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In America, what is called the political Left operates within a few modes of thought tied to seminal events on the Left. One if the civil right era, another is the Watergate era and the other is interwar Europe. All events are framed by this period. If they do not fit these models then they are usually ignored. Of course, their framing of these periods is cartoonish and absurd. It is all easy to understand heroes and villains, who are stripped of moral ambiguity and nuance.

What passes for the Right has always been an echo of the Left, so they have evolved similar framings. It took a while but the 1980’s is one of their primary frameworks for talking about current events. They are always looking for the next Reagan, Thatcher or Bill Buckley among the current mediocrities. Their answer to almost every issue is a slogan from the high water point of conservatism. Modern conservatism is a cargo cult where current members ape the members of the past.

Like their friends on the Left, the Right also has an obsession for the interwar period in Europe, but with a different emphasis. While the Left checks under their bed every night to make sure Hitler is not waiting for them, the Right is always sure Neville Chamberlain is lurking somewhere, ready to give away the Sudetenland. Like the Left, their understanding of that time is cartoonish and absurd. All the players are exaggerated heroes or villains with crude moral choices.

This can be traced to the Reagan years. His innovation in the Cold War was to call the Russians the “evil empire.” This may be the first example of a politician convincing adults by using a reference to a children’s show. Everyone dealing with an affluent white female liberal (AWFL), who quotes Harry Potter all the time, can thank Ronald Reagan for that bit of cultural innovation. Ever since, the right has sorted the world into extreme villains and themselves as the heroes.

Of course, the most extreme villain is Hitler. Reagan stopped short of calling Gorbachev the new Hitler, but that generation knew their history. Those that followed have thrown around the Hitler language as recklessly as the Left. Saddam Hussein was Hitler and his party was “islamo-fascist.” In fact, every Muslim with a complaint about bombs dropping on his head was called an “islamo-fascist” by conservatives. Even the Taliban got this label from conservatives.

In this framing, every Hitler needs a Chamberlain and Churchill. In conservative framing, Chamberlain is not a man who wished to avoid another horrible European war, but a foolish sissy unwilling to face reality. Churchill is not a reckless warmonger known for his alcoholism and lack of judgment, but a heroic visionary who could spot Old Scratch coming before anyone. Of course, every conservative sees a bit of Churchill in himself, so he is always ready for another war.

We see this with the undeclared war on Russia. Putin is Hitler, despite the Russian role in defeating the real Hitler. The Russians are the Nazis invading Poland, even though the guys on the other side are extreme Hitler enthusiasts. Biden has to be Chamberlain, even though he barely knows where he is most of the time and it is his administration that launched the war against Russia. His failure to take it to the nuclear level is proof that he is too soft on the new Hitler.

You see this deranged mental state in this American Conservative post about a warmonger convention held in DC. Those who point out the massive failure of thirty years of pointless wars of choice is now called a neo-isolationist. Note how not supporting aggressive imperial wars of domination is isolationism. Note also that the people who say this love quoting the Founders, except the part where Washington warned about entangling alliances.

Part of this framing is the lack of scruples by modern conservatives. The warmonger events are sponsored by the war machine and they pay well. Sites like National Review are now wholly dependent on money from Big Tech and the Military Industrial Complex, so they are happy to sell endless war, foreign and domestic. Conservatism is now just the public relations arm of the security state. It is why they never expose themselves to pushback on these issues.

That aside, it still leaves the obsession with Hitler. In the middle of the last century, the men who actually fought real Nazis rarely mentioned Hitler. The occasional joke about the old enemies was as much as they did. Their children and now their grandchildren, who grew up insulated from all of life’s troubles, are obsessed with events that happened almost a century ago in another country. The war on Russia reveals that this derangement is getting worse.

The answer may simply be that the so-called conservatives are just boys and girls playing a role, wearing costumes too large for them. Like children in their parent’s clothes, modern political actors are midgets compared to the men who created the roles they are now asked to play. To make up for the fact that they are fleas on the society they inherited, they exaggerate their role in it. A similar phenomenon drives the Left, which also operates like a cargo cult.

Another factor is cultural inertia. The Global American Empire was born in the Second World War and its evolution was in the context of its shadow. The Cold War was driven by the energy of the war against fascism. The energy from the initial creation of the empire was channeled into the Cold War. The residual energy that now gets channeled into endless wars of choice is just cultural inertia. It is the old rationale for existence looking for a place to go in post-Cold War age.

Regardless, the only way forward for America and the West is to finally close the books on the 20th century. That will require a lot of funerals and retirement parties, but Father Time is undefeated in this regard. Once the people defined by the endless fights over old ideas like nationalism, fascism and communism are gone, then the new fights over civilizationalism can begin. The question is whether the actuarial tables can do their magic before it is too late.


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Conner Roberts
Conner Roberts
2 years ago

It is fascinating to scroll through all of the comments and realize that one important key fact is missing. All of the men about which various posters are complaining are mere mortals. They are flesh and blood, just like anyone else. While they may be in possession of wealth and influence, such trivial things are of no moment to the one who has the will to act. This is not a suggestion of any rash action against the well-being of any other person. This is a challenge to be the one to act and to lead…instead of just posting one’s… Read more »

Tom
Tom
2 years ago

Some really god articles recently. Thanks.

Joe
Joe
2 years ago

Great article but it was Jefferson, not Washington who used the words “entangling alliances”. Of course this just bolsters your point because Jefferson was consciously referencing Washington’s warning about permanent alliances. So the neocons ignore both Washington. And Jefferson

From the web:
Washington advised against “permanent alliances,” whereas Jefferson, in his inaugural address on 4 March 1801, declared his devotion to “peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” It is a pet phrase of isolationists warning against foreign commitments.

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2 years ago

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mfiroest
mfiroest
2 years ago

don’t know if you guys have noticed , but the war has taken all the attention away from the train wreck of supply chain issues . Work in a factory, and we can’t get anything . my relatives in farm country say between the price of seed, fuel and supplies and the unviability of fertilizer and herbicide, we will all be going on a real diet later this year . also , our electric utility told us we would “probably” not be affected by possible “rolling blackouts ” this summer because we are under industrial customer contact. good luck guys

BeAprepper
BeAprepper
Reply to  mfiroest
2 years ago

Chaos & mayhem, societal & economic collapse are necessary in order achieve the reboot and live a happy subservient life under our global Marxist overlords.

Kertch
Kertch
Reply to  BeAprepper
2 years ago

Yes, but things don’t always go as planned. Especially when you are an elite, living in a self-created bubble. Just ask Louis XVI or Czar Nicholas. Still waiting for the promised “Global Communism” and the “Thousand Year Reich”. The “Great Reset” might end up with a very different meaning than the global elite intend it to.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 years ago

“Note how not supporting aggressive imperial wars of domination is isolationism. Note also that the people who say this love quoting the Founders, except the part where Washington warned about entangling alliances.” Note also you never see polling that risks an accurate result about things such as sending 54 billion, pre-skimmed domestically, to Ukraine (to also skim, in part), to murder White people on both sides. Graft and genocide may satisfy the salons of D.C. but they likely don’t poll very well. As you pointed out yesterday, the big question is why the MIC and other monstrosities even bother funding… Read more »

Kertch
Kertch
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Probably to keep the people thinking that they still have some means to politically address the issue. It’s like Coke and Pepsi claiming to be alternatives to each other, when in reality they are both just selling you bubble, brown, sugar-water. To the limited intellect, a false choice is often acceptable, whereas no choice would be too hard an impact of reality.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

The UniParty arrangement you cite has been most accurately called, “The Warfare/Welfare State”, by Ron Paul and other libertarians. It rightly calls it so, because it calls out the grift that underlies both projects. It also, for those with the context, is meant to call out the entity that is responsible for enabling both grifts – The Federal Reserve. The pre-2008 will never be anti-war because their welfare toy, (empty moral posturing via legalized theft and/or direct grifting where the wealth redistribution handouts are almost all interecepted before it hits the homes and mouths of the poor), depends on it,… Read more »

Hokkoda
Member
2 years ago

Throughout the 2015 GOP Primary I often joked that people like Rubio sounded like they had read the book “How to Sound Like Ronald Reagan and be Liked.” The problem has been around a long time. In 2016, Trump captured the cultural zeitgeist by hammering on immigration and pointless wars. Assuming we ever have a real election again, the 2024 winner will be the person who captures the anger of the public over what is being done to them and whose campaign targets GOP reps and Senators in the Official Government Party. In 2015, I felt that the person who… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Hokkoda
2 years ago

Alas, I fear the person who would venture into that territory would be Epsteined or Arkansided.

It’s a nice thought though.

Frankly I’m surprised that, even with all of his faults, Orange Man is still above ground.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

Add Durham and Musk to that surprise list.

There are a couple other names that should be there, but they slip my increasingly fuzzy mind right now.

anarchyst
anarchyst
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

Trump is still “above ground” as he was able to intersperse his private security detail within his Secret Service protection detail. The government types protested against that, but was overruled by Trump himself.
Trump has more “on the ball” than many people realize.

outsider
outsider
Reply to  anarchyst
2 years ago

Don’t forget that, during Trump’s first campaign, he advocated friendship with Russia. But the Russiagate pressure got to him, and he cucked. It was Trump, not Obama, who started giving heavy weapons to Ukraine, setting in motion the trainwreck we are facing today. I do not agree that Trump was “on the ball.” Trump learned nothing while in office.

Kertch
Kertch
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

In this environment, the iconoclast, or at least their anti-establishment actions, must appear out of nowhere as with Trump and Elon. Otherwise the regime will snuff them out before they get a chance to act. The Regime has already started the “dirty tricks” campaign against Desantis, since they have identified him as an emerging threat. However, this has always seemed to be the case. Heroes of the Civil War – Lincoln and Grant, where almost unknown 5 years before the war. New circumstances bring about new leaders.

hamato yoshi
hamato yoshi
2 years ago

let’s talk about Payton Gendrons
I don’t know he was part of planning a false flag to undermine/suppress white
but shooting random black instead legitimate target such as Larry Fink
The incident will turn out backfired on white people who supposed to be he care

he is no good to anyone but small hats, hell they already started another propaganda that white replacement is false

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  hamato yoshi
2 years ago

this is obviously not going to happen as he probably lives in a gated community and he either rides in a limo or has his car in a garage – but I can imagine someone going to fink’s neighborhood and hitting his car with a sledgehammer saying:
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS LARRY

Pozymandias
2 years ago

Speaking of war. Our ruling elite may be corrupt, senile, and full of shrieking she-men and soyboys, but they have realized something that the White majority hasn’t (yet?). They realize they are at war with us. They also realize that since 2016 they have had “the initiative”. Initiative in military terms means that while you may not be the stronger side, you mostly get to decide where and when to fight the battles. Initiative, in fact, can outweigh huge disadvantages in numbers and firepower. The way I now view our politics since 2016 is as a series of battles provoked… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
2 years ago

Reagan was wrong to call Soviet communism evil? Lots of the Cold War was for sure bogus for benefit of the military-industrial complex, but I wouldn’t dare disagree with Solzhenitsyn appraisal of his country after the revolution. And it was the Soviets and the Left that were calling Reagan a fascist or Hitler or racist or anti-gay, etc. The truth of the matter is this: the pro-Reagan people of the time (ie: normal white people) WANT their leader and country to be racist, anti-gay and all the rest. All those evil code words mean this: being in the interest of… Read more »

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  fakeemail
2 years ago

why would they want to have assassinated reagan?

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

To get their man into the Oval Office? They had managed to manipulate Reagan into picking GHWB after having floated the preposterous Reagan / Ford Co-Presidency idea at the GOP convention in Detroit. They would not have floated a Reagan / Buchannan Co-Presidency nor a Reagan / Paul Co-Presidency or a Reagan / Schlafly Co-Presidency. They knew that they could count on GHWB to do their bidding. They knew that GHWB had proven his usefulness to them. They knew that their consiglieres had counseled a rub out of Reagan. They knew that senior members of the Anglo-Zionosphere were on board.… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Liberty Mike
2 years ago

GHWB was certainly aware of the uses that had been made of Prescott Bush: What he had done, how richly he had been rewarded and how securely the families fortunes had been established.
He was certainly fully aware of how the game was played.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

Drama constant agitation, Mindfuck, kind of like now, without the kosher technology.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

Agree. Sheesh, just look at who staffed his administration. His VP a former CIA Director. Wineberger: lifetime military/Federal/Defense Contractor/Harvard Graduate. I’m too lazy to look up the rest.

Regan was an interesting President. He had persona. He got tax reform passed. But he was bought and paid for the day he took office, if not before, just one more Deep State puppet in a very long line.

Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

||| “Once the people defined by the endless fights over old ideas like nationalism, fascism and communism are gone, then the new fights over civilizationalism can begin. The question is whether the actuarial tables can do their magic before it is too late.” ||| Speaking of tables and statistics, the rate of illegitimacy within the White race stands at over 40% now. Iceland sits at the summit with the rate of 70% followed by France which recorded 62% births out of wedlock in 2020. This sketches a devastating picture for the future. Where will these children end up? Won’t they… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

The statistics you cite do not tell the whole story, or at least do not address the issue you imply—fatherlessness. A birth out of wedlock is not Ipso facto a fatherless child. To evaluate that, we’d need follow up surveys on how many of the out of wedlock births entail no future relationship to the biological father for the child. For example, we’d want to know what percentage of the out-of-wedlock mothers who later on marry the biological father, or another male, or how many of the “fatherless” children have no strong male influence available—such as a grandfather or uncle.… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Too, as someone shared here just yesterday about his tactical divorce, there are often penalties to getting (or staying) wed, and conversely, benefits to being unmarried. Obviously, the pros and cons will vary by nation and differing laws. Now, I’m not claiming that marriage is always good or bad. Nor am I exploring its religious meaning. Strictly in practical terms, however, I think far too many “moral” people think that just because a man and woman get married, that it somehow creates a magical bond and solves (or prevents) all manner of real world issues. I submit that marriage is,… Read more »

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

Just to be oppositional defiant, I saw fit to up vote.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

There is no need to down vote a well reasoned comment as yours are almost always to my recollection. What we (I) see in modern “couples” is a growing tendency to cohabitate without the legal binding of marriage. And of course, the “one night stand” has replaced the “good night kiss” in all too many dates. This of course—even in the midst of abortion on demand—adds to the statistic of out of wedlock births as often marriage is not considered a necessity to “bind/secure” the relationship. I’m not particularly convinced of the wisdom of this, but it is what it… Read more »

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
2 years ago

Chamberlain’s strategy of delaying war as much as possible makes perfect sense in the context of nuclear weapons development, but the masses didn’t know this at the time. What is most interesting is that Chamberlain’s strategy was vindicated as at minimum respectable, if not ideal, within a decade but his reputation as a coward as remained frozen ever since.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Anonymous Fake
2 years ago

It’s a complex story. First, it wasn’t just Chamberlain who wanted “peace in our time” — it was a sizable chunk of the British ruling elite. If you watch Ishiguro’s fictional “Remains of the Day” you’ll get a realistic picture. Too many Brits and too many French had vivid memories of the horrors of WW1. People like Daladier had actually fought in the trenches. The fat, stupid, and bellicose Churchill, who never fought a day in his life, was the precursor to today’s chickenhawks. Hitler himself had no particular designs on the British empire. He just wanted lebensraum for the… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

Churchill never fought a day in his life? You might want to do a little reading on that.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

I looked it up. He did no real fighting.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

He did do battle with Lady Astor.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

you are a very small person. you were ignorant before, and now you are also dishonest. your comments are safely ignored.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

“The problem for Britain was the treaty it had with Poland”

The treaty was not a problem. The treaty had a purpose. It was achieved.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

The toothbrush mustache man had a plan to recreate the Roman Empire on an industrial scale with industrial slave labor. He made no bones about not just Lebesraum to the east but the need/requirement to do the same to the Celtic and Gallic and Latin peoples. Anyone who has read his book can see his explicit calls for such. And the man was a committed ideologue. War with him was inevitable, merely the time and place for the choosing. In that Buchanon was and is flat dead wrong. Indeed every sensible adult who considered the case after the war: Ike,… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
2 years ago

So, “neo-isolationist” is supposed to be an insult? ‘Pon me word! That’s a label I’d own in a New York minute.

If I live long enough to see the birth of Whiteland, I sincerely hope that it will be as isolationist as possible. The more concourse a nation has with other nations and peoples, the more likely it is to become contaminated and embroiled with them. This, in turn, tends toward demographic pollution domestically, and war abroad. To the extent that a nation is autarkic, it is a happy nation.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

And most European nationalists — Golden Dawn, BNP, French National Front, Jobbik — would agree with you. That’s why they’ve all been against the wars and invasions in the Middle East. They see it as a win for the transnational elites while they, the common people, have to pay the price in refugees settling in their countries.

1660please
1660please
2 years ago

I fully agree that we need to “close the books” on the 20th Century, and look at WWII in a much broader perspective than is usually done now. Strangely enough, even though the war was fresh and painful in so many memories, that once seemed to be much more commonly done and encouraged up until the 1970’s, with a variety of opinions allowed in the mainstream such as those of AJP Taylor, and with popular TV media such as the excellent “The World at War.” Soon after that, WWII became all-Holocaust-all-the-time. I believe that, roughly 20 years ago or so,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

As often, a great essay with diverse topics. I’ll only add some troubling questions, none of them necessarily easily answered: Why did the USA enter WW II? What critical national interests did we have, to take one side or the other? Were the Nazis really that bad? Yes, sure they were. Yet Stalin’s Soviet Union, even prior to the war, already had established a track record, even if they took great pains to hide it from the West, of levels of barbarity against their own subjects at least equaling, and perhaps exceeding, anything the Nazis did later. Exercise for contemplation:… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

General Patton, at the end of the war: “We fought the wrong enemy.”

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

W. B., there is a fair bit of speculation that his death was no accident, and that he was silenced by those who made the deal with Stalin. He was ready and willing to drive his tanks to Moscow.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Auld Mark
2 years ago

“Target Patton” by Robert Wilcox is a great place to get acquainted with the evidence and theories regarding how and why he died. Does not seem to have been a garden-variety car wreck.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

There was a severe economic downturn in 1938. The New Deal was failing. FDR was at that point a popular dictator who needed to deflect to international issues. He chose the Soviet side because it was a way easier sell to the American people, as we would be in alignment with Britain. Also, his cabinet had several full blown communists, whitewashed by history. The real reason for they hysteria against McCarthyism later on. McCarthy actually did find important communists in D.C. and beyond and it would have harmed the newly deified reputation of FDR. I see nothing that says FDR… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

All true, but also something brought to my attention recently was the puritanical desire for war. A good illustration of this was the Song of Freedom in the movie Holiday Inn (it’s on Youtube for those interested), and in cruising old ad/propaganda archives on the web the same FDR “New World Order brought to you by the Puritans in the U.S.” spiel turns up time and again.

Curious Monkey
Curious Monkey
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

This is one of those interesting ideas that get glossed over but should be explored more. XX century was hijacked by the progressive-Puritan religion and we still have to pay for it. The justification for the Ukraine war is rooted in a crusade mindset. This religion was more akin to the communist secular religion and so they played along as convenient opposites. We have to replace them with a new thing that we have to acknowledge as a religion from the beginning as we cannot extract religion from the human mind. But this has to be a religion closer to… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Curious Monkey
2 years ago

I would suggest that the “hijacking” by the Puritan/Progressive axis actually began with the agit prop preceeding, and then culminating in the War of Northern Aggression. The Republic, in any meaningful form, died at that time to be replaced with a “nation” held together with martial law, and no political voice for the former States of the CSA.

Crusading Puritanism continued at full throttle with the coup against Hawaii, and even more definitively with the Spanish-American War, and the subsequent suppression of the Filipino freedom fighters. The voyage of the Great White Fleet was not lost on the world, either.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

This is not true. In 1940, the Daughters of the American Revolution funded and distributed Woody Guthrie’s record imploring “American boys” to disown “Roosevelt’s War” for small hats against toothbrush mustache man. By August 1939 the two mustache men signed the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact. In the US the Communist Party was solidly against any act against either mustache man until June 1941. When for some reason they changed their minds. What prompted the signing of the pact was Stalin’s conclusion that after the Munich Conference the West would not fight, and that he had to make peace with the other… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

“Why did the USA enter WW II? What critical national interests did we have, to take one side or the other?” Presumably you’re talking about the European war rather than the Pacific war. The answer is actually rather simple: There were no critical national American interests in Europe. We entered for ideological and imperial reasons. FDR had been a member of the Wilson administration; he was a Wilsonian liberal internationalist and an American imperialist who wanted to finish Wilson’s mission to “make the world safe for democracy.” After World War I, the Republicans sought to repudiate Wilsonianism by refusing to… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

But he wasn’t sold on war until we began economically floundering in the depression within the depression. His speech on the Grand Coulee Dam opening was practically mocking Europe for creating a war machine while were busy stringing power lines everywhere. The problem with FDR was that unless you worked for Bechtel or other massive conglomerates you were screwed. Much like today. The small business owner was being strangled by DC idiots. WW2 was a nice distraction where he was able to gamble the country’s future and win.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

The toothbrush mustache man had many plans for the “America Bomber” and of course the V2 rocket would eventually be turned into the ICBM. By the same guy who used to work for the toothbrush mustache man and got us the lead in both ICBMs and the space race. It had been the policy of the US since the McKinley Administration to prevent any one nation from dominating Europe. The Atlantic at that point being a highway not a barrier. Indeed the Kaiser had three different plans to invade the US in/around New York City, before WWI. These plans were… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

America was defacto at war with Germany before Pearl Harbor. FDR had the US Navy attacking German UBoats in the Atlantic in late summer. The German declaration, invaluable to FDR as a domestic propaganda tool was merely a recognition of a reality concealed from US citizens.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
2 years ago

This latest provocation over the weekend of Sweden, and particularly Finland, chomping at the bit to enter NATO just makes me think these people truly are disconnected from a reality that could bear any consequences. I cannot figure out if its the ‘play acting’ Z points out here or the fact that the US & NATO have been throwing their weight around with no consequences for decades. But whatever it is, its clear they are doing everything in their power to push Russia’s back against the wall. Once you position them in a place of ‘you against the world’ what… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 years ago

ll the women politicians have grown up in a world where the prohibition on violence against them is so strong that you can goad whoever you want and scream in their face for your whole life and never get smacked in the face.

Any pushback and you get run to the authorities to apply force on your behalf as the victim.

Its not any different on the world stage. Biology is biology.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

I quite enjoy how the opening of the film Way of the Gun (2000) addressed woman taking advantage of their protected status:

https://youtu.be/9w6UUkkOmgo

Clearly, this was Sarah Silverman’s best role.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 years ago

Sweden is getting taken over by Muslims, the very fabric of its society rent asunder by the invasion of these savages – and it’s worried about white guys in Russia. Try to figger that one out.

Although having said that, I must admit I was quite upset with Vlad for sending Muslim Chechens shouting “Allahu Akbar” into Ukraine, if that news report is to be believed.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 years ago

“Are they so use to steamrolling over everyone they are simply that myopic and arrogant to think no one will strike back?”

Quite a Catch-22: on the the one hand, I’d LOVE to see someone strike our arrogant and evil regime a death blow. On the other, I’d prefer not to be nuked.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 years ago

” these people truly are disconnected from a reality that could bear any consequence”

Spot on. We have seen it in more minor forms, albeit some dangerous like BLM and Antifa. These are infants who believe everything is emotive and nothing can harm them or deprive them of Netflix and primo coffee. It almost–almost–would be worth it to watch these types deal with disease and famine, but that’s just as bad as they are in the sense of detachment from reality.

Allen
2 years ago

I didn’t get far into that article when I reached the, ahem, money quote. “We are currently only spending 4% of GDP on defense…” There you go, it’s all about the dollars. They might have a better chance of selling that snake oil if that wasn’t their starting place. Then we had all the business of numbers of ships in the navy and such. My question is, to do what with? Which of course is never really answered. More of a “build them and it will be great” sort of thing. That’s where all of this falls apart. No one… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
2 years ago

Fiddlesticks. Sometimes the labels fit. Saddam was called an Islamo-fascist because he was gearing up to make war on the entire middle east and was just fine with genocide and ethnic cleansing. He attacked his neighbours (and our allies) – and that might have had something to do with all the bombs that fell on his head. Those mutts are not nice guys that would be our friends if only we were nice to them. War is as much a part of their nature as theft and vandalism is for blacks. And let us have some clarity about the Endless… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

The Germans at that time were not relentless propagandized to their own destruction for 50 years by electronic media.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Hogwash. In the day of the Weimar Republic, the Germans were entirely responsible for WW1, and thanks to their vanity and arrogance they had to be made to pay! So…20 years?

Add that to the 75 years since WW2…they’ve been gaslit for a long, long time. For all that Germany is only a few steps ahead of us in the race to cut their own throats…

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

I think you misunderstood me.

I was simply pointing out that the German people had not had 50 years of anti-german TV in the 1930s, as it did not exist. So they actually decided to make a change in response to the situation.

Unlike the post war west, which is unlikely to repeat the same pattern as the self-hatred and nihilism prevents any similar thing happening no matter that the situation is very similar.

Pratt
Pratt
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

Is it still scapegoating if the goat has indeed misbehaved?

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Pratt
2 years ago

That is the 64 trillion dollar question, isn’t it…

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

[Saddam] attacked his neighbours (and our allies)

Do tell. Do you speak of the “ally” that tried to sink one of our naval vessels, or the ally whose nationals manned the 9/11 planes?

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

… or the ‘ally’ that was carrying out extensive and tediously thorough surveillance on all of the 9/11 hijackers and neglected to pass that information along to American intelligence? Although to be fair, perhaps they did and it got stovepiped and vanished by our own. I’d like to think that was a crazy notion, but it is crystal clear that the evil rats running our empire would in a New York second ignore a warning that resulted in thousands of dead as long as it also resulted in a profitable permanent war.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Horace
2 years ago

I am speaking of Kuwait, but if you are referring to Saudi Arabia… again, let us have clarity. If you want to say that Al Quieda speaks for the Saudis… that would be like me saying that BLM and Antifa speaks for the dissidents.

The Saudis are not your friends… but, as moslems go… they aren’t your enemy either.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

very late response …. sorry, i should simply be more explicit.

I was referring to Israelis. It was Israeli intelligence who had a MASSIVE operation spanning continents surveilling the eventual hijackers. One has to give credit to Israeli intelligence: the hijackers were going to hit someone, and the Israelis made sure that it was not going to be them.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

During the Iran-Iraq war the US directly armed Iraq and indirectly armed Iran (which was under embargo) via Israel in the entirely illegal enterprise known as “Iran-Contra” where the US sold arms to Iran via Israel and used the proceeds to arm insurgencies in Central America. Hasn’t that worked out well? /S

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  RoBG
2 years ago

I have a sneaking suspicion that all that heavy metal going to the’Kraine is going to come back and bite us the same way…

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

You have been listening to Mark Levin too much in calling Saddam an “Islamofascist”. Next you will say we can’t just cut and run and we have to fight them over there instead of over here.

SH invaded Iran and we applauded. We gave him arms and intel and the ability to make chemical weapons. He invaded Kuwait over a territorial dispute involving oil. Our ambassador , April Glasbie , explicitly told him that the US had interest in his squabble with Kuwait. I feel like I am reading a comment from NRO

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

“Regardless, the only way forward for America and the West is to finally close the books on the 20th century.” – It’s usually wars that do that. Look at how the books were closed on the 19th Century. It’s couldn’t get more ugly. Feckless European blue-bloods from another time altogether. Deep down, perhaps they wrecked the place because they knew their time was up soon anyway. Fast forward to today. The United States and its leadership may as well be wearing powdered wigs in a vastly different and new era. The new era will be born, whether it’s good or… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

I’ve been living in rural Argentina for 18 years now and believe me, you coud do far, far worse and in many ways those in the USA already do drawn from what info and anecdotes I glean from there from far, far away.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Montefrío
2 years ago

Dissidents would be mad if they wouldnt trade the US for the demographics of Argentina, whatever its problems.

trackback
2 years ago

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Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

“Once the people defined by the endless fights over old ideas like nationalism, fascism and communism are gone, then the new fights over civilizationalism can begin.” One difference between the dying generation and the current ones is that the oldies had a past to compare the current one with. The youngest generation, which is just coming of age, has been in flux for their entire lives. There is nothing with which to compare the delusional world that gets offended due to improper pronouns. Orwell talked about words and their deliberate destruction or redefinition. He didn’t say as much concerning the… Read more »

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

I was someone who was pretty liberal growing up and to some extent still is – but I think a lot of lefties felt the same way I did in 2008-2009. You had all these political victories from roughly 1955-1975. Then you had Ronald Reagan come in and wreck it all and you spent 40 days in the desert. Then Obama comes in and takes us out of the desert and was a fulfillment/completion of a prophecy. The tea party movement and the 2010 elections was pretty traumatic for me. It makes me wonder if blm and other great awokening… Read more »

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

I cannot associate with anyone who voted for the Bat-Eared Bolshevik. Even as awful as McCain and Romney were/are. Some sins are unforgivable.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

Wait….Krusty was SERIOUS?? I thought his tongue was so far in cheek it was coming outta his ear.
That or a pathetic attempt at trolling.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

“ Then Obama comes in and takes us out of the desert and was a fulfillment/completion of a prophecy.”

That is funny. I am old enough to remember a nearly same expectation from liberals of Bill Clinton in the first few months after his election.

Interestingly there was never the same savior role projected onto Biden. The start of his presidency had a distinctly darker feel. It had had more of an anticipation for vengeance than salvation.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

The vibe I got from Bidenbots was “We are rid of Trump! Now what?!?”

Disorientation, which fits perfectly.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

They and their children may soon be staving but their Twitter feed has been spared mean Tweets so all is right with the World.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

“Interestingly there was never the same savior role projected onto Biden.” It was not for lack of wanting to. If they could have they would have. But projecting the messianic aura on that senile old coot was a bridge too far.. So the emphasis was merely on getting rid of Trump. And had anyone had the temerity to ask what Biden’s platform was, the acerbic response would have been, “Can’t you see we have to focus on getting rid of Trump? Once we get Biden elected we’ll talk about the issues.” Even the people who voted for that husk of… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

There are quite a few early still shots with Biden’s head framed with a halo created by framing the shot with circular logos behind him.

They do this all the time now in the US and the EU after they started with Obama.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

So the prophecy was that someday a black man would come and make the health care system worse?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ploppy
2 years ago

As bad as we have it in USA, read this report on UK’s National Health Service:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/the-evils-of-socialized-medicine.php

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

So basically, you have learned nothing, and forgotten nothing. Still laboring in the vineyards of Satan, ignoring the consequences, but always on the lookout to work some pointlessly evil vengence, rather like Iago, on those who didn’t willingly accept those accumulating, and accelerating consequences. Dude, this is disappointing. While I am still on the books as a Democrat (camouflage), I have not been a “practicing” Democrat for at least 20 years. I moved on as the evidence of not only their incompetence or wrongheadedness mounted, but also of their active malice toward white gentiles, and the tradition and perpetuation of… Read more »

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Well I kind of think the left needs to seriously reconsider things. Like the party used to be more willing to appeal to regular Americans.

Like the dems really wants to win texas but they seem to forget that people like Lloyd bentsen and Lyndon Johnson were elected as senators there.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

I remember when the left was anti-war and referred to #40 as Ronnie Ray-gun. Fast forward to President Nobel Peace Prize who proceeds to open up more fronts on the “war on terror” and whose administration singlehandedly destabilized Syria and Libya. Libya to the point where slave markets are back!

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

They decided to replace the people instead.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

which was a bad idea. Aside from the obvious assimilation issues and overpopulation, it’s not even helping the left. The country was whiter 30-40 years ago and the dems had a lot more downballot power, paradoxically.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

Obama and woke would never have happened without Dubya. Gore would’ve been a mediocre president, and the Dems would’ve been agitated left in the meantime, but without the Disaster That Was, it would still roughly be the Clinton party.

OTOH the country would still be circling the drain, but I think there’d be less anger about it on both sides.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

The anger is a feature, not a bug. It is necessary for the changes our masters need to perpetuate their power.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

Yes, but it’s also an opportunity. Obviously not referring to you, AWM, but one thing that bugs me about the right is how there are people preaching turn the other cheek or coming together, and people who try to shunt that anger into voting or running harder— none of which will bear good fruit imo. Playing the game only makes you weaker. Whatever happened to getting angry and imposing your will? Not lashing out violently and stupidly, but putting your foot down, and having your way. Everybody knows deep down that should happen, has to happen, even the people who… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

“The tea party movement and the 2010 elections was pretty traumatic for me. It makes me wonder if blm and other great awokening things are simply a lashing out in response to the 2010-2016 elections.”

Oh, you poor baby! I know those 65 year old ladies were scary for you. And we can’t have BLM or Antifa take responsibility for the billions of dollars in damages they did. They “lashed out” in response to the horror. Totally justified!

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

What I’m saying is that 2010 was traumatic for me at the time. I think the disappointment of the Obama years led to things like occupy and later the blm/woke movement. Trump becoming president was sort of an accelerant.

The blm/woke/tranny movements have a juvenile sense of make believe to them. If only we just abolished police, prisons, borders, gender etc everything would be coming up rainbows. I wonder how long it is before they say that gravity is a social construct. It’s at that point where you end up in Xhosa/Jonestown territory.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

Just what did Reagan wreck?

Please be specific, not touchy-feely.

Via Floydarosa
Via Floydarosa
Member
2 years ago

OT, yet a recall of Z-Man’s discussion on the dearth of seriousness…when one watches a Zelensky selfie video, he feels exactly like just another YouTube/Twitch “””influencer”””. He might as well be saying e-celeb shit like: “We be spreading only good vibes here in this community” and”Make sure to smash those like and subscribe buttons” and even “If we reach our goal on $$$-funding/imported arms, I’ll do a vid of a zany prank on those dastardly Ruskies”

But Zelensky’s allegedly the Churchill of our times…

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Via Floydarosa
2 years ago

That $40 billion stretch goal worked out great for him and his cronies.

Its the MIC GoFundMe.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
Reply to  Via Floydarosa
2 years ago

What is the deal with Zelensky always wearing casual clothes?

I keep seeing videos of him were he is meeting foreign dignitaries all dressed up and Zelensky has his street clothes on. It reminds me of when politicians are on the campaign trail and they have to smile and shake hands with some common schlub.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

Wasp-

The olive drab and tan stuff Zelensky wears are supposed to look like military fatigues.

This is to promote the perception that he is taking a break from killing Russians with his bare hands on the front lines.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

To see some of his previous work on Gab, just be grateful that he has clothes on at all.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Via Floydarosa
2 years ago

The, “we want to save our boys,” line about the Azovstal fighters is pure Hollywood.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Actuarial tables may be undefeated, but the generation of leaders not quite ready to surrender to father time’s undefeated military are no better than the octogenarians and in many ways are actually worse.

It could be that Father Time’s army is going to defeat the empire itself in the upcoming battle, rather than just her feckless leaders.

Well, at least the surrender documents will be signed by diverse women of color.

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

“…waiting for the actuarial tables to work their magic.”

Maybe. I’m a 70-something boomer and I’m still fuming over the idiocy of people like Earl Warren, Everett Dirkson, and LBJ. Those bastards are dead, but their policies live on generation after generation.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

Henry Kissinger is still around. He was old when I was a kid. I’m starting to think there is something to this adrenochrome business.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

😀 Yes I can identify with that. Kissinger is 99 years old. My parents (both long dead) married the year Elizabeth’s reign began (1952). She is “only” 96. It’s amazing how long some folks live.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

“I’m still fuming over the idiocy of people like Earl Warren, Everett Dirkson, and LBJ”

“Greatest Generation,” LOL

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

The Greatest Generation has much to answer for. The 1965 immigration act, for starters.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
2 years ago

The “Hart-Celler Act.” Both Hart and Celler were the first generation children of immigrants. As were many who voted for it. It had less to do with any “generation” as it did w/ the reality that immigrants support immigration, preferably with specific cutouts for their co-ethnics.

WhereAreTheVIkings
WhereAreTheVIkings
Reply to  RoBG
2 years ago

It has to do with a successful attempt to dilute the American population, and it happened on the Greatest Generation’s watch.

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

Earl Warren was born in 1891.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

I’d say that Father Time is doing his job. Young people don’t have the emotional baggage with Hitler. He’s just another historical figure, like Washington or Caesar, that they read about in school. Even the holy Holocaust story is losing its punch, if for no other reason than many young people aren’t white and simply don’t care what some white people did to each other a hundred years ago. Despite the fixation on fascists, young people have no real idea what it means. To them, fascists equals “mean people.” The boogeymen of the 20th century don’t mean much to people… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

When you’re no good no matter what you do, you have the opportunity to choose to not let others dictate your behavior. I hope they do that. I hope they abandon education, reputation, expectation, ideology, etc., and forge their own way.

This world hates you. It can’t stand the thought that you’ll go on without it. It wants you to die with it. Be free of it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Some young whites are following the path that you mention. But there’s another interesting group who are going the traditional route but are aware of the situation.

They’re not sure what to do. They could have a decent life in the system but they’d have to take a lot of shit over the years. OTOH, going another route – an unknown route – is dangerous.

It’ll be interesting to see what they choose.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Yes, exactly.

The other secret is that you know who is seen more sympathetically by Indians & Arabs than Churchill. Firstly because he promised to liberate all British colonies, secondly because of the Israel issue (largely caused by Churchill as well).

In the minds of libs this is impossible because you know who was the Most Racist of all time and POCs would never support the Most Racist.

I don’t necessarily think the crumbling of 20th century narratives is a bad thing even if it’s brought on by demographic changes rather than ideological ones.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Alas, accidental or willful ignorance of the past will not preclude a new generation from repeating those mistakes. In fact, I suspect it increases the risk. As some wise man said: “The only thing we learn from history is that we fail to learn from history.” Maybe the Millennials will be the first generation to achieve the dream of peace, love and universal brotherhood. I wish them the best, but humanity’s track record suggests a rather different outcome.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

As for young people, Citizen, I don’t know which is worse – the emotional baggage of Hitler or the emotional baggage of pronouns.

anarchyst
anarchyst
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

The “holohoax” is indeed the “fraud of the twentieth century” and can easily be debunked utilizing logistical and engineering principles. The Germans are good engineers but still cannot defy the laws of physics. An energy poor country ships jews by rail to camps only to kill them in non-existent “gas chambers”, also claiming to be able to to cremate thousands of bodies per day. None of these claims are possible. Add to that using “bug spray” (Zyklon B) as an execution agent is laughable. The purported “gas chambers” do not have gas tight doors, ventilation systems or explosion=proof light fixtures–all… Read more »

Melissa
Melissa
2 years ago

Great post.
Devon Stack recently compared republicans to toddlers in car seats, thrashing about while trying to break free. They’ll never be able to do so and have zero control. All the while, mom and dad (the left) are driving the car wherever they decide to go knowing the toddler in the back will never be able to escape.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

Not a bad comparison, especially as the more you struggle, the tighter the belt tension becomes.

So when does the right finally realize that you can just press the button and the seat belt releases?

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

I think at some point mommy and daddy just get out and leave the windows rolled up on a sunny day.

Lady Dandy Doodle
Lady Dandy Doodle
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Melissa, clue me in on how to find Devon Stack. I love his stuff but can’t find him on the internet. Help! Thank you.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lady Dandy Doodle
2 years ago

Bitchute channel ‘Blackpilled’ last I knew. Admittedly it’s been a while.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Yes, Devon Stack, Blackpilled, is on Bitchute and also on Odysee. He livestreams on Odysee for his Insomnia Streams.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Lady Dandy Doodle
2 years ago

Blackpilled on odysee.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

“ compared republicans to toddlers in car seats”

Yes. Listening to a conservative state his principles is like listening to a 4-year old say he wants to be a cowboy when he grows up.

He may sincerely believe it, but one can never take anything they say seriously.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

This is a great framing analogy. I was raised a free range kid: no seat belts, let alone car seats; left to my own wits and imagination with a bicycle and the admonition to be home by dinner. Every kid today is cocooned in a smothering blanket of regulations and prophylactic, safety-at-all cost egalitarianism. I am amazed that any of them still have the sense to chafe at their bonds and struggle to be free. The liberal campaign to immanentize the eschaton by removing the concept of failure from human consciousness has instead resulted in a pitiable failure to thrive,… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Maus
2 years ago

Jordan Peterson took a giant step toward this goal today, pointing out that fat women adorning the cover of SI are not fun to look at. May I take it a step further and point out also that no out one wants to look at a 70-year-old woman in a bathing suit, a la Elon Musk’s mother. It’s all of a piece with the ugly architecture they are forcing on us. Beauty reminds the toddlers on the left that there are various natural hierarchies, the summit of which they will never see. Thus Sports Castrated.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
2 years ago

Speaking as a relatively young and quite healthy person dont really get the implied disdain for the elderly here. Being old is not an analogous condition to being morbidly obese. One is a result of mental problems and poor character and the other is vaguely correlated to the opposite. Being old isnt ugly and the cultural message that everyone needs to look like teenagers is drawn from the same toilet as everything else. Admittedly haven’t seen the particular pictures in question, if shes parading around in a bikini or whatever, that’s trashy whatever the age and she deserves to be… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
2 years ago

History shows that wars end when one side (or both/all, a la the 30 Years’ War) is exhausted or broke. That’s it. So I think this will drag on until autumn, or famine, whichever comes first. Meanwhile, the spectacle of the hippie generation of politicians and the “Squad” types openly mocking mothers worried about baby formula shortages while sending weapons and $40B (the entire food stamp/afdc/wic program is only $90B!) to Ukraine is the perfect finale to the generational farce of American politics. Born in free love and free speech, the gerontocracy has become a fascist death cult – censorship,… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Captain Willard
2 years ago

Russia’s entire military budget is only ~$65 billion.

Xman
Xman
2 years ago

Of course the irony about the Hitler obsession is that Hitler was a direct but unanticipated consequence of the United States abandoning the Monroe Doctrine and meddling in the European war of 1914, and then trying to dictate democratic imperialism at Versailles. Germany became democratic, just as Professor Wilson demanded, and when Germans voted for a nationalist party in democratic elections to defend against the Bolshevik threat, we allied ourselves with the very undemocratic Soviet Union and sent the army back to kill them again. Brilliant, eh? Republican morons who see every foreign policy event as another Chamberlain-at-Munich are too… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

Not quite. The United States Congress refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

Just think of how different our politics were and could’ve been were it not for Evil Moustache. DR has been the correct name imo since ‘48 or so. Similarly for the Left, even.

Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

I’ve maintained that Mustache Guy and the fallout from his disastrous 12 years has done far more harm to the Right than anything else in the last century. He poisoned the well.

Turns out having a mentally ill former street bum running a technologically advanced military power isn’t a recipe for success.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

As the US is finding out.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

The same people would have found a different enemy and a different avenue for attack. Theyve been at war in all places and in all ways with christendom since they murdered its founder, every other cause is only a tactic

1660please
1660please
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

Thank you to you, AntiDem and the ZMan for setting the record straight on Chamberlain.

Since I knew a bit of history, one of the many threads that came together to pull me away from the Neocons several years ago was my disgust with their relentless attacks on Chamberlain, a decent man in a horrible predicament, who understood the dangers Britain faced.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
2 years ago

Good article.
While we remember Hitler we don’t remember another man who is quoted below except to tear his statues down with the approval many times of conservative Inc.
The words of Robert E Lee about the future our republic have proven to be true.

The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.
Robert E. Lee

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
2 years ago

We freed the slaves by making everyone a slave to the Leviathan.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

He’s my favorite punching bag because he would’ve been my rep if I was alive then, but all you have to do is look at the famous portrait of Thaddeus Stevens and realize he chose that facial expression. That’s how he wanted the world to see him lol.

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

One of the fundamental reasons why DC warmongers remain rabid promoters of endless war is because they have never had a rifle bullet whiz past their head or an artillery shell explode a few meters away. If that were to change, and the real carnage and sacrifice of war were to arrive on their doorstep, then perhaps that experience of reality would curtain their zeal for more bloodshed. Or not, because it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Are we then locked into a death spiral leading into WW3 and a nuclear holocaust? I often advocate waiting for… Read more »

WhereAreTheVIkings
WhereAreTheVIkings
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Ron Paul had a way of bringing to heel those who sneered the term “isolationist” at him. He schooled them on the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. As usual, he left them gaping in their idiocy, just like when he would try to explain the dangers of fractional reserve banking and fiat money to the MBAs on CNBC and got nothing but vacant stares.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  WhereAreTheVIkings
2 years ago

Reality checks are important. For those who have not yet seen the documentary “2,000 Mules”, it proves to a high degree of certainty that the 2000 Presidential Election was stolen and Biden was selected, not elected. And it wasn’t an emergent behavior phenomenon as Z has speculated, but rather a well funded, planned, organized, staffed, and executed master operation. And none of that could have happened or remained in the dark without the tacit cooperation of the senior Rs and the Stasi. My point being, we’re not fighting against incompetent bozos. This is a serious tyranny and needs to be… Read more »

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Couldn’t agree more, TomA. The impression I get from our current “leadership”, must be similar to the spectators at Bull Run. If you like dystopian YA fiction for a comparison, imagine the capitol spectators from Hunger Games. They’re enjoying the events and maybe larping at being tough guys themselves. You really have to imagine Pelosi, Schumer, Harris, et al, getting a few drinks in and enjoying the grand spectacle. Then, to make myself feel a little bit better, I then like to imagine what the Ceaușescus felt when they finally realized the gig was up for good. It always gives… Read more »

mmack
mmack
2 years ago

“Putin is Hitler, despite the Russian role in defeating the real Hitler. The Russians are the Nazis invading Poland, even though the guys on the other side are extreme Hitler enthusiasts.”

To be Faiiiiiiiiiiiir, Z, the Rooskies took half of Poland as payment for keeping quiet as The Most Evil Man Ever kicked off WW2.

In June of 1941, the Germans took the rest of it.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Funny how they never mention that Poland was ruled by a bona fide military junta, even less democratic than Nazi Germany.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Was it really lunacy, though? The Poles actually fought a war against the Soviet Union in 1920 to keep the Bolsheviks out. If Pilsudski hadn’t scored an 11th-hour victory at the Battle of Warsaw in 1920, the Red Army would have walked right into a Germany disarmed by Versailles.

One can also argue that Poland wouldn’t even have existed in 1920 if it had not been for the lunacy of Wilson at Versailles.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

Those things may all be true, but I reiterate the (isolationist) questions: What concern did the USA have in such a regional war? It is unfortunate that countries and people go to war with all the evil that entails. But again, was it really advisable to intervene? If so, why that conflict, and not any of a dozen others that (for whatever reasons) we did not step up for?

The above are surely purely questions of conjecture, speculating how things might have turned out differently. But to ask such questions should be entirely relevant in the present time.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Poland was poking the Germans hard before the war. They were openly going after the ethnic Germans living in Poland, forcing many to flee to Germany after losing everything.

(I mentioned that once to a Jewish lady who said that she had relatives who were forced to flee Germany in the 1930s. Let’s say that she was not amused.)

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

True, just pointing out the Georgian Mustache Man had as “flexible” political beliefs as the Austrian Mustache Man. Since we helped “Uncle Joe” whup Der Germans with our tanks, airplanes, trucks, radios, and food, we Americans tend to “gloss over” who he was friendly with before June 22nd, 1941. As for the Poles, they’re about as paranoid as the Russians with regards to invasion. When you bounce between Russian or German occupation (and other folks in your history) you want as much distance between yourself and your old enemies. I’ve always joked the Poles can absolutely NOT have nuclear weapons:… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

And directly addressing the possibility that the Poles might get directly involved in Ukraine, and the dangers that this would pose, is a recent article from Col. (Ret.) Douglas Macgregor: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-threat-of-polish-involvement-in-ukraine/ Yes, the Poles did defeat the invading Bolshevik army commanded by Trotsky in the 1920s, but just barely, as xman notes. But beating off the ill-organized commie rabble may have given the Poles an unwarranted sense of power that came back to haunt them a few years later. As Citizen of a Silly Country noted, the Poles were contemporaneously giving the ethnic Germans trapped in the revised borders of… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

It would probably be ignored but Dennninger posted the relevant parts of the NATO charter a couple weeks back and in no uncertain terms Article 5 is NOT applicable if a member has in any way been badgering the attacker.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Clearly the solution to the PQ is to deny them LED light bulbs. The incandescent bulbs burn out faster so the population would then be totally diverted towards the task of screwing in light bulbs, which I am told requires a team effort with Poles.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The Poles are people who sent cavalry to fight Panzers.

And won.

Insanity has been their modus operandi ever since.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/history-of-war/polish-cavalry-vs-german-tanks-the-lies-the-betrayal-and-the-unlikely-truth/

Felix Krull
Member
2 years ago

Great column. It’s as if WWII is the only history they learn at the WEF youth leadership training. It’s never about “this reminds me of Oliver Cromwell sacking Ireland” or “Catherine of Aragon’s slaughter of the Huguenots” or “Genghis Khan’s siege of Nishapur” or, God forbid, “the Holodomor”. Everything reminds them of “something we saw in Germany in the thirties”. If it wasn’t so annoying, I’d find it funny: Hitler is riding their brain like a pony. His innovation in the Cold War was to call the Russians the “evil empire.” This may be the first example of a politician… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

That is because everyone’s view of history is driven by the relentless 70 year campaign in hollywood against Germany.

Real history is irrelevant.

Its no different than the Harry Potter analogy. Constant childish, emotive driven manipulation that sets the majority view without them even realizing it. Always been the same.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Catherine of Aragon…

That’d be Catherine de Medici, before any of you history types wake up.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Thanks! Set off my Catholic bells!

What children’s show coined “evil empire”?

Ponsonby
Member
Reply to  Whitney
2 years ago

I’m thinking “Star Wars”.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

Of course. Despite the fact I did see that when I was a child I forgot it was essentially a children’s movie. Here in the days of full grown adults obsession over marvel, Harry Potter and theme parks the lines have gotten kind of blurred

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

“Hitler is riding their brain like a pony.”

Thanks for the laugh this morning.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
2 years ago

You’ve written on this before. But all this is wrapped in “Cargo Cult” behavior. Dumb down education, make life easy, remove most moral guidance and people break out the old rituals to give their life meaning. I grew up in a family full of WWII vets, never recall mention of “fighting Hitler”. On the Japanese front, while how they went post-London treaty and started invading their neighbors is a long story, Pearl Harbor is a pretty clear case of F—k Around and Find Out with economic embargoes. A fairly straightforward case of gambling on a “thunder run” (poorly executed) on… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

> Dumb down education, make life easy, remove most moral guidance and people break out the old rituals to give their life meaning. At my sister’s high school graduation, she had “Dr.” Libtard give a commencement speech (his doctorate was in Education, of course). He essentially told everyone graduating they were all small town hicks who were going to have to realize the diversity of the outside world and challenge their preconceptions. The smugness is what really got me, as he grew up near our town and really thought his ten years in academia made him enlightened. My old man… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I travel in “cloud people” land and the type you describe are some the worst. They “escape” that and spend the rest of their lives shitting on where they came from. My family (for the last 200 years) is what you’d classify as “Appalachian belt”. My dad grew up in a town so small they had to pay seven man football in high school. Only reason he and his brother went to college was because they spent sporky time in Korea killing ChiComs. But, though very successful after, he never crapped on people “below” his economic station. It was a… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

This reminds me quite a bit of online dating in the Portland area back in the before times. Every single freaking 20-something woman in Portland had moved there from the midwest, and her profile was just endlessly blathering about how wonderful it was living in an enlightened place away from those evil hicks, with such ahh-mAAAzing culture. Said culture consisting of the fact that the Portland food cart scene makes getting diarrhea much more convenient than anywhere else.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

“Talk like MLK, live like the KKK”

Many such cases.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

“In their mating and migratory habits, liberals are indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan.” – Joe Sobran

Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Diversity has kept the peace? My word. The mentality would be ghoulishly fascinating if the consequences weren’t so dire.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Iron Maiden
2 years ago

Actually, that is true in at least one case. “Divide and rule” is an age-old tradition of authoritarian government. If you are a minority colonial or other power, few things will facilitate your rule better than a populace of two (ideally more) factions who hate each other more than they do the ruling elite. A despot’s worst nightmare is a united opposition from the peons.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Iron Maiden
2 years ago

Don’t you recall in the 70’s when all those raging ABBA fans in Sweden were detonating bombs, torching police cars, and stabbing old ladies to death with kitchen knives in their local IKEA store.

TotemHaller
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The old observation about the difference between north and south certainly applies, a southerner does not mind blacks living nearby, if they are not socially equal, and a northerner does not mind blacks as social equals if they do not live close…

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

It’s funny that someone embedded in the utopian monoculture of Iceland could think that. She lives like a White Supremacist’s dream.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago


Iceland is Sweden on steroids. It’s like Vermont: 98% white, and they send a Bernie Sanders to the Senate.

What’s weirder is that the Icelanders are immensely proud of their heritage. Sometimes in the nineties, they invited a gene tech company to map out the entire Icelandic genome, so most of them are able to trace their ancestors back to the settlement, often to specific persons in the sagas.

https://www.wired.com/2015/03/iceland-worlds-greatest-genetic-laboratory/

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Like Sweden on steroids. You mean it’s being taken over by Muslims?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Like they’re flaming, frothing-at-the-mouth libruls who adore primitive tribespeople almost as much as they adore themselves.

Iceland don’t have many enrichers yet because frankly, Iceland is barren, damp, cold and utterly devoid of civilization; not even asylum tourists want to live there.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

“These people live diversity in the abstract and from a great distance, but they choose to live as white nationalists.”

You’re describing the typical white liberal, who lives in abstractions untethered from race reality.

“Diversity has kept the peace” is such a nonsensical statement it’s difficult to know where to start attacking it.

manc
manc
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

That describes my half shit-lib small town in Ohio to a tee. It’s become a bolt hole for people fleeing the implications of what they say they believe.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Pity the poor Icelanders. They are so “diverse,” they have to use a smartphone app to ensure they’re not putting the moves on a first cousin. Talk about a failure to grasp reality. Of course Zman laughed. What else can you do when confronted with the absurd?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Maus
2 years ago

They are so “diverse,” they have to use a smartphone app to ensure they’re not putting the moves on a first cousin.

They don’t need an app for that, they have their family sorted out down to the last great-grandniece.

And Icelanders are no more absurd than, say, Californians – much less so, in fact. The girl Z-Man met, might as well have been American.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

I grew up in a family full of WWII vets, never recall mention of “fighting Hitler”.

Never met a combat vet who talked war with civvies. During the Algerian war, my grandfather was in a cavalry recon platoon. The only time he ever mentioned the war (in my presence) was when he advised me never to ride a mare to war lest you be raped by the horse behind you.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

They would talk mostly among each other at family gatherings. And children have good hearing. And my one grandad who spent the war in the North Atlantic, had a fondness for Ballentyne Ale after work and liked me (didn’t like many other people) and after about the third or fourth was pretty open. I was also educated as a historian, so from an early age was always good at assembling disparate bits of information. Served me well in the due diligence business.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

To be fair, my granddad was in a penal unit; the black sheep of the family, he had gone AWOL during a leave, and was scheduled to a date with Madame Guillotine before the sentence was commuted to penal duty.

So maybe there’s a good reason he never talked about the war.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

Had two Uncles in WWII. One in the Pacific Theater and the other in Europe. Both served in the Meat Grinder and lived.
They hardly ever mentioned the people they fought against. Instead they warned about the system they fought for.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

“Smedley Butler” syndrome. I remember when my dad (Korea) “broke” on Vietnam. Used to watch the news w/him each evening. Watching Huntley\Brinkley one night and just starts cursing at the TV. Think it was around Tet. I don’t recall exactly what said. But he later apologized just saying what a waste it was. And he’d seen a stalemate up close. Mind you he was pretty gung ho and only a year or so before was arguing with maternal uncle who lived w/us while in school about how shameful it was that he got a shrink to declare him “crazy” to… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

had a n uncle die in combat in Korea . it was enough to keep many of my cousins away from the recruiters office .

LendLeazy
LendLeazy
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

Lately I have been wondering about the Pearl Harbor comparisons w/ the new Slav Saga. I don’t think this analogy works the way the Ukrainiacs think it does; or rather, it cuts both way. EU/NATO was supporting a bad civil war in the now-broken-away republics — surely as bad as any sectarian violence anywhere else in Europe, possibly as bad as the pointless destruction in Syria and other Middle East basket case lands — so it is, well, unrealistic to think Russia was going to let it keep going until their guys lost. Yet EU/NATO either did not foresee this,… Read more »

AntiDem
AntiDem
2 years ago

The slander against Neville Chamberlain ignores the fact that when he signed his treaty with Hitler, the British military was in absolutely no condition to fight the Nazis. If they’d tried, they would have lost, and lost decisively. Chamberlain figured that at best, Hitler might keep his word long-term. But at worst, the treaty would buy the British a couple of precious years to rebuild their forces, which Chamberlain did as aggressively as he could. The gigantic battleship King George V was Chamberlain ‘s baby, as was the Spitfire. Both would prove invaluable to stopping Britain from being invaded from… Read more »

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

I learn more on this site in any given day than during an entire semester in the diploma mill. Thanks for this enlightening post.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
2 years ago

The old joke in boxing is that Father Time is undefeated, but drew with Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins, for those who don’t follow boxing, was twice the oldest man to win a world title of note. Of course, in his last fight he got knocked out of the ring and landed on his head, but the answer to your question of whether the actuarial tables can do their work before it’s too late is probably “No.” I don’t want to go too deep into the JQ (and there are a lot of other elements here), but they live forever and grow… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Joey Jünger
2 years ago

Kissinger and Soros are big WTFs. Kissinger wasn’t young when I was born and I’m old.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

There is a reason so much fetal stem cell material is required from the abortion complex and we seem to be run by 80 year olds.

Its interesting how women have been mind controlled to willingly sacrifice their babies for the old age treatments of the connected.

Those extra treatments available in the club are sure attractive to the ever expanding club.

As you get older who is going to give that up?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

WEF stooge Leana Wen made bank trafficking baby parts when she led Planned Parenthood.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

There was a case recently (like the Gosnell horror case) in which young Hispanic-American girls were being invited to parties by other girls who would then get them drunk and let boys take advantage of them. The girls were then threatened (by cartel members, operating on this side of the border) to remain pregnant for a few months, then get abortions, for which they would be paid a nominal fee. The fetuses (extracted by a doctor in Juarez) were then sold to a Chinese cosmetics firm. Apparently the unborn tissue has a rejuvenating effect on the faces of rich old… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Joey Jünger
2 years ago

Most people when faced with evil choose to believe it’s not really there; or even really evil. Their mind can’t comprehend the existence of such horror so their mind doesn’t allow it.

““The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” -J Edgar Hoover

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

A while ago I was reading an old translation of pseudo-appolodorus and he had a section on Medea renewing Jason’s father and others to youth by replacing their blood with new young blood.

This is the sort of “ritual” knowledge knocking around in certain circles since the bronze age it seems.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Hungarian noblewoman Elizabeth Bathory figured out the benefits of youthful blood in the 16th century:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Funny thing about blood transfusions, if you get enough, or just the right ones, you’ll develop antibodies which can kill you, and will never go away. Until finally, you’ve developed enough antibodies that you can no longer receive blood cells, no matter how badly you need them.

Now, you could get phenotypically matched blood and drag this out longer, but that requires a lot more infrastructure. Not undoable in a clandestine setting, but difficult.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

@Outdoorspro

I always wondered why the whole media thing about cloning vanished in the early 90s after the massive stories about the sheep etc.

No antibodies to yourself.

Wonder what those biolabs around the world are up to?

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Joey Jünger
2 years ago

Just imagine something other than sneakers hanging from those wires and we’d probably be on the right track.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

Power and telephone wires are engineered to withstand the load of winter icing, a flock of roosting birds, or high winds. But a man’s weight might be too much. I’d recommend a stout tree limb or perhaps the mast of a convenient street lamp. 🙂

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Joey Jünger
2 years ago

Why a vid about the nice neighborhoods? Lawsy, that must be the cleanest, safest hood in Philly, or it’s a film from 1950.

I call and raise you six.
Roosevelt Blvd and Rising Sun to 2nd St. And it’s just a regular place where regular folks live.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 years ago

> Churchill is not a reckless warmonger known for his alcoholism and lack of judgment, but a heroic visionary who could spot Old Scratch coming before anyone.

It shows the effectiveness of the propaganda machine that a man so despised he was thrown out of office right after the war is now considered the gold standard for national leadership.

If you want a good example of modern spin, check out this article talking about Churchill’s well documented advocacy of gassing cities:

https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-160/leading-myths-churchill-advocated-the-first-use-of-lethal-gas/

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

If you’ve dealt in complex litigation with “white shoe” forms the contract lawyer v litigator is a good analogy. Normally you deal with the “contract guys”, suave, cultured, went to great schools. When things go wrong, they call down to the “litigation specialists” that are usually kept in cages on a different floor. Whole different creature if you’ve seen them in action. Chamberlain was an old urbane partner on the oak paneled floor. Churchill, was let out of his cage to do the ripping and tearing, then put back in once the job was done.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Or read David Irving’s biography on the man – that is where all modern Churchill critics get their ammunition. I’m afraid we’re still waiting for volume three, but the two first can be downloaded for free on Irving’s website. (As can his opus magnum, Hitler’s War.)

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I would say public opinion on Churchill after the war was mixed, if not slightly positive since the British were seen as the victors again, even though they couldn’t have come close to accomplishing it on their own. The British of that generation were still raised to believe they were the greatest country in the world, and Churchill allowed some of them to still believe it. There is a video on Youtube of Churchill’s funeral procession set to “I vow to Thee My Country.” There are enormous crowds lining the streets to pay their respects, it includes men who are… Read more »

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

There are a couple of YouTube videos of modern people who tried to keep up with Churchill’s daily drinking routine (and that doesn’t even include the amphetamines and barbiturates that his doctors were prescribing him). Basically, none of them could manage it, and you come away wondering how Churchill could remain functional at all.

https://youtu.be/PrbwvG0XeUQ

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

That recalls one of my favorite scenes from “Game of Thrones,” save those that don’t involve nudity 😀

Tyrian Lannister (“The Imp”) is scolding his page for not being able to keep up with the drinking: “It’s not easy being drunk all the time. If it were easy, everyone would do it.” 🙂

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
2 years ago

You wrote “quotes Harry Potter”, and my eyes saw “VOTES Harry Potter.”

Same difference.

An entire generation of leaders about to come to power who’ve never read any of the Classics of Western Civilization, and know only poorly written stock board characters from a children’s book.

Have the feelzzz, wave the wand, hope really hard, and good wins. Yay!

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 years ago

As you indicate, all these babbling and incoherent voices are bought and paid for by the military-industrial complex. That’s probably all there is to it. And this MIC has become something like the egregores or golems of the kind that (supposedly) were created and used in the Middle Ages — something artificially created that has developed a life and dynamic of its own.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

A large part of the MIC’s purpose is to provide a paid distraction for lots of intelligent men to service their family’s debt rather than noticing what is really happening in the West.