. Let’s put aside the finer civilized things that only hinder us at this stage. Harden our hearts. Look to use every advantage those that hate us inadvertently provide us.

I hope I am wrong and cooler heads will prevail, but in human history, how often does that occur?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

That’s the problem with using science, logic or other rational argument with our ideological foes. The prevailing attitudes are magical, quasi-religious. As such, they are not swayed by reason. They won’t give up what they believe in, or they’ll change it. You’ve got to admire the Left’s power of imagination. If it turns out that Blacks, given the same opportunies as Whites, still do poorly, then Liberals will agitate for equality of outcome. Too many Blacks being arrested? Just stop arresting them! Brilliant! Even if everybody is pulled down to the same level, or the test is watered down until… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

The only way blacks and whites are equal is when we’re both dead.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

You’re probably right, PE. The AWRs are clearly spoiling for a fight. And it’s a fight they will lose badly.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Um, you might want to check new infection statistics. Unlike the flu, the COVID-19 does perfectly well in warm, humid summer weather, when school is out, in fact many activities have been restricted for four months, thank you very much. I’m probably just too much of a collaborator 🙂 but I suspect that current precautions (masks etc.) are going to be with us for years. The pandemic will eventually run its course, but not when only 6% of the population has been exposed. Nor when the next mutation comes, if… 🙁

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

So how does it run its course when everyone is wearing masks, social distancing or hiding under their beds? At some point, we’re all going to have to nut up, get on with our lives and realize that 99+% of those infected recover.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

Except we’re not going to realize that. This was probably created as a bioweapon, and that changes everything. We have no clue what the ramifications will be in the long run.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lanky
3 months ago

Oh well. We need to punish the responsible parties and move on.
The choice in less than a month, 28 days or so will start to be “nut up” , “welfare state” or mass starvation and homelessness
Roughly half of people of working age have no income. The only way other than mass money printing so to open up and that means no half assing it, no masks, no nothing.
Otherwise your best case scenario is ultra woke FDR.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

The contagion rate is higher than the flu, but the death rate now appears to be lower. And it is the latter number that is far more important.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

Its probably better to just let everyone get infected and be done with it. The reason we won’t is the US is unable to allocate resources effectively and its so bad that a nasty flu season much less a double nasty like COVID could cause a complete collapse of the hospital system. And there is no way to fix it, the US is too deep in finance as economy and corrupt. Nothing for the most part can be repaired although Apple and Intel to their credit are trying to bring microprocessor manufacture here from Taiwan. This is good as if… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

I like masks.

Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

Saw some wammen talking on a news video about how we need to make “no mask, no service” just as widespread as “no shirt, no shoes, no service”. You could just tell from her voice that she WANTED and CRAVED this the way she wanted and craved Chad’s dick. It took me about 3 microseconds to realize, as soon as maskinsanity started, that there was no way our ruling class would ever let go of it. It would become institutionalized the way all the airport security was after 9/11. Right now, the media screamers have successfully launched the “second wave”… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

Pozymandius, I know someone who is left of center politically and trained as a medical responder. Very science minded and despises the mask wearing for its ineffectiveness as the “cat is already out of the bag and isn’t that scary of a cat anyway.” He told me a woman screamed at him in a parking lot because he wasn’t masked and clearly a “Stupid Trump-lover and if (he) hates science so much he should just die!” He is lifelong Democrat and was stupefied that he was cast in the role. Funny thing is, it has become a political uniform people… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

Penitent Man – Excellent point. Just as skin color is one’s uniform, so too has mask wearing (or not) become another overt sign of which side one is on. Intellectually I understand the point of staying under the radar, but I will NOT wear a mask, just as I will not kneel.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

Don’t you love how the Dems are “the party of science.” See how well that works if you suggest they apply the scietific method to studies of the races, or of statistics or sociology to the indices of misbehavior of various ethnic groups 🙂

vmax71
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

wearing masks everywhere will have a lot of unintended effects that the Lefties will NOT like. Large gatherings in places like movie theaters/sporting arenas are currently the province of the Left. They will not exist with this mask thing.
This is actually one reason why I am all for continuing with this mask nonsense

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  vmax71
3 months ago

I guess if everyone is masked, no one is masked.
Its also made areas that were formerly safe, unsafe.
Fior the first time ever in Nor Cal there was a violent takeover robbery of a Costco by what I am told a very disciplined crew able to deactivate the 9-11 system and cell phones alike.
Surprising it was the Oakland Crowd as well.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  vmax71
3 months ago

Go wear one in Bombay then, with your compatriots.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  vmax71
3 months ago

Sports-ball too will suffer immensely

Woo hoo !!!

Gonna laugh when all those NBA turds are crying about being broke

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  vmax71
3 months ago

I’m unclear on why mask-wearing will have effects the Left won’t like. Explain please? The examples you cite have indeed been pozzed by the Left, but on the contrary, I don’t think those establishments you’ve described will be able to re-open without required mask wearing, for health reasons, not political ideology.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

As long as the fear is king and everyone must stay masked, people will not go to events or will go much less. Sporting events won’t happen, ballet anything where people gather in numbers will suffer. Also with social distancing , even when open there is much less money to be had. No one will go the cinema, pay $25 bucks for the latest block buster to sit in a room suffocating in a mask. They’ll watch at home if at all. The same applies to schools, colleges and the like. Take on a ton of debt to sit like… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vmax71
3 months ago

One possible good side effect of the Korona Krackdown is that the cancellation of sporting events may finally make white men realize they don’t have to spend day after day worshiping black athletes. And distancing from black athletes could attenuate the ancillary affection for blacks that that worship seemingly engenders.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

Yes, I concur that more testing = more cases. Even Yahoo news said so (liberal media, I assume). I do believe that masks reduce transmission. I am not sure that they should be 100% mandatory, but “yes probably” in public areas where people of necessity must crowd and/or be inside with poor air circulation. At some point public health becomes a priority over individual dress code.

Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

The same argument could be made every flu season though. The tradeoff is always between freedom and “safety”, or really between freedom and some illusion of safety provided by government. I’d also like to point out that the case for the masks providing any public benefit was never made to begin with and has grown weaker over time. The people who started this panic have been consistently wrong about virtually everything from the start. They’ve made numerous predictions of deaths and caseloads that have failed many times. There’s no more reason to listen to them now than there is to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

Just when you think people can’t get any stupider…

Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

I think you were talking about otherwise secular people becoming “religious” about C19 but there’s also the effect on the actual Christian churches. Christianity, especially American fundamentalism, does have an element of apocalypticism to it. The book of Revelation sometimes seems to get as much attention as all the other books combined. It also tends to prey upon minister to people in times of personal crisis, thus there’s a temptation to embrace the Coronapocalypse narrative to bring people into church who would never have given it any thought before. It’s a great, um “witnessing tool”. I’m personally familiar with two… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

If fervent and faithful could only attend – masks mandatory!

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

There has been a huge growth in the youngyoung-adult oriented “evangelical” churches. You know the type: rock band, blue lights, hands in the air. I’ve attended a few with family, and they all just seem like feel good affiliation fests.

With most of them coming out as pro-immigration and pro-BLM, it seems we’re seeing the actual goal of what Vox Day calls “Churchianity”.

Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 months ago

Back in the 90s I attended one of those megachurches for a while. They had a large high-tech auditorium, rock band, the whole works. There were already some elements of poz. The pastor talked about “brokenness” instead of sin. There was still a lot of “culture war” rhetoric though and the understanding that the culture had been taken over by some pretty evil people even then. Nowadays, Jesus is just another gay Canadian Communist of course. Well, evangelicalism has always been a business first and religion maybe 5th. It’s harder for the faux-Christian propagandists these days though because they need… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

I had a college professor who was a dissident in the Shah’s Iran in the 70’s. He had a saying that has always stuck in my head:

”Whenever three are gathered, you can be sure one is a SAVAK agent.”

Forming any sort of explicitly (or even too on the nose implicitly) White organization sounds like a great way to get Waco’d.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

There is no way to flex social muscle without social bonds. You can’t form those online.

We can’t physically defend our people, raise our kids or otherwise survive as atomized nuclear families or individuals.

Avoiding all group cohesion and common action is suicidal.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

You don’t think our enemy knows the importance of social bonds? You don’t think they’ll place an emphasis on targeting those?

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

I think they’re targeting them already in this thread.

Let’s see how many more Eeyores show up to agree & amplify.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

No one who met online should meet in person or exchange information. At the risk of ah being denounced go however to the Sportsmen’s club, or form some sort of mannerbund associations. You don’t want to go through a Continental sized Spanish Civil War alone.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

So what do you propose we do? Join hands and walk out in front of traffic?

Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Of course they do. It’s why they maintain social bonds themselves through private clubs, synagogues, elite universities, etc… Exile is right (dammit, why can I still not upvote!!!???). At some point, people need to take those first steps outside. I don’t know exactly how to start it but we must start. Otherwise we might as well just stop reading and thinking about these things and take up knitting. There’s no need to be bull headed about it of course. Organizing should always be done in awareness of the deep state and the tech state with appropriate diversions and decoy actions.… Read more »

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
3 months ago

Since I can’t upvote, I will say “hear, hear!” With you all the way. We have not yet begun to fight. (But we are pretty close I think.)

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 months ago

the vote is working again. i’ve been going nuts with it. didn’t realize how much i would miss it.

Member
Reply to  SidVic
3 months ago

Sadly, it’s not working yet. I just tried it with your comment.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

You beat me to it. Cowering alone in fear of the Almighty and Omnipotent AWRs is the very worst thing we can do. What we must do is organize, come what may.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Yeah you do that.

As for myself, I plan on not being guillotined and living to see what comes after.

Maybe you’ll be in the same group to visit the National Razor as Christopher Cantwell and James Mason.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Meme, I am disappointed with you. You have a good mind, I’ve enjoyed reading many of your ideas over time. I think you know where I stand. I do not relish the idea of conflict, I do not think it’ll be easy or fun, I am not blinded by hate of others, nor do I think it is completely unavoidable. But I do know we eventually have to stand or we will be forced to kneel. You’ve migrated over time from sensible thoughts on graying oneself and looking before leaping… to hunker and hope to be eaten last with perhaps… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

Penitent-

All I am saying is the following:

1) acknowledge reality
2) don’t do stupid, suicidal shit

We are an occupied people. We are slated for extermination. We survive when our occupier destroys himself first.

There is no pleasant way out of this. If certain opportunities present themselves to drive up the cost of occupation, we should do so, but surviving what’s coming should be the top priority. I’m not saying don’t resist, but understand that collective punishment is going to be the consequence for so doing.

Be safe. Be smart. May your presence go unnoticed by the Balrog.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Meme,

That’s more sensible and for the most part I agree, and strikes a tone you haven’t had of late. Gandalf eventually stood against the Balrog to go with your analogy. I’m a former paratrooper. Like the old adage goes,

“You know you are going to be surrounded, right?”

We’re paratroopers, Son. We’re supposed to be surrounded.”

Sometimes you have to welcome and relish the suck.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 months ago

I’m also certain that, as a former paratrooper, there are times when standing and fighting will just get you killed for no reason and that the best thing to do is fall back to a more defensible position.

Further, the means by which you fall back will weigh heavily on how many of your men survive.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

hysteria. one should be prudent, of course. but a defensive crouch doesn’t win the brass ring. 90% of the world is descended form people that didn’t make it 100 miles from their village. Our ancestors traveled 1000s of miles and conquered a forested continent filled with savages. Buck up man.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

You’re really invested in scaring everyone away from forming actual groups of White men, Meme. Why are you so concerned?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Why are you so invested in an obviously suicidal tactic?

PDW
PDW
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

How many white kids were doxxed and ruined after Charlottesville? We should take that as a lesson. Organizing isn’t as easy as it seems.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

What comes later is like what’s going on now. But worse. Far, far worse. I’ll take my chances with the guillotine.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Talk on the net, organize locally in person. Do not mix the two. Then … Perchance…. Network. Network said fishing clubs, or whatever you call them. Network the small groups. This will happen later, and frankly will probably happen naturally, as it has been for the last generation or more. Networks are how atomized entities transact, the principles that guide all networks guide human ones. *multiple paths of communication for survivability if ‘links’ go down (that’s how the internet and telco’s route around breaks in the network) *if disrupted Regenerate around existing ‘nodes’ [people, groups] *limit exposure to the bare… Read more »

Goetz
Goetz
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 months ago

Sorry, what’s an AWR?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Goetz
3 months ago

An anti-white racist, i.e. a “liberal.”

Dave
Dave
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

A mush simpler path is for white people to start moving to already overwhelmingly white states, whether that be Wyoming, Idaho or the Dakotas, or states like New Hampshire and Maine. Vermont, though containing a fair share of goofball hippies, is still nearly all white, and there is a lot of empty space there. Even the North Country in far upstate New York, on the border of Quebec, is very white and very rural, with a lot of gorgeous land available. This can’t just be something that is talked about. People who live in diverse cities or states need to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dave
3 months ago

Agreed. If the purpose of such demographic movement is to create partitionist organizations in those areas.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Dave
3 months ago

Its fine in Western NY too, certainly Binghamton West. Really west of the Hudson valley will be fine. Even Western NJ or Eastern PA is fine, just get out of the cities. Tell HR you have COVID vulnerable family members in house and need to move. They’ll say yes, what else to do? If you’re in the hands on trades I suppose its not so easy, but its better than being dead.

PDW
PDW

Those are all blue states, or will be after 2020. It’s better to move to a red state where you can exercise political power and not be oppressed by the left. The ultimate goal should be to have the state secede, which probably isn’t possible in a blue state. That’s the only permanent solution.

Lady Dandy Doodle
Lady Dandy Doodle
Reply to  Dave
3 months ago

This. I am praying CV shuts down my pozzed urban hellhole on its second wave, so that my husband’s job goes remote for good. If this happens we are moving to Maine pronto. If you are looking, Washington County boasts amazing coastline at a fraction of the price.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dave
3 months ago

Rather cold winters up yonder, Ayuh 😀

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

Orcs don’t like cold weather. Bugs don’t like the country. We do well in both.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Dave
3 months ago

Dave, you’re thinking like a dissident. Good to see. Look at the redder parts of Maine & New Hampshire if you’re interested in New England.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Learning to screen out plants and know who to trust is part and parcel of life.
Meat space, well known and trusted friends only. Many a biker gang and criminal enterprise thrives there despite Feds, so can we.
This step is not optional as the open Internet is easy to watch.
Most important if you can’t take the risk, you lose without a fight.
Also as fearsome as SAVAK was, the Shah was overthrown by a bunch of college kids despite massive US efforts.
He was lucky to escape alive.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

The Shah didn’t fall because of the CIA.
He fell because of MIT.
MIT had all these wonderful technocratic ideas for Iran!
The phrase Massachusettritti was common form of Iranian contempt for these strange eggheads running around, just as we have contempt for our idiots with degrees now.

Go and look..it’s hidden history but true.

grey seal
grey seal
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

And yet the shah was overthrown.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  grey seal
3 months ago

By men who lived abroad

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

By college kids and clergy with a little outside help.
The Shah FWIW had the US backing him.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Also known as Mi6 and the French Intelligence service.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

I know. It’s tough. Part of me wants to try to maybe get something going via the internet, such as a meet up group, but it’s just not a smart thing to do. Which is why Z makes so much sense when he says to organize though meet ups at things like the AmRen conference, but perhaps even there you have some plants.

Our side just has to find a way to truly get to know each other through friends and family and cut out any dubious people.

Tsarist
Tsarist
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

We should do everything in our power to sabotage their empire’s interests. We should promote anti-war causes, UBI, minimum wage increases, and tax increases on the wealthy among other issues; anything to hurt their interests even if we would have opposed it on principle a few years ago. The POC left will pick up these arguments and amplify them. We should also encourage other countries to kick out U.S. troops and abrogate defense alliances. Namely, Japan and the European countries. We can still legally do this through online activism. Maybe write an article on the subject and filter it through… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tsarist
3 months ago

You want to throw sand in the Empire’s gears?

Push for as much diversity as possible in the defense industry’s STEM spaces.

The vast crowd of high quality diversity engineers exists in the same sense as a herd of unicorns.

The entire industry is scrambling to find replacements for the early and mid-Boomers that are starting to retire.

They are in deep shit when the late Boomers and Xers start to leave the industry.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

This is why I can’t get too worked up over the military’s big diversity hires and promotions. Once some third world hot-head sinks a ship or brings down a $200 million dollar plane because Sky Marshall Kunta Kinte and Captain Karen don’t know their “port” from their “aft” the book will be closed on a lot of ills.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 months ago

The previous incidents have already been memory holed, haven’t they? What makes you think this will be any different?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  BadThinker
3 months ago

The costs were still inflicted.
My guess is as soon as the US looks weak enough, the Chinese will pounce and the microchips and such that we get from Taiwan will no longer be available at any price.
Between that and our infrastructural decay, the US will go Brazil and enterprising sorts may make of it what they will.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 months ago

What do you mean when?
did you miss all those naval collisions? Females at the Conn.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 months ago

Dont for a second confuse the proposition that “we’ll never replace the Arleigh-Burkes” with the question of, can that Commissar of Color put you in a ditch.
People in Congo with an IQ below room temperature and handmade machhetes killed 200,000+ of their enemies in a few years. Their more intelligent cousins in charge of us.mil have Reapers and SAWs. They dont need spaceships to get into low orbit, they need the m19 against your temple to go “bang.” As shown in Chicongo every weekend, the Jogging Community has that technology down pat.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 months ago

I don’t fear the Reaper and neither should you.
We are nearly as well armed as they are already and can rather easily acquire heavier stuff as needed.
Ultimately if we can’t pull of a Hail Mary Play and save this festering hulk of a republic, there will unpleasant consequences and you will be fighting and killing in meat space.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

But they are organized.
WE don’t actually exist, although I hope you have a We.
But WE do not exist..we are large number of well armed *individuals* and if you’re not getting a crew, the hour is later than you think.

abprosper
abprosper

The Dissident Right being a social network though can feel alienating especially as a fair number of us live in or near the bug hive. However a great many of us are organized to a degree, just not for offensive action. Cities in Oregon and Ohio have put over a thousand armed men on the ground against outside troublemakers. There are also militias, friend circles,extended families churches, biker gangs , gun clubs and tons of other associations. The difference is we are not as if yet taking the offense. Still you can never have too many armed like minded friends… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

All good news absprosper.
Thanks for the Whitepill.

As for the transition from defense to offense…well…ah…let them come to us.
Even The Corsican said a sound campaign consists of a well thought out defense followed by the offense.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 months ago

upvote, but they’ll have to learn for themselves.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 months ago

Their cousins can’t do maintenance, troubleshoot, repair, research, design, or development.

Those are why YT stands apart from all others.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tsarist
3 months ago

We should do everything in our power to sabotage their empire’s interests. We should promote anti-war causes, UBI, minimum wage increases, and tax increases on the wealthy among other issues. And in particular, we need to take environmentalism back from them. Not only for tactical reasons but because if we don’t, this planet is fucked. Watermelons (green on the outside, red on the inside) seem hellbent on destroying every last vestige of unspoilt nature, either paving it over with solar panels or razing it to grow wood chips or ethanol. Between the boycott of Golden Rice, DDT for malaria campaigns,… Read more »

Jack Rabbit
Jack Rabbit
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

A-freaking-men

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Rabbit
3 months ago

Must disagree. The White European has an unmatched record for exploiting the planet. Largely because of technology. Greed plays a huge role. Post colonial, our dusky cousins have appropriated the technology and show even greater promise in turning grassland into desert, rainforests into hard pack (“We needed the trees for firewood.”). But give the White man some credit: we did set aside a few national parks!

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

But give the White man some credit: we did set aside a few national parks!

In most white countries – and in white countries alone – forested areas are increasing and wildlife is coming back. Greenpeacers are trying to reverse this trend by replacing coal with woodchips in power plants, but the nuclear lobby is going from strength to strength these days.

If we don’t act, Africa will be desert from Algiers to Cape Town within the next 100 years, every animal bigger than a locust eaten, every tree chopped down.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

The Goths and their allies repaired back to the northeastern corner of the Iberian Peninsula to reorganize . It took them 750 years or so to retake it – in the end they drove the Blackamoors out. 

The Eastern Europeans suffered under Tartary and the Turks for hundreds of years but they eventually drove both out of Eastern Europe and the Balkan Peninsula. 

The White man is always outnumbered. When we get permission to fight all bets are off. Our goal should not be limited to self-determination on reservations granted by non-Whites. 

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Lurker
3 months ago

Agreed. We just need to give ourselves permission, which as simple as it sounds, seems almost an insurmountable obstacle in these times.
The only people holding us back are ourselves and our own gullibility.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Lurker
3 months ago

*northwestern – my bad !

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

whites congragating & forming their own insular communities is their only viable solution at the moment, this way they can become self sufficient same as Orania & not be dependent on communist ran state.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Although I’m utterly blackpilled, I know and hope for the completely unanticipated and unrecognized event that throws all up in the air. Other than an event which is unseen, unplanned and we’re unprepared, there’s no going back, old game over. I am particularly disgusted and blackpilled with women. Basic Husband proclaimed 3 years ago that until men refuse to fix wahmyn cars and quit fixing their shit, women will continue to be bitches. Expanding that concept, I believe women won’t turn back to being wives and mothers until there’s a collapse. Women will have to go hungry, be scared and… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 months ago

I’ve never liked most women, but of late I have truly come to loathe the Karens. Anti-White slur that it is, it so perfectly encapsulates their bloody-minded nanny-state idiocy. Just going through the grocery store and listening to them in passing – they are almost without exception utterly empty vessels. No rational or independent thoughts, just empty chatter (behind their safespace masks, of course). They need their comeuppance.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 months ago

Back in the noughties, I was at a dinner party with a lot of young professionals, mostly lawyers, a heavy preponderance of feminists and a lot of dismissive jokes about men. So one girl – hands down the pretties of the lot – is a chemical engineer, working a ham & egger-job at a medico subcontractor, making repositories. The lawgals give her a lot of grief for being an engineer, which is to say, for being pretty. “So why did you become an engineer”, one of them asks her, in a tone of “what went wrong?” Deadpan: “I hate working… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

Ah. The proverbial fecal remnant in the punch bowl…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 months ago

RFF, the greatest thing you and other women can do for Our Thing is to get your fellow women to be Good Wives and Good Mothers with sizable families.
Once they do that, they will either join or stay out of our way.
Get one and you are a soldier, get many and you are damned heroine and will accomplish as much if not more than most of the men on the front lines.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Yep, we are in long-term survival mode. And I like it. It means I don’t have to engage in the idiocy of modern and current day “America”

Fuck it. Not my country, not my problems.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Have to agree with you … the CV hoax and the rioting showed that TPTB can get away with almost anything at anytime that they want. During this time (past 3 months?), normal Whites have been super-angry, but there’s been almost zero resistance. Even Trump went radio-silent for too long (Tucker also noted this). As you say, Whites can build associations, but watch out for (((those))) that look like us, who could infiltrate these associations and blow the whistle on them. Lastly, the normal White demographic is a little too old for a revolution … I’m skeptical that we have… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Not really. The key is to not lose sight of the objective of the war. Lee made the error of not taking Washington’s lesson to heart. The army simply had to exist, using the advantage of interior lines of supply and familiar ground. Instead he made the mistake of invading the North and other offensive operations and bled his army dry. And remember, all action in economics happens at the margin. Drop Twitters activity and user base 10-15% and they have a problem. Same for FB. Growth and information harvesting drives these businesses. Take it away, the future gets dicey.… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 months ago

Their sort of fanaticism demands a constant supply of enemies to identify and roast. If we do not fill that role in the play, they will take down their own to fulfill their mission. “Let’s you and him fight it out”.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Dutch
3 months ago

They already are. Witness DeBlasio–best friend they could have…but he’s refused to disband the NYPD entirely so the left is trying to create a new CHOP outside city hall. And in a month, criminals are putting up numbers that give Chiraq a run for their money in the league tables. People are starting to notice.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 months ago

Lee had an army. We do not. Nor do we have an island to flee to, as Chaing Kai Shek did.

Our future existence will likely be a fusion of the Vendee and Fight Club.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

Valar Morghulis If you die, your problems are over. Anyway, you may not have an island but many a street gang much less a movement has made no go zones. Its not that hard. And no we aren’t really outnumbered. Most non Whites don’t want this bullshit either and internal conflicts on the other side will do more damage than we will anyway. The trick though is getting past the desperate sense of “we need to fight or flee” and into “We need to take power for our ends.” “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
3 months ago

We can start with: we want to live, and not as slaves.

abprosper
abprosper

We already are slaves to the grid. Civilization essentially is slavery as once it is in place past a certain scale, the only true organized freedom that of blood, honor and reciprocal obligation goes away. We aren’t that far out from an age of barbarism but none of us will last that long alas. As for now, what you want is not freedom, we have too much of that already but to live by your own traditions. This is the underlying story of Braveheart . Longshanks was an capable king for the English but he wasn’t a Scot and would… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 months ago

Very true.
what army?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 months ago

If what I hear is true, Facebook is mostly Normie already . Its #1 guy is Ben Shapiro !

diconez
diconez
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

except, the Bourbons came back more cucked than ever. they hadn’t done anything but hide and wait to be returned; ergo, when they returned, the Spanish managerials set up a cucked multiculti democracy, cutting off the monarchy and traditionalism. only now due to the Muslim threat has a real rightwing reaction arisen in the Vox party, and even then they are a bit civnat at times (though definitely more based than the neocon Popular Party, and dare i say grounded too). which is why i slightly disagree with this editorial. yes, we can’t just go charlottesville dumb into traps all… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 months ago

>  In reality, he was selected because YouTube has run out of popular heretics. They have so broken their site that even heretics are losing interest in it.
If you want to know how broken Youtube is, adagmator’s Chess Channel recently had a video taken down for hate speech.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 months ago

“Black” and “White” pieces be racist

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 months ago

You think you’re kidding, don’t you? I don’t remember the details, but a few years back, chess was pronounced racist because white moves first.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

Heh. The new normal, indeed.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 months ago

Bobby Fisher was pretty woke on the JQ, FWIW

Epaminondas
Member
3 months ago

It’s going to require a lot more than dissident videos and clever repartee to remove the weight of radical Kulturkampf which weighs us down. At some point, we’re going to demand a leader with a lot more willingness to bite rather than bark. And that time is rapidly approaching. The Uniparty is corrupt to the core. And as I postulated a few weeks ago, Trump is not dumb enough to walk into a leftist trap like Charlottesville. Leftists trapped themselves this time by unleashing dogs they can no longer control. (Thank you, Minneapolis. You people are dumber than I originally… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 months ago

The recent confrontation in St. Louis between the rich lawyers with guns and their trespassing vibrant pets is a good example of breakdown in the Left’s high-low coalition.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

Tucker did a segment on them last night. The law is actually going after them. There is no end to the insanity. If white people do not wake up very soon, even a fragmented solution will not be viable.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 months ago

And apparently a guy that does pro-bono police brutality cases funded by his personal injury practice. And now finding out that despite likely having done more “social justice” work than that entire mob, it’s no inoculation. That is good for our side.

waitingForTheStorm
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 months ago

The news this morning has been that the protesters are being investigated for “assault by intimidation” and that the homeowners are not going to be charged. Where I live, the actions of the homeowner could likely have been interpreted as assault by brandishing. Be careful and understand the laws where you live.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 months ago

Not surprised by that at all.

Castle Doctrine is null and void for any white who dares threaten a holy negro, doesn’t matter how much that white is worth.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

They’re connected rich lawyers, they won’t get charged.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout

That won’t always get you off:
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/06/15/alamosa-attorney-james-marshall-attempted-murder-shooting-danny-pruit-protest/
A similar incident occurred today in Utah, a driver was shot, but unlikely a shyster.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 months ago

They may indeed get charged. Which is win/win for us. Those are SJW lawyers, pro-bono. Living in a palatial mansion paid for by our insane insurance premiums, mostly in health care insurance. If they get charged that’s not Jethro getting what’s coming to him! That’s one of the ELECT. If they get charged were closer to goal, sooner or later the Social Democrats are going to scream for the Freikorps or equivalent. See 1919 Germany. > and like them we’ve lost a war and demobilized a lot of angry, betrayed men… …formerly known as…. The Police. And probably more than… Read more »

Owen Glendower
Owen Glendower
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

True in a lot of places. I live in what is still a deep-red state (slowly going purple due to legal and illegal immigration) and our self-defense laws–both statutory and case–are solid. For now. I’ve started carrying (have CHL of course) every time I leave the house, which would invoke self-defense rather than CD. Our CD, btw, is quite strong and extends to protecting property. However, I pray I never have to use deadly force for a number of reasons. For one, regardless of the law, if I had to use deadly force to defend myself against a POC– no… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Owen Glendower
3 months ago

The father and son shooters in the Ahmaud Arbery case are sitting in prison without bail and the main “evidence” presented at their arraignment is the social media posts of one of the two which included the evil “n-word” Seriously, that is the crux of the case against them. It is open and shut self-defense. But they took (or he voluntarily turned over) his phone and the cops found these posts. Seriously, if you carry or own a gun for self defense, encrypt your phone (now) and don’t give any statements to the cops and certainly don’t give them the… Read more »

Owen Glendower
Owen Glendower
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 months ago

Yeah…I doubt this will be the most popular take but what the McMichaels did was abysmally stupid in the Current Year. Not saying it was wrong, or the way they’ve been railroaded isn’t a reprehensible abortion of justice, but they were still stupid. If this whole scenario had occurred even ten years ago, they wouldn’t be in jail right now. But it’s 2020. Carrying a long gun and actively looking for the suspected bad guy (who they knew was Black from video) to confront him was beyond dumb, given the optics. I get that their neighborhood was being targeted for… Read more »

Tsarist
Tsarist
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

We should do everything in our power to encourage it. I’m considering an undercover social media account encouraging BLM to protest wealthy guys like Jeff Bezos and demand unionization of his employees. Sure, that’s probably economic suicide for his company … but then again, that’s the point. Our side should intelligently work within the system to undermine it.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 months ago

Unlikely heroes the Mckloskeys, they’re PIP ambulance chasers, they currently have clients that are victims of police brutality and are suing the City. Probably why they freaked out, they saw their clients coming.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 months ago

Correct. The left won’t succeed because they can’t. They simply don’t have the human capital. So flawed are they, that even in nations like Russia and China… most of the leftist boilerplate had to be abandoned…

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 months ago

And if you look at the Bolshies–they had a huge intellectual lead on the mental midgets you see fronting the current unrest. It took dozens of them to do the statue work that a couple rednecks with some cable and a come-a-along could do in ten minutes.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 months ago

Wait a minute there Sir; what do you mean the Left didn’t succeed in Russia and China?
They succeeded in making 100 million people like us into road bed.
Sounds pretty successful to me.

abprosper
abprosper

You have guns, lots of guns and do not paraphrasing Solzhenitsyn here have to burn in the camps, if you are willing to accept your own demise.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 months ago

Ep, that leader is going to have to come from our ranks. No one is going to provide one for us who isn’t entirely fenced-in or outright fake. We may eventually get some rogue elites with frustrated ambitions who want to latch onto what we’ve already built. That’s a bridge to cross later. For now, all of the striving class are minding the fences and we’re left to deal with the wolves on our own. Leaders demonstrate worthiness by doing. I want to see more grassroots guys demonstrating their leadership by community organization and a willingness to take reasonable risks… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Networks are a proven solution to atomized resistance with Byzantine trust problems – that’s how the jihadi organized and survived repeated mass wipeouts. Because networks only expose the links to each other (or should only) and have multiple paths to communication with other groups. Check out John Robb’s Global Guerrillas – also check out NETWAR and the advent of Netwar by John Arquilla.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 months ago

Agreed. Try to remember that MSP had tens on thousands of “refugees” dumped on them by Obama, however. They may be complicit in not fighting the DIOS, but it’s not wholly their fault.

Sadly, they’ll “fight” the only way they know how…they’ll sell their homes and run to the suburbs. Even Californians have figured this out. But it’s only prolonging some inevitable hard, ugly choices.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 months ago

If you’re talking about Somalian refugees in Minnesota, they started arriving much earlier than the Obama years. Started in the early 90’s, peaking in 2006.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 months ago

I really think Omar got in via the DS, and that’s if she’s not a DS play. Tough to tell, she’s just being herself.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 months ago

Big Man dictator Said Barre died in 1992, and rival tribes went to war.

An educated, kind, pro-American Somali, raised here since he was two, told me the story.

Heartbreaking, what we’ll be forced to. The guy hated Omar, she is from the torturers’ tribe.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 months ago

Somali warlord and militia leader Mohammed Farah Aidid overthrew Mohammed Siad Barre in 1991. Aidid’s notoriety was amplified for his role in hijacking NGO relief food conveys and commanding the militias during the infamous Battle of Mogadishu. Aidid made a laughing stock of the UN’s HMI in Somalia and why intervention is always a bad idea. A couple of years later, the world would once again witness another disastrous and unnecessary invention, this time being in Serbia and Kosovo.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 months ago

No. They did it to themselves. Lutheran Charities are second only to the Papists in their willingness to destroy Western civilization by skimming the Immigrant scam.
Fuck them all.

Maple Curtain
Maple Curtain
3 months ago

Yes. Evil people do evil to others for psychological reasons.
Long before the Bolshies, there was the Jacobin terror…and I’m sure that we can go back through recorded history to see more of the same.
“The Left are hypocrites.”
No, they are not. As you have noted, they do not believe in their own rhetoric. That rhetoric is only a weapon to be used against the dummies on the other side.
They believe in winning.
They believe in destroying.
They believe in blood.
That is all they believe.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Maple Curtain
3 months ago

Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 months ago

The Social Media censoring is small potatoes next to us being locked out of the financial system. It’s next to impossible for people to make a living organizing for the right or creating right-wing content. New Project 2 recently had their processing stripped away by Mastercard with no recourse. Big Finance has a stranglehold on everything. Its is next to impossible to get rich guys on board with us if they risk having their assets frozen for funding us.
Unless we find a way to pay our guys, we are going to have to wait until the banks collapse.

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

Z-Man’s general approach as for dealing with the ruling classes makes great sense. That would include simply ignoring and avoiding the radical chic crowd on a personal level. There is no point in having a “conversation” with the fanatics.  Most of all, stay composed and do not publicly show anger. If totally trapped and confronted, perhaps carefully modulated sarcasm might help. Humor, rather than anger, is a great weapon for speaking truth to power.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  NJ Person
3 months ago

Or Deadstare. The Dead Stare works too.
Jesse La Frond is right about that.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  NJ Person
3 months ago

There’s a book about what works.
https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Obedience-Discourse-Voluntary-Servitude-ebook/dp/B005FZ2L5W/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=etienne+de+la+boetie&qid=1593558416&sr=8-4

Of course, you wouldn’t want that one. It’s produced by the Mises Institute.

Jackmaninov
Jackmaninov
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 months ago

Get ye on Bitcoin, specifically BitcoinSV unless you like paying a couple bucks per transfer. Wallets like moneybutton.com have gotten easier to use than Paypal, buying small amounts with sites like buybsv.com is quick and relatively painless. I can pay people in this world instantly with a swipe. For those of us on this side of the crypto fence, watching people piss and moan about the banks is like watching people who have quit twitter laughing at those still in that melee. Like Z says, no one wants to waste time moving to a new financial system, but publicly complaining… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Jackmaninov
3 months ago

Bitcoin and other cybercurrency is a tool every dissident needs in their toolbox. There are tons of good primers for newbies out there and a lot of dissdent sites have posted their own in the past. In a nutshell, stay away from Coinbase and other frontends that want identifying information, linkage to bank accounts etc… Learn to use the truly anon methods & understand you’re going to suffer volatility risk – unless you’re willing to float that (and remember it can go up in value as well as down), don’t use it Bitcoin to store money so much as make… Read more »

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Exile
3 months ago

Requires too much infrastructure. Most of which is directly under the control of or within the reach of those being able to cut you off at short notice.

Jackmaninov
Jackmaninov
Reply to  Bilejones
3 months ago

Author doesn’t understand how cryptocurrency works. No data is encrypted, so there is no encrypted data to give lawful access to. The rest of the article is on point though.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 months ago

This is going to be key. Financial choke points are tough to get around. Unfortunately, it means laying low, staying small. Build communities of people that you trust and let TPTB destroy the system to the point that it can’t function well enough to stop anything.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

We could make it harder on them buy not self identifying.
Instead of Alt. Jargon and Dissident Clearinghouse you can DBA as Bill’s Lawnmower Sharpening Service and Balsa Wood Model Planes. Your hobby is your public contact page. To get beyond that require a bit of screening. Whatever you can do to raise their costs and efforts in screwing with you.

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 months ago

Great idea — think I may try this out.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 months ago

That is a great idea.

Carrie
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 months ago

And some folks on here have floated a similar idea with regard to Zman publishing a “collected works” Volume I of his blog postings.
(In print is most important, because in our Braver New World, everything that’s old is new again…)
If Zman entitles his first tome of collected works:
Sports in America, Vol. I …. that can easily fly under the radar.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 months ago

And that’s why the push to abolish cash.

Barnard
Barnard
3 months ago

It surprises me RamzPaul hasn’t been banned from YouTube yet. He sounds like he is well prepared for when they finally do ban him. He is effectively no different than Jared Taylor and has spoken at AmRen before.
The failure of the riots is also why they are trying to pivot back to Wuhan Flu lockdowns. Although Popular Science is claiming virus cases went down in areas that had protests and are basing that claim on cell phone data. Our new religion has performed its first miracle!

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Barnard
3 months ago

His video yesterday about Sacha Baron Cohen had an edge to it that I hadn’t seen in a while. Ramz is not long for YouTube, and he may have had his “F it” moment.

TomA
TomA
3 months ago

We have entered the fast change phase of manufactured social chaos, and the hottest months of summer are still in front of us. It should be obvious that the Left is playing for keeps, LEOs are being sidelined, and no one is minding the store in DC. The Uniparty clearly believes that more riots, crime, destruction, and mayhem is good for their self-interest, and they want the plebs to duke it out at the bottom of the pyramid. The bad actors driving this turmoil are few. Focus is the winning strategy.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 months ago

It’s all fun and games until the next riot, Tom. If it happened to me where the nogs came rampaging down my street, burning cars and throwing bricks through windows.. and there are no cops around? I’m sorry… but the M1A comes out and I am going to town on them. Riots are great fun until the other side shows up…

Pete
Pete
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 months ago

Watch how quickly the “sidelined” police show up to put you down though.

They will suddenly wake up and swoop in, the moment you harm one hair on the nappy little heads of their favored pets.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Pete
3 months ago

He should let the rioters have their way with him, his family, his property?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck

He (and everyone else here) should get out from anywhere that such a scenario is still a possibility. Staying in enemy territory when an uncivil war is breaking out is just foolhardy, and he has heard the same advice repeatedly here.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Pete
3 months ago

The other guys already have de-facto no go zones the police avoid. As things get worse and worse it won’t be that rare for us to have them as needed. Beyond that, living in fear is no way to live. Is the comfort of the rabbit warren and if you can’t get outside that, than run a rainbow flag and keep your head down. Otherwise understand that your time on this planet is limited and that it will end and using it well is all you can do. None of us want trouble but we may not be able to… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck

“The point of war is to make the OTHER sumbitch die for HIS cause.”

Whitney
Member
3 months ago

It is amazing how they have taken over every Institution. One of my relatives sent me a letter from her Prep School alma mater, the Uber Elite holton-arms in Maryland and it was just a groveling submission to Black lives matter.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

Its just another reason hope for the collapse because the withdrawal from antidepressants is supposed to be brutal and it means all the leftist people on them will be on the floor, in the fetal position, weeping uncontrollably, unable to do anything. Besides the little quiver of happiness that gives me, it will completely take them out of the game.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

We have 20% who agree with us. We just don’t have 20% willing to commit to the cause due to the danger involved. That’s actually a good thing. We’re halfway home. TPTB are going to do the rest for us. I was golfing with a friend, his son and his son’s friend. The kid and his friend were ~20. We got to talking and, like many young White men, they were surprisingly aware of the situation. They also had a vague understanding of what their future held: 40 years of groveling and working to pay for POC. They didn’t seem… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

Yeah, probably overestimated there. Five percent is likely close, but I do think that the next 15 percentage points is out there. But the mental conditioning is hard to break through.

It’s not just the propaganda. To completely wake up means realizing that everything you grew up with, who you are to a degree, is gone or will be gone. It’s a tough journey.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

I’ve been amazed at how many of my relatives who have lived their entire lives in the Deepest South are on Facebook virtue signaling for BLM. These are normally very conservative, Christian people, but they all have known that one lack person who wasn’t like the others. Also most of the churches are completely pozzed now, so that doesn’t help either.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 months ago

Even on our side of the Great Divide, there are still people who don’t understand why someone like myself doesn’t want the nice black couple moving into my neighborhood.

It’s a long mental journey to reach a very simple conclusion: Because they aren’t my tribe and they’re moving into my tribe’s neighborhood is bad for my tribe.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

Unfortanately, Our Tribe hasn’t been able to keep the Melanic Tribe out since about 1948, 1952, 1964, 1968, take your pick 🙁
Of course, the Rulers rarely have issues. Any poor black family, or working-class Latino village 🙂 is free to buy one of the ten-million dollar villas, or to pay $4000/month for the spiffy condo. No sir, we don’t racially discriminate here!

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

No joke. My wife, who has gradually moved right over the years, recently discovered CO. She likes the conservative noises she makes, and while I told her that’s pretty much all it is, if it hastens her move in this direction, that’s ok with me.

Carrie
Reply to  usNthem
3 months ago

What is “CO” ?
Do you mean the state of Colorado?
Please explain.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Carrie
3 months ago

Candace Owens, not Carrie Obersturmgruppenfuhrer

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Carrie
3 months ago

I you go back to the Zman post he was replying to, it becomes apparent.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

I think the number is closer to 5%

My guess is about 14.88%

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

Cheeky.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

Nice. Truth is people can switch with incredible speed.
I’ve seen a Boomer extolling her black friends back in the day go farther politically down the rabbit hole than me after a few statues were pulled down.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

5% is 10 million whites.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

Meh. If every Sheriff Clarke , Candace Owens and Colion Noir were to end up in our polity we’d be 2.6% Black , it would matter not at all. Ultimately what holds us back is a lack of goals. I get keeping certain ideas on the QT but we don’t even discuss basic policy ideas. A great place to have a family is a moral foundation but its a teaser, an elevator pitch and it won’t grow the movement And while yes they’ve been beaten in court since abortion is a sacrament to the Left as well as a demographic… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  thezman
3 months ago

Honestly Z the actual hard core progs+thugs who’d actually go farther than the local AutoZone is probably at best 6-7% of the country.
So 5% of whites – 10 million – is enough.

It’s difficult to explain if you haven’t seen it done…the number of people who will act by choice is very small, the number who lead is tiny, the number who will follow is more…
But the number of people who will say or do anything to avoid trouble is MOST.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

At the rate things are going, the “have a lot to lose” problem is going to solve itself. At some point, the web of social connections and social obligations, at the personal level, will be so jacked around, that a reordering of priorities will come about on its own. We are halfway there now.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Dutch
3 months ago

That’s my point. For young White men, the future isn’t great, even if you can get a decent job. Every day, they deal with a barrage of hate directed at them. And it’s never going to end. Naturally, some believe it, but for those that chaff at getting lectured for no reason, it’s jarring to think that this is your life for the next 40 years.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

We do not have 20%. We need 20%. We have, maybe, 10%, but they are also the most aware, worldly-wise people which is why 20% is a tough reach and a potent number. We see every day the race to define public stupidity down and the masked faces signalling their agreement.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  james wilson
3 months ago

Whether u have 20% or not, reality is the opposition has 20% determined savages backed by the elites(basically all corporations) & the police, who only arrest whites. Current situation is similar to soviet union in its beginnings. Most smallfolk who opposed the new system got killed, tortured & sent to gulags. Don’t think they had any chance of winning imo. Chances of victory are small, BUT chances of martyrdom & salvation are increasing for those who care of such things. Bad whites shouldn’t start doing anything stupid that would get arrested. For any good man whites lose, their genepool gets… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  james wilson
3 months ago

The Danish People’s Party topped out at 25% before they turned coat and sold their voters down the river. Granted, that’s with less than 10% diversity.

Tsarist
Tsarist
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 months ago

They won’t commit because we can’t offer them a viable endgame and a means of achieving it. No one will stick his head up unless we can provide a concrete goal and a plan of action to achieve it. People need something tangible to work towards, something that unifies a community of people around a common — achievable — goal. Zionists had the dream of Israel back in the 19th century, which powered much of their activism. What do we have? Seriously. How do we imagine things playing out? Personally, I like the idea of forming our own Zion —… Read more »

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  Tsarist
3 months ago

You raise a very good point — what is finally on offer from our side? Blood, toil, tears and sweat are not attractive prospects at the moment,although they may become so soon. But until war is actually declared, we need a viable target to aim for and sell.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 months ago

what is finally on offer from our side? 

That’s an easy one: a future for white children.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

Felix,
Those are only words now, and they were written by a man who died in jail. Because he thought writing and reason, and some propaganda by the deed would cause ‘an uprising’.
Truth is without any group to join people will get in the queue, even get in line to the trains without any resistance that’s effective, hell at all.

Now no Blackpill here, just organize…something…Right Handed Engineers club or better yet no name at all…
Of course you’re in Denmark I believe so likely to be spared.
We shall be spared nothing.

Felix Krull
Member

Those are only words now, and they were written by a man who died in jail. True enough, but the fact that our goals seem remote at this point, is a bit beside the point. I don’t understand the kvetching about us not having goals. We’re the guys with the compelling visions, we are the dreamers – all the regressives have to offer is more misery, more degeneracy, more suffering and more humiliation for white people. <i>Of course you’re in Denmark I believe so likely to be spared.</i> I keep my fingers crossed. Being insignificant has its perks, namely that… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

I did not call Denmark insignificant, I said you’re probably safe.

I hope you accept my apology, and please don’t put any more pictures like that up there…I will never even imply even indirectly that Denmark isn’t the center of the universe again. Ever.

Felix Krull
Member

I did not call Denmark insignificant.

No, I did – no apology needed.

When you’re from a borderline micro-nation, you’re wonderfully relived of notions of national grandeur, especially if Jante is your prophet; it’s like being seated #100 in the Olympic decathlon: there’s a lot less pressure, and if you get the bronze, there’s back-slaps and partying all round.

Doesn’t mean Denmark isn’t the center of the universe, mind you, only that nobody pays much attention to what goes on there, thank god.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 months ago

And don’t complain, at least she’s doesn’t have a Pacifier in her mouth.
That’s a real thing you know.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 months ago

Organize a small local group and see. We don’t -sorry – have a side. This isn’t a side, its a common mindset. 11 guys on a team, 9 guys playing baseball is a side. This is just a common mindset. Sorry, not trying to be a blackpill. But we don’t have a “side”. We have a common mindset. Organize a few guys, for anything. Like a football team that happens to mysteriously not be 👨🏿‍🦱. Go hunting, camping, whatever. A few beers around the campfire and some bonding. Maybe a few of those guys join the local sportsman’s club. At… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 months ago

Safety and community is what we have to offer. How I see it at least. A community where people are safe, doors unlocked, kids can play without fear, room to roam. That’s very appealing and going to be more so.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Tsarist
3 months ago

Forming our own Zion would probably work – but where?

If interplanetary travel existed, we’d be all set. But there’s no running off to the Salt Lake Valley in 2020.

PDW
PDW
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 months ago

That’s a good question, and I’m open to debate on the subject, but the important thing is to first embrace the