The Cult Of Safety

For most of human history, the focus of society was on the material side. Progress was about increasing the material wellbeing of people. In fact, political philosophy was solely focused on material well-being. The great battle in the West was over what sort of political economy would provide the most stuff for the most people. Eventually, liberal democracy won over communism. Then the debate subtly changed from material well-being to the overall safety of people. Safety is the new goal.

For example, an increasingly common thing if you work in an office is the notice that the vents will be cleaned one night. You are told to expect some disruption of your day or maybe some things will be moved around in the office. A crew comes in to clean the vents for so everyone is safe. Residential rental properties are now required in most states to have the dryer vents cleaned once a year. In some states, home owners are required to do this too. Vent cleaning is a thing now.

It is more than just a thing. It is a booming little niche business. According to one of the rapidly growing vent cleaning companies, the demand for vent cleaning is growing at close to four percent per year. They say that the increased awareness to the dangers posed by home clothes dryers is what is driving the growth. The claim is the number of accidents caused by these appliances is making people suspicious of what’s happening in those vents, so they want all the vets cleaned regularly.

Of course, This is true to a great degree. In the office space, people have come to believe that whatever is being cleaned out of those heat and air conditioning ducts is bad for the people inside the offices. Sick building syndrome is one of those things people have come to accept without question. The same is true of the dangers posed by the common household dryer. Mention this to someone and they will claim that clothes dryers cause a lot of fires every year.

Interestingly, none of this is true. According to the government, there are about 2900 dryer fires per year. There is no data on fires caused by debris or dust in the ventilation ducts of buildings. The damage resulting from those dryer fires total $35 million per year. Only about a third is caused by too much fuzz in the dryer vent, so that means it is a $12 million problem. Put another way, we have a $350 million dollar industry to solve a problem a bit less serious than bathtub drownings.

The other odd thing about the vent cleaning craze is that people don’t bother questioning it. They just assume it is a real thing. If you ask someone about the dryer vent business, they will fight you about the facts, claiming that clothes dryers have always been a menace. If you point out the facts, they get mad at you, as if you are questioning a tenant of their religion. Seemingly out of nowhere, vent cleaning has become an important part of keeping us safe.

That is the key to it. Safety has become something of a religion. After all, you can never be too safe. We know this because we are constantly being told by the mass media and our government that we can never be too safe. We spent trillions waging a crusade against Muslims because we had to be safe from terror. We are now spending trillions on Covid, so we can be safe from illness. We’re all in this together, whether we like it or not, because our safety is what matters.

This explains, in part, the bizarre over reaction we saw from our rulers over the protests in Washington. These are the high priests of the cult of safety. They live the safest of lives and depend on faith in safety for their existence. This reminder that no one can ever be truly safe, especially the rulers of a society, was like telling them that their gods are completely fake. They proved that was a lie by turning their palaces into fortified bunkers guarded by heavily armed soldiers.

An easy to miss subtext to the continued lockdowns is the claim that working at home is safer than going to the office. Children at school skin knees and bump their heads, which does not happen when schools are closed. Fewer people commuting means fewer car accidents. The annual flu has been eradicated, they claim, because everyone stays home, instead of mingling with the public. Even if our heroes defeat Covid, staying home is just safer and safer is always better.

There is an obvious problem with this. It is really hard to run a human society when everyone is locked in their pods. Some people can work at home, for sure, but most people need supervision. We are social animals and our sense of self is tied to our participation in our group. This extends to society as a whole. People in isolation from one another or isolated into little tribes lose their group identity. They begin to take on the mentality of prisoners, rather than citizens.

There are also the diminishing returns. The dryer vent business is a great example of how not to solve a problem. An iron rule of life is the solution can never be more expensive than the problem. The dryer vent issue is a great example of how the price of being safer far outweighs the value of being safer. We have long since passed the point of diminishing returns regarding safety. Since there is no limiting principle to the religion of safety, we keep trying anyway, despite the cost.

An easy to overlook angle here is the fact that these efforts to insulate ourselves from risk must fail. The dominant justification for the current arrangements is that it is making us safer. At some point, something bad happens and people will suddenly be less safe. A recession, for example. The gods of safety will be proven to be false or feckless gods. Faith depends on confirmation and nothing harms a religion like a bit of disconfirmation, which in this case is inevitable.

Then again, perhaps we have reached the point in our development that the Eloi reached in the novel Time Machine. The protagonist, having observed the Eloi, the humans of the future, noted that “strength is the outcome of need; security sets a premium on feebleness.” That is modern people. We are now too weak and feeble to question our arrangements. Instead, all that matters is the sense of safety and security, whether is real or imagined. Safety is now our god.


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Casey
Casey
3 years ago

Living here in hurricane alley I have been forced to conclude that many people, mostly women but certainly not all, simply enjoy being afraid. They carry on every year, year after year for their whole lives about the same storms that come every year and which are really not that threatening if one takes just a few very simple precautions.

There has to be some kind of dopamine rush from fear and carrying on like the world is going to end. It goes without saying the Covid is a godsend to such people.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

Dropping my kid off at school this morning, I saw one of the lady teachers wearing TWO masks overlapping.

SO IT BEGINS

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Ah, two-mask Sue!

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

My sister has worn herself down terribly with anxiety over the virus. Well, this morning she tested positive. How that happened is anyone’s guess, since she rarely leaves the house and even then wears a mask every second until she returns. Jeez, could it be true what I’ve been telling her for a year now, that masks are safety theater? Anyway, this will likely turn out to be a blessing in disguise as a week from now (currently she feels nothing terrible) she’ll be able to release all the anxiety over the possibility of catching the virus.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Well I feel bad for her. Nothing worse that your greatest fear realized. And all the worse that she feels nothing yet. Sword of Damocles dangling over her head. Every ache and pain a possible beginning of a terrible journey to the ventilator. Right now she needs a lot of philosophy, and a lot of alcohol.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

As has been mentioned on these pages, you can’t reason a person out of a position they weren’t reasoned into. I just talked to her and she has no flu/cold symptoms at all. It was stress that drove her to get tested in the first place. Probably a false positive, but I’d rather she believe she had it and recovered.

Member
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

This past year has made me think that having doctors routinely prescribe tons of benzodiazepines and barbituates to women wasn’t necessarily a bad thing.

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Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Maybe wearing a mask, being around masked ppl, makes it more likely that you will get the plague, by encouraging you to take more risks. These germs are so tiny, that they just zoom on through those hugh holes in the mask, thus giving you a false sense of protection.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

This is the ‘women crave drama, and will create it if a man doesn’t create it for her’ red pill.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  BadThinker
3 years ago

Spent the first six months of my marriage trying to fix all the drama only to realize it’s an infinity headed hydra. Now just acknowledge whatever BS is being spouted with “I’m sorry to hear that.” before doing something useful with my time.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I kinda like “bummer for you”. Might not work so well with the wife though…

B125
B125
Reply to  BadThinker
3 years ago

Women creating drama, yes.

Also, many people have no purpose in their lives. Sacrificing themselves for the cause feels good. They are finally part of some group, and something bigger.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

I should warn people here who live in the northeast that there may be a few inches of snow coming with strong winds. Get your butts moving to the grocery store now! Toilet paper first.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

We’re all gonna die!

Seriously, we are all gonna die, just sayin’.

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

sooner or later, everybody dies.
well, not everybody all at the same time..

so far.

Angarrack
Angarrack
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

I’m not gonna die.
You normies can’t make me.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

The best death is in your sleep, or immediate and unexpected. Fear of uncertainty can be worse than fear of death.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Yep, a quick heart attack, light headedness, faint, and you’re gone. Such is a blessing

Surfguy
Surfguy
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Don’t count on going out that way.

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WCiv...---...
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

We all die every night. The lights go out, few hours of nothingness, then we wake up. The only difference in dying is you don’t wake up, but you won’t notice anyway.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

No. Normally, you’re not in nothingness world when you sleep, but remain connected with your regular existence somehow. For instance, when you wake up you can normally assess quite accurately for how long you’ve slept without looking at a clock. By contrast, your absence from the world during anesthesia is something entirely different, as I recently realized when I had my first surgery in adult life, after decades (the last one before that was during puberty). There was no sense of anything, including time, between losing consciousness and waking up again. Zero. I could have been gone five minutes or… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Where I live we get one or maybe two blizzards per winter, with blizzard defined as four or more inches of snow. When one of these arctic monstrosities is predicted, the day before arrival is like Black Friday in the grocery stores. **smh**

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

A blizzard is 4+ inches of snow? By that standard, we had three straight days of blizzards last week.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Yep. Suffice it to say I don’t live in Buffalo.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

God bless Texas, and the winter downdraft from the great plains.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

But expressing fearful outrage is a form of control… You are not seeing what they believe is undoubtably the end of the world. The fearful are thus simultaneously helping us by their warnings, but accusing us too of our sloth in face of grave injury and death

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

The unbearable lightness of existing.

Humans evolved to solve problems, overcome adversity. That above all else is our killer app. But the modern world is adversity free. So people create their own drama to make life worth living. All too often in self destructive ways.

Last edited 3 years ago by Dinothedoxie
Xman
Xman
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

The Safety Cult is a direct result of the feminization of society. A masculine society of Kit Carsons, Lewis and Clarks, Daniel Boones, George Washingtons and Andrew Jacksons is full of dangers and potential loss of life and limb. But it is a society of great rewards, and tales of heroism and intrepidity and conquering fear and danger. Today we live in a society of Karens siting around the office at make-work jobs, eating themselves into Type II diabetes while posting cat pictures on Facebook. The greatest danger they face is that someone might call them a “fat bitch,” creating… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Casey
3 years ago

Gynarcho-Tyranny. As many others have posted in response when you make the really smart idea of allowing the weakest, most insecure, most emotional, most mercurial, and least rational members of your tribe not only equal voters, but rulers of your society. Well… what could go wrong?
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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

The first person that runs for national office on a platform of repealing the 19th Amendment gets my undying support. I don’t care what else xe supports, to do so would put society on an almost unstoppable course toward recovery of its senses.

That guy on the left should have his “membership” revoked. Literally.

Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Same here. Repeal of the 19th is like Frodo’s Ring. One reform to reform it all!

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

May your picture posting privileges be permanently removed 😉

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

In the inimitable words of Sir Harry Flashman, VC, KCB et al, “there’s a sight to blast your eyes!” Once seen, cannot be unseen.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

That dude.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

Boys can’t do jack squat anymore. If you take away electronics and send them outside, someone calls the cops on them for being unsupervised. We’ve had this happen twice. Once they went to retrieve our runaway dog down the street. The 2nd time they were climbing a fruit tree in an empty lot a few hundred feet down our street. What bullshit. I guess I would have been thrown in prison for what I did as a boy. My 10 year old son got thrown into the back of a cop car for climbing a fence to roll down a… Read more »

Grumpy Cat
Grumpy Cat
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

And just think, the soldiers of the PRC army were not too long ago little boys playing in ponds of toxic waste, jumping into rivers filled with pesticides and human waste to fish out something for dinner not to mention working from 4:00 AM to 10:00 PM making iPhones to KEEP OUR MINDS NUMB AND BODIES FLABBY.

Last edited 3 years ago by Grumpy Cat
whitney
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

My whole childhood would be illegal today

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Now that you mention it…ditto – and blissfully so

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

I have reflected recently that I would definitely have a juvenile record if I did half of what I did in school then, today. And the amount of crazy stuff we got up to on our own … man, it was glorious. Statistically, I died at least 40 years ago. Being rural, my kids have/had a reasonably free-range childhood. I remember the older ones telling me tales of exploring that still-in-use railroad tunnel near our house — they are definitely not supposed to go inside. My youngest daughter is very open with me that one of the things she and… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Vizzini
Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

The movie “Stand by Me” – that was a depiction of good, old fashioned, red-blooded American boyhood.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

About 10 years ago, our oldest two boys were in Cub Scouts. There was a rule that they couldn’t let their marshmallow catch on fire when roasting it because some Scout somewhere got hit in the eye with a flaming marshmallow. You will be shocked to learn that it was one of the mothers that informed the boys of this rule and enforced it.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

That stuff is like napalm.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

We used to intentionally shoot each other with pellet guns and bottle rockets – we were playing “Red Dawn” preparing for the Soviet/Communist invasion

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Yep, we used to have BB gun fights, but don’t think we didn’t apply any safety rules. Our rule was no aiming above the waist.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

We all owned the Crossman 760 Pumpmaster – up to 10 pumps for max velocity – our rule was one pump if we’re shooting at each other.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

“Safety Goggles”? What are those?

Last edited 3 years ago by ProZNoV
KGB
KGB
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

I too was a soldier in the bottle rocket wars (with report) of the early 80s. Laying them down and shooting them along the street, next to the curb, a.k.a. a “Jogger Chaser”, was also great sport.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

They used to have a firework for this very thing – called a “whistling chaser” designed to fly along the ground and explode.

Moss
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Down the road, on the tough beaches of Alabama, we had slightly more advanced weaponry, called PVC pipe guns, that allowed for precise aiming of the bottle rocket ordinance. We also had advanced Jogger Chasers, dedicated to the very application of chasing people down the street. They also contained a serious report. Looking back, I can’t believe we went to war without eye protection. Could’a put your eye out, kid.

If memory serves, instructions for hooking them up to a car starter were included on the package.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Moss
3 years ago

Absolutely – PVC pipes could be “mortars” or “RPGs” depending on how fired.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

I am not sure if I am talking about a similar thing here, but when I was about 10 me and my mates would make ‘vinegar bombs’. Sarson’s glass vinegar bottles would be half emptied and then bicarbonate of soda poured in. Quickly, the lid would be sealed. We’d then throw it up in the air and watch with joy as it exploded on the ground – showering glass everywhere. Good fun.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Yeah, we used to have a blast (literally) with fire crackers and the like. Every now and then someone would flush a cherry bomb or m80 down of the school toilets – out of commission for a few days.

Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

One of my uncles was fond of chemistry in high school. One time, he and some other aspiring Walter Whites flushed metallic sodium. Supposedly they had to replace half the pipes in the school.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Chemistry at my HS was awesome. One day we were concocting something along the lines of chlorine gas – some got out and we had to evacuate and the building!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Moss
3 years ago

I was recently shown a picture of myself and my sisters with one of them sporting a black eye where my William Tell attempt to shoot an apple off her head with my bow and arrow had failed.
She missed losing the eye by an inch.
I believe it was frowned upon.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Wow, documented evidence! That’s impressive Bile.
I’m lucky film and cameras were expensive in my day.

Grumpy Cat
Grumpy Cat
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

That’s what makes it so AWESOME! -channeling 10 year old boy.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

But they’re so good, especially between a couple of graham crackers.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

It is. And the skin on your eyelid is thin and fragile. You don’t want a burn there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

I love the smell of flaming marshmallows in the morn…

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

smells like vic…er, a burnt masrshmallow

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

some Scout somewhere got hit in the eye with a flaming marshmallow. For most lads, such a story would be thrilling to hear. Furthermore, depending on the severity of the wound quite cool. It is a story that boys can bond around – which is probably another reason it is to be frowned upon by members of Cloud World. The enforcement of this rule, probably seen as petty by most men’s (and boy’s standard has quite severe knock on effects when practiced at large in society. It seems to be generally true that innovation and discovery require a risk of… Read more »

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Where are the dads! They must have been grillin’ in the man-cave. Which, actually, doesn’t sound too safe.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

Cub Scout dens seem mainly organized by the mothers. At the age where boys can join Scouts, they are turned over to the men. When son became of age, wife came back one day from last pack meeting and tossed the paperwork for Scouts to me and said, “He’s all yours now, I’m done!” 😉

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

I survived the Great Flaming Marshmallow War of 1978 myself.

Epic, but only runup to the Great Roman Candle Conflict of 1982. What fools we were, using our time to retrench and rearm.

Truly, lucky to be alive.

Last edited 3 years ago by ProZNoV
Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Childhood was a lot of fun – I feel like my boys have missed out.

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

Just look at the warnings on virtually ANYTHING you buy. They are patently ludicrous and anyone above moron level understands this. Of course, as many have pointed out, our over lawyering in this country has played a large part in the idiocy.
On another note, but keeping in sync with the theme, we’ve also long passed the point of diminishing returns regarding jogger equality with the rest of the human race…

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Yeah people only take the safety cult business up one branch of the decision tree. For instance if they were really all that concerned with their dryer burning their house down they could just hang their clothes up to dry. It goes on and on, immigration all by itself runs counter to probably a half dozen supposed safety concerns.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Joggers have proven over and over and over, that they are incapable, as a group, to live in a society of rules.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

I bought a shotgun last week. The first ten pages of owner’s manual is just them imploring me in different languages not to shoot myself or anyone else. It even has funny diagrams of somebody standing behind a target getting blasted.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Well, if yer getting likker’d up around the target, you get what’s coming to ya’.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Listen, if my mother-in-law wants to hold my targets, who am I to argue with her?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

The safest thing for all concerned would be to repatriate the Joggers to Joggerland.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Is Joggerland pronounced with a “Y” sound?

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Is Joggerland pronounced with a “Y” sound?

It shall be so!

Milestone D
Milestone D
3 years ago

I taught a safety course for two years and it was an eye-opening experience. The principles of Risk Management make sense, if properly understood. But for most people, discussions of probability don’t register … they can only see things as binary conditions. Later, when I was captain of a ship, I would regularly excoriate my junior officers for using the verb “feel.” Besides being obviously effeminate, this was in large part a lesson from teaching the safety class … people are really bad at estimating relative risk. They over-estimate the probability of mishaps for exotic things, and under-estimate the mishap… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Milestone D
3 years ago

I was a consultant doing risk assessments for a few years. Sometimes I really had to rub the numbers in otherwise smart managers’ faces. If the likelihood of a risk occurring is 2% and the impact is $100, then the value of that risk is $2. And you cannot spend $50 to reduce the risk likelihood to 1%.

Henry Lee
Member
3 years ago

Back when I worked in an office for what used to be a telephone company, we had safety meetings monthly. Annually, we had to demonstrate to someone with no useful job how to sit in and get up from a chair and how to properly pull staples with a staple puller. I used a knife when they weren’t watching. On the other hand, when working for the power company, safety meetings and rules made a life or death difference.

Last edited 3 years ago by Henry_Lee
TomA
TomA
Reply to  Henry Lee
3 years ago

Yes, but sometimes the problem is that our species is getting demonstrably stupidier. I once participated in a “safety” training exercise because three grown men stood by and watched a fuel delivery truck overflow a tank by thousands of gallons onto the ground because the specified volume was ordered & paid for, and therefore must be transferred to the customer. And had a source of ignition been present, they would have burned down a hospital.

Henry Lee
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Reminds me of some of the people we had in system support. “If there’s a rule, follow it. If not, make one.” Mostly women. Solutions to all computer problems aren’t in the manual.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Henry Lee
3 years ago

Back when I worked in the utilities industry, any time somebody got injured on the job a meeting was held to determine how to prevent the injury from happening again. One of those safety management ideas that sounds good but quickly goes witch-hunt. This one time, office workers were nearly required to wear hard hats because a transfer from another district hit his head on a cupboard, managed to cut the skin open and because it bled, he called an ambulance instead of using the first aid kit prominently mounted on the wall. “How can we prevent morons from splitting… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Gunner Q
3 years ago

“How can we prevent morons from splitting their heads open in a cubicle farm?”

Don’t hire morons.

Member
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Dammit. Beat me to it.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Henry Lee
3 years ago

I often save parts of the safety alerts that get sent out in my company; the parts that include the pathetic contrition from the safety manager at that site. Here are some examples, please excuse the literary stylings of some: It is tough to stand in front of the team and tell them someone was injured on our site, but the team took this as a learning opportunity and a reflection on how quickly an injury can happen. One employee spoke up during the meeting and reminded everyone that we have worked 1555+ days since our last lost time. We won’t hang… Read more »

Hun
Hun
3 years ago

Cost doesn’t matter. If only one dryer can be saved by the mandatory cleanings, then it’s all worth it.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

I think someone tried to upsell Z-Man over the weekend and he got annoyed

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

And for only $5 more a month, we rust-proof your pets! Those suckers will rust up on ya! Better safe!

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

I don’t want to be the guy that refers to Ben Franklins quote on security vs. liberty again, you all know it.

Mike Rowe has a little campaign going called safety third. He mentions also C.S. Lewis’ little essay “living in the atomic age”. Quite relevant for these times. As far as a society focusing on material well being, Pat Buchanan said America was greater country long before it became a prosperous one.

hey look, no thoughts on my own today, but I just referred to four other people for inspiration.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Yarvin wrote about this kind of thing around Christmas. The gist of it is, it may have been better to rush out a vaccine that works for millions but kills or maims a few hundred due to side effects. But safety first! Allow 400K to die from coronachan so we know that not one person dies from the jab. He’s got other examples in here too. It’s a tour-de-force.

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/2020-the-year-of-everything-fake?r=1s41z&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

I’ll add I’m not a covidian or vaccine-pusher, but it’s an interesting read.

Screwtape
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Once upon a time children aspired to be grown-ups, to take the reigns of life, to be like their parents. Parents encouraged this, if by nothing other than living adulthood themselves, while holding back from view that which their children were not yet equipped to understand. Parents protected them from dangers that lay in wait by insulating them from adulthood with the truth about the world wrapped in little lies with built in expirations. The grand inversion changed that too. Now children dream of perpetual adolescence, to be relieved of the burdens of adult life by some extrinsic power, paralyzed… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

A person turned 21, and gained license to drink, smoke, and gamble. But then came the ephemeral “dangers of second-hand smoke.”

Now we have the wisdom of Daddy Joe to keep us all safe! Will he let us go out and play today?

Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Second hand smoke is one of those things that exists when you look, very carefully and methodically, at statistics on morbidity and mortality. I had a gig a long time ago as an assistant to one of the academic big shots who “proved” the whole thing back in the 1970s-1980s. Basically, their strategy was to show that, all other things being equal, a population of people who don’t smoke but are exposed to a lot of smoke from others will have a higher rate of lung cancer and mortality than those are less exposed to it. While this result surprised… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

It was 18 when I came of age.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

He must be paid by the word. Way too long for the points made.

Member
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Yarvin does need an editor but taking forever to make a point is also part of his shtick. He writes everything in this snarky elliptical style where the real points are implied rather than explicitly stated. Maybe it’s just that he’s used to operating in the hyper-pozzed world of Silly Valley and has to hide his intent. Everybody knows who Moldbug is now though and the Silly Valley SJWs hate him anyway. Then again, everybody knew Bruce Wayne was Batman too…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Can’t let people get sick and get over it, creating natural herd immunity.

Safety compliance. What a thing to base the new economy on. Safety in your thoughts, first, because the thought becomes the deed, and then for no reason at all, white people go off and…

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Yep, seems that way to me. After having recovered from covid, I am told to get the “jab”. I ask a simple question: “How will the jab increase my immunity?” Only response, “We don’t know how long your immunity will last.” So how long does the immunity—if any—provided by the jab last? No one knows, and for that matter the vaccine is not touted as a preventative—only that it reduces severity of disease. So if we are unable to answer such questions, can any of these onerous restrictions and lockdowns be safely lifted? Doubtful. We are seeing a setup for… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

This idea that those who’ve recovered still need the vaccine is extremely pernicious. Why, to make their body do what it’s already doing? I’m not an anti-vaxxer or prone to conspiracies, but the push to jab every last person on earth sets off alarm bells in my mind.

Member
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

The media is already setting up the rubes to be scammed again. That’s what all the talk about new strains of sooper-dooper Covid is for. They waged a propaganda campaign to raise false hopes about the vaccines and now they are discrediting those same hopes to keep the tyranny ball rolling. The truth is somewhere in the middle I’m sure. The vaccines may sort of work and yet the immunity they confer may be short-lived. It may eventually be possible, using a very intensive course of multiple shots of several different vaccines, to confer a resistance about as good as… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Both, Covid and the “vaccines” for it are bullshit.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

He keeps talking about how 1940s and 1970s America could do it and how we can’t. But he completely fails to spot the differences between today and yesterday. America no longer exists. That 8 year old, his name is now Hector or Dontavious and that’s if that 8 year old is a boy!
Also denies IQ. He turns it into a joke, but that’s because he doesn’t want to deal with ethnic differences in IQ.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Same situation occurred wrt to air bag requirements. The government knew and mandated air bag technology when it killed and maimed frail and smaller people due to a one size fits all air bag design in the early days. The government not only knew this, but refused to allow folk to turn off the air bags. After much later they allowed a switch but made getting one installed so difficult, few applied for permission and it was hard to find a dealership willing to risk installation of such. Hundreds of people died so that a few thousand people would live.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

I love that my 2007 pickup has a key switch on the dashboard to deactivate the passenger side air bag. I think because it’s a standard cab, and there’s no “back seat” for infants is why it’s there, but it’s great when I have the dog in the car, too. I’m positive he is not the right height and construction to get an exploding air bag in his face.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

By normal vaccine approval standards, the COVID one were rushed.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

So much worth considering in this post. For one thing, living as I do in a major Diverse city (as Z Man does), I know that urban school districts aren’t facing a problem of kids bumping their heads and scraping their knees. We have teenage boys who are extremely violent and incapable of being educated up to high school level in reading and math. In my opinion the school closures are a backhanded way of acknowledging that without singling out who exactly is the problem here. But then the bigger issue is: the utilitarian calculus. In bygone days people were… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Yeah they tried to go against biology and it failed. Now they’re just saying “fuck you” and trying to destroy us. Strong alpha white men really do stand out – believe me, I live in a 70% non-white area. Every one of us is a reminder that biology is real. Sadly it is working for now. Many young white men are wiggers. Alot of white soyboys are around. And generally unkempt and depressed looking white guys are around too. But at the end of the day, the only way to prevent biology from re-asserting itself is to either kill us,… Read more »

Shrugger
Shrugger
3 years ago

The definition of safety has of course been extended by Twitter and others to mean “bad thoughts I want to eradicate.” They even call their censorship organizations “Trust and Safety”.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Shrugger
3 years ago

I would be a very bad person if I reported every woke account, wouldn’t I.

Severian
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

I have always wondered when “dissidents” would *finally* get around to getting some f*cking revenge! Every single thing every single Leftist posts on social media is potentially offensive to someone. Take five minutes of your time, and report five accounts a day. Harass them. Do what they do to Larry Correia, who basically couldn’t use Facebook while he was on it because they’d tag-team report him. If everyone just took five minutes a day, reporting five accounts a day, we could crash Twitter…. ….but that would be BAD, and soon enough it will be “domestic terrorism” (coming soon to an… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
3 years ago

I have to say that reason at the end is why I picked my name. I deal with a wide swath of the public, and most are feckless and inept: exactly like the Eloi. The Time Machine is a great novella; I love the way the narrator is forced to discern and read an inscrutable situation. Though no definitive conclusion is ever reached, I always take the interpretation that the Morlocks created the condition that allowed them to harvest the Eloi, with their inchoate, glistening eyes, as cattle – the same look you see when the hearts of the covidians… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Eloi
3 years ago

Had the Eloi managed to flatten the curve by the time all this came to pass?

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Eloi
3 years ago

I’ll have to check it out

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

HG Wells wrote several great novels. Tono Bungay is rather obscure but great if you like the economics of a grifter. He gets some flack for his lib views, but Edwardian period liberalism is not the liberalism of today

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

My favorite example of the cult of safety is bicycle riding. Over the last 20 years it has become common to see full grown “men” tooling around their posh and safe residential neighborhoods padded up like they’re about to scale the south face of Dhaulagiri. Pathetic doesn’t begin to describe it.

As for working from home, I love it and hardly because it keeps me safe. I cherish working from home because it reduces exposure to AWR imbeciles in my workplace.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

When I was a little girl of about 7 my parents let me ride my bike around the block alone for the first time. What they neglected to tell me was it’s not a good idea to pedal down a step hill especially when there’s a gully waiting at the bottom. Realizing my mistake too late and going into panic mode I took a hard right and laid the bike down in the gravelly shoulder rather than braking hard and pitching head over heals into certain doom. Luckily there was a group of teenagers playing volleyball nearby who came to… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

The day I learned to ride a bike was the day I started setting my own agenda. Same for most of my friends. For better or worse we largely raised ourselves.

I wonder if that was typical of my cohort and if the collective self-rearing has something to do with the millennial habit of shamelessness, since we all knew each other’s insecurities and secrets. Maybe we were behind the times. Helicopter parents were more of a thing for the 90s babies in my experience.

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I had a similar thought this morning as the local sportsball collective, alas, suffered an end to their most recent campaign of empowering bravery. I couldn’t care less one way or the other, but the benefit is that I’m now spared two weeks of overhearing meatheaded palaver regarding two tribes of joggers playing catch.

I’ve come to the same conclusion regarding my yearly visits to the in-laws in Taiwan each year. For 2-3 weeks I’m free from exposure to all conversations that relate to the pozz. It’s the one thing I look forward to each time.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I’m an avid mountainbiker and occassionaly ride gnarly trails where a small misstep can result in an 800 foot face-plant (Poisson Spider Mesa for example). The closest I’ve ever come to making the terminal dive was when a sweet young thing in riding Spandex and a fanny-to-die-for passed me on a 5-foot wide shelf trail and then she hit the brakes unexpectedly. Needless to say, face met fanny but I managed to keep us both safely on the wall side of the trail. I can’t remember what she looked like, but that fanny remains a permanent memory.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I’d have had her in my bed within 48 hours for basically saving her life but then, that is just me… at least you got a face full of tight behind. 🙂

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

You both need mental help.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Imagine. Men liking pretty girls. What sort of crazy world could survive if that were allowed to go unchecked?

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Typing pervy comments on the internet isn’t really healthy.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Normal, heterosexual attraction and the recognition of such is the opposite of “pervy.” The fact that you think it is pervy is part of the problem with the demonization of normal masculine impulses.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Happy landings, doughboy.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The cult of safety has been building for many decades. It’s at least partially driven by the US Tort system, that’s effectively become a lottery – based on the ability of lawyers to con juries with specious arguments. I remember an episode from the early 90s that was nationally reported news. The show sixty minutes did a segment on the cancer risk posed by farmers using “Alar” on apples. The story was entirely fraudulent agit prop from an enviro group. Anyway, the following morning some parent that had seen the segment remembered that they had sent their kid to school… Read more »

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Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I can just imagine the apple being removed by guys in hazmat suit, and purposely detonated in an empty field. Finally, safe. But for how long?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

In a panic she called the cops, and then the cops and parent chased after the school bus to prevent little Johnny from eating the apple. Those people and their children are now the rulers of this society. So take your story and extrapolate it up to the halls of power and you end up with 25,000 soldiers in the nation’s capitol because a bunch of flyover hicks decided to take some selfies in proximity to these same sheep. Tangential: Has anyone calculated the cost of the largest domestic mobilization of armed forces in history? How many millions of taxpayer… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

the largest domestic mobilization of armed forces in history?

Well, not quite. I hear Grant, Sherman, Jackson, Lee and their contemporaries mobilized quite a lot of domestic armed forces.
More than 100,000 Union troops and more than 70,000 Confederate troops at Gettysburg alone.

Those guys knew what an insurrection was.

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Didn’t Meryl Streep, or some other celebrity testify to Congress about Alar? I guess she ate an apple once, which made her an expert. Then it turned out that organic apples were actually more carcinogenic because, absent a pesticide, they create their own natural defense against pests.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Ah, yes… The evil otherwise known as bacon, causes much cancer because it contains nitrates (ifn I recollect proper). Turns out that whatever spit you can suck from your mouth to expell, has as much or more than a pound of said delicious goodness.
I believe that special safety bulletin came from our favorite WHO. Probably a precursor to the “you’ll be eating bugs and enjoying it”… Little did we know that it was because they fully intended to destroy the economy and our lively hood.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

“We spent trillions waging a crusade against Muslims because we had to be safe from terror.”

The clownworld aspect of this is on the one hand, we’re deathly afraid of Islamic terrorism, but on the other hand, we are inviting them into our countries so they can more easily target us.
Job one in the “war on terrorism” should be to keep them out, not invite them in!

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

TSA: “Terrorism is a major problem!”
Also TSA: “Look at our diverse Muslim security agents!”

Jack Stringer
Jack Stringer
3 years ago

The oil fields were once a culture of masculinity and managed danger. Now we are not allowed to wear open toed shoes (sandals or flip-flops) in offshore living quarters because someone stumped their toe and required first aid.

Glendower
Glendower
Reply to  Jack Stringer
3 years ago

Sorry to hear the offshore industry is changing for the worse. I worked offshore from ’91-2000. Started as a blaster/painter ended up as barge captain. I loved seeing rednecks with 3rd grade educations managing multi-million dollar equipment (hell, how much does in cost to replace a semi now? A billion?) and making 100K+ a year. If you wanted the impossible to happen, those boys would find a way. Far more talented and useful than any number of degreed engineers.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glendower
3 years ago

There are some pretty good websites documenting the incredible achievements of redneck engineering.

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Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Glendower
3 years ago

My son was a second engineer on an offshore rig and he is a degreed engineer who told me he learned more from the Brazilian motorman (my son speaks Portuguese) than from anyone else he worked with. My son now drills for water, but one of his most important clients is in the oil fields (onshore). If things break right, he’s on line for a very large contract. Here’s hoping! Thanks to the hands-on training he received from the highly experienced and knowledgable Brazilian, he can fix nearly any of the myriad problems that arise with machinery.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jack Stringer
3 years ago

If you haven’t heard this before I hope you like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMfwxWA14zo

An ode to masculinity, self reliance, and roughnecks.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
3 years ago

“Careful!” My gramma use to say. As kids, we would throw ourselves down the carpeted stairs, flopping our hands loudly as we slid down. Great fun to tease gramma!
But thats what you get when White men discover a right that women have, to be in politics, and to compete with men in the work place. You get an effeminate society!

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

Who else did jumps on their dirt bikes without wearing helmets?

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Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

We had no idea there was such a thing as a bicycle helmet.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

The Keystone pipeline will be shut down in order to have a “ safe” climate. Meanwhile now trains and trucks will transport the Canadian “ dirty” oil.
And by the way gas prices are on their way to $4 bucks again.
For your “safety”
For climate “ safety”
And for the children!

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Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

4 bucks might seem like a bargain in the not too distant future (unless you meant per liter)

DLS
DLS
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

Thankfully Warren Buffett, Democratic grifter, is there with his rail lines and trucking companies to save the environment.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

If there is one thing that’s going to get those chubby kids walking to work rather than lounging around in a Carjacked Mercedes, it’s $4 a gallon gas.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

I’m not sure I follow your issue with vent cleaning since it actually makes sense as most modern offices are a closed loop system. Have you tried opening a window in any new office building in the US? It’s almost impossible. Vent cleaning is directly related to maintenance of the air handling systems which includes the duct work and intake filters. Even the best filters can still allow some particles into air handling system and duct work. This is why you often see dirt or dust accumulation around the vent grill (diffuser) where the air exits the system and enters… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

That there is a workplace ordinance is what’s important.
Verordnungen macht frei.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

I have a family member that does capital project management in the Imperial Capital. This past year he was doing a major renovation on Bill Barr’s office. He described how beautiful the building was and that Barr, like many others in that building, had a small balcony off his office, but that years ago the balconies had been made physically inaccessible. So we can trust this guy — ha, ha — to lead an investigation into massive abuses of power, but we can’t trust him to not fall out of his building.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

“Fall.”

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

I suppose things are different in different countries and States. Here in the USA, I spent 20 years in the same department and office complex. There was never a cleaning of the office vents. The air refresh/recirculation was at either end of the floor and that was filtered, with new air added from outside. Those filters were changed at regular intervals. The filters and system looked like what one sees in a private home, only much bigger. And yes, every office vent was somewhat dirty from dust coming in or going out, so I assume that was indicative of buildup… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

It’s less about the vent cleaning than the MANDATED vent cleaning. We should all be allowed to judge risk for ourselves, but today the government seized that “responsibility” and with it, that authority.

Locust Post
Locust Post
3 years ago

One area of excessive safety is fire risk. Through building codes (use of materials that don’t burn), sprinklers, vented restaurant hoods, etc., there are very few fires. Very few. Yet every town and city builds and maintains elaborate fire stations staffed by well-paid people with really good pension plans. They spend a lot of their time doing other things (publishing cookbooks, posing for calendars, driving in parades, rescuing animals) than actually fighting fires. Plus, there are a bunch of related industries—fire extinguishers that have to be bought by law and tested and constantly replaced. I’ve wondered when the common citizens would get on to this… Read more »

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

How about them taking good real estate from. Bums. When they are fund-raising with those stupid boots?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

Sorry, but we’ll need those stalwart lads to deal with the homeless camps routinely catching on fire. Then again…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

So it’s a twofer Monday after all! Thanks!

Mandated air duct cleanings have joined mandatory dryer vent cleanings in the Safety Cult. But wait, they aren’t done yet! Providers of these services now offer antibicrobtial treatment as an option, including dryer vents that aren’t even recirculated. Those will become .mandatory, too, and already may be in places.

A little financial advice: ditch rental property before the housing market collapses later this year. Safety requirements are only getting started

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

You reminded me, every time we have our hot water heater replaced it seems like the state/county have mandated some new doo-dad to go on to it in the one-in-6 million chance that there’s some fatal pressure issue with the thing.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I sold a property I had rented out for the last 8 years due to the Covid eviction rules. There is no way I need the risk of having tenants that can trash the property and not pay, with nothing I can do about it. Sure, you can sue for back rent if you enjoy paying more in legal fees than you would ever collect.

whitney
Member
3 years ago

Orwell has some real zingers on this subject A machine evolves by becoming more efficient, that is, more foolproof; hence the objective of mechanical progress is a foolproof world—which may or may not mean a world inhabited by fools. The tendency of mechanical progress, then, is to frustrate the human need for effort and creation he returns to optimism and to a vision of humanity, “liberated” by the machine, as a race of enlightened sunbathers whose sole topic of conversation is their own superiority to their ancestors. in practice any attempt to check the development of the machine appears to… Read more »

whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Should have put quotation marks in there they’re all Orwell quotes

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

their own superiority to their ancestors.

This idea of constant progress is a major error in the thinking of the modern

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Hi-yah!
3 years ago

A play on the joke I saw on Gab: “quit asking if you should be ashamed of your ancestors and start asking if your ancestors would be ashamed of you”

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Thank you sir! I always think that way – it comes naturally. I know my beliefs align with my recent ancestors – grandparents and great-grandparents. I am not ashamed of them and like to think they would not be ashamed of me.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

A revolutionary WN writer whom I won’t name here exhorted, “Try to be the sort of man that your Grandfathers would respect!”

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Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Men have been remarking on the drawbacks of material progress for a very long time. The Roman historian Tacitus, writing about AD 98, says of the Britons, “Step by step they were led to practices which disposed to vice — the lounge, the bath, the elegant banquet. All this in their ignorance they called civilisation, when it was but part of their servitude.”

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Grumpy Cat
Grumpy Cat
3 years ago

And on the flip side, the Chinese keep mass producing absolute junk that breaks (in some cases causing physically injury) and we keep buying into the Globalist’s Ponzi Scheme supporting this shitstorm. Walmart/Amazon is still open!

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Safety is now our god. Indeed. Since the advent of the Yellow Peril Virus, I have thought quite deeply about all things done in the name of safety. It is staggering how many of these ‘cures’ are in no way obvious benefits like society. But we know this. Safety in it’s 21st Century guise is first a major grift and second a major cause to virtue signal. The word ‘safety’ is yet another word that has over time come to be accepted as ‘always good’. This isn’t true, but good luck trying to persuade someone of that. That said, the… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Of course, “safety” in many cases is subjective. So, lots of the people staying home, or being forced to, to save them from the covid are killing themselves by over-eating, drinking and/or drugging – but that doesn’t count, even though one could make the case that they’re covid related deaths, or more precisely covid hysteria related deaths. Deaths just the same, just not the right kind.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Hey, covid is waaaay more deadly than crack, I’m sure I heard that somewhere.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“The word ‘safety’ is yet another word that has over time come to be accepted as ‘always good’.”

Hm. Yes. Kind of like “change.”

Calsdad
Calsdad
3 years ago

I knew the safety shit was totally out of control way back in the 90s when some group of dimwits was proposing an airbag mandate for …….. motorcycles. As a guy in my mid-50s it’s fun to go to parties where there will be teenagers and young twenty-somethings present. The older folks will inevitably start playing the “remember when?” game. That’s my opportunity to bring up how in the early 80s when I was in high school and everybody was getting their drivers license – it was pretty common to go out drinking – and then drive. Drive to another… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Calsdad
3 years ago

My son is 20 and desperately wishes it was 1981 not 2021.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Calsdad
3 years ago

The drinking and driving thing is a good example of a fruitless search for safety.. Not that one should drive impaired—THEY SHOULD NOT! It’s the judgement of what constitutes impairment. Alcohol impairment presumption level has decreased decade by decade, to the point where one drink for a small person can push you over the limit. Here they report on the news from time to time on alcohol levels for those arrested during road block dragnets. Always the same thing. The majority of those arrested are at two to three times the presumptive level, and then there is always a small… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

The ban on open containers is a good example. Of course, no one should drive impaired but a can or bottle opened has no bearing on impairment. Sometimes after fishing all day, I will open a beer and drink one on the way home ’cause fuck you.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Calsdad
3 years ago

The drinking and driving enforcement got much more serious in the ’80s and ’90s because Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) waged jihad in the media and the law enforcement-legal-insurance complex realized scooping up as many drunks as possible was a huge future income stream.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

“Tonight, on a very special episode of…” Followed by product placement for MADD.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Remember DAMM: Mothers Most Against Dislexia?

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
3 years ago

Safety is a Girl Thing, because, as I say, “Women expect to be protected.”

And the safety thing is a consequence of women in the public square. Women expect to be safe, and now that women conduct more of their lives in public that means the safety thing moves out of the domestic sphere into the public sphere.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Christopher Chantrill
3 years ago

And women are designed (by natural selection) to protect and worry about the safety of infants and toddlers. So one would expect, w a more feminized ruling class, to see the world sought to be made more ‘child safe’.

Women are wonderful creatures but no society will survive giving them political power.

MikeW
MikeW
3 years ago

In 2019 I sold my modest 2-storey townhouse in Oregon. By law I had to replace all 6 smoke detectors (all functioning perfectly) because they were more than 5 years old. And I had to install a carbon monoxide detector. Safety first!

Drake
Drake
Reply to  MikeW
3 years ago

Last time I sold a house I had to affix a fire extinguisher to the wall of the kitchen. I tried to do it in a way that wouldn’t leave a mark when the new owner took it down and tossed it in a closet or the garage.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I always put an extinguisher in the kitchen. A buddy related a tale of his parents house that suffered a kitchen fire and he noted that after years and years of grease splatter that I’d be shocked at how quickly a fire can go through a kitchen. So if you love bacon as much as I do a $20 extinguisher isn’t that big of deal, and it should be installed where everyone can see it (be sure to turn it upside down every now and then though to beat the bottom of it to keep the agent from caking).

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

“People in isolation from one another or isolated into little tribes lose their group identity. They begin to take on the mentality of prisoners, rather than citizens”.
From the Feds on down to local guvamint – isn’t that right there the goal they wish to achieve?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Whites don’t see attacks against individuals as an attack against the group, our fatal fault.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
3 years ago

How much do we need to spend to make our amphibious helicarrier fleet fire resistant…while in port? As our host alluded to, there isn’t enough money in the world to make American’s “safe”. The magic money machine will run dry.

Sleeping on pallets of “seeds” seemed kind of excessive last summer, but in hindsight, it was my best performing investment in 2020 (assuming I was dumb enough to sell them).

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

It’s only a matter of time till bicycles are outlawed because people can get hurt riding them!

OffByOne
OffByOne
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Why outlaw when you can create a new industry for ‘bicycle safety’?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

I for one mandate that all squirrels wear emergency parachutes in case of a fall from height as they leap between trees. Naturally, any animal predating another must fill out a risk assessment in addition to asking the predatee if xir wishes to be eaten.

Gunner Q
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Don’t forget the environmental impact reports!

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Remember that scene in Breaking Bad when the Bad Biker Whites just killed some people, and one said something like, “kids on their bikes with helmets, what the fuck happened to this country.” Then he sees some gore on his shoe, and wipes it off.

See, noticing the obsession with safety is….White Supremecy!

B125
B125
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Look at the price of GME stock….

Clown world is just getting started.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

GME? (Thanks in advance)

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
Firewire7
Firewire7
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Game Stop – an on-line betting operation.
Stock price Up 57% in last Wednesday’s session.
I’m trading all my Pet Rock and Beanie Baby portfolios and loading up on cyber bookies.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Firewire7
3 years ago

Thought it referred to the brick & mortar video game retailer?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Firewire7
3 years ago

The guy who made a few $bill shorting mortgages in 2008 has just made GME his next big one,

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

GME is hilarious and should be enjoyed because an army of autistic retail traders have multiple Wall Street pros bleeding from every orifice on their GME shorts.

In other words, this Clown World episode is a win for the little guys.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

My only regret was that I didn’t believe in clown world enough to get in on it.

But hey. Joe Biden got 80 million votes, and there are innumerable genders. So maybe GME really is worth 1,500 a share.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
3 years ago
B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

And now all the brokers are down

Wasn’t it you who said one day we will wake up and our accounts are simply gone?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Yes, I believe one morning we will wake up and find TPTB have locked retail traders out and zeroed our accounts for the greater good.

I am not having a problem with my broker. I don’t care for Robinhood, and I’d never put my money into a Chicom op like Webull.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Know it’s a joke, but if you want to see mass domestic terrorism, the government should try to cross the biker fanatics.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Hot Wheels For All!

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Someone will have cold dead hands if an attempt made to pry their Harlleys from them.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

We have new laws now where you have to swerve around them as they always have the right of way and you have to maintain (x) feet distance. Good luck on narrow lanes.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’ve got a real pet peeve with those cyclists. If there’s a bike lane it’s not too bad unless the jerkoffs are riding side by side or in a big group. But it’s when they’re riding down a heavily traveled road with no bike lane that really pisses me off – should be against the law. They’re not only a danger to themselves, but to drivers who have to negotiate their worthless asses.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Absolutely.

Simple physics tells us that bicycles are not street-compatible with the modern automobile.

B125
B125
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

One of the benefits of living in a “vibrant” area is that the vibrants have no use for cycling… especially not during the winters.

Entitled Goodwhite pricks love to cycle like they’re invincible. Occasionally one of them finds out they’re not.

Toronto seems to have passed it’s max cycling lunacy point. They’re now building subways, trains, and wide roads in the suburbs. I have to give the vibrants credit for alot of that. The whiter, smaller cities seem to try to make roads as dangerous and congested as possible.

Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

In Portland there is of course, a radical bicycle-supremacist group. According to the article though it seems the two-wheeled terrorists have been suppressed in recent years. Of course it’s like everything else around here. What looks like virtue-signalling is thinly veiled class signalling. In Portland, riding your fagcycle is a way of announcing to the motorists that, not only are you better people than they are for reducing your carbon footprint, but you are also richer, since they have to drive in from the suburbs and you can afford a hipster loft in the Peal District. One small mercy of… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

I’m surprised there are not more people hurt mountain biking and all of the public MTB trails.
My city has painted bike lanes more or less on every major street and has made biking on the pavement a ticketable offense, though rarely enforced.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Wrong mate. Try instead that your city council spends millions to eliminate lanes and parking on major downtown streets to make them safer for wide bicycle lanes. Sure, it creates traffic delays and impacts small business negatively, but it’s green. A few dedicated cycling enthusiasts can really f**k a city if they’re the squeaky wheel that gets the “safety” oil.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

I just joined the “Revitalize” committee in my small city. They do some nice things, like flower pots on street lamp posts, and park clean ups, but one thing they love to push is bike usage in our town, which is low-income and thankfully free of bike fanatics. I don’t understand the hard-on these people have for bike lanes, but one of the reasons I joined is specifically to throw sand in the gears of those efforts.

Screwtape
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

On of my first introductions to coming snowflake storm of the millennial generation was my niece. A precocious and happy child, but never really liked riding her bike. Not at all like her mother and I, who practically grew up riding bikes, unsupervised, all over the place in one adventure after the next. She liked it well enough, but immediately saw the *risk*. Not the freedom, autonomy, and adventure like we did as kids, but the dangers. Walking was just fine, thankyouverymuch. She was not a pessimist either, so I couldn’t dismiss her apprehension based on that. No, she was… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Single mom… Almost all the various “lifestyles” favored by straang independent wammen, whether slutting it up in da’ club, making babies with randos, going lesbo, or becoming some sort of “activist”, are destructive and costly to the surrounding society. A lot of the cowardice and safety mongering of the younger generation is a result of being raised by these hellions. I’m guessing the kid is a fanatical maskist nowadays?

Space_Race
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

It’s only a matter of time that our Dear Political Leaders tell us that the only way we will ever defeat the COVAIDS is for us all to kill ourselves.

Just like a true cult.

Rolaine
Rolaine
3 years ago

Typically and historically, the need for a sense of safety has been a feminine pursuit. It comes as no surprise that it’s recognized as a valuable instrument in the progressives’ handbag of tricks.

MikeW
MikeW
Reply to  Rolaine
3 years ago

Men are now raised to be (but can only be a defective version of) women. What used to be normal boyhood and masculinity is now suppressed, ridiculed, punished, and medicated.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

“An easy to miss subtext to the continued lockdowns is the claim that working at home is safer than going to the office” Working from home is awesome. We should do a lot more of it. I would go as far as to say that anyone who can work from home should work from home. Commuting in and around big cities is absolutely soul destroying. It is a total waste of energy besides. The amount of gas and diesel burned nation wide during rush hour idling or stop and go highway traffic is astronomical. The traffic reduction for those who… Read more »

Toma
Toma
3 years ago

The Year of Living Dangerously USA Style has begun, and forewarned is forearmed. Going Dark (Cont) Write on your phone’s case “The Spy In My Pocket” and then leave it at home whenever you wish to be left alone. Never answer blind calls. If you’re into active measures, learn to communicate extraneous & misleading info via your phone. The watchers rarely know the difference, and it nonetheless creates doubt. And never trust burner phones either. Anything electronic in your pocket is a potential threat nowadays. And don’t get me started on Siri/Alexa. Sophisticated AI are mining these data for pre-crime… Read more »

Sidvic
Sidvic
Member
3 years ago

They sure are keeping the National Guard in DC for a long time. I think the gyrations of arming/disarming/loyalty tests reflects this neurotic obsession with safety.

Clown world indeed.

Peabody
Peabody
3 years ago

I’m probably stating the obvious but it’s never really about safety but creating a constant debilitating state of fight or flight in a captive public.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

Hate Twitter on the safety of our elections:

“In case you had any doubts the US election was anything but the safest most secure election in history, first bill being passed through congress is mass mail voting at the federal level and restricting states from requiring ID, signature verification etc.”

Bill HR1, the first bill of the 117th Congress.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

Just yesterday an oak tree in my neighborhood started leaning slightly in my neighbor’s yard due to the soggy ground. The fire department was called by another neighbor. Police tape and cones were put all around the oak tree with a warning sign on a traffic barricade with a blinking light. The safety issue appears to be, in part, a control issue. It’s not that the guy comes to clean the vent, it’s the calling of the guy to clean the vent, and the making of the appointment. A people completely obsessed with their surrounding environment. If we’re programmed to… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
3 years ago

I caught Covid

I was bedridden for three days with little energy, and orange juice tasted like limes. Hot sauce didn’t burn my tongue as much as usual. My sense of balance was thrown out of what due to congestion. No fever. But that was pretty much it.

It’s actually started to infuriate me that these people shut down the economy. So they feel they can cause 1 to 2 years of financial hardship or ruin for a mild 3-7 day cold?

It’s not like I needed another reason to hate the government.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Your case may even be on the more significant side since you wre bedridden. This has been an outrage and debacle.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I got it, felt rough for a day, took some ivermectin (Duramectin Horse wormer) $4 from Tractor Supply- I was pissed paid $6 from Amazon back in April.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-608-g?cm_vc=-10005

Two days later just fine.

They deworm 5 year old kids with 10 times the dose so Africa has its uses: good test lab

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

I remember when this safety crap started back in the mid sixties. It started with seat belts and quickly moved on to designated parking spots for the handicapped. And on and on it goes today. Every other commercial starts with “We’re here to help you.” My ass they do.

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Rich
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

It’ll all turn out fine. Remember, we’re in this together!

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Rich
3 years ago

…unless something that truly is awful occurs – then you’re on your own!!

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

As a kid growing up in central Massachusetts, we just knew that school wasn’t going to be cancelled unless it actually snowed more than 6 inches. People just dealt with it. Now… I’ve seen school cancelled because a couple inches of snow was predicted (doesn’t even matter if it really happened).

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Weather safety has reached some pretty insane levels. In my city, any time snow is predicted or there is some remote possibility a hurricane might pass us by, there are hours long press conferences, the supermarkets get emptied etc. Every weather event becomes a huge story. It really is amazing how much this has changed in the last 30 or 40 years.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

There’s a ton more liability now.

Shrugger
Shrugger
3 years ago

I can’t resist saying that my religion has a lot of nasty tenants I would like to be rid of.

Au Jus
Au Jus
Member
3 years ago

I guess it was about 10 years ago, maybe longer, that safety culture began taking over health care. We now had a new master to report to in our matrix environment – the quality and safety department and the new C-Suite position the chief quality officer… Suddenly one morning all directors and c suite were required to get on a conference call which was called a “safety huddle”… Most of us were baffled as to what we were supposed to do or say and the conference call degenerated into people bringing up healthcare topic to discuss… It soon became apparent… Read more »

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Glendower
Glendower
3 years ago

These people are obsessed with safety not just because it’s a great control technique, but also because they have no capability for spirituality. This life, in all its meanness, is all they know and expect to know, so it must be prolonged at any cost. They are terrified of death. This is an advantage for us, as our principles and beliefs are worth dying for. Who’s ready to give up his life for critical race theory or feminism? Maybe a few Antifa wackos, but not your everyday leftist. No way. Even I, a peaceful family man, have some limit where… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Glendower
3 years ago

Exactly.

I live my life to the fullest. Some wins, some losses. I will die one day, as will everyone else. I’m not afraid of it, as I’ve accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviour and will gain eternal rest at that point.

It’s not that hard, but so many soys and wahmen don’t get it. When it’s your time, God calls you up.

T. Morris
T. Morris
3 years ago

When the wife starts complaining to me that it is taking the dryer too long to dry a load of clothes, I instantly know the problem is almost always one of three things: (1) the heating element is bad; (2) the vent is stopped up or “blocked”; and/or (3) the duct work inside the dryer is stopped up with lint. #3 is the ‘fire hazard.’

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  T. Morris
3 years ago

That was my thought, someone will know well ahead of time that there are issues since the dryer will stop drying clothes long before it catches on fire.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

One of the big issues with modern dryer ducting is its inefficiency. A ‘laundry room’ in the middle of a 2,600 sq ft house is, by definition, inefficient. Think of it in terms like this – how many feet, and how many turns therein, does it take to vent a dryer? By direct contrast, our forbears understood that venting a dryer *directly* outside or under the house, made complete sense. I have dealt with dryer ducting that was 50 to 75 ft in length. Stu-Pid!

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  T. Morris
3 years ago

I have been lucky in this respect. Every place I have ever lived had a dryer in the basement that directly vented to outside. No duct work. The house I live in now doesn’t have any ducts at all. Steam heat is expensive to run, but it generates lots of moisture and is great for sinuses.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

The problem, though, is that most people have no earthly idea how to correct the situation.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  T. Morris
3 years ago

Have handled all three items – not a big deal (+/- 25′ of duct is more than enough for me).

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Perhaps, but there are a lot of stupid people out there who can deduce little. Hell, a lot of your “sudden” fires are people drying oily rags and stuff.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

I don’t even think them stupid, just ignorant. My dad was an HVAC guy; as such, he taught me quite a lot about troubleshooting HVAC situations. Which is why I’m the “go to” guy in these situations within my little circle. The problem with fires caused by dryers is a real problem; but as Z says, not as big a problem as adverized. Again, get into the internal workings of the dryer, and you’ve solved the fire hazard thing beyond 99%.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  T. Morris
3 years ago

You being the “go to” guy in your circle is exactly what we need. My father’s work involved a lot of electrical work and he had a degree in electrical engineering and when I was a kid, there was a whole network of “go to” guys in the neighborhood. One year our heater broke right in the dead of winter. My father bought a new boiler and he and an HVAC neighbor installed it themselves. Odd tools were shared and all the men who each had some level of knowledge would all help each other out. A neighbor plumber helped… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

If safety is the new overall goal then I think we are reverting to the oldest ‘societal goal’, although ‘safety’ may now be defined in a new way. Before the industrial revolution I think safety WAS the primary safety of society. Sometime shortly after the advent of agriculture, maybe 5-8000 BC, some ‘discovered’ that it was easier to steal food (and shelter, women and other enjoyable goods) than to do the hard work. So eventually an implicit deal was struck between some farmers and some (presumable) robbers that the latter would protect the former in exchange for food, housing etc.… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

See Kurosawa’s Seven Samuri for one way to deal with this. Or the Magnificent Seven, the USA remake.

Tom K
Tom K
3 years ago

In the land of the risk avoiders the risk-taking man is king.

huerfano
huerfano
3 years ago

Is this a result of an atheist/nihilist view that the universe is indifferent and hostile to life, without a divine being to protect you or a divine plan which affirms life has a place in the universe? Maybe we’re better off with some kind of sky god…”bad shit happens, it’s the sky god’s will (which is mysterious), but don’t worry, you are part of the divine plan, so recover and get on with your life.”

My Comment
Member
3 years ago

Safety is the most important goal of modern western society because it has become feminized. Women crave safety. Hysterical leftist women even more so as they destroy their societies. Men used to crave challenges and opportunities.

This mania has spread to other societies thanks to the media, global organizations and nearly worldwide rise of the gynocracy. However, non white societies still have a masculine influence

Bilejones
Member
3 years ago

Then there’s the cult fouling its own nest: using water is bad: St Al of Gore said so. Washing machines now use so little water that they can’t keep themselves clean (But we have to believe they’ve cleaned our clothes). So now we must have a separate ritual to keep the cleaning machine clean.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

I wonder if dairy cows have similar (bovine) thoughts when being milked. I’m getting tired of the farmers encroaching, really tired of their livestock.

(Not that I’m not one of them in the end.)

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BadThinker
BadThinker
3 years ago

We’re all in it together, kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXUIcb80N0