Coercion

The other day, a grotesquely overweight black woman was sent out onstage in her underwear to make noises with James Madison’s 200-year-old crystal flute. The item was a gift to James Madison in 1813 by the French flute maker Claude Laurent and has been kept locked away for decades. For reasons they never bothered to explain, the Library of Congress let this woman use it as a prop in her circus.

The most likely reason, of course, is antiwhite animus. Hating white people, especially those from the past, is a centerpiece of the new religion. The toppling of statues and vandalizing of culture items is something like a sacrament for them. Publicly flinging their poo at the works of the white man is a ritualistic break from the culture coercion from which they seek to liberate themselves.

That is what the show is about this week. One way to look at the great intellectual flowering in the West is as a quest for liberation, with liberation being defined as the elimination of coercion. The utopia on the other side of the revolution is a world where everyone gets to do whatever they want without the need for permission. You are answerable only to your imagination.

Karl Marx, who still casts a shadow over our intellectuals, famously said about the mature communist society, “I could fish in the morning, hunt in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening and do critical theory at night, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic.” In other words, no one would be compelled to do anything or even be anything.

To normal people, this sounds insane. Most on our side of the great divide struggle to accept that the people in charge really believe this stuff. It is a consequence of the moral mind to assume rational motives for the behavior of others. There has to be a better answer for why they gave the fat naked black woman a precious artifact from history so she could revolt us with it and her image.

Lots of people believed in Marxism. Lots of people still believe in libertarianism and anarchism, despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary. At least with Marxism, there have been real world attempts to make it happen. Libertarianism and anarchism never get past the planning stage. Despite the lack of anything to support their dreams, these fantasies persist, even among otherwise bright people

The neo-Marxists and their dream of cultural liberation are just as committed as the libertarians and anarchists. They have not thought through how the world will work when whiteness is removed. They are just sure it will be great. The main difference between themselves and the libertarians is they are well past the planning stage and are trying to make it a reality.


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This Week’s Show

Contents

  • Robert Nozick
  • Political coercion
  • Economic coercion
  • Cultural coercion
  • Racial coercion

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libdis
libdis
1 year ago

While we can always agree the crux of it is racial coercion, I never win with the majority normie, or even a minority with that approach. I have one, more then once, using the cultural coercion approach. I always approach from the point that it is not racial, but cultural. In reality for the most part that is true. It is not the black person I do not want to be around, it is the black cultural acceptance of hate of education, lack of fathers, ghetto mentality, rap, etc etc. More than once people who would be quick to yell… Read more »

Pozymandias
1 year ago

Bad things happen in October. Well, that’s my totally unscientific assessment of history’s great disasters. The Cuban Missile Crisis was from 16 – 29 October 1962. We are a couple weeks from its 60 year anniversary. The Wikipedia page sums up the event with two bullet points: 1. Publicized removal of the Soviet Union’s nuclear missiles from Cuba 2. Non-publicized removal of American nuclear missiles from Turkey and Italy. I’ve been thinking, what are the parallel concessions each side could make today over the Ukraine? A more important question though is whether there is anyone sane or mature enough in… Read more »

Groucho Marxist
Groucho Marxist
1 year ago

When I hear the phrase “Bearded One”, I reach for my gun.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
1 year ago

I’m finishing up a week long cruise vacation. Boy do I have stories to tell from this. Astounding.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

All I want to know was how much weight you gained? 😉

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

@CompSci

I did my best to contain it, but I think I put on a few. My wife did a much better job of containing her indulgence. Way too much beer and dessert for me.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Do tell…

(text to satisfy filter)

trumpton
trumpton
1 year ago

For those that missed it regarding the new “nationalist” in Italy. The day after she won, she sent Zelensky a public message that he can “count on our loyal support.” Following on from a piece about Germany that Scholz was seen as not “completely loyal” to Ukraine. This is all starting to look a very, very odd in the use of language in public. Its obviously got one of those hidden communications in plain sight vibes to it all. Especially when you factor in the number of pols turning up personally into what was a reported war zone month after… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Zelensky’s ring finger is not his own. It’s just a placeholder for ZUSA. Melons may be “far right,” but I guess not too far right. Exactly what “support” Italy can offer seems rather miniscule and the comment smacks of virtue signaling on the cheap.

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 year ago

Late to this thread, but I want to observe that a desire to live among one’s own people will require anti-miscegenation statutes and a prohibition against trans-racial adoptions. I’m comfortable with both, but I think that even some people on our side of the Great Divide may squirm at such measures.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

If they “squirm at such measures”, they’re not really on our side.

Ya gotta draw the line somewhere.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

You can make it more palatable by strong freedom of association rights. Mudsharks gonna mudshark, but keep it to their own neck of the woods.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Is anyone else starting to wonder if the shortages in the headlines are just more gaslighting? Or am I in a weirdly normal oasis for 2022? In my area the shelves are quite well-stocked with all manner of product. Prices are up, but not in an eye watering way. Multiple trains pass through the area every day. The sports bars are packed for happy hour. I had lunch at Pita Pit. They had plenty of staff. The service was prompt and friendly. The ingredients were all quite fresh and high quality. In other news, since it’s the end of the… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

TBH I see it as rather more insidious.

Remember the ransom infant formula shortages that came out of nowhere that were a big deal during the mass vex period?

Well yesterday I was reading a piece on the mRNA being passed in breast milk to newborns.

You think the 2 are unrelated? Because I sure don’t.

If they did the jabs they certainly have no qualms about making sure infants are infected with the same poison.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Trumpton –

The formula shortage is one of the few that has persisted here.

I also believe there is a relationship between that and the finding that mRNA can be passed from mother to child via breast milk.

Nancy in Alberta
Nancy in Alberta
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Just throwing in a short 2 bit comment: could you please clarify this re the connection between formula and the passage of the waxx component to breast fed babies? It should be reckoned that babies on formula rarely transition back to breast feefing. Multiple reasons why not, but suffice it to say it’s uncommon, so what you’re suggesting may not be a thing.

Nancy in Alberta
Nancy in Alberta
Reply to  Nancy in Alberta
1 year ago

Or are you saying more new mothers are choosing to breastfeed because of the fear of formula shortage? I’m not seeing that, either…

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Prices are up substantially more than reported in the news. My guess is you haven’t really noticed because you make good money, as many on this side of the divide do as I’m guessing z’s readership is relatively high IQ. As a contractor, I can tell you building materials are up something around 50%-100% from the before coof days. A 250’ roll of 12/2 wire used to cost $75 bucks pre-covid, now it’s $150. An 8’ 2×4 was $2.50 pre covid, now it’s $4. In the food world, eggs are up about $100. Carton of 36 used to be $9… Read more »

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

Sorry, eggs are up about 100% not $100 haha

cg2
cg2
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

The eggs I eat were already $6 plus a dozen and my Kerrygold butter and freezer full of grass fed beef are also pretty pricey. Lettuce and Brocolli went up manageable amounts. But I eat or prepare all my food at home, so thats big savings there.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

We’re getting there.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

That been my experience too.
Prices are up substantially. But there’s more business than ever. Almost too much. Decent labor is hard to find. Customers are not as price sensitive as they have been for decades.

So overall if you are willing and able to work, or own your own business times are pretty good.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

I agree. We’re slammed with business as well in the GC/carpentry world as well. We’ve gotten to a point where we can pick and choose jobs. If someone seems a little loopy, or like a leftist or covidian, we simply pass. I think this is a function of a few things though 1) no one working in the trades, so customers are being funneled to a smaller amount of guys still working. 2) The customers that were borderline on being able to afford renovations are simply not doing them anymore because of inflation. Or they’re getting hack jobs done by… Read more »

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Certain raw materials have proven themselves challenging to get. Getting a quote from a vendor used to be good for 30 days and now it’s just one day due to supply chain constraints and inflation. I think common household goods are back on track but things that used to be reliably 2-3 weeks lead time are now 8-12 weeks. It’s a gut punch and some industry people are saying the soonest this could get back to normal is 2024. The Branch Covidians did a lot of long term damage to the economy. Hope it was worth it for them; I… Read more »

Maniac
Maniac
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

The whole “Covid shipping bottlenecks” thing hasn’t appeared to have panned out yet. When it comes to the headlines these days, I have a simple approach: maybe, maybe not.

Take your eyes off Yahoo! News and fix them on God instead.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I think you’re just noticing the “k” shaped recovery. Some people went back to normal, even better than normal, but it wasn’t a “v”. Some people seemed to drop even further than before. I’ve noticed the prices going up significantly, way more than 8%. I haven’t been too badly affected since I got a huge pay raise during COVID, despite being pureblood. And, I’m probably in for another big raise in January. Hasn’t affected me much either. Bars and clubs are also packed in Ontario. Money seems to be growing on trees right now. I get that some people are… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Wild Geese: No supply chain issues or real food shortages here in DFW. Some items might be short in some stores for a bit, but always available at another vendor and all are eventually resupplied. Everything has gone up in price, but if you use the weekly sales circulars and digital coupons, you can still get some really good deals. As The Greek noted, definite shortages and massive price increases in construction items (I’ve been picking up a few things here or there that I feel we may need in the future). At the same time, I have seen online… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I believe there is a lag time happening here. Wait until Christmas season over. I see price rises in the grocery store as well as sometimes empty shelves. What I really see is much less of the “specials” in the food market. Less of the two for one come-ons and such. Housing has come down in price after the rush and the crushing interest hikes. What keeps things going on the higher end are the rich folk who come from CA or Boomers downsizing—both pay cash. At the lower end there is no supply at any affordable interest rate. So… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

If you’re looking for truck / engine parts at the distribution or heavy machinery end, be prepared to barter, swap parts, or search several states to see if they have it.

The root supply chain inventory listings are thanks to the internet.
“They have two in Conneticut, so we’re waiting on shipping” is a common refrain.

Vegetius
Vegetius
1 year ago

Sgt. Buddy Portis, the legendary Marine Korean War veteran who succeeded Karl Marx as the New York Tribune’s London correspondent, always said that if the Tribune only paid Marx better, it would have saved us all a lot of grief.

After leaving the Tribune, Charles Portis decamped homeward to Arkansas where he wrote at least five novels, including Norwood and Dog of the South and True Grit.

Yes, that True Grit.

He died in Little Rock in early 2020, at the age of 86.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
1 year ago

Flute coulda come out of this stunt far worse for the wear. Letting Herbie Mann or Jethro Tull do some licks just wouldn’t deliver that cultural vandalism satisfaction would it? Lizzo’s lyrics have been the subject of several university courses since 2020, so it was just a matter of time. She’s the 8ball version of Lin Manuel Miranda.

James J. O'Meara
James J. O'Meara
1 year ago

Sounds like Zman is getting his ducks in a row, getting ready for the new world after Putin’s inevitable conquest of the West.
“Well, comrades, those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes now, eh?” (Austin Powers)
I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.

Nancy in Alberta
Nancy in Alberta
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Very goth. I like it. It’s curious that his dynasty didn’t count in the wholesale demise of the French aristocracy, but it was likely expedient to keep him around. In the end, the agent of order pawned his tools of the trade…

Allen
Allen
1 year ago

I saw a piece on this and the tagline was about how she was “classically trained.” Why not take the flute and show your prowess with a real piece of craft and history, you know, make people think about you as a flautist. I guess not instead we are treated to another round of Negro Antics. Which would then assure you that people will think of you and your people in a poor light. You then wonder why people don’t take your people that seriously, why should they? Might as well play into the stereotype.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Allen
1 year ago

“Why not take the flute and show your prowess …?”

Joggers gonna jog. Why? Because they are joggers… It’s who and what they are. They hate the accretion of other people’s culture which has been forcibly painted upon them at the insistence of the white left.

The Africans in America were drawn from all over west Africa. They are not a distinct African ethnicity with associated culture and any chance of natural ethnoformation through which they might have become one was destroyed when the white left decided to ‘improve’ them with their social engineering vanity project in 1950’s-60’s.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Deacon Blues: “Who sings the closing song in the episode? Sounds Swedish.”

Give it up, Zman. Give it up.
That song is so beautiful I almost lost my damn mind. We’ve gotta know.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

zman – I recall seeing the English translation of those lyrics – I believe here? – a while back. Now I cannot find them – even a website found via Yandex says the English lyrics are prohibited. Would you (or anyone else who knows Swedish) please share the lyrics in English again? Want to share with my husband.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Zman – Thanks – but those are still in Swedish.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Found it – and it was from here: Do you remember the time that I myself have never seen, When the people were happy, when the people were a So tell me now, Dad, how does it feel today, When you’re sitting in the slag of what’s left? When you were growing up, tell me how was it then, Was a girl something that was freely attacked? Did you walk down the street and listen little by little, Without hearing a word you understood? Did you ever have to go home alone Since you were robbed and beaten by foreign… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Holy smokes.
I am absolutely speechless.

This is art, true and real art; it captures a time and a place that someday will be no more. (per the late, great Ol’ Remus)

Nancy in Alberta
Nancy in Alberta
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Couldn’t reply under the translation, so I’ll give it here and hope it’s not completely mixed up.. At the risk of being simplistic or polemic (I am left handed, and have ADD, so it’s any port in a storm for me when trying to analyze, esp poetry), who is the Dad? Who is narrating? I’m interested in any thoughts others have. Thanks for the translation. It’s a gutting subject, isn’t it?

Hemid
Hemid
1 year ago

I don’t think the flashback caused by the J6 capitol tourists was to the French Revolution. That wasn’t a TV show, so almost none of our politicians know anything about it.

They do know that the official signal that the events of 2014 in Ukraine had turned from “popular uprising” to “American coup” was a shift from “massive street protest” to “small symbolic occupation of a gov’t building.”

Guilty knowledge.

Maus
Maus
1 year ago

FENCE THEM OUT! makes a pretty good cri de cour for the DR. Too bad they won’t leave willingly. Coercion is a two way street. “Calling Bull Connor to the Selma Bridge. Bull Connor, please report to the Selma Bridge.”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

The Zman just said “political economy.” That’s a good term for the “post-industrial” tiers. The term I’ve been thinking of is an administrative economy. Hayek called them the ‘war planners’, Toffler called them the ‘managers’; that is, post-capital is people who don’t risk anything theirs, but who decide everything re what others own. The Nordstream sabotage comes to mind. The real winner of the sabotage of the Japanese naval fuel depot in Indonesia, leading to Pearl Harbor- the real winner of that war was a system, the administrative state, the political and managerial economy. (And, of course, people uniquely suited… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
1 year ago

One of the interesting bits in Putin’s speech was about the state of Germany, Japan, UK and others he calls occupied by the US while pretending they are alliances.

“What kind of an alliance is that, I wonder? The whole world knows that the leaders of these countries are spied upon, the top officials of these countries are wiretapped not only in their offices, but also in their living quarters. That’s really a shame. Shame on those who do it and on those who, like slaves, silently and resignedly swallow that rudeness,”

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

I forgot to say that it seems Putin is telling the world that the politicians and others at the top end of our global visible hierarchy live in more of the global squid’s panopticon than we do.

I wonder who is doing the surveillance ?

Severian
1 year ago

You say she is fat. Is she also sassy? Inquiring minds want to know.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

Brave. Brave and proud, to be sure.

You really can be anything you want to be, except, well, thin.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Note that, as a very rough first-order approximation, James Madison was both a Presbyterian and an Anti-Federalist.

You simply cannot understand American History [and Amurrikkkun politics to this very day] unless you first understand Culloden.

This humiliation would never have been allowed if the flute had belonged to Franklin or Washington or Adams or Marshall.

Cf the B!tch of the Vineyard.

https://tinyurl.com/y7th5fzz

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

“You really can be anything you want to be, except, well, thin. Or white.”

Fixed it for ya.

And that is the bottom line as to why they hate us so much.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Tars: “This is the cry of the cuck.”

The cry of the cuck!
This election, we must cuck harder!

Embrace the cuck!
Cuck hard, cuck loud, cuck long!

Memebro
Memebro
1 year ago

I would gamble my meager life savings that “Lizzo” never heard of the Madison flute (I certainly never have), and that every aspect of this stunt was cooked up by some “woke” white female or “white” female university professor or grad student who is involved in some aspect of music history and happened to come across a reference to this flute doing some kind of research. I doubt 1/10,000 people, even 1/100 flutists, have ever heard of this instrument. And no, they didn’t go looking for a respectable established black flutist who plays for a well known philharmonic orchestra. (Which… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Memebro
1 year ago

There is a bottom to all graves.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Even the one Leonidas kicked that poor colored boy in in “300”?

I’ve always wondered about that.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

Per the Podcast. Level of IQ doesn’t eliminate the desire to rise or be at the top of the dominance heirarchy. Oprah, PDiddy and the BET Guy … … want to be at the top. It isn’t enough to be successful. That natural desire to have their faces and their people in charge of everything is also exacerbated by the seething anger and resentment that they came here in bondage. So the natural tribalism of humanity and desire to be at the top is further powered by a desire for revenge. The ConInc guys always quote their new founder, MLK,… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

RealityRules: You give far too much credit to blacks in general, and Michael Kang in particular. If you take any of his public quotes at face value, you are naive in the extreme – he preached nothing but revenge and expropriation of White society when his Juice handlers didn’t carefully sanitize his words for the media. Blacks have no genuine desire to go build their Wakanda because it’s always easier to take than to create. Aside from the fact that there exists only a miniscule portion of the black population that is capable of creating anything, why would they want… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Whites do it to themselves, and gladly.

Where I am its suddenly had an influx in the last year, so the local govt is obviously importing them directly and intentionally to pollute this area.

Instead of objecting, I witnessed some fat 50 year old who obviously organized a team of youngsters to paint the side of a historic building. It consisted of 5 whites girls of varying ages and 1 young black guy, and the fat guy was just getting them to pose and take pictures obviously for the local papers.

It never fecking stops.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

*That face you make when*
You realize it was the content of their character all along

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

3g4me – I am not posturing. I produced that Kang quote not to say he was some nice guy, but to make the point that he knew the truth and made a warning that was not heeded. I think you are reading things into my post that are not there. I said very clearly that this continent is our homeland, we aren’t giving up an inch of it, and we purchased one for them – in Africa. Maybe you should re-read my post. I did say I hope we can negotiate some peaceful separation, then go on to point out… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

RealityRules: You appear to wish to massage the message to make White identity palatable to Joe Normal. I assert Joe Normal will neither be persuaded nor integral to whatever future a minority of Whites is able to build. No point in posting at cross purposes. Perhaps you’d find more fertile soil at other sites.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Well, boys, judging by 3g4me’s feminine instincts, “Normie” now equals “Beta” [or worse].

That’s fascinating, and a reason for all proper Chads to adopt an even moar positive outlook on life.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

3g4me: I appear to want to help Joe Normie find his way to white identity because I do indeed want to. The reason I do is largely because of the several podcasts that ZMan has on the topic where he convinced me that this approach is a good idea. I was once a Joe Normie and I have no shame in that. The primary point in ZMan’s argument on this topic is that we gain standing by being reasonable to the people who we need to become reasonable to. Joe Normal already has a white identity. It is growing because… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“That natural desire to have their faces and their people in charge of everything is also exacerbated by the seething anger and resentment that they came here in bondage” “WE” and I use the term loosely, bear much of the responsibility for this anger and resentment. We stoke it in every way possible. We are never going to voluntarily separate and certainly not involving boats. A freedom of association and peaceful separation within the nation is the only remote possibility. But before even that can happen, we have got to have at least a generation of Whites who do not… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

If people were sensible the first target sets would be media/music production and distribution.

Frankly a series of EMPs would help save the west, rather than destroy it.

You need to turn off the mind worms before you can address the reality factors.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

RealityRules, you are demonstrating the white empathy that is the reason that we are on our knees. Blacks, a group, will never reciprocate. Sentiments like yours only fill us with self-doubt and sap our natural instinct towards self-preservation.

I know that you mean well.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“I don’t know why or how they can’t see this.”
The heavy conditioning to stop thought crimes and the fact they have high time preference.
So long as they can get really rich and live it up today, they have no worry for tomorrow. Many don’t have kids and if they do their worldview involves money as the solution to all problems.

3g4me
3g4me
1 year ago

Off topic, but some hard truths from Putin (per Zerohedge): Putin blamed the United States for this week’s unexplained explosions at the Nord Stream pipelines that have left the damaged pipelines leaking huge amounts of natural gas into the Baltic Sea. “It’s obvious to everyone who did it,” he said. On the issue of dwindling energy supplies and soaring costs headed into what’s sure to be a rough, frigid winter for European populations, he slammed Western elites for a problem of their own making… “They print money, but you cannot warm your homes with this printed money… They have to… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Hence the war.

He is correct, it is open satanism, and that is the war being fought

Whether you think satan or external evil exists or not is irrelevant, as they act as if it does.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Who ever thought it would be a Russian leader, a KGB agent no less, who would have to be saying these things out loud?

I never imagined I would live in a world where this needs to be said:

“Do we really want to have a parent No. 1, No. 2, No. 3 instead of mom and dad in Russia?”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Hence my support of Putin. Of all, he seems to take the right stand on the important issue. It’s the culture—stupid! He seems to realize that losing his people’s culture is worse than any military defeat they can sustain.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars Tarkas: “Who ever thought it would be a Russian leader, a KGB agent no less, who would have to be saying these things out loud?” Verily our Creator doth work in mysterious ways. PS: The reason Russian children do not [yet!] have a “parent No. 1, No. 2, No. 3” is because Saint Joseph Djugashvili built a literal physical wall around the East, to protect it from The Mind Virus. Saint Joseph’s methods are the only methods known to prevail in the face of these sorts of existential challenges. Any leader whose hands are tied behind his back on… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

“ ‘They print money, but you cannot warm your homes with this printed money…’”

Well, not really true. At some crossing point, the purchasing power of paper currency will be less than the cost of home heating fuel—at which point we switch over to burning dollar bills directly in the furnace. 😉

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Speaking of coercion, the Fed and the ESG cartel are planning a test run of a Chicom-style social credit system in green drag early next year:

https://dossier.substack.com/p/federal-reserve-announces-major-pilot

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Wild Geese: Thanks for that. For others who, like me, are not subscribed to substack, Yandex provides a link:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/other20220929a.htm

Bilejones
Member
1 year ago

Kunstler is uncommonly upbeat today. I suspect because his nirvana beckons.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/slouching-toward-endgame/

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

They’re going to crowbar Ukraine into NATO so they can invoke Article V.

At that point, all bets are off.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

TBH it looks like Russia has slow walked themselves into a situation that at best will subject them to permanent war from the west of Ukraine and direct involvement of US troops.

Putin tried the legal route instead of pressing their advantage and it has left Russia in a shitty position that is getting worse the longer it goes on.

Unless there is a sudden change, they are close to being in a situation where some of the new Russian territory is defacto occupied by NATO.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

BTW I say this based on the progression of the maps and the Russian telegram channels like Rybar, not out of some support for the zog.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Yeah, hate to say I told you, but Putin should have gone all out for decisive victory immediately. The clock *was* ticking and NATO sized him up and took advantage of the slow walk. 6 months of massive arms shipments and training for the Uke’s and here we are.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

His options are looking limited unless Russia actually decides its a war and rolls out the army proper and stop the inbound flow.

Further down this path is going to be worse than Ukraine in NATO as it will be Russian territory in NATO. That is going to be difficult to swallow.

If that happens then the US might get their wish to get rid of Putin and they may well get one of the hardliners who actually decides glassing Europe and parts of the US is well worth the risk.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Trumpton-

I agree Russia has taken hold of a tar baby with regard to how it has handled Ukraine.

I think Putin overthought the situation rather than realizing that the collective West is simply a bully that needs to be punched in the nose as one would do in the school yard.

Paul Craig Roberts certainly saw the situation correctly.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Yep. The weird thing is even now it the same pattern of essentially not reacting to the offensives in any way. They just lost Liman because they would not bomb the supply columns in that area or re-enforce the positions. So now russian lands are occupied by the Ukranians. The Russians mil is saying that they need to wait until Oct 5th for ratification before they can do anything. WTF. Even the Russian channels are accusing the mil of being traitors. Its either complicit or crazy behavior to sit and position your forces to lose these areas without responding. Once… Read more »

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1 year ago

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
1 year ago

Perhaps one day soon we will be treated to the scene of Vontaze Burfict defecating on the Mona Lisa. And no, I’m not shitting you.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

If not Vontaze Burfict, I’m sure Najeh Davenport would do it.

Winter
Winter
1 year ago

Regarding Lizzo and the flute, the person who spearheaded this cultural vandalism was a fellow African.

Quoting the Library of Congress Web Site: “Carla Hayden was sworn in as the 14th Librarian of Congress on September 14, 2016. Hayden, the first woman and the first African American to lead the national library, was nominated to the position by President Barack Obama on February 24, 2016.”

Dontcha know, tribalism is highest form of patriotism, unless you’re white of course.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Winter
1 year ago

A sheboon in charge of a library. That’s tantamount to putting a langouste in charge of a cactus garden.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“In fact there was—and not very far away, in a building called the Centennial Hall, where the inauguration ceremonies of the presidents of Liberia took place. The hall was empty now, except for the busts of former presidents, some of them overturned, around the walls—and a Steinway grand piano, probably the only instrument of its kind in the entire country, two-thirds of the way into the hall. The piano, however, was not intact: its legs had been sawed off (though they were by design removable) and the body of the piano laid on the ground, like a stranded whale. Around… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Ostei

Thank you for the proliferation of my favorite description of female chimps, Sheboon.

Together, we can wedge this descriptor into every day parlance!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

I’m with you all the way! (-:

Bill Jones
Member
Reply to  Winter
1 year ago

Thanks.
Proof of how easy it is to miss the blindingly obvious: Barry the Kenyan strikes again!

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Winter
1 year ago

Thank you for that information.
To quote Fred Reed
” the spring is getting wound tight.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Winter
1 year ago

Check out the fairly recent Director of the Smithsonian Institution.

JEB
JEB
1 year ago

In all fairness, how upset would anybody here be if Taylor Swift played the flute and the Library of Congress had let her play Madison’s flute in a concert? It looks to me like they are simply being true to the colorblind (and fat-blind!) doctrine traditional liberals profess to hold, which is certainly less bad than active anti-white animus. And it’s fairly clear how this happened. Their aren’t many pop stars who play the flute, so it’s not all that surprising that the LoC might invite one of them to review its flute collection, and even allow her to play… Read more »

JEB
JEB
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Could you be more clear? What part of what I said are you objecting to?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

Cultural Appropriation?

jethro
jethro
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

Morgoth’s Review talks about the various Leftist online archetypes. You appear to be a Hatchling: false naivety as a weapon.

You pretend to not be aware of the cultural/political context which shapes the commenter’s interpretation of the event and also fake a sublime ignorance about the bad faith of the Left.

A series of passive/aggressive questions premised on the belief that there is no left wing agenda and that it’s all a figment of your imagination.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  jethro
1 year ago

Why, thank you, jethro.

I read a short twitter thread by Chris Rufo showing the explicit instruction in extreme- and I do mean *extreme*-
“sexual” practices promoted by the teacher’s union.

Now that the under-14s are as stupified as street hookers, they’re in training to be sex toys for the ruling class and its minions. I think the Ottoman term was “kopcheks”, sexual clowns and entertainers trained in childhood.

The comments included many such Hatchlings; I couldn’t figure out their angle, but now see they were agents of the enemy.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

You could not possibly be more tone deaf…so to speak. This little stunt is fully of a piece with the very welter of anti-white racism you admit exists. It is exactly what one would expect from the anti-white cultural imperialists.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

Good point JEB and I might agree. The lefties who planned this stunt most likely had no thought beyond “OMG let’s let this funky diverse character enrich our historical artifact” rather than “let’s humiliate heritage Americans”. The humiliation ritual is a concept promoted by the d-right and nobody else really grasps it. Your average lefty at the LoC is not thinking about its larger meaning like we are. So it was not consciously anti-white, though I wouldn’t be surprised if an anti-white higher-up did consciously try to humiliate and planned the stunt and the stooges at the LoC just went… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Whether or not the people who put Ja’Mius Galway up to this were consciously motivated by some form of AWR is beside the point. The reality is that they spring from a milieu–the Leftist intelligentsia–where transgression and demotion of white Western cultural forms is considered an act of so-called “social justice.” Whether consciously or subconsciously, these worthies desired to take a symbol of white cultural superiority and to defile it with hideous African savagery. This incident was simply a flash of the much broader debasement and destruction of white culture. Coolio replaces Chopin.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I present your new GOP Senators, Coolio and Kanye!

To illustrate Marko’s point (and Ostei’s), the ever-kind and decent Raymond Arroyo, (Laura Ingraham’s sidekick), felt the flute stunt was a nice way to get a bit of promo for the Library of Congress and its director

Our debasement has been so mainstreamed it’s unconscious now, an effortless, natural assumption, like respecting the Gospels used to be.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

And we allow it.

If they had done with a similar Islamic artifact retribution would be the answer.

And they would be correct.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

There was a time when white men would have ripped that flute from her paws and found a new “case” for it…

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

If you think they would think of allowing Taylor Swift to do the same, then you have no idea how anti white the culture has come. I’m sure you think every commercial and tv show vastly over representing blacks is just them picking the person that had the best audition too.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

This is the cry of the cuck. The point was to humiliate us. You might as well be saying “look, my wife is on birth control when she sleeps with Bubba”

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“You might as well be saying ‘look, my wife is on birth control when she sleeps with Bubba.'”

True. Except these days, it’s Tyrone.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

The “person” they allowed to play the Jefferson flute is not known for her flute playing, nor much of anything else. She is not a professional flute player nor ranked as such. They do claim she has been trained to play the flute, but what does than mean? A class in HS? She is however a disgustingly obese Black woman. If she were white, she’d be a disgustingly obese White women. Is this a musical performance or a stunt? If a performance to honor Jefferson and his legacy, why would we have an amateur flute player performing—and then only play… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Lizzo’s not known for her flute playing, but she is well-known for “twerking” and dressing like a slut, which she disgustingly displayed at this event. And that’s what this was about, the changing of American culture. They’re shoving this crap in our faces everywhere you look.

Alzaebo.
Alzaebo.
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Everyone who saw that clip was holding their breath.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

There is one variety of flute which she is surely quite adept at bringing to her lips.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

There once was a floutist named Lizzo
Who got a plum post thanks to Prez O
She trilled and she twerked
As the shade of James lurked
And scarfed down a platter of Spam, o!

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The more vulgar the display, the better. Vulgar is really the best word to describe our culture (aside from being anti-White). This woman is the height of vulgarity. She’s morbidly obese and dresses in a way to maximize the effect of being morbidly obese. And, of course, she gesticulates like an animal in heat while presenting such a vulgar and disgusting presentation. This is one of the reasons they love trannies so much. Notice how they almost never put forward trannies who are making a good effort at “passing.” This is no accident. The more instinctively repulsed you are, the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Female fighting, rap and competitive eating–the unholy trinity of AINO’s anti-culture.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

To be fair …. lol. T swift hates her own
Like all the other pringles she’s just another becky that will be eaten
by millions of lizzos, shacreashas & latrinas

Howboudaa !

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Spingerah
1 year ago

“T Swift hates her own?

Does she really?
Ethno masocism?

Or,

Maybe posing for marketing purposes? Her manager probably believes that striking that pose will enhance and widen her mass appeal. Join in on the anti white woke religion. It all about image management. She is down with the purge. She is not like those other bad whites, so it’s ok to buy her records.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  WCiv911
1 year ago

Entirely possible. But it still constitutes betraying her own people to sell more records. Repulsive behavior.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I agree Ostei.

Consider this. How would her record sales change if she said, it’s OK to be white?

B125
B125
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

Don’t care. Don’t like black people, don’t like obese people, and especially don’t want to see an obese black person twerking and desecrating a historical artifact on TV.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

You make a gross error (~24:00) if you assume that the poor workers were “exploited” in the early Industrial Revolution. I do not deny that the poor and children worked long hours for a pittance, often in dangerous conditions. But it’s important to note you are critiquing by modern standards. Yes, they were “exploited” by modern (Western) standards. This is a common error made when studying history. A more valid way, perhaps the only one, would be to inquire whether, by the standards of their time and place, were the poor being coerced or exploited. Your comments about idyllic country… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Families were big. The oldest son inherited the farm, daughters were married off and everybody else had to go and try their luck in the city.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Exactly. This process has been documented quite well in medieval England, where cities like London were a death sentence with life so hard there. It was one of the reasons so many people from Europe migrated to the US—land to farm. The old country was occupied.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Agreed and good analysis Ben the Layabout. The European migration patterns from rural to urban and from Europe to America are alone proof enough that the theories of Industrial exploitation peddled when I was in school and to this day are bogus. Another interesting thing is comparing the labor conditions of say an American plantation slave picking cotton vs. and Irish or English coal miner back in the Fatherland. The work was brutal and tough compared to today, but the shift was to an improvement in living standards as well as more self determination. Of course, something is always lost.… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
1 year ago

Population explosion alone is a good piece of evidence that the Industrial Revolution improved living standards.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

It’s a complex story. In the case of Britain, the expanding empire provided raw materials and food for the burgeoning population of the British Isles. Those raw materials, coupled with Britain’s own coal and iron, fueled the industrial revolution, and manufactured products were exported to captive markets n the colonies.

The problem for Britain is that the carrying capacity of the land is probably not more than 15m. Maybe 20m tops. Hence the necessity of empire. Something people like Cecil Rhodes understood all too keenly.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Yes, it’s a complex thing. Climate was crap until at least mid or late 19th century, when the population explosion was already well underway.

OTOH, current low TFR may be ironically caused by too good living standards (on top of the usual reasons like contraceptives, women’s liberation etc)

African population growth is positively correlated with Western stupidity.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

In pre-industrial ages, increase in quality of life and a warming climate are a clear causal linkage from the latter to the former. However, the 1920 – 2020 QOL increase is largely independent of this factor. The reasons are: modern fertilizers from fossil fuels; advances in pesticides, (petro chemicals again with the win); better genetic engineering; far better large scale irrigation (fossil fuels again for the win); massive increases in harvesting productivity, sorting, preparation, packing, preserving, transportation (fossil fuels again for the win combined with Western man’s ingenuity). By around 1920, farming at the small and large scale became mechanized… Read more »

Calico
Calico
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Arshad Ali- the English population and economy increased before the empire. I know Leftists claim that Europe became wealthy because of empire but that’s a lie. Western Europe had a much higher GDP than China/India/Africa in the 1400s.England had a per capita income (dollars) in 1490 of 714,India was 520.

I know it pains you to admit it but Europe ,through its genius, created its wealth. Empire follows the creation of a superior polity-at least in terms of wealth and technology.

The agricutltural revolution in England created the surplus wealth that allowed investment in the technology created by the English.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Calico
1 year ago

You haven’t got your history right. The “agricultural revolution” was based on the dispossession of English peasants from the commons. This increased production was then used to feed the lumpenproles in the big cities — for profit. “England had a per capita income (dollars) in 1490 of 714,India was 520.” Not much to choose between them, is there? The problem is that even after empire, these wasn’t much to choose for most people. The benefits of empire accrued to a small minority, usually based in the City of London (i.e., the financial district). “I know it pains you to admit… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Calico
1 year ago

Empire doesn’t correlate with increase in wealth per se. It ultimately results in high concentrations of wealth at the top and a fall in living standards for the native population of the empire. That is the history of empire. The Empire rises up from a successful people who then have the surplus wealth and population to conquer abroad. I noticed the Left does the same with American slavery that they do with imperialism and colonialism – claim that slavery made America rich. They say, that the greatest wealth was in the South. Well, maybe the biggest planters, financiers of slavery… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
1 year ago

Thanks. Your comment about some of what you learnt in school being bogus merits some comment. If my crying “foul” on Z’s claim, as I did above was valid, then it’s proof that even a highly-educated and/or well-read person may learn “facts” that are in fact wrong, and sometimes easily revealed as such (as my above argument did). Was the fault that of the teacher? Teaching an untruth could certainly be accidental, but worse it might have been deliberate ideology. Given the era he grew up in, the latter is more likely. How many other “facts” that we’ve learned in… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Ben: Valid but incomplete point. Part of the reason so many had to leave the countryside and seek a job in a city factory was because of government and industry policies – selling off previously communal lands, enclosing grazing fields, etc. The poorest farmworkers were being squeezed everywhere in the 19th century – I’m speaking most specifically of England, of course, but I believe the situation in continental Europe was similar, when there weren’t armies traipsing across the fields and foraging for their own supplies and sustenance.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Absolutely correct. Bravo.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

This is consistent with the notion that it it is oligarch misconduct that preconditions a working class to be accepting of communism. Mostly, we just want to be allowed to work and earn ourselves a reasonable life, to not be hideously and unfairly exploited. There wasn’t a communist revolution anywhere that wasn’t preceded by excessive ‘elite’ bad behavior.

Just because the communists are evil degenerate rodents in human form doesn’t mean that the oligarchs in charge don’t bear ultimate responsibility.

yo
yo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I am asking in earnest whether you think the move of large masses of people hundreds of years ago into cities was a good thing or bad?

My opinion is that results of cities is Civilization. Da Vinci. Bach. Mozart. Keppler. Copernicus. D’uomo in Milan. Notre Dame.

Without cities, we would be living in a glorified Max Max World.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

“To argue that millions of peasants willingly left a relatively good life in the countryside for a worse life in the city is untenable.” There was no such good life. I can’t give a crash course here on the way things developed in Europe generally, and England specifically. In England the enclosure and privatising of the Commons forced landless peasants into the cities, where they had to make a living any way they could. Something similar can be seen in the Third World today as landless peasants make their way to cities bursting at the seams. Those landless peasants who… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Arshad Ali: Too many forget just how poor and miserable most White people were throughout history. It’s of a piece with the belief that life has always been comfortable for Americans except for the brief interval of the 1930s depression, and each generation has always had it better than the previous ones. Whites were slaves (generally to Turks, not Whites); Whites were indentured (to other Whites); Whites were landless peasants or itinerant farm laborers; Whites were exploited factory workers. I’m not a huge fan of post WWII American labor unions, but I do understand the history and reality which gave… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

“Out of great suffering and privation came the true birth of the middle class (from the extremely circumscribed kernel of small tradesmen and crofters).” We could have a long discussion about this. The post-WW2 US middle class was mostly possible because of the USA being top dog economically and militarily. The US ruling class was — for the sake of domestic peace — willing to allow the emergence of a stable middle class and full employment. Even this was not out of their good hearts but because of memories of the labor militancy of the 1930s. But this tacit pact… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

These guys reckon 1971 was the turning point.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

,

And from the metrics they are using, they are correct. By the mid-60s the clouds had started to gather in the sense that rebuilt Europe and Japan started to compete with the US in global markets. European and Japanese cars started to show up on American streets as those Volkswagen, Daimler-Benz, Toyota and Nissan started to compete with the Big Three. The combined costs of the Vietnam War and LBJ’s Great Society Program started to make a serious dent on the country’s finances and were factors in the USA having to go off the gold standard some years later.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

They were also slaves to Jews. A fair amount of ethnic strife in Iberia was due to Jews enslaving Christians from north eastern Europe and bringing them into Spain.

The labor Unions sewed the seeds of their own destruction, but you do have a good point, that there were conditions that gave rise to them. Some of them are not unlike today. Mass immigration made life at the bottom of the labor pool very difficult in terms of job stability and wage stability.

Government worker unions on the other hand are evil and should be illegal.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“Mass immigration made life at the bottom of the labor pool very difficult in terms of job stability and wage stability.” Mass immigration has been one key tool in weakening the hand of labor. Most whites can probably sense — without necessarily being able to put it into words — that “celebration of diversity” and the multi-culti society are coming at their expense economically. The immigrants keep wage rates down and the domestic labor force cowed and docile. In the late 19th and early 20 century, US organised labor was adamantly and implacably opposed to immigration — they could connect… Read more »

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

For a couple decades we were the only major economic power that wasn’t smoldering rubble. They had no choice but to let the middle class grow. The middle class shrinking since the 1970s is a regression to the mean. White people had a brief moment of affluence and the increase in antiwhite sentiment shows just how the elite feel about that. It’s not that they’re scared of us and have to resort to draconian measures, it’s just the opposite: they feel they have us cornered and started attempting to crush us like the peasants they believe us to be. They… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Subsistence farming is a hard life, but Negros and share cropping is not representative of typical farming as occurred in much of the US. It was really an extension of slavery and about the only thing the majority these folk could do after they were freed.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The Chicago version:
“We should have slaughtered our own beef.”

The black labor diaspora northwards in the 1920s was due to cheap railroad tickets. The steam engine was invented by a African Scot named Robert Ngamwe Fulton, wasn’t it?

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

No. The idea and first prototype was first developed in Greece – surprise! (Hero of Alexandria 1st century AD). Hero’s engine converted steam to rotary motion. The modern steam engine was birthed by a French physicist Papo and a British inventor Savory.

An African Scot? Oh for God’s sake I hope that was sarcasm and not something the presenters of Lizzo The Twerkster’s are promoting as the history that Lizzo loves so much. That has me thinking, that Lizzo’s Flautwerking is probably a prelude to a complete rewrite of history.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
1 year ago

Welp, if British boys are named Mohammed, then Americans were named Ngamwe.

After all, they built America, didn’t they? Ngamwe and his black brothers, Washington and Jefferson.

JP
JP
1 year ago

FYI Vox Day is trying to piss on your lawn because he thinks you got Magic Dirt theory from him rather than Derb

JP
JP
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

Though, Derb may have gotten it from a post from Vox from about a week before.

I can’t delete the thread, so this is the last.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

Pissing matches are a sure sign of an insecure intellect. Vox Day who? Why bring this up? Has Z-man ever claimed credit for first penning the concept? Indeed, I assumed it was a generally used term when I heard it long ago.

Seems one should be content with the knowledge that they penned the concept first and now it is commonly used in discussion.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Compsci: This. All these people demanding recognition and credit are animated by the same spirit as Hollweird actors, politicians, the MeToo wahmen, etc. It’s always LOOK AT ME all the time. If I am ever fortunate enough to create anything useful or coin a phrase others adopt or have sufficient funds to provide sufficient charity (to other Whites only), I would want nothing more than anonymity. Some financial remuneration is legit in certain cases, of course, but this trying to put a personal stamp on a political concept or useful phrase strikes me as absurd. As far as magic dirt,… Read more »

Sub
Sub
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

3g4me,

I always thought Sailer was the one who coined it also.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

The right loses systematically because it’s disperse and disunited. The left wins because they form coalition(s) of people opposed to the existing order. The right is so focused on having their exact principals they would rather lose than compromise or cooperate.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

Isn’t this a bit “he said, she said” and running to teacher?

Talk about female mindset.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

The Supreme Dark Qtard is unhappy that he is being shunned after his embarrassing and often reprehensible behavior during the Trump years

Sub
Sub
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

Is there a bigger faggot among the alternative right media than Vox Day?

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  JP
1 year ago

Uh-oh zman, pretty soon he’s going to explain to you, very slowly and with careful enunciation, how you’re a GAMMA and not The Supreme Sigma Gentleman like him.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

OMG, Zman cites Nozick! Hopefully he had holy water and garlic nearby….the Libertarian stain……

But in all seriousness, everyone on the DR should read Nozick because the DR is going to need some philosophical principles for organizing a security association when the SHTF. Nozick does this brilliantly. The book is slow going in spots and very theoretical, but very good stuff if you can stick with it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Hey Z, what’d you do to Vox Day to get in his head so much? Granted, it’s pretty rare that I check him out, but by chance I did today, and to my surprise, front and center was a Z-Man take down, so to speak. Maybe, he does this regularly; I wouldn’t know. His post is a bit odd. He’s claiming that you only recently discovered that immigration impacts national IQ and that you purposely refused to acknowledge that Day had been writing about it years ago. The idea that writers such as yourself have only recently become aware of… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

I’ll check that out. Honestly, I rarely read Vox. I started to pop in a bit more after Ukraine started to see if he had any links to some different info sources. For instance, I didn’t even know that he had issues with Fuentes. Apparently, he feuds with anyone. He does seem to be a bit of cult leader type, and there can be only one cult leader. He also mentions his intelligence constantly, which intelligent people never do. (Not saying that he’s not intelligent (don’t know really), but I am saying that there’s something odd about bringing it up… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Btw, speaking of guys who have lost it, someone just had a round and round with Cochran on Twitter about his theory that Ukraine bombed the pipelines. It naturally ends with him simply saying “Nonsense.”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

I agree that saying it’s the Ukrainians is crazy, but Cochran is showing another level of stupidity. His dashing and intelligent foe is pointing out to him that even if the Ukrainians did this, it’s still on the US. First, the biggest risk to Ukraine is not the Russians; it’s losing US support, so it would be insane of the Ukrainians to risk everything to bomb pipelines that aren’t even being used. Therefore, it’s extremely unlikely that they would do this w/o US approval. Second, even if by some crazy chance the Ukrainians did this on their own, the US… Read more »

Cloudswrest
Cloudswrest
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

The words were: Scientody – The scientific method Scientistry – Professional practice as a scientist, e.g. “chemistry”, “biology”, … Scientism – Cargo cult religious belief in “science”, as in “Trust the science” ala “JudaISM”, “HinduISM”, … He coined these neologism in order to separate real concepts he was trying to get across. See Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Up until then it all fell under the rubric of “science”. Albeit they do sound funny, but I think it was a cheap shot by Derbyshire to make fun of them, and of course, Voxday is thin skinned, so he started squeaking. “Scientody” is as… Read more »

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Ol’ Ted thinks he is a temporarily embarrassed philosopher king who has to slum it with the rest of us dregs of society. The smartest person of any given room, although that’s because nobody else can stand to be around him so he’s by himself.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

As was told to me, “If you’re the smartest person in the room—you’re in the wrong room”. The point being, you can never learn anything worth while from someone dumber than you.

Unfortunately, I don’t remember ever being the smartest person in the room. So I’m just guessing here. 😉

Maniac
Maniac
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Teddy’s a narcissist – I still chuckle at the whole “bestselling political philosopher on the planet” thing – and as such he views anyone who’s more successful and influential than him as a threat. He’s the Bill O’Reilly of the manosphere.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

You should be honored Z. Normally he only spergs out over Jordan Peterson. Truly you are in rarified air. Has he called you a gamma or a midwit yet?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Does he credit Charles Dutton when he calls someone a “midwit”?

Alone in the northeast
Alone in the northeast
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Where’s your interview with Greg Johnson? Having difficulty finding it anywhere

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Alone in the northeast
1 year ago

I believe Z said it’s Greg Hood (amren), not Greg Johnson.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Lol, I kept doing the same thing. Greg Cochran, Greg Hood, and Greg Johnson.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Vox is a moron who lies about his IQ and thinks it makes him look cool.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Smartest guy on the Internet. 👨🏻‍🎓 Just ask him, he’ll tell you, you incel gamma midwit you.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

“Smartest guy on the Internet.” He should fight Scott Adams for that title. To death.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

A 4D chess ♟match, TO THE DEATH ☠️!

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Now I can’t stop picturing the image of two elderly bald men having a one-arm-over-the-face slap fight.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Am I reading Vox Day correctly? Is he saying we need to mention him when talking about immigration affecting national IQ? He’s really a strange guy. People have been talking about that for a long time.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Even the Bell Curve from 1994 talked about it. I am sure there were others before that.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

That was when eugenics was mainstream and a proper topic in a polite society.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Did he also claim to have invented the terlet? And that he was the one who turned cats and dogs against each other?

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

He should credit Gobineau An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races (1853)

JEB
JEB
1 year ago

One interesting thing about that Marx quote is that it is one of the very few things he ever said about what the world would be like after the Communists won. You would think he would be intensely interested in how a Communist society would actually function after it had been achieved, but no, he believed that once the bourgeois had been smashed the final barrier to Utopia will have been overcome, and that it would be presumptuous and pointless for him to try to tell future workers what they should do next, because they would just know. For me… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

Well said and that’s the giveaway, that Marxism is merely the excuse for Marxists to do what they were going to regardless. “We’ll have a perfect world when YOUR wealth gets redistributed MY way. Don’t you want a perfect world?”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

The Left has engaged in isolate, exterminate, and annihilate for centuries. Whether it’s the nobility, the clergy, the capitalists, the kulaks or white people, the Left has ever targeted classes for destruction, viewing them as the final impediment to building their bizarre Xanadus. Alas, all that results is the destruction of once functional societies, and ensuing mass misery.

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
1 year ago

Hell, I’ll defend Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist church, as would probably anyone who knew the story behind their origin. Phelps started out as a civil rights lawyer, even got an NAACP award at one point. One day he was with his family at the park in Topeka and some gay men in the bathroom made advances toward his son (he had more than ten children.) Phelps, thinking the law was on his side, petitioned the city for help in keeping gay men from making their assignations out of the public bathrooms, nothing more. The local government came down on… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

The tactics of the Westboro Baptist people are indefensible. They do nothing to the regime and instead go around harassing ordinary people trying to bury a loved one or going about their lives. If their whole operation was an op to make people who oppose the alphabet soup movement look bad the regime would tell them to tone it down. That’s how bad they are.

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
Reply to  Barnard
1 year ago

The regime that American soldiers die defending in the 21st century is indefensible, and it already was in the early 2000s, and I say this as someone who was in Iraq. Fred Phelps didn’t kill half a million people in Iraq, or wreck the Ukraine, or risk starving and freezing the people of Germany to make a point. Soldiers are required to obey all lawful orders or face UCMJ. Pretty much every “lawful order” at this point is more egregious than protesting a funeral (from a couple hundred yards away, at that).

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

That’s not what the “Church” necessarily did. The mourners (family and friends) are not necessarily supporting the war, but there for a grieving family—who may have not even supported the war, nor the actions of the deceased in it. The “Church” uses the despicable tactic of punishing the innocent to obtain notoriety they would otherwise fail to obtain through more typical and accepted protest. The “Church” is also quite venal and cowardly as has been shown when they’ve been threatened with “counter” protest from those who would sooner take physical actions than simply hold placards and scream insult. The “Church”… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

So Phelps isn’t as demonic as the DC satraps, huh? Bloody high praise, that.

The Greek
The Greek
1 year ago

Thankfully (I think), it seems we’re hurtling towards something historically, which will likely happen before their anti-white plan reaches fruition. For those that study history, we can see the confluence of so many factors leading to something bad. America’s sabotaging of the pipeline was a major escalation. Couple that with what will be a horrific winter in Europe with no heat and you have the makings of real problems. On top of that, the money printing of the west is finally starting to catch up with it. After all it’s tough talk about fighting inflation, England already signaled that it’s… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

How well do you think the Somali’s were living at home?
I suspect that grinding poverty in White societies is the top 1% of theirs.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

You’re missing my point. I’m not talking about thriving. They literally couldn’t survive such a cold climate, their biology isn’t equipped for it. Imagine putting a polar bear in a zoo in Brazil. It would be all good and dandy, but if the zoo shut down and they released it to the Amazon, it wouldn’t survive terribly long. A sub Saharan in Maine is an artificial creation along the lines of this. Part of the hypothesis for why northern hemisphere people are so much better at delayed gratification is because it was utterly necessary in natural selection because they had… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

The Lewiston Somalis came from Atlanta, where the inclusive black city council didn’t want them. Send them back to where they belong!

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

Bilejones: The big problem is the present White people default of courtesy and helpfulness. If the Maine locals would freeze out the Somalis they might make some headway. “Sorry, can’t fix the plumbing – totally booked up.” “Sorry, Johnny can’t play, he’s got homework.” “Sorry, can’t help feed your kids, barely have enough for my own.” Totally aside from government coercion – even when/if that begins to lose its power and control, local people need to harden themselves and refuse to help the aliens amongst them. Social shaming and isolation go a long way, particularly if Uncle Sugar isn’t there… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I saw a South Dakota lady shaking her head in disgust at two hijab-clad women badly driving a new mommy van.

South Dakota? Minnesota? Michigan? Maine?

Man, they might disappear in the dark, but they sure show up in the snow. This is gonna be so easy.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

What bilejones said is true of all of the mass migrants. Even a limping degraded America is way better than Mogadishu. At least they have infrastructure and abundance – and the regime favors them.

What this regime done to blight Europe and America with these migrants is one of the great crimes in all of history. The impact of that foolishness is yet to be seen. I would not live anywhere near Mogadishu West.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 year ago

Freedom of association is also good for other races, blacks that I know enjoy the company of other blacks more than being around us crackers.
Let blacks have their own culture, but let us whites associate with whom we want to associate.
That really is a radical idea, that will help society function better.
There is a reason for the story of the Tower of Babel.
Separate nations and separate peoples are by design.

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 year ago

Even the most ardent white nationalists believed in amicable separation. Maybe the word “segregation” is too loaded of a term. A better term that may appeal to boomers is “detente.” A racial detente where all races decide that living amongst themselves is best. Deportation ain’t gonna happen and all races appear to be increasingly chafing under forced integration. Detente implies neutrality. I think everyone would be fine with this, it just involves tossing radical agitators overboard. That will be mostly whites and “fellow whites” but if that’s what it takes, so be it.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

I like “self determination”: Let everybody determine for themselves as long as it doesn’t impinge on other peoples right to do the same.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

Bilesjones: Sounds like libertarianism to me, and surefire route to disaster.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I think the various races are entitled to to best life each is able to make for itself.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

How does one amicably separate when millions are in your homeland?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Maybe the Israeli’s can give them a boat ride back.
It only seems fair…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 year ago

Anthropomorphize much? It’s no more by “design” than the fact that ducks and crows, or wolves and foxes, etc. tend to associate with their own kind.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Ben: Oh gracious no, couldn’t possibly be any other reason that Ligers never existed in nature until The Science intervened and created them. No other possible explanation for the striking similarities in Earth’s biological creation and instincts – pure happenstance. Same reason all the monkeys live in harmony together . . . oops, my bad, I believe you said ‘most.’

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I stand by what I said. Yes, there are “striking similarities” in biology. But to impute that, or any other attribute of the world, to design, presumably of a God, is a common logical fallacy (“Appeal to ignorance,” if you care.) Heck, I concede you could be right, but ultimately it’s an unanswerable question, at least in this world.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Ben: I concur it may be an unanswerable question, but that was not your original argument. Respecting your right to disbelief in God does not equate to your likening others’ scepticism of Darwin’s theories to anthropomorphism.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

3g4me, you’ll need to excuse Ben, atheists just gotta atheist.

They sure don’t believe, but if there is one believer out there…well, that must be challenged.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Easy there, cousin. “Design” is just a word, and words are sometimes a bit clumsy.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

To Compsci, that’s what got me thinking about the role of emotion and language.

I observed my own reaction to the most innocent of comments.

I asked myself, “why am I having this gut-punch reaction?”

(As an atheist born, atheist to the bone.)

Certainly, then, if I do, then others do.

“Must be challenged” is an excellent way to put it.

“Triggered” is another- as is “a bug up yer butt, got your goose, yanked your string,” etc.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

The SimGod did it. All the natural physical constants were originally set by our Sim God on day one. Intelligent design, but not much foresight.

e **ipi + 1 = 0 !!!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Alzaebo. You of course are correct. My quip was perhaps ill put—as quip’s often are by their nature.

What I really think is that we (DR) as a group need to come together on the essential questions that bring us here and leave the unimportant differences in the back ground.

I have yet to discover what atheism vs agnosticism vs belief has to do with race realism, or in general DR ideas, as discussed among those of this group. I believe we can converge on the same goals coming from many directions. Indeed, that’s what makes this group discussion interesting.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 year ago

The regime will never allow freedom of association because it would result in political movement to create separate regions and then break apart the United Soviet States of America into separate nations.

Deacon Blues
Deacon Blues
1 year ago

Who sings the closing song in the episode? Sounds Swedish.

jwm
jwm
1 year ago

The desecration of the flute fits in with your post on Gab about the Somalians in Maine. The point is ritual humiliation. Defile, desecrate, destroy. Rub the white man’s nose in it every chance they get. They get away with it because there is no consequence to them for doing it. They can be a vile as they want, and be cheered for it. On the other hand, think of the consequences for any white if he should stray from the narrative.

JWM

Your Mother
Your Mother
1 year ago

I had to wonder how the crystal flute debacle even came about: did the Library of Congress just offer it to her apropos of nothing? I doubt she even knows who James Madison was prior to this.

On another note it’s depressing how many people I know believe Russia sabotaged their own pipeline. They just can’t imagine America being that far gone. It shows just how naive and trusting people are of the USG, even after everything that has happened.

Stephen Flemmi
Stephen Flemmi
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

In Soviet Amerika, pipe fits you!

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

USG and the media. People think, “Well if CNN and Fox are both in agreement that it was Russia that sabotaged the pipeline, then it MUST be true.”

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

That’s the thing, they’re usually (key word) skeptics on anything the government or media says. This time around it’s 100% belief. Old habits die hard, I guess.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

Since I usually only watch Tucker on FOX and he seems to believe the blown pipeline was Pedo Joe’s doing I fail to see how they all agree.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

I suspect that many of the people being loaded into cattle cars for deportation to prison camps thought that they were deserving of such treatment, and that the government was acting reasonably.

I’ve seen citations that during the Salem witch trials, or the earlier Inquisitions in Europe, that many of those accused of witchcraft honestly conceded that they were bewitched or otherwise in league with dark forces.

It’s amazing how strong the power of belief can be.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

You don’t have to go back that far. Solzhenitsyn told a story of when he was on a train to the gulag. He met a professor that was a true believer in Marxism and the regime. He tried to point out all the famine and problems to the man, and he kept spouting regime propaganda and excuses. He thoroughly believed that his own situation (being sent to a prison camp) was simply a paperwork error that would get sorted out. Nothing could shake him of the belief.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

No Ben, it’s amazing what a little torture can do—or at least the threat of it. Hell, in Roman times, a confession *without* torture first was invalid. I’m hesitant to believe any confessions where the confessor receives benefit. Even in the time you speak of (Salem), such was the case. Yes, you might receive the death penalty, but there are bad deaths and worse deaths.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

Two words: white people. White people did that. Not the fat flautist. There is a sickness in many white people and it is times like this when I cease being pro-white rather I’m pro-people who are against this stunt and against all the -isms that have led us to this point. Call it civic nationalism; I don’t care anymore. Downvote me bro. But you are either my ally or my enemy. There was a prank video circulating a couple days ago that had some white dude asking people to sign a petition for segregation between whites and BIPOC. The white… Read more »

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Yeah. I doubt Lizzo’s managers and handlers came up with the idea either as Madison’s crystal flute is an obscure fact. So that means the Library of Congress came up with the idea. I can easily imagine a bureaucrat with an ivy league degree, problem glasses, and danger hair deciding this was a good idea. Nothing too sacrosanct so nobody is willing to go to the mat over it. Also it provides just enough accelerationism so when Lizzo twerks in front of the Liberty Bell in 2025, nobody is that surprised.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

I am reminded that fairly recently a Zambian twerked in front of a Russian war memorial and was punished with 3 years in prison. Damn right I am hoping Vlad wins.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

The logic is not exactly “what would make the chuds mad” so much as “what barriers can we break to liberate ourselves”

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

If you know someone sniffing Ukrainian glue, show them this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSfz4N9GMM

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
1 year ago

MacGregor dropped a line that gave me pause. He mentioned Zelenski trying to put together a dirty bomb, This fits perfectly into all the bullshit we’ve heard about “Russia threatens to use nukes”- (they didn’t,) So we see a dirty bomb in somewhere like Odessa ( A Russian City founded by Catherine the Great in 1784 or so) and cries of “Putin did it!”.

Load up on your iodine folks.

As to the pipeline bombing . the correct response to the shills who deny it was the U.S. is: “So you’re saying Joe Biden is a liar then?”

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

Mother

The reason many people believe that Russia blew up their own pipeline is because people are basically stupid.

One wonders how many times a nation has to be lied to before they wake up and smell the coffee.

Oh well, I guess, especially with regards to the Magic Jab, that nature will cull the herd.

It’s hard to survive on this planet, especially when one is stupid.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

I’m sure it’s one of the dipshit Congresswomen behind it,

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

Bilejones: I’m not so certain – most of Congress is ignorant of what the Library of Congress has in its collections. They consider it a bastard offspring of the historical nation and a competitor for congress’ eternally-expanding staff office buildings. Oh, and competitors for seats in the private subway that runs between those congressional buildings. I guarantee the idea began with the Library staff. The Library of Congress was long ago infiltrated by anti-White intelligentsia – just as the National Geographic and Smithsonian and Scientific American were. Most of its lower-level staff – people with the freedom to roam the… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I mis-spoke. I’m sure it’s one of the DSCW who enabled it at the behest of one of the professional culture warriors.
At the back of my mind it’s the Young Turk thugs- those who auditioned AOC for the role back when she was tending bar.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

Bilejones: Looks as though we were both partially correct – I had forgotten the Librarian of Congress was a black woman. She probably proposed the idea to AOC and the squad.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

I believe it was either the Library of Congress or the Smithstonian who a couple of years back placed trigger warnings on the Founding Documents. I am doing a work from the road trip and in a part of the country you think would be deep red. All of the docents are woke Bolsheviks. I was at one place where, outside, there was a plaque and statue commemorating Washington and the Society of the Cincinnati. The docent, some Latinx history major who started the tour with a land acknowledgment, only mentioned Washington as dancing with hundreds of women at a… Read more »

Your Mother
Your Mother
Reply to  PeriheliusLux
1 year ago

Ouch, depressing but not surprising. I’ve started accumulating quite a library of books ranging from the classics to even biographies. I can easily envision widespread censorship of even the basics in the coming years. I’m not talking Culture of Critique, I’m talking The Iliad. Anything and everything is up for grabs and even as the system is gasping it’s last breaths, those breaths will be used to do as much antiwhite attacks as possible.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

Here is a good collection, Mom:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Classics

Also, although they require electricity and a advanced 21st century electronic dvd/cd device, The Learning Company sells a comprehensive set of college level courses on just about every topic.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Your Mother
1 year ago

“Did the Library of Congress just offer it to her apropos of nothing?”

It wouldn’t surprise me if she just marched in and demanded it and the people responsible for safekeeping the flute simply gave it to her because they were terrified of saying no to a black person.