The Shape Of Things To Come

Someone posted in the comments a link to an Ed Dutton post at VDare that got me thinking about a subject I touch on from time to time. That is, what kind of society will be possible with the history and human capital that will be available to us in the glorious time after this age? Whatever it is will not be like what was done in the past, simply because the material will be vastly different.

All discourse on what passes for the Right tends toward some version of “all we need to do is return to…” What ends the sentence is an idealized version of one of the big three ideologies of the past. Alternatively, people will offer up a vision of the future without mentioning how we get there from here. White nationalism, for example, suffers from the same problem as libertarianism. It exists only as an idea.

This is a problem with politics that we inherited from the Enlightenment, which is to assume you can start with a clean sheet of paper when it comes to politics. In every other area of life, problem solving begins with an assessment of the material at hand and the minimum requirements of the project. This is, in fact, how human society evolves, despite the claims of political philosophy.

This means that the place to start when thinking about the politics of the future is the material that will be available in the future. If the Western order does crumble, as it seems to be doing, then the question is not what will replace the current system but what can replace it. That means taking stock of what the population will look like demographically and spiritually.


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dan9
dan9
1 year ago

Jordan Peterson used to live rent-free in Z-man’s head. Now I think Z-man pays him to live there. Weird obsession dude. Weird.

Calling him post-modern is like calling a dog a kangaroo. Not just inaccurate, but, weird.

Pasaran
Pasaran
1 year ago

The disgusting fake DR commit another crime :

https://americanmind.org/salvo/i-dont-even-lift-bro/

(d)

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

(the criminal here is the secte “Americanmind”, and not the bodybuilder community. If A.Mind can’t see than aesthetic is on the hierarchic side – and consequently belong to the political right -, that’s another proof of the toxicity of this site)

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

Google image search the author’s name: soyjak face.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

Bros doing bro shit are the real trannies. Of course.

In its recent hard turn against all memetically potent right-wing things, Claremont hit its head.

The little “even Nietzsche admits” bit is a classic “Straussian” flourish, though. Nietzsche admits nothing. He *admires*. DON’T CHECK! The link goes to Wikipedia.

NateG
NateG
1 year ago

Great show, Z-man, but a little depressing. Sad to know my children won’t be living in the country I once knew.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

With all due respect, they may not live in the world you grew up in, but they can thrive in a world you help build.

It’s going to take sacrifice and effort.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

try and stay in the moment. how are they doing now, today?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

Hell, I’ve been lamenting for years that even “I” don’t live in the country I grew up in!

miforest
miforest
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

mine don’t live in the world they grew up in, an clearly my grandkids won’t either. I try to keep them in the faith , and to develop their families best they can .

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 year ago

I can speak to skills collapse. I work in eCommerce software development. That is an area with access to global talent. I can say that critical software APIs such as that from Shopify, Shipstation, and others have declined radically. Both used to have elegant APIs that returned remote objects as “local” ones in languages such as Ruby, Python, etc. that could be easily manipulated and saved back to the remote system. Now, everything is just a JSON object that the developer must manipulate and send back. They just did not have the manpower any more to maintain these APIs in… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

Since they ousted Saddam in 3 weeks with 160k troops, it’s not hard to believe that the regime believes it can oust Putin with a quarter million possessing wunderwaffen they didn’t have in the desert.

It’s 350 miles from the Kuwait/Iraq border to Baghdad. More like 650 from the Polish/Belarus border to Moscow. So deploy roughly twice as many troops, figure 6 weeks to victory instead of 3, easy peasy japanesy

Would you really put it past Nuland et al to believe that?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

No, that’s what makes Neocons so dangerous. They live in a fantasy of invincibility—which has never been shown against and equally matched opponent. No need to discuss examples, we’ve done that pretty thoroughly on this blog already.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

“We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure [of the Soviet Union] will come crashing down.” — Adolf Hitler

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

Speaking of mounting incompetence, I have been retired for 5 years after nearly 5 decades of 60-70 hour work weeks and damn few real vacations (yes, burn-out, it happens to the best of us). At the beginning of my career, I spent a decade in refinery engineering at the (then) second largest refinery in the USA; after which, I changed gears into other related work. Today, I’m receiving about a dozen unsolicited help wanted applications at some of the biggest petro-chemical facilities on the planet, and they all sound desperate for any warm body who knows what a refinery does… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Tom

If you don’t mind, a question.

Can an individual refine raw crude that they pull from their own land? To use in say, small motors and vehicles.

Not quantity, I just want to know if it’s even remotely feasible.

Asking for a friend…😬

anon
anon
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

Yes, if you friend has the skills to set up a small fractional distillation column and running it without the whole thing blowing up in his face.

Not only would he get fuel, he would get a lot of interesting byproducts, some quite toxic, like benzine.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  anon
1 year ago

So you’re saying one needs “experts”.

Got it.

I’ll withdraw the question.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

That sounds harder to do than say wood gassification or making biodiesel.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

Yes, raw crude can be processed into fuels locally, and the yield on these straight-run fuels is dependent on the composition of the crude. The small-scale units that do this are called autostills and they can run autonomously with occasional preventative maintenance; but there is a heavy byproduct that must be burned or disposed, which is non-trivial problem. Most autostills are used on long and remote crude pipeline corridors (Alaska) to generate diesel for generators and support vehicles. The heavy byproduct is returned into the pipeline, so no disposal issue.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Thank you Tom. Points me in the right direction.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

set up a still and plant corn 😛

davidcito
davidcito
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

Whiskey, i also work in that industry but in CRO and creative. The indians i’ve hired are completely incompetent and complete liars. Also, one client has a female programmer, the first i’ve ever met. She made a stupid mistake that cost them about $40,000 in a month. They wouldn’t reprimand her because she’s the only female in tech they have and don’t want to lose another female employee!

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  davidcito
1 year ago

hire a tranny and get the best of both worlds!

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  davidcito
1 year ago

Coder as well. (I never would have guessed Whiskey was a coder.)

I’ve met one above average female programmer in my entire life. The rest have invulnerable job security and thirsty men hoping to help them.

Vxxc
Vxxc
1 year ago

Here’s the 🇺🇸 Shape of things to come, which requires 13 words pipo because it’s Space colonization and they are DOD serious, FIN serious, tech Lord serious- above all they’re not really asking they’re Telling.

https://a16z.com/2022/11/02/america-space-age/

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Vxxc
1 year ago

Vxxc

I glanced at the linked article and a few things came to mind;

Legislation was enacted to allow private companies to harvest resources in space? Beggin the Colonels pardon, but any organization that can harvest resources in space doesn’t need “permission”. Methinks they will be able to handle the task.

They’re gonna need Honkies to partake in colonizing space. Shitavious just doesn’t have the skills.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

I think putting blacks on the moon is a great idea, all of them.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Vxxc
1 year ago

They might consider establishing a terrestrial manufacturing base before they attempt to establish an extraterrestrial one

The Jamestown analogy is preposterous

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Agreed. The Jamestown project all relied upon existing technology. It was the social organization, disease and logistics issues that were the primary problems. Once they solved that, they applied long existing technology and the riches extracted were immense. I am not opposed to a space project per se. I particularly like the idea of resource extraction. A civilization that is throwing open its borders, inflaming a race war aimed at its majority population, lowering or even abolishing standards as part of it, demoralizing the youth, and attempting to decrease the reliability and density of its energy machines and resources doesn’t… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Vxxc
1 year ago

Nothing too shockingly wrongheaded about that article actually. The author makes good points about the Earth’s gravity well, space having lots more and more easily accessible resources (once you get a foothold there) and the need for an infrastructure to make resource extraction routine. The problems are in the implied “meanwhile back home” section that the author expects us to write in our minds for him. So in the great age of exploration the Western nations had robust population growth, elites that were not hell bent on replacing their native peoples, and sufficient home grown industry to build the ships,… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Vxxc
1 year ago

this is mental masterbation. We are not going to space. NONE of us.
I watched the moon landing, it was an amazing feat by amazing people . all dead now . we cannot keep the power grid up anymore much less design spacecraft. There are personel stranded at the international space station right now . Russia is
planning on trying to put together a rocket to rescue them now. we are losing the ability to do the more complex of things. you got a plan on how that is going to get better with time?
read all of this: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jan/11/russia-to-launch-rescue-ship-to-space-station-after-meteoroid-hit

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

It’s a great idea to be thinking about the future group power dynamics. America will not be a majority white country soon. That’s never going to change. They’re never going back. Not this century. But we aren’t going anywhere either. We have to think about how to secure a future for ourselves and our posterity in this environment. I think segregation is part of the key, or separation. As well as finding allies with other groups. The key is, we can’t have any power in the future if we don’t even exist! We won’t exist if we allow ourselves to… Read more »

DGrifters
DGrifters
1 year ago

Can we please get the name or a link to the artist singing the song at the end, would love to download it

Robert
Robert
Reply to  DGrifters
1 year ago

Saga – belong to me, pt 3.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Ah, shoot. One more.

After 17 years of inactivity, the CDC reclassified its toxicological profile of vinyl chloride from 10,000 parts per million to 100,000 ppm…11 days before East Palestine.

I’m thinking gov might pull a Los Alamos here and purchase the now uninsurable land for 3 cents on the dollar, unless they outright eminent domain it.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

A few essays back [“The Organism”, February 15th], I posited that if you desired to eradicate the Scots-Irish from Amurrikkkun civic life, then East Palestine, Ohio, would be just about exactly Ground Zero of where you would want to launch your Chemical Weapons attack. Fast forward 72 hours, and we get the following news item: Residents of a county about 70 miles north of New York City are reporting an “unusual odor” in the area and “residue” on their cars, officials say. The ORANGE county government said in a Facebook post… https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4131941/posts If you look at the terrain maps of… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

this is mental masterbation. We are not going to space. NONE of us. Space isn’t north americ with ariable land and resources . I watched the moon landing, it was an amazing feat by amazing people . all dead now . we cannot keep the power grid up anymore much less design spacecraft. There are personel stranded at the international space station right now . Russia is planning on trying to put together a rocket to rescue them now. we are losing the ability to do the more complex of things. you got a plan on how that is going… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

Sorry, this was supposed to be on VXXC’s post about how we will colonize space.

Yancey Ward
Member
1 year ago

The future is grim. The United States will be a third world country like Mexico by the end of the century for certain- the demographics are inescapable at this point. Europe will be far, far worse.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Yancey Ward
1 year ago

At least in the US there will be a lot of people fighting to save what can be saved. Here in Europe people are complete zombies who will do everything the State orders them to do.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Yancey Ward
1 year ago

There will also be opportunities in the future though. The sun will still come up in the morning. And my guess is technology will continue. There are still hundreds of millions of white people worldwide and even more Asians who can at least copy what’s been developed.

Certain parts will become Mexico though.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Yancey Ward
1 year ago

History has lessons for us with respect to the demographic reality ahead. A minority of white Spaniards controlled Mexico. A minority of white Portuguese controlled Brazil. A minority of white Afrikaners controlled southern sub-Saharan Africa. All it takes is the will to assert power brutally. As AINO gets more crowded and stupid, the realization that it’s us or them must harden our resolve. There is absolutely no IKAGO. Do not go quietly and submit to doom. TomA has the right idea. His gray man bolt-from-the-blue drumbeat will become a clarion call when SHTF is widespread.

davidcito
davidcito
Reply to  Yancey Ward
1 year ago

Why will Europe be worse? Only france has a 10% nonwhite population. The others are still more than 90% white I think. Europe is headed for economic depression so I doubt they’ll continue importing knuckledraggers at the same rate for the next 75 years.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  davidcito
1 year ago

davidcito: “Only france has a 10% nonwhite population. The others are still more than 90% white I think.” It is fascinating that the african and oriental races [to include the j00z] all flock to the urban areas, and uniformly eschew rural life. [Down South here, there’s an enduring meme which holds that kneegr0wz are mortally TERRIFIED of venturing into the woods.] I don’t know but that that doesn’t play directly into our hand: Let the africans & the orientals poison & contagion & rape & murder one another into oblivion, and let the White race live peacefully in rural agricultural… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Kneegr0ws are mortally terrified of going into the woods.

That fits with,”what are the top three things blacks fear the most?”

1) Clowns
2) Ghosts
3) Certified mail

uJja
uJja
1 year ago

Any sources? (…….. comment was to short without this in brackets).

HjJJ
HjJJ
Reply to  uJja
1 year ago

That was about the comment saying apartheid was introduced to prevent black tribal interkilling.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  HjJJ
1 year ago

No sources beyond memory and honesty, sorry.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

(This is a reply to Geese, Sandmich, Ostei below re the Davos plan. Didn’t want to be a skinny column. Forgive my giddiness today, I may not say why, beyond relief.) Just as Youngstown, just north of E. Palestine, is a main staging yard for 3 railroad carriers. What Apex said- they could’ve had backup engines down there in 2 hours to pull out all the cars. Instead, they were carrying 300,000 gallons of a chemical banned in 1974, ignored the sensors for twenty miles, Let burn for three days, Then detached the water cooling lines, which had kept the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

ps- not a word about dioxin, which American policy clears out towns and claims the land for. The cloud was a dioxin plume.

One wag put it- “This is how you gas 6 million Americans”

Think they didn’t do the Morganthau / Kaufman (“Germany Must Perish”) Plan? The Avengers plan of national poisoned bread loaves?
They’re doing it now.

UsNthem
UsNthem
1 year ago

Well, I guess if the juice were holding sway over substantially smarter populations a century or two ago, based on the way things are demographically headed currently, we can surmise the future – and the legacy White population won’t be calling any shots whatsoever.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  UsNthem
1 year ago

Gee, who might’ve sold this bright idea to carnivorous elites, painting it with all the promises they’d want to hear?

DFCtomm
Member
1 year ago

Your assumptions are wrong. Germany could have easily established an ethno-state in Germany if they hadn’t decided to conquer the world. Nobody cared about that then, and none of the non-Western powers of today would care about it now.

Look what the Soviets and the Chinese got away with and the only reason they did was because they did it within their borders. The only push back they received was due to their ambitions to conquer neighboring states and the world.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  DFCtomm
1 year ago

I’d have to take issue with that. Germany never wanted to “conquer the world.” They wanted to conquer Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. (I will, however, concede that had Germany adopted a policy of “containment” and created a militarized border with the USSR after recapturing Poland in 1939, they might have successfully created their ethnostate). And I’d have to disagree that the USSR and PRC engaged in their repression within their “own borders.” The Soviet Russia was clearly an expansionist empire, adding Ukraine to the USSR in 1922 and annexing the Baltic Republics in 1940. Han Chinese Communists took… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

“The world” may be a little hyperbolic but conquering all of eastern Europe plus France, Norway, Denmark, low countries is close enough to guarantee the same response from the rest of the world.

There is some decent scholarship out there that Germany’s invasion of Russia was defensive, based on Hitler’s knowledge/belief that Stalin intended to conquer Germany in the near future anyway, thus Hitler preferred to fight that battle in Russia instead of in Poland/Germany.

DFCtomm
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Okay, so maybe Germany was too divisive to use as an example, so how about Franco of Spain, Trujillo, Pinochet,or Porfirio Díaz. This is one subject you can just keep going on. It’s tyrant after tyrant, after tyrant and the world gave not one shit if they weren’t a threat to their security. The idea that you can’t have an ethno-state because the world will stop you, is just wrong.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DFCtomm
1 year ago

I hate to say it, but the Germans did kill 20 million Russians. They had to try to get to those gas supplies, and the massing Soviets got the east anyways.

Not sure how “conquering” Europe is the the world, neutral states such as Spain and Ireland were not attacked, even Mussolini sheltered J’sh refugees…but still, 20 mil is 20 mil.

Pratt
Pratt
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Where does that number come from? Operation Barbarossa, the Nazi attack on Soviet Russia, began in June 1941. Roughly four years later the war was over. So, maximum the German presence in Russia lasted about 1,500 days. Of course, in reality it was considerably shorter and became ever less deadly for Russians, as the German forces were in retreat after the Battle of Stalingrad (winter/spring 1942/43), and soon at pains to defend the homeland. But let’s keep the calculation simple, and assume 1,500 days. If that 20 million number were correct, it would mean the Germans roughly killed about 13,500… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Pratt
1 year ago

27 million is what wikipedia says. Supposedly 8 or 9 million were from disease, leaving almost 20 (both military and civilian) to be accounted for by combat. I have seen some aspiring revionist ‘historians’ trying to assert that the Soviet success in pushing back the Germans was due to military prowess and not just to big dumb human wave attacks. But if they wish to support the 27 million figure, they can’t really have it both ways. Since there’s no other possible way but the human waves for the Soviets to have lost that many. Even had the Germans possessed… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

The West’s media is pushing the “human wave attack” bullshit today.
It was wrong then and now.

miforest
Member
1 year ago

Great Podcast today . Our elites seem to be hell bent on minimizing the number of us that are left after the current order breaths it’s last . their preferred method seems to be sterilization . through the trans agenda , which leads to lifetime sterility even though most of the kids into it detrains . the hormones render them sterile . also the constant social institutional pressure to be gay. I have read that 20% of gen z says they are non-binary. have friend who teaches in a 95% minority school , he says it’s almost non existent there.… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

“Traditionally,” to misuse the word a bit, non-whites have been more homosexual, trans[whatever], etc. Academics have “traditionally” counted that a major point against whiteness. People of humanity have third-sex two-spirited ladyboys, while people of monstrousness are against all that. The two sexual aberrations “traditionally” attached to whiteness—incest and interracial rape—are actually rarest there, they admit when it’s time to decolonize incest and cast failure-to-rape as racism. Even when historical whiteness accepted pederasty, it was as anti-love, toxic masculinity, displaced misogyny, anal capitalism. Etc. If sexual-perversion-as-identity has *really* been made a white thing, it’s really been *made* one, very suddenly. New… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

Another confirmation: as far back as we can go, whites, even rulers, had only one wife. Is monogamy also a ‘white’ thing?

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Charlemagne had eighteen children with seven of his ten known wives or concubines.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Anonymous Frog
1 year ago

Still, it does seem like monogamy was the general rule for white people even back in pagan times. Of course, powerful guys had women on the side, or serial wives.

But I don’t think we went in for the harem that much. It’s an interesting question.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

To the best of my knowledge, Whites are the only race which evolved far enough to embrace {1-man}/{1-woman} romantic sexual notions of child-making and child-rearing.

All the other races are fundamentally polygamist in nature.

[My understanding is that the diaspora j00z were still openly practicing polygamy in Holland within the last 250 years or so, and, to this day, polygamy is still not illegal in j00ish law. Furthermore, this serial marriage/divorce/marriage/divorce/marriage/divorce behavior pattern of contemporary j00z (not to mention hypergamy itself) is effectively polygamy.]

B125
B125
1 year ago

A polarized “democracy” won’t work. When 50% of the population demands one thing, but 50% + 1 demands the exact opposite, the 50% + 1 side wins. And the 50% gets their nose rubbed in the dirt. This sort of works when everybody agrees on the same founding principles, have shared genetics, and have common interests. If 60% of the population demands that I be stripped of all my possessions for equity and reparations purposes, well that’s a problem for me. And the other 40%. It doesn’t matter whether it was “democratic”. It just cannot be allowed, and a system… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

And, if people realize that the 60% “vote” was rigged from the beginning, voted on by people we have nothing in common with, and are actively hostile to our people.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

The people in charge rely almost exclusively on centralized power. They certainly do hate Oranias, but they increasingly will have less ability to destroy them as systems crash and burn and fragmentation follows. From the perspective of a GAE subject, I think we will see Eastern Europe first abandoned, then the Western part of the continent along with Britain and Canada, and finally the States themselves will peel away. These divisions as often as not will be along racial lines. As Z mentioned, there won’t necessarily be formal declarations of independence and formalized nation-states, and the trappings of past empire… Read more »

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

The emptiness of mere majority calculus deprives legality of all persuasive power.
Carl Schmitt, Legality and Legitimacy

One of his most underrated and under read books

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

WHOA!!!!

Guess what Orania produces?

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Answer: PECANS !!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania

I love me some pecan pie.

Mmm mmmmm good.

I wonder how the pecans made it from Appalachia to South Africa?

Some botanist must have had a genius-tier inspiration when he came up with that idea.

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

In every other area of life, problem solving begins with an assessment of the material at hand and the minimum requirements of the project.

Fair enough, with my livestock I am aware of some combination of animals that I can’t pen together in a small space for long periods, because one or more will get bullied, beaten up and underfed.

Looking at current America, penning the warring factions away from each other so they can each live in the types of societies they prefer seems like an obvious first step.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Oh come now. If you just shelter some refugee honey badgers with your bulls, they’ll come to understand each other. Heck, they could marry and have beautiful children.

JDaveF
JDaveF
1 year ago

University is the Great Sterilizer. Unless we address that issue, IQ will continue to go down.

miforest
Member
Reply to  JDaveF
1 year ago

especially for women ! my god what they have been able to do to some of my kids friends in 4 years would make the best brainwashers for the CCP blush with admiration. … come to think of it , our universities may BE the CCP’s best brainwashers!

JDaveF
JDaveF
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

Universities are on the way to beeing 100% female…..

ray
ray
Reply to  JDaveF
1 year ago

Women have ruled schools and universities for four decades already, and yet their cries of Oppression inflicted by predator males and toxic masculinity only get louder and more shrill. It’s called consolidation of power.

The U.S. and other anglo nations have been tacit gynarchies since the mid-Eighties. Nations of endlessly empowered females, and disenfranchised, scapegoated men and boys. Everybody’s precious daughter goes directly to the head of the class or job-opportunity, while the devil takes the male hindmost. That is, takes the ‘gender’ that is far more likely to resist totalitarianism and evil. Make that Eve ill.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

Funny, but the universities were pushing leftist ideology before the CCP even existed. I think universities are worse than the modern CCP which is mainly a Confucian authoritarian outfit similar to what China has always had.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  JDaveF
1 year ago

J. Rockefeller created the General Education Board along with the petropharmaceutical medical system. He wanted employee workers who learned to sit down, shut up, ask for permission, and do what they’re told.

(By the way, he was the richest man in the world.)

Robert
Robert
Reply to  JDaveF
1 year ago

Here’s my mixed feelings though: the women who go sterile and the kids who go trans, aren’t they mainly from the liberal groups?

Maybe it’s not so bad if those treasonous white groups don’t reproduce.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Robert
1 year ago

I’ve been telling people this for about two decades now: The Whites which survive the Great Culling will have Amygdalae so large that their personalities will send a chill down your spine.

Effectively it will be a renaissance of Neanderthalism, but with an infinitely more powerful ability on the part of the neo-Neanderthals to sense [and therefore to eradicate] Cro Magnon Passive-Aggression.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Viewed through this perspective, Biden’s repeated railing against “neanderthalism” takes on a whole new meaning

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

While this was an excellent podcast, I think it really doesn’t address what for me is an elephant in the room, which is the mainstream anti-White hatred and resentment. At minimum, we are going to be discriminated against in severe ways. Though I would agree that physical destruction in not in the cards for some time due to numbers alone, I wouldn’t rule it out either in the longer term. There is absolutely nothing in mainstream thought that says the anti-White training and public propaganda is going to abate. If anything, I believe it likely to become ever more hysterical… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

I agree with this in general but there is a particular point that gets lost. I haven’t seen a single demographic model, although it may have been missed, where the current White majority becomes anything other than a large/the largest plurality over the next century or so. I am among those who don’t expect the United States as the polity we now recognize to last anywhere near that long. California is an outlier now with a bare Hispanic majority, and undoubtedly this will happen as well in Texas and Arizona (it’s been the case some time in New Mexico and… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Hopefully they can hate us enough to demand some kind of apartheid

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

If they have their own national anthem performed before the Super Bowl, shouldn’t they have their own nation?

Can’t we have a separate nation for them?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 year ago

Negroes would recoil in horror from having their own nation because they know the only way they can have a decent life is when they’re sponging off whitey’s civilization. They talk the talk, but dam’ sure are not going to walk the walk. A real pity, that.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago
RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 year ago

I think we need to get our posture correct. I suspect the proper posture for us is not to ask if they can have a separate nation. I suspect it is for us to demand a separate nation for ourselves. That starts by the ongoing great separation and building our own things – including media. The problem will come when we control zero of the ports. Cost of materials and access to supply chains will be problematic. We will have to ensure that a few of the Oranias are critical major river and Oceanic ports. We’ll make it happen. Medieval… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

The sad / funny part is apartheid was introduced to keep the black tribes from killing each other.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

It is not coincidental that the race most fundamentally alien to the white race (the negroid) is the one being deified. I think the people who hate whitey the most seek to punish him by mandating negro worship. Whites are effectively forced to do obeisance to people who are their diametrical opposites physically, psychologically, intellectually, and morally. What could be more humiliating and nauseating than that?

B125
B125
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I actually disagree that Africans are the most different from Europeans. Europeans and Africans don’t have poor relationships with each other on an individual basis.

I personally feel Asians are much more alien to Europeans than Africans are.

Obviously not advocating open borders with Africa.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

Orientals are willing and able to appreciate classical music, the white man’s crowning achievement, while negroes are not. That tells you most of what you need to know.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Talking to the Filipino, I realized Denisovian Asians were the Plan B after us in the design.

They, however, couldn’t originate what we could, because they’re subject to the same spiritual vulnerability as all the other one-alleles (black/brown, one allele for hair/eye color, e.g. the nonwhites)

Their astonishing blasé cruelty is proof of this.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

pss- he thought Thanksgiving celebrated whites slaughtering all the Indians; yes, he was raised in American schools.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Yes, who/whom at is finest. Blacks don’t kill people, J……….

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I think East Asians and Africans are most opposite with Europeans in the middle. Rushton published a chart showing this to be true for dozens of traits

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

There are court cases mandating blacks be a certain percentage of actors in advertisements.

Good. Maybe that will finally put a limit on how many of them appear in them.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

Amazon Films has quotas. They seek to enforce those quotas across the entire industry. They don’t need court cases. Whites do. It won’t do any good as the judiciary is filled with and getting fuller with anti-white judges.

We will have to make our own films on our own terms and find someone to patronize them.

B125
B125
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

I feel the anti-white radicalization of POCs will not be able to be switched off. It taps into their deep-seated feelings of inferiority towards white people, in particular white men. They lap up the woke-ism and CRT. Of course, the ideology just makes the men less attractive to women, as bitter, thin skinned, whiners are not attractive to anyone. It is a very feminine mindset too, that is internalized by POC men. We basically have an entire generation of people being brought up to despise white people, their nations, and the entire West. Far beyond the normal intra-civilizational competition. It… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars, as you’ve sagely noted, Whites are blamed for everyone else’s failure everywhere they are a minority to a majority non-White. As has been said, a society may be able to do without god, but never without the devil.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Huh. Most non-white societies don’t have a God, either, no hierarchy beyond my warlord against yours, or submitting to the Emperor’s troops. I think that’s why some were delighted with the novel idea. Plenty of devils, though, as Mike Austin pointed out.

SSquirrel
1 year ago

The future is a beautiful mechanized utopia full of brown people, a la this Chobani commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ng5ZvrDm4

I for one welcome our new big booty latina waifus. The european ones aren’t exactly living up to their obligations so… bring it on!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  SSquirrel
1 year ago

The vibrant founder of Chobani, who was only able to do so via an extremely favorable SBA loan, has stated this is his life’s goal.

The problems his imported workforce has caused in Twin Falls, ID alone speak for themselves.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  SSquirrel
1 year ago

“I for one welcome our new big booty latina waifus. The european ones aren’t exactly living up to their obligations so.” Ironically, a latina or asian wife is more likely to appreciate a white husband for being white. A white women would find the idea of appreciating the race of her white husband “pathetic.” This commercial is another great example of the leftwing fantasy totally divorced from reality. They’re going to keep putting this stuff on screens even while the street fall apart in the real world and nothing works. Because “it’s the right thing to do.” They never re-examine… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

The memes about the extraction of most WN guys’ girlfriends and wives are….surprisingly accurate….

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Even ignoring the race crap in the yogurt commerical, where are all the factories and mines required to manufacture all those machines that let the brown people have their farm without doing any manual labor?

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  SSquirrel
1 year ago

This Kurdish Ben and Jerry’s wife in real life isn’t the brown princess in his commercial. SSquirel – we need to stop bagging on our women. We need to break the conditioning. There are plenty of great women in our people who are waiting for our men to man up and stop whining. Play the long game. As for the Kurdish ingrate – at least he started a business and became a billionaire. Where are our guys? Get a dairy, hire some deplorables and get cracking. You can grab a bunch of his market with a great product and a… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

‘There are plenty of great women in our people who are waiting for our men to man up and stop whining.’ Ah! The neocon fembot doth bleatest! Plenty of great women LOL. Speaking of Reality Ruling, you live in a feminist nation that has been a functional gynarchy for four decades already. You are a nation of geldings and the females that rule over them. Women control ALL of your institutions. Chow down on that Reality. The females that rule over you ascended to their positions of authority via that very ‘whining’ of which you accuse men. Meanwhile, the Prog… Read more »

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

Wow, we’re tackling fundamental taboo subjects now. That can’t be a good omen. OK, here goes. First, the Cloud People have predictive models too, and their models tell them that the ultimate solution is to homogenize everyone into an insect-like colony with worker bees, guard bees, administrative bees, and queen bees. They are working to achieve this through DNA manipulation (hello mRNA vaccines), high intensity social indoctrination (cell phone addiction), and carrot/stick behavior modification (Onlyfans/Cancel Culture). The sane among us absolutely do NOT want this outcome and will fight against this when reality can no longer be ignored. My model… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

All right, that’s it, that’s IT!

We can have segment titles, but…

You aren’t going to get a lick of work done. I’ll have a kiddie pool with half a dozen naked female oil wrestlers in that front room SO fast…

Unless tell us who is singing what song!!

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Yes -who sings that rendition of Tomorrow? You’ve played it off and on and I can never find that version.

John Smith
John Smith
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

I tracked it down, it’s by Saga. Although Zman’s lovely version has been scrubbed from english language youtube (the atonal farcical versions remain of course) I did manage to find an upload that has thus far slipped through the cracks. To avoid drawing the eye of sauron upon the source I’ve stripped the audio and put it here: https://files.catbox.moe/u9i3de.mp3

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

“Tomorrow Belongs to Me” was written for the 1966 musical “Cabaret,” which later became the 1972 film with Liza Minnelli. The musical celebrates the decadence of Weimar and warns of the rise of Nazism. As the wiki page explains, the song was intended as anti-fascist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_Belongs_to_Me The song is sung by the Hitler Youth and it’s supposed to terrify you. Funny, it has a different effect on me. Saga, the singer, clearly repurposed the song’s original intent. “Almost immediately after the first stage performances of Cabaret, it became clear that ‘Tomorrow Belongs to Me’ could widely be misunderstood. There were… Read more »

Bob Brodie
Bob Brodie
1 year ago

When the Roman Empire collapsed there weren’t thousands of nukes scattered across it. This time the whole planet might go up in smoke. Why wouldn’t at least one of the spiteful people in charge decide to take the whole world with them?

miforest
Member
Reply to  Bob Brodie
1 year ago

because the command chain to actually launch any of those is very complex and convoluted. A lot of people have to say yes and only any failure in communications, equipment or gap in procedure will stop the launch. General rainbow Milley bragged to the media that he would have never signed off on a launch if trump ordered it. one guy like that and the launch is scrubbed. for example, during the Cuban missile crisis soviets accidently sent one of their nuke subs the launch command. perfectly legitimate launch command. the sub had 4 people who had to put their… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

One of the several things the Americans learned in conferences with the Russians after the USSR dissoved which shocked them was that Nikita had indeed given Fidel the launch codes.

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
Reply to  Bob Brodie
1 year ago

This isn’t the place to get into those kinds of granular details, but there’s no guarantee (or even probability) that the human project as a whole ends because of nuclear catastrophe. Large swaths of the world will be screwed, and die, but it’s the exact kind of intense selective pressure that ensures whoever remains is actually up to the challenge of rebuilding. Scandinavia has some very resilient underground infrastructure. In America, the people most likely to hunker in Ravenrock or other hardened locales will be those who started the War (assuming they don’t bug out to Israel), but they’re not… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

Certainly not a shellfish, wot…

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Bob Brodie
1 year ago

MAD’s perfect record of deterrence to date is notable. Nothing guarantees or has ever guaranteed peace as well as nuclear weapons. Although GAE is testing that now.

DFCtomm
Member
Reply to  Bob Brodie
1 year ago

This is true and not true. Do you know how much infrastructure it takes to maintain a nuclear arsenal? I don’t mean a server farm that can be thrown up in a couple of months in Palo Alto. I mean real infrastructure like nuclear reactors and particle accelerators to produce the tritium used in the triggers. It’s only got a half life of 12 years. Couple of decades and none of the nukes work. I’ve heard in an interview that ours aren’t even being maintained now. Obama curtailed the maintenance and now a lot of the expertise has died or… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  DFCtomm
1 year ago

Granted that’s true (the tritium is depleted) = the fusion load is a dud. There is still an “atomic” (fission) bomb required to light it off. Not nearly as explosive as a fusion bomb, and perhaps smaller than the WW II A-bombs since it would have been engineered to touch off the fusion payload. Even so, a small A-bomb would do a lot of damage, far more than any conventional warhead. Actually, the above if widespread, would be a semi-merciful WW III scenario: launch all the missiles and just get 100 or a 1,000 Hiroshimas instead of the same number… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

Low-trust, collapsing society would be beneficial for the cause of white nationalism, because it would force people to retreat to kin-groups, right?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Thinking out loud that material conditions would succeed where ideology failed.

btp
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

I’d think so. It just becomes too dangerous to indulge your stupid fantasies of race not mattering and so on. If the Jewish success can be explained by their intense tribalism – in addition to various deals with dark powers – then there is a pretty good case to be made for imitating that.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

I’m not saying it’s a strategy to be adopted. Kind of messed up to will such a thing. A plausible future reality, though.

Idk, some place to start from. Normiecon could go DR3 with it, honestly. All depends how you look at it!

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

“collapsing society would be beneficial for the cause of white nationalism, because it would force people to retreat to kin-groups, right?”

You’re not taking into account the fact that your biggest enemy is shitlib whites who hate other whites, and that they’re just using brown people as pawns against their “fellow” whites.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Like btp notes, I think antiwhite animus is a luxury item for most of them.

Maybe the more likely counter is Z’s theory of the custodial state. If big corp is still able to provide, that’s who those idiots will follow.

Philosemite
Philosemite
1 year ago

I’m a low IQ doctor. You don’t have to be that smart to be a doctor. A lot of it is rote. What evidence does Dutton marshal that people are getting dumber? I would agree that average iqs are going down because low iq groups are becoming a higher percentage of the population of white countries, but among nice, white people, I get the impression that IQs are increasing. I think education is getting better(again, in white or Asian areas), at least in Stem. I know more kids who have scored 800 on the math SAT than ever were around… Read more »

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago
davidcito
davidcito
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Reaction time, math and reading skills, and per capita innovation all peaked well over a century ago. Some people say they’re relatively constant among whites and asians. Others say even whites have gone down, while asians have gone up (due to immigration from the most intelligent sects of asian countries in recent decades). Charles Murray mentioned that universities were creating an environment of high IQ parents meeting each other and having even higher IQ children, but far fewer children, in The Bell Curve from 1991.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Philosemite: Bear in mind they have renormed the SAT numerous times, so an 800 score today would have been a 600 score ‘x’ number of years ago. Many of the high scorers have also taken numerous prep classes (not nearly so routinely attended 20, 30, 40 years ago). There is also significant evidence of Asian and dot Indian cheating on the SAT. It is not a good proxy for intelligence, even if it was initially intended as such. If you want to meet some of the spergiest, most self-obsessed people go join Mensa. Raw intelligence can be quantified in a… Read more »

Philosemite
Philosemite
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I know, but the math hasn’t changed that much, that’s why I said that one. Young people are getting more woke too, but I attribute that to brainwashing.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

“better nutrition, lower rates of smoking and alcohol consumption, etc”

Mysel, herr doctor, I’d attribute their rising genius to a vastly expanded and improved supply of psychtropics and multitudinous pronouns.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Myself,
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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Myself, herr doktor
psychotropics

Geez, blew that one
You may scoff now

slumlord
slumlord
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Hi IQ and rationality are not the same thing. Hi IQ types are usually better cognitive misers than those on the left hand side of the curve.

You need to read this book if you get the chance.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Rationality-Reflective-Mind-Keith-Stanovich/dp/0195341147

An executive summary can be found here.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rational-and-irrational-thought-the-thinking-that-iq-tests-miss/

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Recent evidence on dysgenic trends (February 2021)
emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/02/recent-evidence-on-dysgenic-trends-february-2021/

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

A lot of universities are complaining that they have to remediate classes because high schools don’t teach the fundamentals. A college calculus class his dumbed down to a high school level. I do think that at the high end things are as good or better. At the same time 3g4me makes good points. Science and engineering require not savants but people who are practical and have common sense. The math is used to solve a problem. A huge number of the youngsters are so filled with propaganda they will waste their lives trying to save the planet instead of solving… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

SAT scores have been re-normed on more than one occasion in the past forty years. The questions are easier (fewer analogies and items probative of a deep vocabulary) and a perfect 800 allows for a greater number of incorrect answers.
Frankly, the correlation of increased gaming activity with higher IQ in the younger generations is a midwit idea. Stick to medicine and try to avoid causing too many iatrogenic deaths.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Today’s 800 on the SAT isn’t remotely comparable to the same score on the SAT of 50 or even 20 years ago. We are in Participation Award territory, and have been for a very long time. Please place your tray in the upright and locked position and fasten your seat belt. We are going to be in for some turbulence.

Rajuncajun
Reply to  Philosemite
1 year ago

Philosemite: Letting people know you’re a doctor was tactically gonna end any rational discussion of any point that you’re gonna make on this site. It took A mere minutes for the ad hominem personal attacks against your intelligence to begin. Even though you headed them off at the pass by being self deprecating. And you know what? This is one of the most telling outcomes of Covid. Drs. Have slowly destroyed the trust between themselves and patients over decades, but they was still a baseline level of affection between them and their patients, where most patients felt like the doctor… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
1 year ago

when you talk of “materiel at hand” also think of “energy at hand”. even now the termites are dismantling our energy production. without cheap fossil fuel – and reliable delivery of same – you are talking about a fire wood based economy…and a concomitant population level. huge swaths of this continent are uninhabitable in the absence of oil based energy. the sustainable population is whatever it was back in the early 1800’s.

davidcito
davidcito
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

Great point. The midwest plus texas and maybe alberta and saskatchewan should start their own country. That will give them all the food and oil they’d ever need, plus access to the gulf of mexico and the great lakes for international trade. The coastal liberals can enjoy their bug protein and electric vehicles… until the cobalt, cadmium, and lithium mines in africa are cut off.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  davidcito
1 year ago

Last night at happy hour a bugman told me the EV metals shortage would be solved by mining asteroids.

He’s one of those types that grew up in a rural area believing it’s his life’s duty to reject and demonize his roots as hard as possible.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

It being a Holy Crusade, they trust that Providence will ensure victory

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Hilarious. We’ve not even been able to get back to the moon. Asteroid belt? Mining? Transporting ore for processing—here or in space? Timeline? This guy is a midwit at best.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Comp-

I’m sad to say the guy is a director of R&D at a sister firm under the corporate umbrella over both of us.

Now, I think I’ll go have another beer or seven.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Still, he is a Midwit. Dutton describes these folk as smart enough to say what is expected/approved by their peers for approval and advancement, but *not* smart enough to understand the error in what they say.

I’m paraphrasing here, but the gist is correct.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Noted, thanks!

“ERROR: Your comment was too short. Please go back and try your comment again.”

Panzernutter
Panzernutter
1 year ago

I’ve already written off the airports of USA, it’s not just the pilots, it’s the fellas and lovely ladies, the traffic get there, the cancellations. I listened to the podcast sitting in my f150 in los Angeles while droves of Koreans walk and drive by with masks on. Tomorrow belongs to me made , how should put this, melancholy…

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
1 year ago

Ed Dutton’s interest in IQ strikes me as a lot less solipsistic and narcissistic than that of someone like Sailer or Moldbug. Sure, it’s a matter of the edges where the really smart and stupid dwell, but it’s ultimately about the mean. Something like theoretical physics is fascinating, but if you like flushing toilets and roads that don’t break your axels, you have to think about the “humpback” of the bell. Also super-intelligent people usually need an armature of decent, practical people to help them survive long enough to make cool inventions. My example is always the professor with bad… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

The 3rd world hasn’t hit bottom yet. That happens after all subsidization by the 1st world is gone. Which is kind of macabre to think about when you look at Haiti. Yes, it can get worse. So perhaps the desires of third worlders will change. Of course most of them won’t have the mental capacity to connect their dire situation to whitey’s absence.

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Even a cat or dog can figure out who’s feeding it. I’m pretty sure Africans know who kept the lights on. The question is will they be able to admit it, or be too humiliated by the potential admission, to welcome the colonizers back?

miforest
Member
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

if you look at south africa today, it is dammed close to losing the ability to keep the lights on .
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/energy/ramaphosa-davos-south-africa-blackouts/index.html
Zimbabwe is close too
https://cite.org.zw/zim-experiences-nationwide-power-blackout/

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

Believe it or not, Jonah Goldberg once wrote a piece in NRO advocating for whites recolonizing Africa in order to baby sit the negroes. I suspect that article has been buried under the very deepest of the memory-dungeons.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“The White Man’s Burden 2: Electric Boogaloo”

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

My example is always the professor with bad dandruff who can fill a chalkboard with equations but then somehow locks himself in the classroom and needs a janitor to let him out. Would you have an actual example of this? Because a high IQ usually means high competences across the board: better at math, better at languages, better at cooking, better at fixing cars, better at socializing, better at cleaning your room and so forth. The helpless genius sounds very much like a movie trope to me. Aside: in Jeddah Airport, in Saudi, they have an imam praying to god… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

That trope comes from stories about Einstein, and it’s the same trope as “Rich people aren’t really happy” or “Sure his dick is ten inches but now he can’t wear gym shorts without getting arrested so actually I’m better off”.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Yes. It’s like if you’re good at math, you must be bad at something else because that’s how cosmic equity works.

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I think you’re conflating high-average with off-the-charts high. High average people are indeed the most stable and successful. But they’re not the ones who rock the very foundations of the world with their discoveries, letting one or another group leapfrog lightyears over others. When we’re talking about these kinds of people, there are many, many examples of super-geniuses doing incredibly dumb things throughout history. Tyco Brahe for instance, did things without a telescope that most people can’t even do today with the most advanced instruments. Kepler called him one of the most brilliant men he’d ever known. Kepler also watched… Read more »

Felix Krull
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Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

The story about Tycho Brahe’s exploding bladder is urban legend. He was a great party-goer and a legendary fucker with a scoreboard to rival Casanova’s. He most likely died from mercury poisoning and was, by all accounts, a skilled socialite, if a bit irascible at times. That’s why he managed to obtain patronage from both the Danish king and the Austrian Emperor. As for Thales, the story is apocryphal as you say, same as with wossisname, the Eureka-guy running naked through the streets of Alexandria because he had a good idea. I’ve known a lot of smart people and only… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
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Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

Isaac Newton was another. Completely irascible, unpleasant, and eccentric. He was constantly running into people because his mind was literally elsewhere. Or, he’d just sit down in the middle of a busy stairwell in order to think. The British university system of the time tolerated him because he was so obviously a towering genius.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Beethoveen often couldn’t be bothered to eat, change clothes or bathe. He sat at his piano for days. He had more important things on his mind than those mundane considerations.

This is one example of genius who is not like the rest of us mortals, even the very smart ones

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Fair enough, although it seems a rather trivial eccentricity – Mozart was a certified loon, but very extrovert. I suspect musical talent falls outside the scheme.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Then there was John Nash of A Beautiful Mind fame. While I was living in Princeton, I heard from the people there that Nash was loathed because of his creepy and pervy public proclivities. Hint–you might not want to walk into the public loo when he was at the urinal. His mind was apparently too far out there for him to even be aware of public mores.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

No, it’s not a movie trope. The absentminded professor, like all so-called “stereotypes,” is rooted in reality. I’ve spent the vast majority of my life around professors, and a very high percentage of them are mechanically incompetent, i.e. couldn’t figure out how to use a VCR in classroom and had to call upon one of the kids to do it for him.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Hmmm… A lot of the professors I’ve dealt with had a definite technophobic streak – one of them refusing to even touch computers. I saw it as a kind of peacocking, as being aloof to mundane stuff like counting machines; my dad had the same, he refused to learn how to change oil because that was a menial task, very much beneath him. But I wonder how much is laziness? You just sit back and tell the student to do the VCR-thing. Speaking as a married man, you get a long way by pretending you don’t understand how the washing… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Yes, there may have been an element of aristicratic avoidance of mastering the grubby details of la vie quotidienne.

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Legendary mathematician Paul Erdös made a complete and utter mess of a friend’s kitchen cause he couldn’t even make toast for example. Also, never learned to drive a car.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I knew a white American air mechanic who had worked in Jeddah. He said he was talking once to their chief mechanic, a distant Royal family member appointed to his position.

The chief mechanic was holding open a large manual while talking to him, most likely as an emblem of his authority…because he was unaware, that he was was “reading” it upside down.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Coming to an airport near you…

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

LaQuisha has the controls.

Wj
Wj
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I had math professors that could explain Laplace transforms without a book or notes but they were someone I wouldn’t trust to change a tire. I’ve worked with chemical engineers that could explain every aspect of a natural gas cryogenic processing plant that I wouldn’t trust to assemble a bed frame.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

joeyjünger: “Do the other groups admit this and get out of the way, or does their jealousy and hatred mean they prefer to live in a bloody world without plumbing and with potholed roads as long as the strongman looks like them?” Unfortunately, I strongly believe the latter to be true. As long as they’re being grifted and/or oppressed by one of their own, they will be fine with it. The last remaining Whites who will have sold their souls for a job serving the diverse will be blamed for all failures, regardless. See South Africa today (or Detroilet, Chicongo,… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

One of the more amusing characteristics of China-men is that rudeness seems to be a core virtue of their culture, so they’ll tell you exactly what they think of other races without having to first get drunk.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Good for them. White people used to be like that, too.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Quite so to 3g4me. The Chinese also have millenia-long memories, and will never forget, nor forgive, what “we” did to them.

Of course, the “we” in these cases- opium trade, communist revolution, and the currency collapse with Mexican silver flooding their nascent economy- weren’t “we” at all, but our ‘fellow whites’ up to their usual tricks. As was the corrupt outsourcing of our end-stage kapitalism, for which we’ll receive no thanks.

No matter. All white-skinned bignose roundeyes look alike.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

“As long as they’re being grifted and/or oppressed by one of their own, they will be fine with it.”

Because with him, they can imagine taking his place. He got there, why can’t they?

Not so with you.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Alzaebo: Excellent point, succinctly stated.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I remember going to a music competition at a big city a while back. It was full of Chinese kids playing the violin. Their playing was superb in its accuracy – but completely missing the soulfulness and meaning that the composers put into it. And while everyone else was there for a good time, the parents of the kids glared at them like Medusas, daring them to make the tiniest error.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

Joey, I can—and do—clean my own toilets, thanks. What I can’t do is design a modern integrated circuit, nor create modern medicines, not rebuild jet engines, etc.

Those skills, and most others of import, take an advanced IQ and of course years of dedicated study and conscientiousness.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

Joey writes about asians:

“Derb constantly remind us.” His frequent updates on China seem to indicate that he believes that we care even a fraction of the amount that he does.

“But they’re too authoritarian and frankly soulless.”

Yes.

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

“At the moment, the half-wits have not yet managed to penetrate into vital positions, such as air traffic control.”

Well, the half-wits most certainly have penetrated into ATC in the U.S.

Sure sounds like an affirmative-action ATC to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjoDn8zQgb8

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Sorry, f–ed up the reply to jan in Germany:

“Here in Germany it is very noticable that government and private enterprises are now relying on people that would have been regarded as unemployable 20 years ago. At the moment, the half-wits have not yet managed to penetrate into vital positions, such as air traffic control. But they’ll get there, eventually.”

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

The sound of the ATC was stone Boo Boo.

Gnome sane?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Oh, they’re close.

JFK Terminal 1 has been shut for two days due a power failure caused by a fire in an electrical panel in a utility room.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I guess that was the cause of that NZ jet turning around while halfway to the states and heading back home instead of landing at, say, Newark.

I know last year I go on a flight and they had a woman pilot at the helm and for the first time in forever I was nervous about flying. Yes, a woman can be a decent pilot, but is there anyone, and I mean anyone, who would take the bet that she was hired strictly due to her ability?

Ancient Mason
Ancient Mason
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 year ago

Affirmative Action casts a pall over the genuine achievements of any “diverse” employee or professional. As you described – one can never know.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ancient Mason
1 year ago

Just so. Nevertheless, you’re an evil rayciss or sexist for noticing that reality.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Ancient Mason
1 year ago

Yep. I was a navy guy in the 80s when the first blacks were coming onboard. The three or four we had were very good because we knew they got their on merit. Today? It’s probably AA.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 year ago

ES-

They could have easily rerouted to the underused Stewart International (SWF) in Newburgh, NY and put the travelers on a 3 hour charter bus ride to JFK.

But allowing the plebes to get on with their lives has no place in the Davos plan.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 year ago

It’s amusing how “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” has become an anthem of the right given it was originally supposed to be a dark omen to the rise of Nazism. Same effect as “Keep your rifle by your side”, another banger.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Screw it, I’ll own Jack D. Ripper’s rant about precious bodily fluids. Ironic not ironic lol

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Same as Archie Bunker.

Or Alex Keaton from Family Ties, where in the first season, Alex (and his dad) was cast as the clown, there to be ridiculed and humiliated by his smart and sassy sisters and his wise momma.

Then people started wearing “Alex Keaton For President”-tshirts, and they rewrote season 2 to make Alex the lead of the show. If it were made in 2023, they’d have responded by writing him out of the script entirely, fired the producer and accused Michael J. Fox of being a Nazi.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Offerman’s character on Parks and Recreation was another that was supposed to be the caricature to be ridiculed and turned out to be the most popular

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Haven’t heard of it, but I see the problem: the easy way to make satire is exaggerating the traits you don’t like. But if those traits are wholesome and white, you only make a hero for white people.

So in Tomorrow Belongs To Me, they emphasized the virtues of the ethnonationalism they hate so much and made a spine-shivering masterpiece for those with the ears to hear it.

DFCtomm
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

The same way Trump made all that negative news coverage in 2016 into campaign ads, and the media didn’t even have a clue they were carrying his message. They thought they were mocking him.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Rifle By Your Side is good too, but they botched one of the verses:

And when I see your face
I know I must protect my place

Anyone here who can think of a better rhyme than “place”?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I bet the other, better, rhyme was in the original, but some corporate type demanded it be toned down.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

and then Mr Keaton (the father) moved to Nevada and changed his name to Bert Gummer. :p

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

“the place to start when thinking about the politics of the future is the material that will be available in the future”

Very Aristotelian of you, Z.

nil
nil
1 year ago

Re: post-Roman Spain, the accounts of Jews having so much power or owning Christian slaves are religious polemics that have nothing to do with the presence of any actual Jews. They were just exhorting Christians to behave better. There weren’t any Jews in Spain until after the Islamic conquest. It’s more like Oklahoma banning Sharia than anything else.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  nil
1 year ago

Oh, I seriously doubt that. During the imperial Roman age, Jews spread throughout the Mediterranean, and Hispania, you will note, was–and still is!–squarely on the Med.

nil
nil
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Nonetheless, it’s true! My source here is volume 1 of the Cambridge Medieval history.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  nil
1 year ago

It literally took me less than thirty seconds to debunk the claim that there were no Jews in Spain before the Muslim invasion. Lie better next time.

Marko
Marko
1 year ago

Z-man: you’ve built a nice little cult yourself…

You haven’t told me much about picking up women, but when you tell me to despise neocons and Straussians, I say “How much sir!”

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Sheee-it Marko, you and I both know that with that sultry voice, the Z-man has no problem with the ladies. We mere mortals can only hope to bask in his glory. Some power cannot be safely shared.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 year ago

Luckily I have no need of picking up a lady anymore. But I do need help picking up sexy political takes and hot cultural critiques.

pantoufle
pantoufle
1 year ago

This was you “winging it”? Surely one of your best ever. Well done.

Armenio Pereira
Armenio Pereira
1 year ago

The Everlasting Dissatisfaction – aka God in Western Civ – created us to have some comic relief from the ordeal of eternity.
We shall not disappoint.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Jeff Beck, arguably the most uniquely expressive guitar player ever, recently passed away. At the beginning of his career, 1966, he was in the Yardbirds with Jimmy Page, and they wrote a song called “Shape of Things,” the title of Z Man’s post today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOc-_GpfF1w

In this song, Beck employs possibly the first use of feedback for dramatic effect.

“Shapes of things before my eyes
Just teach me to despise
Will time make men more wise?”

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Sorry but his title today more likely comes from HG Well’s The Shape of Things to Come. Oddly, I just watched the 1937 sci fi a couple of weeks ago on The Criterion Channel. Raymond Massey. Ralph Richardson. It is kind of creepy in that it predicts a war in 1940. Only the war goes on and on into the 1960s and finally England and presumably the world collapses into little fiefdoms. By the 1970s the city in the story is mostly ruined and is run by a war lord. But the high IQ scientists have survived and start to… Read more »

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Also, this song from the 1968 Boomer classic movie “Wild in the Streets,” where the voting age is dropped to 15, 22-year-old Max Frost becomes president, mandatory retirement is 30 and everyone over 35 is sent to LSD camps. Richard Pryor is the drummer in the band, Stanley X. It’s groovy, baby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqWCH_4srU&ab_channel=cherylharrell1961

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Oh Z, a TRIUMPH ad?!?!

If late stage British Leyland is our fate, we’re f🤬cked.

pulchri
pulchri
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Boeing seems to be heading down that road with it’s sky avoidant/ground attracted 737s.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Actually, what sank Boeing was exactly what we are talking about—they attempted to replace a skilled and high IQ pilot with a push button plane to be flown by third world mediocrities.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Mr Line, I feel I must correct your knowledge of musical history. It was The Who, with Anyway Anyhow Anywhere, in 1965, who first used guitar feedback for effect. Apparently, some radio stations initially refused to play the record, assuming it was defective.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 year ago

https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=29358#comment-342143

“ERROR: Your comment was too short. Please go back and try your comment again.”

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 year ago

let me introduce you to a little ditty that was released in 1958: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFCpUZVyXgg&ab_channel=ClassicRockonMV

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 year ago

Others credit The Beatles with their 1964 hit “I Feel Fine” for being the first “official” recording of guitar feedback, but only the first few seconds of the song.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Z Man writes, “White nationalism, for example, suffers from the same problem as libertarianism. It exists only as an idea.” Point taken. I am a white nationalist and I have little short term vision about the tactics that are required to lead us from here to our goal. Other people are better at this than me, but I think Z Man’s point is a good one. When comparing libertarianism and White Nationalism however, I will just note that WN is much more firmly grounded in reality than libertarianism. Reality persists, and like the persistence of gravity, reality will pull events… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

To their great credit, libertarians were one of the few groups without malice or spite. They intended the greatest good for the greatest number, they had a vision for it, a hallmark of positive identity. Thus, positive identity alone will not be enough.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

” libertarians were one of the few groups without malice or spite. . .They intended the greatest good for the greatest number.”

That’s all well and good if everybody agrees, acts in good faith, and is on the same team.

Doesn’t work with enemies, subverters, and parasites. Enemies have be hated and fought.

No such thing as a purely “positive” identity. Someone who truly loves must hate that which opposes that love.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Lib’s were/are the Fabians of their time.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

White nationalism, at least for the foreseeable future, is going nowhere. The biggest obstacle to realizing a White Nationalist state or even movement is most White people simply do not see themselves as self-consciously White and belonging to a larger White ethnicity. Not only do we not have this natural self-conscious identity, but most White people have a belief system propagandized to them their entire lives that a White identity is inherently evil. Those of us who do have it, myself included, it is largely because of peculiar circumstances of our lives. I’ve been self-consciously White for almost as long… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Can definitely verify. That was me, full of Boomer libertarian wishy-washy goody-goodness.
I even voted for Bush.

I used to get pissed daily at conservative radio, but I couldn’t quite say why. Even then I disagreed with much more of what they spouted than I thought, but couldn’t color outside the lines.

(For me, the bridge across was asking, “why do so many retards hate the J**s?”)

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars

Nice, tight post. A few comments I have are;

I’m not sure what you mean about being “self consciously white”.
If that means saying “Thank You” and “your welcome”, providing for yourself and your family, and showering regularly, then I guess I’m self consciously white.

And don’t forget,(to purloin a phrase from Fight Club),White Nationalists don’t talk about White Nationalism. Especially at this point in history. (At least not on public blogs. We save that for the secret meetings).

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

What I mean by self-consciously White is internalizing “White.” I’ll give you a different example… A lot of Boomers internalize the word Boomer. If you say “Boomers are X,” they will reflexively reply. If X is perceived as good, they will agree and amplify. If they perceive it negatively, they will deny and deflect. When you say “Boomers are x” they hear “YOU are X” They understand instinctively that you are talking about them personally. I’ve never internalized Gen-X despite being in that generation. You can say anything about it and I will never hear it as “YOU are X”… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Regarding the Finkels, they will tell you they are Finkels because it is not an obvious thing. Unless his name is Schlomo Rosenstein and he’s wearing forelocks and a funny hat, you probably won’t suppose any given Finkel is a Finkel. This is not true with whites. Our whiteless is obvious for all to see, and the Finkels are so exiguous we feel no need to differentiate ourselves from them. Regarding the nuggras, part of the reason they identify so strongly as nuggras is because they’re a small, and very alien minority in a (temporarily) white society. They develop a… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

This younger Xer went to happy hour last night with 5 older Millennial white males.

To a man, their comments demonstrated they are completely brainwashed to hate themselves and their people.

Yes, anecdotes are not data, but this episode only reinforced my gut feeling we are in big trouble as a people.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Anecdotes are better than data, imo. I believe my own eyes and ears.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

An anecdote is a datum.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I’m mildly surprised you got them to put down their phones long enough to make those comments. That was my big takeaway from Christmas with extended family. Everybody but me glued to their phone.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

It has dawned on me that the defining characteristic of the DR is its utter rejection of postmodernity, including its appurtenances such as sail foams. Find me a guy who loathes them and you’ll have found me an ally.

Galen
Galen
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

What may I ask, are the “peculiar circumstances” of your life? I came to white nationalism for similar reasons, but I am very happy to be white nationalist. It’s one thing I would never trade, even though I agree that it’s prospects are dim.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Galen
1 year ago

I got sent to a public school fairly far away from my house where white kids were a plurality and not a majority. My neighborhood was entirely White, but the school was not. I got to experience first hand in the 70s and 80s what it will be like for kids today who are also a plurality (on average, some schools are near 100% White). All of the white kids’ nickname was apparently “White boy!” It wasn’t just the kids either. Teachers did it. The non-teachers did it. The lunch ladies did it. Race was a significant factor of everyday… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Yep. The most based Whites are late Boomers/Early X’ers who were forcibly bussed from their nice ‘burbs to inter-city schools. They have absolutely no illusions about Vibrancy. Those who relate their stories to me will be the Vanguard is things pop off before they are too geezerly.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“Most White people have no problem saying things like “we must eliminate whiteness” without thinking twice about it.”

When you hear that, please point out that is pure genocide. And it would be obvious if someone talked about eliminating blackness or Asian-ness.

Ask them if the Chinese are doing that to themselves. Or the Japanese. Or any black country on Earth. Why is it only white countries.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

“White nationalism, for example, suffers from the same problem as libertarianism. It exists only as an idea.”

But it existed as reality and as social and legal policy prior to 1965 or so.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Just so. And it existed in Europe prior to decolonization. De facto, France was for Frenchmen, Spain was for Spaniards, and Sweden was for Swedes. These were ethnic rather than racial identities, but that’s largely irrelevant because the notion that those countries would willingly import negroes, Moslems and orientals, en masse, would have been too laughable to even be entertained. Alas, there is a species of laughter now. It appears to be issuing from the bowels of Hell.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

It still exists on the Continent, even in Germany. France is very self-conscious ethno-nationals, but in real, mono-tribal societies like Scandinavia, people don’t even think about ethnicity: it is understood that there are indigenous people and “asylum seekers”; and that “asylum seeker”, “immigrant” and “Moslem” are synonyms for “brown people”. Even the regime journalists make this dichotomy when they’re not reading from a globohomo script: “Are Danes racist towards Moslems?” would be a typical headline, forgetting that we’re supposed to treat the Moslems as Danes. I suppose it’s a bit like rich kids not understanding money or fish not understanding… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Alas, somewhere along the way European white nationalism shed its powers of self preservation. It may still exist, but in such an etiolated form that it serves as little more than a compost from which we may hope that the older more robust version emerges once more.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Indeed – in fact I think unconscious ethno-nationalism works against self-preservation precisely because it’s so pervasive nobody talks about it – I figure fish never worry about running out of water either. I have no actual numbers, but I suspect 23&me isn’t making much money here. Denmark has been a backwater for most of history, so if you’re Danish it’s no big mystery where your ancestors are from. If there’s a Swede or a Norwegian or a Brit in the woodpile, you’ll know about it because that would make them stand out in the family lore. It struck me the… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
1 year ago

Hmmmmmmmmm. The coming conflagration is going to be messy indeed. Everyone will be against everyone. Unlikely and here-to-fore impossible alliances will need to form for like minded peoples to survive. I wonder? Could some form of workable, viable and limited civic nationalism emerge from that? Consider: the world is on fire. Bullets fly and blades flash in the streets. Blood feuds erupt. Assassination, terrorism, and massacres are every day events. I can see allying with maybe the orientals because I need to deal with the marauding blacks and the progressives from another neighborhood. Something is going to have to be… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

I’d suggest the basic framework for this can consist of a fairly simple set of rules that the “based” of many races can assent to all the while maintaining their segregated identities. I’d start with: 1. Women’s authority needs to be completely rolled back and negated. The simple rule here is “defy any order from any woman unless a man of your tribe vouchsafes it.” Then ask why that guy needed to hide behind a skirt in the first place. The groundwork for removing female suffrage needs to be set out early. Even allowing the inclusion of many non-Whites, removing… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
1 year ago

Brazil do Norte is what we will become.

You may even want to visit Brazil, now that they’ve dropped their covid-19 vaxx policy, just to see what it will be like for us circa 2050.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
1 year ago

Yep, some weird mix of Mexico, Brazil, Texas, California, Mississippi and southern Ohio.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
1 year ago

Isn’t the reinstalled Lula forcing jabs to continue on the dole in Brazil?

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
1 year ago

A tad optimistic. For example Brazil has one (*1*) nuclear power plant. Just in Ohio there are two. And so it goes with everything.
“Sticky downward” is the term we’re stuck with, after all there’s a big difference between having one nuclear power plant and wanting another one but lacking the human capital to do so, and having a dozen but only having enough people to run one.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

It’s funny. I was just mulling around this question in head last night. (Doing simple math helps me fall asleep.) Playing around with population percentages from 1970 to 2030 and than multiplying them by different group IQ and propensity to violence got me these overall numbers for the combined populations. IQ 1970 – 98 (whites are 100) 2030 – 94-95 Violence level 1970 – 150 2020 – 167 Obviously, these are completely random guesses, but I’d suspect that they aren’t too far off. That drop in IQ from 98 to 94.5 doesn’t seem like much, but it puts you in… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

What’s worse is the gap between the racial groups will be far worse, so the level of envy will be 10x what it is now (if you can imagine that). Just imagine how bad the blax will be at that point. It is incomprehensible. I wonder where you will have to go to spot a white person at that point?

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

given that we are talking about a new age that cannot afford subsidies, further given that blacks are heavily subsidized, i have just one question…what blacks?

just how do these useless fukwits survive the cull? they are already being hunted by mexicans. once do gooder whites are out of power (also happening now) who will protect them – especially from themselves?

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

Aside from us being gone, you are describing my dream scenario. Admittedly, my view is clouded by my extreme disdain for them…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Exactly. The concept of the “smart fraction” is what has masked the general decline in population IQ. Heretofore we had a excess in the smart fraction, so taking on the burden of low intellect “migrants” seemed without consequence.

Now we have two major (at least) occurrences converging rapidly: The older and better educated White population dying off and the saturation of the population with low level IQ migrants—for example, last year’s influx is estimated to have increased population of the USA by 1.5-2.0%, and they ain’t engineers!

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Good post –

“and they ain’t engineers!”

They’re dindus (dindu nuffin) and people just turning their life around. Good boys, you know?

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Look at the train derailments for the evidence of how this will go. That is assuming they were not sabotage. Which is entirely possible.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  george 1
1 year ago

Or that bridge collapse in Miami in 2018. The report concluded that the engineers didn’t know what they were doing. I remember hearing things about young women engineers involved, but it’s not like wikipedia is going to report on that aspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Don’t forget the condo collapse in Florida.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

The condo collapse is the big one. At least 5 years of study and noting degradation—yet no one could grasp the “whole”—the imminent collapse indicated by obvious structural deterioration at pivotal points. Heck, it even started before the condo was built when the foundations driven were found to be faulty and then “corrected” through a hack.

This is an example of lowered IQ and what will be commonplace when the society exceeds the carrying capacity of the “smart fraction” that remains. Stupid people do stupid things.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

The recent severe earthquakes that have claimed tens of thousands in Turkey are another example. Hundreds of buildings were built below code. Works fine until the ground shakes a bit…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Ben, even worse. I was informed by my son—but not confirmed separately—that the building codes are “flexible”. The builder can pay a small “fine” for not following them. The fine is of course always cheaper than doing the correct up-to-code work!

The implication was that one could easily replace the word *fine* for *bribe*. I don’t have experience in construction, but son is an engineer and has been overseas to inspect company projects. He might have some insight.

Shrinking Violet
Shrinking Violet
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

The cities may be “nice,” but won’t they also be extremely oppressive and tyrannical? Seems like the choices will be, either to live as a slave in a police-state metropolis, or to light out for the hinterlands and become prey to bandits and warlords.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
1 year ago

This is where that grey man stuff comes in. Your freedom, such as it may be, will be found in your anonymity, in nobody noticing or caring about you. Hiding in plain sight. This necessitates avoiding getting too plugged in technologically. Maybe you have an internet connection and an email address, but that’s about it. No social media presence connected to your name. No smart devices in your home. Etc. Don’t be the low hanging fruit.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Wish I could upvote this more than once.

Spot on.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Sounds like The Forest Passage by Ernst Jünger

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Being a “grey man” won’t save what’s left of our world. Only fighting back will do that. Trying to stay under the radar no longer works in an age of smart tech. They’ll just lower the radar.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
1 year ago

how will cities that are dystopian shit holes now, become “nice” after the fall of white America?

btp
Member
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
1 year ago

Or, become a warlord. Maybe work for a warlord.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Missing from this is how the low IQ people pull down the higher IQ people. it doesn’t really matter what the “smart fraction” is if they have to go to school and live with the “dumb fraction” There is a story going around in the MSM right now about how DC has all these schools were not a single child can read, write or compute at grade level. While neighborhoods being largely based on income helps explain some of this, a significant portion the smart fraction comes from the low fraction. Using average IQ alone in my mind (and I… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Here in Tucson, second largest school district in AZ, 13% of students proficient at grade level in Math and 22% proficient at grade level in Reading. These are State administered tests.

However, one must note that decent White folk simply don’t go to public schools do to this environment of non-hackers.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Arizona has a state income tax credit which applies to private school education. Anyone who can afford it sends their kids to private schools. Public schools are for those woth no other option

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Maus
1 year ago

This is true, but starting last year school funding—up to $7k or so—goes with the student. If the new Dem governor is held in check, we should see a great drop in public education and an increase in private alternatives. However, the results will not really change that much. Why? Because in the example I cite, the school district no longer contains Whites, only minorities, predominately Hispanic. Those students are not of the quality of those Whites they replaced as the average IQ is 90 and even worse for Blacks—and we’ve not even discussed behavioral problems. The concept of poor… Read more »

jan
jan
1 year ago

What kind of society? The kind in which – to get things done – you need the patience to explain simple tasks s-l-o-o-o-w-l-y, with many repetitions. Here in Germany it is very noticable that government and private enterprises are now relying on people that would have been regarded as unemployable 20 years ago. At the moment, the half-wits have not yet managed to penetrate into vital positions, such as air traffic control. But they’ll get there, eventually. Provided any kind of industrial or modestly advanced society can be maintanied with such personell, the political system governing it must be idiot… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  jan
1 year ago

The civilizations that rise from the ashes will need to get a grasp on how to curtail the dysgenics of modern societies. This doesn’t necessarily mean forced sterilizations and killing the mentally deficient, but it does mean there should be a clear correlation between IQ and other fitness measures and offspring, say a birth rate of 1 per woman for IQ85 and 6 for IQ120+. There’s also a possibility of genetic engineering, but, given the complexity of the genome and the inability to see secondary effects, that may well range from disappointing to catastrophic for anything more complex than basic… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Genetic engineering—even if perfected—takes time. Doubtful it can surmount the amount of mutation and poor genetic inheritance subsumed in our current population in time to resurrect what we had three generations ago. Not to mention that the current substandard population is not going to “vote” for their elimination readily. So what we can expect is the country’s functionality to decline to match the population support structure decline. In the future, we will hire out for more and more of our higher order needs wrt people with ability. What/how we pay them is unclear. SA is an interesting example of the… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Let me put on my conspiracy cap for a moment: eugenics failed the KISS test, so now that crowd took the lesson and is going for the cull, based on whatever PhDs and dropouts share. I wonder what effect eliminating the mediocrities would have?

jan
jan
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Curtailing the worst excesses of dysgenics will happen by itself, once the money for gibs programs runs out or gets hyperinflated. For the rest: I hope the future people in charge will realize that the kind of plan you outlined is necessary and must be carried out.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

keep in mind that “intelligence” and “fitness” are not synonyms. the lower iq squatemalans just might be better adapted to the new age, than higher iq normies will be.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  jan
1 year ago

Purely anecdotally, here in the US and my corner of the tech/science world, everyone is slammed with work and scrambling to find people at all levels of experience.

jan
jan
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Can confirm. In my world, being able to hire a competent & available sound engineer for a video shoot is like winning the lottery.

Shrinking Violet
Shrinking Violet
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I have heard the exact same thing from the tech managers I know. AND from a chef I know, who can’t find competent line cooks and dish washers!!!! heaven help us.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Of course. Not only did we fail to provision for future STEM people as the Boomers retire, between social disgust and COVID 19 anyone who can opt out has opted out . There is a another problem too, with the fragged marriage /female situation a lot of guys while not hustle and grind types but solid workers anyway have stopped working very hard Too many men without families who have the IQ to do well have no reason too support a society that is failing So there are already higher IQ guys who are just not bothering which further shrinks… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I keep hearing this but so far my job search turns up a lot of people who seem interested and then ghost me for unknown reasons. I suspect some of the blame is with Brandon, et. al. screwing up the economy in ways no one thought possible 5 years ago. Still, if you have a lead on something in embedded software (C++) or even web dev send me a feedback at the blog I link in my handle.

Ponder Ray
Ponder Ray
Reply to  jan
1 year ago

And yet the lower IQ folks built great stonework and stained glass cathedrals, roads that lasted for millennia, and simple printing presses. We only really need a few very smart folks, as long as the rest can follow instructions. One Leonardo Da Vinci to a million bricklayers, one George Washington Carver or Eli Whitney to a million cotton pickers, one Singer to a million garment workers. We’re not that special, as long as we can get along with each other.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Ponder Ray
1 year ago

Yet it only takes one centurion to kill an Archimedes.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ponder Ray
1 year ago

To get a clearer picture of what you note and why you should be less optimistic, read Dutton’s “The Genius Famine”.

Not only do we not have these very smart folk at the top, but the bottom is increasingly incompetent to do the simplest things.

Pantoufle
Pantoufle
1 year ago

Love Ed Dutton. Love his books.

CuriousGeorge
CuriousGeorge
1 year ago

Please Zman what is that version of Scarborough Fair you use?

CuriousGeorge
CuriousGeorge
Reply to  CuriousGeorge
1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9bpiIugcJE

Serves me right. Was never a fan of theirs.

Maxda
Maxda
1 year ago

Everything you said about Tate would apply to Zelensky and much of our government.
He was literally a clown and in a saner time, he would have aspired to become head court jester.
AOC was literally a barmaid and is now considered a political thinker – with no achievements in between.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

Two good examples – but that list could go on and on…and on.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

I take some umbrage to the manosphere bashing. The internet is a double edged blade. Sure…you get fags like Cerno, Tate and Vox Day… but you also get guys like Z, Dutton, et al. And – we can gather at such sites and compare notes. I grew up in a progressive hive and somewhere around 2013 every single woman in hive flipped their lids all at once. My daughter came home from school as an angry, militant lesbian. Millions of millennials had come of age but never grew up. The menstrual and menopausal women dutifully celebrated and demanded I do… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

Thanks for calling out Vox Day. He’s a tubby trust fund kid living in a Swiss castle. Vastly over-rated.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Steve
1 year ago

Vox actually works for a living, has been a musician and a writer and now runs a niche publisher supporting RW causes,

Maybe he is a bit absurd at times and maybe he has some of daddies money but he’s a friendly

Also best I know he lives in Italy

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

The oligarchs love paying these few hundred politicians to have vegetables thrown at them and take the heat for decisions made in private

Maxda
Maxda
1 year ago

If Andrew Tate was just a bit smarter, he never would have remained in Romania and exposed himself to the risk of that legal system. That can keep him locked up a long time without a trial just because the Americans requested it.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

Expatriating ain’t what it used to be. The CIA rendition publicized during the WoT was a big early clue about that. The places left that are beyond imperial reach probably aren’t going to let you in anyway. Or are beyond reach because they are too shitholey for the empire to care to reach there.

Recently a griller friend pointed out to me the example of a disgruntled with the USA acquaintance who “put his money where his mouth is” and moved to Antigua. What? That’s not even leaving.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

He couldn’t have got away without going full third-world, and even then I’m not sure. I don’t click TRENDING so I don’t know how Tate became the target he is now. I know the boilerplate—”canceled” reality contestant thrust into fame as whoremonger-philosopher out of hiphop mythology—and something’s wrong with it. What I do know is I never heard of him until suddenly one day he was banned from everything and the story from “educators” (repeated in every medium, ad nauseam) was: Any time a male child shows any resistance to current_year, the kid was brainwashed by Tate. When those harpies… Read more »

Severian
1 year ago

Something along the lines of Chinese-style warlordism would be my guess. Or African-style Big Man-ism, I guess, but if there’s one silver lining to drastic social collapse, it’s that populations utterly dependent on subsidies will find themselves… unsubsidized. Bastard feudalism for the WASP remnant, Men of Respect running things in the Italian neighborhoods, MS-13 holding it down in the Squatemalan neighborhoods, and so forth. It all depends on the locality, as always. The people who argued that the Roman Empire didn’t really fall point to all the areas where the transition was seamless, peaceful, etc. Late Roman Britain, for instance,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

I was hoping we might have a few high-end enclaves, a la Bladerunner, but we won’t have the supply chains for micro-machining left, will we? I thought, “it’s not Chernobyl, it’s the Netherlands…and they’ve nuked the Amish.” Now I think the next attack may be a from a vector we didn’t expect: Bhopal. **** Bah. I erase the doomposting. Fie on the dread Fermenter adding His own special yeasts from Hell as He drags us back in. We are still going to kill Him if we can. This should be especially fun. I want to see what the finer minds… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

I think where I disagree with this and Z is the assumption territorial integrity (the political borders which define the CONUS) will and can be maintained under those conditions. I’m not even begin to speculate how that’ll fall out, just the thought occurred to me the state I was born in might become a foreign country.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 year ago

That foreign country seems most likely to be United North America

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 year ago

The good Padraig Martin d’Charlottesville has been promo’d by our magnanimous host- he is attempting a rise, with an eye towards eventual re-secession, of the South.

He would be one of the future-oriented leaders to watch. To your own credit, Templar, you have the chops to not only do well anywhere, but to do so in what may end up one of the last bastions of high civilization.

Bourbon
Bourbon
1 year ago

Z: “what kind of society will be possible with the history and human capital that will be available to us in the glorious time after this age?”

The Usual Suspects are very angry about a recent Tik-Tok video made at Carmel High School, in Indiana; with the exception of one [apparently melungeon] boy, it looks dadgum near about like paradise:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1624178827290112000/pu/vid/576×1024/OSDRrdideYBrfMY7.mp4

Fast Eddie and Apex Predator would surely approve.

I was certainly shocked to see that public high schools like that still exist.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

We aren’t running out of ferals, so I say that’s worth going Full Zardoz to preserve!

They wanted depopulation and a Great Replacement? We’ll show ’em depopulation and a Great Replacement! Death to Brutals!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Quite a bit like my old HS of the 60’s. Sigh… I returned there to gather data for a study. That school sent 85%+ on to college. And in those days, you had to do more than fog a mirror to get admitted.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Ah Carmel, IN: a slice of Naperville, IL in Indiana, if Naperville had a soul. (Inside baseball for Chicagoland readers) Some thoughts from a poster who watched the video, and who has friends who live in Carmel, IN, and visits them and the town: 1) Slim girls with naturally colored hair, no visible tattoos or facial piercings. Must be a AI deepfake. Or a time capsule from say 1989. 2) I hope the white kids enjoy Carmel High School. Scuttlebutt is the Asian Tiger Mommas and their little “grinders” (H/T Severian) who have cram sessions and learn violin and piano… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

I understand Carmel HS spends $9k per student per annum, vs. the $16k per student being spent in Baltimore.

Nobody has an answer for that little factoid

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Baltimore just has to SPEND HARDER!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Back when the left in Ohio was sill pushing the “equitable school funding” idea (well after it’s sound defeat) someone pointed out to the high-yellow mayor of Cleveland that, in fact, such a plan would probably result in money being taken away from Cleveland Public and given to outer-ring white districts since CP spends almost twice as much per student (calculators, I guess, being verboten in city hall). He meekly ran for a cave with the rest of the ne’er do wells who figured that their spending had to be less (obviously!) because their students were so much worse.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 year ago

There is no question that if schools such as Carmel were in fact receiving greater funding, it long ago would have been redistributed

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Police on site are expensive. 😉

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

There are many parts of Indiana that are quite nice. Angola would be another small city like Carmel.

I’m kind of regretting not leaving NY state for a job in Indiana at the beginning of the year, but getting another clearance was not a forgone conclusion for me.

The new job I do have is pretty good. The only major problem is that it’s in NY.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Surprisingly, NY used to be the most populous state in the Union; industrialized, too, and during the Little Ice Age.

How they did that is beyond this LA-born laddie.
I look around in January and go, “What is all that white stuff?!!”

So, Build the Wall!
If West Virginia could pull it off, so could Upstate!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Alz-

Well, at least I’m lucky enough to have landed in a town that has ethanol-free gas pumps and clerks at the party store that forget to scan my license when I buy beer.

mmack
mmack
1 year ago

Idiocracy, or its inspiration, The Marching Morons, here we come!

Hey Z Man, why come you got no tattoo? I like money, do you like money too? We should hang out.

Remember to drink your Brawndo, it’s got Electrolytes!

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Owww my balls! That actually may be too smart for our future society.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

“And he interrupted OW! My Balls! and That’s Not Cool!”

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

The disgusting fake DR commit another crime :

https://americanmind.org/salvo/i-dont-even-lift-bro/