Note: The audio quality is a little wonky this week. The opening is a click faster than normal and some bits in the middle are a bit slower than normal. I record these in pieces and when they were spliced together something went wrong. I did not have time to di into it and it is not that big of a deal, but it has been noted.
The response to the show last week was not what I expected, as I did not think the content of the show was all that good. I got a lot of feedback from people who had been involved in organizing and activism. It looks like this is a topic on the minds of people who have experience with trying to organize at the grassroots level. A few people suggested writing about the basics of organizing, which is a good idea. Our side has nothing in that regard. The Left has tons of material.
The closest our side has to handbooks on organizing is stuff people ripped off from the far-left that has been repackaged with a new title. The Alinsky tract Rules for Radicals becomes Rules for Conservative Radicals. Imitating winners is never a terrible idea, but the people in charge organize under different rules than those seeking to oppose or subvert those in charge. The goals are obviously different, but the range of motion is different due to the imbalance of power and resources.
That is why there is a limit as to how much can be borrowed from the Left when it comes to organizing and activism. This starts with the right-wing radical breaking free of the belief that he speaks for a majority. There is no doubt that the majority would nod along to what he says but they will not lift a finger until they get permission from the people in charge, who are the Left. Throwing energy at trying to mobilize those who quietly agree takes away from effective organizing.
This is something I did not include in the show, but it has been a bane of right-wing causes since forever. The Left is always looking to convert people to their cause, while the Right always seeks to mobilize the converted to the moment. This is why the Left is implacable, never taking no for an answer. It is also why the Right so readily accepts defeat and then internalizes it. Left-wing politics is about overcoming popular objections while right-wing politics is about counting noses.
It is a big subject and deserves a much longer treatment. The show this week is mostly thinking out loud about some aspects of organizing. It really would make for a good book, but I need to finish the book I have three quarters finished. Maybe if I ever get that done, I will take a stab at this topic in more detail. It would also make for a good video series, since young people prefer pictures to words. Young people do most of the activism, so they are the proper audience.
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This discussion about whether to organize and have firm leaders lends me to think of the largest mutual-aid society the world has ever known, Alcoholics Anonymous. Its famous 12 Traditions include “AA, as such, ought never be organized” (Tradition 9) and “our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern” (Tradition 2). For reasons that are not entirely clear to me even after many decades, the distributed responsibility and decentralized authority of Alcoholics Anonymous has been the key to its success. Of course we get bad apples–all the time!–but the movement prospers despite (or perhaps even because of–“there but… Read more »
‘You cannot defeat calculated strategy with personal pugnacity.’ – David Hines, How The Right Can Organize Like The Left
I mentioned a couple of days ago that a woman is running a write-in campaign for school board. My local Republican contacts tell me she was asked if she was interested in running by the Republicans at the nomination meeting but said she was just interested in seeing how the process works. She subsequently started her campaign, as a Republican, it should be noted. The Republicans are very unhappy about this because they think she’ll split the vote and a Democrat will get in. I’m also told she’s backed by a local construction interest, which is intriguing. To be clear,… Read more »
“I’m also told she’s backed by a local construction interest…”
Developers always win. This makes me furious but from my experience, few people care.
When your nice smallish town becomes unrecognizable and unlivable, recall my words.
Shakespeare said something like when the revolution comes we’re going to kill all the lawyers. I say dispatch the developers first.
I agree. Not a fan of the whole real estate game.
I’d add, though, developers only win because they want the land more.
Goes to white flight. It’s been less costly for most people to run than stand and fight. Obama put an end to that with universal section 8. The work from home crowd won’t be willing to operate from their cabin in the middle of nowhere. A guy needs his craft beer, good schools, and farm-to-table restaurants, after all.
Or humanity is as malleable as the social engineers think, in which case they’ll progress to oblivion and celebrate it.
It only looks like they’re on the march. In the end they’ve planted the seeds of their destruction.
More of this, Please
https://gizadeathstar.com/2021/10/ranchers-decide-to-open-meat-small-processing-plants/
That’s happening more than anyone knows. I’m selling meat raised by a nice lady who I started buying meat from. Over time, we developed a relationship (business), and I realized the area my farm is in really doesn’t have a source for high quality beef and pork, at reasonable prices. I simply bought a few freezers, and filled them up. I’m only open a few days a week, but my customers are loyal and local. It’s butchered professionally and inspected. I’ll do it till it doesn’t pay, but right now, everyone wins. We don’t, however, deal in high volume. No… Read more »
The ignorance displayed regarding the Proud is pathetic. Yet it’s pretty much universal.
To Z Man and Commenters:
We’ve been discussing organization. I’d like to hear your thoughts on https://nationaljusticeparty.com/2021/09/01/media2rise-documentary-trailer-released/
Don’t hold back. Let’s hear the criticisms.
Clown Shoes. The matching golf shirt / khakis really got us far in C-Ville, innit? You may as well throw roman salutes while you are at it. Those little ‘tells’ are a glown-gger magnet and you will have probably 1/3rd of the room full of FIBs. These people never learn and never will. This hardcore style repels as much as it attracts. You want to start a little ‘club’? Some helpful pointers for alt-right tards that still haven’t gotten the memo. Start a club around: attending school board meetings, getting a local official elected to office, having a friendly social… Read more »
It is also why I will either having to end up starting my own ‘thing’ or really shopping around.
Are you free now to leave DC?
Yes, for the first time in a —long— time. Stay Tuned.
C’mon my commenter brothers, unleash you vitriol.
Tell me why I’m an idiot for supporting these guys. I can take it.
I can tell you that the vetting is pretty restrictive. I wasn’t allowed to attend these events because I didn’t know enough of the East Coast guys in person.
Z, are you going to be let me be such a fool? Tell me about all the mistakes that I’m making.
I can’t think of anything new to say about that scene. Given the track record of the people involved, the safe bet is that it ends poorly.
Not for nothing, but one organization that really seems to be coming together is USFreedomFlyers.org, which I think was founded by the SouthWest Airline pilots who opposed the mandatory jab.
If you follow their account on Gab, it’s pretty clear that they’ve managed to organize quite a few rallies in many locations in short order. That’s pretty impressive.
Tom Woods has a half hour interview with the founder here:
https://tomwoods.com/ep-1992-airline-employees-fight-back-against-mandates/
If a White boy walks into a prison, the first thing he does is look into the eyes of Whites, because witjhout them, he knows he’s dead. Now we’re on prison planet. Tribal, 24-7. You won’t have to try to connect, it’ll come naturally. Shlomo wants a genocide, his 100 year plan coming to fruition…what he’s gonna get is a fucking revolution.
Good episode. There is an unspoken barrier to effective organizing on the Right in that it takes strength and maturity. People cling to their 69 point thesis on the perfect country or some utopian vision detailing how they would set things straight if they had a ten million man army and the most lethal secret police in human history because such grandiose visions are ill-defined and therefore easy for a weak and immature person to spend their time on. It is underpants gnome thinking, where step 2 is left undefined because all the things in step 2 require strength and… Read more »
“People cling to their 69 point thesis on the perfect country or some utopian vision…” I don’t see dissidents dividing over minutiae. I see three different organizing principles that dissidents divide over. White ethnostate Christian state Libertarianism It’s likely that these approaches are incompatible, although I’d like to be surprised. My view: A Christian state will fail because most white Christians believe that Christ can make blacks less tribal, criminal, and stupid. Further, most non-whites interpret Christianity as supporting their tribalism, so they’re really tribalists. Libertarianism fails because organized groups defeat rugged individuals almost every time. Further, for non-whites, tribalism… Read more »
A de facto White ethnostate is a long way off. However, that does not in any way undermine the clarity of purpose or analysis that comes from embracing White Identity Nationalism.
Whites have been taught to hate Whites. Part of what needs to be done is to wedge a little sympathy for White people into all that ’empathy’ for non-Whites.
My view is that ‘Christians’ will never have their ‘Christian state’ unless it addresses racial issues in a way that satisfies White Identity Nationalists because they are significant part of any Christian contingency that is thinking in terms of ‘ethnostate’.
I increasingly am of the opinion that the best metaphor for growing an organization is a gardening one; finding a healthy ( merely innocuous will do) root stock and grafting a shoot onto it to produce the fruit of choice. Eaton Rapids Joe does a bunch of it..
Any start up will inevitably attract the malign attention afforded to Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
‘Any start up will inevitably attract the malign attention afforded to Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.’ It has become clear that both these organizations were honeypots. Possibly from their inception. The key to avoiding ‘malign attention’ is to blend in and that means engaging in ‘community organizing’ as a member of your community for issues that are supported by your community but making sure that White interests are protected instead of undermined. I think that the movement for White self-respect and the pursuit of White interests can be successfully pursued using the same model as that of the gay liberation… Read more »
Great show Z-man! Last week’s show was also great. Lots of good points. The Vietnam reference reminded me of the best Vietnam book I’ve read, The Elephant and the Tiger.
I’ve kind of stopped reading and listening to Z. His “Five Olds” video was revelatory to me, but since then everything has changed. This morning, in the span of 30 minutes, I sat mere feet away and watched as four people resigned from a large defense contractor over the vaccine mandate. People are quitting their jobs and completely altering the employment landscape. Millions of others face the prospect of losing their livelihoods over a very questionable medical procedure. This is absolutely unprecedented. In their own way, these people are dissidents. Z is talking about organizing, but people ARE organizing. They’re… Read more »
pobody’s nerfect?
“The premise that one must be “organized” to resist is false and is promoted by those who want you to get into the boxcar. Indeed organization is where tyranny flows from, whether corporately or from government. It is the tool of the tyrant who can infiltrate or misdirect organization and is thwarted by unorganized individuals of like mind as there is no way to know in advance of their action who said persons are.”
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad
Resistance is fine, but somebody’s going to rule in the aftermath.
I think the guy gifted me Disco Elysium on Steam went by something similar. Great game, BTW, as long as you don’t take its ideological themes too seriously; even then it’s a pretty well written RPG.
Falling on your sword (or pension) is not ‘organizing’ in the sense that ‘community organizing’ uses the term.
The left can organize better because it controls the cities, the deep blue islands in a light pink ocean. It controls the cities because the cost of living is inflated by the bankers, and only childless nihilists and sociopaths can afford to live there. Conservatives live in subdivisions where you have to drive 15 minutes at minimum just to get somewhere, which makes organization difficult and public protests simply impossible. Conservatives won’t build new cities because the financing is too difficult, because bankers are childless nihilists (think Scrooge) who invest based on ideology, not money, because they’re already rich duh.… Read more »
Too many “business” metaphors in today’s ramble, Z. While we are organizing and screening and holding meetings and drawing up mission statements and conducting ourselves “like a business” – a metaphor you used constantly today, our masters and their minions are conducting themselves like a religion, a religion in the midst of a Holy Crusade. Business is not inspiring; business is boring, no one (except a mercantile drone) dedicates their blood, muscle and spirit to business. Most people work because it’s required for survival, not because it is spiritually fulfilling. More Carlyle, de Maistre, and Evola, less Zig Ziglar (I… Read more »
Too strong but true. There’s no enemy of freedom/”whiteness”/etc. worse than Business Guy, and telling us to be more like him is an error. It’s not an ill-intentioned or *total* error, though. You have to be persuasive, locally, and in Z’s locality that means being business-guy persuasive. In mine there’s nothing more repulsive. We can tell by Z’s voice what kind of dude he is, right? And for that kind of dude to say what he says is honest and right. But when, e.g., Millennial Woes says the same kind of thing, we should be like “WTF? Don’t you know… Read more »
Thats why Trump was so good. He was a fresh leader. Thats what we need, a Hitler
You’d need an economic shakeup for a new Hitler to arise. Hitler also had the benefit of a weak young democracy to berate and attack verbally into giving him all the power. America is a mature and established one. Your Hitler would have to be a Super-Hitler with cape included.
Or it’ll lead to yet another meme president who doesn’t do anything in office.
damn, this is just a test to see what trips the moderation.
The Broderbund were a secret society. Test, apologies
Well the moderation Nazi software remains opaque.
Makes me wonder if the software was written by a jew.
Zman – Just yesterday read an excellent history of leftist organizing during the Spanish Civil War proposed as a good roadmap for the nascent DR to follow. It’s by Karl Dahl (author of terrific novel “Faction” which you recommended here long ago) and he said he looked into this as part of his research for a sequel to the novel (cannot wait to read). Anyhow, quite a detailed model on how to organize cadres and operational security: https://thepeoplessamizdat.substack.com/p/the-spanish-cnt-fai-anarchist-defense
I thought of that right away as well. My first thought was “boy that seems like a lot of work”, which actually gives it some credence. If it was in any way easy we’d already have this in the bag.
Another good breakdown of how the leftists organize can be found in the novel The Ugly American, which was set in a fictional Southeast Asian nation during the “domino theory” era and documents the tug-of-war between the communists and the nascent American intelligence agencies.
Last week, the Z-man mentioned on his podcast that he’d recommended to a group of younger dissidents that they organize socially first, leave the overtly political for later. There’s a lot of wisdom in that. What can the DR offer young recruits that will ultimately make them receptive to our wisdom?
Can there be organization in the social domain without religion?
Rituals, festivities, commemorations, etc. play a significant role in generating infra-political mobilizations.
I think we should not organize at all. Organization has been tried, over and over again, and has failed. Orban is about to ousted in another Color Revolution, the same with Law and Justice in Poland. The FT already has the gay Mayor of Budapest penciled in as the new leader of the all Gay Hungary. Organization failed in the UK, Ireland, France, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and is about to fail in Poland and Hungary. Smart, dedicated, non weirdo men and women dedicated their lives to organizing on the right, and they all failed. Miserably.… Read more »
Whiskey: No public organizing or attempts to work within the current political structure – I agree wholeheartedly. But limited and careful organizing on a revolutionary model, with each individual accruing specific knowledge and expertise, would be highly useful once the federal behemoth starts to break down. Highly speculative, of course, because until the security organs and their electronic surveillance network can equally be degraded, not much can be done but wait.
“I think we should not organize at all. Organization has been tried, over and over again, and has failed”. Demonstrably untrue as evidenced by our enemies. If nothing else organize to emerge from the collapse in a position to thrive and conquer. I sorta get where you are coming from, but you tread close to nihilistic defeatism. Maybe the grip of the elites is perilously weak. They certainly seem panicky.
” If nothing else organize to emerge from the collapse in a position to thrive and conquer.”
That’s the secondary reason to organize and a great one. The first reason is survival.
I would argue that the alternative to “organizing” is education and training. Rather than trying (and often failing) to persuade others to adopt new or different ideas, a better use of effort is to show them how to get fit, become productive, protect themselves, and use their brains to accomplish important goals. A cornered rat will fight to the death if it’s the only option available. And a robust and intelligent rat can be a formidable opponent when the Jackboots come a calling at 3:00am.
At this point all we can do against the Globohomo octopus is scrawl “It’s Okay To Be White” wherever we can – and wait.
Just watched the classic film “Falling Down” (1993) again. Aerospace Engineer Michael Douglas’ speech “I am obsolete, I am not economically viable – I should have studied to be a Plastic Surgeon” perfectly describes the fate of straight White men 28 years ago.
All we can do is go underground. And wait.
Well said whiskey, how much longer are they going to stand for people getting shot on cannon dr or rodeo dr while eating some lunch.
Much of our ruling elite is a death cult and will tolerate nay encourage levels of violence and depravity that would shock you. I mean 60+ million abortions most for convenience were considered as a public good to the point of a sacrament when threatened with regulation. I could see eugenic abortion, its maybe justifiable as the greatest good but mass murder of children so that women could feel good about themselves or enter the work force for cheap labor is satanic depravity. There are saner members of the elite and if a way can be found to move a… Read more »
Excellent analysis, Whiskey. To illustrate your point, I just read a regime media piece about the Democrats moving to tax billionaires to pay for Shanika’s bastards and hair extensions. The tone was mildly critical because of supposed deficiencies with the plan but, of course, the regime media wants to protect billionaires. They found a “center-right” Republican (of course) group and quoted its leader urging a more broad-based plan to extract wealth from the middle class. We should get thoroughly behind the Left’s plan to take billionaires’ money. Urge it on. As for organization, I fall between you and Z. It… Read more »
The Broderbund was the secret society that installed apartheid in South africa. Probably worth looking at as a model. Z touched upon the substrate that one wishes to organize with the rift about ginger koreans. It seems to me to deserve serious consideration. Who are the groups that might be amendable organizing into cohesive blocks? Western-ranching Mormon families, trad caths, Blue collar whites in the extractive or transport industries, Appalachian whites seem like prospects off the top of my head. Also the social media platforms seem too powerful a tool to simply write off. Bifurcated organizations with a public normie… Read more »
Another South African model worth looking at and learning from is the independent white community of Orania.
Orania exists due to a loophole in the SA constitution. It is technically a corporation. I’m afraid the civil rights act limits our ability to replicate here. Loss of freedom of association. Access to whites is a legal right.
There is a good mini doc on Orania here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xumKa_mEIF8
One of the important points the VP of Orania makes (at about 10 min) is that in his view Afrikaans lost their self determination due to their dependence on other people they used to do their labor, which then took over the country.
Sound familiar?
This idea of self determination by one’s own labor in a homogeneous community is exactly what is being discussed here, but they are actually doing it.
“the rift about ginger koreans”
WHats that?
THis is an interesting take. Normie may not be reachable. Having a gun club or a trivia night with normie may not do it. When the chips are down, where will normie be?
But identifying differnt groups like the ones you mentioned sounds interesting….
I forwarded this along to some friends who I think would benefit from it; Great Job!
Wokeness is ascendant so it’s a tautology that every individual, organization, or ideology that has opposed it has failed. That doesn’t mean that they were inherently flawed, disorganized or acting in bad faith. Unless you yourself organize and succeed where they have failed I’m not sure why anyone should listen to your takes.
Wokeness was ascendant when cops were throwing Wobblies in jail. Now the cops protect them and jail their opponents. They look the part of a vulnerable establishment imo.
Doxing seems to work well for the left, publishing the address of “enemies” like Tucker Carlson. Spending a few evenings following liberal judges, DA’s, CEO’s, even school board members home from their work place and publishing their address might make them think.
Our side refuses to do that since we see ourselves as superior. So forget about it ever happening. Too many conservatives are f**king twats and still think it’s 1985 and the old rules still apply. How many attempts do you see of our side putting out flyers mocking the Woke and Left? Zero. And this is the most simple and easiest thing to do. Moldbug nailed when he labeled the Right as “water buffalo s” who do nothing as the Left(Apex predators) simply kill one water buffalo after another. Our side lacks the innate aggressiveness to do squat except to… Read more »
To add to RWC1963’s comment, it’s like conservatives believe that being mugged by reality was one-and-done and can’t comprehend that they may be due for a brutal raping by reality in the years to come
Reminds me of a description of how they slaughtered thousands of Bison at a time. The Bison on the edges of the vast herds were always looking for predators, so if you use rifles and shoot the ones in the middle moving outwards, the herd never reacts to the animals dropping dead in their midst. They have the wrong predator radar. This sees to be similar here. The right is always looking for external enemies that come marching over the hill, yet inside their institutions are being blown to bits and like Bison they stand looking at this, chewing the… Read more »
sucks, but you are right. Maybe thats why we are told not to “do” anything….
Can you imagine, in the 60s, the Weathermen saying, “now hold on, boys, we don’t have to do anything!”
Our side refuses to do that because we would get punished. An antifa following Tucker home gets praised and tenure, a DR following Rachel Maddow home (besides the nausea) gets prosecuted. This is another classic example of Z’s point regarding the UtR rally.
Din C. Nuttin: Publishing anything today would also likely get you jailed for vague ‘threats.’ That said, I think every member of the DR ought to pick one or two judges, lawyers, federal officials, etc. and learn their addresses, family members’ names and addresses, work and leisure patterns, home layout, approaches, and so forth. Purely for academic purposes, of course, and with some considerations towards the future. Just consider the utility of such a database on potentially thousands of functionaries.
And this is one thing that is always the barrier. Even the active part of the right is generally not a welfare bum, living at home with mom, drifting between college and low paid jobs with a nihilist outlook for themselves and everyone else. So for those working with a chance of success or trying to do the family, jail is a major issue, for the fodder the left churn out, not so much. As pickle rick pointed out the financial donor support for these pressure groups also means jail time is not a hindrance as the backers pay the… Read more »
If pre-2020 immunology was a true science and current_year therapies are going to obey it, we’re somewhere between a few weeks and a few years from the emergence of a massive army of the young terminally ill and, with some encouragement, righteously vengeful. But a lot of people say they’d do wild things if necessity put its hand on their shoulder, and nobody ever does the things. How many of the tens of thousands of American prosecutors who’ve railroaded innocents have been set right? How many C-suiters who’ve poisoned babies for a fleeting two-cent stock bump have been put down?… Read more »
This is a really good take that gets at a couple things I’ve been thinking about lately.
First, how much of the Covid hysteria is the product of souless, godless, msterialist old fogies who can’t accept their mortality, like the bunch running the US government?
Second, and more disturbingly, look at how much of the Covid garbage is essentially the old waging war on the youth in every possible facet of life.
I agree. The right movements only seem to come through established institutions in society, mainly military. Look at Chile, Spain and the obvious in recent history. As these institutions are all now fucked, there is little avenue open for this retributional function. On the Coof, I honestly do not think people will be able to internalize that tens of millions of people have been injected knowingly with an untested technology which is looking likely to be the largest intentional death programme ever perpetrated on mankind. The psychic problems in this for a society are just too extreme for this to… Read more »
The militia right calls this an accountability list. Also learn some trade craft. This is an open forum so we we don’t need much but if you are doing covert but of course legal things you can learn to do them undetected. Do that. And for Pete’s sake, get cracking on an ideology and some goals. The ideological vacuum on the right and the steadfast refusal to consider it cripples them. Not so much in Europe, any functional ideology there will be far to the Left of ours but here in the US where we have a huge White Right… Read more »
how about the cop who tackled the dad who’s daughter was raped by the tranny in Loudoun?
Yes indeed, think outside the box. As a side note, many hunters spend their weekends prior to the official start of hunting season by canvassing an area and observing patterns of behavior in the local deer, elk, or other game that is of interest. All living things are creatures of habit, and those habits can oft times be discerned by careful observation and research. This is a useful skill to acquire, especially if the food supply chain breaks down in the future.
It may make them think, but the only question that matters is: will they change how they act? Tucker didn’t, and many who have been doxxed haven’t altered their beliefs. Is there something about leftists that makes you think they are more susceptible to oppositional pressure? If not, then you are simply proposing a self-righteous morality play.
Knowing where the bastards live is just the first step. Use your imagination.
OT: anybody notice that the NFL commercials have significantly toned down the race mixing and wokeness since last year? Or is it just the regional stream that I happened to be watching? Was watching an American stream last night, and the ads were full of Africans and Asians, but I did see some white couples. And notably absent were race mixing couples. Even the ads with non whites seemed to be more focused on the product than rubbing their non-whiteness in your face. Too bad, maybe they figured out that the ads were actually redpilling normal white people. Anyways, it’s… Read more »
I don’t watch sportsball, or TV for that matter, but I happen to see commercials passing through the break room at work or online and I have seen no signs that the negrophilia and race mixing is being toned down.
I saw a commercial on youtube last night with a white mother and her white, ginger daughter. Crackers, or something like that. It was startling and made me wonder the same.
The Citicard landing page actually shows a couple of normal, smiling white kids in a swimming pool. How that slipped through the dragnet, I do not know.
They overstep, and then tone it down, making corrections on the fly. It’s funny, my kids give me sidelong glances when any egregious piece of globohomo propaganda comes on to see if i will get angry. But i’m happy that they recognize it for what it is. Half the battle is won when the develop the radar.
Once you’re looking for it, it jumps out at you. Once you notice, you can’t un-notice. Though I haven’t regularly watched TV in two decades for other reasons, I can’t watch even when I want to. Even the non-woke stuff is ridiculous in the commercials. All the lawyer commercials and drug commercials… There are two show I like on TV and I have to record them so I can bypass the godawful commercials.
Organizing is a priority if you believe that politics will eventually save the day and you need to get to 50+1% in order to win elections and seize control of DC. Alternately, organizing matters if you’re trying to initiate a rebellion by raising a million man civil army. The former is a pipe dream due to demographics and a managerial class that is immune to politics. The latter is an invitation to be entrapped by the Stasi and herded off to an interment camp before the first shot is fired. The best hope for organizing is via secession in a… Read more »
Last sentence should read “As for me, I do NOT wish to use Barry as a roll model.” Sorry for the typo.
Last sentence should read “As for me, I do not wish to use Barry as a role model.”
The question that dissidents need to answer for themselves is: what do they want the government (polity) to do? Any dissident site will come up with thousands, maybe millions of complaints, but not a single notion of what their ideal government looks like. They just negotiate with the current power structure. My answer is that I government I’m willing to defend and finance is one that supports and celebrates traditional morals and families, and excludes atheists and Muslims, one that commissions beautiful public art and architecture, one that secures the borders and is extremely selective about immigration, that enforces contracts… Read more »
Drew: Why exclude atheists and Muslims yet not Hindoos and Juice? Beautiful public art and architecture is in the eye of the beholder, and plenty of the POX in charge today consider the statues of St. George Floyd and dem slabes that they’ve erected in the place of dead White men to be lovely and honorable.
You make no mention whatsoever about race or White racial consciousness, nor about the legitimacy or structure of any government. Stop thinking within the current structure and beliefs and start from genetics. A lot (not everything, but a great deal) automatically follows from there.
Genetics is certainly at the root. The predictive skill at the civilizational level is astounding. Predictive utility lowers when considering individuals because there is always variation about a mean, but it is the median individual, not the extreme outlier, who determines how well or badly a civilization functions.
biology -> culture (systematized behavior) -> politics
healthy families -> healthy communities -> healthy countries
The internationalists, both marxist and globalist, attack the roots of what they see as obstacles to their new world order: whites/Europeans (biology) and healthy (traditional) families.
Cause I was on lunch break and didn’t have time to write a full treatise. More seriously, excluding atheists will exclude a large number of the small hat brigade. Regarding race, my personal life experience has been that the people I’ve personally known to advocate for white racial solidarity are @$$holes that I would be glad to see the backs of. Their schtick is basically that I should put up with their asinine, self-serving behavior because their skin tone is closer to mine than that of the descendants of slaves. I disagree, obviously, and generally that if the only point… Read more »
That’s been my experience as well. The autistic retards who zero in on skin color, race, and genetics to the exclusion of all else also tend to be irredeemable @$$holes who’d shove their mothers in front of a bus if it profited them. As a Greek, I’d be more comfortable with an Abyssinian as a neighbor than these caustic retards who feel that their skin color gives them license to be trolls to their fellows. I hold the vibrants in contempt for doing this, and I hold Whites who do this equally in contempt.
@Drew and Stephanos
Good tag-team effort there, fellas.
Those who have neither tribe nor nation are prey animals in a herd of one, easy meat for the cooperating foreign predators.
I want a culture as only found in pre-invasion white Europe and America in history, but I do not see that whites are required to make this happen. Doh.
What a truly wishful thinking stupidity.
This is no different than the civnats, which all evidence from the last 50 years has shown their outlook to be about as realistic as flat earthers, and the current POZ who think they are going to live in a western utopia Star trek, when all evidence is pointing to Haiti.
Magic dirt for the win.
@Horace
If your own tribe is preying on you, then what does it matter what foreigners will do? If white nationalists would buy suits instead of Nazi tats and confederate flags, I’d be way more interested. Many of them, though, insist on beclowning themselves while living in trailers and buying groceries with food stamps, and that’s just not the foundation of stable productive society.
Robustness for the win. Missions and vetting members is like herding cats. It takes time and resources far out of proportion to the likely results. And it frequently attracts the psychopathic grifters. Take the Knights of Columbus as an example. It started as a mutual benefit society organized to counteract Catholic workers becoming Masons. Now it’s a corporate life insurance shell that grifts the rank and file to package funding for globalist bishops who’ve drunk the BBB koolaid of the Great Reset. Better to form ad hoc cells of team members with proven strengths and known proclivities for impromptu actions… Read more »
Agreed. The goal is to win, not become the most popular face-man in your high school clique. What they fear most is the bolt from the blue, and that is the antidote that must be nurtured and developed. There are millions of skilled and experienced hunters in the US; that is your resource block. Start with this mindset and then educate “thinking outside the box.” And being spontaneous, while appearing innocuous, is force multiplier. A hundred maintenance/repair men can accomplish far more than ten divisions or a phalanx of Stasi in a nextgen scenario.
As a Knight, can confirm. The most hilarious part of their sales spiel is how they only invest in federal bonds. For their unbreakable credit-worthiness. I kid you not.
You got to be joking. For succession to be workable you need a populace behind it and organized. And willing to fight to the death. Too many DR types suffer from magical thinking assuming it will happen all by itself. And do you really think DC would tolerate it? Hell No!! They would rain down hell on any state or region that tried it. Preppers will play no role in what is to come since they are hyper individualists and thus worthless in resistance. Prepping only works in a community setting where you are part of a like minded group… Read more »
“It would also make for a good video series, since young people prefer pictures to words.”
I find that very few normie men of any age read. This is the age of video. Men will watch a 2 hour video on YouTube but won’t read more than about 200 words. I don’t care how intelligent, most men now have a very short attention span with reading.
The few men I know who read longer pieces or books usually want some type of How To out of it that they can readily implement such as how to make more money investing
This site gets about 300,000 unique visitors. No one in this space gets that audience for video or audio. Younger people prefer video, but older people read much more than they listen or watch.
I prefer reading because it can look like I’m working
I prefer reading but know few men who do. These are all uni educated, accomplished men and they just aren’t readers. Yeah there are some readers but my guess is that we represent a small percentage of overall men on our side of the divide
Just said
Few men do
I dont know how you overcome that this day and age
A little Marcus Aurelius would go a long way..
The men who read your site are likely already converts to our side of the divide and at least amenable to the Dr. To get to our viewpoint it has helped to read very non mainstream material.
From what I can see in normy land it is a different story when it comes to politics and culture in general. An example of what normy men will read are books on self improvement and how to deal with women like Rich Cooper’s Unplugged alpha. They can immediately apply it to their life for self improvement and reduced risk.
I have almost finished my second reading of War and Peace just this year (started the first reading in January) I read Odyssey 3 times this year!, I read 3 Euripides plays, 3 Aristophanes plays, and three Aeschyluss plays all this year. I’m on book 6 of the Republic (skipped book 5). I’ve read Meno, Phaedo, Euthrapo, Crito, and the Apology, all at least twice. And this is just this year! But I’m a bachelor and have no life. Im also studying Greek and Latin. I have always wanted to do a survey of the Western books, so I’m a… Read more »
I started War and Peace several times before I stopped referring to the family trees that were at the start of the book. I thought I had to keep everyone straight as I went along. When I finally just read it without stopping every five minutes, it turned into a page turner for me. It’s one of my favorite books. People who I tell that to wrinkle their nose until they dive in themselves. It’s interesting to see the transformation. I have taken to making a copy of the first page of chapter 16 in the edition I read. In… Read more »
There is already a good book on political organizing
by a English communist turned Catholic
https://www.amazon.com/Dedication-Leadership-Douglas-Hyde/dp/0268000735/ref=nodl_
We need small achievable goals. Nationalist movements want to do nationalism things and that is just impossible at this point, at least in the political sense.
As Z is always pointing out, the left has lots of on-ramps. Whether it’s saving the whales or the rain forest or climate change or tranny so-called rights, there are a million left wing causes that aren’t even inherently left wing, like the whales bit.
There are just way too many people who love nothing more than putting on their horns and pitchforked tails to strut around for lefty. Gab…..
I prefer feldgrau and goosestepping, thank you very much!
The Left knows how to leverage these other causes. The average righty can only mutter “abortion bad”, “muh guns”, “muh Constitution” which they wave around like a totem. One note clowns. These stupid f**ks rolled over when Clinton signed NAFTA and even cheered saying the working class deserved to be destroyed because they wanted a decent wage. When the globos came for high tech jobs again the Right rolled over or supported it When the Left poisoned middle America with Oxycontin the Right did nothing, Almost 1 100,000 year die and nothing but silence., This is why the Left won.… Read more »
Nafta was a Republican Bill. Bush the wrinkled would certainly have signed it, he’d pushed it through congress (not that it needed much pushing).
Z, you’re just making me want to start tithing a hip new secret society here. I can only get so excited here.
When I try to login to post comments I get “Disqus
Invalid Request: Invalid parameter: redirect_uri (should match predefined callback URI)”
Is this just me or does this feature not work?
I think Disqus may have blocked me.
One of the most clear-cut examples of not vetting someone properly was Paul Nehlen. Not sure if he was an asset or just a kook, but he not only completely delegitimized a lot of the right, but doxxed Ricky Vaughn, a solid guy, and drove him from the scene. Saying based stuff to funny online, but if that’s all you and can’t rope in your rhetoric you might as well put on some clown makeup for your act.
Organizations require patrons. Every successful group has to have at least a few, to make it socially acceptable, to fund it, to attract the right kind of people. Patrons control the patronage, which is the second ingredient necessary to making a movement or an organization something more than a peasant revolt. The Sons of Liberty had John Hancock, one of the wealthiest men in Massachusetts. The Bolsheviks (and later Communists) had many patrons in elite positions in the West. Mustache Guy received crucial support from patrons within the German economy, military, and bureaucracy from the inception. Until the DR can… Read more »
Have you gotten your Thiel bucks yet?
Alas, Thiel bucks are chasing the Hazony crowd. Womp-womp.
A friend just sent me some substack “the thielist dispatch” that is a kind of moldbug for faggy technocrat civnattery. “Rise above the culture war”, “build space colonies”, and “rethink transportation”. his is the kind of onramp that gets guys tilting toward our side of the great divide heading back toward the plantation for a cool sounding take the high-road fight to build that better version of the same system with more better republicans this time. A tea party for crypto queers and tesla drivers who don’t want to step over piles of human shit to charge their macntoshhondas. Or… Read more »
You start small at the local level. That’s how we begin.Screw the rich patrons because they are like the great pumpkin – they will never appear for our side. Local matters a lot and can accomplish a lot as well.
That means we need people persons who can leverage existing economic and social problems as a means of recruiting pissed off whites to our side. That’s how the Left co-opted everything from environmentalism, labor, you name it.
All the stupid whites on the right cared about was God, Guns and Abortion. And it cost them their country
“All the stupid whites on the right cared about was God, Guns and Abortion. And it cost them their country.” The first thing that tapped me on the shoulder to whisper something was deeply wrong in “official” conservatism was the movement’s limited interests. Besides the usual braying about taxes, free enterprise, and bombing other countries into democracy there were but a handful of others. Caring about God is not stupid, quite the reverse, but using one’s idea of God as a political tool is oppressive and counterproductive. Guns, yes, Second Amendment rights are vital. But for many they are a… Read more »
I want an abortion clinic right between the Popeye’s Chicken and the liquor store on every Martin Luther King Boulevard in AINO.
Good talk Russ! The MC club model is pretty spot-on.
A good organizing manual is “Listen to Your Mother: Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win” from 2007. It’s by Robert Creamer, longtime Democratic Party organizer and husband of leftist Rep. Jan Schakowsky. You can get it for a couple of bucks on Amazon. He’s a leftist, but describes the nuts and bolts of activism and organizing.
Well Z, I agree. That last show wasn’t nearly as good as this one. And this is a key element of attraction to the dissidents – at least for me. Everything here is fun – but it’s sensible and businesslike. The Friday podcast is a prepared presentation, and not some goofs popping off at random. I have reason for being here, there is always a message, and if I disagree with anything I can pop off in the comments without being censored or ask questions… and the guys will help out. I have actually changed my mind and opinions from… Read more »
You talked about secrecy and discretion.
It reminds me of the mystic and spiritual orders that have been so crucial in our part of the world in resisting the tide of satanic modernity, and keeping the faith alive with all its majesty and protocols, and under whose protection various ethnicities have kept their separate ethno-cultural identities alive to this day.
Now, since, in the Occident, religion (Christianity) is more or less extinguished from the social space and what remains is a twisted caricature of its former self, from where will spiritual aid arrive?
There’s going to be a pagan revival of sorts as mainstream Christian institutions become more and more synonymous with the woke regime. People aren’t going to go around worshipping Odin or Zeus, or doing a Wiccan larp though.
It will be at first a strange esoteric movement that will be too strange to scare the powers that be at first, that will eventually take an elitist form emphasizing strength and classical masculinity.
Eventually there will be the woke anti-spiritual hegemon, an elitist trad Christianity, and an elite new pagansim. At that point we’re going to see some truly odd alliances.
Christianity flourished by courting pagans and has withered by reintroducing the judeo- part.
Makes you wonder about the Reformation and the connotative meaning of ‘corruption’.
For the last hundred years, the biggest pagan ritual in European White lands has been the weekly soccer pilgrimage that the ‘ultras’ make towards football stadia because apparently they love (whatever that means) ‘their’ Saudi/Emirati/Chinese/(((Russian))) owned club.
The Cleveland Browns’ 100% white audience was howling like savages last night, worshipping their African idols.
Latin “Paganus” – “rural,” “rustic,” “civilian.” From the root word “pehg” meaning “fixed in place,” boundary markers that were fixed in place. Those outside the markers were rural, rustic. Civilian in contrast to Roman soldiers. Christians were city dwellers. Particularly woman and children. Progressives. As the centuries rolled on, Christian soldiers at war with the rural civilians: pagans. Pope Obama describing pagans: “And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” Who’s the… Read more »
The feeling of disenfranchisement and dispossession will teach people the meaning of being in the world but not of it.
In other words, they’ll rediscover faith when it’s all they have left.
Something your comment and Z’s talk reminded me of was one of the early actions by the Falun Gong in China where one day, completely unannounced, a bunch of people suddenly showed up in the town square and did nothing more than sit down; and the regime *freaked*.
Great follow up, I was wondering how anyone could go through the vetting process hope’n to get a ticket to the pool party without really knowing how the people doing the vetting make money. I’m not sure denying things or discussing Play station pays very much. Follow the money sound like good advice to me.
Our side has nothing about organizing because we are in the grips of Christian (or Catholic) evangelizing. In other words, people on the “Right” do not want to organize but rather they want you to go to Church. So, rather than create organizations that can meet people where they are (as the Leftists do with race, gender, homosexuality, pet rescue, etc) our Right Winger overlords have exactly one solution to every problem: go to Church.
Yes. I spent most of my life as a militant atheist. I grew up in The Hive. I heard all the lies the left tells about, God, Christianity and Christians and I believed them. One day my wife dragged me out to a tiny chapel out in the country, and I actually met real Christians. The folks that walk the walk. I learned why the Left fears and hates them. A short time later I was astonished to find God right under my nose. I grew up, trained by Lefties not to see him. Yes, I want you to go… Read more »
To add a little bit more – yes, even a conservative church probably won’t have racial preaching. That doesn’t mean you won’t find some other guys there who might have other views. It doesn’t mean you can’t meet up with those guys for coffee or hang out after church. Atomization is the worst thing that’s happened to white people and churches fight back against that. Strong church communities are already heavily mitigating the effect of punishments on its unvaxxed members. Then there’s the simple fact that no group of white people have above replacement fertility rates, except the religious. Even… Read more »
The big problem with “Go To Church” is that the available options aren’t too impressive: Catholics: Leadership is part of globohomo and they’d happily wipe out all the whites if it meant they could have twice as many Africans sign up. Plus diddlers. Orthodox: Culturally based in Eastern Europe, too alien to the West. Normal Protestant: Libtards. Evangelical Protestant: There’s probably a special level in Dante’s Inferno for preachers who take donations from impoverished little old ladies so they can buy themselves more male jewelry. Weird Protestant: Cults. Also you eliminate all chances of recruiting rational people once you start… Read more »
Haven’t listened yet, but I hope you have a segment on aesthetics. I’ve been beating this drum no doubt ad nauseam, but people buy people, not ideas. Look like a serious person who has his sh!t together and you’re halfway there. No need for armbands and torchlight parades; in Clown World, wearing anything more than sweat pants and a sportsball jersey is enough. Collared shirts and khakis would work just fine. (If we got a plausibly deniable recognition signal in there too – white wing tips or something – that would be aces).
I’ve often used the example of sales to explain this. The guy who shows up your office in a nice suit, well groomed and articulate is always going to get a better reception than the guy who is disheveled, smells of alcohol and uses profanity. Even if the latter’s product is superior, you will want to buy for the former.
As I said in a previous comment, people buy from others that they like.
Put another way, who are likable.
It may be helpful to some on this blog to pick up a sales training book. It may help with what is desired for the future.
Improving interpersonal relationships is never a waste of time.
This would have been useful information years ago, thanks.
As far as Proud boys they do have an arduous initiation to become a member.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/proud-boys-initiation-ritual-video/
I remember the chat at Takis rode McInnes hard when he wrote about him. All that’s missing are decoder rings.
The psychology behind this is that first impressions really do matter. People form their basic opinion of you in less than 30, maybe even 10 seconds.
Once that opinion is formed, it can take years of effort to alter or reverse it.
And that’s just how humans are wired.
It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances.
But we are not selling. No matter how good we dress, and how good the product, the customer (elite power structures) will never, EVER buy. So we should not sell. Rather, we should destroy. Take Netflix. We should encourage the trannies to go after not just Chappelle but his pals: Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, that Madea guy, Arsenio Hall, and all the rapper buddies of Chappelle. We should encourage the trannies to demand ALL of Netflix content be tranny. Our destruction should not and must not be stupid stuff like Anti-Fa burning things down. Far more effective to leverage the… Read more »
There’s something to that.
Awww man! And I just had my cape freshly dry cleaned and my leathers all oiled up.
I still, have snippets, however vestigial, from the old primer, Dress for Success running around in my brain.
Dressing for Success is a mind f**k. I wore a tie every day for the last twenty years of my working life. Even as “business casual” swept the corporate world, my profession demanded the obligatory suit and tie. In the five years since I’ve retired (early), I’ve worn a suit exactly once, to my mom’s funeral, and a tie perhaps six or seven times. Khakis and a polo may be the “uniform” of the Boomer; but they project enough respectability to have freed me from the despised fashion noose that is the necktie. Ninety percent of dressing for success is… Read more »
“The Left is always looking to convert people to their cause, while the Right always seeks to mobilize the converted to the moment. This is why the Left is implacable, never taking no for an answer. It is also why the Right so readily accepts defeat and then internalizes it. Left-wing politics is about overcoming popular objections while right-wing politics is about counting noses.”
Yes to this, a thousand times. This is in part because the Right works from a consensus model, rather than a visionary one, which may change. The abuses by the current regime may see to that.
“The Left is always looking to convert people to their cause, while the Right always seeks to mobilize the converted to the moment.”
Is because the Left plays offense while the Right plays defense. When the Left attacks it’s a full on left flank, right flank, center assault with their allies in the media, University, BLM, your woke preacher, sports, advertisers, your company – no where to hide. Any opposition is squashed by threats from the FB1, 1RS, C1A, tire slashers, egg throwers, and flaming cocktail throwers. Now David wants to take away our sling shots.
Sorry. Obviously I meant Goliath.
The right operates from the theory that everyone, deep down, has working elements of logic and commonsense, coupled with some level of compassion. These are major encumbrances to the left, who allow nothing to interfere with their pogroms, er, programs.
I always like the way the General put it in Full Metal Jacket: “Deep down inside every [Vietnamese] is an American trying to get out.”
That conflict should’ve put the lie to that statement, but hey, whatever, Grillers are slow learners. No, buddy, Americans are indeed “a social construction,” just like they told you back in college (elementary school, these days). It takes a lot of work to make one… and you have to start with raw materials that can take the stresses of production, which are in short supply.
Apparently all it takes to make an American, or 2 or 3 or 6 million, is a bunch of Jews in government.
Or you could go with the very real, and very insane, words of Nebraska Senator Kenneth Wherry in 1940-
“With God’s help, we will lift Shanghai up and up, ever up, until it is just like Kansas City.”
I’ve always thought Rules would work for the Right. Its tactics not content
It’s a book of etiquette for royal children. Orphans can’t use it.
You can’t use the devil’s tactics of treachery and lies to defeat the devil. For one reason, you’ll end up a devil yourself; for another, the devil is much better at it than you; and most importantly, you ain’t never seen nobody as paranoid about loyalty and trust as the Deceiver.
“We must have UNITY!”