Ideological Capture

Image that you are a management type and you get hired into the third tier of management at a good sized firm. The top tier is the executive staff like the CFO and CEO who control the overall direction of the firm. The second tier is the policy making tier, like vice presidents and regional directors. They take the vision of the top tier and turn into company policy. The tier into which you have been hired is tasked with implementing and enforcing these company policies.

Further, let us assume you are an enthusiastic follower of a management style that is called “management by committee.” You think the best way to run any organization is through committees that debate amongst themselves and then create reports that some other committee turns into directives. Your new job is in a company that is still in growth mode, so they are not burdened with management philosophy. The third tier is just supposed to get the job done.

Soon into your new job you find other fans of the MBC school and you form a clique within the company. None of your bosses are MBC types, but they are not hostile to your ideas, just as long as the job gets done. One of the ideas you talk them into is having managers in the third tier incorporated into the hiring process. Candidates for management jobs will sit before a committee of middle managers who will then pass on their assessment to the people making the hire.

You are a committee guy so you make sure to be on this committee and you get your buddies in the committee subculture on the committee as well. This is exactly the sort of innovation you have been seeking. The “promise” of this new step is that people hired in will fit the general culture. As a practical matter, it means the committee will select for people who like committees. It does not take long before adherence to the management by committee philosophy is a selection criterion.

Since there is a decent amount of turnover in the middle and lower management ranks, it does not take too long before most managers are committee men. This new selection process, controlled by committee men, selects for committee men or the type who could be groomed into committee men. A big part of the management by committee philosophy is grooming normal people into the committee lifestyle. Being a committee man is a de facto requirement for employment.

The second tier of management has far less turnover than the third and fourth tier, as these are important posts that pay exceptionally well. By their very nature there are few of these jobs in any company, so there is not a lot of circulation, but from time to time a spot does open in this layer. Ideally, the executive layer selects from the third tier of managers to fill these roles. Presumably, these are people who know company culture and have been vetted through trial and error.

Because you and your fellow committee men have been selecting for committee men in the ranks of management, the options for the executive staff when it comes time to fill a vice president slot is all committee men. The management by walking around guy who ran the West Coast division retires and there is no one like him to bump up into his position, because that type does not exist on the bench. That means hiring from outside or elevating a committee man into the second tier.

The executive staff of the company is now faced with a crisis. While they were busy with setting the general direction of the company, they have been infested with a new management style that now limits their range of motion. If they want to change the company culture, say reduce the number of meetings and standing committees, it means making wholesale changes in the ranks. Alternatively, it means finding a way to make this new management paradigm work.

Now, if instead of starting point being a middle manager from a management cult it is a homosexual priest, a climate change crank or a neoconservative. The homosexual priest gets into the ranks and starts to agitate for his people and before long you have a lot of homosexual priests. This is how climate change cranks have infested the ranks of energy and environment to the point where they control these areas in the managerial class, publicly and privately.

The neocons are front and center at the moment and they are the most obvious example of this process. Over time they have infiltrated every nook and cranny of the foreign policy establishment. When the Democrat president takes over for a Republican, the neocons who infest Republican ranks move out to think tanks, while the neocons who infest Democratic ranks take their positions in government. When the parties swap again, the neocons swap again.

If like the executive management of the hypothetical company, you are the new president with a rational vision for foreign policy, you will be faced with the problem of finding anyone who is not neocons. Everyone with any experience in the State Department, foreign service or national security is going to be a member of the bizarre cult that has taken over these fields. Before you could do anything, it means a revolution within these areas of government.

Something similar is happening with energy. Putting together a rational energy policy is impossible because everyone in that sector is now committed to the “green agenda” which embraces irrational energy policies. Notice that the response to the war in Ukraine is a series of policies that harm normal people in the West by furthering the agenda of the environmental movement. The war in Ukraine has given license to the people making war on climate change.

This is why elections are now meaningless. So meaningless, in fact, that they will slowly go away entirely. The ruler of Italy, for example, was not elected. He was installed by Brussels, which is not elected either. The response to Russia is being crafted in Brussels, not the capitals of Europe. Closer to home, elections are now just an orgy of absurd corruption like ballot harvesting, mail in voting and so on. Why try to convince people when you can just make up the results?

The collapse of elections is just a reflection of reality. You can vote yourself bloody, but the people holding office are faced with the same dilemma as the executive managers in the above example. They must fill their staff from the pool of true believers that exist in the Washington policy establishment. They are set upon by true believers from think tanks and lobbying firms, who actually write the legislation. They are swimmers trying to change the direction of the ocean.

What we are witnessing is ideological capture. This is where a small, but committed group can wield majority power, as long as the majority is divided into smaller groups or not bound by an alternative ideology. The homosexuals could infiltrate the priesthood because the Church was not explicitly anti-homosexual. The normal priest worried about the issue would be outnumbered by the pink mafia and have no internal structure on which to rely for support in the fight.

The priest problem is good example of how you cannot solve the problem of ideological capture with rules or systems. The Church had rules against raping altar boys and fornication, but that did not deter the homosexual priests. Instead, they organized to take over the system in order to get around these prohibitions. It turns out that rules and principles are no match for a dedicated minority that has no respect for the spirit behind those rules and principles.

This is the problem faced all over the managerial class. Any reform attempt must start with the removal of the infestation. In the case of foreign policy, it means a decapitation of the neocon establishment, both in government and outside government. You would have to fire everyone, remove their security clearances and maybe put a few in jail to publicly discredit the cult. Given the scale involved, that may not be possible, even if a president was committed to it.

The same process would have to happen with the climate cranks who have infested energy and environment. The regulatory state is now stocked with people who think their lawnmower is out to get them. The same holds for the Department of Justice and the FBI, as we saw in the Trump years. The managerial class has been captured by what should be described as a cult. Across the system, members of this bizarre new religion now wield power and control policy.

This is the truth of ideological capture. Once the infection sets in, the rules are slowly turned to the favor of the ideologues. Therefore, any effort to use the rules to disinfect the system ends up profiting the ideologues. The people vote for George Bush and they get Lyndon Johnson. They vote for Barak Obama and they get a different version of Lyndon Johnson. They vote for Trump and they get Nixon. The outputs no longer reflect inputs, because the rules no longer matter.


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Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
2 years ago

I am loathe to bring this up, but Ted Beale has been making the same point about SJW infiltration of our institutions for quite a while, and Ann Barnhardt has been doing the same regarding the homosexual takeover of the Roman Catholic Church. I am glad that Our Esteemed Host and Dear Leader Mr. Z posted an essay on this topic to give it wider dissemination. Both Mr. Beale and Miss Barnhardt have their own ideological blinders (Mr. Beale with his constant anti-“Boomer” agitation and Miss Barnhardt her strict adherence to the “One True Church” agenda), but they both serve… Read more »

Frip
Member

“the rules of engagement”

I’m familiar with the term, but is there a specific concept I should be aware of? Is there a book or article you can refer me to? Thanks.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
2 years ago

Another important factor chipping away at oil companies from the outside in are activist investment funds. It’s the organized version of the Activist Investors who gain one seat on the company’s board of directors and from that perch, begin the process of infiltration and agitation. Exxon is just one example of a big corporation who was targeted and ended up making considerable costly concessions playing the “climate worship” game. On a nationwide scale, it’s a huge burden of bullshit.

Frip
Member
Reply to  AnotherAnon
2 years ago

“a huge burden of bullshit” Great line. Applies to so much in one’s own life as well. Any burden is one thing. But when it’s all for naught…bullshit…what a waste. For instance, math, geometry, algebra. Schools pushed it hard. Certain parents pushed it extremely hard. Colleges required courses in the stuff. Basic math should be taught up to say, junior high. After that math should be optional. I wasn’t good at it. Was treated harshly because of it. Hatred of it turned to fear. Then to clinical horrific phobia. I finally got away from the dreaded maths when I dropped… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
2 years ago

It’s actually jewlogical capture, where truth is strictly verboten. Pretending to not see Evil will only expand and compound it.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dennis Roe
2 years ago

How do you account for the whites who hate whites or the selfish or greedy whites who just want to succeed in whatever system they find themselves?

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

You don’t. The OP said we’re all like captured asteroids circling a black hole.

Mr. Blank
Member
2 years ago

Ford’s CEO is talking about cutting the advertising budget for EVs. He talks it up as a great thing because the new EVs supposedly “sell themselves,” but I can’t read it as anything other than a frank admission that he no longer sees the people buying cars as his customers. He thinks the enviro-wackos in government are his real customers, and thinks he’ll make money as long as he keeps them happy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-may-slash-ad-spending-revamp-dealers-to-boost-ev-profit-ceo-says/ar-AAXXY4V?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Mr. Blank
2 years ago

WRT EVs, I do in fact think the government is going to be a key buyer, especially with any EV trucks. I don’t think the typical contractor or guy who needs a truck will ever be satisfied with an electric truck, just not feasible presently, all the hype of the great torque notwithstanding. Most guys after a hard day of work don’t want to have to deal with plugging in a truck and may not even have a charger situation available if they live in an apartment. So that means always having to go out of your way to charge… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mr. Blank
2 years ago

Have you seen the joke that is the F-150 Lightning?

I’m ashamed I share an alma mater with the program lead, who they are pushing everywhere as some kind of STEM heroine.

Bilejones
Member
2 years ago

The West is doomed. At its core it’s simple.
The men of Europe created societies where the average yeoman saw himself as sovereign and the rulers as tolerated/appointed/elected administrators tolerated to the degree to which they behave themselves. We live in countries heir to this view.
The self selected barons of Davos see themselves as feudal Lords accountable to no-one.
It is no accident that it is the White middle class targeted across all facets of society, they are the sole obstacles to the New Serfdom.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Democracy is ridiculous but equally ridiculous are the people who rise up in it to achieve political power. I mean they get there by bamboozling stupid people, meaning on a deep level their minds all have to think alike and are two sides of the same coin. Being led by people who have a deep grasp of the mental and emotional and psychological workings of average and stupid people, coupled with a personality type that enjoys exploiting them, is not a recipe for success, hence our current predicament and why so many people in the upper echelons think like common… Read more »

Hokkoda
Member
2 years ago

Operation: Decapitation has a path to success. Yesterday, Janet Yellen chose to claim she got inflation wrong (incompetence) rather than admit that the Treasury/Fed’s actions have maliciously caused the current inflationary spiral. The military was incompetent in Afghanistan, and their gaying-up the ranks is an obvious delusion that normal people understand to be willfully crazy. $5 gas, despite being deliberate, can also be cast as incompetent. The FBI “didn’t know” who Sussman worked for? Mueller spent $40M and never once figured out Clinton started the Russia hoax? (Both are lies, but:incompetence). Thousands dead on the southern border and your local… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Hokkoda
2 years ago

Do you think any of them will be held culpable? Naivete if “yes”.

Din C. Nuttin
Din C. Nuttin
2 years ago

Great thought-provoking column today, and great thought-provoking comments by Z’s esteemed readers. Thank you all!

James J. O'Meara
James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

“The homosexuals could infiltrate the priesthood because the Church was not explicitly anti-homosexual.” Really? News to me, and I suspect a lot of other people. I guess you’re using Conquest’s Law (any organization not explicitly conservative will become Leftist) and reverse engineering the Church. As usual, the truth is more interesting. The Church was full of homosexuals because it was “explicitly anti-homosexual”. It’s called “hiding in plain sight.” The Church of say, the 1940s, in the movie Going My Way, was not “explicitly anti-homosexual” in the sense that they weren’t talking about such nasty things in public, but that was… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

Are you serious? This is the same church that was vehemently anti-usury, and, through the years, became the largest banker of the western world. If you need reference, Michael Hoffmans’ “Usury: The Sin That Was and Now is Not” is an excellent reference. And he is a Catholic.

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
2 years ago

Cults can be dispossessed by using randomly selected general population members, and if unusual skill is needed then IQ tests can be used. Institutions that offer credentials signifying competence in specialist skills can be corrupted, but it’s a lot harder to slip past the “greater generalist”. The problem is, the governments do not represent the general population. In fact, they do not represent professional politicians who are reptilian psychopaths who don’t represent the population either. The deep state only cares about itself, and it is made this way because the capital cities do not reflect national demographics, beliefs, economics, etc.… Read more »

B125
B125
2 years ago

An interesting development taking place is the first signs of division between the Cloud People and their POC subjects. Note that I’m not advocating for CivNat ideology just pointing out some observations. It started with the COVID-19 scam. The division started when the horrified Boomers and screeching soccer mom factions shut down the economy over the flu. Unsurprisingly, blacks, Indians, and Latinos didn’t care. They went along with the mandates but none of them stopped their regular activities. The vaccine passport failed in the US largely because of blacks and their extreme criminality. I remember the first day that NYC… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

I don’t know if I agree. When I go out, I always see blacks wearing masks. They’re always the ones doing it.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 years ago

The craziest part around here is that blacks did not start to wear masks until masking requirements were dropped. Typing that, it makes a certain sense.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 years ago

i think black jab rates are relatively low. but yeah, i see nigs wearing masks here in FL.

Wiley
Wiley
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 years ago

Only ones I see wearing masks in SW Florida are snow turds from NY, NJ and OH. Blacks are statistically irrelevant.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Word is that Spain is doing a serious, federal-level crackdown on 2200, including the CEO, at a pharmaceutical company who all got forged jab credentials.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

Never underestimate the moral black hole that is the average human being. People who go to the Church uhh Chr-eye-sst on Sunday morning, love Nascar, see the place going full BLM and full Pride month…and still shuffle their fat a sses into the stadium to watch cars go around in circles. The human capacity for belonging…to anything…precludes the immediate walking out of jobs, churches, sports organizations, etc. It takes a lot of rot, and even then a lot of them just sit there like the brain dead, drooling, MAGA memes they are. These morally rotted out organizations exploit that…along with… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 years ago

“Something similar is happening with energy. Putting together a rational energy policy is impossible because everyone in that sector is now committed to the “green agenda” which embraces irrational energy policies. Notice that the response to the war in Ukraine is a series of policies that harm normal people in the West by furthering the agenda of the environmental movement. The war in Ukraine has given license to the people making war on climate change.” There seems to be some light for the first time in my memory on this issue between the Clouds not involved in Green Grift and… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Musk is a first class, top-shelf con-artist. It was never about the environment with him. It was about unlocking billions in subsidies and living a lifestyle at the pinnacle of affluence. He always knows the score. Teslas are more energy intensive than a jacked up diesel truck. Musk was using a suicide cult for affluence, but would be ruined if they actually commit suicide.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

Yep. Musk and Co. realize the Green ambulants they produce with government money and peddle require even the upper middle class missionaries they target to have a $100k in discretionary spending freely available. Musk is not alone, and my money is on the Clouds pushing the Managerial Elite off the current path.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

Musk holds a BS in Physics.

He knows full well the claims around so-called green energy are bunk.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

So do most of his customers, believe it or not. It’s not about actually doing anything for the environment, it’s about making the right noises, and being seen as you make them.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Try going to the physics dept in any University and ask the staff and students about global warming/green energy and replacing hydrocarbons.

What would you wager the split would be for such people on the issues?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Oh, I’m sure things are much different now than the early 90s when Elon did his degree.

I mean, you should see the crap they put in my alumni mags and emails these days.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

Musk’s genius is for recognizing opportunities.
Unlike the grifters he’s not responsible for the policies, he merely uses them.
He does us all a favor because he exposes the idiocy of those policies,

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

A lot of the “green” energy companies are just subsidiaries of Big Oil. It’s a “heads we win, tails you lose” scam on the cognitively impaired. Apart from that, there’s no way they can meet their energy goals in the time-frame they’re proposing. The capacity in terms of building the infrastructure (including metals and rare earth minerals) wouldn’t exist even if they turned the planet into one giant strip mine, and that’s not very green.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

“I’ll go out on a limb and predict a reversion to normal fossil fuel usage sometime around August if that Musk faction grows louder.”

The energy crash will only continue until the plutocrats buy up the resources and facilities at fire-sale prices. This is a consolidation & financialization of the energy industry, not the end of energy.

Except for deplorables, of course.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

They will always defend the status quo. There is no short term pain with the status quo and everyone in power is benefiting from the status quo and will not benefit and in fact will be harmed by changing the status quo. They will hang on as long as possible before rapidly changing when the status quo is no longer tenable. During the Carter administration, the U.S. Department of Education was created. Reagan promised to end this new monstrosity. Ending it would have caused pain and the people who supported the dept would be writing op-eds and appearing on the… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

How can we get a cabinet level “Department of Occidental Dissidence” created?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

The DOE was just another jobs program for loyal functionaries. It was only signed into law in ’79 and decades later has only precipitous educational decline to show for itself. But unlike the numerous Immigration Reform and Border Security bills that have passed since IRCA in ’86, the DOE gets funded. Funny how that works. (Are we up to 10 Amnesties now? I’ve lost count.)

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
2 years ago

Spectacular. Well done. But – the current state of the west is no mere infestation, Z. All three top layers of gubbimint are compromised. The cults are weaponized and more than capable of defending themselves. A mere revolution will be stomped on and ground out the way it was on Jan. 6. The queers still control the church, the climate commies control the gubbimint, and the guys with funny hats and big noses seem to preside over it all, through all three of the top management levels. No, a mere revolution won’t do it at all. It’s Hitler time. Consider:… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

No tribe member has ever done anything wrong ever in the history of the world. If you say otherwise, you have obviously succumbed to that strangest of maladies called antisemitism. Leo Frank dindu nuffin. He couldn’t have. He’s a tribe member and by definition, a good man.

How evil do you have to be to defend a man who raped and murdered a 13yo child?

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

will it be a second civil war, or a second revolution?

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

The problem is this time round electronic media completely dominates 90% of people’s thoughts. I was going to say minds, but they do not actually have one in the manner of people from earlier generations.

I doubt there is more than 10% who are actually able to turn around and reject a pushed mind worm, no matter how much it destroys themselves or their family.

Unlike the earlier example you cite, where a print was the primary control vector. Print just can’t exert the same minute by minute attitude control, hence the ability to turn society around at that time.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

“The problem is this time round electronic media completely dominates 90% of people’s thoughts. I was going to say minds, but they do not actually have one in the manner of people from earlier generations.” No doubt true, but is it permanent? That’s not rhetorical, either, because whether humanity is cognizable as humanity depends on if that ten percent of holdouts disappears or grows. In my darker moments disappearance seems far the more likely, but that’s based on nothing more than observation and a bleak outlook. The only hesitation to fully become despondent is the Regime seems uncertain if this… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

And for no reason at all…

Yep, no reason at all…

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

Once again, yes to all of this. But enough elaboration of the problem. How do we get to solution? Putin spent two decades trying the get the West to address the NATO/Nazi problem in Ukraine via peaceful negotiation, but the Cloud People would have none of it. This made war inevitable, but Putin is fighting with real weapons and solidiers rather than the LARPing version being pursued by the US/EU. This means that a lot a tangential white guys are now dying needlessly because real war means real dead. And it will go on until the sane within Ukraine rise… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

By my calculations it would only require killing a pitiful small number of people. 15-20K would get this ship turned around. (satire)

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

The media is the first set of dingleberries that need to be pulled, and enough of them in a short period of time that they become afraid to report their lies. Everything active the right has done in the last few years has always been met with months of the media squealing about “right-wing violence”. Now look at muslims. If some French or British reporter says anything nasty about the religion of peace, it isn’t long before some deranged migrant is dancing around in the street waving the reporter’s severed head around. And thus the media in Europe is oddly… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Ploppy
2 years ago

The problem with the “media” now is that it is a kind of biotechnology, which has been completely converged into the meatsacks. The old meat refuses to believe that the “news” has any agenda beyond reporting the facts. The younger meat shuns the news entirely, in favor of a monolithic network of narrative generators that demand 24/7 participation – and are intractable from the portfolio of conveniences and services upon which they are addicted like crack babies. And ultimately that monolith is now the keeper of their social status. To reject that is to become a Freejack. A nonperson. (Buy… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Exactly. This is the control nexus. Everything is downstream from this.

How to address it?

A complete block on phones for data seems a start, but I can’t see how one changes the underlying without a large enforced collapse in modern communication.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Already severed.
Tried to talk sense to the ones I thought possibly could see the writing on the wall, a few did but fewer still are willing to act in self preservation. Most seem to be lemmings.

Still a lot to do yet.
Scrambling to beat hell
Nothing I’d like better than to be wrong at this point.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ploppy
2 years ago

Speaking of, from the New York Post today:

“Norah O’Donnell’s salary slashed by more than half at ‘CBS Evening News’”

It isn’t an ethnostate, and what is or could be, but that’s quite satisfying.

yo
yo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Her salary goes from 8 figures a year to 7 figures a year, probably. and she is white, likely Irish catholic. Highly expendable. Try doing this with a POC

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
2 years ago

This is a convincing, and, I believe, accurate description of what has happened to government. To a certain extent, the same is true of academia, where, at least in the social sciences and humanities, various shades of postmodernism dominate every field. Of course, the primary weaknesses that allowed ideological capture of both academia and government were naivete and inattention. Normal people in positions of power in both sectors simply did not pay attention to what the cultists actually believed, and to the extent that they did, misunderstood their nature and assumed they were fundamentally no different from previous versions of… Read more »

BeAprepper
BeAprepper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

“..the only solution is, in turn, to burn academia down to the slab.”

If that is the only solution then there is no solution. Our dear leader is about to write a check and forgive student debt. Local School districts will be denied federal money unless they comply.

The anti-education, pro indoctrination library/education/media complex is as entrenched as the anti-America pro-war military/industrial complex.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  BeAprepper
2 years ago

True enough. I don’t really think this is possible. And that is why I advocate for separation rather than revolution or the creation of parallel institutions.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Separation, followed by asymmetrical warfare.

BeAprepper
BeAprepper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Didn’t we try that in 1861?

Kinda like that Hotel California. You can check out any time you like

But

You can never leave.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  BeAprepper
2 years ago

The past does not determine the future.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

I think what you describe is the fatal flaw in a high trust society.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Auld Mark
2 years ago

After it all comes crashing down, that fatal level of trust won’t be seen again for a very long time. Centuries, perhaps.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Interesting thought wrt “trust” as in high level trust society. The common belief is that such has a basis in biology, as well as culture. If there is a genetic component, the return will be assured and must be fought against, or directed more appropriately. More institutions for future undermining?

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Compsci, The dilemma for west.civ. then is how intragal to complex and high civilization is “high trust” ? It was the norm in the anglosphere and Europe all of my younger life. So the question is is it necessary, or just a remnant of genetic material left over from the ice age. The correct answer could be very important and I’m not sure we really know.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Auld Mark
2 years ago

Have there been other high trust societies besides whites?

I assume that Japan and China either have, or have had, such societies.

On the other hand, if you try to catch a bus in Chinatown in San Fran, you may be trampled by the Chinese, young and old. They do not seem to have the ability to create or maintain an orderly line. That seems pretty low trust to me but maybe they behave differently in their home countries.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Heh, the wife and I stopped going to onsens in recent years because Chinese tourists crapping up everything. They’re assholes. Not all of them, but I get why the Japanese, or hell, most others, carry the stereotypes they do.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 years ago

In broad terms, the Japanese have a high trust society, while the Chinese are quite the opposite. Sure, the Han may take an inordinate amount of pride in themselves racially, but on a personal level they’ll screw each other over without a second thought.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

The only weakness in the “Long march through the institutions” scenario is that these ideologues – be they perverts, neo-cons or eco fascists – are increasingly cut off from reality as experienced by most people on the ground. That leaves them open to making catastrophically stupid errors that end with their heads on poles. We are seeing something of this now where the green crazies are deliberately destroying the fuel supply chains and energy grid. Most people are pathetic sheep, but even sheep will rebel when they have to spend winter freezing in their cellars.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

What was most shocking about that Disney video that Rufo published where they admit to their sexuality indoctrination initiatives is that every single person in that meeting has their own personal sign language person. Not a person in that meeting was deaf but they all had to show that they were looking out for someone out there somewhere who might know somebody who might know somebody who might be deaf. Some executive somewhere approved all of those hires. Of course they probably don’t know anybody deaf because when you have a person who is truly disabled you treat them with… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

that’s just because Bezos wants to see the cripples dying on the warehouse floor, as they try and keep up with their schedule.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Redefining reality, in this case what constitutes a handicapped person, is the most powerful weapon these people have.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  KGB
2 years ago

True, but that also makes for opportunity. Imagine someone seeking employment on the basis of their disability of transgenderism. What’s HR to do? To take it a step further, the SSI system could be collapsed if enough folks claimed disability, and it were to be approved, on the basis of inability to work due to racism or homophobia.

Din C. Nuttin
Din C. Nuttin
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Yeah, Happy Sodomy month, everyone!

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Read an article about the Russian “Satan” missiles. Only need three to wipe out the entire east coast, three more for the west coast. If I had Vlads ear I’d ask him to start on the west first, hell I’d even suggest what to hit. Those missiles should be called Archangels

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Spingerah
2 years ago

“ …carrying warheads with 50 times the obliteration power of the Hiroshima bomb.”

More FUD from ignorant “reporters”. The missile is not the “warhead”. The (a?) warhead is touted as 50x’s Hiroshima’s 20 kiloton warhead, or 1000 kilotons (1 megaton). Hell, that’s small and common in today’s Arsenal.

Perhaps they mean Czar Bomba 50MT nukes? If they can put a half dozen of those on a Satan, then maybe.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

With any smarts it’d be 4 or 5 miles off the coasts. a hundred fathoms deep.
Boston, most of Cnntict, New York City. Long Island, Jersey, Philly, Delaware Baltimore Washington etc etc all washed clean.

Similar on the left coast.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Nope, not a chance. More FUD. Even a “minor” earthquake contains more energy than our largest strategic nuke. It’s called physics. In all our underground testing, we never created any dangerous events. There is no reason—except FUD—to conclude tsunamis of such proportions as to sweep away whole cities.

Yeah, the energy in a ground explosion coupled with radiation and potential fires is bad news on a city center, but you speculation is just that.

Francis
Francis
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Whoever wrote that is just another media idiot who’s clueless about modern nuclear weapons. The Sarmat can carry 10-20 MIRV warheads or multiple hypersonic glide vehicles. The nuclear yields of each warhead are not public, but if we assume a relatively modest 500 kilotons-1 megaton each, then a single Sarmat carries the destructive power of 500-1250 Little Boys that hit Hiroshima, and can be aimed at 20 different targets while circumventing the globe in any direction to reach its targets. The original Tsar Bomba was actually designed to a carry a 100 megaton yield (6250 times larger than Little Boy),… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Francis
2 years ago

Yields for each general class of warhead are public, but the explosive lensing techniques used to implement a nuclear explosion are highly classified. More broadly speaking, nuclear deterrence moved away from single, high-yield warheads to more modular sub-orbital deployed MIRVs containing numerous lower-yield warheads. Kind of nifty because you can sprinkle less kilo-tonnage over a wider area and do much more efficient damage. Duh, right? Well, nuclear lensing allows for adjustable yields. One MIRV can deploy lower-yield warheads 1-3 to a seaside portion of a city for harbor denial, warheads 4-6 can be adjusted higher to ride on in to… Read more »

forgotmypen
forgotmypen
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

“Some say the end is near.
Some say we’ll see Armageddon soon.
Certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit three-ring circus sideshow of freaks.”

Maynard was ahead of his time.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  forgotmypen
2 years ago

Yes. He and Chris Cornell were the last of anything resembling art that the culture has produced that became reasonably popular. Too bad he is so hard up for relevance he started covering Lennon’s Imagine, and doing anti-Trump, amateur stuff. Don’t care about anti-Trump, but it was clearly pandering and bandwagon jumping. Sadly even hope to see Maynard down in Arizona Bay.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

This is why companies, big and small, go bankrupt. Bankruptcy is the natural resolution to a business that put another agenda in place of serving the customer, whatever that was. The church, of all denominations, is in free fall because the customer (congregations) aren’t being served, they leave with their feet. The agenda exclusively serves the ideology of the inside click. With government, it’s not that simple. Government is force. You would literally have to leave the country, and find one that accepts you to escape. You can get out of your pew, give the finger to the Episcopal priest… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

I agree with most of your post, JR. However, when was the last time a corporation went bankrupt because of fealty to ideology rather than customer? I don’t think it has ever happened. “Go woke, go broke” is the wishful thinking of the Griller. The reason this is the case is because all corporations share the same anti-white ideology. There is no point in penalizing Nike by giving your business to Adidas because the latter hates whitey as much as the former. Consequently, nobody does it, and corporations are free to pursue their anti-white agenda to the hilt.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Using Procter and Gamble as an example, I’ve boycotted them for a long time due to their ads, which were among the first to be “woke.” I would rather shave with a kitchen knife. However, I’m a tiny minority who boycotts. Most people don’t care. At all. If anything they find the woke stuff humorous. For every person like me who boycotts there are probably two or three who love the ads. But 99% don’t care at all. They’re unthinking slugs. So the company loses 30 million dollars on this. They spend that on sky boxes. The customers themselves are… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

I went to see if P&G had a Mideast presence, but I couldn’t find it. Most multinational corp’s curate their “Pride month” messaging regionally. It’s so cynical. Particularly among luxury car manufacturers.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Once they get to a certain size, they are almost impervious to the go woke/go broke. Also, when everyone is doing the woke, it is hard to make them go broke. P&G too woke for you? Great, buy Unilever, another woke company. Or boycott both and save a bunch of money because you won’t be buying anything. Amazon, Target, Walmart? same thing. What oil company is woke-free? Do you like your rainbow in a swoosh or three stripes? The Church is a bit different, in that at its core, it doesn’t matter about the numbers for its true purpose. It… Read more »

mikey
mikey
2 years ago

From the South China Morning Post: “The signal that we are sending is that we’re not going to tolerate the illicit activities of the Quds Force, of other Iranian proxies, terrorist groups that receive Iranian support,” State Department spokesman Ned Price said of Wednesday’s action. It happens that the Quds Force is a unit of the Iranian military, not a proxy. The US State Department assumes the authority to call the military units of other countries “terrorist groups”. But the more interesting aspect is State Department spokesman Ned Price. He’s an openly gay, Georgetown/Harvard grad who resigned from his position… Read more »

RedBeard
RedBeard
2 years ago

There’s evidence to suggest the Catholic priesthood is becoming much more conservative again. Austin Ruse sites the studies of seminarians in his book Under Siege; highly recommended.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  RedBeard
2 years ago

The liberal priest bubble is a phenomenon of the Boomer generation. When the Boomers were young, being a homosexual was still not respectable, so many went into the priesthood because it was a way to stay respectably not married forever. There, they tried remaking the church in their image. But now that being openly homosexual is celebrated, few see the need to sign up for living within the limitations of priestly life, and it’s reverted to being something that men only do because they feel a deep calling to it – i.e., for the right reasons. The shadow of the… Read more »

David Wright
Member
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

So even here the Boomers take some crap. Homosexuality was not respectable with them and the bi product of it is we get gay priests and that’s on them?

The Church will definitely not heal from this generations exit just look at the younger generations involvement and hard and soft atheisim attitudes they have.

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

Yes, I have thought a lot about that. We, the real Catholics, are appalled to see how a bunch of f*gs, globalists and progressive people have taken over the Church. If you want to know more read “Infiltration” by Taylor Marshall and “The undermining of the Catholic Church” by Mary Ball Martínez. Once the fake Catholics are in charge, there is no mechanism to expunge this plague from the Church because the Catholic Church is a hierarchical structure, by design. So, in search of a solution, many real Catholics speak about “the biological solution”; meaning that new generations of priests… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  imnobody00
2 years ago

You’ve captured the heart and root of the problem:

Lying works, for managerial ‘true believers’. That is, those whose secret career is advancing themselves and their fellow travelers.

The shell doesn’t matter to the parasite, only his people- expanding his tribe- does. Thus, he elevates himself.

(And no, I’m not pointing out the Tribe, but speaking only in a general sense. As a black fire captain complained about Atlanta city council, “if you ain’t family, you ain’t in.”)

Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden
Reply to  imnobody00
2 years ago

This is the question we all struggle with. Being true to our faith is the best most of us can hope to do. We are largely powerless to set right what has become so corrupt. Instead, perhaps, our lives can contribute to a better world like the proverbial mustard seed, each small contribution combing to a larger whole, setting the stage for revitalization after the whole rotten edifice has fallen of its own accord.

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
Reply to  imnobody00
2 years ago

A reexamination of the emergence of the Christian church and the problem of the Sanhedrin as a corrupt murderous committee will illustrate closing down such a corruption and the destruction of such a problem people. Nicodemus used the phrase “…we know…” as a declaration/indicator of the reality of these people and what they were all about. Closing out the Old Covenant and establishing the New Covenant exclusively through Jesus Christ (the Son of God) also required a ‘bill of divorcement’ (which is what the Revelation of Jesus Christ is largely all about) giving advance warning (like the Parable of the… Read more »

Numby
Numby
Reply to  RoboFascist 1st
2 years ago

That European Holocaust you mention — a story one has heard a lot about in the past decades. It’s a truly compelling narrative.

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
Reply to  RoboFascist 1st
2 years ago

Another way of stating it is…
I’m not a Holocaust denier since I know the wrath of God when I see it.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  imnobody00
2 years ago

Like in the secular world, the mechanism of reform has been destroyed and taken over by the enemies of the Church. The seminaries are overrun with progressive atheists masquerading as priests. Where would the new blood come from as the boomers retire? The seminaries.

This is the problem. The engine of destruction is outside of the Church proper. Everyone looks at the Church and says “Oh, God, we need new blood, we need reform….” and nobody seems to think “where will this new blood and reform come from?”

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  imnobody00
2 years ago
krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  RedBeard
2 years ago

the question is what kind of person do you want going into the priesthood? I’ve always thought that the type of person you want is someone like Robin Williams’ character in “Good Will Hunting”.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
2 years ago

Just yesterday my HR lady said to me that we should ban the corporate regional manager from our building until he gets a Covid test.
The background to this is the regional manager showed up with the sniffles and she asked him if he had gotten a Covid test and he said no.

These are the same kind of people negotiating with Russia, a nuclear power.
That should give us a lot of comfort.

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I think it was the Shoshone at the Nevada Test Site that already got the worst of it.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

You’re paraphrasing a quote attributed to Otto von Bismarck:

“God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.”

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
2 years ago

Interesting. Didn’t know he coined that one. Didn’t really matter cuz it was so common.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Did somebody say something about having to burn the place down once its infested?

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
2 years ago

You should have cracked off a comment about her not needing to worry because of her latest booster shot. “If you have had five shots, why would you worry about Covid?”

Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

Sadly, logic never works with what constitutes a moral question to the anointed. She would simply respond that it is immoral to subject others to the risk.

The interesting thing is that their morality has an intersectional hierarchy. Potentially infected migrants get a free pass, e.g.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Iron Maiden
2 years ago

That’s why I loudly affirm and recommend to them that they should get every vaccination and booster as soon as possible.

They have my whole-hearted support in this. Their damaged kids, family, and friends too. This is war.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Albert Bourla, Pfizer: “By 2023, we will have reduced world population by 50%.”

You go, girl!

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
2 years ago

I still can’t go into my cube farm at GloboBank because HR and “The Science” deems me unclean.
Oh, how I miss the open floor plan and the 2 hour a day commute.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Mow Noname
2 years ago

I’m rooting for the clot shots.
And Vladimir.
I’ll just have to do something else with all that ammo.

Felix Krull
Member
2 years ago

Great column! It’s the end-stage of the Long March Through the Institutions, captured by its own internal logic.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

When your strategy is to occupy and subvert, subversion is baked into the cake.

imbroglio
imbroglio
2 years ago

“Rules and principles are no match for a dedicated minority that has not (sic) respect for the spirit behind those rules and principles.” That’s always been the case. For the management analogy to work, it would require infiltration and sabotage or, on the other hand, personal opportunism . It would be an odd third tier manager at an energy company who’d promote policies that undermine the company. On the other hand, someone who’s anti-energy might take a job at an energy company to pad their resume for a jump up the ladder at a company opposed to the energy industry.… Read more »

Severian
2 years ago

A bit tangential, I realize, but something to think about after The Reckoning: It seems that the only real way to avoid this kind of thing is by having a cellular structure. Big business units don’t work, because The Management is by its nature divorced from the day-to-day operation, which is how these weasels sneak in. (I remember my one tangential involvement with the hiring process. It was one of those management fads where they were supposed to ask the phone monkeys for our input. I didn’t say anything in the meeting, but afterwards I went to my boss —… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

A good start would be imposing a Carthaginian peace on the Ivy League, where all the current Bolsheviks have ties.

Harvard delenda est!

Chet Rollins
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

> Keep it small, to where the manager has direct hands-on daily contact with the rank-and-file.

A good rule of thumb is to force every level to have at least a passable knowledge of it’s company’s core competency. If it’s ironworks, the CEO should have a decent knowledge of the metallurgy involved. If it’s software, executives should have at least basic programming competence. They don’t have to be the best, but snakes tend to only be good at being snakes, so it’s a good weedout.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Western business schools have long taught the idea that MBA holders are fungible resources who can move among industries at will.

The Detroit automakers implemented this idea at various points. It didn’t go well for them.

Severian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

They’re exactly like the old Russian Apparat, which was just commie-speak for the old Russian word intelligentsia. Basically experts without portfolio — they can do anything, anywhere, so long as they have the proper philosophical orientation, comrade. Maybe read a book or two about the subject, if they’ve got the time, but it’s not really necessary. Who needs to have hands-on engineering experience when you’ve read your Alexander Herzen?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

Dr. Elena Ceausescu, M.D., PhD*, looks up and says, “it works until it doesn’t, comrade.”

*She probably didn’t read a book because of her rumored illiteracy; in that system and ours, even these barest minimal qualifications are required only below a certain station. A prime contemporary example is Kamala Harris. Dr. Jill Biden, EdD, PhD, is an example of someone who probably had to go through the motions of reading one or two books.

Severian
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

Dobson,

I spent many years in academia. I know lots of Education PhDs. You are giving them way, way too much credit. I really do believe shit like “Gender Studies” and “African-American Studies” is more challenging than “Education.” No matter how low you think the bar is, lower it. A lot.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

@Severian:

Oh, I trust you. Prior to Biden, I had lowered the bar for a State puppet to sentience.

Silly me.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Boeing used to be able to make planes that didn’t fall out of the sky when it was run by engineers,

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

you knew damn well i was a snake before you took me in.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

If we didn’t know it then, we know it now.

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
2 years ago

Welcome America to your anti-Christ culture!

Do I care who or what Almighty God raises up to destroy it?

NO.

Severian
2 years ago

I’ve always wondered if it’s the personality type that drives the “ideology” or the other way around. Not just in Hoffer’s sense of True Believers, or the Kremlinologist who declared that Lenin and Stalin didn’t become revolutionaries because they were Marxists, but became Marxists because they were revolutionaries. I guess what I’m trying to get at is: There’s a kind of person who can not just endure meetings, but actually likes them. Communists, obviously, are this way to a man — the history of Communism as a phenomenon is just so damn boring, because it’s nothing but acronyms of little… Read more »

Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

The introduction of women into the workplace facilitated the takeover by committee-types. Women seem to naturally prefer committee-based approaches to work and problem-solving. (Not all women, of course, just a preponderance).

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Iron Maiden
2 years ago

Problem-solving?
Women don’t ever want to actually solve problems, they just want to talk about them.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Old joke: What’s the difference between how men and women argue? Men pick one subject, they don’t bring up anything more than 6 months old, and they try to reach a resolution.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

I think it was Thomas Sowell who said a manager’s effectiveness is inversely related to his love of meetings. In my experience, those who love meetings are very clever people who can quickly learn the issues at hand, debate the nuances, and read where the decision makers want to go. They then steer their analysis toward that direction, impressing everyone with their intellect, and giving the decision makers support for the conclusions they wanted in the first place. But, put these people in charge of a division, with accountability for results, and they fail every time. They don’t know the… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

Meetings are a byproduct of “make work” (bulls**t) jobs. That is to say they are fill-in for nothing better to do. Academia is full of these people who must fill-in their time and look “productive”. Yeah, there are faculty included as well, but not in the numbers of staff (IMO). I confess to such “appointments” on committees myself. They are unavoidable, since assigned by the Chair. I told this story once before, but in fits here too. I once got my calendar mixed up and attended a meeting of a committee I was not even a member of. Since any… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

When I ran meetings at a megabank the purpose was to announce decisions and shoot down nay-Sayers.
The first couple were a bit long but after that they were satisfactorily brisk.
The purpose was simple and two fold.
No-one could claim they didn’t know, no-one could claim they didn’t have an opportunity to be heard,

Melissa
Melissa
2 years ago

This morning, the conservative talk radio blow-hard out of the imperial capital brought up the 2nd amendment. One of his major arguments was to state that gun ownership among African American women has “gone up 20%!”
Yet another opportunity to ingratiate themselves with the ideologues on the left.
These people must wake up each morning and go to sleep each night scheming and dreaming of ways they can fink on core supporters; white America.

Chet Rollins
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

It’s considered tacky for whites to explicitly argue for their own interests, so they have to root for foreign people with proxy values to their own.

Israel – Ethnostate
Hispanics – Family Values (ha!)
Blacks – Opportunity for all.
Ukraine – Civil War/Red Dawn fantasies
etc.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

So true! While white conservatives are the salt of the earth people who make a community possible and prosper, they are so craven and pathetic at this point in time.

They would rather die than argue explicitly for their own interests.

I love them but I hate them.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 years ago

You probably need purges of the kind carried out by Stalin in the 1930s.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

“For years, the military has hindered my plans! They’ve put every kind of obstacle in my way! What I should have done… was liquidate all the high-ranking officers, as Stalin did!”

The Ghost of Mustache Man approves.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
2 years ago

My suspicion was that Stalin was paranoid of a military coup, more than anything. It cost the USSR greatly in WWII since the military did not have a tradition of an NCO cadre to “train” the newly minted officer ranks. How high a purge? Not sure, nor am I an authority, but Solzhenitsyn was a very “junior” officer and he was purged at that time (IIRC).

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

You’re right about the need for Stalin-style purges. The day that I finally become supreme ruler of this country (heh), I’ll unleash a Terror that will make the French revolutionaries look like amateurs.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
2 years ago

All ideologues have one thing in common- They want you to HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR RULES OR PAY THE PRICE. The problem with most people is no one has the balls to say NO before the Cult of The Whatever takes over an organization. These ideologues at heart are all scammers, for they make sure more of their kind is hired below them so their own personal dollop of cream rises to the top of the turd bowl, and that there are often heavy tangible monetary costs for those who don’t obey their dictates. Everything these people do ultimately comes… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Coalclinker
2 years ago

Saying “ladies and gentlemen” over a public PA system has become an act of defiance.

The Power of the Powerless. Resist where you can. Vaclav Havel would approve.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

“Saying “ladies and gentlemen” over a public PA system has become an act of defiance.” Funny you should mention that. This past Sunday The Lovely 🥰 Mrs. and I attended the Indianapolis 500. For years since the 1940s the traditional command given to the field after the singing of “Back Home Again in Indiana” was “Gentlemen, Start Your Engines!” When women started showing up in the starting field it was amended to “Lady (or Ladies) and Gentlemen, Start Your Engines!” Every other track in the series uses the more generic “Drivers, Start Your Engines!”. Gentlemen has always been reserved for… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Coalclinker
2 years ago

“Wear your mask!”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Coalclinker
2 years ago

“These ideologues at heart are all scammers.”

Ideology is more important that benefitting from a personal scam. This is why the conservative slogan about companies, “Go woke, go broke,” is mostly false.

You misunderstand our enemies if you believe their greatest motivation is personal gain. Our enemies are committed to a religion vision.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

The ideology and the scam are intertwined. Ever notice how well the ideologies financially serve the ideologues? They always seem to be the ones who benefit the most.

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Outdoorspro
2 years ago

Right. Ideology and self-interest is the same thing. It’s not hypocrisy. It’s the fact that people have an uncanny ability to deceive themselves. They see themselves as altruistic while following the most selfish course of action’.

BerndV
BerndV
2 years ago

This process also explains how Jews come to infest the upper management hierarchy of a company like Disney.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  BerndV
2 years ago

I’m not so sure if it was ideological capture, rather ethno-capture. Disney was a known anti-Semite and was in control of one of the great American media companies. Jews just infiltrated the company and did their thing.

Panzernutter
Panzernutter
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Wernher von Braun.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  BerndV
2 years ago

And how Pajeets have taken over the hospitality industry in the United States.

Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Another aspect of management by committee is that it’s impossible to get anyone fired for incompetence without ruthlessly purging the entire group. The consensus model allows no single person to have to take responsibility unless they were a fall guy and not “being a team player”. Since it’s far riskier for management to take out an entire section of managers, they simply look the other way in failure after failure after failure. You’re also going to have the most limp-wristed, passive leadership imaginable with only the most sanitized, CYA decisions. Nothing bold will ever come out of it. There might… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I bet your Cv committee spends most of their time sitting around wondering why no one is in a hurry to return to the office.

I am also tired of all the corporate big talk about accountability and responsibility when there is none to be found at any organizational level these days.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

If you have to name your car dealership “Honest John’s Motors”, it’s obvious you’re a crook. 😏

Panzernutter
Panzernutter
Reply to  mmack
2 years ago

You won’t get a lemon at Toyota of orange. Real commercial, been on the airwaves in SoCal for decades.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

“Where morals are talked about, there are none.” – Lao Tzu

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Or something along the lines of “only losers and winners can wing on about moral.”

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

For those who want to boldly resist bureaucracy, the OSS (precursor to the CIA) issued the “Simple Sabotage Field Manual” during WWII. Now declassified, the relevant portion is “based on universal opportunities to make faulty decisions, to adopt a non-cooperative attitude, and induce others to follow suit.” Some examples: 1. Make speeches. At great length 2. Insist on doing everything “through channels”. Email is especially good at this today. 3. Haggle over precise wording of communications. 4. Advocate “caution”. Be “reasonable”. 5. Refer all matters to committees, for “further study and consideration”. Make the committees as large as possible. And… Read more »

Rando
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

Someone posted a list of the opposite of this a while back in gab. Basic idea was, do the opposite of what was published by the OSS to ensure your organization runs well.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

The OSS, much like its future mutation, the CIA, was disproportionately funded for all its purported wartime effectiveness. Being made up of mostly lawyers and overeducated paper pushers too good to serve in the actual military, they wrote some surprisingly practical doctrine on covert warfare.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

Riffing on your points a bit, a brief review of the organizational techniques used by the Turkish Gülen movement may hold some interesting lessons for dissidents.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
2 years ago

this is the virus model i action. ideological capture eventually leads to the collapse of the captured system, because ideologues do not care about keeping the system healthy. and that’s how they are flushed out and lose power; the infested system is replaced.