The Grand Conspiracy

The funny thing about conspiracy theories is they are a fairly good measure of both social trust and trust in civic institutions. In societies with low trust and corrupt government, people tend to assume things are not as they seem. In high trust societies, people tend to accept things at face value. They also tend to accept what is told to them by the authorities, rather than assume they are lying.

Before the Russian revolution, conspiracy theories were common. Of course, lots of people were conspiring to topple the system, but people assumed that the system itself was not as it was presented. Of course, the Great Fear was a period in the French Revolution where rumors and conspiracy theories about the aristocracy ran wild, ultimately leading the storming of the Bastille.

We seem to be entering a similar phase. People are more likely to believe a rumor about Biden taking bribes than to believe anything he says. For a growing portion of the public, it is assumed that everything that comes from the regime is a lie. The use of the word “regime” is a huge change. It is a word that implies rule by men rather than rule by a system of laws, customs, and institutions.

Of course, it is not helped by the fact that the president is a doddering old fool who barely knows where he is most of the time. The absurdity of this man being in charge of anything raises the question about who is calling the shots. That leads to wondering why they are using a decrepit old man as a puppet. Before long you are down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and shadowing actors.

The coming election will give rise to more conspiracy theories. When a regime begins arresting its opponents, only desperate toadies believe what it says. This leaves the field open to alternative explanations for what is happening. We are entering that phase that occurs before every great period of unrest. The age when rumors and conspiracy sound more convincing than observable reality.


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cg2
1 year ago

Is Z-man off on a FEDERAL holiday?
hmmmm

Tashtego
Member
1 year ago

Totally off topic but on my mind. Imagining a publicly accessible AI platform powered by El-Salvadorian volcanos, tuned to give the right answers and be as accurate as possible. Since there is no government on earth that would tolerate their citizens having access to such a thing it will never happen. Think about that too. If a very accurate and useful AI tool were possible, there is no government in the world that would allow you access to it and there never will be.

Tashtego
Member
Reply to  Tashtego
1 year ago

There i go with that citizen word, ‘subject’ i mean

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Tashtego
1 year ago

The one that grates me is ‘civilian’.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tashtego
1 year ago

Totally off topic as well, but I tried ChatGPT the other night for the first time. Yes, I was a virgin. All I can say is they have a lot of work to do. I asked it how long I could expect to reach $1 million (a la Dr. Evil) if I started with $576.25 doubling my money every 21 days “using safe Treasury bills.” It’s response? 11.07 years. It showed a complicated financial formula to prove its work. ofc it only takes seven or eight months — i forget exactly — using very simple math. I don’t think ChapGPT… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

To make it so chatgpt (or whatever) can’t tell you how far from the nearest black kid you have to live to avoid having your bike stolen, they’ve made it lie about *everything*.

Nerds aren’t smart enough to do nerd things anymore. An algorithmic fix to make a chatbot only lie about shitlib shit is *maybe* a few days’ work for one guy. All of them combined can’t do it at all.

If this made you think of “The Mythical Man-Month,” you’re fired.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

In a way this is the best outcome for AI development. The more people see that the AI just parrots what its moronic creators think, the less inclined they are to view it as a God instead of just a tool that data mines how many times you’ve farted near Siri or Alexa.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

It makes me think of HAL 9000. In the sequel it was said that it was because it was programmed to lie that it went haywire.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Tashtego
1 year ago

Maybe it makes it so they can’t access it either. That’s their problem. They are a human like any other…they trained it on equity, didn’t they?

Tashtego
Member
Reply to  Tashtego
1 year ago

What is the point of a pattern un-recognizer? Why spend money on stupid when you can have it so cheap and plentifully already

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 year ago

Late to this thread and I have only two comments. 1. Is Gretchen Witmer an alternative to Gavin Newsome?Michigan is a swing state and Witmer might be more attractive to the box wine ladies as the first president of vagina. She is, of course, a dreadful person (the Z-man opined during the contrived covid crisis that she was a dominatrix with an entire state to whipà but that may be a plus in this day and age. 2. How will minorities, particularly blacks, react to yet another Democratic presidential candidate who is white. They won’t vote Republican, but a low… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

21st century post plandemic election fortification processes ensure that there is no longer any such thing as low black turnout. Or low youth turnout.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

The formerly great state of Michigan is total Soros/WEF territory now.

plato_spaghetti
plato_spaghetti
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Yup, sadly. Between college kids from UMich/MSU, etc., meth zombies, soccer moms, Dow corporate feminists, and Detroit vibrants, we’ve had it. Might as well have stayed in Jersey.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  plato_spaghetti
1 year ago

UMich is one of 8 well-known universities that still has a jab mandate in place.

The freako Penn State prof did his PhD there.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

Black people don’t vote. Their minders vote for them. So it doesn’t matter for shit who the dems run, it could be a reincarnated Bull Connor and hed stil get 98.2 % pf the black vote.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

At 27:41 Zman makes a comment basically that DeSantis seems to be moving towards the establishment. I agree. I claim no secret insight, but earlier today elsewhere I made a very similar observation. I basically said that as a FL resident I approved of many things that he’d done for the state, but that I had misgivings about just how true to consevative principels he was. Although I did not mention these, the man man has served prior terms in Congress. On the good side that means he has some experience in politics. On the down side, he’s probably in… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

After the Jeb endorsement, what else is there to say

Ploppy
Ploppy
1 year ago

I just want to thank Z for putting a link in for the outro music.

Stephanie
Stephanie
1 year ago

Is Zelensky in a role, at least partly, as an Epstein of Ukraine and Europe?

Stephanie
Stephanie
1 year ago

How kind you are, Z.

DMV lady is more like women’s prison warden. Drunk on power. Giving out bjs to the oversight.

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 year ago

Trump’s point, they are not after him, he’s just in the way and you are next, is correct. Arrests will not stop with Trump. Already there is a press/Newsom led agitation to arrest DeSantis for sending illegals to Sacramento and Manhattan as “cruel and unusual punishment” that is a “violation of illegals civil rights.” The Regime could order the arrest of DeSantis, over that or the Alphabet people in schools, and even occupy Florida in a super-sized version of Ike sending US troops to Little Rock to enforce desegration. This time for a drag queen in every school. And I… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

They better hope there aren’t too many more kids like the ones at the HS in Vermont. Not real good optics when you are cracking down on school kids. Of course the easy lesson there is don’t try to force the kids to wear Pride clothes, but coexistence isn’t enough for these folks, they want subservience.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

There’s nothing the average Democrat voter would rather see than “chud” kids being slaughtered by the government.

B125
B125
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

The insane LGBT agenda pushed from the top is kind of an eye opener. The coalition of the fringes was happy to go along with the LGBT movement in exchange for other things, like open borders and other standard left wing policies. As long as the LGBT stuff was de facto a white person’s movement. But they couldn’t stop themselves. Suddenly every child needs to attend a Drag Queen parade. An entire month of primary school class is devoted to rainbows and homosexual relations. This situation is just not acceptable for: (as you said) Muslims, Armenians, Hispanics, Sikhs, etc. on… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

Outside of Muslims the coalition if the fringes doesn’t care about the anal revolution one way or the other enough to change their politics. Asians want the real estate and remaining school slots of white people. Blacks and Hispanics, outside of Hispanic working class men, want gemme Dat and more immigration.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

” The Regime knows this hence their desire for first widespread arrests of troublemakers like DeSantis over culture (knowing it is a flashpoint that is a real danger no doubt modeled by various data scientists in Google) then the nearly 200,000 the Regime has collected data on, then a much larger group. ” These are the same assclowns who cannot manufacture enough ammunition for “their” side in a proxy war. I don’t doubt they would want to do something like you suggest, but strongly suspect they cannot. Additionally, the revolt against transgenderism is starting in their own backyards. The smarter… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Their inability to manufacture ammo in sufficient quantity is another signpost that gives me some hope their attempted CBDC rollout will be a total clown show.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Remember their ‘Obamacare’ rollout? About like that. And we are years and legions away from that clusterfuck. And god bless Trump for eliminating Obama’s fines for the uninsured. What a dirtbag move that was.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

There is an inundation of Blacks Wuz Unbelievable Geniuses who were destroyed by whitey every time they got off the ground “news” stories out in recent days. I sensed a new escalation. I was right. Now blacks are finding their great-great-great grandfather’s property deeds and saying, without proof of course, that they were kicked off of their land with violence. It is all being ginned up to sell reparations in California. This one is in wine country. I wonder if Pelosi worries if this is too close to home: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-californians-stolen-land-reparations-rcna84970?utm_source=pocket-newtab The Left has no idea what rabid dogs they have… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

I expect to find out that these folks were paid for their property just like the ones in Manhattan Beach were, and like them, they will end up getting paid twice for it. While their white neighbors only got paid once.

Joe Maitre
Joe Maitre
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“‘It was like my ancestors spoke to me,’ Owens said. ‘It was so out of the blue. But it was clear: I should search to see if my great-great-great-grandfather had any land.’

“She scrambled for her laptop. Within minutes, she had to sit back in her chair to process what she had learned.

Within minutes, even. She found *four* deeds from the 1800s, just sittin’ there on the internet.

c matt
c matt
1 year ago

Man, the GOP choices do suck – Trump (who while fun, will be totally hamstringed if not ruling from Leventhworth), DeSantis, who is the “establishment’s” Trump which means totally harmless to TPTB, or the based Indian Shwarma or whatever his name is. Makes me think (if Trump is off the ballot by the time the primaries role around) to go RFK.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

RFK is the only real choice.

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

RFK is the only one that speaks to issues like Trump 1.0 did. Clearly, no wiggle.

Whether that means he can change anything, who knows. But when he talks, you don’t cringe. Plus he has a blood debt to settle.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

I have kept my old registration as a Democrat for two reasons:
1) For some little, raggedy bit of camouflage in Blue Tick Hell NJ;
2) To be able to fuck with the mainstream Democrat candidate, to some small degree; i.e., viting for Sanders to spit in their eye.

It ain’t much, but every little bit of sand in the gears is to the good.

RFK, Jr. knows that he is a marked man, and says that he is taking aome precautions.

Tom K
Tom K
1 year ago

Every presidential election is the result of a Grand Conspiracy. Since 2016 was the Grand Conspiracy That Failed, the usual suspects panicked. Their fat thumbs were so heavy on the scale in 2020 that even the most uninformed saw through the machinations. That may have been the final straw. It wouldn’t surprise me if 2024 marks the end of the present party system. But if you’re right and they regain control in 2024, it just increases the odds of a greater breakup down the road.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

Well, since a conspiracy is, legally, just 2 or more people working toward a common goal, and performing 1 or more acts in furtherance of the goal….pretty much everything in government or big business is a conspiracy…That doesn’t matter, of course, if the goal is not illegal…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

And note, conspiracy charges often contain heavier penalties than the crimes that are said to have been conspired! Hence we see these charges popping up all over when the Fed’s want to lower the boom on some poor souls.

We are indeed a lawless society.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

*by “regain control in 2024,” I mean regain support of the large swathe of mass opinion that has given up on the system.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

You do that by compromising. Tossing the deplorables half a loaf. Doesn’t seem like they have it in them. Indeed, we are where we are in large part because they no longer have that in them.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

They seem to be pretty much in control. What incentive do they have to toss a crumb, much less half a loaf?

There is only room for one ruler, and he does not share power.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

They certainly have it in them to toss the deplorables a loaf they’ve pinched.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

My gosh, that edda at the end.
That language! Like the music of the angels.

That what I imagine we sound like to dogs. They love to hear us talk because we sound like angels to them.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Even the Dutch?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

That was beautiful. Also liked the Celtic Women (popped up when I went to the link).

Guest
Guest
1 year ago

Regarding the Great Fear, the primary concern was that the Royal family would sneak out of France (which they tried), cut a deal with the Austrians (which they also tried), and return to France at the head of an Austrian army to crush the rebellion. By this time in the Revolution the writing was on the wall and much of the Aristocracy had decided to take leave of France so as to keep their heads firmly attached to their shoulders. Aristocratic families formed the backbone of the officer corps of the French Army, so their exodus left the French army… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Canada already opened its military to “Permanent Residents” last year, aka anybody on earth with a pulse, who managed to complete some paperwork and get on a plane. Yes, quite clear where this is all headed. In fact this already happened in the Union army during the American civil war. This time, they won’t be Irishmen. During the Freedom Convoy the white cops seemed to have no problem cracking skulls, but they will be replaced by foreigners anyways. There’s always that 1% chance that a white cop might refuse to fire on his own people… Everyone else would do it… Read more »

miforest
miforest
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

they will eagerly shoot women and children to show loyalty . there is a video of a Mountie on a horse riding over and killing an old woman at some protest. he seemed to be laughing about it .

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

It’s wishful thinking that white cops/soldiers won’t turn on the population when ordered. Find me a time in history when they refused such orders. Few and far between. Regime media will of course prep the propaganda ground ahead of time so that the orders make sense.

Andrew
Andrew
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

You should read about the French revolution. Guards and soldiers refused official orders all the time.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Andrew
1 year ago

Good point.

I also think a Russian commander refused to launch middles during the Cuban Missile event.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
1 year ago

“The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which as overwhelmed all that preceded it.” – Robert E. Lee.
——

Increasingly finding it difficult to even care what the machinations are behind the curtain, because they always end one way: and increasingly despotic regime that tolerates no discord. It’s also stark raving insane.

Bankers aren’t prosecuted. Failed generals aren’t fired. Crooked pols are advanced in rank and cash out when they retire.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Didn’t somebody a few years ago mention something about “so if tomorrow, they were told to wear flowerpots on their heads…?”

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

“Are we not men?! We are Globohomo!”

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
1 year ago

They tell us that we lost our tails
Evolving up from little snails
I say it’s all just wind in sails
Are we not men?

Mycale
Mycale
1 year ago

This isn’t the first time I’ve read (even on this blog!) that the Deep State is engineering some operation to remove the Brandon entity from 2024. So far it has proven to be remarkably resilient to these things. I really think if permanent DC wanted him gone this bribery thing would be all over the mainstream media, but it’s not. Right now it appears more like a plaything for conservacucks. Plus, the Brandon entity is doing whatever the bureaucrats want. They’re willing to play ball. If he dies in office or his senility becomes too great for even CNN to… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

The only reason the Regime had not previously arrested its political opponents was due to international opinion. It apparently no longer cares. My guess is the GAE is downsizing to its European colonies and feels it has them in its pocket. The Ukraine war is aimed just as much at any potential European independence than it is at Russia.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Arrest is the second to last option.

The Regime’s first options are coopting adversaries with money and or sex.

They’re second option is blackmailing them.

They’re third option is destroying the person’s reputation by releasing the blackmail info and or flat out lying about them.

All three of those failed against Trump for various reasons.
The failure of publicly destroying his reputation has been trued repeatedly, and the regime seems genuinely flummoxed by it’s failure.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Wisely or by luck, Trump never tried to pretend to be who he wasn’t. Similar to Berlusconi (RIP), being a womanizer only enhanced his appeal to his supporters so that option was a non starter.

Vittorio Romano
Vittorio Romano
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Agreed. Having a visibly broken down man “in charge” and “winning” elections also functions as a demoralization tool against the dirt people.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

The Biden Burisma bribery thing took one below the waterline when the whistleblower (who had tried to get anyone in US.gov to examine her records) was found dead.

https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/burisma-energy-accountant-who-blew-whistle-on-biden-bribery-scheme-found-dead/

Who ordered her to be iced? Lots of candidates for that…

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“The age when rumors and conspiracy sound more convincing than observable reality.”

You probably mean more convincing than the official line. The rumors and theories are actually more in consonance with observable reality than the official line is.”

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

That’s what I was going to say. The “conspiracy theories” are the observable reality. The official line is manifestly not in accord with observable reality. It needs to be said, however, that many of the things label conspiracy theories are not true, either. If the liberal narrative is like the basic religion of modernity, many of the conspiracy theories are its protestant churches and splinter sects, differing in points of dogma and observance but not really questioning the underlying structure. You notice this a lot in dissident circles. Dissidents can be extremely rabid in defending their heresies. I catch all… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

The problem is there are not very many videos of large planes crashing into huge towers to compare to 9/11. But there are a fare number of controlled demolitions. It looked like a controlled demolition (falling relatively uniformly right into its footprint). But maybe that’s just how towers go when they get struck from an object midway up from the side. I don’t know.

The more important conspiracy is not how the towers physically went down, but who knew about it, when, why and to what purpose?

Pozymandias
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

This is really the only thing that I believe about 9-11, namely that someone had decided that it was time to move to rule through sheer deceit and ultimately – terror. The old system, however inaccurately and hypocritically, provided for open debate, challenge to authority, and a means to use reason and evidence to steer policy. *Someone* decided that it was time for that to end. It’s also become apparent, in the 20+ years since, that the specifics of the mechanism used to usher in this bizarre new tyranny were not that relevant. For years, after all, it was people… Read more »

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Good gracious, I apologize for all the typographical errors in that post. I attribute them to the fact that I am usually writing my comments on this “not safe for work” blog while I am at work, looking over my shoulder, and trying to get my work done at the same time. Apparently, I am not a multitasker.

Carrie
Carrie
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Hopefully you are NOT typing comments to this blog from your work computer.
Always assume keystrokes etc. are being logged and filed away for future reference.
Always keep two separate cell phones (personal and then required that if the job wants you tethered, then they have to pay for the work cell phone, as well as laptop, etc.)

It’s a basic rookie mistake to do anything else, in this day and age.

But heck, I’ve been doing it since at least 2006, so I was predisposed to not trust “the man” anyway.

WildStar
WildStar
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Sounds like a metaphor for the rest of us, in the near future.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

I just figured you were hitting the sauce.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

The way i put it is that the official story of 9-11 is the truth.
But not the whole truth – just a curated portion of it. Mixed in with some misdirection.

That’s the way of globohomo. They don’t outright lie, they always have some facts in their narratives. But they skew them, removing the context and include misdirections to create a false impression.

Gringo
Gringo
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Unfortunately much ‘dissidence’ is simply approved alternate churches. The loyally channeled, preemptively self-discredited opposition.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

Marko – “Every regime needs the illusion of popular consent.” This is a really important point to consider. For years, I would have agreed with this. I hope Zman will write on this specific topic. Because I’m not so sure it’s true anymore. I wonder what others here think. All the “flexing” on Coof, the “rainbow/tran” stuff, St. George, the blatant censorship and election fortification make me think that we are past the point where popular consent is necessary for the regime. If you accept this possibility, the range of outcomes for the upcoming “election” cycle is far wider than… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

I think the key here is “illusion.” When you control practically all the means of communicating information, and constantly belittle any other takes as “conspiracy”, that illusion is not so hard to maintain. Calling anyone who “noticed” the odd coordinated pause in counting ballots and then an 80% shift to the losing candidate a “conspiracy nut” is one way of creating this illusion. The average normie either won’t learn of or seek out the truth or fear being ostracized for noticing. Por encourager les autres.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
1 year ago

Good observation by Z here. Twenty years ago I dutifully believed almost everything I was told by the authorities. Now I believe virtually none of it and have far greater trust in non-authoritative, i.e. unofficial, sources of information. I do not believe I’m an outlier. Far from it.

ray
ray
1 year ago

The layers of power and influence above the level of U.S. politicians is documented, quite real, highly conspiratorial and not theoretical. The exact makeup of these elements is typically inexact and in flux, however. To me, the unreasonable and unsubstantiated position is the belief that Joe Biden runs American domestic and foreign policy. I do not believe the evidence supports that assumption. When lying is the standard of a ruling body, of course the peeps will seek alternate routes to the truth. This opens them up to further scamsters and predators, but also potentially opens them to the truth, which… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ray
1 year ago

Truth exists because at its most basic, truth is reality. The
“first cause” so to speak. The problem is that this “reality” is not easily observable, especially for the common man, hence conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories are simply the blind men describing the elephant from the parts they are “observing”.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

ray: “truth… is objective and does exist” But what if an ancient race of sooth-saying shape-shifting hand-rubbing happy merchants [the origins of which dated to the Bronze Age] had so perfected their techniques of mass mesmerization & mass hypnotization that the Narrative which they sold to their fantasy-infatuated customers became, over time, to those customers, a deeper & moar powerful & moar worshipful set of truisms than was even Truth itself? How do you save souls which, when informed that two plus two does NOT equal five, will react not just violently, but in fact MURDEROUSLY? Will we live to… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Since the end of WWII these people have spent trillions of dollars and billions of words constructing the reality that the typical White griller “believes in”. I would contend though that, like any big budget Hollywood production (which seems to be the template they use for everything), it’s all been suspension of disbelief in the interest of “having a good time” more than active belief itself. The spell of the movies is easily broken if a fire breaks out in the theater. This is what may touch off the endgame for the regime. When there’s no more prospect of having… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

Pozy: “There are plenty of cracks in the theater walls where daylight gets in even now. In fact, this blog itself is one such.” When people say we need to start initiatives in MeatSpace, muh reply is that our memeing here in the cloud is just about infinitely moar important. We need to become the Gestalt and own the Zeitgeist. And we do that be memeing & memeing & memeing some moar. Own the language, own the discussions, own the arguments, own the disciplines, own the culture. That’s what our enemy did our Normies, and turnabout is fair play. Meme… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Bourbon — I hope I have not given the wrong impression on this blog, and if I have then that’s my fault for lack of clarity. I did not mean to misrepresent myself. I’m not a Jew hater, or a black hater for that matter. There are blacks and folks that used to be Jews in my church. If I wanted them out I’d toss them out. As for Jews and ‘mass mesmerization’, both Babylonian and Egyptian sorcery were well-advanced beyond what the ancient Tribes could muster . . . leaving aside the ark, which is Something Else. So I… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  ray
1 year ago

?!?!?

SMDHing.

Grillers gonna grill.

I guess.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

A sure sign a conspiracy is false is if it makes rational sense—follows a “chain” of logical steps, material motives, top-down structures that aren’t the conspiracy itself, etc. That’s not how people act or how they’re motivated, except in petty crime (white). People who conspire against others want to see others hurt. Rational incentives may exist, superfluously. It’s more fun to run down a child in your Ferrari than in a ’94 Taurus, but it’s not the point. The purpose of x is x. “Green” conspiracies, now proceeding openly, are exemplary. Politicians psych themselves up to commit horrors, set the… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

Don’t agree with Bourbon = griller. Don’t agree with the Left = insurrectionist. Despite the fact that you know nothing whatsoever about me and the conditions of my life.

Reflects poorly on you. Good luck with Whitopia!

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  ray
1 year ago

Serious question, bro: R U ackshually a woman in drag?

/N0-H0M0

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

Hemid: “People who conspire against others want to see others hurt.”

It’s very difficult for Normie-Con Grillers to contemplate the horrifying reality of Sadistic Psychopathy.

That’s a zone deep in The Abyss which simply terrifies them.

They do not want to go there, and they do not want to ponder The Horror.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Agree that this is indeed a problem. I’m replying here, though, to your other post where you mentioned me. There’s no reply button on that one so this will have to do. Anyway, I liked what you said about the meme war being important but ultimately, it needs to go to meatspace too. Otherwise we end up fighting our battles with the system alone. I know it’s terrifying to “come out” but our enemies did that and then took over everything. We will not take any of that back posting cartoon frogs on the internet. The Frog let us know… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Pozymandias: “it needs to go to meatspace too” My point is that – at this particular point in time – conquering the world of abstractions [rhetorical lexicons, psychological conditionings, gestalts, zeitgeists, etc] is infinitely moar important than conquering square-footages of real estate in meatspace. First we win the Language War. Then we win the hearts & minds. Then we go physical. Plastering “It’s okay to be White” signs on telephone poles is infinitely moar powerful than throwing a molotov cocktail at a Planned Murd3rh00d ab0rtuary. Win the Language. Win the Rhetoric. Win the Psychological Conditioning. Own the outlooks & attitudes… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Don’t agree with Bourbon that It’s The Jews? Then I must be a ‘man in drag’.

Then Righties wonder why they always lose lose lose. You stab your own warriors in the back and then whine about tyranny overtaking you.

Just as bad as the Left. Worse, really.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ray
1 year ago

Here’s a perfectly valid opening for that near-constant feature of this blog, Layabout offering a Nietzsche quote. Done groaning? Fine, I’ll continue. Central to his philosophy is perspectivism. As an “anti-realist” he denied earlier philosphers had found “The Truth.” They had found nothing of the sort, he asserted. They had, at best, found a new perspective, an interpretation. The ultimate reality is like a text that we are denied access to. What we do have is interpretation, a particular perspective. We can find endless examples of this. For a long time, the Earth was the center of the universe. Along… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
1 year ago

All that is predicated on Normie and Griller and Boomer continuing to sit on the side lines, drinking beer (except for Bud Lite!!!!!), watching the sportzball game and eating potato chips in the most obnoxious flavour possible. If people start to get hungry, and things get really bad – the bullets will start to fly. Regardless of your politics, it is getting harder and harder to keep Normie on the couch watxhing TV. Whatever America is these days… it definitely ISN’T a class society anymore. Thanks to the internet The Beautiful People of the ruling class are no longer all… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

With civil liberties stripped, economic freedom will be next on the block. There is dissolution and fragmentation underway even now. Once food and warmth become hard to get, and that is coming, all bets are off.

As an aside, something interesting happened January 6th up your way. Trudeau, face full of rage and looking demonic rather than stupid for once, appeared on the tube and basically told the Deep State down here he had its back. There almost certainly will be cross-border and possibly international uprisings when whatever happens kicks off.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

That is probably public acknowledgement of the Greater North America project. He probably did it to: a) Continue to normalize open discussion of Canada + US integration b) Say whatever it is he had to say to his handlers in DC. I think Patraeus and his financier buddies have been talking openly about dissolving the US and creating a giant former Canada + former US + former Mexico/Hounduras/Guatamala/Nicaragua … super state. Unless he is gaslighting since he became a war hero for losing in Iraq, it is a conspiracy he and his money men openly discuss. That probably explains the… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Much of Castreau’s response to the trucker protest was directed by the Biden admin, including Joe himself is my understanding

B125
B125
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Yep the rumor is that the White House demanded the blockades at the border be cleared as they were screwing up the auto industry supply chains in the US. Plus it was terrible optics that the peaceful, tolerant liberal Canadians were rising up. Wouldn’t want the dirt people to get any bad ideas. The funniest thing was how it took the Canadian feds 4 weeks to clear what was essentially a traffic jam. Those ass clowns had to invoke the highest emergency order in the land to procure tow trucks and drivers to remove the vehicles. Under the Emergency Act,… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

“Based on how long Biden kept the vax mandate in place on the US border, I think the North American (and especially Canadian) COVID fuckery was initially planned to go on a LOT longer” That’s a really sharp take. There was an absolute news embargo in the States on the trucker strike aftermath and the subsequent lifting of the mandates and so forth up there. That’s a tell and bolsters your point. In a strange way, Covid in significant ways was a good thing down here. Some individual states stood four-square against the central government after a point, and that… Read more »

The Greek
The Greek
1 year ago

Two things: 1) Why are they doing this to Trump? As you noted, there are a lot of things that don’t make sense in their indictment of Trump. It might be cliché to reference 1984 these days, but here it goes. Why did the regime in 1984 not just kill the protagonist? They wanted to brainwash him and win his soul first. The regime wants to win over the minds and souls of Trump voters and make them admit that orange man bad. They need everyone to accept their narrative. 2) Newsom is the easy pick for favorite of the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

You are quite right about the Power Structure’s need to impose ideological conformity. As long as there are dissenters and unbelievers, there will be mass propaganda and repression. But there will also be war because the GAE demands ideological conformity–and uniformity–not only domestically, but also abroad. Nations such a Russia, that largely defy and reject Leftist ideology, will continue to be targeted for violent destruction. That is why I sometimes say that the GAE will exert ideological imperium over the entire planet or it will reduce it to a flaming cinder. PS–In the Stupidity Sweepstakes, it’s a dam’ close race… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

RT offers an “Analysis” entitled “By using its nuclear weapons, Russia could save humanity from a global catastrophe.” I realize this is (Their) regime propaganda but it’s quite chilling reading. They paint GAE as the villain, but isn’t there more than a grain of truth in that accusation?

https://www.rt.com/russia/578042-russia-nuclear-weapons/

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

He seems to think they can just nuke half a dozen cities without things escalating out of control.

I do think it’s possible they could nuke Kiev without the west retaliating immediately. But his whole point is to instill the fear of God in the hearts of western leaders, and it’s questionable if that alone would do it.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

The big problem with Newsome is that he is White. He’s not just White, he’s handsome, tall White man. He is everything the coalition of the fringes hates, and the coalition of the fringes is the gatekeeper there. It’s tough to underestimate just how much these people hate Whites. Despite how crazy it is, it really does seem as though Dems up and down are all in on this stuff. It’s why he is trying to burnish his reputation with these freaks by talking identity politics all day every day on Twitter, but unlike everything else, you can’t change your… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

This is quite possible and I’ve thought the same. Self-abasement and degradation may not be able to overcome his skin color. Biden easily won over blacks with promises of gibs, but white totalitarians and Hispanic nationalists mostly just played along. It would require him to embrace expressly anti-wbite platform positions and to kick labor unions to the curb. Doable? Maybe but that’s quite a balancing act.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Upvoted. However, I think you meant overstate instead of underestimate.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Biden is white too. So what? Democrats obey the narrative and back who they are supposed to back. Maybe someday the duskier ones will get uppity about it, but that hasn’t happened yet.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

The part of the coalition of the fringes that hate him is miniscule. Maybe true BLMrs and some blue haired freaks. But your typical AWFL, suburban soccer mom, and wine-box cat lady, not to mention minority women, probably have rape fantasies about him. He is Bill Clinton 2.0, all the charm and twice the looks.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Newsome will come out as a tranny, because it’s the only way his burning ambition can be satisfied.

But unlike most of the mentally ill people who do this, his coming out will be entirely calculated and disingenuous.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

That made me howl in part because it is so plausible and shouldn’t be so in the least, circa 2015 or so.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Hahaha – he’s tranny, but lesbian.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Greek
1 year ago

Trump is toast. The Espionage Act he’s being prosecuted under is jailtime, not fines. The Pew Research published a good breakdown of federal prosecutions: in 2022, of those defendants dumb enough to go to a full blown trial, only 290 of 71,954 defendants were acquitted. That’s a 99.6% conviction rate. Kangaroo Court, anyone? — Zman has brought up elsewhere another big problem: Attorneys who defend Trump are liable to lose their professional licenses to practice law. There’s a very real and well funded movement to go after anyone who’ll put up a zealous defense in court on behalf of Trump.… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 year ago

And this is the whole point of the charges. To send a message.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
1 year ago

I don’t think the regime wants Trump off the ticket. Just the opposite, they want to run against him because they believe they can beat him. We will see a series of indictments and developments in the court cases from now until election day. This will keep him in the news and rob everyone else of oxygen. Trump’s behavior since 2020 has alienated a lot of supporters, GOP and Independents, who won’t vote for him again. No one wants to listen to a campaign of “you’re a crook” vs “you’re an insurrectionist” for the next year or so. If DeSantis… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 year ago

Ford arguably lost his election to Carter precisely because he pardoned Nixon. I suspect that is on the mind of those candidates asked about the potential for a Trump pardon. Of course, we are in a completely different world politically than we were in ‘76.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 year ago

I’d prefer that DeSantis pardon Trump, but I’d REALLY like to see him read Biden his Miranda rights on the Inauguration podium. But on second thought, announcing that both would be pardoned would probably appease the less vengeful among us. That said, my fond hope is that the full fury of an RDS administration be turned on BLM, Antifa, the Soroses, and the ADL under the RICO Act. (As one New Republic pundit (Jewish) noted some thirty five years ago, it’s funny that the first letters of the law spelled “RICO” and not “MORRIS.”). Concurrently, Schiffhead, et. al. should not… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  crabe-tambour
1 year ago

Downvoted because DeSantis will never be president and secondly he is 99% one of them.

I.M.
I.M.
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 year ago

The RNC wants Trump off the ticket because (1) they despise their base voters and (2) the big donors have already bought every other candidate, so no matter which other chump gets the nomination he’s Uniparty Approved. If despite all the dirty tricks they end up stuck with Trump, they’ll just go out & throw the election anyway. See 2018 in particular where they essentially walked off the field to hand Trump a (D) Congress. The DNC probably doesn’t care as much as you’d think because they’ve got the election fortified anyway. They’ve got their own problem in trying to… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 year ago

Too many pardons would erode confidence in the regime just as effectively as too many prosecutions. Maybe even moreso.

But speaking of pardons, the only path to something resembling greater unity, the path to everyone kind of taking a deep breath, is a winning D candidate who is willing to pardon the J6ers.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 year ago

I can’t see how the regime would want Trump on the ticket. The regime is not about “we think we can beat him” odds. The regime is about sure things. Getting Trump off the ticket means pissing off at least 50% if not more of the GOP’s base. If it is the GOP itself that removes him, then they can kiss any shot at national office good-bye (to the extent they even had one). It will take a lot of GOP Congress-critters down too. Just don’t see how the regime passes up that opportunity.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

Speaking of sure things, or at least lower risk strategies, it seems like the obvious play is to co-opt Trump. Certainly lower risk than doing whatever is necessary to stop him from running. It’s not as if you can’t make a deal with him. Somehow they just can’t bring themselves to. I’m certain some of them believe the most insane TDS type stuff, and that’s part of it. But they can’t all believe that? It seems like I’m still missing some piece of the picture on why they are so categorically opposed to him.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

It is an absolute mystery. Trump is a sucker for flattery, and they passed. There foot soldiers obviously are psychopaths, and we have seen indications the madness has pushed upwards, so maybe there is no rational reason, as is often the case.

B125
B125
1 year ago

It’s funny to see those clowns trying to get rid of Trump. Same as 2016. Trump is the man and he will run for office as long as Trump wants to. There is only one option to remove Trump from the ballot and I don’t know that the deep state is confident enough to go there in 2023. It’s too bad that DeSantis is going all in on the presidency. Day 1 in office he will be a repeat of w. Bush – increased Ukraine funding and undying support for our Greatest Ally. Unfortunately, Trump’s legacy will ultimately be sound… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

If the war in Ukraine is not finished by Inauguration Day, then there is something very wrong with our current understanding of the Russian-NATO matchup.

Art Metcalf
Art Metcalf
1 year ago

In 1996, First Things published its “The End of Democracy: The Judicial Usurpation of Politics,” which caused a tremendous stir at the time for its use of “regime” to describe what was occurring: “Americans are not accustomed to speaking of a regime. Regimes are what other nations have. The American tradition abhors the notion of the rulers and the ruled. We do not live under a government, never mind under a regime; we *are* the government. The traditions of democratic self-governance are powerful in our civics textbooks and in popular consciousness. This symposium asks whether we may be deceiving ourselves… Read more »

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

The people in power want to stay in power. And one way to accomplish this is to make the term “conspiracy theorist” derogatory and then label all dissent as conspiracy nonsense and all believers as kooks. It helps if you own the MSM and social networking platforms, which are then used to shame and deride these kooks and their ideas. And it matters not if this actually works to suppress dissent in individuals. All that matters is the perception that it works, which sows doubts among the untermenschen and keeps them from realizing that they are a majority. When the… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Until now, I had never before heard of the term, “#10 cans”.

Before searching on the term, I figured you were talking about something you would need to purchase at gμnbr0ker d0t c0m.

[e.g. something you would feed to an Aye Are Ten…]

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Tom, you’ve repeatedly referred to larder stocking in the past. No disagreement here. However, does this belie a belief in the system—as in recovery? Seems all these plans to remain independent are finite in length and eventually depend on a reformation of order before these measures run out. Few folks can live off the grid.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Given it is the start of summer, it is easy to miss but cold weather will begin in Europe in four months (earlier in the northern extremes). If the war is winding down this year, it should be then. The warmer than normal last winter is unlikely to be repeated. Macron is making noise about it already. As for the political aspects, it is impossible to see how any debate whatsoever will be allowed if the war drags into next year. We have to see the deplatforming of Trump along with the war as a piece. RFKJr. will be silenced… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

And who, exactly, is Macron, and why is he tugging on the sleeve of BRIC(S) for an invite to push his line? Certainly not for the benefit of France (it is to laugh, mon ami), as everyone knows his lack of interest dor the well-being of La Belle France.

Read this post by Andrei Martyanov which, in my estimation, provides a more accurate take on for (((whose interests))) he truly advocates.

http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/06/elaboration-on-macron-and-brics.html?m=1

c matt
c matt
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

Probably just hedging his bets. Of course you’re right he doesn’t give a flip about France (or more accurately, the average Frenchman). But he does know that his fortunes are tied to at least not the total destruction of France. If things go too sideways, he could get the French style royal treatment. At the least, take a significant cut in his standard of living/international standing. Being the clever weasel that he is (learned from his masters), he will play both (and all ) sides.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Its not about living off the grid, but rather surviving the interregnum (which is impossible to predict in terms of duration – too many variables). But a single #10 can of refried beans can feed you for a month if you include a sack of hard tack with it. No, its not ideal, but almost no one in our current population has ever experienced real hunger in their lives and it’s a game changer when it happens. People will do pretty crazy things when they’ve gone 3 days without a meal. It’s not well known here, but when the Soviet… Read more »

Fred Beans
Fred Beans
1 year ago

On almost a daily basis, I’m reminded of when, in the summer of 2018 a radio news segment about the Russian hoax had a sound bite from some “expert” predicting that Trump would be allowed to avoid certain imprisonment by resigning the presidency. It’s been Deja Vu ever since.

FooBarr
FooBarr
1 year ago

I believe in the Smorgasbord theory. There are conspirators and there are the eager narrative parrots. Some are both. For example, some of these DAs and attorneys believe the narrative they’ve had to believe their entire lives, (I be down here cause slavery and whitey), because it assuages their fear of failure and is the key to their non-meritorious acquisition of power. Then, they get this opportunity and if they have half a brain they realize they can get a payout by playing ball and serving the conspirator’s narratives. Speaking of narratives, I worked for a company where the CEO… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  FooBarr
1 year ago

Some time within the last six months or so, I stumbled upon a story about a new stock fund which specialized in SHORTING the stocks of poorly managed companies. It was created by some young whipper-snapper types, who were deploying/employing/paying/bribing spies in various companies in order to get dirt on managerial incompetence and fancifully nonsensical bidness models. Unfortunately, in 2023, trying to search on generic market fund keywords to find any specific fund is an exercise in futility; all you get are hundreds upon hundreds of pages of paid marketeering nonsense, so I will likely never hear of those guys… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

All you have to do is read their DEI statements.

WildStar
WildStar
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

The only problem there is that it doesn’t account for the government or other powerful entities shoveling money to prop the failing companies up. Or in some cases, outright legislating their competitors out of business.
We all remember “too big to fail”, and while that was one of the most egregious cases, it was hardly unique. There are many companies today that would be worthless if it wasn’t for secret (and not so secret) state backing.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

A DeSantis win would make a lot of people believe in the system again.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Having a repeat of 2020 election night (with the mysterious pause at 9pm, the delayed mail-ins) would further erode confidence among the great swath of the non-political and what normie “vote harder” conservatives remain. Maybe, just maybe, normal people start tuning out of democratic theater. Every regime needs the illusion of popular consent. So my prediction is there will be shenanigans in the other direction: 2024 will be made to feel smooth. There won’t be the chaos of 2020. TPTB will make sure the counting looks legit, and a winner will be called promptly in the late evening. The press… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Sure, My point is that a DeSantis win would be good for the regime, because it would placate a large part of the conservative / MAGA crowd. They have nothing to lose with DeSantis. He is their man, only with above average sweat production.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

True, assuming the Regime cares about the feelings of of the MAGA crowd. That’s a big assumption. If they were actually smart, they’d divert the MAGA energy into DeSantis (or a yet unknown candidate who can pretend to be populist), let DeSantis win, and then let the normiecons grill again.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Interesting supposition. However, I think it assumes too much sanity of part of the Left. They have, for all intent and purposes, won the process. Why allow it to work against them? Certainly from what I see here in my State, no meaningful election reform has been permitted to pass. No sure I see any different in other States with large “blue” voting populations. No, I suspect they (Leftists) will certainly improve their election fortification process, but never allow elections to work against their interests, which of course is *power*. No sure TPTB prefer this, but are they able to… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

“it assumes too much sanity of part of the Left”

Correct. The question you implied–how much does the Regime control the Left?–is a key one. It can turn Antifa, BLM and its other terror organizations on and off, and manipulate Karen, but the rest? I dunno.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

What’s “the rest”?

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

@c matt:

True Believers, non-profits, NGO’s, etc. Those have more agency and are harder to control. Content alert: to get a feel for the mindset, watch the YouTube videos for Democracy Now! and try to imagine herding those cats.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Sundance over at the Conservative Tree House has already pointed out the choreography for such a “normalized” election becoming visible. He made note that DeSantis is calling out Newsom for not committing to a presidental run. In other words, “Come on in, the water’s fine, the UniParty has both of our backs. If you play ball with TPTB you might win, or if not, your future will be assured in some fashion, and maybe in a better way than being their front man”.

c matt
c matt
1 year ago

Of course, it is not helped by the fact that the president is a doddering old fool who barely knows where he is most of the time.

It is also not helped by the fact the conspiracy theories turn out to be more accurate than what the regime peddles.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Yeah, I disagree. Here’s my Alex Jones take: A modus vivendi has been reached in that both Joe Biden, who was a throw down president as it was, and Donald Trump are both to be ushered off the stage. The absence of Trump will lead to catastrophic Republican losses up and down the ticket, but that’s the price of doing business. A third person, possibly someone either endorsed by Trump or Trump himself, gets on the ballot in key Republican states. This is the fly in the ointment and where the real battle will be fought–preventing a third guy’s ballot… Read more »

ex-poster-factotum
ex-poster-factotum
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Vichy Republican

Vichy Consevative

Vichy Libertarian

These need to be pushed and pushed hard.

Jeremy H. Proffit
Jeremy H. Proffit
Member
Reply to  ex-poster-factotum
1 year ago

Rich Lowry’s The Vichy Review

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

As we saw in 2020, Biden doesn’t need to campaign. The media will do that for him. His deterioration is probably irrelevant. I can come up with no reason for Harris to accept a demotion as long as she is VP.

But I am sure they have planned this out. Somehow. Kind of like how they planned out the big Ukie counteroffensive.

Maxda
Maxda
1 year ago

The Republican Party pulling Trump off ballots would be the end of the party. So I hope they do it.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

It will and they will. Quite a few of the GOP “leaders” are stupid enough to think otherwise, too. 2016 was the last time the Republican Party was nationally viable as it is, and the impotence will spread to the states after this stunt.

It is indeed a good thing.

Member
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

If Vichy doesn’t do it, I can almost guarantee that Democrat controlled states will not allow Trump to be on the ballot in their states to save Our Democracy. He’s a criminal, and an insurrectionist and aagent of the Bad Russian Man. Vichy will, gleefully, agree. And collect their 30 pieces of silver.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Pickle Rick
1 year ago

IIRC, this was suggested prior to Covid in those states. After Covid (AC), they knew other means were at their disposal.

Member
1 year ago

The Bad Orange Indictments are a loyalty test for the Vichy Right, as well as Florida Man. It really could turn into the election of 1860, if the Bad Orange Man decides to quit being a CivNat and get capital S Serious and run even if he’s under indictment, even if the Republican Party kicks him out. President Pudding Pop is increasingly the 21st century’s James Buchanan, and if the Bad Orange Man and Florida Man are running, that could signal the Night of the Long Knives within the Democratic Party to replace him. It could be the two parties… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Pickle Rick
1 year ago

The Floyd riots were the John Brown moment.

JeffBezosSucksWetFartsOutOfDeadPigeons
JeffBezosSucksWetFartsOutOfDeadPigeons
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

And the slap on the wrist for the Bike Lock Bandit of Berkeley was our Charles Sumner moment.

JeffBezosSucksWetFartsOutOfDeadPigeons
JeffBezosSucksWetFartsOutOfDeadPigeons
1 year ago

In my experience, most people using the term “deep state” aren’t using it to mean a secret cabal underneath a volcanic island. The most popular general meaning seems to be more or less what for decades was referred to as the military-industrial complex, as well as the vast unelected bureaucracy. Of course as we all know, in 2016 the military-industrial complex was revealed to be nothing more than an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson

The term originated with the Ottomans and referenced the caliphate’s permanent bureacracy that remained intact regardless of the sultan. It is a very apt term for what is the situation in the United States. Some prefer “administrative state” because it sounds less conspiratorial, but “Deep State” has a long history and I like it.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar

Far as I know the first US president to publicly utter the phrase deep state was Bill Clinton and nobody seemed to have a big problem with it when he did. If memory serves, it was accepted, at the time, that he had a point. Of course Ike talked about the same thing in different terms much earlier. Anyhow, a mere one generation after Clinton, it’s a “conspiracy theory.”

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Clinton once said his mentor was Carroll Quigley, the great American conspiracy theorist/braggart.

The deep state loved his flattery and paid him to deliver it personally. The American military idée fixe that “diversity” is its highest value comes directly from him—probably the most significant civilian military consultant—not from German communists or French deconstructionists.

Quigley also pioneered The Chomsky (for continentals, The Derrida): calling everyone outside the establishment who cites your work Nazis. His writing isn’t digestible by the untutored reader, see. It’s for the generals and whoever follows them.

Straussian!

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

It is interesting. I was reading some TGR things the other day. One was a speech Clinton gave, I believe at that Portland college of ferals that kicked out the rabidly leftist Weinstein guy. It was remarkable how Clinton harped on the importance of the Constitution. It was filled with his authoritarian bent that immigration was a done deal … What was interesting was how much he stressed that the immigrants would need to become Americans and understand our system of government and learn about our history … … Other than the, “there will be mass immigration and you will… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Ol’ Bill was the king of faking sincerity.

c matt
c matt

Even Napoleon recognized the existence of a deep state (his quip about 1000 bureaucrats running France). It seems it is almost inevitable once you get to a certain size.

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