The expression, “you learn more from your failures than from your successes” is largely true on the individual level, with some obvious exceptions. If you are a bomb disposal man or you pack your own parachute, the lesson you learn from your failure is short lived, but for most other things the expression holds. What we think of as wisdom is mostly just experience, which is a nice way of saying mistakes. Moreover, success often leads to future error due to learning the wrong lesson.
This holds for groups of people. Sports teams that have a run of luck often fall into bad habits and then experience a collapse. They confused luck for talent. On the other hand, the young team that struggled through losses, learning hard lessons along the way, often comes out the other side as a good team. They made all the mistakes necessary to be terrible, and therefore learned the lessons required to win, so they emerged from the experience equipped to win.
What we think of Judaism is the product of failure. Jews are currently celebrating Passover, commemorating a foundational event for their people, but the Jews who experienced the flight from Egypt were nothing like modern Jews. The Roman conquest of the Levant and the destruction of the Temple changed Judaism. The great failure of the old religion ways gave birth to a new form of Judaism, which allowed Jews to be Jews no matter where they found themselves.
It is not that failure, especially catastrophic failure, is a good thing. No one should strive to fail. It is that failure strips old habits of their legitimacy. “We have always done it this way” is powerful magic when things are going well. When things are going poorly, everything gets questioned. The process of reexamination of old habits and old beliefs is what often leads to reform and even revolution. That new form of Judaism was revolutionary and remains so to this day.
Something similar happened, although far less catastrophic, when the founding generation was crafting a new political order. The slave-holding states won the hard fights over the new constitution. These practical compromises contradicted the covenantalism at the core of Yankee New England. The initial failures led to a revolution in their outlook, which eventually led to abolitionism and the war on the southern states to end the institution of slavery.
One can never know, but you can make the case that the worst thing to happen to the South was their success in preserving slavery at the founding. If the slave owning states had been forced to slowly phase out the practice, the revolutionary fever to their north could not have so easily spread. Maybe the fanatics would have found a new cause, but if they did not have slavery as a rallying point, it would have been much harder for them to instigate a crusade against the South.
Of course, the corollary here is that winning is often a curse. The great triumph over their old enemies in the Civil War gave the fanatics confirmation. This fueled the spread west, turning America into a continental empire. Then they turned their eyes south to become the hegemon in the Western hemisphere. Finally, in the 20th century, they conquered the known world in the Second World War. The saviors of the world had literally saved the world from fascism.
There is where our present crisis started. Decades of economic immigration left the ruling class with a population of strangers. Organizing this mass of strangers into a unified force to conquer the world required something new and what they landed on was creedalism, the idea that American is a set of ideas, rather than a people defined by blood and history. All those strangers could be American and fight for what it means to be American, if they just accepted the words on the paper.
It was more complicated than that, but it was a useful expedient. It gave everyone a reason to support the cause, especially the newcomers. It also promised upward mobility to those newcomers. After all, if being an American simply meant espousing and supporting the creed, there is no reason why anyone could not rise as high as their talents will take them. Creedalism made the concept of the American dream accessible to anyone and everyone, as long as they believed it.
The trouble, of course, is it seemed to work. The great victory over fascism in the Second World War was a transformative event for America. It not only made America a global empire, it confirmed that America was a different sort of country. It was not just a place where people lived, but the city on the hill. The people committed to ideas conquered the people committed to blood and soil. This was proof that the American creed was a righteous faith open to all people.
This useful expedient was quickly transformed into a social poison by the subversives and profiteers that follow them from catastrophe to catastrophe. Every effort to defend the nation from the caustic effects of creedalism was met with lectures by the high priests of the faith, often undisguisable from the profiteers, accusing the defenders of the nation of being un-American. The result is the atomized, deracinated society of strangers we see today.
It is tempting to focus on the present outrages and ignore the soil in which they have grown, but the seeds were planted by the success in the war. Walter Cook, founding director of the Institute of Fine Arts at New York University, famously said, “Hitler is my best friend; he shakes the tree and I collect the apples.” Sibyl Moholy-Nagy famously replied, “In the best of Satanic traditions some of this fruit was poisoned, although it looked at first sight as pure and wholesome as a newborn concept.”¹
The present insanity is only possible in a society in which it is easy to focus the hatred of one group of people on a different group of people in close proximity. It turns out that diversity plus proximity is wokeness. This was made possible by inviting the world and their ideas into the country. This was only possible when being an American was reduced to being nothing more than repeating some words on a paper. America’s great success came with a suicide pact called creedalism.
That is the hidden truth of that expression at the start. You learn more from your failures than from your successes because the pain of failure endures, while the euphoria of success fades. The present failure normal people are experiencing will stick around long after this generation is gone. The great failure of the American experiment with creedalism will inform those who build whatever comes next. Today’s agony will be tomorrow’s lesson for the next generation.
¹https://placesjournal.org/article/future-archive-hitlers-revenge/
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“wisdom is mostly just experience”
I would suggest;
Intelligence is learning from your mistakes. Wisdom is learning from someone else’s.
America is Sal’s pizzeria from “Don’t the right thing.” You got the hardworking well meaning white man who makes good food and a quality place for the blacks in da hood.
But the second an agitator and bully come in and give Sal hell, try to make him kneel to their insane demands, try to kill him, the rest of the “community” does not rally to Sals defense. Pizzeria goes up in flames.
Making radically different groups live together is pure psychological cruelty and only propagated by those who are sadistic and stand to profit in money and power.
We’re a bunch of different breeds crammed into the same cage, while the zookeepers tell us “the Rottweilers are no more violent than any other dog!”
The zookeepers are using the Rottweilers to attack the other dogs. They do it because the can.
Z – You have written many fine posts. This one might well be your finest. Thank you.
Only conservative whites (suckers) ever tried to live/believe merit based creedalism and civnattery. The rest are completely COMPLETELY tribal and hostile all the time.
The only creed I care for is Apollo, but certainly not his bitch ass son.
A country based on creedalism deserves no loyalty. It’s not an accident that the last war America won was prior to the era of creedalism. Few men are willing to fight and die for any creed, and even fewer for the creedalism of modern America. Unlike the UK, America has never experienced a significant outmigration of its native white population. In the UK it has become common for young white people, including college-educated men, to emigrate for greener pastures. There is a trickle forming in America, and I expect that trickle to grow to a steady stream. One of my… Read more »
Things are about to come to a head. An economic collapse or near-collapse, which could happen in the immediate future, will accelerate the exodus. A smart country would seek to encourage White Americans to immigrate there. I knock them frequently, but American Whites are among the smartest, most inventive people the world has known. AINO doesn’t deserve them and will not survive without them. What you see with the third-rate performing but first-rate funded military, similar to the public schools, is the future of America. Places like Uruguay likely will become top destination points.
Uruguay has crossed my mind, as has Hungary and Russia. It would be very wise of these countries to first ask, “Do we want this person? Does this person understand why America failed?” Or else they’re risking importation of America’s poison into their own ecosystem. They need to do extensive questioning and research into American whites to see if they believe in gender extremism or DIE initiatives. There’s often a heated debate amongst dissidents on here about whether it’s right to stand and fight or leave. Without restarting that debate, I think it’s the responsibility of dissidents that emigrate to… Read more »
No Country for White People
That’s not wrong, but it’s not entirely correct. This is where I fall away from a lot of the people here. There are people of good will of many races in America who, left to their own devices, could find accommodations to the differences that divide us. For those of us of a certain age, Zman periodically writes about the old-time televised Roasts, which exploited those differences for humorous effect. We acknowledged and patched over differences in the past, and between people of good will we can do it again. Collectively, we have allowed the radical left to exploit those… Read more »
I hope that you are correct Guest, but you sound like a person who has never lived in a place where whites do not have an overwhelming majority.
When I have lived in places where whites did not have a clear majority, then the non-whites attack the whites and the reasonable non-whites do not step in to stop the attacks. This is non-white tribalism, which is stronger than shared values.
One must define “non-Whites” a bit better. Here where I live, Whites are in the minority, the majority are Hispanic. There are no race riots—not yet anyway. However, what come about is poor management on the government level, poor public schools, and a lower tax base. In short, incompetence that would be predicted by IQ.
Moving elsewhere for opportunity and good government is of course common, but we are allowed to live separate in our own areas for the most part—for now. I’d settle for that in my old age.
Compsci’s caveat is correct. It is not, in my opinion, PoC per se that are the chief problem, it is blacks. Life is liveable, although certainly not ideal, amid non-black PoC. It is the presence of blacks, anywhere upward of 20 percent, that makes the mere act of existing almost intolerable.
Prior to the New Left’s hegemony, which began in the 60s, race relations between blacks and whites (and those are the only relations that really matter) were far better than they are today, but they still weren’t good. The only factor that kept black dysfunction reasonably in check was the dominance of white culture and the willingness of whites–sometimes extra-legally–to use force. This kept the lid on the pressure cooker. Alas, no matter how you slice it, diversity–or difference, if you will–is the source of all conflict, and this truth will inevitably manifest itself in an extremely pernicious manner regardless… Read more »
Furthermore, saying that America defeated fascism is self delusion…Russian communists defeated fascism, did 80% of the fighting against Hitler’s best soldiers, admittedly with a lot of supplies from the US…Patton said that we had fought the wrong enemies, because communism was much worse than Hitler…
The American empire is working hard to ensure there can be “no West Berlin” but instead of contrasting social systems, it’s contrasting polities of white countries.
The contrast exposes the failure
I think that World War II united all the sons of the immigrants of the previous century — Irish, Italian, Jews, etc. — into Americans. Nothing like being comrades in arms to create a sense of unity among young men.
Yeah, they united to pass the immigration act of 1965 and swamp heritage America.
That was mostly or entirely Jews
Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique documents this extensively.
The Jews were surprised the Irish and Italian organizations were not interested in their proposal for inviting turd world people
Sort of. One thing that boggles my mind is meeting a European. They seem to get off on telling Americans “you’re not a real Irishman! I’m an Irishman from Ireland!” Or whatever nationality they are. Many of us would kill for some connection to the culture of the old country but in my experience they constantly disavow us. I’m not sure if that’s a post WW2 sentiment or the contagion of civil rights sweeping from here across Europe. We’ll see how well Irish-born Africans fit in. Maybe that’s what makes some of us so nostalgic about Europe or racially conscious.… Read more »
We still have a creed. Hatred of Straight White men. It is the creed that unites the coalition of the Ascendant, educated White women (who HATE HATE HATE White men with a passion), blacks, ((())), Muslims, Indians, Chinese etc. [Hispanics seem to be unwilling to join the black party]. Hatred of them is just the fundamental value all these groups share and informs every action they take. It is why Bud Light deliberately did things to alienate its core customers that they hate so much (straight White men) to get “better” customers — the Alphabet people but putting an Alphabet… Read more »
This is a much stronger (and more entertaining in tone) argument than Sailer’s contention the Coalition of the Fringes is going to fall apart…any day now…any day…just you wait…
It ought to be common knowledge at this point that Sailer is a joke and always has been. Why anyone ever took him seriously is a genuine mystery, unless you realize that the IYIs are such a gelatinous blob that they will accept any guru who gives them a shape to occupy.
Let me know when the African National Congress loses an electron in South Africa. Ie never. The government will disintegrate before that happens.
A war in the westpac will be mostly about the tech and not so much about the men. Since it will be a sea/air war, not a land war. Sailors as warriors = guys (or pink haired trannies) on a ship who push a button to launch a missile. Increasingly that is the pilots too. It doesn’t take a “warrior.” I don’t really think it matters much at all whether it is Harold, Shameequa, or Miss Fabulous pushing the button. Although when it comes to onboard system maintenance and repair there’s a clear preference for the white dude. So whoever… Read more »
[…] ZMan turns over a rock. […]
I realize that this attack on “creedalism” is the Zman’s particular axe to grind. I guess if you’re going to sustain the effort of writing a daily blog over many years (admittedly an impressive feat), then you have to have an axe to grind, some sort of emotional trigger to keep the energy flowing, and this happens to be Zman’s. That’s why it works its way into every post he writes. However, I’m not sure the point needs any more repeating. It just isn’t that relevant. To the extent that this sort of framing actually explains anything, it’s outlived its… Read more »
But I thought true Christianity had never been tried! Spain became Brazil and Mexico. France became Indochina and Algeria. Germany and Russia were also Christian empires. Eastern and Western Rome, as well. Unevolved Christianity? When? Religion still seems to a chicken-or-egg question for philosophers. As to creedalism, what would you say is the basic credo of the under-40s? I’m an old man, floundering in this Brave New World. I remember joking that “when I get old, I won’t recognize a darn thing I’m seeing.” Welp… As to British Prot piracy, might I offer: “There’s a story that’s told about Queen… Read more »
Civnat G. Normiecon is the one to whom the creed still means something. If you think creedalism has no traction you must not spend much time around him. The regime tries to wear creedalism as a fig leaf, in an effort to keep him from ever wising up. Trying to get the civnat to see through that is, for now, the main raison d’etre of the DR.
the overlap of Boomer and Civnat G. Normiecon is almost a complete circle.
That could be, but the younger boomers and older Xers who still believe, aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, and judging by our geriatric ruling class, don’t seem likely to let go of the power for a long time either. So we could be stuck with them for another 30 years.
Yeah, it’s too bad that you got downvoted a lot because your comment was really profound and important. We have to accept the possibility that the whole American Experiment was doomed from the start because men simply cannot be governed en masse within in a Constitutional Republic. It may have been a plan entirely dependent on the quality of the governed. The difference between you and Zman is that you think we we doomed to failure because of systemic reasons (republican form) and Zman is focused on the “quality of the governed” (even Franklin and John Adams understood this). These… Read more »
I agree with you. As I have mentioned here previously, Carl Schmitt is right that there can be no functioning legal order without a sovereign ie king or decisive decision maker to resolve disputes and unite the people, or at least the elites. During his lifetime Washington performed this function whether in or out of office and prevented fighting between federalists and republicans. If the USA has been a monarchy there would have been no civil war. Z man has made similar comments in line with Schmitt’s worldview that all genuine political philosophy assumes people are evil / sinful and… Read more »
Holy crap! my presidential decision for 2024 is made! https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jr-files-challenge-biden-2024-democratic-nomination . yours should de too. over at CIA …https://twitter.com/i/status/1643782684282597377
Anything admirable about him besides being anti jab? I can’t think of anything
Yes, most likely to re-open JFK and RFK assassinations. Trump began pulled the curtain back. There’s more to reveal.
Name another ‘candidate’ more likely to have a real axe to grind? A multi-generational grudge.
RFK, Jr. is our man.
He’s the one who’d have fire in his belly, for sure.
Daring them to kill another Kennedy eh? Well, that’s a bold move anyway. Not sure about voting for him. I’d need to know more. Since voting is probably useless anyway though I might go for it. I also like the National Justice Party though I need to know more about them too. They supposedly do “good works” stuff and not just talk which is a move in the right direction. The various Muslim radical parties in the ME do this too and always have a large “social work” component that helps real people with real needs and helps build the… Read more »
Mike Enoch is the main guy at the NJP, you might know him as the nice fellow with the jewish ex wife who got mysteriously dismissed from the C-ville lawsuit because (representing himself) he was just too smart for all the biggest hebrew lawfirms with the deepest pockets. His expert legal maneuvers worked for no one else on our side though and they’ll go to jail or be consumed by endless lawfare and then financially destroyed and unpersoned. He’s a real lucky guy, right? You’d think that someone in the lead of the left’s new pearl harbor number one bad… Read more »
Another lesson of history worth considering. The Eastern Roman Empire faded slowly over several centuries and the people of the Italian peninsula have never since re-emerged to greatness. And yet, both the Japanese and German empires of WW2 collapsed suddenly following defeat, but those nations thereafter rose up to become economic powerhouses within two generations; Germany as the economic engine of Europe and ditto for Japan in East Asia. What enabled this restoration? it has been argued that both were denuded of post-war military expense, which enabled a focus solely on domestic priorities. Plus both populations endured enormous hardship following… Read more »
“but those nations thereafter rose up to become economic powerhouses within two generations; Germany as the economic engine of Europe and ditto for Japan in East Asia. What enabled this restoration?” We did. They are vassels and the favorites you see being played now in our own economy is exactly what we’ve been doing internationally for decades. Don’t you find it odd that the first industries we sacrificed wasn’t due to China, no, because both Japan and most of Europe kept those industries. Just like Ford and GM not selling cars anymore, but Korea increases its share of the market… Read more »
The only reason Japan hasn’t exploded and become nationalist again after their fun with debt in the 80’s and 90’s is because of us. They’ve printed so much their money should be considered monopoly money. Being linked to the dollar is the only thing that has stopped that. People say but the Japanese save more then they spend, yes and that is because we give their products favored status in most markets and protect them. While selling our own populace short and trying to offset the loss of industry with Higher Education, Healthcare, and tech. None of those industries would… Read more »
In AINO, British accents sell (or Aussie, Kiwi, European in general). It’s been studied.
The genetic fitness of Germany and Japan are also noteworthy here. And their subsidization by GAE. Although I think the sudden vs. gradual collapse you bring up is also a large factor, perhaps the main thing that differentiates them from Italy. Which still gave us Ferraris, high fashion, astronomy, fine art etc.
What I’m getting at is, if you tried to engineer the same sudden collapse and GAE facilitated rebirth in Mozambique I don’t think you would get similar results to Germany and Japan.
“The Eastern Roman Empire faded slowly over several centuries and the people of the Italian peninsula have never since re-emerged to greatness.”
Or to cite a more recent example, the post-1945 decline of the British Empire. A century ago, the sun never set or British Imperial dominions. Today, the Empire has all but disappeared and Britain itself is firmly a second-tier nation.
A GAE collapse should be devastating for the UK
It is truly frightening to think of how much worse the UK could get after it’s status as 51st state is withdrawn. I’m picturing the whole island becoming a giant Pakistani-run whorehouse and porn studio. Maybe they can augment that income by cooking designer drugs for use on the continent and in the newly liberated People’s Republic of New York.
I could see the British people, once the yolk of the GAE is lifted, liberating themselves, actually. It is in their blood to do so.
Even if the yolk was lifted they’d still have egg on their face.
The decline of both the Western and Eastern Roman empires was strongly influenced by internal diversity. Neither Germany nor Japan was saddled with much diversity after WWII which no doubt contributed to their rapid recovery.
No it was literally genetics.
Emil Kirkegaard has a paper showing decline in Roman IQ measured from ancient DNA samples due to dysgenics AND immigration from northern Africa. Ancient Romans had higher genotypic IQ than modern Italians although the better environment may boost it a bit (Flynn effect).
Listening to EMJ as habit, he was talking about Rome needing to conquer to pay debts, later said the UK had to plunder for the same reason iirc. I wonder if that’s the nature of empire, or at least multicultural empire. One big Ponzi scheme. Otoh, I’m sort of fond of a national empire, I guess you’d call it. Like the Roman Republic, the German Empire, the US in its Yankeedom phase, I suppose China and the Russian Federation today. Even the UK, which I guess isn’t technically national, but not far from it. They aren’t perfect, but they seem… Read more »
Oof.
England was the first ethnic nation rather than an aristocracy ruling over an inchoate peasantry.
You also have the non-trivial matter of 1000 years of Anglo jurisprudence which suggests a damn sight more stability and civilization than those wogs on the continent.
Catholicism leads to unity!? Not really familiar with the history of France,Spain,Italy etc.are you?
Empires don’t necessarily make money for the entire polity;just the elite. The British empire was a net drain on all of the UK but the elite did well out of it. Like slavery and the South.
“England was the first ethnic nation”
I’ll take your word for it, but I wouldn’t have figured it. Maybe guessed France, idk lol. I mean, why’d the Angles get the name instead of Britons, Saxons, Normans, etc.?
Not saying Catholicism confers more stability, it’s that I think Protestantism is a Germanic thing, based on who originated and adopted it.
Re: empires, like I said I’m not sure. Are they a net positive until they go international, or do they have an inevitable fate?
You dare accusing others to not be familiar with History, considering your ridiculous wrtiting (and even more ridiculous pseudo, Bastiat, the maniac liberal, member of the left wing of french parliament). Acting England as “first ethnostate” is on a level such absurd than I barely can argue. A celtic-scandinavian-saxon-french country, ethnically unified. Lol. But the second part, my God! *Anglo jurisprudence which suggests a damn sight more stability and civilization than those wogs on the continent.* Ooh yes, great Anglo *stability * with those 7 (no less) Saxon kingdoms, finally destroyed by Danish, then resurrected, then destroyed again by French… Read more »
Through prudent NATIONALIST leadership the ponzi scheme trap could have been avoided. Hypothetically. But good times create weak men etc. And power, especially imperial power, attracts very greedy men. Unprincipled and power hungry men.
A quote from Bastiat:
When plunder becomes a way of life, men create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
The US has always both suffered and benefited from the selection pressures that chose who came here. Even when immigrants were overwhelmingly White, Christian Europeans there was probably a higher than normal amount of sociopathy among new arrivals. At the same time you need to be fairly smart and courageous to undertake a dangerous sea voyage and this probably gave us our industrious, innovative, and risk taking qualities. I’m pretty sure the same genetics are behind both the bad and the good of all that. Today’s immigrants are different though. It’s trivially easy for most to get here and doing… Read more »
EMJ? Can you provide a link? I just took a job that means I need to drive a lot. I’m looking for things to listen to in the car besides rap and talk (cuck) radio. Z only makes an hour of content a week you know! BTW – apologies to Z if I just double posted my screed on ‘Murrica the pressure cooker. I thought it had failed to post but I think it was just moderated.
Check out Morgoth, Endeavor, and Alex Kaschuta on youtube. Devon Stack (Black Pilled) on odysee if youre feeling particularly misanthropic
I’m lazy, so I use Podcasts on my iPhone. Culture Wars podcast.
They got Trump, now they’re after Thomas.
You didn’t actually think that they were going to let him get away with overturning Roe and letting you white Christian peckerwoods keep your Second Amendment and your guns… did you?
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow
Be a mighty fine time to have a couple of Supreme Court justices resign so that Biden can replace them while Trump is in prison, wouldn’t it?
Story by (((Joshua Kaplan)))
Eaten last is still eaten.
Removing a SC justice works the same as removing a president. Need 2/3 vote to convict in the Senate. Figure the odds. They would need a whole lot more ammo than this. Do they really want to go after him for doing the same things that they all do?
They *especially* want to punish others for exactly what they do. It sends a special tingle.
“Removing a SC justice works the same as removing a president. Need 2/3 vote to convict in the Senate.”
Hah. You don’t think they’re actually going to follow the “rules” of your white, male, cisgendered, oppressive Constitution, do you?
The goal is to discredit him by heaping allegations of improper conduct on him and forcing him to resign… cf. Hill, Anita
Even while Trump was in office they followed the letter of the law in trying to be rid of him. Or at least worked to make it appear as if they were, as they investigated and tried him for made up charges. Which still couldn’t reach that 2/3 threshold.
Isn’t it theoretically justified? A senate with 57 democrats confirmed him when he replaced liberal hero thurgood marshall, not to mention Thomas was only 43. Why George Mitchell allowed any of his senators to vote for him is beyond me. Meanwhile a senate with 54 republicans wouldn’t even allow for a hearing for garland despite the fact that he wouldn’t be on the court as long (he was 63 years old) and was not as liberal as Scalia was conservative. Because Thomas could serve another 15 years and retire at 90 (similar to John paul stevens) this might be the… Read more »
[…] The Seeds Of Ruin […]
Well, it’s really all just a vicious cycle, isn’t it? Success breeds failure, which breeds success, which breeds more failure, ad infinitum. Rather puts paid to the notion of progress, wot. And I’m fine with that because, with the provisional exception of medical science, I don’t believe in progress.
I disagree. Whites *are* the progress. Just as Neanderthal’s job was to eliminate the obsolete Erectus, and then be superceded by CroMagnon with Denisovian as a backup.
The timescale is a tad frustrating, though.
Jews arrived into Europe with stories of bad treatment in Egypt, about 1000 years later Gypsies arrive into Europe with stories of bad treatment in Egypt. at some point the stories get so old, that the people telling them forget it was all part of the scam
Grifters and bullshitters, Europeans are an easy mark. for now
Kamc or Joyce need to write an article about Gypies and Jews
I found an obscure site detailing an openly J**ish empire in India; a slaver’s empire, as brutal and imperious as Akkad. Lost to history in the churning boil of subcontinental forgetfulness.
The Roma Gypsies are from India, as it turns out. I’ll bet my left unmentionable they are a branch off that old tree.
“On the other hand, the young team that struggled through losses, learning hard lessons along the way, often comes out the other side as a good team.”
Ha, not if you’re the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Young teams learn through failure and improve therefrom, only if they’re mentally tough. Many a young team simply loses confidence and the will to win because of losses, and experiences a disastrous season.
How does a creedal country re-boot itself when the creed ultimately fails once that country looks like the UN cafeteria? The only way would be a new creed that unites all 50 states. That would be a hell of a feat. You can’t just spin a new creed whole-cloth outside of military conquest, it takes generations to indoctrinate. Like building a Jenga tower to the moon. Looking at history you see various resolutions. New borders drawn, outright conquest by an external power (I don’t see that one on the menu) or some strong man that unites through sheer force of… Read more »
There is a solution you did not mention, a final one, where all opposition to whatever today’s creed happens to be is simply is vanquished and killed. We are seeing a totally American half-ass version of that play out.
Or, the opponents of the creed become so outraged by the daily abominations that they start using their guns and ammo to vanquish the creedal Power Structure. I doubt strongly that happens, but it is a possibility.
The creed hasn’t failed yet though. Sure it failed intellectually, spiritually, etc., but it hasn’t yet failed materially, not with the fat-f uks in new $1000 per month 7 year payoff vehicles I’m seeing. We’re not there yet. And being one of the most materialist places on Earth, that’s what matters. Blue haired HR women being laid off. Not quite.
There are an enormous number of people drawing great salaries in useless HR, admin, and managerial roles in every industry.
Regarding what The Wild Geese Howard said below I’d say that the unique thing about the US today is that, due to it’s status as global empire, it can afford to keep the blue haired nomenclatura in Teslas and hair dye. This is what really keeps factory workers in southern China laboring away to make that stuff for them. If the US lost its GAE status those people would need to come up with answers to the question everyone outside the Imperial Citadel has to answer: what can you actually do that’s useful to us? Since the answer to that… Read more »
“We don’t have a “generalissimo” culture.”
We don’t have a culture of any sort.
Diversity + proximity = wokeness + conflict. We are of a dog eat dog, mongrel, tribal, godless, “culture” sans norms, sans justice, sans art, sans any marker of a culture.
We have a consumer culture. AINO residents judge themselves and each other by what they consume, rather than by what they produce. By where they shop, and for what. By what kind of car they drive. By the music they listen to. These are the markers of status.
Learning from mistakes requires acknowledging mistakes, no? Is the ruling class even capable of such? Of course not. Hence the old order, which they control completely, is melting down because it cannot be adjusted and maintained; it is quite rich that those who embrace post-modernism and seek constant struggle require stasis to maintain it (always the case), and that has become impossible in no small part due to their turning the table over. Puritans were the original virus within the United States and they remain so today, seamlessly transitioning from witch burnings to child sexual mutilation ideology. That people ignore… Read more »
The tranny loving puritans believe southern evangelicals burned the witches. If you don’t believe me, ask them
They easily believe six impossible things before breakfast. It is their essence.
Witch burnings were an antibody response and if you spend any time on twitter or in a blue city you’d be first in line voting Cotton Mather 2024.
I’ve always preferred Increase, myself…
Cotton was a fairly learned man for his time. Inducted into the Royal Society for his scientific endeavors.
History is the grave — right or wrong, we all return there. I never understood the intense dislike of the Puritans. Yes, I know the City upon the Hill concept. Yes, I understand the fanaticism. Yes, I understand the everyone watching everyone. But – here is the caveat – the Puritans consciously removed themselves from corrupt society by building an alternate moral code. The vigilantly kept out outsiders; they watched for corruption within their ranks; and they refused to compromise their morality (except when they did). Of course, the vague label of Puritan makes impossible ascribing a particular belief or… Read more »
No, Cromwell and his Roundheads were cultural wreckers, murdering hounds, and genocidal loons (just ask the Irish, they’ll tell you). There are good reasons that the English dug up his remains, put them in a cage, and hung them up to be reviled after their preferred system of rule was restored. Their successors here were cut from the same cloth; fanatical, self-congratulatory, and tight-assed hypocrites, and were not to be admired. During the War of Northern Aggression they ran true to form, wrecking the economic wherewithal of the South, killing huge swathes of their best men, and genocidal loons in… Read more »
“Preferred system of rules” is subjective – the Jacobean line was not exactly popular. Two, the English Civil War was the result of poor rulers, not external agitation. Cromwell rose to promise as a leader in an already existing conflict. Three, I drew a distinction between American isolationist Puritans and English. Four, the Puritans are gone – not present tense. Five, the world would probably be a bit better if we had the Puritans applying their morality to the world.
I think of the Puritan impulse as being akin to a mind virus; capable of mutation over the span of time, and owing to the press of material/cultural conditions, yet ever capable of a resurgence of its foundational narcissistic fanaticism. Wreckers unwilling to live and let live, and constitutionally incapable of doing so. Like an actual biological virus, totally focused on the propagation of itself, albeit accomplished in this mission. But I don’t admire viruses for their proficiency. Tough shit for everybody else, as that mind virus presents as a sociopathic monoculture.
“There are good reasons that the English dug up his remains, put them in a cage, and hung them up to be reviled after their preferred system of rule was restored.”
Hindu nationalism?
Didn’t Mrs. Cromwell attempt to dive into her hubby’s remains when they were set aflame?
To echo JJ, they didn’t stay isolated, though, and were key players in the British civil war. The English had the good sense to get rid of them. They festered here until they felt safe enough to venture outside their cult and have done tremendous damage since. Yes, they have the capacity for great achievement but also a psychotic impulse even worse than members of the Tribe. What they are doing now is what they always have done.
They’re basically the Jews of the white peoples.
So what are we doing here? Just here to spit in the wind? Puritans no longer exist, again, and their efficacy is worthy of respect, again. What change has the dissident movement accomplished? Were the Puritans not dissidents? They ruled over a country – we post on comment sections. And I will say again: the Puritans no longer exist. The fact that many associate the zealotry of Puritans with trannies is akin to equating the nationlism of the Spartans to the Italians.
What were Franklin and Jefferson doing in France, anyways?
I thought close relations continued because the French Navy came to Washinton’s aid; France was trying to hold on to the center, from the Yukon to New Orleans.
Please don’t tell me the Revolution had a bit of Freemason bungling.
We say “Deist”, but the Lodges of the Free Masons and the Enlightenment were a Prot Scientism answer to Catholic power.
Washington DC architecture is 90% Free Mason motifs, it’s cartwheel layout was by a French engineer. The Founders were Free Masons, creating a Freemason empire amidst Colonial religio-political rivalries.
Edit: French Revolution
Brought to you by three wealthy lawyers (Robespierre was one) with the nephew Duc d’Orleans as their ambitious puppet.
Royals. J. Zoar is right, an ethos of ethnic nationalism is the brake on royals, invaders, and native schemers.
Yes. The Plymouth folk did not begin or run Official America. The masons did, and still do. They are goddess-worshipping cults which explains why the nations they control are dominated by empowered females.
The District of Columbia is a literal shrine or temple to the ‘great goddess’ of these pathetic luciferians.
I don’t think the cause of the Civil War is properly understood by most people. The mainstream view is that the war was over slavery and the minority view from the right is that it was over state vs. federal rights and slavery was an excuse. IMO, that still doesn’t get to the heart of the issue. Let me explain… Jewish money-lenders were happy to fund both sides in European wars (like Nathan Rothschild funding all the belligerents, England, Prussia, and France, at Waterloo, with France receiving a loan of 10 million pounds), but they also funded both sides of… Read more »
For the unbelievers out there, this is going to seem Sunday school, but bear with me. As you will see in the end, my intentions are not religious but trying to clarify the relationship between Jews and Western people. “After the destruction of the Second Temple the Oral Law proponent Pharisees won out and codified the Oral Law in the Talmud, which is vicious in its portrayal of gentiles.” Right. The Old Testament religion was centered on the Temple. According to the Old Testament, God made a pact (covenant) with Moses so the sins could be forgiven by sacrificing animals… Read more »
Great response.
I was hoping someone would follow up on our host’s statements with a bit more detail. Thank you.
Yep… modern day “jews” are as authentically jewish in a theological sense as the black hebrew israelites are. “Rabbinicism” or “talmudism” would be more descriptive of so called modern day “judaism”. At LEAST this religion should be referred to as “RABBINIC judaism” or “TALMUDIC judaism”. Educated Christians should be quite clear on this explicitly per Rev 2: ‘I know your suffering and your poverty (but you are rich), and how you are blasphemed and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan [they are Jews only by blood, and do not… Read more »
Thank you for this lucid exposition. But, if I am not mistaken, these weren’t the only occasion that the old switcheroo was used among the Israelites. I recall (sorry, no scriptural passage citation) a time when a faction within the priesthood – surprise, surprise – discovered some scrolls in a walled up cavity detailing a whole new set of teachings, which purported to claim that for some little period of time, the rules under which they had been operating were to be superceded by the discovery of these more authentic teachings. Uh huh, okee dokee. So the reenvisagement of the… Read more »
The pertinent piece of the puzzle, missing from the discussion so far [as I can see], is that THE J00Z owned the entirety of the trans-Atlantic chattel slave trade. Once the sephardim in Holland sent the first african chattel slaves to Jamestown in 1619, the tidewater settlers had two choices: 1) Continue to attempt to farm the malaria-riddled tidewater with paid White labor which was susceptible to malaria, or 2) Switch to farming with unpaid african chattel slave labor which had a sickle cell gene that made the chattel slaves largely immune to malaria. Immediately upon the j00ish introduction of… Read more »
Just a small nit to pick, but the sickle cell gene is not nearly as prevalent in blacks as you infer. It does give great resistance to malaria, but comes with its own set of very debilitating issues. However, most all West African blacks are Duffy-negative (a lesser known, but important blood group), which gives great resistance to Plasmodium vivax. While not quite as deadly as P. falciparum, P. vivax is the most well-distributed malaria species.
Similarly, the California farmers using Mexican labor contractors forced near all California farms to replace the Okie itinerant labor, in exactly the same way.
Bingo.
Precisely.
Psychopaths gonna cheat.
And then everybody else is forced to cheat simply to prevent the Psychopaths from seizing monopoly control of everything.
The ‘British’ Empire, which lost its richest colony and coaxed it back into the fold with carrots and sticks. Divide, finance, offer partnership, demand ‘leadership’, with promises of ever greater wealth and power, forever crisis.
And of course we fell for it, which is on us, as it was on the English before us.
China has had a very long time to reflect on its failures. They have learned some very valuable lessons, especially from the opium trade. I have alot of respect for the CCP, despite recognizing them as enemies. Russia didn’t have a long stretch of humiliation, but had quite a “spicy” 20th century. A catastrophic first half, and disastrous last decade. They also had some great victories, at great cost. No doubt intelligent Russians have learned quite a bit from this important century. The rise of a “multipolar” world will ironically be the best thing for our people, who no longer… Read more »
The people who control us are incapable of acknowledging mistakes. Sure, what comes next will be better, but that assumes they don’t set the world on fire first. That is very possible and perhaps likely.
Russia had a 240-year-long humiliation. It is known as the Tatar Yoke.
This is covered in Raymond Ibrahim’s “Sword and Scimitar.” This book purified the hue of the red in my red-pilling, and I heartily recommend it to everyone. It retrieves from the memory hole in a highly readable (no academese or pointlessly highbrow vocabulary) account an enormous amount of our ancestors’ struggle against exterminatory animosity.
I would argue that Russia has been humiliated longer than China. Maybe more than most countries. When you’re a giant flat country at the meeting point of steppe tribes, Vikings, religious zealots, army generals, diverse peasant peoples, Communists, and certain stone age tribes with ferocious grudges, you’re going to get humiliated.
China thanks their good fortune that they’ve been walled off from Asia for most of their existence.
And yet, the Mongols conquered China, just as they conquered Russia and Persia.
Odd that large land empires remained rather poor- Russia, China, Brazil- while coastal seagoing powers became really, really rich: Portugal, Holland, Spain, Britain, France, the US.
The real irony is in creedalism’s ascendancy being simultaneous to the disregarding of the creed, the words on the paper no longer being followed or applicable. The authors of the creed being vilified at the very same time that those touting the creed disregard the creed. Yet the creed is still purported to be the emperor’s clothes. Clown world indeed. One gets the sense that Russia and China have learned a lot from failure. One also gets the sense that China looks forward to a humiliation of the GAE that may not require much direct effort on its own part.… Read more »
“ Russia and China have learned a lot from failure.”
Not just their failures—which Z-man alludes to—but to ours. For example, China allows no ethnic/religious dissent. This is why they repress the Uyghurs and appoint “Christian” leadership. They have seen what a fifth column such “diversity” leads to. You also, as a non-ethnic resident, can achieve no citizenship—either through residence or marriage. Marriage outside the race is discriminated against.
Sharp observation. Russia, being Western adjacent, suffers a little more from this madness than China but only a bit more.
I read years ago that China undertook a policy to ensure that women were no more than 15% of Party members, and that there was a campaign underway (an inquisition, if you will) to ensure that none of them were globohomo-style feminists. Smart people learn from their own failures. Very smart people can learn from other people’s failures. Clearly, at least some Chinese are very smart. About the same time I read that, I read of a Chinese mass deportation operation (~50k) expelling illegal alien Africans.” It was a good start, but if the effort has been continued, I haven’t… Read more »
It was here I learned the Red Guards were not Mao’s creation, but his wife’s. (He was busy summoning three or four star-struck peasant girls to his bed at night, as befits a Chinese emperor.)
They learned the Hard HR lesson quickly, didn’t they? Just put your foot down and say no, you can’t come in or take a seat.
Slavery in the old south was an unmitigated disaster for white who didn’t own land. my ancestors lived in the mountains of NC and Virginia before the french and Indian wars, much less the revolution. Slavery was a cost savings over paying a living wage to the landless whites living in the area. so they were often squeezed out to the furthest reaches of the frontier. They couldn’t get work so subsistence farming on the edges was all that was left to many of them. these poor mountian men composed most of Rogers rangers that won the Northwest territories of… Read more »
Slavery was an unmitigated disaster for slaveholders too. It made them responsible for a mass of people who weren’t able to adapt to Western life. It stifled mechanical innovation and left the South behind the rest of the country in development. It was an horrible institution that has led to so much grief for us as a people.
In addition to the j00z controlling the trans-Atlantic chattel slave trade, it was almost solely YANKEE new england shipping magnates which signed the contracts with the j00z to move the kneegr0ws across the Atlantic [search on “Triangular Trade”].
The average White southroner [a starvation-level dirtfarmer with little more than a jug of moonshine to his name] was largely left scratching his head, and wondering, “WTF is happening?”
tl;dr == j00z & YANKEES were responsible for all of this.
The average White Southroner was an utterly innocent bystander.
Morally of course, slavery is abhorrent. Aside from the moral question though, there are very serious deleterious effects that slavery has on all societies, one of the biggest of which you have described here… it sets a ceiling on the price of basic labor in your society at the same level as the cost of feeding/clothing a slave. Obviously this is insufficient for a free person so the free people suffer along with the unfree. A similar thing contributed to the fall of the Roman republic. Success in wars led to large conquests and lots of slaves. These slaves eventually… Read more »
And let’s not forget the pernicious role imperialism plays in all of this. Yes, until the 19th century, conquest produced slaves, but in the process it also proved to be an exponent of diversity. And unlike slavery, diversity has proved an ineluctable result of imperialism right up to the present.
Blaise Pascal said something to the effect that all of man’s problems can be traced to his inability to sit quietly in a room. One can scale that observation up to the polity level, as well.
I deduce that this is why my family failed to build up any wealth prior to the mid 20th century, in spite of being in southern Appalachia since the early 1700s. The ones who finally began to were all born poor in the early 20th.
Haven’t you guys ever heard of the no nothing party? Its arguable that immigration has the same outcome as slavery with regards to setting a price ceiling on labor. In fact some southerners made that argument, calling it wage slavery.
I’ve often joked of my Confederate ancestors that originally I respected them and their service, and as things have played out, I’m just now pissed at them for losing. A little insight into what would have happened if they had prevailed happened in the immediate aftermath of the war. The Southern lower and middle classes wanted blacks exiled, and the old aristocracy wanted them to stay put and continue to work. The occupation army made sure the latter happened, and that was even before the 14th Amendment. This was just a glimpse at the class struggle that would have happened.
The continued presence of Africans in our world since then has made the importation of everyone else all the easier. When you’re confronted daily by humans so genetically alien to you, i.e. blacks, how shocking can it be to flood the country with mestizos, wogs, or even Italians?
The old saying “hard to identify the freak at the circus” certainly applies to current USA.
Part of the reason we have the circus is to hide what the clowns are up to after the crowd has gone home.
Pretending different races, even if they’re intra-continental, are the same and can coexist together doomed this country from the start. It was always going to end with one side subjugating the other or breaking apart. The north was full of proto shitlibs during the colonial days, it wasn’t foisted on them, they were always going to go full retard. The kosher nosetra ruling class we have now wouldn’t have been possible without the wannabe israelites taking control of the country, they had a shared interest even if they had different motivations. It concerns me that people continue to claim we’re… Read more »
The proto-SJW existed in America long before the revolutionary war. I was reading an early 20th century book called “The Philadelphia Negro” and the stories printed in that book from the 17th century were near identical to what goes on today. The Quakers were the Jews of that time. Always trying to improve the “Negro” with their stupid programs. I agree though that having all the different ethnic groups in America doomed it from the start. Swedes may be White, but they aren’t English. Same with Italians etc. People understood this well into the 20th century. All of us, born… Read more »
I’m gonna have to check that book out, I’ve read a smattering of different stories about New Englanders doing things that, like you said, are identical to what’s happening today. There’s a few articles on Counter Currents from years ago about these types doing things like inviting natives into their villages thinking the power of Christ has somehow overridden their savagery with a predictably bloody outcome. Wish I could tell you what the articles were named, I swore I had them bookmarked but apparently I never did. They’d likely be tagged under ‘american indians’ given the subject matter but having… Read more »
Tars Tarkas: “The Quakers were the Jews of that time.”
To this day, the quakers and the j00z are largely inseparable, more or less wed at the hip [we have an yuge quaker population around here, and many of the quaker girls miscegenate with the j00z and bear j00-quaker mischling abominations].
Back in the day, it was a quaker traitor who informed the (((Ochs))) family that the NY Times could be purchased for pennies on the dollar in the aftermath of the 1893 depression.
quakers are satanists.
Quakers are not Christians, any more than are Unitarians.
Due to persecution in Britain, they had to invent a parallel society. Excluded from the universities, and many occupations, they found their way as leaders in industrialization, accepting the stink of being “in trade”, but winding up often, as a community, being quite well off. The parallels with Jevvs are striking, and likely these societal circumstances threw them together, in Britain at least.
The later surge of eastern European-origin Jevvs is, of course, a different story, but earlier times had habituated the Quakers to the acceptance of their presence.
JerseyJeffersonian: ‘accepting the stink of being “in trade”’ Quakers are arguably every bit as shekel-mongering as are the j00z themselves. The first [and maybe even the only] time in my life that something was stolen from our house was when we invited some quaker kids over to play. The older quaker brother stole some old coins from our coin collection. The younger brother went on to become a minor actor in hollyweird. And the most recent time a person gave me the Death Stare was a few years ago, when I saw a quaker woman of my acquaintance, who thought… Read more »
Quaker women ran the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention that began organized feminism in the U.S.
“Jews are currently celebrating Passover, commemorating a foundational event for their people” Yep. The central religious holiday of Judaism celebrates the “foundational event” of their god murdering the innocent firstborn sons of the Egyptian goyim. Speaking of which, it is interesting that Trump was indicted during Holy Week. Like Christ riding into Jerusalem to the accolades of the people, Trump rode into Washington as a populist. Just as Christ called out the corrupt Pharisees as a pit of “vipers” and “hypocrites,” Trump called out Hillary as “crooked” and the media as “fake news.” Just as Christ was betrayed by his… Read more »
This. Well said, Xman.
Ecc 1:9
What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
“The central religious holiday of Judaism celebrates the “foundational event” of their god murdering the innocent firstborn sons of the Egyptian goyim.”
Which, like every other of their claims, is a lie. There’s a reason the “Dead Sea Scrolls” were classified.
Ron Unz looks at the degree of bullshit on his site.
We call them foundation myths for a reason. There is no evidence in support of the exodus story. There is evidence of various people migrating out of Egypt, so most likely these stories were borrowed and enhanced over time. The flood story is another example. It is likely that Jews borrowed the idea of the creator deity from Zoroastrianism.
In the show tomorrow I will spend some time on the Germanification of Christianity. This is just the nature of religions. They evolve and adapt, while maintaining a core set of tenets. Otherwise, they die out.
Joseph Campbell in his book, “The Power of Myth” touches upon this. The salient point being that the truth (or falsity) of the myth is not important. It is what the myth “tells” us of what the society *aspires* to. For example, George Washington as a child chopping down his father’s cherry tree and confessing such when questioned. Pure BS, but an enduring tale told to illustrate/inculcate the virtue of honesty and acceptance even of consequences. Now there was a country/society in ascendency. Today, our latest “myth” is that a man can be a women simply by affirmation (and all… Read more »
“Rachel” from “Friends” and Admiral “Rachel” both played a role in the same drama.
I put down Campbell’s book while reading the intro or preface after he referred to Freudian psychologists a the priests of our age or some such drivel.
Roo_ster, and in doing so missed the salient point I provided above.
When I was a kid, around 1980, there was a big TV documentary series, PBS or BBC or Canadian equivalent, purporting to tell the entire history of the Jews. The first episode began with what was then considered the first archeological proof of historical Jewish existence, an old Egyptian graffiti/inscription (I don’t remember which) noting in stone that at long last the locals had freed themselves of the criminal Jews. I assume that’s been discredited, as archeology typically generationally is, but: that was the story. Looking back, the ’70s seems to be when the diaspora creation myth was shifted from… Read more »
Well, there is still no shortage of Jevvish mobsters, but they employ financial means rather than Thompson guns to gain their sway.
“Which, like every other of their claims, is a lie.”
But it’s not a lie that they celebrate it. Nor is it a lie that they celebrate massacring Haman, his ten sons, and “75,000 enemies of the Jews” on Purim.
Even if these are myths, the fact that they celebrate them tells us something about who they are.
As Compsci said, and who they aspire to be!
Should the Goodthink Whites win, I wonder what their foundational myths will be?
I’m certain they will resurrect some of those scientists cast into the void for noticing racial differences and challenging the “myth” of human equality.
‘Yep. The central religious holiday of Judaism celebrates the “foundational event” of their god murdering the innocent firstborn sons of the Egyptian goyim.’
They were asked nice first, but that punk pharaoh and his gelded advisors wanted to show how Empowered they were, with their vile pagan ‘religion’ and their bogus ‘gods’. Got all stubborn and nasty about it.
P.S. that was MY GOD that whacked them and I would back Him up 100 percent if He said do it again. You know neither my Father nor Christ the King.
Such blasphemies will surely make your heart weigh heavily upon the Scale of Ma’at.
Ma’at, yikes, pretty skeery all right. A LARPy Egyptian troon dressed up as a goddess. Wow whatever shall I do now?
Ok, proof of concept, intended as refutation.
So your ‘god’ is both murderer and liar?
“They were asked nice first…”
Uh, like a Cease and Desist letter, that justifies … the usual?
Exactly! Thank you.
We’re going to kill Him if we can. We know many attempts will fail.
This must occur, as part of Creation’s design. Yet still, hold hope- there is, afterwards, a better way.
Hell, a process as essential as microbial life, can be tamed.
Take solace that none made for this sole task will survive it, if ye wouldst have revenge.
It has be joked (morbidly) that if/when the US falls and the Great Depression 4.0 kicks in, the mass exodus of paperwork Americans would occur. I’m not too sure about that seeing how the sense of entitlement has set in at this point. They may not love the soil or have roots at bind, yet even a trickle of government cheese may suffice to keep them here.
Something that sticks with me is thinking about how truly dreadful, say, Puerto Rico is that Puerto Ricans would rather live in Chicago year round than their native island paradise. I mean, how much worse does Chicago have to get until living in Puerto Rico (or Somalia, or Afghanistan, etc.) is preferable?
I have a feeling the people of Chicago are about to find out.
The main problem with Puerto Rico is that it’s full of Puerto Ricans. Chicago, or anywhere in AINO, is still a very long way from that, regardless of who is in the mayor’s office.
Correct. A while back, I read that they still didn’t have full utilities back on line after the last hurricane some several years prior. Puerto Rico is a nice country wrt climate and beaches and such tourist attractions, but as said, “it’s full Puerto Rican’s. I suspect Chicago and New York have mostly economic migrants in them who have little hope of a good job back home. Also, PR’s can come and go as they like, so I suspect many make their bones here and “retire” back home. This is an old story wrt PR. Hell, there’s a great 1960… Read more »
It’s pretty hard to say what will happen because it’s impossible to tell just how much of the problems of Puerto Rico or Latin American countries are caused by the meddling of the federal government. If federal spending subsides, and with it foreign meddling, it’s fairly probable that paper Americans would move back. If the feds can keep meddling, then who knows?
El Salvador may become the new “it’ destination.
I heard Carl Benjamin claiming this about the UK. The thing is, due to the demographics of UK it is more likely to be a nicer place to live and have a functioning society than Pakistan, India, etc in the event of global turmoil.
The least dirty shirt is still more desirable
In his book ‘Anti-Fragile’, Nassim Talib makes that same point: that the lessons learned from failure often make a person, or a system, stronger and less fragile. As far as the Jews flight from Egypt, as described in the Old Testament, there’s no indication that that really happened. It’s almost certainly a made up story. If the entire Egyptian army— armored men carrying swords, horses drawing iron-wheeled chariots— was swallowed up in the Red Sea, as the Scriptures recount, *that would certainly have left a trace* If a Hebrew (Joseph) had become second-in-command of all of Egypt, second only to… Read more »
Spergy fedoraism was boring in 2006. Now it’s as out of fashion as bell bottoms.
Facts about our favorite nazis don’t care about our feelings, not even during “Holy Week”. Just a little imagination, however, about the implications of European astronomy, archaelogy, and Egyptology can go a long way when explaining the genocidal malice of our favorite nazis.
Are you implying the Jews greatly exaggerated their victimhood in order to cover for their vicious disloyalty? I don’t know where you would get crazy ideas for thinking something like that. All kidding aside though, it would be tough to make a tale like that out of whole cloth, but one can guess that after a couple centuries of being retold it jut got more and more fantastical. For instance, it wouldn’t be surprising that maybe there was Jewish foreman overseeing a couple hundred Jewish workers, but time turns the foreman into Pharaoh Jr. and the couple hundred Jews into… Read more »
Where have I heard that one before, about the slaves being responsible for the building of the country
I suspect it’s like the Iliad. For years they searched for Troy to no avail. But later found what they deemed Troy. But much around it simply does not match Homer’s tale. Again, one assumes that the myth must be accurate to be important, not so.
What little mention of the Israelites exists in Egyptian records (and they had a lot of records) suggests that they were a nomadic clan of mercenaries that started pillaging in Lower Egypt and probably were indeed chased off by the Pharaoh into Sinai. Cultures like to produce narcissistic origin stories where they’re the most moral and smart people in the world, and all the other peoples hated them for it and then attacked or enslaved them out of pure resentment towards their greatness. Even Woke is doing the same thing with the 1619 Project and the equally intellectual We Wuz… Read more »
To be fair, the OT usually attributes their defeats and attacks not because they were resented, but because they forsook God. Many OT stories paint them far from moral – usually shows them to be a bunch of ingrates (accurate).
Ismailia Regional Museum in Egypt, 125 miles from Cairo: Hyerogliphic inscription on granite monument found in 1887 and about 2300 years old tells the story of the Exodus from Egyptians’ point of view.
Among other things it depicts a divided water body, the Biblical plague of darkness and more.
Quite so, Anna, it is a true witnessing of the pre-eruption events (the Seven Plagues) and what is likely the largest eruption of the volcanic Thera caldera: the wall of water that smashed into the Israeli delta (and the Egyptian soldiers) was the returning tidal wave caused by that eruption.
Imagine: you are hot on the trail, crossing ground made dry by the retreat of the waters.
You hear a growing roar, and turn…to see a wall of water, twenty stories high, rushing towards you. The Fist of the God.
Joey Campbell was a cuck who spent his life teaching at a women’s college. He knows about as much about my God as Hillary.
Joe’s ‘religions are just myths’ spiel sold well to the neo-pagan and neo-secular generations that lapped his ‘it’s all just a myth’ jive up. The Woke Generations now in charge who Don’t Need No Christian God.
In the years ahead the world will get to see if the God of the Bible and His ‘myths’ are real or not.
Oh, but they did find evidence from the Old Testament. They uncovered ancient Near Eastern cities mentioned in the Bible that had vanished centuries and millennia ago.
Thinking about old habits and why we’ve always done the things we do reminds me of this old saw…
Young newlywed couple decides to have Thanksgiving over at their house and invite their families. As the turkey is being prepared, the new wife proceeds to cut the ends of the drumsticks off the bird. Husband asks why and she replies “… it’s our family recipe, my Mom always made it this way.” During the meal, the new husband asks his mother-in-law why she did the drumstick thing. She replies “The oven was too small.”
I am fond of the well-known quote by a famous Frenchman, Talleyrand, who commented on the restoration of the monarchy after the downfall of Napoleon. The aristocrats tried to pick up right where they had left off 25 years earlier by insisting on the renewal of all of their old privileges and power. Talleyrand said, “Bourbons have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.” Here in the USA we are faced with a ruling class which exhibits exactly the same myopic vision of world dominion. Even if you throw them out, they will never admit their mistakes. Never. Power is the only… Read more »
Thanks! Am familiar with the quote about the Bourbons, but never knew the context. The presumption of privileges after 25 years, without adjusting to new times/context adds depth to the Truth.
I guess one question is WHO is going to be doing the building in whatever comes next after the cleansing fire has run its course. AINO isn’t even a shell of its former self and it’s hard to imagine the existing borders will continue to define its existence with the polyglot crap of a population that now lives within those current borders. I doubt I’ll be around to experience the messy breakup that is surely coming.
Neither elite nor leadership are apt descriptions of the ruling class. They are saying to the founding/heritage stock and the 19th and early 20th century of Europeans who willingly adopted the creed and the American identity, “We do not want you.” I think they say that because they don’t want the nation. It is all of confession through action that a people are the nation. Persecution and enmity are going to get much worse as they say with greater force, “We do not want you.” The sooner a great mass of us gets the message and gets wind of the… Read more »
If there is a silver lining in the modern turmoil, it is the stripping away of bad habits from the Right. Yes, the Right still makes plenty of mistakes, but that is because the Right needs to be completely broken down in order to be rebuilt. The Right got away with their bad habits for so long because they had the luxury of things being so good in this country. Those days are a distant memory. Sometimes I think the catastrophic failures we are seeing today will benefit the Right in the long-term, while being very painful in the short-term.… Read more »
Politics takes a long time to adjust to the culture it is downstream of, especially conservative politics. Progressive/Democrat politics is going warp speed now, in fact they are probably in front of their voters, but Conservative/Republican politics will be sputtering about Reagan and McCain and maybe even Trump for another generation at least. Keep in mind that Trump is considered the furthest fringe for most of the e-GOP. Despite being 75 and basically being a bombastic Reagan with a 5th grade vocabulary. (The Dems by contrast are stocked with Trump types, except they’re bombastic brown lefties with 5th grade vocabularies.)… Read more »
Mr. T is 76, born 6 weeks before me, the reason I know this.
I’ve often argued this from the other side: We assume that since the Fascists lost the war, Fascism is forever discredited as a political philosophy. So even when you see a nation like China having great success with Fascism — it’s almost textbook “national socialism,” small n, small s — people who should know better try to shoehorn US / China relations into the age old “battle of Capitalism vs. Communism.” In that weird Castle Wolfenstein world where Mustache Guy won the war, Stalin gets the Hitler treatment, “Communist” is the all-purpose term of abuse, anyone who wins an argument… Read more »
Z keeps insisting that solutions like fascism are not the path forward because they were failed experiments which attempted to solve the problems of capitalism. Or, maybe his focus in on the people who are doing the LARP with the flags and salutes and so on. In any case, I think something like blood-and-soil nationalism or throne-and-altar nationalism are the solutions to spiraling leftism. Both those ideas are very old and successful, in different contexts. To your point, what is China except a fascist state? What is Russia except a Church-State partnership with a monarch? The next thing will be… Read more »
A question that I sometimes pose on this blog is, “How do we get out of this mess without fascism?”
We can call it a different name if you’d like, but our opponents won’t let us get away with that.
Fascism is a Leftist movement because it assumes, as Marx does, that class conflict is inevitable. Against Marx, it argues that class conflict can be channeled, managed, and largely eliminated inside an all-encompassing national state. Instead of the state withering away after the world proletarian revolution, Fascism makes the state permanent — nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. Which sounds horrible, but… Marx was right, you know? Class conflict IS inevitable. For “class” you may substitute “race,” as you choose, but it’s the same thing in the end: incompatible cultures in close proximity will inevitably clash. And there… Read more »
Just to clarify, when I say “fascism” I mean a state whose highest purpose is the flourishing of a specific people, who share blood, language, and culture. When a corporation wants to outsource or import cheap workers to increase profits, fascism says no. When a cat lady wants to teach your kids that their heritage is evil, fascism says no. I hope that within a fascist white state there would be maximum personal freedom as long as one didn’t advocate for outsourcing, immigration, or a disparagement of the traditional culture. (The definition of “fascism” as a partnership between government and… Read more »
Bingo. However, China seems dangerously veering off course in this endeavor. One, their “social credit system” is beginning to repress such behaviors that are arbitrarily deemed “bad” or anti-state. Two, their leadership tenure limitation has been subverted by Xi Jinping. His successor sooner or later will undoubtedly be considered leader for life. This will inevitably lead to some crazy raking the seat of power sooner or later.
Please note the Chinese “social credit system” talk is largely propaganda. Brian Berletic dissects one such article with concision:
https://youtu.be/gAYnZREu-Mk
Orwell, your reference is simply another opinion not backed by anything but more gratuitous assertions being read from an article. You read/believe your sources and a I’ll believe mine.
What I did see was screen shots of Chinese folks smart phones which tracked vaccination record for Covid. Red screen meaning out of date or unvaccinated, which reduced travel options. Such a system was proposed in the UK as well, but never adopted.
In this case, the phones showing red screen was also used to keep folk away from the banks during their recent “run”.
The difference between China’s social credit system a d ours is the government e forces their’s, private entites enforce ours.
But when the corporation’s volk are negroes and its enemy is the white race, you can be quite certain they will outsource and import to beat the band. And the cat lady doesn’t teach your kids that heritage is evil. She simply wants to replace that heritage with a fictive negro one. Fascism is a partnership between state and corporation, but that is only part of it. That twinned entity also seeks to advance a certain people at the expense of other people. Fascist states also tend to be geopolitically and martially aggressive. Frankly, when I put it all together,… Read more »
And to back up Compsci, what I saw was a Chinese commercial: a smiling young woman in a clean, modern office simply presents her face to a vending machine to receive a drink.
Her bank account tied to facial recognition…
for what, customer conveniemce? So she won’t get mugged of her cash by an African in Chengdou?
“If everything is X, then nothing is X.’ The problem here for our opponents is that they’ve declared everything to be fascism. First, it was just defined as being anywhere to the right of Bill Clinton. But now being white is fascism, being male is fascism, being straight is fascism, going to church is fascism, owning a non-EV car is fascism, keeping the genitals you were born with is fascism, being better at math than Shaneequa is fascism, not taking an under-tested vaccine for an overhyped flu is fascism, with many more everyday fascisms hiding under the bed to bedevil… Read more »
Fair enough. “How do we get out of this mess, if not by fascism?”
I ask with sincere curiousity.
Fans of German fascism (online only, natch) get to hide in a dream world carved out by, well, Germans. When I point out that Franco’s implementation was far more enduring and, alas, performed upon a nation closer to the skills and attitudes of the population we live around they all drop out of the thread. They all want missile bases on the moon and Jews in the camps, not the never-ending slog of sane, civil governance that a rigid, conservative hierarchy should be there to do.
Yeah, and Franco’s fascism worked closely with the Church, the one lending legitimacy to the other.
Political labels are routinely redefined as generic “evil”, similar to how medical terms for developmental disability keep getting repurposed as schoolyard taunts. The main problem with going back to fascism and calling it “fascism” is that you’re basically declaring the National Socialist Retard’s Party as far as normie is concerned.
Chinese fascism works without getting derided as fascism because they don’t play SS dress up or march around with torches.
They have military parades, just like the fascists or commies had. They just don’t look exactly like the SS. Why should they?
Exactly. Our guys should be dressed as Captain America while getting choked to death by the police. That’s how you play the optics game for all the dumb sheep.
Both Hitler and Mussolini were impressed by how well FDR implemented fascism in the US,
Given the regional differences in N. America, the two existing state-level organizations may not survive the coming crises. Nor is that survival desirable if it perpetuates the nations of strangers that we have become, or worse. Creating new nations out of the people we have, and especially their children, may occur as an emergent property that grows out of a response to the current and coming crises. However, it is not a guarantee that the new societies that emerge from the wreckage of N. American polities will be desirable places to live. This is where the role of the elites,… Read more »
I prefer to distinguish between authoritarian and totalitarian. Augusto Pinochet was authoritarian. He sees the rabble being, well, the rabble and brings the hammer down. American elites, like their Bolshevist and Maoist soulmates, are totalitarian: men can be women, citrus fruit will grow in Siberia, you can print money and buy your own debt with it. As reality encroaches, the totalitarian elite go insane and the regime collapses. The new elite will be authoritarian realists, not ideologues. To borrow a phrase, “Whenever I hear the word ‘ideology’ I release the safety on my Browning.” Two ballyhooed concepts, in particular, must… Read more »
Yes. To the extent that labels matter, the right must embrace the ‘authoritarian’ label, and the authoritarian / totalitarian distinction is the perfect place to start. Authoritarianism is nothing more than the insistence that rules be obeyed, which is itself the foundation of civilization. To a first approximation, authoritarianism is the demand that everyone follow the rules, totalitarianism is the demand that everyone think the same thoughts. The difference is made clear by the current western elite, who don’t gave a damn about literal daylight robbery, but will wreck your life forever for saying bad thoughts out loud. Authority is… Read more »
“Our current leadership class is anything but elite and is increasingly forced to use authoritarian methods to maintain their position. Their only vision is more of the same, with them in charge. Any re-ordering of the political arrangements that does not involve elite replacement will likely produce the kind of societies that are not good places to live.”
Exactly. The irony of people who promote PoMo and struggle seeking tstasis is rich. It cannot be done.