The Rocks Of War

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Wars often turn over rocks exposing truths about the age that have either been ignored or hidden from the world. Old tactics, in the case of the Great War, were exposed as obsolete by modern weapons. Sometimes it is in war that the hollowness of a great power is exposed. This was the case of the Soviets in Afghanistan. That war exposed the internal weakness of the regime. The war in Ukraine is similarly exposing problems in the collective West.

The first lesson of this war so far is that Western intelligence has been exposed as useless in understanding modern Russia. At every turn, the information provided to political leaders about what Russia is doing and planning to do has turned out to be more fantasy than reality. The West has been operating on assumptions that may have been true twenty-five years ago but are no longer true today. The result has been a total political failure in response to the invasion.

The big example of this was the claim that the Russians could only support their army in Ukraine for a couple of months. Western strategy was built on the assumption that the Ukrainians just had to hold out for a month or two. They would dig into fortified positions and wait out the Russian assault. Instead, a highly mobile and patient Russian assault is slowly decimating the Ukrainian army. Three months into the conflict and the Russians are on the cusp of victory.

This is another rock turned over in this war. The West has been preparing for a war with a Russian army than has not existed since the Cold War. The Soviet way of war was something called deep battle doctrine. This is based on a highly mobile, combined arms approach to fighting. The Russians would find a weak spot in the enemy front, concentrate forces there, break through the lines and then flood the zone with armor and infantry, creating chaos in the enemy rear.

The Soviet approach required large numbers of men. It imagined millions of men mobilized to fight in the West. This is not the new Russian way of war. The Russians, like everyone else in the West, have been living in the age of low fertility and rising standards of living. Mobilizing millions of men and throwing them into battle like Stalin did against the Nazis is no longer acceptable. Instead, the Russians have organized around reducing casualties to the minimum.

As a practical matter, what those hunkered down Ukrainians have been facing is something like what the Mongols brought to the fight. Instead of one massive army centrally controlled from the rear, it is a collection of small units, self contained and self-directed toward narrow goals. These units combine infantry, armor, mobile artillery and air support, along with the use of drones. This is combined arms warfare reduced to small units working independently.

Because these units are smaller, they are more intolerant of personnel losses, so they are more cautious. A unit that loses its tanks is no longer effective as a unit, so the premium is on reducing losses. The goal is to use speed and mobility to find weak spots in the enemy and quickly exploit them, with minimum losses. Overall, this is a much slower approach to fighting, but once a weakness is exposed, it can be exploited much faster due to the improved mobility and flexibility.

This is on display in the Donbas. The Russians used artillery and airpower to break down the Ukrainian defenses at Popasnaya, which is a strategic town in the middle of the contact line. The Russians were then able to rush units into this breech and employ the modern version of deep battle doctrine. These small units combined to turn the contact line into a series of pockets surrounded by Russian units. Now the Russians are pounding these cauldrons with artillery and air power.

The result is the West, primarily Washington, prepared the Ukrainians to fight the wrong war against the wrong army. Instead of a short defense against a Soviet siege, they are getting a war of attrition against a highly mobile and flexible army using the right weapons for such a fight. That is another aspect of this war that should be a wake up call to Western planners. The Russian weapons are better and more useful than the Western weapons supplied to the Ukrainians.

In line with the new way of fighting, the Russians have developed weapons that can be incredibly useful with small, combined arms units. They do not require a complex information grid so that commanders in the rear can direct the action. Modern technology is used to make it easy for these small units to fight effectively on their own or quickly combine with other units on the fly. The Russians have also done their homework and have evolved effective counter measures.

This is why the many “game changers” the West has sent to the Ukrainians have failed to do much damage to the Russian forces. The javelin has been a bust. The Man-portable air defense systems (ManPads) are worthless. The Russians have made these weapons obsolete. The big shock is their drone defense. The kamikaze drones and the Turkish TB2 have not been the game changer that was promised because the Russians have evolved effective jamming tools.

Probably the biggest rocks turned over in this war are economic. The assumption of the West when they instigated this war was that the Russian economy had not changed since the end of the Cold War. For a long time, the West has looked at Russia as a gas station masquerading as a country. It was a version of Venezuela, wholly dependent on selling natural resources to the West. If the sale of those resources slowed just a bit, then the Russian economy would collapse.

This has turned out to be wildly wrong. Now, part of this failure is due to the raging bigotry of the neocons behind the war. Their seething hatred for the Russian people has blinded them to many things. The economic revolution that has taken place in Russia is the biggest one. It turns out that the Russian economy is much more resilient and flexible than anyone in the West realized. As a result, the sanctions regime has turned out to be a disastrous failure.

That has turned over another economic rock. The European economy has been revealed to be a house of cards. The sanctions regime is creating havoc for the Europeans, because their economy was based on the assumption that the Russians would always supply them with cheap necessities. The EU is a mommy economy where Mother Russia makes sure her babies are warm and fed. Shortages and spirally prices are bringing this reality home to Europeans.

In total, what the war in Ukraine is revealing is that the collective West has been living in a fantasy world for the last few decades. Without a real challenge, they have been allowed to indulge in whatever fantasies they liked. Like trust fund babies raised in insular opulence, Western leaders are unprepared for a world where they have to perform their role as elites. The war is exposing them as a toxic blend of self-indulgence, stupidity and ignorance.

The truth about war is that the rocks that it turns over cannot be turned back over to hide the truth underneath. The West will now have to face this new reality, especially on the economic front. The grand schemes for creating a new world order in the image of Western elites will now have to give way to this new realty. What has been revealed is that the new world order is one in which the West must compete in a multipolar world of civilizational equals. That means a new elite for this new age.


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Kevin Kenney
Kevin Kenney
2 years ago

Picked up one of your shirts and I’m wearing it with pride. (Not that kind of pride only found in June, the real kind) Anyway, the shirt is well made, and looks good. My only suggestion would be maybe to add a pithy saying on the back. Maybe something like “You are not alone” (because until I found your writings, I basically didn’t know others felt the same way I do. You routinely say the things I guess most of us feel or believe, but nobody else is saying). Or perhaps “Take the red pill, it only hurts a little”… Read more »

Steve
Steve
2 years ago

A brilliant article that sums up exactly what is happening. How can the West and it’s “elites” have been so stupid? With the way things are going to be this winter, they will be lucky to escape with their lives.

Elias
Elias
Reply to  Steve
2 years ago

Never underestimate the stupidity of western elites. 🙂

Whiskey
Whiskey
2 years ago

Things that have been exposed are: *The AK-47/74 not being suited to a professional military. The inability to hang optics, IR illuminators etc on the weapon means Russian forces cannot fight at night. A few special units have an updated design that are optics friendly but most units are iron sights only meaning they retreat at night. Not good when confronting (soon) US forces. *Signals discipline by Russian and foreign fighters has been poor. Leading to 12 dead Russian generals and foreign fighters being obliterated by missiles in Lyvov. All by targeting cell phone data. One need not listen in,… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whiskey
2 years ago

“*Three Front Wars being unsustainable — DC is operating in a peacetime “limited Iraq/Libya mode” against what is aimed to be a decades long war against Russia, China, and the White male population at home.” You can be quite hyperbolic, but this was a profound point you made earlier into this thing and it seems to have proved true. Apparently the Regime was so delusional it thought it could make China fall into line and the Whites it had oppressed get war fever for Muh Ukraine. Apparently enlistments have plummeted, which of course is a good thing, and obviously China… Read more »

Frip
Member
2 years ago

Z from a few weeks ago. Well said.

“Perhaps the psychosis of liberal democracy will finally be beaten out of the West in what is looking like another futile and pointless war of choice. Despite the disparity in wealth, the Russians merely have to continue to exist in order to win. For the West, liberal democracy requires the unconditional surrender of Eurasian identity to the homogenizing forces of Liberal democracy. History shows that this is every bit as futile as the crusades against Islam.”

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

Somewhat relevant, but submitted for your amusement. I posted a very late addition comment (#992) on this Unz article:

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/larry-c-johnson-the-ukrainian-army-has-been-defeated-whats-left-is-mop-up/?showcomments#new_comments

Less than a day later “J2” posted a reply (#993), quoted in part: “Putin asked Kissinger and NYT journalists to tell Ukraine that it cannot win.” I just replied “LOL”. I browsed J2’s posting history. Among his other comments, he apparently is a noted researcher who has refuted Einstein’s Theories of Special AND General Relativity. No further need to check J2’s credentials. 😀

https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/calling-all-cosmologists/#comment-5333639

KL
KL
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

Unz Review in 2022 is a weird combination of Stormfront circa 2008 and a psych ward. Plus the occasional pro-Russian lefty like Michael Hudson, who is actually worth reading. Some of the posters clearly have schizophrenia and post things in all caps about how the Illuminati are reading their minds.

Frip
Member
2 years ago

Si Vis: “In Ukraine areas under their control the Russians are switching the local economy to rubles, they have started to pay pensions and salaries, they are switching phone lines and the internet to Russian operators, they are issuing Russian license plates, they are issuing Russian passports like it is raining, *they have even switched the time zone to the Moscow one*” The time zone thing killed me. The Russians I’ve known all love to laugh. You can picture them in a conference room coming up with all these changes. Then some Ivan jokingly suggests they change the time zone… Read more »

SamilAdams
SamilAdams
2 years ago

Best. Comment. Section. Ever.

We Hate Everyone
We Hate Everyone
2 years ago

All that needs to be said is this is White slavic brother on brother carnage made possible by an arrogant hostile tribe member who “makes funny” dressing in pop leather and playing a piano with his penis. Wherever the chips may fall, undeniably this atrocity is driven by peoples “of the pale”. The hoofbeats have cost countless good white slavic men their lives, especially on the ukie side. The WaPo article claims these brave men who volunteered are but common farmers, shopkeepers, mechanics… Real White men, all led by a “front group” to the front lines to be shelled, a… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  We Hate Everyone
2 years ago

I hear you, but turn that anger into resolve. It’s not over. Get fit, get ready. When the fog arrives, you will need your wits and your strength. Use this time to train yourself to be a nobody that nobody notices. The Stasi will first roundup those with a target on their back, so don’t make it easy on them. Chopping wood is a great remedy for dissipating anger at the current crazy. Use your imagination when swinging that long handle axe. Break a sweat with every stroke.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  We Hate Everyone
2 years ago

Dude, you’ve got a “Mouth for War.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JSbOt7CLo

Take wise TomA’s advice and channel that huge anger of yours into making yourself fitter and smarter. Sprint as hard as you can for just 30 seconds. Don’t drive yourself crazy.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
2 years ago

Gunner,
This is what the police thought was happening, but the situation you describe is not what happened, the police actually admitted that they made a mistake. Kids were calling 911 from the school while police were waiting in the hall.

GunnerQ
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

Thank you! I’d missed that development while traveling this weekend.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RoboFascist 1st
2 years ago

RoboFascist 1st: Those reserves were probably transferred to Kolomoisky’s personal accounts very soon thereafter. The French were smart (back when they were French) to get their gold out of the US. Anyone who believes what they claim is actually in Fort Knox is not terribly bright.

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

You are probably right about Kolomoisky and where part of the gold went.

I will posit that even in 2022 fiat money world that future warfare is predictable based on previous large scale gold transfers and thefts. From Ukraine to Venezuela, Libya to Germany and even to Texas… gold is being stolen or demanded as to be return in physical form to Austin or Frankfurt.

At the end of the day… bankers want gold.

Crush Limbraw
2 years ago

Bottom line – when DaNYT, WaPo and Henry K all recommend to sue for peace – REALITY has been declared!
Case closed.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Crush Limbraw
2 years ago

What do you mean?

Vegetius
Vegetius
2 years ago

This new old way of Russian war: what role are NCO’s playing in it at the squad/platoon level?

Received wisdom during the Cold War was that Russian non-comms lacked the authority/initiative of their counterparts in the US Army.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Vegetius
2 years ago

Vegetius-

I have heard the same anecdotes regarding Russian NCOs during the Cold War.

On the flip side, Patrick Lancaster was running around Mariupol with an old salt you could observe and know he was going to come through this mess just fine.

In my years of working with a Third World army in a socialist North African country, I found that most NCOs were simply privates that had been in for five years.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
2 years ago

The reporting on the Ukrainian war has always felt to me like the Trump-Hillary contest in 2016. Back then, every day the media carpet bombed us with stories about how doomed Trump was and how inevitable Hillary was. Yet, we all enjoyed the videos of election night.

Similarly, every day we are bombarded with news about how doomed the Russians are and how amazing the plucky Ukrainians are.

I look forward to the videos when Russia secures Donbas. And I don’t even have a dog in this fight. I just love it when our elites are reduced to hysterical weeping.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

They are paid to be unaware such sources exist. Or if backed into a corner, they will call them disinformation, racist, and white supremacist. And this being a war, at least the first accusation would be likely true.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

As Keynes said, it is difficult to get a man to understand something that his job depends on him not understanding….

miforest
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

could be they are setting up the normie to believe that the desperat putin nerve gassed the ukraine in a desperate attempt to forstall the eminent defeat that “everyone knew ” was coming . so america has to act!

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

“I look forward to the videos when Russia secures Donbas.”

One significant difference: the media had to report the outcome of the 2016 election. With regard to Donbas, there’s no such compulsion. I expect either a media blackout or the story being relegated to the back pages. The whole Ukraine story will just die out as far as mass media is concerned.

(((They)) Live
(((They)) Live
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago
Elias
Elias
Reply to  (((They)) Live
2 years ago

That day felt like 1,000 Christmas mornings. 🥰

Puszczyk
Puszczyk
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Even in Poland the truth is lowly breaking out via independent reporters who go directly to battle-zones and speak with ordinary people. Bombing hours became “the new normal” and people are passively awaiting the conclusion. The only Ukrainians full of pep will be the ones far from the front-lines in western oblasts and in Poland.

Alexander Scipio
Alexander Scipio
2 years ago

Left unsaid is that our current elites can not recognize this and so will not. To meet these new challenges, our elites will have to be replaced. As they will not agree, being incapable of recognizing their obsolescence, they will have to be replaced through force. Because the bench coming up behind them have made their way by mimicking their elders (for campaign cash from the same owners), our bench, too, sucks. Because our media and our “education” (LOL) system are so bad, the people we need to progress are few and far between. The elite want it that way… Read more »

mousey
mousey
Reply to  Alexander Scipio
2 years ago

Exposed is not the word I would have chosen. We have been reminded once again of the incompetency of the foreign intelligence service.

threestars
threestars
Member
2 years ago

I don’t know where you get your information on the War in Ukraine from, but your sources are ridiculously bad. Yes, Russians are using “snail’s pace” tactics and might take the whole of the Donbass before this is over (not much of a prize considering everyone expected them to blitz through Ukraine), but their losses are still unacceptably high. Even pro-Russian outlets like Southfront and Intel Slava are admiting as much. Your takes on this war had been so far appallingly bad, which is a rather poor fit for someone who constantly describes other as “dumb as a sack of… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

So only total Russian victory over Ukraine in a week or two is success? You’re an idiot. The Russians are hammering the Ukrainians in the Donbass. It’s actually pretty horrific. And the reason that the Russians are moving so slow (at least according to you) is that they’re protecting their troops. The Russian army probes, finds Ukrainian units, pulls back and then lets the artillery or air strikes obliterate those units. It’s a slow process but brutally effective and minimizes Russian casualties. If you don’t believe Z, check out this channel, which has been critical of both the Russians and… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

There *is* an element of speed to be considered. Yes, a win is a win—but *if* the slow grind is attributed to “weakness”, then NATO becomes emboldened. Heck, it already is—if sources are to be believed wrt Poland’s shenanigans in training and arming resistance to Russia.

The longer Ukraine presents a viable resistance to Russia, the more resources will be made available from NATO. Wild card of course is the EU and the suffering their people are willing to endure for a corrupt oligarchy and faux “democracy” called Ukraine.

But what do I know.

DW
DW
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

The AFU’s command and control is pretty much gone. It will take a while to finish. The AFU has defensive lines all over the east put in over the last eight years.
But remember the goal denazify and demilitarize. This means they have to kill or capture as many AFU soldiers as possible. Its a waste of life.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

“The Russians are hammering the Ukrainians in the Donbass.”

Yep. Unequivocally. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. The Russians are pulverizing the Ukrainians. It’s being done calmly and methodically.

threestars
threestars
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

>So only total Russian victory over Ukraine in a week or two is success? Hard to tell what Russian initial objectives actually were. Russian Military plans appear to have called for exactly your “idiot” scenario. Most Western analists went for taking over Eastern Ukraine in 2 months or so. Putin was suggestive about topling Zelensky and the current regime. None of those are achievable right now, which makes their initial military operation a failure. I guess that ending up with more territory than you started a war of aggression with is technically a victory. The same way as retrieving a… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

Twist words much. That said, you’re not showing the usual Hasbara telltale signs, so that’s nice. Since you seem to have some reading comprehension skills issues, let me spell out what I said. I said that only an idiot would use total victory in a week or two as the benchmark for success. The Russians most certainly didn’t use that as a benchmark. That said, that’s a very reasonable chance that the Russians were hoping – again, “hoping” – for that scenario. Who knows, but it wouldn’t be surprising if the Russians were doing two things at once strategically when… Read more »

threestars
threestars
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

You seem to work under the assumption that leaders of state don’t make a cost beneffit analysys before deciding on something. In our case, it’s Putin weighing the potential gains of attacking Ukraine against projected losses in manpower and the economic costs encured by the inevitable reaction from the West. I know our camp is keen to kneejerk that “MuH sAncshen HUrt the WEst MOer” but that’s not the point. From the perspective of Russia, they lost trade with a huge economic block, and on the long term, losing trade partners is never good. The fact that the highly competent… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I think I’ll pair a screenshot of the 3-star general’s quote to that picture of Hannity partying with Jussie Smollett at a New York nightclub.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

How is the Donbass not a prize, it the best part of the Ukraine, and leaving the Ukraine landlocked is a win

The Russians may get less than they wanted at the start, but it will be a big loss for the (((evil empire)))

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

The Donbass is very important. Equally important, however, is separating Ukraine from the GAE and enforcing its neutrality as a buffer state between Russia and NATO. Russia will take the Donbass. Of that, there is little doubt. The second objective, however, seems less certain. I don’t think Ukraine’s present government will flee or capitulate unless they believe the conquest of Kiev is imminent. This outcome, too, may happen, but it appears to be on a very distant horizon.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

I think the coastline all the way to Odessa is the achievable goal.kiev itself seems a more political prize,and quite negotiable. The political winds are shifting and I hear more and more voices arising around Europe seeking to quell their leaders madness.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

I think the Damocles’ sword of further Russian incursion will remain over the heads of the surviving Ukrainian leadership. That will enforce neutrality. Yes, Russia definitely wants Ukraine as a buffer. It doesn’t want to conquer it. It doesn’t want to be responsible for it. It doesn’t care if it is a failed state. It just wants it as a buffer.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

Russia will certainly be content with Ukraine as a buffer. However, if the Ukrainian government does something profoundly stupid like fighting Russia to the final soldier, Russia will happily swallow the whole of Ukraine. For historical and nationalistic reasons, Russia would not be averse to annexing the first Russian state.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Fact Check: True. And the second largest natural gas reserve in Europe, the first being in Russia.

threestars
threestars
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

It’s coal reserve is significant but I wouldn’t call it “massive”. There’s little natural gas in Eastern Ukraine. The massive reserves are past the Don, and Russia is less likely to obtain them now than it was in March.

threestars
threestars
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

*Dnieper ffs. I was thinking of the Don Cossaks for some reason.

si vis pacem, para bellum
si vis pacem, para bellum
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

They aren’t taking just the Donbas, they are taking all of the East and the South, basically Ukraine’s best parts producing 75% of its GDP. In the areas under their control they are switching the local economy to rubles, they have started to pay pensions and salaries they are switching phone lines and the internet to Russian operators, they are issuing Russian license plates, they are issuing Russian passports like it is raining, they have even switched the time zone to the Moscow one. I could go on but basically, what Russia is “conquering” (really, liberatingl ain’t ever going back… Read more »

threestars
threestars
Member
Reply to  si vis pacem, para bellum
2 years ago

>The Russian Federation is winning, and winning big. Well, that would be some switch because it’s been losing, and losing shamefully until now. You seem to be deluding yourselves into thinking that just because its latest offensive has seen some *underwhelming* tactical success, the Russian war effort hasn’t hitherto been a failure in the light of its innitial objectives. The Zelensky government wasn’t toppled, Kharkov, and Kiev are under no threat of Russian control, and NATO is more popular than ever. The most backward regions of Ukraine, Kherson and a ruined Mariupol are lackluster consolation prizes against everything military analists… Read more »

si vis pacem, para bellum
si vis pacem, para bellum
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

You are a magnificent example of the GIGO concept: garbage in garbage out. A perfect example of the average brainwashed Westerner who, based solely on the BS he is fed daily by the MSM and the Western politicians thinks he knows it all and pretends to teach someone with actual first hand knowledge what’s really going on. Sad and pathetic… I am not going to waste too much of my time with you so this is not going to be an in-depth answer. “The Zelensky government wasn’t toppled” The conflict has not ended, it’s just been 3 months, and the… Read more »

former cia
former cia
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

yes threestars , I’m sure that is what the western media has told you , and they never ever lie. this whole debacle is the GAE using the puppet former star of movies for sensitive men to feed ukrainian men into hopeless sure death situations. nato provoked this war, and escalated hostilities untill the rus had no choice but to act. Now the GAE keeps it going to maximize casualties on both sides.

BellCarolExpert
BellCarolExpert
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

I have noted the “Russia-is-redneck-bushwhacker” reply guy species is slowly replacing the earlier “Ukrainians-are-Conan-cyber-ninjas” breed. The fact that Russia controls a bunch of places on a map that it didn’t 90 days ago doesn’t seem to faze these people — Slav East team is always, always risking imminent total humiliation by Slav West team (latter is of course renowned for its economic and technologic competence during the pandemic — really the pluckiest batch of Spartans you can find anywhere, like the new Churchill when ya think about it)

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  BellCarolExpert
2 years ago

Ukraine is a stripper pole in a wheat field, with a brothel down the road and a bank in town with Hunter Biden accounts on the books,

Hi - Ya!
Hi - Ya!
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

Because Zman is confident and says stiff like, “what this means…” automaticity means he’s right, dummy!

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

I have wondered lately what the reaction to the inevitable Russian victory will be from people like you. You might listen to NPR or PBS or watch the news networks and those people have done nothing but spread silly pro Ukraine propaganda from day 1. You have been fed a steady diet of this stuff. I understand your anger but that anger should be directed at the same people that fed you all of the recent fake news including the Russian collusion hoax bs and now Ukraine , and not at our host.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  WJ0216
2 years ago

It’s like a combination of the Ethiopian famine of ’83 combined with the jingoism of the first Gulf War.

Max
Max
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

I just glanced at Southfront and Intel Slava, but could not find anything about Russian losses. Do you have a link to anything that substantiates your claim of unacceptably high Russian losses?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  threestars
2 years ago

Greetings!

How is the weather in Langley today?

Or is it Quantico?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

The Ukrainian army in the east is getting slaughtered. And they have no hope of winning. These men are being sacrificed. The only reason to keep these guys fighting is to buy time.

If the Ukrainian leadership isn’t using this time to build a new army in west, then they’re literally murdering these guys. But I’m not hearing any news about the creation of an army, just about the fighting in the east.

If that’s the case, Zelensky should never be allowed to live.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

According to the Alex’s on the Duran, the Ukes are now enlisting men in their forties and fifties.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Build a new army in the west . with who!?!?!?. how? that talk is like hitlers secret plan to win wwII in feb of 1945

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
2 years ago

This Ukraine business still perplexes me. I figured there must be some truth to the notion that the going was harder than Russia expected, given the slow pace. (Not that I’ve thought Ukraine ever had a chance.) But it sounds like Russia is dominant in spite of its lingering. It’s the strangest war. Theatrical, even.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

I think the notion of “slow pace” is one that is a result of our modern conditioning. Though I do believe that Russia has received heavier casualties than expected (seems they were right – NATO was pumping Ukraine full of weapons), the area they have occupied is, roughly looking at a map, 5000 square miles or so. This isn’t uninhabited terrain like some sand people desert. I also think it is safe to say that there is not much of an insurgent force left after occupying a territory. The Second Chechen war was several months in a much smaller territory.… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Russia has just switched a slower paced tactic. It’s using air power and overwhelming artillery to grind down the Ukrainians in the east. The strategy protects Russian troops while utterly destroying the Ukrainian army.

It’s like boxing. The Russians are hitting the Ukrainians with body blow after body blow. It’s not as cool looking at punches to the face, but it’s crushing them all the same.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

“Kill the body and the head will die”. -Joe Frazier. Not the most exciting boxer to watch, but he was relentless.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

Frazier was just fine as a boxer. Ali’s comments about him were pretty tacky.

Tyson was Frazier turned up to 13, unfortunately he fought in the 80s, which were meh for the heavyweight division.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

I haven’t been following the fighting in great detail, but what I have read reminds me of the last stages of the First World War in the west. Heavy artillery bombardments, infantry moving forward, sometimes with the assistance of tanks, to occupy the bombarded ground. Consolidate those gains, then start the bombardment for the next conquest. Do it in sector after sector across the front and forget about major breakthroughs to be exploited by cavalry. Positional warfare can turn on the ability to take objectives that may not appear all that important on a map. Eventually even the well-disciplined German… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
2 years ago

The US took that to heart in WWII, perfecting “time on target” artillery strikes—where multiple batteries of different calibers would drop all rounds on target at the same time. Terrified the Germans. And gave them no time to get to cover, so,casualties were horrendous.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Contrary to western propaganda , the Russians are outnumbered , and have tried to minimize civilian casualties and their own losses .

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

What is “slow?” We were in Afghanistan for 20 years, how did that turn out?

Bottom line is we are in no real position to judge slow or fast because we are not privy to Russia’ prewar planning.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

Right. That’s kind of what rankles. It’s counterinsurgency pace. If the point is to decapitate (‘denazify’) and you’re dominant, why not get it over with?

Idk, I’m not expert on military strategy, and I don’t trust the info that the public gets. Add to that the West’s response to loot the treasuries and wreak economic havoc. Maybe this is a new kind of war, but it’s strange. I have the feeling much more is going on than us dirt people are seeing. Either that or tptb have truly lost their minds.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Re: decapitate/denazify. Maybe I’m getting that mixed up. Denazifying would be something like counterinsurgency, then again, the Ukrainian military is being destroyed. Mission creep, by necessity or otherwise? Maybe by gambit? Idk, I should probably go back to not paying much attention.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Its not slow going. It took the US 6 months to take out Saddam during GW1 with much better circumstances, terrain, weapons, morale, training. For a war in which they are facing equivalent tech, well trained troops and urban combat the Russians are doing incredibly well. If we were to actually think about it the Russian armed forces are terrifying to anyone not of the caliber of the US The Chechen threat to invade Poland is bluster but the truth is Poland no longer has armor, its all in Kiev or somewhere and if the US was distracted by say… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  A.B Prosper
2 years ago

Iraq took a little over a month to topple. Same with Germany vs Poland. Idk, this just feels different to me for whatever reason, and like I say I’m not an expert on these things, nor have I been paying close attention. But if you take the Russians at their word that Ukraine isn’t a real country and depends on Russia for its sovereignty… something about it isn’t adding up for me. The whole thing, from all sides, looks bizarre. Not that my opinion matters.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

The Ukraine historically was not a real country. Kiev was essentially part of Russia , the home of the Kievan Rus This war is complex but the Russian POV is pretty simple , there are pogroms against breakaway Russian speaking republics, a CIA backed color revolution when our guy was in charge and NATO right on our border. We are next therefore an invasion makes sense As for the war, Iraq War 2, yes.We had destroyed the military by than anyway. It was a mop up operation with another 10 years of weapons development If Wikipedia is correct Iraq War… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  A.B Prosper
2 years ago

Right. I’m not questioning the Russian rationale. What I’m saying is that big countries can mop up small countries if they want to. The pace of the war tells me either Russia is being hindered or there’s something else going on.

I’m willing to accept stronger-than-expected resistance because slavs, but this isn’t the mujahideen in the mountains of Afghanistan, so I’m leaning towards the latter. What that means I have no idea.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  A.B Prosper
2 years ago

Paintersforms, I respect your opinion there. I really don’t know either. My understanding is that Russia is casualty phobic do to the low fertility which plagues basically all developed nations . The Ukraine is worse than Russia in that matter but maybe the leadership sees this as existential or maybe they just don’t care about loses . The Russians OTOH don’t want to lose many men or kill that many. either Apparently Russians also aren’t good at US style blitzkrieg warfare and can’t pull off the stuff we do with no fly zones than lighting fast strikes. The tried a… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  A.B Prosper
2 years ago

That makes sense and would explain a lot. Thanks!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  A.B Prosper
2 years ago

…The Gulf War began with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 16 January 1991. For 42 consecutive days and nights…Ground war invasion then began…Cease fire declared end of February…

In round numbers, that 6 weeks, not 6 months.

JEB
JEB
2 years ago

Where are you getting your information from Z? Because it basically feels like you are just making shit up! I know that Western media isn’t reliable, but even unreliable sources will tell the truth when the truth happens to cut their way, and what the MSM has been saying about the surprising underperformance of the Russian military rings true to me. It’s clear that the Russians wanted very badly to take Kiev (which is central to the Russian nationalist narrative), made a major effort to do so, and it was a fiasco. That is not what you expect from a… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

Who knows what’s really going on, but I’ve found this guy to be pretty on point throughout the conflict. He’s obviously ex-military and has been critical at times of both the Russian and Ukrainian military. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMtuqas55jo For what it’s worth, his take is that the Russian’s initial plan was to overwhelm the Ukrainians across a large front in hopes that the Ukrainians would crumble. That didn’t happen. After that the Russians took a bit to figure out a new plan of attack, but starting around a month ago or so, settled into using their air power and massive artillery to… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Russia invaded with less than 200K troops vs 600K Ukrainians . they never planned to take keiv, i is 3-4 million and they don’t have enough soldiers to occupy a city that large , but the Ukrainians bought the head fake and sent a big chunk of their military there. The russians then destroyed their fuel and supply lines and left a portion of their troops to hold them there . and that’s where they are still trapped . the ukrainian army is collapsing as we speak .

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  miforest
2 years ago

That’s entirely possible. Or it’s possible that the Russians were hoping that a big show of force would cause the Ukrainians who, the Russians believed never wanted this fight in the first place, to lay down their arms and let the Russians roll in.

Or maybe it was a bit of both. See if the Ukrainians capitulate, if not, well, we still pinned down a huge part of their army while our main force hits the east.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

There’s any number of possibilities, but not the one JEB seems to think—“the Russians wanted very badly to take Kiev”. If the reported force approaching Kiev was ~40k, that was never going to happen. I’m thinking Ritter was right on this one—the approach was purely diversionary to keep Ukrainian troops there in place and not reinforcing other engaged units. Secondarily, the approach might have goaded Ukraine to take peace talks more seriously.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

It was a “free option”. Best case the “thunder run” worked. Worst case you fix the bulk of Ukrainian forces there, degrading ability to mount any counterattacks elsewhere. A variant of the Grant/Sherman strategy.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  miforest
2 years ago

Thank you for pointing out that the Russian forces were never adequate for and never intended to capture large chunks of Ukrainian territory. But all the media could harp on was the 40 km convoy that was out of fuel or some other silliness. It’s been indicative of just how stupid a lot of our media are but thats no surprise since many are young women who have certainly no military interest, much less service under their belt.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

“It’s clear that the Russians wanted very badly to take Kiev ”

Thanks for the laugh.

Clear to whom?

It is clear to many that the purpose of the northern tank column was to prevent the Zelinsky forces being moved from the Capital to reinforce the Donbass.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Many things are “clear” to JEB, ref his sage Covid predictions of prior postings.

JEB
JEB
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Compsci — Can you link to some of these “sage Covid predictions” that you keep bringing up every time I post something here? I don’t remember making much in the way of predictions, but maybe you can refresh my memory.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

JEB. Why yes, you continually touted the 2M Covid deaths that was predicted by false modeling and never occurred. You were emotional and panic driven. You still are. You, to date, have never acknowledged your error.

One need only look at your initial posting wrt the current Ukraine/Russia fiasco.

Really, a bad look for anyone desiring credibility—of which you have none. And you have the audacity to challenge Z-man’s take/credibility?

Insight you don’t have, but keep posting, if for nothing else comic relief.

JEB
JEB
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

“The audacity to challenge”? Really??? I have to say I do not share your reverence for Z. He has some interesting ideas, which is why I read him, but much of the time he comes across as a pontificating crank. I do admire his ability to grind out 1,200 word blog posts on a daily basis, but really, he is just one of many, many, many anonymous internet pundits, and far from the most impressive. The way you consistently interpret disagreement as “panic” is not very impressive either. Also, I didn’t really expect you to do the work required to… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

I commend your skepticism, but you are being skeptical of the wrong thing. I would (and frequently do) argue that we should be leery of ALL purported information. There is a war on. I assume* the West is being fed a very one-sided version of events, a large portion of which I would suspect as being untrue propaganda. In such a conflict, both sides have plenty of motivation to lie and damned little incentive to be truthful. *”Assume” because I follow only the barest outlines of the news, operating always under the assumption that what I’m being served is fiction,… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  JEB
2 years ago

Jeez are you still upset at not getting the republican ticket.

David
2 years ago

Peter zeihan is saying the exact opposite, that the ukranians have done exceptionally well, the russians have embarassed themselves, javelins worked great, and russians only win in the long run because of their larger population.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  David
2 years ago

“Well they were going to win anyway” might be some workable ass-covering from them, but it’s not going to sound so great to people when they go to pay their energy bills.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  David
2 years ago

Zeihan is the Malcom Gladwell of our time. He’s a mile-wide, inch-deep thinker.

He knows a little bit about a lot of things. The only area where he brings anything to the table is incorporating demographics into political thought, but even here, he’s a shallow thinker – and, naturally, a believer in the blank slate.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Agreed. I’ve never been impressed by Zeihan. He strikes me as a classic GAE-regime-bot. He has a slick presentation made with a veneer of unbending confidence. Those presentations raise a lot of questions that the forums he presents in never permit being asked.

May the days of the punditry be numbered. We need doers and builders in far greater numbers than presenters and pontificators. We’ll know the regime has changed when we are all too busy to give the Zeihans of the world a moment of time.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Zeihan writes books and gives speeches that make the reader and audience members feel like they’re really smart without having to think much.

It’s a gift, really. Gladwell had the same gift.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

I forgot about “10,000” hours Gladwell. If you want to master something you need to work really hard at it. No f’in s*&*! 10000 Hours? What about 9000? Everyone? Really? What about the talentless? What about prodigies and geniuses? What about 10000 half-assed, unengaged, unfocused hours? It is just another sign that this culture and the people who forge it is not serious. When the most banal and obvious thoughts and ideas can be proffered, packaged and sold as some incredible, sublime insight to the top 10% who repeat 10K hours like the great formula for accomplishment has been finger… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

“GAE regime-bot.”

Damn son, you nailed it.

Remind me not to waste anymore of my precious time on Zeihan interviews.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

“… a believer in the blank slate.”

Intelligence is pattern recognition capability. Stupidity is lack of pattern recognition capability. Type 1 stupidity is from an excess of mutational loading: too many suboptimal alleles results in poorly functioning hardware. Type 2 stupidity is from an excess of emotion (greed, hatred, envy, fear, arrogance, etc) that shackles the reasoning mind.

Anyone who believes in the blank slate theory (the most easily personally falsifiable notion) is stupid. Any other patterns they think they see are automatically suspect.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Horace
2 years ago

Well we should put him in charge of the Treasury then!

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Obviously he is one of the D.C.beltway crowd, at least on this issue. Whether he believes what he’s saying or is just a shill matters not; he’s still dead wrong.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
2 years ago

That is a very comprehensive, and, if accurate, devastating broadside against the West. I hope it is dead-on balls accurate, but would settle for it being 75% accurate.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

New elite sounds good to me. These people suck. If anyone halfway competent would replace them, I’d bet the turnaround would be shocking.

trackback
2 years ago

[…] ZMan turns ’em over. […]

Carl B.
Carl B.
2 years ago

“Lee Greenwood, Larry Gatlin, and Larry Stewart have all pulled out of performing at the National Rifle Association (NRA) convention in response to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, that left 19 children and two teachers dead.”

In addition, China Mitch of the GOP told his fellow Republican Senators and Congressmen to “work with the Democrats” on a new “Gun Control Bill.”

A nation of White men with no balls at all. We are finished as a country and likely as a race.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

Speak for yourself ,Carl, not our race. You don’t exemplify our finer traits.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Carl B.
2 years ago

Ain’t that a shame.

Uvalde has to have another 200+ killed to reach Chimpcongo numbers.

Yet nary a word about it.

I guess when it’s pet on pet violence it doesn’t count.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

The Germans have proved to be particularly thick headed in all of this. This may be due to the Greens winning so many seats in their last election. In the words of Obama, “elections have consequences.” In Amerika, we don’t have real elections, just the consequences. The German people themselves are as suicidal as any western country and more. They really do believe in the ESG fairy tale. The average German may indeed throw himself into Gaia’s volcano as a sacrifice to the Mother Earth God. To this day they haven’t flipped on decommissioning their nuclear reactors. Even California did… Read more »

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

JR – The Allies have been wrecking the German character & people ever since 1945; jealous of their military prowess – crushing France in 6wks, throwing England out of Europe 4x, & inflicting 3.5 million casualties on the Soviets in as many months – they set about to destroy them & their national identity by crushing the Prussian spirit as “militaristic” & throwing the Holocaust in their face every 5 minutes. Throw in a healthy dose of Western self-loathing & you get what we have now, a kind of lunk-headed recalcitrance in just about everything. That said, the Germans have… Read more »

David
Reply to  Boarwild
2 years ago

It might just be due to a surplus of women vs men influencing politics and institutions.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  David
2 years ago

David –

Yes. Former Gefechtsministerin (Defense Minister) Ursula von der Leyen oversaw the large reduction of the Bundeswehr to little more than a color guard useful for greeting foreign “dignitaries”.

The West is not serious about anything except destroying the West.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Boarwild
2 years ago

A large standing military is expensive and serves no use when everyone around you has low fertility and an aging population/

They just need a small one and a stronger border patrol.

And yes the West is not serious, again caveat immigration and maybe sustainable energy there are no problems we can solve that we need to.

We have all we need and adapting to that is proving challenging for us.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Boarwild
2 years ago

West Germany was a still formally occupied Country until WWII was finally settled by reunification after the collapse of the DDR. I think the treaty is dated 1991 but indolence prevents me checking. Forty five years is two generations of krauts raised under the boot of the yankee.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Boarwild
2 years ago

True, that all played a part, BUT…those of us on this side of the great divide know that genetics matter a lot. Dr. Dutton and others have noted that there’s evidence to suggest that one’s political leanings, left or right, is influenced by genetics. It’s entirely possible that right wing/nationalistic/alpha male genetics were simply decimated by two world wars, and many remaining ones fled to South America.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Speaking of military rocks, the latest empowered female flying an F35 off a carrier destroyed a 100 million dollar airplane. Of course, the military is going after the guys who leaked the crash to the media and not the quota hire and everyone who promoted her. The rot is deep. The collapse of standards in the Navy is striking.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

But, but I keep seeing commercials in which a black Air Force general claims that he doesn’t care who he commands — black, Hispanic, woman, man, white — they’re going to kick your ass!

How much more are we expected to take?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Good. The more pozzed AINO’s military, the less effective and more dysfunctional it will be if/when we confront it.

B125
B125
2 years ago

Our “elites” are incapable of understanding what motivates other people – and thus get Russia wrong. Some people are motivated based on duty, national pride, and unchanging moral principles (ie. religion). Our “elites” (and most Western people) are motivated based on celebrity status, sexual pleasure, feeling morally superior, the latest MSM outrage, and sassy one line Twitter comebacks. A sassy one-line burn against a devoted religious person (or scholar or military man) means nothing. Starbucks shutting down in Moscow means very little to most Russians. Russians have been poor compared to the West since forever. They aren’t going to revolt… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Does help explain the “bad intelligence” maybe. GAE probably honestly figured that with no charge card and no Star*ucks that Russia would fold in a day, because that’s what they’d do.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

Well over ten years past now, I was in my “professional student” phase towards eventual Spanish Lit degree. I knew at least one young woman (Millennial) who went into military intelligence. She was intelligent enough, but your typical idealistic young kid. I’ve known a few others (older by a few decades) in my life. These people often know only what they were taught in the University. God knows what the Feds teach them on the job, but it’s probably worse. They haven’t the slightest conception of how the real world works. I’m speaking of the 100% civilians, not someone who… Read more »

yo
yo
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

The first thing to shut down was McDonalds. The McDonalds’ closing was plastered in every media outlet as if the water supply to Russia was being cut off. They simply could not fathom a scenario that the Russians could live happily without fast food.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  yo
2 years ago

McHutu’s shutting down will increase average Russian life expectancy by four years.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

“McHutu” literally made me LOL. Great stuff.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  yo
2 years ago

Without our fast food really. Anyone can cook a burger after all.

Ponsonby
Member
2 years ago

Wasn’t it Thomas Friedman or John McCain who first called Russia “a gas station masquerading as a country”? Could have easily been either. Anyway, I’d say one of the big things revealed quite plainly under the rock of war is that the US has become a Gender Studies Department masquerading as a country. At least in Russia they have gas.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

I’m guessing that anyone that derisively calls Russia a gas station never has to use a gas station.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

It turns out that another way to put that is: “Russia’s economy is based on selling critical commodities that people cannot do without to the world, rather than being based on selling them iPhone apps, superhero movies, and incomprehensible Jewish financial instruments out of Wall Street.”

Turns out that economies based on something real are way more stable than our elites thought.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

Russia is a gas station run by a mafia masquerading as a country. John McCain This reveals the degree to which ‘conservative’ crony corporatists have internalized leftist thought patterns. It is pure projection. There have been Rus for more than a millennium. They have scientific and cultural traditions (art, literature and music) that long predate our founding. The ugly truth is that current-year America is an corrupt imperial open-borders crony-corporate trade zone masquerading as a country. The natural process of our melding into a real country was short circuited by the the 1965 Hart-Cellars Act and the capture and subversion… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Horace
2 years ago

We’re an israeliprison plantation, pretending to be a country.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

Typical American arrogance and ignorance. Russia has a history and a culture almost 1,200 years old. America lasted 244 years before devolving into the obscene Empire of Perversion in which we now dwell.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

244 is generous. Many, with some justification, pin its death around 95 years old. The rest has just been the corpse twitching by having diversity’s axe embedded in its nervous system.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ponsonby
2 years ago

If we look at GDP in terms of PPP (purchasing power parity), Russia is essentially a Top 5 economy, within spitting distance of German and Japan, which are both pipsqueaks in terms of available natural resources.

India is buying so much Russian oil they’ve delayed maintenance on at least one major refinery to process the increased input.

usNthem
usNthem
2 years ago

I think that what has been exposed over the last few years in particular is how toothless (well not totally), incompetent and pathetic our paper tiger leadership has become. Not only internationally but domestically. The AINO cabal has been running the show and bossing the world (mostly the third) around for so long, they have just been assuming it’ll last forever, and whatever they say, goes. They can’t see what a laughingstock they and US, by extension have become. Sure, we can bomb the piss out of places, but who can actually take this place seriously anymore? To wit: the… Read more »

BellCarolExpert
BellCarolExpert
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

There is a weird progressive (read; hyperliberal) compulsion to dissolve all social roles into one mushy melange. They conduct this crusade with government jobs because that’s the easiest place to start. Being a cop is obviously different from a garbageman is different from a postal worker — but the great grinding down of useful vocational distinctions doesn’t leave you a society that is easy to manage, except maybe by the financialized/Wall St definition of “manage”

Melissa
Melissa
2 years ago

So many lies exposed. All we can do is hope that more people will finally come to the realization that it’s been crumbling for a while. It’s increasingly becoming impossible not to notice.
There are more rocks to be overturned and many snakes hiding underneath.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

The snake is too high of a lifeform. Think slugs instead.

My Comment
Member
2 years ago

I have found the war to present a vivid contrast between the communication styles and thinking ability of the Russians (and Chinese) and the US government, its vassal state leaders and the cabal that runs the EU. Putin, Lavrov, and Medvedev come across as thoughtful, articulate leaders who can see the big picture and clearly communicate how the parts fit into it. They also are very patriarchal. Then there is the sad lot representing the US, EU and our vassal states. Yow. There is no one among them capable of going one on one in a debate with the Russians… Read more »

My Comment
Member
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

The moment I find that best captures the difference is Blinken channeling Taylor Swift and her song We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together in regards to the relationship with the other great nuclear power.

I just can’t see Putin, Lavrov or medvedev taking that approach.

Russia has to win in its geopolitical challenges. The US side’s leaders have no skin in the game. No matter how they mess things up they will be OK

KGB
KGB
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

Likely inspired by John Kerry bringing James Taylor to Paris in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack, so that America could tell France “You’ve Got A Friend”. It reminds me of a few years ago, when my company rolled out a new product that would be made at our facility. They brought in a handful of social media drones from corporate to give the guys on the floor a rah-rah talk. They gave a presentation featuring the TV commercial that would be airing, then moved on to the hashtags they tried to make trend, and how many “impressions” their… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

Like Pat B says (about the US) – an unserious people in a serious time.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

Medvedev’s current Pro-Russia hawkishness has been an enormous surprise. I had thought he was a pretty dyed in the wool Atlanticist based on his trial run as Russian president a decade ago.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

A decade of the West pissing on their faces at every diplomatic juncture will do that.

yo
yo
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

https://voxday.net/2022/05/27/unrestricted-war-on-russia/ Russia is quite aware that this fight is for all the marbles: One of their foreign ministers: “The challenge Russia is facing has no equivalents in our history. It’s not just that we have neither allies nor even potential partners left in the West. Frequent comparisons with the Cold War of the mid and late 20th century are inaccurate and rather disorienting. In terms of globalization and new technology, the modern form of confrontation is not only of a larger scale than the previous one, it is also much more intense. Ultimately, the main field of the ongoing battle… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  yo
2 years ago

No more talk of “our partners”. That shit is entirely over; the Russians are launching off into their own trajectory, and so far as I have been able to see, with the nearly total acquiesence of their populace. The Big Brains in the US, and to perhaps a slightly lesser degree in Their poodles, are driving other nations to choose sides, and not to Their advantage. That this course of action is not to the benefit of us, the Dirts, goes without saying, because our benefit matters not a whit to the Big Brains, and for decades has not. Brace… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

“Three months into the conflict and the Russians are on the cusp of victory.”

The Russians have been on the cusp of victory for almost 3 months. It doesn’t matter how long it takes AINO or the EU to admit they won. It only matters how long before the Ukranians do.

“Their (neocons) seething hatred for the Russian people has blinded them to many things.”

I wonder if they hate the Russian people any more than they hate the people that live in their own country. Probably not.

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

They hate everyone who isn’t them.

Steveaz
Steveaz
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

Texas equals Russia now. Washington DC is at war with both of them.

They are just different fronts in the same global war.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Steveaz
2 years ago

Steveaz: I wish the mythos of Texas as full of strong and independent White people would finally die – because it is blatantly untrue. Half of Texas is non-White. Most of the southern part of the state might as well be Mexico – and that most definitely includes Uvalde. Almost every last person there is a magic-dirt ‘murrican. And leaving aside the incompetence of police in general, what Uvalde demonstrated is that where there are Mexicans, there is Mexico. The corruption, the disorganization, the lack of personal resolve, the lack of consequences. The Border Patrol is majority Mexican. The schools… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

” If DC is ‘at war with Texas,’ then I hope both lose.”

Brilliant.

There are a handful of freaking Northeastern states with more balls than Texas.* Basically every Appalachian state is more based than the Lone Star state, admittedly a low bar.

*There are diminishing pockets of West Texas and the bayou north of Houston that kind of retain traces of the false stereotype.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Jack Dobson: There are pockets of decent people almost everywhere, but they are shrinking and – unfortunately and importantly – isolated from one another. There are also slimy politicians in every state. But everywhere in the media I encounter this fantasy of Texas the way it was portrayed in a movie I saw in school in the 70s about Texas quirky millionaires like Nelson Hunt, and that’s just not reality now if it ever really was. Considering not just income taxes and property taxes, but building costs, various vehicle and other licenses and fees, etc., Texas is not nearly as… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

well, we tried voting for someone other than Abbott in the primaries. Huffines at least talked the talk. And he wasn’t Abbott.

The only thing going for Abbott, Cornyn and Cruz is they run against Betas. I wonder how much the contributed to Beta’s campaign?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

c matt: Why I am so vocally opposed to the “vote local” crowd. I repeat, demographics always win. Voting in a rigged system always loses.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Excellent post. You raise some insightful aspects. Now, with the understanding that I have some familiarity with Mexico, it’s limited to a total of six trips done in the 2000s. I’ve seen the real Mexico, quite a selection of it. That said, I’ve had very limited contact with any Latinos in the USA, whether they were immigrant or native-born. That’s doubly true for the Southwest, which I’ve only passed through on my trips. That said, you implicitly raise a curious point: To a large degree your claim “Where there are Mexicans, there is Mexico” rings true. However, what is abnormal… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

Ben: Whether or not some Mestizos might adapt better to the traditional US system than others (which might well be true) is, to be honest, irrelevant to me. But your observation is accurate. The entire keystone cop episode (teacher who propped the school door open – to take a smoke break? – the resource officer who wasn’t wanted there because so many of the kids were illegals – the macho posturing yet lack of action by the cops – it all reeks of actors in structure and system utterly alien and unnatural for them.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Then there is the issue of Texas as a police state.

Conservatives built Texas as a huge prison-enforcement institution.

It is only a matter of time before that monster gets turned against white people as the demographics decay further

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

@3g: This has been true since the Seventies. When I would visit relatives there as a kid, I was struck at how pozzed it was (pozzed wasn’t a word but fit). The pop/cult magic has kept the false image alive for at least fifty and more like sixty years. As an aside, and this isn’t good from a dissident perspective, but it is very funny, what has turned the Mexicans off of the Left has been the Haitians streaming across the border. Even among Third Worlders, they are considered a cancer. So contra the Karl Rovian “we need to open… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Jack Dobson: Yet there are Haitians in almost every country on Earth. One always reads about hunger and poverty in Haiti and Ethiopia etc., but their populations continue to increase in exponential fashion due to local proclivities and White food and money. If there truly is a world-wide ‘famine,’ it will be long overdue.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

As I’ve posted before, I live in an Hispanic County and metropolitan area. Nothing terrible to say about the neighbors, but 3g4me is right on the money. The political situation when Hispanics vote their race is headed for the toilet. That’s what is so surprising to me in that Texas has lasted this long. The political class here is abysmally incompetent. If it wasn’t for worse areas (like CA) sending refugee Whites, this State would be a definite Blue and in fiscal deficit.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Thanks for bringing up the Europeans. No matter how this plays out, the Europeans will definitely come out as big losers, possibly the biggest loser. And thank goodness. They’ve been a pampered wife for at least the last 30 years. The Americans provided their security, security that they didn’t even need but were more than happy to allow the Americans to pay for. They got cheap energy from Russia to prop up their manufacturing and living standards. They even got to sell to their supposed dangerous neighbor. Basically, they were a wife who didn’t work and had a boyfriend on… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

This is outstanding insight and writing. It makes a seminal point about the current dilemma using an analogy that everyone can relate to. It is the essence of useful wisdom that propagates readily into mainstream awareness and may therefore can have an impact on group behavior. Most of what passes for erudite commentary in the national media is obtuse, convoluted nonsense that is a waste of time to read. We need more concise and easy absorbed wisdom nuggets.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

They’ve been a battered wife for at least the last 30 years

tftfy

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
2 years ago

From what I heard online, the reason the rockets like the NLAW and the Javelin are failing is because they sat around in warehouses for years and years and the the battery packs are no good anymore. Something rings false in that to me – I have seen them fail to kill the target several times now in the vids coming from the conflict – even when they make seemingly good hits. Something more is at work here. According to the hype, not a tank should be rolling in the area because they should all have been reduced to smoking… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The one analysis on the Javelin I saw from an ex-military, was the greatly reduced hit performance if the tanks were in motion. As to the Stinger and its follow on, Russian pilots are flying close to the ground, which make deployment, aim, and firing highly difficult.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

Glen-

The battery angle is real. Battery maintenance is a critical duty when storing these weapons. It is also one of the most boring, onerous duties.

Thus, it is difficult to find anyone that wants to do battery maintenance, much less anyone that does it well.

There are PDFs floating around that show the epic scale of US military battery maintenance operations.

Here is just one of many websites that describes the Goldilocks approach that should be taken when storing rechargeable batteries:

https://www.call2recycle.org/consumer-safety-tips/

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

do ICBMs have batteries? 😛

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

No, but they used to use liquid fuels, and that made batteries seem easy. I believe we had a huge blowout way back when in a Arkansas Titian silo due to a dropped wrench, Now everything is solid propellant.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Those aren’t without risk either. Thiokol lost an entire factory many years ago. Also I seem to recall at least one incident where technician(s) were turned to beef jerky when a solid fueled rocket lit off unexpectedly in its silo. (Those are just from reading media over the years — no industry knowledge at all.)

All the same, I too would rather be around a solid fuel rocket than volatile fuels mixed with liquid oxygen…

BTW, a fun “redneck science” video to watch (e.g. Youtube) is when someone uses LOX to get a charcoal grill started 😀

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: Are the batteries in US mil equipment essentially the same as those sold in the consumer market, albeit a more robust/hardened version? I don’t know how much more robust a rechargeable battery can truly be made. Some YT videos claim solar panels can handle a lot of weather before degrading, but batteries/generators need to be kept from cold, heat, and moisture. Merely building a basic wooden battery house doesn’t cut it – there needs to be a great deal of insulation and ventilation. I’m sure today’s diverse army is just as diligent in storage and maintenance as the… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

But… with respect… the Javelin is basically a “point and shoot, fire and forget” weapon. That is one of its selling points – it’s so simple to use, even black thugs like George Floyd or Cornelius Rye could use it. You aim it, arm it, the device acquires the target and acknowledges the lock, you press the trigger…and your job is done. (I don’t know about the NLAWs). I think I’ve seen about half a dozen instances where they did all that… but for whatever reason they failed to make the kill. I wonder if the explosive compounds deteriorate over… Read more »

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

Russia builds countermeasures into their tanks. and they test them extensively against similar warheads . They understand what they are liable to be facing which apparently we don’t . Now subject to supply lines, parts and of course canned sunshine, the US can beat Russia in a fight but from what I can tell the Russians are actually very good and the Ukrainian op was fast, low casualty and appears to be accomplishing the goals of the SMO That is impressive. Trith is the US is not up for a war as we lack the ability to replenish stores and… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

3g4me- Excellent question! In my corner of the world, I feel I’ve seen a clear dichotomy in military batteries. 1) Batteries that are quite close to standard, off-the-shelf, consumer products for vehicles and devices. You can see this in this US Army vehicle battery maintenance PDF I found: https://pdf4pro.com/view/the-u-s-army-battery-maintenance-management-45c688.html 2) More customization than you can shake a stick at, which is what tends to happen in compact, complex products like the Javelin and Stinger. The cell chemistry and physical layout will be custom. Multiple cells packaged into a battery will have a custom form factor. The package will include custom… Read more »

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

I qualified on the TOW and TOW 2 and while those aren’t high tech by today’s standards, they were still a fairly complicated weapon. And fragile. And sometimes a total POS. They also required extensive training and I am sure the Javelin is the same.

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

This is precisely the calibre of commentary i expect in the average Atlantic or NYT comment thread.

Do I even need to put the /s?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

I’ve never serviced weapons, but I do know a thing or two about consumer electronics. I would speculate that the very last pace you would ever see a rechargeable cell would be a disposable military weapon. No, it would likely be a dry cell, probably lithium, (mercury in old days), or perhaps something else with a very long shelf life. No rechargeable I’ve ever read of had anything close to lithium or alkaline in terms of charge held or shelf life holding that charge. I do know from first hand experience in the military four decades ago, in a much… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

And we’re going to be running our entire superpower economy on these in 8 years, right?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

Forgot to mention that the Patriot is no great shakes either:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/

Earlier this year Houthi air attacks damaged enough oil facilities near Jeddah that the Saudis and F1 were seriously considering cancelling the Grand Prix there:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/25/saudi-arabian-grand-prix-at-risk-of-cancellation-after-houthi-missile-attack

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

i have read that the russian tanks have a kind of armor that is resistant to the javelin.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Yeah but the new Gen 4 stuff is going on the new T14s and they are having problems with the product roll out…so I’ve heard, anyways…

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

May I turn over a rock right here in our own backyard? During the shooting rampage in Uvalde where a deranged “trans” “immigrant” ruthlessly gunned down innocents in an elementary school, and in an almost exact repeat of the Columbine disaster and elsewhere, LEOs stood down for nearly an hour and hid outside while the murdering continued inside the school. What does this say about the quality of people in law enforcement? How much lower can you go as a declining society when supposedly honorable men cower behind brick walls while children are being slaughtered? Worse yet, these same “brave”… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

On the plus side this means that the police aren’t really much of a threat to any non-voting means of enacting political reform.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

evidently, the cops ran in and got their own kids out, before keeping the other parents at bay.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Reference for this accusation? There is none. A report is that a mother ran in and got *her* kids out. No police to my knowledge had family there, much less took them out in leu of other children.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

the local tv channel 5 reported it. snopes has an item about it. might be true, might not be.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

i saw an interview right after the incdent and a LEO confirmed both of these my gell manner friend

GunnerQ
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

“LEOs stood down for nearly an hour and hid outside while the murdering continued inside the school. What does this say about the quality of people in law enforcement?” Pretty good, actually. From what I’ve pieced together, Tranny shooter killed a classroom’s worth of kids then barricaded himself in it. He wasn’t being a threat to any additional children so police formed a perimeter and held for specialist units to arrive. If I’m correct then they acted with considerable restraint, given the hysteria of those soccer moms. A critical part of emergency response is overcoming the “don’t just stand there,… Read more »

miforest
miforest
Reply to  GunnerQ
2 years ago

not true , 5 of the kids hid under a table with a long tablecloth and survived . on child hidden elsewhere in the room answered a shout out by police and was killed. there liver were greatly endangered by the unspeakably slow response

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

I’ve seen credible (to me) reports that the local police force reflects the local community: Mexican. I’ve seen a picture with 7 recognizable hispanics out of a total of 7 officers shown.

Steveaz
Steveaz
2 years ago

I’ve been saying for 5 years that California needs a bailout. The Ukraine war is that bailout.

Every Raytheon product purchased with taxpayer momey for this war puts a couple thousand dollars into Newsom’s slush fund. Before Biden launched his Ukraine campaign California was broke. Now it is projecting a ‘surplus.’

I stand by my prediction: this war was ginned up for a host of unspeakable reasons. One was to bailout Newsom’s treasury, and ensure that CA stays blue.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Steveaz
2 years ago

I’d think money to Lockheed would be of more benefit to California since they have a lot of facilities there.

Raytheon HQ is in Massachusetts and the facility that builds the Javelin is in Arizona.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Steveaz
2 years ago

Get ready for “Marshal Plan V 2.0” to “rebuild” Ukraine.

It’s going to be a trillion dollar decade plus slush fund. The grift and the theft will be EPIC.

This time, there won’t be a George C Marshall managing it. I don’t think men of that caliber are around anymore. At least not in the US.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

nah brah, ukraine is yesterday’s papers. finland is the new/next ukraine.

NateG
NateG
2 years ago

Watching the snarky, passive-aggressive Zelensky government reminds me of a hysterical woman on her monthly. The U.S and NATO need to start acting like the adults in the room but they can’t because they’re pretty much on the same level. A small group of people who vehemently hate Russia are not just determined to fight to the last Ukrainian, but foolishly will drag the whole world down with them.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 years ago

I think Herodotus said that war is the father of all things. In particular it exposes weaknesses and failings that had hitherto remained camouflaged. This Ukraine conflict is highlighting how weak and hollowed-out the Collective West has become. Economically. Militarily. Intellectually. And by implication socially and culturally. The rest of the world is scrutinizing this carefully and adjusting its posture towards the West accordingly.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

One reason I studied military history in college. You learn more through the lens of a nations “war machine” than any other. One of the best “starter books” is Weigley’s “American Way of War”. Some the analysis is flawed and there are subsequent historians like Brian Linn that have filled those gaps. But you can clearly see the drift from course over my lifetime that got us into fiascos like Afghanistan.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

You mean there might be the smallest candle-flicker of hope…

That Bollywood will give up its appalling Indian gangsta rap videos?

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

> The rest of the world is scrutinizing this carefully and adjusting its posture towards the West accordingly.

This! Exactly. It is why I was so adamant that the west would never let the Ukraine situation escalate to the point of Russia invading. They CANNOT risk allowing the facade of military and economic invincibility drop one bit.

I thought peace, prosperity, and global domination was worth too much to risk over some dirt-world money laundering outfit off the Black Sea coast, but I underestimated just how deranged our rulers truly are.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Mr. Generic
2 years ago

“They CANNOT risk allowing the facade of military and economic invincibility drop one bit.”

Rule #1: Don’t get high on your own supply (taken from the film “Scarface”). That’s exactly what Western “leaders” did — they fell for their own propaganda.

But then again, history tells us this kind of hubris is not unique. Happens again and again. The 30-years war (1914-1945) revealed how hollow the British and French colonial empires were. Pax Britannica was effectively over by 1919.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 years ago

“Like trust fund babies raised in insular opulence, Western leaders are unprepared for a world where they have to perform their role as elites. The war is exposing them as a toxic blend of self-indulgence, stupidity and ignorance.”

I think Ken Wark has said more than once that the US elite is the most under-performing elite in world history. In the words of Gordon Gekko, if these bozos opened a funeral parlor, no-one would die.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
2 years ago

Its hard to find solid information on the war, I read the Sakers site but he’s clearly too pro Russian to admit any failure or mistake by Moscow. but the Western media is far worse, the war was about 2 weeks old when they started saying the Russian army was low on food and weapons, 3 months later the Russians are still fighting and the BS in the MSM continues. a while back Zalenskyy admitted he was losing 50 to 100 men a day (I wonder what the real number is) at that rate at some point the Ukrainian army… Read more »

Anna
Anna
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I speak to my classmate in Kharkov couple of times a week and she does not know what is really happening. She can only tell me how many explosions she heard that day. Of course all Russian stations were shut down even before the war and she knows better than to trust the Ukrainian official sources.
Finding a reliable info is as hard as in the Soviet Union.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  Anna
2 years ago

I came to rely on Russian language Free Press (svprees.ru). Today they reported that monkeypox originated in Nigeria which has several biolabs.
FWIW.

DW
DW
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

Try telegram Intel zlava or use the search function. For updates on the front try youtube channel defense politics asia.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
2 years ago

Why am I suddenly thinking of the scene with Dr. Evil revealing that he will demand One. Million. Dollars.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Even one billion sounds trite now.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
2 years ago

Jared Taylor always takes a lot of stick from the “muh free market” types when he points out that communist and socialist countries didn’t succumb to the cultural and migrational decay that the supposedly free societies did. Lots of Westerners (and even those in the Eastern Bloc) sneered at the idea that the walls and checkpoints were there to protect the East from the decadent swine of the West, but there might be some truth to it. Coca-Cola is the ultimate Western product, sugary as apple pie but much easier to consume in compact measurable units, and even though they… Read more »

Heartlander
Heartlander
Reply to  Joey Jünger
2 years ago

In Oliver Stone’s “The Putin Interviews,” I noted several scenes in which a bottle of Coca-Cola is sitting on the side of the table occupied by Stone and his western crewmen, while all you ever see on Putin’s side of the table is… bottled water. I’ve watched hours and hours of video of that man, and with the one exception of buying an ice cream cone for a visiting foreign leader (what is it with politicians and ice cream cones?), I have never seen that man consume a single bite of junk food. People think Putin’s macho outdoor activities were… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 years ago

One of the strangest aspects of the Ukraine war is Ukraine’s complete and utter inability to produce any sort of effective counteroffensive. The only time Ukraine had regained control of large portions of land is when the Russians decided to withdraw their troops to focus elsewhere, not because of any pressure from Ukrainian forces. In any aspect of human competition, whether it is business, sports, or war, the agent sitting back on its heels reacting to his adversary’s moves is at a huge disadvantage. It gives credence to the thought that Western leaders really don’t know how to react when… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Your definition of counter-offensive is so 2021. Zelensky has gone on how many United States award shows now? WINNING.

(This is not even total sarcasm)

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

The cloud people are 100% sure the Russians are getting the asses kicked, every day for 3 months now. what happens in the end, will they just ignore the real world results ?

I having beers with a good friend on Saturday, he’s a good lad, but a total normie, I can’t wait to get his opinion on the war in the Ukraine

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

Gellman-Amnesia is a real thing. At some point it won’t be, but I doubt the torrent of lies about this war will cause the United States government to be toppled.* There was a great deal of backlash about the $54 billion, to be fair, because it was obviously stolen by TPTB, but that was quickly forgotten.

*This assumes the Great Depression Boogaloo doesn’t happen, which may be wrong.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

The latest $40B was just a funding bill for the deep state.
Far more of it will end up in Northern Virginia than east of the Danube.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

Trump was (and is) literally Hitler for going on 6 years.
Everyone has died from Covid.
Black people would build Wakanda, but can’t because of racism.
The Jab is safe and effective.
$5.00 gasoline is because of Russia.

Like the stock market staying irrational longer than you can stay liquid, it is pretty clear that a large portion of our neighbors are NOT waking up.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Mow Noname
2 years ago

trump got promoted to Ultra-Hitler!

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

from what i have read, any time the ukes come out of a defensive crouch, and mass out in the open, they get slaughtered.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

It appears that the Russian, “retreats,” were mostly tactical withdrawals intended to bait the Uke forces into revealing themselves and extending their figurative necks to get them chopped by the Russian executioners.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

And even I, the news-free cynic, learned on this very blog a few days ago, that what you describe is classic Russian strategy going back centuries 😀 And damned effective, I surmise.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

It shows what dominating the air space can accomplish.
Russia, with it’s missiles and other air power needs to create just enough doubt in the minds of those who want to launch a counter offensive. [But really, the Russians largely have their back to the Kiev “front”, I would think that any sort of exerted effort could relive their trapped forces. But then again, maybe not.]

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

> One of the strangest aspects of the Ukraine war is Ukraine’s complete and utter inability to produce any sort of effective counteroffensive.

Dude, you can’t launch ANY kind of a counteroffensive when your opponent has air supremacy. You would get SLAUGHTERED!

Honestly, I think Ukraine’s “strategy” of “dig in and pray for NATO” is probably their best option.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mr. Generic
2 years ago

When your best option is relying on the US, you are fubarred.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Not unexpected. Ukrainian are less capable than the people surrounding them and ruling over them. Thus a historic hatred of Poles, Russians and of course Jews.
And to round up the picture: they are good at singing and dancing.

Rhodok
2 years ago

Indeed, the economic war turned out to be a huge self-inflicted wound, not unlike amputating your own leg by mistake.

Turns out an economy based on building real things, with real labor and real capital beats an economy based on hot air after all…

And no matter how much they try, they cannot put Humpty Dumpty together again.

Seems likely to me that this SMO marks the high water mark of the hegemony of the west.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
2 years ago

Western leadership issue: “…unprepared for a world where they have to perform their role as elites. The war is exposing them as a toxic blend of self-indulgence, stupidity and ignorance”…

Western leadership response:
Look over there! Covid, no wait…Monkey Pox.
Behind that tree! White nationalist, nazi lovin’, gun toters.
Under the bed! Gay haters
Over there! It’s climate change. Give us more money.
Only D.I.E. can save us now.

manc
manc
2 years ago

The great walkback has begun; Kissinger earlier this week said the Ukraine will have to give up territory and now the Washington Post is admitting the Ukrainian army east of the Dnieper is about to get destroyed.

So what’s the next big freakout? Covid II: The Coviding flopped and its spinoff Monkeypox isn’t getting traction. My money’s on a meteor.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Do you think once they take over the Donbass and landlock Ukraine whether they’ll fortify and declare victory with their newly acquired territory, or go for broke and keep pushing to get assurance of a fully neutral Ukraine?

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

it really seems like russia has done a deal with poland, to hand over western ukraine to them. this would focus ukrainian nationalism towards poland, and away from russia. does this prevent nato from staging arms in what was western ukraine? no, but the threat of those sites where nato arms are located getting missled does.

manc
manc
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I would laugh my ass off if the Russians recreated Catherine the Great’s province of New Russia in the Donbass region with a distant relation of Gregory Potemkin on the throne.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Neutral Ukraine is the big sticking point. Once the operations in the East get wrapped up, the Russians will push for this. If the West refuses, which they likely will, things will get serious. The Russians will need to decide whether they 1) use military force to invade the rest of Ukraine – a seriously large operation; 2) put the big squeeze on Europe by cutting off their gas – though this might be too late as the Europeans have been filling their storage facilities in preparation; or 3) hold off for now and push for a color revolution. It’ll… Read more »

Horace
Horace
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

@manc

One of any new polities formed by the Russians, whether provisionally independent or incorporated into the RF, should be labeled the “Cossack Hetmanate” just to troll the specials who started this war.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Odessa, etc. would be worth a trade to the west for peace. The west would get to show that they forced some capitulation on Russia, while Russia gives up territory that would have been hard to hold onto long-term anyway.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

Maybe, I think a land locked Ukraine would be a win for the Russians, it makes control of the Black sea easier, even what they hold now is a win, its some of the best land in the world, and they have taken a big bite

The longer the war goes on, I see Putin giving back less in any negotiation, the question is, when does that penny drop for the Ukrainian nationalists

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

No, Odessa’s fate is sealed.
1) Whatever is left of “Ukraine” needs to be landlocked to make their position henceforth absolutely clear.
2) A link up to Transnistria needs to happen. Moldova and Romania need to have The Bear glaring at them from across a border to reinforce who rules the roost going forward.
3) Odessa needs to feel the knout for what happened in the massacre at the Union of Trades hall a few years back. President Putin has staked out a position that this atrocity is among those for which there will be retribution, and Odessa must pay.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

i think their backs are against the wall, with all the myriad fukkups they’ve made, so they go all in and declare the GOP a threat to the nation, and start rounding them up and shooting them. this of course would be accompanied by martial law nationwide. sound extreme? wait a few more months. you can see the seeds of this plan already being planted, with attempts to get GOP candidates banned from running etc. instead of asking if this is likely, or possible, ask “who is going to stop them?”…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Yeah, they will make war on Americans, and no doubt with the same valor and confidence as the Ulvade cops and the troops running like little bitches out of Afghanistan. No doubt Uncle Lloyd is meeting now with Raytheon and Co. to discuss what weapons will be needed to put the boot to the insurrectionists, White nationalists, and independent book store owners. It may even pay more than $54 billion.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

The Democrat Party working for the American people, at last!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I’d say that the West is sticky with the old narrative, just tweaking it a bit. To them, the plucky Ukrainians are still putting up a great fight but being overwhelmed by the huge Russian army, which while completely incompetent and running out of everything, still have a massive numerical advantage. (Yeah, yeah, I know that Russia is operating with a shockingly small force, but whoever let facts get in the way of a good narrative.) In essence, in their minds, the Russians are winning by sheer numbers. If you listen to the Americans, the Russians are running out of… Read more »

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

On Fox’s Jesse Watters show the other day with one of those other slick-haired guys who I mix up all the time subbing for Watters, they had some guy peddling a book about Patton. The subtext of the conversation was a comparison between Zelenskyyy and the legendary US General.

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

They are starting to craft the narrative of the heroic defeat, a defeat so heroic it is in in fact a victory.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Dirtnapninja
2 years ago

Since when did they become American southerners?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

So far the West has not come up with a new narrative for after the fall of Donbas.

Look, a school shooting!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  manc
2 years ago

Anne Applebaum is quite upset about this and demands we fight to the last goy. Has there ever been a more incompetent, moronic and consistently wrong bunch of fools than America’s self-proclaimed elites? Hey, Anne, in case you have forgotten, it is a grift. Or are you wanting a cut before the next carnival starts?

This one was and is serious due to the nuclear war angle. Maybe we can marginalize and possibly force these idiotic monsters out of the country this time if they don’t get us nuked?

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

IMO the risk of nuclear conflict has been greatly diminished by Russia’s unalloyed success with conventional arms – as well as weathering the economic sanctions nicely.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Yep. Russians also have been focused and shown great restraint and determination. The contrast with the West could not be greater. You are right about the economic brinkmanship, but when you look at the state of the Western economies it is no shock the people who came up with MMT would fuck up sanctions, too. Here in the USA, we have the spectacle of financial titans begging the Fed to stop increasing the interest rate because the hikes already have worked! These morons cannot thrive without a free money teat and we are all going to be much poorer as… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

> Anne Applebaum is quite upset about this and demands we fight to the last goy.

You first Anne.

Anyone who insists a foreign country they could not point to on a map a couple months ago should sacrifice hundreds of thousands of people to a futile war meat-grinder is a complete psychopath.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

It it weren’t for genocidal psychopaths The Atlantic would not have an editorial staff.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

The most dangerous people are those who come to believe their grift is virtuous.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Jack –

The globe has the worst “elites” since 1914.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  manc
2 years ago

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Get with the program.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Perhaps some day there will be a pogrom instead, that addresses the root cause of many problems 😎

Ah, it’s nice to daydream…