Corporate Rebels

Note: The regular Monday post is up at Taki. This week it is a language lesson in how to communicate in your new country. There is the Sunday Thoughts podcast up behind the green door, for those who enjoy the sound of my voice. This week I spent a lot of time making sport of General Milley.


It has been observed that people who claim to be free thinkers are always people trapped in the narrowest lanes of dogma. They somehow confuse their love of conformity for rebelliousness. On the other hand, people who do question the prevailing orthodoxies tend not to think about it very much. Instead, they follow their nose on the alternative path, even if it violates a taboo. This is why genuine free thinkers tend to be victims of the revolutions they initially support.

In the current age, this contrast is especially stark. The people claiming to be the wild and crazy guys of politics are not only conventional, but they also tend to be wedded to the oldest ideas. They also enjoy full support from an increasingly authoritarian regime, while claiming to oppose authoritarianism. A good example is someone like Tim Pool, who is a perfect example of how the regime creates its own opposition. He thinks he is a rebel while broadcasting from regime platforms.

The Right is festooned with housebroken rebels. This is a legacy of Bill Buckley, who defined the opposition to the Left within the bounds of the acceptable. It was the Left, of course, that decided what was acceptable. Over the last 70 years, every great purge was led by the Buckley crowd. The Birchers, paleocons, populists, immigration patriots and so on were denounced and purged by Conservatives, after the Left decided they were no longer allowed in polite company.

In the current age, the contrast between the swelling hordes of people outside the bounds of the acceptable and the so-called conservatives is glaring. It was not always so, which would explain why so-called conservatives carried on as if they were rebels trying to topple the system. In the 1990’s, for example, Conservative Inc. could plausibly argue that the paleo remnant turning up at Ross Perot rallies or Ron Paul events were just a noisy minority, not the real alternative to the Left.

A similar dynamic seems to be at play on the Left. The internet is full of people claiming to be the real Left. They tend to rally around people like Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez as the rebels against the system. Unlike those conventional thinkers in the mainstream media, the democratic socialist are the real rebels. They are the ones challenging the established order. The fact that democratic socialism is the plaything of a billionaire currency speculator never seems to matter.

This false consciousness is understandable among the street gangs and rioters recruited to cause mayhem. Most of the people were see smashing windows and bellowing about Nazis are just day labor hired for the task. The typical “black bloc” is populated with drug addicts, homeless people, and random losers. They are organized by the children of managerial class types, building their resume. Nothing opens doors in the managerial class like a turn as a street radical.

The real puzzle comes with the branded radicals. In this case, “branded” should be read as corporate branded. The Young Turks, for example, imagine themselves to be rebels fighting corporate media and corporate politics. They take their name from the Young Turk Revolution that toppled the Ottoman Empire’s monarchy. Cenk Uygur, one of the creators, describes himself as a young insurgent. He and the others are leading a revolution from the Left against the system.

The fact that his channel is the creation of the system, operates on the platforms of the system and is funded by the people who benefit the most from the system seems to be lost on him and his audience. What makes the whole thing even more amusing is that Cenk Uygur is a middle-aged man. The only thing that would make their enterprise more ridiculous is if the “Young Turks” were a collection of octogenarians working from the human resource department of Goldman Sachs.

If you want to see just how much American politics has been corporatized and homogenized since the end of the Cold War, look at the Left. The typical left-wing person in America will defend to the death the right of Apple or Amazon to exploit their workers in order to make a profit. The far-left of American political discourse now arrives at the debate dressed like race car drivers. They are the house slaves of the American political plantation, but think they are John Brown.

One reason for the political discourse being dominated by deluded corporate flunkies is it pays extremely well. Cenk Uygur would be spending his days in traffic court if not for his willingness to play this role in corporates politics. Instead of struggling to pay the mortgage, he gets to live in a mansion. This is where Bill Buckley was a pioneer back in the before times. He made selling out into a highly lucrative career by making it look like a principled stand against his paymasters.

That explains the cynical, but what about the truly deluded? The internet is full of people volunteering to carry the torch for corporate conservatism or corporate progressivism, while thinking themselves as free thinking rebels. These people volunteer to be sheep while thinking they are wolves. The people showing up at this summer’s Trump rallies are not doing it for money. The losers calling them fascists on Twitter are convinced they are fighting the racist system.

The simple answer is that the supply of people who are not terribly bright, but sure they are on top of things is quite large. Even if 20% of the population falls into this category, the system has an army of noisy simpletons it can control. That is more than enough to drown out the real opposition. It also creates social proof. People unhappy with the system can find a corporately controlled mob to join. The fact that it is safe inside the Cenk Uygur and Tim Pool tents adds to the appeal.

There is another reason. This quote from John Derbyshire’s We Are Doomed is useful in this context. “The ordinary modes of human thinking are magical, religious, social, and personal. We want our wishes to come true; we want the universe to care about us; we want the approval of those around us; we want to get even with that s.o.b who insulted us at the last tribal council. For most people, wanting to know the cold truth about the world is way, way down the list.”

That is what these sorts of politics satisfy. The fans of Cenk Uygur or Tim Pool get to feel like they are on the winning team. They are also told that the tides of history or the immutable facts of the universe are on their side. The exaggerated size of the audience offers the social proof and the pseudo fellowship of on-line communities. Most important, they get to hate on the bad guys. That is the real draw of this sort of corporate sponsored politics. You get to safely hate your enemies.

What never intrudes is reality. When Tim Pool says “I am not afraid of being challenged or wrong” he means that in the context of corporate sponsored politics. He is perfectly willing to sit down with the folks sponsored by Amazon or Apple to talk about the latest pronouncements from Team Walmart. What will never happen is any of these people sitting down with someone who genuinely questions the premise of corporate sponsored politics or the system that makes it possible.

In a way, the corporate sponsored rebel is the commercialization of the old tactics used by state security agencies. The FBI does not have to run COINTELPRO, because YouTube and Twitter do it for them. Instead of agents from the state secretly supporting the accommodationist wing of the opposition, corporate America hires them, gives them a big platform and the freedom to operate on-line. The rest fall in line because they just assume the marketplace has spoken.


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FeinGul
FeinGul
3 years ago

Corporate political connivance is an opportunity not a problem. All that they have is the fruits of Treason and corruption; so all that they have is Halal- literally ‘ that which you can take.’ Booty – Loot. Great Revolutionary economics.

Logistics problem solved.

We owe them nothing, they owe us tens of trillions- and they owe us for their foul and short sighted betrayal.

Really every problem is an opportunity when the enemy is the problem.

Texas Chainsaw Makeover
Texas Chainsaw Makeover
3 years ago

You know those decals on the back of trucks that show the cartoon Calvin pissing on a Ford, or Chevy, or Ram logo? The same company makes all of those.

Similarly, Dems and Reps are on the payroll of the same people.

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

White pills of the day: White pill #1: As the Biden Regency ineptly pursues a nuclear deal revival with now new hard core Islamist President Executioner, they are sending in F-15 raids on various Iranian Revolutionary Guard Command outposts in Syria and Iraq. In retaliation for that groups earlier using drones and explosives to attack CIA and Special Operations groups forward bases. Haha weren’t we supposed to be out of those places? And one group / faction in the Regency is bombing the Iranians while another makes nice with them. White pill #2: The US military complex seems determined to… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

The Marine corps has been stripped of armor and most artillery assets so it’s just little more than a light infantry force in Strykers. Basically worthless in a 1st world fight. Secondly the Army is in a bad way, a lot of their gear still needs to be fixed from the Iraq adventure and they are relying more and more Spec Ops to do stuff that at one time was done by conventional infantry or paratroops. Secondly the Army has so few active duty 11B’s that we have to rely on the AR and ANR to bolster their numbers. Think… Read more »

FeinGul
FeinGul
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Correct. Yes, the ARNG and AR (Army National Guard, {States} Army Reserve {Federal}) are now and have been a draft pool for active. A lot of that is by design from the Reagan years- the government wants broad support for any wars so the hometown and neighborhood boys go too. Not activating the Reserves was identified as a major LBJ mistake of Vietnam war. However this is all passe. The Oath passed with the Constitution. There is yet no replacement and certainly Biden or Milley aren’t inspiring personal leadership. I mean exactly when they try to use their toy soldiers… Read more »

FeinGul
FeinGul
Reply to  FeinGul
3 years ago

Short version; no Constitution, no military.

They want Iraq?
DC Green Zone proves yes.

So they get Iraqi army – we just stand there, collect a paycheck, or don’t show.

Let them fight.

Texas Chainsaw Makeover
Texas Chainsaw Makeover
3 years ago

I think it was Jim Goad who said if a fart had a face, it would be Cenk Uigur.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Texas Chainsaw Makeover
3 years ago

And I was the first to give him his all time great 21st century superhero name, Chink Wigger.

Goad and I were both cool thirty years ago. Being funny is worthless now. Has been for a long time.

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

As I sit in moderation hell, I would like to expand on the idea of moralism. I think the moral framework while powerful really only hits Upper Class White women. Who by dint of being female and upper class punch above their demographic weight but lack critical mass. Rather it is the power of a Managerial Class often inter-married and allied with wealthy upper class foreigners (see Stanley Ann Dunham) that has led to victory for the left. But their moralism leaves many cold. What does the Upper Class White moralism have to offer working class Latinos? Whose moral concerns… Read more »

Marisa
Marisa
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Just to be precise, the Harmonic Convergence was 8/16-17/87.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Marisa
3 years ago

Thanks, I had thought it later.

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Great Article Zman on Taki’s, however I would take issue with a few points. 1. Alinksy was certainly wrong regarding Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, and many other defeats of the West where propaganda and moralizing did nothing compared to tribal and national networks. 2. The very cruddiness of corporate moralistic propaganda means its message is viewed lower than a used car salesman’s assurances. Conchita Wurst and Simone Biles prancing around do not make a winning message for normie. 3. The victory after victory of the Left and defeat after defeat of the Right is more about the ascendancy of the Managerial… Read more »

Clarence
Clarence
3 years ago

Comparing Pool to Tucker (insider trades of information with members of the MSM, so he’s embedded in ‘the system’) or Shapiro (now THIS guy is ‘controlled’ opposition and often does the lefts work for them) is offensive, and with The Young Turks, even more so. What those three have in common that Pool doesn’t is ACTUAL INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT and funding, even though the two conservatives get a fraction of Institutional Support that TYT get, at least they get some. I get the idea this post was trying to say the “rebels” on the left and the on the “right” are… Read more »

Karen not a Karen
Karen not a Karen
Reply to  Clarence
3 years ago

I’d read your comment if you divided it up into smaller paragraphs. As it is, it is unreadable.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Karen not a Karen
3 years ago

“Karen not a Karen”

SMDHing

Who b!tch this is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sfs9h3bIDg

Frip
Member
Reply to  Clarence
3 years ago

Not going to read your insane wall of text. That kinda crap is no better than Ebonics. Should have listened to your teachers like the rest of us.

trackback
3 years ago

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

Oops- by ‘piracy’, I mean ‘hostile takeover’.
Now, who would organize a political, moral campaign to take over the centers of power in a country?

Who would think sideways like that, as a woman does, with an always-hidden agenda, even from themselves?

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

At least their womenfolk have big boobies.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Ploppy
3 years ago

Someone kindly inform the newly installed Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, David Barnea, that all muh M0ssad assassines are required to have D-Cups or larger.

If he even thinks about sending some teeny-tiny scrawny little C-cupped assassine around here, I’ma kick his hebe posterior.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
3 years ago

The terms “kept men”, “sell outs” and “controlled opposition” come to mind with Z’s post. When you look at political opposition it is mostly a collection of Kept Men who are working for some sugar daddy. These are not independent operators who self fund like the old radicals used to do. Heck most of them were and are dirt poor. Anything that comes out of these puppets mouth is sanitized feel good pablum aimed at keeping their target audience on the reservation. The ones who veer like Lou Dobbs get taken off the air or punished like Pirro and Carlson… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Didn’t you have some old bloke who mentioned Soros, and then was promptly cut off? Gingrich? Can’t quite recall who or on what show – but he did a naughty alright.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Yes, it was Gingrich on a Fox business program hosted by Melissa Francis. She stopped him cold when he mentioned Soros. However, Fox soon dropped her not long afterward. She has been unpersoned.

Mycale
Mycale
3 years ago

I think you can sum up this entire train of thought with one word, #resistance. Lefties who spent their entire day and night watching CNN and MSNBC and supporting CIA spooks like John Brennan spent years larping as underground rebels. Even as literally nothing in their lives or the lives of anyone they knew changed, they imagined they were beset on all sides by a Mustache Man 2.0 blitzkrieg that can only be fought by talking about filibusters, judicial confirmation votes, and first term congresswomen. When the new occupant of the White House moved in, a senile old fool who… Read more »

Catxman
Reply to  Mycale
3 years ago

The Left operates on the basis of squishy-feely emotions. Logic is not a paramount consideration, nor is reason. If it were, these trillions of dollars in new programs Biden is proposing would give pause to their generators, because of the staggering additions this means for the overall debt which has to be paid off. The future, as it is with children, is hazy and unreal to the members of the Left. Their myopic vision of abstractions turns more on feelz than it ever did on thinking.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Catxman
3 years ago

Logic is not a paramount consideration, nor is reason. The people at the top of the Leftist pyramid know precisely what they’re doing, and even if you’re utterly blind to the horrifying reality of their physiognomy, the very fact that they are doing what they are doing is all you need to know in order to come to the inescapable conclusion that they are sadistically psychopathic reptiles in human skinsuits. The Left operates on the basis of squishy-feely emotions. The big question – should we, by some miracle of Divine Intervention, ackshually win this thing – the big question is… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
3 years ago

What makes the whole [“Young Turks”] thing even more amusing is that Cenk Uygur is a middle-aged man.

Sorry, Zman, but Cenk Uygur is NOT “middle aged”. How many do you know of who lived to be a hundred?

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Point taken. 😉😁

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Z, your uncle Rasputin died at 47 but he was famously hard to kill.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

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Maybe he’s hanging out with Elvis and Moustache Man (and hopefully not Epstein).

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Kindly do not take in vain the name of Saint Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin.

Saint Grigori* was one of the greatest thinkers ever to walk the face of the earth.

Which of course is why the House of Rothschild ordered its MI6 subsidiary to liquidate him.

*Our very own Saint Gunslingergregi was aptly named.

Compsci
Compsci
3 years ago

Biggest problem with Tim Pool for me is that he is behind in events and publishes too long—which I assume is to generate/optimize money earned. I’m led to believe Pool is a top money earner on YouTube. On one of his channels his discussion group is young and pretty naive so I assume he is earring towards the 20-30 Yao’s. Pool has a poor habit of reading published “news” articles and commenting upon such as the grist of his program. I’ve also noticed Pool has moved from center Left to at least center Right in his analysis and stated concerns.… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

There is an entire social media ecosystem of wags that do little more than comment on published news articles from their particular viewpoint.

Some of them appear to be making pretty decent money.

sneakn
sneakn
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

“Lol” said Tim Pool, “lmao”.

His inability to articulate anything other than that when we are getting trounced really irritates me. Other than that I find his show to be fine for entertainment.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

“The simple answer is that the supply of people who are not terribly bright, but sure they are on top of things is quite large.”

There was a time, I’ve heard , that universal literacy was though of as problem. People wouldn’t REALLY be more independent, and discerning or informed, but were actually more easily manipulated not only by spoken “slogans” (as Clive Staple Lewis puts it in Screwtape) but now the even more memorable written slogan.

Informed electorate indeed!

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

Remember. The reason it is so devilishly difficult to make something foolproof is that the universe is infinitely creative when it comes to producing fools. Also remember; sense, like courtesy and decency, is one of the least “common” qualities in the universe.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

All of this is interwoven with entertainment. Rage For the Machine is a good example. The edgy, anti-establishment bands and entertainers created by the establishment have been cliche’ since the 1980’s. Nowhere is the life of an American untouched by this for any length of time. Half of the commercials on what’s left of the quickly dying right wing talk radio programs are from “The Ad-Counsel” which is basically a non-profit that’s directly funded by various agencies to parrot agency propaganda. Everyone wins. Ad agencies get money, the doctrines are promoted, the right wing entertainer gets his check in the… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

The edgy, anti-establishment bands and entertainers created by the establishment have been cliche’ since the 1980’s.

What?! You mean The Monkees WEREN’T the only made up band ever? I believe you owe Milli Vanilli a HUGE apology, don’t you? 😉

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Bill Mullins
3 years ago

Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart wrote some dynamite bubblegum hits for the Monkees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcXpKiY2MXE

Similarly, over on the other side of the tracks, “The Corporation” wrote some fantastic bubblegum tunes for the Jackson Five.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2bVIBwpCTA

PS: The more I learn about the history of 1960s/1970s pop music, the more one name keeps popping up, over and over and over again.

GLEN. CAMPBELL.

Dude was everywhere.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Not My Usual Pen Name
3 years ago

PS: Greatest 1960s solo pop music performance which no one’s ever heard – Richard “Dumbledore” Harris singing Jimmy Webb’s MacArthur Park.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=richard+harris+macarthur+park+site%3ayoutube.com

Harris was the kind of talent you’d never appreciate until he was gone, and then you’d realize only in retrospect what monumental gifts he had.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

What’s telling is that someone like Rush made all of these millions, basically being a whore. I say that with some regret, because I used to like him and listen to him, especially when I had a few hours in the car alone. His voice was a good companion. But he was paid to be a company man and to condition his listeners on what and how to think about things political and cultural. But what’s telling to me, is that if I had made all those millions I would have retired and franchised out the microphone to a younger… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Good point regarding Rush. By accounts as well as just listening to him during his hey dey, he seemed most satisfied behind the mic. However, I have yet to meet personally or know of someone that has been married 3 plus times (I think Rush was on his 4th?) who is genuinely a content and happy person. Throw in his addiction issues (not to mention how he constantly praised Buckley as his mentor figure, something that I used to just take for granted but now has much more significance to me given how I now view the great purges) and… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

Not a contented soul at all Always had an air of sadness about him, not evident when talking on radio but when you see him in pictures. But these are the ones selected to engage in what, I am not beginning to understand, has been a war to get rid of lots of people, to distract them as abortions piled up, boys turned to low-T mush, girls into sluts all incapable or reproduction. So if you do in fact make a baby, you’re advised to kill it, but better to cut that off at the pass and simply discourage people… Read more »

FeinGul
FeinGul
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

1940. 1940 was the year the Atlantic fleet went on a war footing and per their Commaning Admiral was already at war in the Atlantic. 1940 was the year British Intelligence setup in Rockefeller Center, NYC then helped create American Intelligence under Bill Donavanand the American listening stations and decoders began to share Intel on U-Boats and Germany with England , 1940 was the year the National Guard was mobilized for a year (5 actually), 1940 is when conscription began- and continued until 1973. The all volunteer army was specifically created so that wars of Empire could be politically palatable,… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

At the extremes of the various personality spectrums, and all other things being equal, a Psychopath will always win, and a Nice Guy will always finish last. I’m not saying that Limbaugh was necessarily evil in any sort of classical understanding of the term, but the Mr Nice Guy radio hosts, who lacked Limbaugh’s all-consuming drive to pwn the airwaves, would have long since dropped by the wayside. There’s a meta darwinian selection process for achieving success in these kinds of careers, and it’s a selection process which Normies can’t hope to survive. Regarding the professional comics these days, I… Read more »

acetone
Member
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

“However, I have yet to meet personally or know of someone that has been married 3 plus times (I think Rush was on his 4th?) who is genuinely a content and happy person.” Rush was an entertainer. This job probably warped his life in many respects. Had to keep an eye on his ratings constantly. Stress pushed him to do his best work but maybe also put him in a place where he needed drugs/alcohol to deal with things. Entertainers that can hang tough under constant high stress conditions are atypical, and likely have sociopathic personality components. And these personality… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

Look, Rush’s audience was not the far Right. His audience was disgruntled middle American conservatives. He was closer to the political middle and therefore still touted lots of Civnat philosophy. That’s where we lament that the majority of Whites currently are! Seems we keep on attributing all sorts duplicitous/devious behavior to anyone not right of Z-man. Rush told it as he saw it. And in his later years shifted further to the Right than many in the so called “Conservative” movement. In the end he often talked specifically of race and of *Whites* getting the short end of the stick.… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

acetone, I wrote a reply to you, which is now poasted up above here, but for the life of me, I can’t seem to master this software.

Sorry about that.

The tl;dr was that Rush was definitely a Boomer & a CivNat, but maybe not a Ticket-Taker, and that he died just a little too soon to make his own personal trip to the Rubicon.

PS: Is not Vox Day’s “Ticket Taker” terminology a nod & a tip of the hat to an old Eddie Murphy joke, from circa 1982?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuHNq07Cwms

acetone
Member
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

To Compsci: Yeah, I agree with everything you say.

I was commenting that his job was primarily that of an entertainer. Not an attack on Rush. These jobs are hard and full of stress. Might account for some of Rush’s struggles in his personal life. Also, looking at people that are working in an entertainment type profession (on TV, radio), we probably should be realistic about what to expect from them in terms of political analysis. Can’t expect perfection, IMO. Really, we are very lucky to have a guy like Tucker that mostly aligns with messages that we support.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

Compsci: “It does not automatically follow that successful conservative personalities are in some way corrupted by way of their success.” Dude. This is the wrong essay’s comment section to be trying to sell that old stale bread. Successful conservative personalities are successful precisely because they were screened with the utmost care by the Frankfurt School to be dutifully shabbos goyim who would never rock the boat much more than just very gently, i.e. largely imperceptibly vis-a-vis the larger waves in the harbor gently nudging up against the hull. “The Rush Limbaugh Show” was 110% financed by Tiny Hat advertisers. Now… Read more »

acetone
Member
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

Queuing of moderated comments is making it difficult to have a real time discussion. To Not My Usual Pen Name: I liked Mitch Hedberg back in the day. He’s been gone nearly 20 years now. You can see the nerves in him when he performed. Also, an untimely death due to substance abuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_XbtYfrNYI Also, my earlier comment was not necessarily a dig against sociopaths. Being less empathetic and anxious is an advantage in many respects. I personally would not like to surrounded by sociopaths but an “our guy” type sociopath wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing. Last thought on… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Egomania, love of ones self. Narcissus staring at his reflection in the water.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Dennis Roe
3 years ago

Cluster B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_B_personality_disorders Academic psychology & psychiatry are remarkably honest about these phenomena. The academicians just keep it all in-house, because their careers would be sh0ah’ed if they spoke openly to the general public about these matters. Speaking of “Corporate Rebels” in the psychology/psychiatry bidness, that’s precisely why the Normie cuckservative has only ever heard of Charles Murray & Jordan Peterson – because the Frankfurt School screened them very carefully to make absolutely certain that they were dutiful shabbos goyim who would never venture off the reservation and into the wider world of Truth Speak, and once the Frankfurt School… Read more »

Federalist
Federalist
3 years ago

The Young Turks . . . take their name from the Young Turk Revolution that toppled the Ottoman Empire’s monarchy.

And were responsible for the Armenian Genocide.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

I’m very talkative today but so what Again another Los Angeles story. I was with a friend who had an office on Wilshire, just off Highland, edge of Koreatown. When I drove up to the building I saw a temporary chain link fence on the setback grass and sidewalk, and didn’t think much of it and pulled into the parking garage. So he had a cute secretary and she smoked, so we went up to the fourth floor roof deck and chatted, and there was a crowd of maybe 20 or 30 now gathered outside the face hollering out some… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Heh. At least the Turk sided with his own – regardless. If that where whitey, they’d be down there kissing hairy feet and hairy ass until the cows came home. Then, when informed that it wasn’t them that were responsible for doing in the Armenians, they’d still grovel – they simply must have done something wrong. Please sir! Is there nothing for which we can grovel, they’d cry. I have had similar thoughts when walking past certain embassies in London – loads of people protesting some such, none of them English, and none of them back in their sand country… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Then, when informed that it wasn’t them that were responsible for doing in the Armenians For those who don’t know, he’s talking about the crypto-Tiny-Hats which ran the Ottoman Empire & organized & oversaw the Armenian holocaust [just like they would holodomor the Ukrainians a few decades later]. It’s all part & parcel of the ultimate goal, which is to make Neo-Khazaria goyim-free for the Khazarian Tiny Hats. [My guess is that the Mizrahim might be invited to join the club, since Persia will be part of Neo-Khazaria, but I doubt there will be any room at the inn for… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

A former CEO told me how corporate boards of directors work. He said they are hired from outside the company, as “oversight”, an innovation of the Gilded Age progressives to counter the ‘trusts’, kapitalist monopolies. He had quit his career in frustration, because every director thought he should be the CEO, and most of them were getting their orders from somewhere else. Inviting outside managers seems like the perfect vehicle for subversion and piracy. “Trusts”, monopolist corporations, used to do one thing, and do it well, the value of ‘scale’. A ship with one captain steered a certain course. A… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

My dad was a CEO of a REIT (President really, but same thing) He educated me when very young how it all works and the CEO is just a hired gun. The Board is the real boss. I had the impression that he had had more power than he did, but all his power was confined to the office and operations. You make a mistake, and boom, sayonara. But as long as you are making the company money, you are their golden boy. This was before the current arrangements when the CEO was guaranteed stocks, etc. But he did get… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2t4u_tEefM&t=2331s the limitations of the ceo of any company

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

The psyop hiding in plain sight. Normie is demoralized and pouting, but more significantly, he’s not donating to the Repubs and that has them worried as shit. What to do? Rush is dead and buried, so the usual means of public venting is kaput. We need a new carrot to dangle in front of the sheeple and keep them focused on an imaginary resurrection that is going to happen any moment now; just like Q Anon, only real this time. In steps Dan Bongino as the new mouthpiece of conservative rage. Dan will hurl endless insults at the Libs and… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Ever see Bongino’s fingers?

If you look only at his face, shoulders up, you think he’s this big brawny dude, but then he has the skinny and dainty fingers and hands, as if they stunted when the rest of his body was developing.

Strange bird

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Remember the 2020 Republican Primary debate in which Little Marco insulted the size of Trump’s “hands” and then Trump flew into a rage and started waving his hands around on stage and shouting that his “hands” were plenty big. I half-expected him to grab his crotch and then whip it out on national television. Even better, I wish that Republican Primary debates would conclude a 15 minute death-match melee in a totally fenced octogon ring and last man standing gets the nomination. I can dream.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Trump was THIS close to whipping it out

I actually think my friend watching it with me was certain Trump was going to grab his crotch. Now that you say that. Ha ha.

Watching this clown show fall apart, collapse like the Twin Towers in fact (what a foretelling).

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Musicians hands.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

great for picking his nose too

He can probably reach his brain

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

It looks like he inherited his mudshark mother’s White hands.

miforest
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

the ” new ” conservative Desantis .

Astral Turf
Astral Turf
3 years ago

Glad to see Mr. Zman make the case for the anti-white word. That’s *our* word.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Astral Turf
3 years ago

It is an excellent tool. It can be used, at least in my experience, in almost any company. It cannot be accused of being an ‘-ist’, or being nasty; it simply makes whites think for a minute that they may be victims after all.

The term racist has of course been useless for a long time. There is a reason a white man cannot be racist, and that is because it means ‘whitey done bad to blacky’ or, more generally, ‘whitey done bad to non-whitey’. But ‘anti-white’ – you’re bang on, mate – that’s our word.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
3 years ago

“The only thing that would make their enterprise more ridiculous is if the “Young Turks” were a collection of octogenarians working from the human resource department of Goldman Sachs”

Old gag

Remember that internet add from a few years ago depicting those young Asian girls along with the line. “These young entrepreneurs are disprupting the auto insurance industry”.

It turns out that those young Asian girls were the office staff, and the entrepreneurs were two middle aged Jewish men.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Sand Wasp
3 years ago

I can see that

Like “Inc.” or “Entrepreneur” magazines used to find some rather nondescript shiny young person and say “Meet the Face of the New ____” (fill in the blank) and invariably it was some dork or some girl with a shit eating grin holding a widget in their hands like it was their child. And you know they were never the brains behind any of it and half of it was purely a cover page advertisement.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

There are certain business keywords and buzzwords that cause my brain to instantly switch to a test pattern nowadays. Some of them: disruptor (and related like disruptive technology, etc…), paradigm, young entrepreneur (“of color” for extra bedazzlement), creative destruction. Basically anything you might imagine someone with a goatee telling you on a Ted talk that leaves you thinking “damn, I’m glad I didn’t pay the $10,000 admission fee for that horseshit”. In other sad news: I was driving home thing morning and heard a commercial announcing that Instagram will now allow you to UPLOAD IMAGES FROM YOUR DESKTOP!!! Wow, you… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

Stop being so disruptive.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

Funny you mention ‘disruptor’, as it featured heavily in my bosses’ management meeting. Fortunately, being a lowly grunt, I am not invited – but my manager, who is a decent chap and a good engineer thrust into the role by happenstance, cannot stand it. “What are we disrupting?” he asks… crickets. Nobody knows, but buzzwords in technology just give the higher ups the good feelz. Some more: Solution: A computer program that could give you what you want, but gives you a shed load more you don’t. Blockchain: A concept that nobody who uses it in a marketing setting understands… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
3 years ago

The scam was understood even in the 70’s: Tom Wolfe (his books Radical Chic, etc.), Gil Scott-Heron (songs like “The Revolution will not be Televised), Paddy Chayefsky (the movie “Network”) mocked their fellow Leftists about it. Certainly today’s dissident leftists (Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Noam Chomsky), as opposed to the corporate Left, understand the phenomenon. In the old, old days, social proof was earned on the streets. Like it or not, the old Right and Left battled it out openly very often. TPTB understood the need to blow off some social steam, at least until the Nazis actually succeeded. From… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

Absolutely agree with this. Fighting them on their turf is a losing proposition from the gitgo because they fully control the communication channels & indoctrination messaging. A different paradigm is needed. Better is tangible corrosion from the shadows. Sand in the gears. Sugar in the gas tank. A flaming bag of shit on their doorstep. Think outside the box and use what you know best.

Pozymandias
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

The memesters on the chans seemed to know this intuitively and came the closest any has to leaving a flaming bag of digital shit on a lot of pious doorsteps.Clever pranks and hoaxes, especially if they rope in media tools and fools, aren’t just for autistic incels anymore. They are weapons in whatever generational warfare we’re up to now (5th, 6th?)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

I came to them very late (this decade!) but I say Gil-Scott Heron and related groups, like Last Poets, were great 60s/70s urban funk, a much stronger claim to music before the drum machine and rap music sent Afro-American musical creativity into the gutter in the 80s. Remember, no matter how much a mint-julep sipping White Supremacist you may be, you must concede “those people” unusual talent in athletics and certain music 🙂

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Negroes, the stupidest, most violent and dysfunctional people on the planet, are treated like gods. I don’t much feel like giving them credit for a dam’ thing.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Ben bin Ben: Last Poets, were great 60s/70s urban funk

Sheesh.

JIDF.

Without. A. Doubt.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

Actually, the Left controls everything. But that doesn’t mean we can’t inflict terrible harm on it. And inflict terrible harm, we must.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

For me the vast majority of these online “personalities” are as bland and useless as their mainstream counterparts. I disliked Tim Pool the first time I heard him. Never bothered with the young Turks either. I listened to Scott Adams for awhile, but after awhile he is just another talking head from the chattering class.

Maybe it’s just me… but I see an offering of a 2 hour podcast from a guy that bores me to tears in 15 minutes… and I just check out.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

They all suck It all brings to mind fast food or eating out in Los Angeles. No matter where you go all the food is brought in by the same supplier and comes from the same warehouse But this place puts the Tim Pool spice on its meat. This one gets that Shapiro spice on its chicken. Even the spices come from the same company and are probably commingled in the vats because even they start to taste the same, where the cumin tastes hardly different from the thyme. The menus, chairs, lighting, all come from the same corporate supplier.… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

It’s a good analogy. The wife and I were never big ‘going out’ to restaurant types before The China Virus, perhaps it actually may have got better now – if they still keep epic gaps between the tables. But being crammed in, having sub-par food you can just cook at home – for a fraction of the price – I see no need. Plus, in our neck of the woods, you’ll come out onto the high street in the evening and be accosted by some skank/drunk/addict for sure as you pass the station. Then there’s the Covid garbage, the absurd… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I think the “explosion” of restaurants during the millennial years meant that, life being what it is, there can only be so many decent cooks and chefs in any one town and any one time. And the funny thing was, at least in Los Angeles, all they would do is go to Italy, figure out what was going on there, then rush back to L.A. and rush the new food concept to market and act like they had invented the wheel. My good friend, one of the smartest guys I know but not very travelled, but very wealthy and had… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Anyway, I’m rambling

Well it was an excellent ramble.

Pozymandias
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

We don’t have country pubs here in Murrica. The closest thing might be a biker bar but if it’s for real, you should probably be a patched-in member unless you want an ass-kicking. Anyway, I fucking hate eating out with all the Coof nonsense. Oregon is basically holding onto its lockdown status like a Portland junkie clutching his last clean needle so it’s especially obnoxious here. The ritual here the last time I went, which was months ago – (see above), is to sit on the bench in the front of the restaurant with your Karen cloth on and wait… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

The custom of tipping needs a good review in this country. From 10% to 15% to 18-20% in just about one generation. Has service improved, doubled in quality? Not a chance. And this has been compounded by every last cashier putting out a begging bowl, even when they’re not providing any service in the traditional sense. Why on earth should I pay someone extra for ringing up my order and (possibly) making change for me? It’s even more obnoxious when state laws dictate that table servers be paid less than minimum wage. In a word, they’re demanding that the customer,… Read more »

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

Last week I went out to dinner at a restaurant on the Oregon coast in a sneeze and you miss town. I reserved a table on the patio. I could literally reach out and touch the table they were putting us at from the hostess station but the dingbat manning it insisted I don the diaper for the 3 step trek. I did not. I’m sick of this stupid senseless shit and refuse to play along.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

From 10% to 15% to 18-20% in just about one generation. Has service improved, doubled in quality? Not a chance.

Have the prospects for single White mothers, with White children, improved since Alpha Chad knocked her up and then cut & ran on his family obligations?

I can’t think of a single way to better spend your money than to hand it DIRECTLY [no middle men involved] to White women raising White children.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

The scenario you posit is likely very rare, with a good chunk of the single mothers being coal burners. And why should I feel obliged to raise another man’s child?

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

The scenario you posit is likely very rare, with a good chunk of the single mothers being coal burners. And why should I feel obliged to raise another man’s child? I tried to make it very clear that I was explicitly talking about WHITE children of single WHITE mothers. Not melungeon children of mudsharks. Now having said that, you would help the poor WHITE children because they are your little brothers and your little sisters, and they are the single most precious creatures in all of your Creator’s creation. And if you were a real man, then you’d grab your… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Watch The Young Turks on Election night 2016. I think there’s a half hour compilation. It is fantastic watching them go from euphoria to the depths of the despair.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

My favorite part was Anna completely fabricating a story about being in line to vote that morning and overhearing two Trump voters “badmouthing” Latinos, Muslims, and blacks…until she bravely turned around and told them to shut up. They can’t stop lying.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

To be fair, there’s a lot to badmouth…

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

TYT is such a cringe-fest I don’t even hate-watch them.
I do know Anna tried to Me-Too The Tongue (Jimmy Dore) last week though.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

To distract from how vile Cenk is, they hired Anna, who is actually seemingly even more vile.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Anyone who is any good gets kicked off long before they can build a decent sized audience.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

I think you’re right, TT. About the only podcast I watch is from our esteemed blog host. He does an actual presentation/production. He spells out what he’s going to talk about, he makes an intelligent argument in 10 or 15 minutes, the explosion goes off, and then he’s off on another carefully thought out lecture. I can’t stand it when the hosts start to banter, or devolve into bad standup comedy. I’m almost tempted to listen to Bill Mitchell on Blab for the yuks. Watching him try to handle the dissident hecklers is comedy gold. But even that gets old…… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
3 years ago

Reading this article, it makes me envision the conservatives as the muscle for the left, the bouncers at the door to the mansion frisking everyone for weapons or contraband

And I can just see, Shapiro sitting there in the cloak room watching the security monitors and in charge of giving the final say if someone with no weapons or contraband but just something off about him can be allowed in.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Shapiro would also be rifling through the coat pockets for loose change.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  MikeCLT
3 years ago

Shapiro would also be rifling through the coat pockets for loose change.

LOL’ed [literally].

Thread winner.

Next essay.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Never gets old: American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. . . . Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Heh. I saw what you did there. You substituted “American” for “Northern”. The quote is by Robert Lewis Dabney, a Confederate soldier, and the entire quote is here…

https://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/robert-lewis-dabney-on-conservatism/

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

“Something off” like a man with a jawbone and shoulders.

Falcone
Falcone
3 years ago

I’m praying that the Taki article penetrates the thick skulls of conservatives. I don’t think they’ve ever been introduced to the concepts in that article, If they sit there, ruminate, digest, it could really start to change their ways of thinking — all to our collective benefit.

I’m a believer in the power of prayer, so let’s see how this goes.

Nice work, Z Man.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

The Taki piece was one of the finest that I’ve ever read.

As I noted on Gab, we can’t win if we accept the other side’s morality. Using their language forces us to fight on their turf, to debate according to their morality. We have to come up with our own language to create our own morality.

“Anti-White” instead of “racist” is the perfect example of this.

Texas Chainsaw Makeover
Texas Chainsaw Makeover
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I like the use of ‘genocidal’ as well as ‘anti white’.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

“The ordinary modes of human thinking are magical, religious, social, and personal. We want our wishes to come true; we want the universe to care about us; we want the approval of those around us; we want to get even with that s.o.b who insulted us at the last tribal council. For most people, wanting to know the cold truth about the world is way, way down the list.” This is undeniably true. So why then do opponents of the cathedral continue banging their heads against this wall with attacks based on logic and reason? The reality is that the… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I doubt they ever wanted to be set free in the first place.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I think it’s fair to say that “logic” and “reason” are their modes of magical thinking. We always find that their reasoning or logic is hardly that at all and always more like a nerf sword they bring to the costume party

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

True. The paleo-politik crossfit culture of consrvativism lends to its own kind of magic mirror flexing that always seems to keep even the most fledgling actions from the daylight of reality and instead morally bound to the basement.

You see those aren’t foam swords, they are selfie sticks.

The moral self-licensing pumped out by those basement philosophers is incredibly strong.

I know men on our side of things that are still failing to matriculate beyond the non-aggression lib-trolling twitteratti brain-trust even after repeatedly experiencing the emptiness that rushes in after forwarding all those meme tweet takedowns by conInc POCs.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

It’s crazy Like when there used to be this collegiality between the Rs and Ds, such as my “friend on the other side of the aisle.” How can they be friends if one side is trying to tear the country apart and are calling your constituents terrorists? Would a true representative stand for that? Of course not, ergo they are not a true representative. Not one of the Rs has come out and said something as banal and milquetoast as “Hey come on guys, don’t you think calling these people terrorists is a little too much?” I would think Hawley… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

You know what’s really going on.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

While I agree that some people are more willing to look at objective reality than others, I still think Hume was right when he said, “Reason is the slave of the passions.”

Even smart people have outcomes that dictated by their emotions and then they deploy their reason to justify what they want.

Reason does not imply morality, unless you supplement your reason with assumptions about the outcomes you desire.

So, let’s just say what we want and put reason to work in supporting that. We want an approximate ethnostate, not because reason demands it, but because we want it.

Gauss
Gauss
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Hume got it right while Li’l Ben Shapiro has it exactly backwards. Feelings don’t care about your facts. Aside from the few (possibly autistic) individuals, facts and reason are of little importance for people. Another quote from Derb’s site:
The faintest of all human passions is the love of truth.
– A. E. Housman

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

My brain forgot Cenk & Tim Pool existed, I assumed social media corporations would have pulled from their basements some fresh faces to replace the old guard by now. I guess Bernie, due to his tribal heritage is permitted to keep his small platform, there was also some benjamin working there, descended from communists, so i kinda get why they’re still going, same applies to the other youtube benjie, the midget one. Did the turks at least hire a fresh twat to repeat the same “free thinking & neutral” bullet points, cause kasparian definitely wasn’t one.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
3 years ago

…”Most important, they get to hate on the bad guys. That is the real draw of this sort of corporate sponsored politics. You get to safely hate your enemies”.

It’s fun to hate the bad guys in safety & comfort – and be admired for it is a bonus.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
3 years ago

That is all so true, like when you see the Antifa vs Proud Boy brawls, all taking place in what amounts to a warehouse where people sign in, suit up, and play paintball wars with referees making sure they don’t get out of line, get hurt, do something stupid, cheat, and so forth. It’s a closed environment with the cops serving as the referees.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Social Proof is the regime’s primary way of making people fall in line. If you can control this signal, it’s amazing how fast people’s views evolve. Full acceptance of homosexuality was done in a decade due to the internet and corporate monoliths being able to ruthlessly push every bit of propaganda relentlessly for a month. What became a fringe issue is now the core moral virtue of the Regime. People fell in line with the Coronoavirus scare even faster, due to the existential threat and the original institutional trust in the CDC and WHO. It took over a decade for… Read more »

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I think you and Zman hit the nail on the head with these two quotes. These are the main human motivations driving mass culture today: “Social Proof is the regime’s primary way of making people fall in line. If you can control this signal, it’s amazing how fast people’s views evolve.” Social signalling today is easier and more pervasive then ever. There are just too many ways to go about doing it. ”Most important, they get to hate on the bad guys. That is the real draw of this sort of corporate sponsored politics. You get to safely hate your… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

The wuhan time out quickly sorted people and sheeple in stark contrast. But living in that social deprivation chamber of “all in this together” as the social media virus leaked approved feelz into reality, like morons howling from the safety of their porches, has attuned my senses of not just the high percentage of NPCs, but also what passes for essential among normie life. As sheeples emerge to “enjoy the summer” I am starting to wonder if I am the one clinging to some alternative dimension as it relates to my sense of some shared “Culture”. Sure there are community… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Excellent description of sentiments I have felt about the, “return to normal.”

I too have a strong sense that most are simply just going through the motions at this point.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

It has been several years coming but I have reached the acceptance (the 5th) stage on the 5 stages of grief. The country of my birth is gone. As I have said before, I have adopted the attitude of the border jumpers. This is just a place to live, extract resources, and shop. Local activism in your community is about the only place where meaningful changes maybe possible but that is iffy too because the reach of globohomo is long, even into deep red areas.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

TheFinn over at Gab had another good quip today; when someone mentioned about how good life was in some small American town back in the day he pointed out that it existed in America, no tbecause of America, that the same people in the same town elsewhere would have functioned much the same.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

There’s a lady on my street that has the full package of progressive signals.

The Pride Flag
The ‘We Believe’ progressive creed
The “I Dissent” Ginsburg icon (This one is the most hilarious)
The “I stand with PP” bumper sticker.

Rest assured, if Hitler rose from the dead and ascended to supreme dictator with the full media apparatus at his disposal, they would all morph overnight to Swastikas, and she would just stand confused if you brought up she was a radical progressive last week.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

Does anyone else find that young people used to be more rebellious in the true sense of the word? I remember guys would play the devils advocate or the contrarian just for the sport of it. Just to cause trouble. Today, they all fall in line so readily and smoothly like they are all greased up and being pushed through a tube

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Testosterone has plummeted due to a mix of obesity, medications, environmental toxins, and a stifling social environment.

No testosterone, no rebellion.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I have never really stopped to this about the testosterone angle, but I think you are on to something. And we have to accept that it was all intentionally done to them. Of course it was. This country, or the government and society, really is something else. The extent they go to to assure there is no threat to them. Turning our boys into eunuchs. Our girls into whores. And the shittiest part of it is just so they can be driven around in a limo in DC and NYC and pal around with a guy like Epstein and bang… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I think most of the kids see themselves as rebels. Its all inverted; conformity is rebellion.

When the badwhites want to boil the earth in flaming petrol and stuff Trump autographed bibles in young women’s instagram coin slots in place of empowerment, its easy for them to feel like David to the Goliath of Badwhite.

Factor in that they live inside the rainbow and are looking out.

Globohomo has literally raised most of them from birth. The white devil haunts them. Tilting at badwhite is a defining aspect of their culture.

Reynard
Reynard
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Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

“tilting at badwhite” perfect

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

This is undoubtedly true and is evident with the COVID panic face diapers. College kids wear them religiously and appear to have no interest in anything other the blind adherence to being made to wear them. My 21- year old step-daughter hangs out with her BF while they wear masks. And the drop in testosterone levels in obvious in this age group. Most of the guys appear frail and slightly effeminate. It’s all quite depressing.

Au Jus
Au Jus
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Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I talk about this often with friends… The conformity among young men is truly astonishing to me… They are supreme rule followers… They don’t swear, many are vegetarian or vegan and they are as inoffensive as they are physically weak. Millennials are pathetic.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Au Jus
3 years ago

Losing the culture war has subjected these boys to immeasurable damage. Deracinating and emasculating them into compliant drones. Go sit thru a HS or college history course. Or english lit. Or even “science”. Most of us would be shocked and disgusted. The PC rituals I had back in the ‘80’s and 90’s are quaint. Its been turned up to 11 and the boys will do anything (or not do anything) for just five minutes of being left alone or maybe just maybe get the approval of some xirl. Its why we need to be absolutely unapologetically shitlord around the youngins.… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The gay acceptance/marriage whatever agenda was an interesting thing precisely because… it affected hardly anyone. The people who stood to gain were (and are) in a tiny minority. However, nowadays, you simply must have an opinion – and a positive one – on the gays. Through simple propaganda, an actual issue affecting a minority has morphed into an issue ‘affecting’ a large portion of society. Every time I hear one of the ‘affected’ lamenting the treatment of Homer Seckshalls, I find myself asking ‘Yes, but what is it to you?’. As you mention (and so too Reynard below) it is… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“Full acceptance of homosexuality.” It’s astonishing to think Obama, circa 2008, actually opposed gay “marriage.”

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

“Full acceptance of homosexuality.” It’s astonishing to think Obama, circa 2008, actually opposed gay “marriage.”

The Frankfurt School had to defend his cover story [married man with children].

It wasn’t until the Reggie Love Train bodyman stories started popping up everywhere that Normie Cons began to realize the guy was exceptionally light in the loafers.

Plus the pictures of the bulge in Michael Obama’s leotards didn’t help matters.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I maybe drifting a bit off topic, as I’m prone to. I just finished Nicholas Wade’s “A Troublesome Inheritance.” I’ll spare a complete review of the book; you can seek it online if you please. Overall, I’d say the book explored the race realism issue pretty well (it pissed off the usual suspects, which is a good sign!). Even so, he throws a few bones to the Left. For example, those awful Eugenicists of the early 20th century, led to the strong restrictions on immigration. You see, America is to blame for not accepting a flood of Jewish and other… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

“Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark … next to some kid with purple hair, next to some queer with AIDS, right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It’s depressing.” and, “The biggest thing I don’t like about New York are the foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they… Read more »

Deplorable Me
Deplorable Me
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

I recall Colin Quinn on SNL saying ‘you can John Rocker a racist and a bigot, but he’s definitely been on the #7 train’.

Member
3 years ago

The best way to understand the world is to recognize that everything is a business model

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Raymond R
3 years ago

Hmmm. I am afraid I do not see that way, at least not anymore. Your point has merit for large corporations perhaps, as well as many individuals. But so many people are, quite frankly, soulless and spiteful. And a will to bring misery to any normal person seems to be more important to them than profit of the monetary variety.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The word for people like that is

Losers.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I think the “soullessness” is part of the corporatization of the human animal in the past 10-20 years

They’ve all been acquired by mega corps and polished and repackaged

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

So I guess now we know the answer to the age old question, “what does it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his soul?”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Raymond R
3 years ago

If you’re right, how do you explain the homosexuality and miscegenation in almost all advertising? Few people want that.

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/race-mixing-advertising-comic-png.1449816/

Drew
Drew
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

If you have any familiarity with the mercantile and colonization policies of, say, the 17th and 18th centuries, it might help to understand that appealing to niche market segments is akin to capturing the last few small islands in the Pacific. All the big territories (market segments) are essentially owned, so all that’s left are the small ones, and mostly for prestige rather than profit.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

I appreciate the historical perspective, but do you believe that our enemy’s motivation is money (“business plan”) or ideology?

I’m not saying that profit doesn’t matter, although they often leave money on the table, but money seems subordinate to ideological domination.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

I don’t think there’s any arguing that point. They do it because their god tells them to.

Reynard
Reynard
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3 years ago

I have to admit it is breathtaking how easy it was to subvert the progressive movement in a decade or so. Just recently I’ve noticed how the former “buy-local” crowd now mock “conservative conspiracy theorists” for drinking raw milk. The same people who peddled “alternative medicine” 15 years ago, are now demeaning anyone who questions St. Fauci and the vaccine. There is no negotiation or dialogue with people like that.

Whitney
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Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

If you ever want to fly again you have to get one of these pseudo vaccines. They’re not that many people who can and will say, today, fine I will never fly again. Flying becomes the signal that you accept the system.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

It funny you mention this now, Whitney, as this has been a serious topic of conversation between my wife and I. No way I want that stuff in me; you take it and then you’re right – you accept the system. So what? No flying… so be it. I had been of the mindset that maybe in a couple of years I’d do it, you know, when Science! tells me it’s safe – but I think it would be a crushing defeat for me really. I simply don’t trust these people, and I have read enough and seen enough to… Read more »

Whitney
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Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I have no idea how dangerous this virus is. I know a lot of people that have had that they’re all fine. I know a lot of people have been vaccinated they’re all fine also. What seems clear though the people relentlessly pushing it are on the side of evil. They are evil. Don’t do what evil tells you to do. That’s what I’m going with

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Yes. Quite so. It is the non-stop pushing.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Flying like Icarus.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Wait, what? Brilliant insight- that’s how they’ll embed and enforce it, how they’ll make it a norm without an official ‘law’.

If so, then that means the natives of Hawaii are going to get wiped by another weird white disease again.

Everybody there gets to and from the mainland for work with a cheap flight on Sundays and Fridays. This time the measles will be artificial.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

If you ever want to fly again you have to get one of these pseudo vaccines.

Fortunately I decided never to fly again right after the TSA came into being. If I cannot drive someplace I. DON’T. GO!!! It’s just that simple.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Bill Mullins
3 years ago

That’s how I feel about. The security theater is demeaning and demoralizing, and adds so much time to the trip that it makes faraway destinations less appealing. Factor in the relative lack of direct flights, at least where I live, and travel has become a real chore, and an expensive one at that.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Yes, it sucks goat testes to be sure. No doubt about that. I cannot be sure, but I think it was thanks to the Musselmen that the security went overboard. So you have that. Now with the Covid theater (whose rules, it seems, change daily) it is unbearable. Good point about lack of direct flights too. Also, coming back to your country and being asked for your passport, looked at and spoken too in a hostile manner, and perhaps questioned by… a bloody foreigner. Here in the UK, the border force at London Gatwick seems to attract many, many sand… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

I can’t tell you how that makes my blood boil, OF. When I return from the Far East I generally have to pass customs and immigration in Chicago and the passport area, with the exception of the agents behind the glass, is almost completely staffed by foreigners. Loud, bossy foreigners who hate their job and hate you.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

My colleagues are increasingly becoming ‘crunchy’ local first people who find local farmers and go to Farm Markets while progressives who can afford more and more just seem to just shop at Whole Foods. Still largely a progressive subculture, but it’s quickly changing, and some of the old guard are defending their turf.

https://adflegal.org/country-mill-farms-story

Progressive culture is based primarily on social signaling rather deep belief, so they are much more fluid when it comes to the ideological shifts of the ruling class.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“But then, without warning, Country Mill was asked to leave the market…The reason? They communicated their religious viewpoint on marriage…”
That’s incredible. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but hopefully they don’t find themselves tangled up in any more sudden “red-tape” or anything.
I’m currently buying from local farms in my neck of the woods. There is solid opportunity for community building in this area.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“Progressive culture is based primarily on social signaling rather deep belief, so they are much more fluid when it comes to the ideological shifts of the ruling class.”

Yes, wow, yes!
Why trust deep belief if everything you’re told is constantly a lie?

The ability to fleetly chase the fad will be what gets handsomely rewarded.

Shallow, selfish skimmers win!

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

Kind of brings to mind something that has been percolating in my head for some time Hard to explain precisely, but here goes. Like the whole farmers market thing. In Italy, for example, there is no social mission needed to get people to prefer and demand fresh foods and straight from the farm. No matter a person’s background, they all get that this is how food is supposed to be. But here, they needed a mission, almost a religious cause to bring about the same thing. And it became a way of life for the young and educated, a signifier… Read more »