Economically Pondering

A feature of this age is words and phrases have fluid definitions, rather than the old, fixed definitions from our dark history. Vaccine used to mean a preparation to simulate the immune system in order to prevent infection. Now it means the sponsor of the regime friendly cable chat shows. Recession used to mean two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, but now it means a thing that never happens. After all, who can really say what words really mean anyway?

It looks like we may be getting a new definition for bear market, which used to mean a prolonged decline in equities. The rule of thumb is that a long decline that reached 20% off the previous high is a bear market. Yesterday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average reached that point when it dipped below 29,300. It is now off 20.4% from the high in January 2022 when stocks rallied after the end of Covid. The index is now below the level it was at when Biden took office.

The main reason the market is in decline is the global economy is a mess and Western finances are even worse. The wild spending during Covid was always going to come with a hefty cost, but the assumption was that the economy would just turn back on and everything would be fine. Western government could then stretch the cost of Covid policies over a long period of time. Instead, we have inflation, war and a global energy crisis that is demanding government action.

The post Cold War economic model, the New World Order, is based on the assumption that conflict between major states was a thing of the past. America was the last remaining superpower, who would police relations between the major powers of the world and prevent minor powers from getting out of line. Disputes would be sorted through the various international organizations. The business of the world was no longer ideology. It was business.

That turned out to be a grand bit of self-deception. The ideological fervor of the West, particularly the Global American Empire, was the main driver of Covid policy and is now the main source of economic chaos in the world. Western rulers saw the pandemic as a chance to launch their Build Back Better schemes. This not only led to massive shutdowns of the economy, but the scrambling of global supply chains. It turns out that the magical replacements did not just appear as assumed.

Then we have the war on Russia and to a lesser extent China. This is a two phase war, with one phase public and one phase private. The public phase is the vast array of sanctions levied against Russia and any country aiding Russia. The private phase is the currency war being waged by Washington. The booming dollar is supposed to curb domestic inflation and protect the petrodollar. There are also acts of economic sabotage like the recent attack on European gas lines.

The question that is never asked, but may turn out to be the most important, is why has it taken so long for economic data to turn sour? Shuttering wide swaths of the economy to fight the flu should have triggered a massive recession. Expanding the money supply through massive credit creation should have resulted in massive price hikes and many asset bubbles. The policies of the last three years should have brought disaster, but here we are with only the threat of disaster.

One thing the last three years has revealed is that the people who think they are indispensable to the running of society are not that important. The managerial elite made one terrible decision after another but the system carried on, because the people who actually work found a way. Businesses figured out a way to keep the lights on, despite the best efforts of government. Their people figured out how to get their work down, even with the lockdowns.

One possible source of the paranoid terror we see in the ruling class is the unspoken understanding that they are unessential. Their pompous self-regard is a mask concealing a deep fear that the Dirt People might figure out that the Cloud People are just an expensive ornament. Joe Biden is a dementia riddled vegetable, which makes clear that the job of president is ceremonial. Next in line is a former prostitute with the IQ of a goldfish. These are not serious jobs.

Another possible reason the economic data is defying economic theory is that the numbers are not what they claim. An iron rule of life is that anything with value will be faked or stolen. Economic data has value to the ruling class, as it is seen as a tool of control, so faking the numbers is possible. For example, many people think the Biden people have been giving us fake gasoline demand data. This would be an effort to jawbone down gas prices.

This is an old game that was popular in the Obama years. Every month the Feds would release rosy economic data, only to revise down the numbers at some point in the future when no one was paying attention. How much of this is going on today is hard to know, but we can use inflation as a guide. Anyone who has been to the grocery store knows that inflation is much bigger than the official government stats. We can probably assume similar manipulation everywhere.

Even so, you can only fake this stuff for so long. Providing fake data and false narratives is like check kiting. It works initially, but eventually the gap between reality and the false narratives gets too broad to maintain. This is what we see with immigration in Europe, where the it has toppled two government recently. Those romantic stories about how immigration enriches society do not hold up when the subway station is a warzone controlled by African gangs.

The other question, now that reality seems to be catching up with Western governments, is how bad will things get economically? The Europeans are just at the start of the long dark winter promised by Joe Biden. The British pound is in crisis and members of the ruling party are revolting against the new PM. The Euro is not doing much better, having fallen to ninety-six cents on the dollar. Of course, the dollar is soaring as people flee to the reserve currency for protection.

The soaring dollar creates a dilemma for the Federal Reserve. If they continue to withdraw dollars to fight inflation, they risk a currency crisis. If they back off the tightening, they risk a fresh explosion of inflation. Because of the dollar’s relationship to energy markets, it would also trigger rising energy prices. Then there is the politics, which is already turning up. Bad political environments tend to result in bad economic decisions, which make for more bad politics.

That is the final question at this stage. Can the managerial elite of the Global American Empire talk their way out of this? A central belief of the ruling class is that if they can create a plausible narrative and talk about it enough, it becomes reality. Can they convince the world that this is all just transitory and what lies ahead is the promised utopia they have been plotting for decades? They talked their way out of responsibility for the Covid vaccines, so anything is possible.


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Puszczyk
Puszczyk
2 years ago

Radosław Sikorski, whose tweet (celebrating NS blow-up) Zman reposted on Gab, is a former Foreign Affairs Minister of my country. It may be interesting to some, but he was secretly caught on tape admitting that Poland is giving Americans “blowjobs” free of charge and the entire alliance is essentially worthless. It was before the Ukrainian crisis of 2014.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
2 years ago

The smallhats are incredibly vindictive, yes?

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Dennis Roe
2 years ago

“The smallhats are incredibly vindictive, yes?”

But the czar was so mean to their ancestors! Try to be understanding!

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

This comes from Revovver News. There is an illuminating map showing the proximity of both of the Nordstream pipelines to the military exercise from June of this year that accompanies the story.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1574768132069130240.html

It doesn’t get much more blatant than this does it?

Other links are to be found at Revolver worthy of a look on this topic, currently right at the top. Wow.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Well, based on Biden’s comments from early February 2022 it’s obvious that they’d already planned this op out and briefed him on it in detail beforehand. I faintly recall people laughing them off as demented ramblings at the time. I suppose this is the value of having a senile sock puppet behind the Resolute Desk. They certainly could have placed some type of explosive charges under the cover of those exercises in June. The only wrinkle is what kind of inspection and monitoring regime might have been in place on the Nord Stream pipelines between June and now. Looking at… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Biden always couldn’t resist blurting out secrets when he got belligerent, and he’s become *slightly* more belligerent since he hit full sponge-brain.

This is how we know there’s a plan to outlaw the Republican party before the 2024 election. And it does appear to be proceeding.

B125
B125
2 years ago

Is anybody else starting to wonder if the war is really not against Russia, but against Europe & Europeans? So far the main consequences from the war has been destruction of European economies. The blunders have been so catastrophic for Europe that I have a hard time finding it to be incompetence, even while applying Occam’s razor. Russia has no incentive to win the war, the longer it goes on, the better they will do. The UK is having a meltdown, with economic collapse and the new bimbo PM is promising to bring in more immigrants. The EU has been… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Its been obvious for months.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

B125: “Is anybody else starting to wonder if the war is really not against Russia, but against Europe & Europeans?”

trumpton: “Its been obvious for months.”

Insert cackling hand-rubbing meme here.

For at least two thousand and twenty two years [as of December 25th], it’s been one long never-ending war against White people.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

If the US government is responsible for this terrorist action, a whole new front in Nuremberg criminality has been opened. Gee, I wonder who hates Germans and Germany almost as much as Russia – Hmm…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Why can’t it be both?

NATO was always about keeping Germany down, Russia out and America in.

Love them or hate them (I hate them), the neocons are doing just that over the past six months.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

IMO the real point of the war is keeping the European provinces on the plantation. They were drifting off in their own direction. Which was a threat to the GAE. You’ve gotta hand it to the regime. This is pretty much a no lose proposition for them. Best case they break Russia up and start absorbing it into the evil empire. Worst case, the Russians win decisively and kick off Cold War II. Most likely outcome is a bleeding open wound that drags on for the foreseeable future. All three scenarios bind the Euros more tightly to the GAE. And… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Dinodoxy
2 years ago

As each Euro leader knows, if it objects to the slapping, it gets the color revolution.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Dinodoxy
2 years ago

There is also the element that the empire is collapsing and they are lashing out. Maybe a white pill in there. I’m sure nobody will believe that this sabotage wasn’t done by the US. No other countries has the means and motivation.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

Biden made a direct overt terrorist threat

” Pres. Biden: “If Russia invades…then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

Reporter: “But how will you do that, exactly, since…the project is in Germany’s control?”

Biden: “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged#comment-stream

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Well, there you go again, to borrow a phrase from the past. The Pants Shitter in Chief just can’t residt the feeling he gets when bragging about how much of a bad ass he is. It’s one of his most endearing traits.

And the world takes notice and thinks about how nice it would be to be rid of this terrorist state.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Dinodoxy
2 years ago

There’s one more component: decarbonization. It is the pretext to limit food and fuel to Europeans, anyhow, and some of the tyrants actually may believe in it (the NPC’s do). As you write, this has been a win/win for the Empire. The main objective, to retain Europe as a vassal, was sort of accomplished early on, and the sabotage of the pipelines perhaps sealed the deal. Still, there was a massive German demonstration against the fuel sanctions yesterday (the timing here is no coincidence), and one of the larger left-wing parties in the governing coalition has split over the issue.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Barbara Spectre is in charge of the entire operation!! What was that song – Wrecking Ball? Seems appropriate to have a bunch of drag queens operating the machines smashing up Europe any which way you can imagine.

The British finance minister is already filling the Internet with snazzy photos.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

If not the Europeans, the Russians, the Chinese, or the Middle Easterns, does America have any friends left in the world? Does anyone who trust her? I know at least 75 million American who don’t.

Israel maybe?

Vizzini
Member
2 years ago

“The question that is never asked, but may turn out to be the most important, is why has it taken so long for economic data to turn sour? Shuttering wide swaths of the economy to fight the flu should have triggered a massive recession. Expanding the money supply through massive credit creation should have resulted in massive price hikes and many asset bubbles. The policies of the last three years should have brought disaster, but here we are with only the threat of disaster.” “Should … should … should …” Because the model is not the real world and the… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

“why has it taken so long for economic data to turn sour?” There’s always some lag. But this particular downturn was gov’t created/gov’t enforced and accompanied by a full-court press of cheer-leading by the regime media allies. Many of them became much wealthier as a result. While many folks lost all they had built.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

The most important metric of all is the U.S. 10 year bond, now coming up on 4%. The 30 year fixed mortgage is now nearing 7%. The U.S. obliterated what was left of the real domestic economy by about 2006. This mall is run on cheap credit. It can’t exist on expensive credit. Everyone is betting that the Fed will “do its job.” And when exactly have they done that since 1981? They haven’t, they won’t, and they have 31trillion reasons not to do so. So they’re doing just enough to throw the place into recession while not doing enough… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

re Fed:

Holding the increases to .75 are absolute proof of what you wrote. There will be another of that exact amount, and then a smaller one. If this were serious, they would be 100 basis points back to back until it no longer was necessary. But, as you point, there are 31 trillions reasons not to do so. We are screwed.

Veeze
Veeze
2 years ago

Probably a stupid question, but I ask it with all sincerity…

Is it possible for the deep state, managerial class, whatever, to put their thumb on the scale of the major stock indicies?

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Veeze
2 years ago

Is that a piss take question?

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Veeze
2 years ago

They did by lowering rates to effectively negative. They could go further as Japan has and start buying the stock market. They already by distressed debt assets. So, yes. They already do and they may well buy equities – even if in stealth.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  Veeze
2 years ago

You don’t actually believe that black rock and the like are really investing money that people saved, do you?

Seriously, at least 2/3 of the stock market’s capitalization is the result of money creation – not investment.

Vxxc
Vxxc
2 years ago

Both Nordstream pipelines just blew in 3 places. It seems to have been under-reported, pending the Official Facts no doubt. We are making war on our allies to punish them for the elections in Sweden and Italy. Democracy is under assault when the demos votes wrong. We’ll no doubt be sanctioned this winter if the GOP takes Congress. Economics is the politics of money. Sanctions are war by money. Indeed sanctions were regarded as acts of war until the Rules Based International Order (USA TM) arrived. Normally we just betray our allies. Going to war with our allies a true… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Vxxc
2 years ago

It looks like they now realize people are noticing the US is by far the most likely suspect, as its the action of a 3rd party not in control of the pipeline, and a couple of German papers are now releasing coordinated stories that the CIA was warning Germany about a possible attack. Obviously does not say by whom, but the implication is obvious. Because obviously Russia, even though the could just stop putting the stuff in the pipe, decided to run a sub into Norwegian and Danish waters and blow up their own pipelines to cut off their funds… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

“Because obviously Russia, even though the could just stop putting the stuff in the pipe, decided to run a sub into Norwegian and Danish waters and blow up their own pipelines to cut off their funds and do it in European waters so no repair vessels could be used.”

Well, they did spend weeks trying to convince us that Russia was bombing a nuke plant it already occupied.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Funny I mentioned Operation Gladio yesterday.

Nato countries attacking Nato countries.

It would have been easier to just off 1 or more of the wavering politicians, rather than attacking your allies in such a public way as a message.

I suppose it shows the EU govts that the US is full on mental/mafia and they better not step out of line.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

The German paper thing is interesting as it would seem to indicate that someone(s) in the German government isn’t all that happy with GAE at the moment.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

The main issue, unspoken, is, will Germany, CAN Germany, be Germany again?

There is so much for the territory we call “Germany”, or rather the people whose ancestors have lived there for centuries, to gain from an entente with Russia that I almost can’t believe it hasn’t happened already. But maybe Entnazifizierung really works.

Whoever runs Biden certainly wants to try deMAGAfication here at home.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Vxxc
2 years ago

Ray charles report. Rsy sees major shooting war soon very soon.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Vxxc
2 years ago

It’s not so much a punishment for the elections, as it’s an attempt to make Europe an American client state. The EU is precluded from buying Russian gas this winter, and won’t be able to get nearly as much fertilizer (and guess which North American country exports tons of food). Incapable of making a deal with Russia and more dependent on American exports? Sounds like a win-win for the regime.

c matt
c matt
2 years ago

They didn’t talk their way out of the COVID “vaccines” as much as bullied their way out of it. As long as they have power no doubt they will try to bully their way out of whatever mess they create. But trying that with something that can resist (Russia , China, laws of economics) may not go so well . . .for any of us.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

Is Russia really resisting in the way people think? It appears that they are enabling the plans against Europe quite well. They have sat on their assess for months, allowed complete regroup and supply and are letting massive build ups and offensives occur without re-enforcing their own lines one bit if the maps are to be believed. The Russian telegram channels are full of WTF is going on type comments. The pictures they shoe are all small numbers of men or rusted equipment, smoke in the distance etc. Take the partial call up. So Russia has supposedly 1 million or… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Russia has time as well as seemingly countless supplies of ammo and armaments, both crude and advanced Ukraine, EU, and USA don’t. Recent articles say our western supplies and conventional arms would last no more than 3 weeks in case of a direct war with Russia. Three weeks, tops. I don’t think this is scripted at all but just a case where Russia has completely outfoxed us and is watching us hang ourselves. as the saying goes, why stop the enemy when he’s committing suicide? If this isn’t a testament to white supremacy or more specifically Russo supremacy, nothing is.… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

The collective West is learning that, “just-in-time,” is a terrible idea when it comes to maintaining military inventories.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Particularly so if any significant proportion of your military needs are dependent upon foreign sources, and especially if your “leaders” are going out of their way to antagonize those from whom they source these components or raw materials. Good God, how fucking, abjectly stupid are these people? And looking ahead, as much of our import, as well as export, commerce travels the sealanes, with the Navy’s ability to keep those lanes open if international conflicts escalate to overtly military means has come into serious question, then what? Madness, actually a psychotic break with reality, seems to be the only feasible… Read more »

Mr C
Mr C
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Good post my friend.

Be careful on Russo supremacy. Enjoy the schadenfreude but Russia has their own issues. Reports were they came down hard in line w Covid mania.

It’s a fight we should have never started and likely deserve a bloody nose for. Putin is not going to ride over here, shirtless on horseback, to un-woke our border less trade zone.

I’m hoping for a quick resolution with lessons learned for the West. As far as our shores are concerned, I see no current end to these troubles.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hbjIqmuQjU

Someone at this site posted this link about two weeks ago … don’t recall who posted it, but this provides a good synopsis from Scott Ritter, who certainly doesn’t follow the approved narrative.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

It’s always possible it’s scripted. But Putin/Russia strike me as chess players rather than video gamers. Prefer the long term gaming out of things rather than flash bang blow it all up and move to next target. This war is on Russia’s timeline, not ours. The methodical pace with game time adjustments is not inconsistent with the objectives of creating buffer states on your border and minimizing repair costs.

US strategy is usually smash into submission for extraction of wealth or to toe the GAE line in far away places. Different goals, different strategies.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

I’m hardly a historian, but from what I’ve gathered the reason Russia purchases the Ukraine back in the day was because it was resource rich and fairly habitable. It may be the case that Russia is more concerned with reclaiming Ukraine than subduing it, in the hopes that they can make use of it’s resources. Whether this feasible is obviously to be determined. Now, I do not know with certainty if this is Russia’s goal, I’m merely pointing out that it could be, and that it would track with their observed behavior thus far.

Compsci
Compsci
2 years ago

“… we see in the ruling class is the unspoken understanding that they are unessential…”

I might also add we have seen that much of the private sector—whatever that means these days—is *also* unessential during the Covid lockdowns. Here the most glaring example are with public school teachers. Yes, the typical student, mostly minority, is now hopelessly behind—estimated at 2 years. However, this must be compared to students from families that care about education, mostly White, who have not declined at all through the efforts of their parents and extended community.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Teachers (as currently constituted) are a net negative on society and school is fake and gay. The field and institution have been captured for a long time. We have kids with 75 IQ “graduating” high school.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Tars, there you go again…always looking at the bright side of things. 😉 We have college graduates with sub 100 IQ’s graduating—and I’m not talking just football and basketball players.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

I have no doubt one could slip through a top-level African-American Studies doctoral program with an IQ of 90. And I suspect many do.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

Ibram X. Kendi confirms.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

I think it was Audacious Epigony who posted a proxy (SAT, ASVAB) study of IQ comparisons between college graduates and US Army combat infantry. The college time series started out (20 years ago?) at 112 or so and steadily declined to 102.5, iirc. Army score was 105. I’m sure the cognitive capability of both has dropped since then given that both have undergone intensified diversification. It’s not most college grads <100 IQ, but it's close.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Horace
2 years ago

I swear I’ve seen a similar study done on USMC officers.

That study indicated the IQ of their officer corps had dropped 10 or 15 points since the 80s.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Horace
2 years ago

I have read discussions from academics, whom I respect, that have an pegged an IQ as low as 104 to get some sort of a degree from college. Of course, they are not talking STEM majors, but really—any degree program or even college admittance at the level of IQ 104?

It boggles the mind, but perhaps that’s just me. I graduated 50 years ago.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

The education industry including atheletics is a sink of money and people. They have failed at their job and ought to be demolished.It would never happen but I’d like to see all sports cancelled and facilities torn down, coaches fired and everyone, administrators and teachers too, involved forced to pay back all the money they’ve wasted over the years.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

The inflation is a long term problem they cannot talk their way out of, at least eventually. It’s been at least 25 years of major money printing and asset bubbles. Have we ever trebled the debt in 12 years before? As bad as our inflation has been, a lot of our inflation has gone abroad. Has any bubble ever been as big as the bubbles (plural) we have going on today and on a worldwide scale? Housing went up 40% in 3 years. An unprecedented serial bubbles in the same sector. What I don’t understand is how the fed thinks… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

What if they don’t intend to fix any of it?

If you want to push through digital currency on the entire west (world) at once then you sort of need to do what they did to the reichmark and collapse the currency and paper asset model, but on a world scale this time.

Perhaps its confusing as what we are seeing is just the end of the looting phase so they can convert to physical assets before this happens?

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

It’s always bothered me that they appointed a guy named Powell to the Federal Reserve after a lifetime of guys named some derivative of “Cohen” A native fall guy so nobody named “Cohen” is at the helm when it collapses. They don’t want the proles to notice. Noticing is bad and causes antisemitism and racism and we wouldn’t want anyone being racist.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Powell’s appointment was one of the funnier moments of the Trump Administration. Pres. Trump kept putting forth candidates that weren’t Jewish, and they would shriek and find something wrong with them. Trump: “Here’s a nice African. He’s smart and qualified. (and he was) You say you love diversity, so .. you’re welcome!” Jews: “No! No! NO! We want ….. We want ….” Trump: “Yeeeessss. What do you want? Spell it out for me now.” I think Powell is in there because Trump wouldn’t nominate a Jew, and the latter accepted Powell because they still owned senior management and they could… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Digital currency requires lots of cheap and abundant energy — not to mention a functioning economy

I think they can kiss those dreams goodbye

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Same goes for their global digital spider web.

That’s not going to run on solar and wind. No way.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

I wonder of you could have a sort of official energy grid for the govt/”essential corps” (as they see it), still run off traditional means and then everyone else using this nonsense.

What sort of granularity is there in routing power around now?

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Want to watch their heads explode? Ask them how we are going to ship cotton in containers to China and how they’ll ship back the socks and underwear. All of this in solar powered ships. These things burn through 150 TONS (300 gallons to the ton) of bunker fuel a day. They are pretty efficient too, like 50% thermal efficiency. They all support the globalist agenda of free trade and open borders. So they cannot oppose global free trade. OTOH, they want us to dramatically reduce our “carbon emissions” and an obvious way to do that is to stop all… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

There you go again Tars. We don’t need oil fueled ships. All we need is to convert those co2 behemoths to *sails*. Wind driven, that’s the ticket. We did it before, we can do it again! 😉

orsotoro2011
orsotoro2011
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Nah. There will be less energy overall, but what there is will go to the military, government agencies and allies. The ones with less will be the rest of us.

Our weapon is that these systems are operating in the physical space, and therefore are vulnerable to Ned Ludd. Their cost of upkeep may be more than the system can bear.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

This is actually mostly a reply to Tars’ post below. I think the puzzle for people is trying to reconcile globalized trade and immigration boosterism with all the hang wringing and virtue signalling over “carbon footprints” for instance. Aren’t these contradictory goals? Well they would be – if they were the actual goals. What the global elite has instead of goals though, is a set of pretexts. One or several of them can be brandished at any moment to justify whatever the real objectives are. There’s no real unifying vision behind any of it. The current elites also have a… Read more »

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

The idea of raising interest rates far enough to end the inflation is laughable. They will have continued inflation while making it look like they are “doing something”. It’s negative real rates as far as the eye can see

trackback
2 years ago

[…] ZMan looks behind the curtain. […]

Falcone
Falcone
2 years ago

I remember during the Bush years and their war on Islam, I’d ask myself “If we were truly at war would Bush be leaving the southern border wide open?” In war you would close it to keep enemies from easily penetrating your borders But the border was wide open, thus I had to conclude we were not really at war. All lies. Incidentally when my hatred of GW began to grow in earnest. Today we are seeing acts of desperation that only come when a warring side is losing. Destruction of political dissidents, sabotage of pipelines, billions in money and… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

War on the native/heritage populations of The West.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

> sabotage of pipelines

Honest question, if there was undeniable proof the U.S. intentionally damaged the pipeline, would Europe change course, or would this be a U.S.S. Liberty type incident where politicians sweep it under a rug?

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Is it too difficult to realize that the US is at war with European people and the European politicians are all fully on board with and are active in this.?

All 3 pipelines sabotaged on the same night within 10 miles of each other at a place needing a sub to access just after Hungary said they were going to run a referendum on sanctions and to prevent any country being able to roll back sanctions.

Seems pretty clear cut.

WildStar
WildStar
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Well, they’re at war with the American people too. This was never the usual interstate type of war; this has always been a war of the cloud people against the dirt people. Our only hope is that enough of the dirt people catch on.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I don’t know what Europe is going to do (governments) but I would not want to be an American tourist in Europe any time soon.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Relax.

Castreau just opened up Canada so we can enjoy skiing at Lake Louise rather than Zermatt.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Yeah, I’ve held up booking a trip to Italy next Spring for that very reason. The rage would be justified, and I would be an understandable target.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Yeah, it does take something out of the experience. I was there during Vietnam, folks would recognize us and shout insult from across the street. Only warm reception on the continent was in Germany. Many Germans went out of their way to speak of the treatment they received from American soldiers and such after the war.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Not the two million dead from Eisenhowers little 1946-8 genocide.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Nonsense. Show references. But there were deaths, but not even close to your ridiculous number. We treated Germans, and their pow’s sent over here quite well—and raping their women as punishment and perk was never an American thing, just Russian.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Wikipedia has quite a few rGerman govt references to the post war numbers:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)#Human_losses

German govt and the Red Cross officially still maintains about 2 million dead was the correct figure.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

No.

Battered wife syndrome applies to countries as well as wives, apparently.

Europe is America’s “batch”. The US can slap Europe around, sober up, then apologize and promise to do better….then do it again next weekend.

What’s Europe going to do? Appeal to the Chinese or Russians to get away from the US?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Honest answer: probably not. There is no doubt the European “leadership” at a minimum is complicit and knows that the sabotage was at the hands of the US and possibly the UK. Would proof/evidence, if such were irrefutable, be allowed to be presented to the public? It would be suppressed, and your USS Liberty analogy is a good one. Social media and obviously the more traditional state propaganda organs will stomp on any reference to such proof if it emerges. If by some miracle the information were to become widespread, Europeans might at least demand a change in course. I… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

There never was a war on Islam.

There was a war on Europe and the US which consisted of using the military to funnel massive numbers of people over to the home countries from the area they were supposedly invading.

Its the same playbook as the vietnam/afghan wars which were to run the drug trade. The Islam actions were to ensure the huge flow of people into the west.

Without these wars it would have been impossible to do this.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Yep. Exhibit A and B would be the murder of Gaddafi and the rise of ISIS. Apparently, the population of Syria and no one noticed it.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

This is something that I find interesting and I have never seen asked. So these millions of new people in the west from these areas. How did they get here in such a short time scale? I mean really think about this, its not like A) they can afford the airfares or be able to board without visas en masse B) they did not all walk from the middle east across thousands of miles and tens of countries C) its not like those countries were running hundreds of scheduled flights or ships. So how did it happen physically? On the… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Was there ever a supposedly official number on “displaced Syrians?” I never saw it. Here, we get claims of two million border jumpers, and additional claims of Honduras and Salvador being just about emptied out. Also here, how did two million or ten million or whatever trek across 2,000 miles up through Mexico and not have a fleck of dust on them?

This is the real war, and it is unilateral outside of Russians struggling not to be replaced.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

The border crossers down at the Southern border backpack a clean set of cloths. I’ve patrolled the border and the desert outside of the main US towns/highways are full of “jump off” points were the IA’s await their transportation to interior American cities. These points are littered with used clothing and backpacks and water jugs indicating where the group stopped, reorganized, cleaned up, and waited for their pickup and drive into the main American cities of destination. Of course, this was before de facto open borders. Now I suspect the bulk are driven through MX and other Central American countries… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

The last illusion of the American people re: border security should have fallen by the way when team “R” held the WH/Congress/Senate for 2 years under 45 and they refused to allocate $5B for a border wall* or any increase in funding for interior enforcement. They also went out of their way to pass legislation to prohibit any of the wall prototypes from being built.
The present situation is what they want. “Actions,” as you say . . .
*Compare to how much $$$ they have sent to Ukraine!

3g4me
3g4me
2 years ago

The insanity of people ‘fleeing’ to the world’s ‘reserve currency’ is what I find the most bemusing. Futures for almost every agricultural product are soaring, bonds and currencies and stocks are dropping, factories are closing, and yet . . . the fiat dollar soars while metals drop?!! I, obviously, just don’t have the proper mindset to be a captain of industry, nor a financial/stock trader. Obviously we surrender a sufficient quantity of fiat currency to the banks’ tender care in order to pay our bills. But we’ve been busy exchanging numerous fiat bucks for tangible assets – things we anticipate… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Another classic on inflation is When Money Dies.

Based on the action in the fiat currency realm, it looks like the guy who came up with the, “Dollar Milkshake Theory,” got his call right.

It really does look as though the USD will fail upward until it is the last man standing.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: The quotes from the Austrian woman’s book are from “When Money Dies.” Both books were the subject of the post.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

If you haven’t seen this you might enjoy it:

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Mr. House
2 years ago

Mr. House – I’d always suspected there was a turning point in the world beyond just my graduating high school AD1971. These charts seem to give evidence of that.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

The dollar is used to settle ~80% of global trade transactions. A similar amount of the world’s debt is denominated in dollars. The dollar is the global currency. We may printed (via deficits) a lot of dollars during Covid, but other countries printed even more relative to the use of their currencies. We don’t just print dollars for the US economy but for the world economy. Right now, there is a severe dollar shortage, and that’s usually a very bad sign. Dollars are created by commercial bank NOT the Federal Reserve. When banks hold back dollars, it’s because they’re scared.… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Citizen, it may have been you I had mentioned this to some months back, but there is a lot of cash sitting on the sidelines in the case of deep bank reserves and corporate holdings.

Not out of the realm of possibility that the Gov either forces the banks to start pumping it into the economy and/or confiscates it from the corporations. I can already see Tim Cook showing the world the face he makes when he’s getting reamed and hear all the Apple shareholders wailing.

and all the 401K’s?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Citizen: I’m aware of the utility of the dollar in the current global economic system. What I’m questioning is the stability/durability of said system (its values are an entirely different can of excreta). Again, the usefulness of exporting US debt and having a monopoly on a global store of value is obvious. But people entrusting their wealth to pieces of paper backed by the purported US government and economy because said tottering economy is seen as a bastion of stability? To me that is normalcy bias on steroids. My concern is not with what is useful to the GAE and… Read more »

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

3gforme
Sounds like small hat smoke & mirrors scam to me.
Economic bullying, shameful imo.
Sooner or latet a small kid knocks the bully down.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Yeah, but it’s the only system that we have at the moment. It’s deeply flawed, but there it is. But, yes, it can’t last. Covid moved us much closer to the end game. The govt debt is now problematic due to its size and inflation. Govts are trapped. You can see that in Japan and Europe. I still think that we’re a crisis or two away from this blowing up. As to what “blowing up” looks like, I have no clue. The debt (household, business, financial and govt) needs to be reduced relative to GDP. It’s simply too high to… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Citizen: I wouldn’t want to be a landlord in today’s market – not after the government froze evictions and people didn’t pay for months. And now fewer people can afford to buy houses or pay increasing rent. Blue chip stocks may weather the storm, if one considers this just another economic recession. As you note, this has to come apart. Precisely how or when, I wouldn’t begin to predict. And I realize the market can remain irrational longer than the average individual can remain solvent. But all your investment suggestions depend on one believing AINO will last out the decade… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

So we are in a “war” with the whole GD world? 🙁

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Yes. We are.

We just blew up Europe’s access to cheap nat gas. They no longer have the choice to lift the sanctions. We literally just attacked our allies. It’s comical.

If we’ll sabotage our allies’ economies, you can bet that we’ll do a lot more to neutral countries and, of course, any country we don’t like.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

The level of confidence you would have to have that you owned the govts of Europe to do this is huge, and shows how much control those using the US as a weapon actually have globally.

Its sort of depressing to accept its that far gone.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

trumpton,

I agree. We literally just bitch slapped Europe in front of the whole world. It’d be slapping your girlfriend in front of her parents.

Even if the Europeans wanted to keep the sanctions, they should be losing their $hit about this – and publicly. But crickets so far. What a bunch of pussies.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Europe is pathetic.

In a few short decades we have gone from major powers to feminine vassal states of any and all globalist orgs.

The only response to an act of war is going to be “please sir, can I have some more”

Its the piggy squeal scene in deliverance on an international stage.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

Sorry for the downvote, Trumpton. I plead fat phone finger. Yes, indeed, it is atunning how far gone things seem to have gotten. But the evil that the US power elite get up to is not a recent phenomenon. Here is a link that was left at Larry Johnson’s site, a transcript of a former CIA man’s lecture, John Stockwell, from nack in the 1980s detailing some of the deeds of the CIA before and during that time frame. Rather long, sometimes he loops back over ground earlier covered – probably a goid technique for a lecture – but holy… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Every spare penny I have is going to buy tangible assets and anything that will help my family to survive for a good while

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Hear, hear. It is infinitely better to have a generator, for example, than double the dollars it costs. As for precious metals, the most precious metal to own is lead because those tangible assets will need protection.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Yep.
Lots of it in every denomination even if you do not happen to “spend” a particular type someone will.:

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Got a generator on order !

c matt
c matt
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Well, fleeing to reserve currency makes more sense than fleeing from the US to Europe. At least from a shtf point of view, seems Europe is ground zero. Don’t get these folks from the US seeking European passports.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Hey, I can get you a great deal on tulip bubs, if you’re interested.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Another good book is
When Money Dies: The Nightmare of the Weimar Hyper-inflation
by Adam Fergusson

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

The, “New Economy”, is propped up by a wealth effect that is predicated on repatriated dollars from producing countries coming in to fund a conveyor belt of eyeball capturers, with the occasional value adding enterprise in the mix. The Boomer die-off is upon them and the pensions and liabilities cannot be paid. They want this inflation, unless it is during an election cycle. They are going to lurch around from deflationary to inflationary episodes. What matters is that the average rate of inflation drifts ever higher so they can liquidate the debts and deprive the retirees of I think a… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
2 years ago

Sometimes what the MSM doesn’t talk about is more instructive than what they do talk about.

I can’t remember the last time they even mentioned the enormous unfunded liability crisis in the collective West.

But don’t worry, because local college kids are selling, “Sunflowers for Ukraine.”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
2 years ago

The main problem for the economy (both US and global) is debt, demographics and inflation. Economic growth is just productivity gains plus % increase in new workers. Productivity gains have fallen to ~1%. New workers are flat to ~1% in developed markets and even now in China. (India’s population is also leveling off.) That means that the world is looking at 1.5% to 2.0% real GDP growth, maybe less. Debt levels are ~350% of GDP. We don’t have enough growth to service that debt. The only way that you keep the debt from collapsing is to keep interest rates low.… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
2 years ago

I’m not so sure they’ve necessarily talked their way out of responsibility for covid and the “vaccine”. Right now, it’s simply being ignored, and of course, not reported on in the lamestream media. But a lot of guys are doing yeoman’s work to bring light to the truth: Malone, Kirsch, Crawford, Eugyppius, McCullough among others, etc. Granted, they don’t have the very public bullhorn, but good stuff is getting out there. Young people keeling over constantly (when it’s never happened like this before), leaving the doctors “baffled”, is only going lead even the dimmest bulbs to begin questioning wtf is… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

The Malhotra fellow that works as a cardiologist in the UK who did a total 180 on the injections seems to be a tipping point for them.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

This isn’t over. The loudest voices, Kirsch, McCullough, etc won’t shut up and are only getting louder, and now they’re joined by more, some who were previously jab promoters.

The rates for cancer, myocarditis, miscarriages, and many more are off the charts and can only be swept under the carpet for so long. There’s always a tipping point where those who were intimidated into silence will stand up and speak out.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

Another small whitepill on the jabs-

Since I’ve mismanaged my personal life I still frequent the dating apps.

Remember all the cute, “I’m Jabbed!” profile badges they were crowing about last year?

Except for the most obviously whacked out Leftist profiles, those jab badges have vanished like dust in the wind.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

The ones who had the badges are probably just mostly dead.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Is that good, though? The “I’m jabbed!” profile badge was a bright, flashing light for you.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Should spike protein be considered an STD, or whatever they call them these days?

Seriously, I’ve wondered about so-called vaccine shedding. Sounds to me the vaxx operates like a virus, but as long as it’s only programming cells to produce spike protein, it should just be a matter of purebloods limiting exposure, right? Iow, you might get a dose and get sick, but your body won’t start producing it. I sure hope so, anyhow.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Paintersforms-

Thank you for the perfect setup to reiterate an odd definition Naomi Wolf’s readers found in the Pfizer doc-dump.

In the docs, Pfizer defined “exposure” to the vaccine to include intercourse, particularly around conception.

There was also a recent paper that confirmed nursing mothers can pass mRNA to their infant via breast milk.

That adds an ominous touch to the ongoing formula shortage.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

I think the mRNA vaccines are getting encoded back into the DNA of the host via reverse transcriptase. Supposedly the vaccine wasn’t supposed to spread past the injection site, but they’re finding it in other parts of the body.

So while spike protein itself causes inflammation, it’s say your heart being genetically engineered by the vaccine to produce the inflammatory agent that’s causing the trouble.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Ploppy:

Sounds like they’re meddling in things they don’t fully understand. What a clusterfuck.

Selfishly, as long as my risk is exposure to the protein and not full-blown ‘infection’, that’s all I’m hoping for at this point.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Wild Geese:

Yeah that’s disquieting. My first thought is that there’s genetic material all over the environment (in the food you eat, for instance, especially raw), so that doesn’t necessarily pose a big threat on its own. Now, if it comes with the goods to infiltrate cells, that’s chilling. IF my memory is still good on this stuff. I’d be interested to know that information.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Plus, remember the term ‘viral load’? How big a dose and how viable matter. Complex stuff, sucks there are so many questions.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

If they ever admit to problems with the “vaccine”, it will all be pinned on Trump, it was him who forced Phizer to rush it to market so he could win the election

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

And for all the European countries?

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Europe is full of right thinking people too, its all Trumps fault, and Putin helped him too, no doubt, did you see that Vlad is now sabotaging our gas pipelines, no end to his evil

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

You got it (((They))). People keep stating that “this will be the One” that will wake Normie. Not. Going. To. Happen. Russian collusion in 2016. How many young people died in bull sh$% wars the past 20 years? How many parents are lopping off their kids genitals? The problem is people have no attention span. Their brains are so riddle with dopamine that they can only swing from stimulus to stimulus, and they can perceive nothing in the past that requires sustained recognition of patterns. The vaccine is already a fading memory. People honestly believe that the average buffoon is… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Eloi
2 years ago

Exactly.

The idea that justice will come as it fades into as you say for most is the non-existent past is laughable.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

That’s why he won’t be President again. They can arrest him on anything they could cook up, and I’d bet millions would write him in. The vaxx, though? 2 years is a long time for that to sink in.

mikey
mikey
2 years ago
The Greek
The Greek
2 years ago

The amount fraudulent economic numbers is absurd in this country. As I, and many others have mentioned numerous times on here, the Boskin commission changed the formula for CPI in the mid 90s so that the number came out much more rosy for the government, and so they wouldn’t have to give big COLA raises to social security recipients. Under the old calculations, our CPI is roughly double what the “official” rate is, which feels closer to the truth. I’ll add another one though that we hear about all the time in the media as the primary reason we still… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  The Greek
2 years ago

Add the dishonest changing of the CPI and unemployment numbers to the list of the Clinton Administration’s “accomplishments.”

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  The Greek
2 years ago

Another factor is that at least 1-2% of the working age population has been killed or disabled by the vax…something they don’t want to admit…

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 years ago

“Quiet quitting,” the news calls it.

America’s supposedly baffling lack of available workers has two obvious and forbidden explanations: Pay has so badly failed to match real inflation that “wagie” jobs aren’t worth doing anymore, and some huge number of young people are dead.

The borders haven’t been thrown open to replace “voters,” exactly.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 years ago

> One possible source of the paranoid terror we see in the ruling class is the unspoken understanding that they are unessential. Their pompous self-regard is a mask concealing a deep fear that the Dirt People might figure out that the Cloud People are just an expensive ornament. Went into the office a couple of weeks ago even though management decided to start a mask mandate…. again. I walked in, maskless, and there were literally three people in the building that can house a hundred. Unfortunately, one of the people was the secretary, who browbeat me for not wearing a… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

“A lot of the social upheaval is done by useless eaters who somehow end up being well-paid busybodies that everyone has to dance around.”

But they’re not useless eaters, for the very reason you mention. It is through them that the State plays it’s tune of enforcement and compulsion.

As we’re all aware, such ‘useful idiots’ are two-a-penny in tyrannical societies. Of course, in practical terms, they most certainly are useless.

And just where is your mask, Sir?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Had to attend an offsite meeting last week. Yesterday get a note to effect of “an undisclosed person at the meeting tested positive for Coof, therefore you are not allowed in the office for two weeks”. So the insanity continues.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

There is no end to these retarded cocksuckers.

Eventually they will wear you down just by the endless sea of stupidity you have to swim in every day.

The shore never seems to get any nearer.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  SamlAdams
2 years ago

But the quarantine of 14 days does not even follow the current CDC guideline. It’s 5 days if no symptoms. I was asked to quarantine 10 days past first symptom and a positive test in early 2021.

That’s what is frustrating, not the stay home order. Hell, I’d stay home with the flu or a cold. Reasonable people don’t inflict their diseases upon others. But, if you (corporate) are going to play doctor, then at least follow current medical guidance.

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

Never underestimate the venality of the Ruling Class. If things get bad enough, they will simply implement the “Samson Event” by creating total chaos. While we’re all screaming and attempting to get things back under control, they sneak out the back with their loot.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

Where will they go? They have ruined almost every desirable place to live on earth. What is left for them to ruin?

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

You must also never underestimate the AMOUNT of ruin present in a nation.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

Tel Aviv? – With US foreign aid and MIC cooperation they have the Iron Dome. – Some of the most expensive real estate in the world – A massive wall with guards who shoot invaders in the knees – Deportation, immigration control and citizenship policies bent on maintaining their ethnos and religion for them and them alone – A vassal state that while failing, still has plenty of ruin in it to give them time to find a new world power vassal to get rich off of. For the Unqualified Enablers: Vermont; Connecticut; upstate and Long Island NY; Indonesia and… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

I think they expected it to be China, but they don’t seem to be willing to run the opium wars again.

If they manage to depopulate Ukraine there is a big open space waiting for a new population.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

Outside of posturing and empty rhetoric, not one single substantive hostile thing has been done to China. I strongly suspect all the supposed friction is kabuki.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Yep I agree. A new phoney cold war looks likely. The thing is China against what?

A non-hydrocarbon de-industrialized slave block?

The only thing they will have is people and will be a threat to no one but their own population.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

I hear Epstein Island is redone and lovely all year round.

Ponsonby
Member
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

Last I heard it was on the market for $125m. The photos were carefully shot to avoid that weird little temple, or perhaps the first “repair” was tearing it down….

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
2 years ago

Destroying both Nord Stream pipelines seems like the junior, “Sampson Option.”

The only part of Europe that *might* be decent is the Iberian Penninsula since they get the bulk of their gas from Algeria.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

I’d be rather hopeful if that was all they got from Algeria, old chap.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Europe can’t change its mind this winter if the pipelines are blown. I’d either say it was us or perhaps we helped the Ukrainians.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Mr. House
2 years ago

You guys remember back in 2013 or 2014 when Obama wanted to put boots on the ground in Syria cause Assad a bad man? Whispers at the time was that ISIS and others were formed as an excuse to get involved because the Syrians with Russian support were stopping NATO from creating a new pipeline thru syria to europe. This has been going on for ages, but you can’t tell that to someone who supports the current thing.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mr. House
2 years ago

Try on the Poles for size. 1) A.pathological hatred for Russia 2) a near pathological hatred for Germany Thwart any possibility of a rapprochement with Western Europe, even if the people disavow their governments’ suicidal plans, thereby (in their idiotic computations) depriving the Bear of a plain as day victory. Oh, and remember that the Poles were making noises that the Germans owed them reparations (which if they ever got any would be immediately extorted from them by the little hats). Now they will get nothing, but the satisfaction of earning the hatred of Western Europeans for screwing all of… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Orange Frog: This. Spain has had its own ‘migrant crisis’ albeit with minimal mainstream publicity. Plenty of sub-Saharans wading ashore as Spanish beachgoers simply sit and watch. These vibrants add to Spain’s already hefty share of Mohammedans – far from a Reconquista, the peninsula appears to be morphing into a new Al-Andalus.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 years ago

“Shuttering wide swaths of the economy to fight the flu should have triggered a massive recession. Expanding the money supply through massive credit creation should have resulted in massive price hikes and many asset bubbles.” And this has indeed occurred. But this has been camouflaged by fabricating statistics and by fluid definitions, both of which you point out. The US is in a deepening economic crisis, which can never be openly acknowledged. Those who do talk about it are dissenters and dissidents and from there it’s a slippery slope to being called “domestic extremists” by the US government. The old… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

Actually i’d argue the Recession was already here at the end of 2019 and the flu happened as an excuse to print copious amounts of money which would have been seen in poor light otherwise. Do you guys think the FED would have been able to double its balance sheet in a few months time without the flu?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Mr. House
2 years ago

You are right. And the supply chains were already in trouble in 2019 (in the sense that for some reason things weren’t coming through). Plus we shouldn’t forget the Repo crisis that occurred shortly before the Covid hoax. The financial and supply chain systems were in trouble before the hoax; perhaps the hoax just provided a smokescreen for these problems.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Arshad Ali
2 years ago

Z Man: “Even so, you can only fake this stuff for so long. Providing fake data and false narratives is like check kiting…”
So, can the managerial elite of the GAE talk their way out of this?
The task of convincing people they aren’t actually hungry, or thirsty, or cold, or wet, or sick using fake data and false narratives will not be an easy one. Nevertheless, they’ll still try.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
2 years ago

“Even so, you can only fake this stuff for so long. Providing fake data and false narratives is like check kiting. It works initially, but eventually the gap between reality and the false narratives gets too broad to maintain.” Hmm. I’m not so sure, Z Man. You see, the Shamdemic was perhaps the most obvious piece of tyranny delivered upon the West for a long, long time. A lot of people were wise to it, but they were not given any airtime, of course. But so, so, so many bought it. And continue to buy it. I still think we’ve… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

I don’t think they would be able to pull off what they tried with Covid ever again without a huge mortality rate, at least over 20% of infections. Places that tried to institute restrictions this year were mostly ignored. People followed a herd mentality to it for the first year, but as they grew tired of the restrictions that obviously weren’t helping compliance declined.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Barnard
2 years ago

Barnard,

I thank the Lord that you’ve seen sutch things, as it does give me hope. I suppose it was much the same around here. But far too many still double down, and continue to think of it as an actual billion-person killing pandemic.

That said, I must disagree in the sense that I can see it being done again, and not too much worse than it was last time… and the masked herdes will amass and into our lives poure once again.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Exactly. The lesson for those on this side is: Reality does not matter. I know people on this side can’t still believe it, and still think it has some relationship to the way most people behave. However, reality does not matter. Worse, once you have established a behavior pattern, it is easier to get it to activate again, not more difficult. The media controls what people experience and feel is true directly. Not with persuasion, or influence, but direct implantation of behavior and opinions into the target’s neural structures. For most people there is no reality, they are modern day… Read more »

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

“Reality does not matter.”
Of course.
Diversity is our strength.
Pregnant men.