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A good rule when trying to understand anything in the Middle East is to first assume that nothing is as it appears on the surface. This is the land of endless intrigue and a land nearly devoid of candor. Another good rule is to assume all interested parties are lying, even those outside the region. This is especially true of anything concerning Israel, which is usually at the center of intrigue. Naturally, that is the place to start when analyzing the recent fighting in the Levant.
For those living off-grid until this morning, the Arab militia group Hamas launched a series of daring raids into Israel from the Gaza strip. They overran Israeli border posts, blinded radar systems, and attacked IDF garrisons. Once inside Israeli, they attacked some sort of outdoor rave that was going on at the time, killing hundreds of people and taking many of them as prisoners. Israel is now promising to genocide the Arab population in the Gaza strip in retaliation.
The first question to ask is how was it possible for such a large, complex operation to happen in a walled ethno-state like Israel? The IDF is a fully modern, high-tech military that is supposed to be the best in the word at defending against insurgents, yet they were caught unawares by Hamas. Further, Mossad exists to monitor these populations for exactly these sorts of threats. Somehow, poorly armed militants were able to organize this without being detected.
Adding to the intrigue is this story in the Wall Street Journal claiming inside information on how this was planned. Since we know regime media does no independent reporting, it means the story was recited to them by the regime. Is it plausible that Washington knew about this while Israel knew nothing? How likely is it that Washington knew about this and did not relay warnings to Israel? Maybe the story is a fake planted by the neocons to paint Iran as the villain.
Regardless, this attack could not come at a better time for the Israeli government, which has been in crisis for a year. Not so long ago there were large protests over constitutional reforms pushed by the Netanyahu government. Some thought civil war was possible, due to the scale of unrest. Those protests reflect a larger demographic problem within Israel. The old liberal ruling class stopped having children, while the ultra-orthodox continue to breed like rabbits.
A full-scale mobilization and war on the Palestinians is just the thing to suppress dissent and whip up support for the state. After all, this is the reason that Washington has been on a war footing since 1945. All of the parties in Israel will now have no choice but to fall in behind the Netanyahu government, at least until the emergency is over and the hostages are returned or killed by the IDF. The early results suggest the plan is to annihilate Gaza and drive off the remaining population.
There is another benefit. For decades Israel has been trying to get the United States to attack Iran and topple the Iranian regime. This was the neocon plan in the Bush years, but the debacle in Iraq forced them to table the idea. Hamas and Hezbollah are backed by Iran, so a slaughter in Gaza could provoke Iran, which in turn would give Washington an excuse to attack them. The bodies were not cold and Lindsey Graham was out reading this exact script to the media.
Israel and the neocons are not the only people dancing on rooftops over what they are calling Israel’s 9/11. The Saudis are probably taking a sigh of relief. Washington has been pressuring the Saudis to normalize relations with Israel, something they would like to avoid as it would complicate their relationship with Iran. Both countries are now in BRICS and slowly working through their longstanding issues. Of course, China and Russia are promising both sides support in this effort.
The Saudis have not made it this long by luck. They understand that the world is changing, and they know their role in this new world will change with it, but they are not going to get ahead of things either. They probably want to see how things develop with Russia and China before alienating Washington. If they can remain on good terms with all sides for now, they have more cards to play. This new flare up in Arab-Israeli tensions give them an excuse to slow-play Washington.
Then we have Iran, which is going to get the blame from Israel and the neocons for instigating this attack. Whether Iran did or did not greenlight the attack is debatable, but they have real power in this game. They have also cultivated strong relations with Russia and China, who would love to play a bigger role in the region. This new war gives Iran a reason to invite both counties into the process of finding a solution to the conflict, thus strengthening Iran.
That is another angle to this that does not get mentioned. Washington has been slowly pushed out of regional politics, outside of Israel and the garrisons in Syria. With the massive drain on the American war machine in Ukraine, is Washington capable of launching a war against Iran? Can Israel sustain their war without new supplies from Washington, which may be low on weapons too? In 2006 Israel actually ran out of certain munitions fighting Hezbollah.
In other words, Iran may be calculating that this is now the time to reset the game board in order to setup new negotiations. Imagine a scenario in which both China and Russia are pushing for a regional peace conference, but Washington and Israel are pushing for war with Iran, but neither has the means to do it. Just as every other Western empire has exhausted itself in the Middle East, Iran may be thinking the Global American Empire has exhausted itself and is ready to leave.
This brings up another angle. The Russians are the big winner in this for the simple reason that the West now has to choose between Israel and Ukraine. Washington had to requisition 80% of Israel’s reserve munitions for Ukraine. They scoured the empire for weapons and ammunition. Facing a second front, they will have to choose and everyone on planet earth knows who will win that one. A hot war in the Levant is going to make for a very cold winter in Ukraine.
This may not be the worst thing for Washington. Ukraine is a loser that will only end poorly, so putting that war on the ignore list and focusing attention on this new front in the Middle East could be a blessing in disguise. Right now, the volunteer army of Ukraine experts are rebranding as Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran experts, so the Ukraine war can be quickly forgotten. The power of regime media is the power to ignore, so if they ignore Ukraine, everyone ignores Ukraine.
One interesting sidenote to all of this is the conservative zombies chanting about how weakness in Ukraine has led to aggression against Israel. They have no idea why they are saying this, but they are not entirely wrong. The failure in the proxy war with Russia has exposed the rot in the American system. Decades of looting and grifting have left the empire unable to follow through on its threats. As a result, the world is becoming less afraid of Washington’s bluster and bullying.
That is the subtext to all of this. The fossils from the Reagan-Bush Museum are not wrong when they say Israel is the only Western outpost in the Middle East. It is just that the West is in decline and that means these outposts will be abandoned or overrun as part of the process of decline. If Israel is to survive it means becoming something other than an outpost of the West. If the West is to survive, it means abandoning these outposts and setting about the task of renewal.
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Appalachia’s finest band, Big Thief, has a new song in this vein, “Vampire Empire”:
I’ve had it with the jews
there’s nothing left to choose
Like a vampire empire I am
Fall-ing, yeah, fall-ing
Even when it comes out wrong, the addition of Aryan White genes is like a supercharger; even this broken, deviant branch, I must say, does punch hard.
This is the most realistic, level headed Realpolitik I’ve seen in decades.
More comprehensive, too, covering all the angles in a short, concise post.
Zman at his best. Goodness, if only we had someone like this at the State Department.
So I was watching some video of the Jewish settlers protesting in the mosque, and looking at how extraordinarily ugly and awkward-looking the teenaged males were. I wonder if all the spite, the viciousness, the endless need for revenge, is caused by that. Imagine going through puberty looking either like Sam Bankman or Mclovin, depending on your BMI. It also makes sense why that “zit-faced nerd gets the girl and beats the evil jock” is such a common Hollywood trope given the ethnicity of the writers, they’re all mentally trapped as teenagers and perpetually trying to get revenge for being… Read more »
Did Whiskey get called up by the IDF?
It’s kinda eerie for the first poast on a j00 thread not to be Whiskey.
If Whiskey gets rubbed out in the sh!t, then I’m almost gonna get kinda sorta melancholic.
I’ve been SMDHing at Whiskey for almost a decade now.
No Whiskey would be very very weird.
A strange new world.
This weekend has been a stark reminder to me of why I went from being a fire-breathing warhawk in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 to almost entirely antiwar today. It has been sickening to watch both people I (normally) like and people I hate indulging in a celebration of violence and carnage — whether it’s carnage that has already happened or carnage that is yet to come. Not to go all hippie on you guys, but this kind of thing just poisons your soul. At some point over the past decade I got tired of poisoning my own soul with… Read more »
I’m with you. I read this article(consider the source)
https://www.unz.com/article/jewish-scholarship-exterminated-by-new-anti-semitism-definition/
It seems like all this reparations bullshit is misdirection about who was involved with the slave trade. I think that what happen to the innocents in Israel is horrible. But these mfers who provide the mayhem need to be stopped.
That makes two of us Mr. B. Ten years ago I would have been spewing rage, spitting nails and baying for moslem blood for attacking our friends and allies like this. But then I learned who my friends and enemies really were. My enemies are right here. I know their faces, now, I know what their goals are, and I know what I am going to do if they get stupid about it. But – many things will have to go seriously wrong to get there from here. Be of good cheer! The dissident movement is growing now at an… Read more »
Notice all of the neocons calling for war on Iran. More Americans have been killed in just this past year by illegal aliens than Israelis will have been killed in this attack. A lot more. If we were to be consistent then the neocons should advocate for levelling Mexico and several other Central and South American countries. Orders of magnitude more people have been killed in Ukraine by their own government from 2014 to 2022, than Israelis have ever been killed by Hamas. Some populations are more important than others I suppose. If the U.S. starts a war with Iran… Read more »
Welcome to the human race. We’re not a very attractive species.
Funny thing. MTG did her typical slime Gab that we must stand with Israel when this broke out. Got completely ratioed like 2000:1 (only put 1 bc can’t divide by 0). Now, all her Gabs on the subject are along the lines we need to secure our border so we don’t end up like Israel. Guess she got the message.
I think its World War 3. I think Israel will do everything it can to get/trick/bribe/false flag/etc the U.S. into ultimately directly fighting its neighbors for it, looking to settle scores while american jews, boomers, and jewish boomers are still in power. I think Russia, a patron of syria and friend of Iran, will want to use the situation to get back at the U.S. for supporting Ukraine, and will likely (in the long run) oblige Hezbollah, Hamas, Assad, et al with economic and military aid. I think China, desperate for oil supplies, will attempt to use Israel and its… Read more »
2 things are certain at this point:
1.Iran had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Israel
2.Ukraine is going down next year.
I believe you’re half-correct.
sentry: “Iran had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Israel”
crabe-tambour: “I believe you’re half-correct.”
!!! IRON DOME WAS TURNED OFF !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome
Gee, I wonder why.
Hint: USS Maine, RMS Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, 9-11.
AC had the only possibly accurate take on the matter:
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-10-09-2023/
Any ostensible members of the Dissident Right who don’t understand WTF is happening here need to go to the nearest pediatric urological monster to have their gonads removed and their manhood inverted, with follow-up visits to the pediatric endocrinologist for estrogen & progesterone injections.
“Israeli warning to Hezbollah: IDF will destroy Damascus, target Syrian President Assad if Hezbollah joins war; US warships will support Israel in war. Message relayed via France”” from @IsraelRadar_com
This is exactly why, for decades, Mossad agents Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell targeted young non-Jewish white girls for rape, corruption, and soul destruction with their pedo-pimp blackmail organization, and why I imagine Mossad has also run other blackmail/threat organizations – to control American elites and ensure that the USA would self-destructively do Israel’s bidding specifically at a time like this.
Something I wrote for my Gab page: I see the images from Israel, and I want to be sympathetic. Many of the civilians killed look kind of like normal white people who would have been going about normal Western lives. And the horde of Hamas fighters remind me of the mass of brown and black savages that riot and commit crime in America and Europe, many of whom would probably love to do something similar to us if they could. But then I remember that: * Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were Mossad agents who specifically targeted and were responsible… Read more »
Plus, of course, the “Sampson Option”, where Israel has allegedly let it be known through back channels that if it is ever destroyed, it will nuke and demolish the white capitols of Europe, taking the people they hate most down with them
MysteriousOrca, check out this World Health Organization [WHO] data, concerning the V@xxines of Death… Occupied Palestine [West Bank & Gaza Strip]: 73.48 doses administered per 100 persons Jewish Israel proper: 207 doses administered per 100 persons SOURCE: https://covid19.who.int/?mapFilter=vaccinations ========== It’s entirely possible that the Kosher Coroners & Kosher Medical Examiners in Israel have been warning Bibi that if he wants to start WWIII, then he better hurry up, because they’re quickly running out of young people to die in such a war. [That’s assuming, of course, that Israel received v@xxines of equal toxicity to those which poisoned the USA, which… Read more »
Israel and its quislings in the USA and allies did 911 or were accessories to it before and after the fact. Bin Laden and those associated with him plus allot of Muslims were the patsies and subsequent victims of Jew led aggression.
This is the truth so quit worshipping and obeying Jews for they are of their father the devil. John 8:44
My lifetime experience of 50 plus cycles around the sun, and my inside knowledge from living inside their communities for decades leads me to a singular conclusion with corollary: death to all small hats, all even “the good ones,” and nuke their corpses from orbit just to be sure. I did not start off this way, don’t want to do it, but we owe it to them.
I think Israel is going to walk into a carefully-set trap. Bibi has already vowed to annihilate Gaza and has called up 300,000 troops. But Gaza is so densely populated, it is a guarantee that the IDF will end up killing and maiming thousands of women and children. There will be plenty of Arab cell phone video out there making the IDF look like monsters. Beyond that, the only way the IDF can take on Hamas in a dense urban environment is house-to-house fighting, where Israeli air power and technology will be neutralized. Hamas will be able to inflict serious… Read more »
There is already plenty of cell phone video out there making the IDF look like monsters. What difference has it made?
The IDF ARE monsters, but boomers dont care, because they are golem.
Not all boomers, please don’t generalize.
Could you imagine if the Taliban and some Ukie arms dealers have been kitting them out with Javelins and other anti-tank weapons for the past few years? I don’t think that happened as the Palestinians are not that organized (barring this incident) and truthfully, are not really well liked in the region other than as political pawns. But it would be some wild sh-t if they had amassed lots of “surplus” courtesy of Uncle Sam’s ignoble retreat from Afghanistan and the fact that we are throwing so much hardware at Ukraine that I’m sure is leaking into the black market.… Read more »
like any media outlet in the western world would air any of that video. what planet do you live on? youtube would cancel you in a heartbet if you tried to pst it there too.
The Ultra-Orthodox are exempt from military service. A quick Google says they are about 13% of Israel, expected to grow to 33% by 2060. For a while that’s a tolerable minority avoiding serving, but long-term it seems a weakening factor. The Arab citizens of Israel are forbidden from it. At least the reasons for this particular case is fairly easy to grasp, even by an obtuse observe such as yours truly. Arabs are 17-21% of the population, depending upon citizenship. By my figuring, that means that a third of the population won’t serve in the military. For the remainder, if… Read more »
“Major point: Judaism is far from monolithic.”
Is this like how blacks are not monolithic and although theyve always sided overwhelmingly against us any day now theyre going to wake up and leave the democrat plantation? Sure sounds like.
Blacks have been consistently non-monolithic to the tune of 8-10% for decades now. But I am sure that will change. MAGA, baby!
“ The Ultra-Orthodox are exempt from military service.”
They are exempt, when in yeshiva—and some spend their whole lives there. But more importantly, as I remember, they were allowed to enlist in the IDF by rabbinical decision some time ago. The importance is that in a generation or so, the Hasidic will be the *majority* population in Israel. Israel, however you think it now, will be a greater threat when these extreme folk are in charge and have military power as well as political power.
People seem to have forgotten that Hamas was a creation of the mossad, put in place to split the people from Hezbollah. Netanyahu has got his war, the corruption charges go away, Israel now has its 9/11.
Imagine still believing that white people in North American can reestablish national self-determination without similar applications of violence against their enemies.
That’s why we pay attention to how the Czechoslovaks and Poles operated at the end of communism and shun the violent revolt types–they’re probably agents provocateurs anyway.
Your bottom line is, big winner, the New World Order, big loser, the Old “Rules-Based” Order. By country, the big winners are Russia, Iran; winners are China, Saudi Arabia. The big losers are Ukraine, USA; loser is Israel. The calamity for the USA hopefully hastens the renewal you speak of.
I don’t have a dog in the fight but I wonder if there will be a Jewish equivalent of a “sino Soviet split”. Maybe you could call it a “tel Aviv new York split”.
Israel has a different selection bias in the type of Jews who live there. Maybe it’s not as pronounced as I think but I wonder if the secular liberal American Jews see Israel as a lost cause.
As long as the AINO jew doesn’t have to do anything more strenuous than virtue signal on social media and send fedbucks, I dunno why they would split
Back in the 1980s and 1990s I was a young Reagan neocon. I read National Review and I sided with Israel. How could I not? Yasser Arafat was a lunatic and a caricature of an Arab terrorist. The Israelis seemed sane by comparison. It was sort of like siding with the cops against the Black Panthers and Angela Davis. I still dislike the Palestinians, I think they are barely one step above Negroes on the evolutionary ladder. I don’t condone rape and hostage taking and suicide bombers and ululating like animals in the streets. But this one is totally on… Read more »
Great comment. I’m rooting for injuries, and here’s to hoping the “elite clique of imperialists” eventually suffer a few and I live long enough to see it happen. Also, moronic Scofield Bible buffoons are ignorantly fueling their own oppression, and I am laughing at reports of some of them getting caught in the crossfire. In NYC–the (soon-to-be former due to demographics) Big Tel Aviv, pro-Palestinian crowds are cheering the carnage, some undulating. There’s some karma in my lifetime. There are absolutely no sympathetic parties in this crapfest and I could care less beyond the amusement.
Believe me, I get the “I couldn’t care less” position. The problem is they are going to drag the rest of us along with them because we are run and owned by Zionists. Our choices for office are Israeli Supporters vs. Supporters of Israel. And too many of our fellow countrymen think supporting Israel is some sort of religious mandate.
Here’s a video of Arab vs. Jew demonstrations in Times Square. The Jews are prominently waving a Gay Pride flag with a Star of David on it.
GloboHomoZio is real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rck4lCt_Q78
Xman: I enthusiastically endorse every word.
Gods chosen people are those who choose Jesus Christ only. Most Jews are antichrist and racist pagans who teach for doctrines the commandments of men instead of those of God. To demystify the Jews you have to accept the truth and that is that Jesus is the son of God from outer space and that he meant what he said in John 8:44. Otherwise he would be a Jew and be condemned by John 8:44 and the whole bible would be a load of Hebrew nonsense with no authority what so ever. Then the joke would be on humanity and… Read more »
Interesting that neither the stock nor the bond market seems to rattled by this. Even oil is only up by a little.
Maybe the world really is tired of the never-ending wars in the Middle East and is just moving on. I don’t know.
War is good business. Lot of money to be made off of it.
Perhaps. But the market sure didn’t respond favorably to Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine. Frankly, I was expecting a bloodbath on Wall Street today, and it didn’t materialize.
What… Wall Street didn’t take Indigenous Peoples’ Day off? How insensitive of those racist colonizers…
It’s also inflationary at just the time that the Fed has raised rates in a way that’s never been seen before to slow inflation.
Iran still exports a fair amount of oil. Basically, the market is saying that this conflict doesn’t spillover into a big attack on Iran, or, at least, that Iranian oil will continue to flow.
Maybe there is a belief that Israel and world Jewry are invincible and this whole silly affair in Gaza will go away after Israel exterminates the Palestinians and their allies once and for all. The issue of genocide will be swept under the rug because Jews are deemed to be the master race and divine gods on earth just like Menachem Begin is reputed to have claimed in a speech in the Knesset long ago.
Conveniently, a couple weeks ago: U.S. allows Israelis visa-free entry. One could simply hand the Palestinians a passport and a ticket and a good bye.
Noam Chomsky does that bit where the Israelis are put upon by the United States as an output. Maybe, but some support is needed for that claim. It seems more the reverse, that Israel is a nuclear armed gangster-bankster safe zone, propped up by duped Americans.
Propaganda people say the Gazans invaded Israel. Isn’t it more accurate to say they broke out from Gaza?
I’ve long suspected Chomsky is a Mossad asset.
Now that you mentioned it, that does make a lot of sense. Wikipedia has, and may still, mention that the OSS/CIA was heavily Jewish. Frankfurt-School Commiejew Marcuse landed into a comfortable home in the OSS/CIA, and then on into academia. Ones gott to wonder about Marcuse’s Marxist pupils.
And now, Chomsky, yet another thing to look up and into.
I think this is the beginning of a new trend. If the American military is now seen more and more as a paper tiger, then this goes doubly so for the militaries of America’s proxy states. The myth of the hypercompetent IDF and the hypercompetent Mossad was just dealt a blow from which it will never recover. Without the backing of Western money, Western weapons, and most importantly Western intelligence services, Israel was and is nothing, and now that the source of its strength has ebbed, there is little standing between Israel and annihilation. Now here’s an intriguing question. What… Read more »
Calm down, sonny.
Agree on Korean powwow. It seems Russia and Iran share the “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee” diplomatic ethos. Of course Israel is a past master at modeling this style. After initially being irritated by it this time I realized the false-flag theory contingent is not incompatible with own-goal theory. After all with 9/11 at home we had Avengers Assemble avant la lettre, all narrative and grand designs to the expense of any and all practical concerns— Why would Tel Aviv be any different? That “Living in M.E. makes you a realist” line of bull turns out to… Read more »
I frankly couldn’t care less about this flare up. I only hope one day we can be free of them and their influence on the US. WHY should any American care about some non-state actor attacking Israel? Why do we have to suffer wall to wall coverage of it? All of these Zionists should just move to Israel. Their ethnostate needs them.
I can’t follow this stuff closely, but I am concerned the “solution” will be moving a million or so people who Israel no longer wants in close proximity with them here. We definitely need to watch out for that. Hopefully the neocons hate them so much for attacking Israel they won’t accept that solution.
Hamas is looking for a big body count in Gaza. The bigger the better (they will all go instantly to the arms of Allah anyway as this is war). A completely disproportionate response. Ideally aided by the U.S. The death figures need to be at least five digits. Cameras will be everywhere recording it. Pieces of toddlers, etc. Then the Arab word will say “was that really necessary?” Israel can only target civilians in that big rat warren and call them terrorists anyway. Israel will say that they killed 10k+ terrorists, whatever the figure will be. In the U.S. the… Read more »
I mean you can get all fancy quoting Merchant of Venice, but the more relatable allegory of Jewish spite would be George Costanza.
Ploppy, do you have an example of George’s spite in mind? Ethnic conflicts aside, I always enjoyed Seinfeld quite a bit and would enjoy revisiting it.
As I recall, George was presented as Italian, which is a common pretense. Ask the Fonz about that.
Larry David was quoted as saying George’s mother couldn’t possibly be anything other than Jewish. As far as spite, there’s the jerk store episode, poisoning his boss when he didnt’ let him use his private bathroom, following someone for 100 miles because he thought he got flipped the bird, and the scholarship kid that wanted to be an urban planner instead of just an architect (the Van Buren boys episode). Those are the ones that spring to mind.
Considering how good Israeli intelligence has been, it’s not believable that Mossad didn’t know this attack was coming, and may have actually instigated it with the attack on the Al-Aqsa mosque, a Muslim sacred site…It’s helped Bibi, who now vows to wipe out the Palestinians, but the question is whether it won’t backfire in a big way…Iran has warned the US not to get militarily involved, and Iran is no paper tiger in its own sandbox….
An attack on the mosque would be just the provocation to justify an attack on Israel. The last straw if you like.
There are always provocations when it comes to wars and those provocations are always denied by the guilty parties who declare war on the victims of those provocations.
It is an old tactic repeated often in history.
“ WHY should any American care about some non-state actor attacking Israel? ”
Well, because—unlike in the 30’s—the Israeli’s may well become refugees and therefore be allowed resident status in the USA. What would be the effect of doubling or tripling the present population? Not sure, but I doubt it will be positive.
We might acquire some more of the ashkenazi leftists, but there’s only way the haredis/mizrahis are leaving their promised land
Invest in South Florida condos.
I know you don’t care about it, but the people controlling your country care about it. Thus, you will be made to care about it whether you care to or not.
One feels for the existential angst that must be the schizophrenic lot of Victoria Nuland and other Patriotic dual-citizens : Ukraine or Israel ?
Where should the US tax dollars flow?
What’s a Kazhar-Yiddistani to do?
What’s a Kazhar-Yiddistani to do?
Move to Israel, stay there, don’t leave for any reason and await the displeasure of the real God..
Absolutely spectacular, Z. Great job.
Imagine a scenario in which both China and Russia are pushing for a regional peace conference, but Washington and Israel are pushing for war with Iran, but neither has the means to do it.
If peace talks could bring a cease fire, it would only benefit IsraelUSA. Give it time to restock, and since when has IsraelUSA ever abided by a “peace agreement”?
Exactly, it’d be Minsk I & II all over again. Anything that involves the West’s word or guarantees is now irreparably damaged goods.
Zman nailed how the U.S. negotiates: “Decades of looting and grifting have left the empire unable to follow through on its threats. As a result, the world is becoming less afraid of Washington’s bluster and bullying.”
Threats, bluster and bullying. That about covers it. Sincere negotiations to avoid war hasn’t occurred to the creeps in the US government since I don’t know when.
War is the worst most wasteful thing imaginable, but the elites think it’s worth toying with.
Well, certain groupings make major bank on armament sales, so there’s that. But there are also major groupings who were planning on making major bank off of the Ukraine conflict by acquiring tracts of prime agricultural land for a song, and/or “reconstruction”, but I think that they may never get that chance, seeing how things are going. As Wild Geese is fond of saying, “You just love to see it”. As to the Middle East, already rhe conflict is spreading, with the Zionist Entity bombing in Southern Lebanon after some exchanges with Hizbollah. Too much bombing on Gaza with resultant… Read more »
Since never, and that will prevent such an agreement without physical measures to protect the Palestinians…
I was checking through some Israeli news sources and most were surprisingly candid about Israel’s border security lapses over the last year. The Jew enthusiasts are, as per their habitual inclinations, tying themselves into pretzels explaining this as an Israeli false flag. I guess. I’m not really convinced with Z’s take on this either; which is just another variation of the Jew enthusiasts’ interpretation. It’s not like the Palestinians don’t observe and notice trends in border security measures. After all they are responsible for most of the incursions. Nah, the Israeli’s got caught with their pants down and got bummed… Read more »
My take is that sloth is the primary cause.
Sloth is another word for boredom. Humans can only keep up vigilance in the face of no active threat for so long. Leaving the current Israeli conflict aside, does anyone notice such lax behavior in the USA as compared to the decade after 9/11? Of course, we see such reports—if looked for—quite frequently. That’s one of the reasons why rogue States like North Korean are of such concern—not that they’ll start a nuke war against South Korea, or even invade, but that they’ll transfer such nuke devices to terrorists who’ll smuggle them into the USA. Here-to-fore such concern was also… Read more »
Iran, if it is behind the most recent flare-up in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, is waging a proxy war with Israel. It is unlikely to end well for the Palestinians. But Iran will not be in a position to dictate terms. It’s more of a spoiler conflict to put off Saudi recognition of Israel in exchange for U.S. assistance in the nuclearization of that country. Others can play that game. If Russia were to more actively involve itself in Iran’s peaceful nuclear program, and Tel Aviv were threatened, a path to peace might quickly be found in Ukraine. At present, Russia… Read more »
“ If Russia were to more actively involve itself in Iran’s peaceful nuclear program, …” You forget, Russia a while back *offered* to supply Iran with all it’s processed uranium needs, thereby eliminating in house uranium processing by Iran. Russia would assure ample supply of uranium purified for energy generation rather that more highly processed bomb making stuff which Iran was suspected of producing on the side. Not sure if Iran was willing, but am sure the US rebuffed this proposal out of hand so it never got to the bargaining table. Russia was at that time more willing to… Read more »
Russia has been acting in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty. The U.S. opposes such legal use of nuclear power by Iran because Israel thinks they might use it to develop nuclear weapons the way Israel did. At the same time the U.S. is cynically prepared to help Saudi Arabia with such an illegal nuclear program in exchange for that country’s open support for Israel. If Russia were to play the same game, Israel could find itself in a difficult situation. An example of the U.S. talking up “democracy” and “the rules based order” while doing the opposite.
“might use it to develop nuclear weapons the way Israel did. ”
Except Israel did not develop it. Israel stole it. From the US.
Two different things: fissionable material and know-how. Jewish scientists had been involved in U.S. nuclear research and development since the Manhattan Project. This know-how made its way to the Soviet Union and presumably Israel. The peaceful nuclear reactor Israel built with the help of France provided the enriched material they needed to construct atomic bombs. Israel wants to keep this capacity out of Iranian hands, since the bomb-making know-how is pretty widely known by now.
Another consequence of these events will be the resurgence of Sunni extremist movements that had largely been contained. Saudi, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt and the gulf states will come under increasing pressure to support the Palestinians, and some governments may fall. Israel eventually may find itself facing an general Arab coalition backed by Iran, Russia and China. Unlike in previous conflicts, the recent Saudi-Iran rapprochement means that the Israelis will not be able to exploit the Sunni-Shia Muslim schism as they have in the past. The position of Turkey and Pakistan will also be interesting. Unfortunately there is a grim and… Read more »
Good post. However, the DR has no “we” in this turkey shoot. The only DR position that makes any sense is to support whatever outcome most harms the GAE.
Thanks for the correction. Occasionally I lapse into (late) Boomer thinking. Old habits (and sometimes old men) die hard.
“We, however, do have a choice. We should stay out of it, but we probably won’t.” “We” are staying out of it as no one in my orbit is volunteering to murder arabs for Israel. If you’re using the anachronistic grammatical tick of identifying yourself and the rest of us with the US regime… “we” in that sense from the secretary of state (and nearest thing to an actual POTUS we have) on down through the shot calling roles in government/corporate complex and media establishment are basically just jews. That misnamed “we” are not out of it and cannot and… Read more »
Lighten up, Francis. It was just a figure of speech.
The problem being that our bases in the region would become targets, and Israel does not have any moral high ground available after its brutal treatment of the Palestinians and attacks on muslim holy sites…
Re: “The old liberal ruling class stopped having children, while the ultra-orthodox continue to breed like rabbits.”
Breed like rabbis, I think you meant.
Shalom, salaam, people!
There seems to be a strong relation between closed communities and high child-birth rates. A good question is whether this is because they are insulated from modernity or whether their very nature is conducive to high fertility. The only closed communities that have low birth rates are ones that explicitly condemn reproduction, like the shakers.
There’s a lot going on there, kinda like “arranged marriages in all but name” (or, maybe in name too). The kids are brought up with a clear idea of who they and their people are and are constantly interacting with those of the opposite sex who were raised the same way. Restated, leaving the future propagation of one’s people up to dumb luck has proven to be a stupid strategy.
A strong desire to reproduce is likely the default attitude that gets crushed by interaction with clownworld. They tend to insulate themselves from all the propaganda and pressures to absorb the cultural zeitgeist. This is also why then tend to keep their children far away from TV, internet, modern kid’s books and most of all, public schools. Plus, everyone they interact with have the same values. That’s why closed communities work very well where closed “families” do not. If not isolated from the larger culture, even homeschooling isn’t enough. The Amish accomplish all this through their shunning of electricity. No… Read more »
And I thought I had all those kids (5) because I like women, sex, and babies. Now I learn it was because I was avoiding Clownworld.
Always thought the antipathy towards Indians for their arranged marriages was odd. In reality, it’s one of the few things they do right. One could argue they are too strict with not enough flexibility to young people, but the principle of parents in a community coming together and finding good matches is a clear positive.
Samuel Huntington, quoting I-forget-whom (German sociologist guy), called it “the Romeo-and-Juliet revolution.” Only subcons seem to remember now what happened to R & J in the actual story.
Max Weber?…..
Chet: I don’t think it’s merely antipathy at arranged marriages – as you note, having parental involvement/approval of a ‘match’ was the historic norm, even in the West, for centuries. While not quite as inbred as their Pakistani neighbors, the Indians are still very careful to ensure marriages not merely within caste, but within sub-jati. Often this is further narrowed by profession and geographical region. My geneological research over the past 5-8 years has caused us to be contacted by numerous 6th cousins of my husband. The shared ancestor is generally from the 1700s. These people are utter strangers to… Read more »
I believe ZMan has pointed out that tribal societies flourish where trust is low. We are heading that way fast.
The ultra-orthodox Hasidic community in Israel is an interesting phenomena. They will be the political/population majority within 1-2 generations. Prior to somewhat recent events, they were exempt from military service, but a decade or so ago, the rabbi’s said they may take up arms in national service, i.e., IDF. That would seem to promise both political and military power being in the control of the most zionistic, pro-Israel faction who hate all non-Jews and especially secular Jews. (Imagine how Iran changed with the fall of the secular government in the late 70’s.)
The fact that such communities generally live in the country is also important…Cities are reproductive shredders, with extremely low birth rates…
All that can be said with certainty is that if L Graham said it – it’s fatuous, wrong, and a lie.
You missed one
fatuous, wrong, dangerous and a lie.
It speaks to the dysfunction of the GAE braintrust, and the fantasy world they live in, that they are still beating the war drum re: Iran years after their forces no longer surround it. If they were going to do it, then was the time, not now.
Jihadis attacking a rave is definitely some kind of metaphor for the decline of the west. “At Dawn We Twerked”
The rave should be a minor detail but it is a metaphor for the entire clown show.
As I understand it, this was a “Rave for Peace”. The participants are not fans of the hardcore zionists, and vice versa. But, given the dynamics of the situation, one might see how the Palestinian jihadis might view this “Rave for Peace” as just a bunch of liberal Jews virtue signaling, like the words from Nine Inch Nails song Head Like a Hole, “…let’s go dancing on the backs of the bruised…”
I’ve been feeling that song and its lyrics of late, images of the faces of those who want to see us dead, or at minimum compliant with their plans flashing before my mind; Gates, Soros, Nuland, Blinken, the list goes on and on…
Find it wherever you get your online music from, and similarly with the lyrics.
I’m ignorant of these things called “raves.” And I bask in my ignorance.
Well, a rave here (USA), initially started as an outdoor concert-like party where young folks gathered to listen to music, drink, dance, and do drugs. The organizers sold tickets and refreshments to make a profit. The women dressed like they would on Halloween—that is to say, sluts. And a good time was had by all. They are still popular today, except they don’t use the name “rave”. Where I was at that time we had a regular venue a few miles up the road most Saturday nights. Was a pain to drive along the highway as the Sheriff’s patrol was… Read more »
Yeah, I knew there was something back in the first half of the 60s called “rave ups” that were some sort of party. Must’ve been a mod thing. But that was a very long time ago, and I’m a bit surprise that hoary term has made a comeback.
The term was in use at least into the 90’s here. The rave drug of choice was called “ecstasy” and at that time was legal in Europe, so large amounts easily found their way here. Sammy “The Bull” Gravano and his son were trafficking it out of Phx. Sammy got caught and did a stint (8 years?) in the hard max pen in CO. The new “raves” are now called “festivals” and the girls still dress like sluts, except with less taste—if that’s possible. Body painting is big. One effect of ecstasy was a dryness of the mouth and a… Read more »
It’s possible there were children of VIPs at that rave. It’s also possible Hamas (or their backers) had enough intel to justify making that rave a focal point of the initial raids with the goal of taking VIP kids hostage.
That’s a good point, Geese.
Where to begin? 1. The official Regime story is almost certainly false. We still have no idea of exactly what happened and we may never. 2. There are 2 million people living in Gaza. If the Israelis flatten the place, where are they all going to go? Are the Israelis prepared to kill thousands livestreamed on Telegram? (I suppose they will disable the Internet). And if the Palests. leave Gaza and go to Egypt, are things just going to go to hell in a handbasket in Egypt? There are 113 million people in Egypt now. Average age is 24. 3.… Read more »
I suspect Israel intends to relocate the Gazans into the West, but that will not go over well in the neighborhood. Egypt is too close for comfort for the relocation zone. The West, of course, needs neither more Jews nor Arabs, thank you.
Sinai desert is empty AF. They can send them on their own little “Exodus” out there, Moses style! We will see if they can reach Egypt in less than 40 years. 😛
I feel like ancient Hebrews do not have a great direction sense, 40 years to cross a piece of land that is 700km wide seems a bit… confused.
Like I said before, have NO dog in this fight so long as they aren’t sending them to us.
The number 40 is a symbolic number to them; 40 days and 40 nights of rain, etc. So the 40 years thing may fit within that useage.
I wonder if the term “40 dawg” was a Jewish marketing ploy…
“The outside world can take nothing from you and cannot unhinge you, as long as you do not allow yourself to be disturbed. The events of your time remain impotent before you, as long as you refuse to take part in them, and the madness of of the epoch does not constitute a real danger, as long as you conserve yourself a purity of spirit.”
– Stefan Zweig commenting on Michel Montaigne
That works up until the point they kick down your door and haul you off to the Gulag.
Unfortunately, Trotsky was correct: you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
Precisely. It is meet to tune out of such horrors as the popular culture, but unawareness of physical reality in the form of government guns and grenades is a recipe for the grave.
Rage on about the latest thing you can’t change if it makes you happy.
Personally, I think it’s brought the world to mass insanity.
The raving is merely another occasion to signal adherence to the “latest thing”, and to retain membership in good standing in The Hive.
First, serious events are accelerating. That should be obvious, but normie can quash that anxiety with another six pack. Second, desperation within the GAE is pushing stupidity into hyperdrive. Putin just gave a speech warning the West about using tactical nukes in a false flag OP. Clearly their intel believes this threat to be very real. Third, the gambit in Israel is another dry run exercise, much like COVID. Pit the bottom of the social pyramid against each other in mortal combat so that no one thinks about addressing the root of the problem. When food starts getting scarce, the… Read more »
I attended a house service with an evangelical pastor a couple weeks ago (he’s a good pastor and the service is at our neighbor’s, also good people, but I am not an evangelical Christian) and he started in on prophesy and the end times, and mentioned that Jews need to rebuild the temple before Christ returns. I kinda rolled my eyes. Evangelicals say this kind of stuff a lot. They also tend to think that the end times are near. But after the events of the past weekend, maybe he’s onto something…
The last time they tried to rebuild it with Julian the Apostate, it didn’t go so well.
4th century A.D.: Julian the Apostate; 21st century A.D.: Joe the Antichrist
I suppose Joe could be the AntiChrist, but that would be quite anti climactic. I would think Satan can do better.
Gawd, where to start? To repeat what I noted yesterday, a plague on both their houses. Not my people, not my problem. Let them fight it out, but without one drop of White American blood. Which leads to one noting how so many ‘murkans’ have been wrapping themselves in flags and pledging to fight. Of course, the flag is Israel’s and the military they propose joining is the IDF. Supporting ‘their’ people – fair enough. But for the love of all that’s holy, let’s stop with the ‘murkan’ facade. Just like the “German” tattoo artist who was killed these are… Read more »
Spot on about fuel prices/shortages. As for the Semitic tribes duking it out, that has happened here. There have been Muslims and Jews (and their ignorant camp followers) come to blows in Florida and California, and I’m certain Michigan as well although that last is just a guess on my part. Invade the world, invite the world, become the Third World. As Kosher as the present regime is, though, it will have a hard time keeping its foot soldiers in line on support for Israel, which many of them despise. This may be an instance where the installation of Biden… Read more »
My guess is, like Ukraine, it’s a dud. Contingency plans, many ad hoc. Global realignment continues apace.
3g4me, Nailed it madame. Always bring it back around to the sphere of influence vs. concern. Family, Church, neighbors, town , county etc… in a spiral outward to the limits of your influence. Only awareness past that point for Intel purposes. The greater world will be what it will be. On a practical side, I’ve put away some diesel even though none of my equipment burns it. Neighbors and the local equipment rental place have bigger diesel equipment like skid-steers that you may need to borrow for road repairs or tilling, and if fuel is interrupted or skyrockets it isn’t… Read more »
Penitent Man: Thank you, Sir. We don’t have anything that requires diesel as yet, but we do need non-ethanol gas for the zero turn, side by side, etc. Uncomfortable storing fuel in summer temps but saw this movable tank in YT video from guy in Florida, and husband said to get it. Trusting that Pri-G and rotating will keep it usable. Neighbor has a small tractor but we have no need as yet. I like what I’ve seen of the e-trikes, but they aren’t in the budget at present and wouldn’t be safe (too slow) on our local two-lane road… Read more »
Regardless, this attack could not come at a better time for the Israeli government
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Interesting that.
Of course it wouldn’t be the most surprising thing that a domestic security service knew about some catastrophic event, but then did nothing to interfere with it because there were only “upsides” in letting it go forward.
What worries me, #99:
What happens if we send more aid to Israel? This conversation may leak out:
“Now hang on now, Big Guy, don’t you know how many terrorist cells we have already prepositioned in your country?”
“My country? Come on man, I’m a globalists! Transnationalist. Don’t be so narrow minded!”
Every road my mind went down thinking about this found it all too convenient for Israel. It is hard to see how they lose, aside from their people who have been killed or kidnapped. But states, don’t care about such things. It is like when America was attacked on our soil and it happened to be the event that the PNAC signatories had hoped for a few years before. This event is also helpful on the US vassal front as Musk and the momentum of those goings on will be crushed in order to present solidarity. Another red pill Musk… Read more »
The cognitive dissonance required to keep a single one about a foreign dust-up while your own country is under active invasion is off the charts. A relatively positive thing is there are now quite a few people who think like us on this state of affairs.
And, yes, Happy Columbus Day! That fine event also corresponded with the Reconquista. It can and will be done again.
Columbus day is the 12th. This is observed even though I think people call it indigenous peoples day or something stupid like that now because, you know, it was bad that we stopped them from ripping the hearts out of living victims and cannibalism.
Normiecontard is playing their typical role all over the internet. For them, the same ethnic group that is hell bent on western demographic destruction is now the world’s most oppressed underdog, in their eyes, and we must stand with Isrul. It’s predictable but still tiresome.
It is like watching an old black and white movie with aged actors and actresses and Tears for Fears featured on the soundtrack, no? Normiecon’s reaction is quaint, and most of the public no longer even cares one way or another.
The frustraing aspect is how last week griller cons basically knew everything the regime (media) says is a lie but TODAY they’ll stand foursquare behind the regime in its account of and interpretation of events AND EVEN the actions it demands. Americans (read: whites) are such damnably nice people that they simple seem incapable of keeping their enemies named in their head for over a day. Yesterday you beat me half to death, spit on my body, laughed and carried off my daughter… today you invite me to help you move furniture and I simply cannot resist the urge to… Read more »
> Normiecontard is playing their typical role all over the internet.
My Twitter feed is insufferable right now. Sean Davis, Seth Dillon, Miranda Devine, Chaya Raichik, people whose posts I usually enjoy, all frothing at the mouth for mass killing, saying all sorts of dumb stuff to try to convince people that this mess is our problem.
” It is just that the West is in decline and that means these outposts will be abandoned or overrun as part of the process of decline. If Israel is to survive it means becoming something other than an outpost of the West. If the West is to survive, it means abandoning these outposts and setting about the task of renewal.” The Reconquista II Boogaloo after the fall of the present-day Kingdom of Jerusalem, Tranny Bagel Version, will be where the real action is. The question is whether the United States still will be able to project force into its… Read more »
“The Kingdom of Jerusalem, Tranny Version”
Does anyone else remember those recent tv ads from the Israeli Tourism Board? The ones featuring a pair of spokesbots barely identifiable as either sex? Lots of rainbow colors? Apparently someone thinks showcasing trannies is good for selling hotel rooms in Jerusalem.
The differences between the chosen and us in sexuality illustrates that different races have different collective personalities.
The chosen have always been more sexuality perverse than us, from our perspective. Of course, they see us as repressed, like Freud did. We’re just different.
The chosen pioneered the first tranny surgery in Weimar Germany. They have much less sexual dimorphism that we do. We’re just different.
Much of the social changes since WW2 are the chosen changing our collective morality to make our country more comfortable for them.
I understand Israel is set to change its national anthem to “O Trannybaum”…
My governor, Neocon Ron DeSantis, proudly announced said that Florida stands with Israel.
He had so much promise. But I dislike him more every day. Andrew Gillum should have beaten him. I’d rather have my governors addicted to meth and naked men than Israel.
You would have ended up with someone addicted to meth, naked men, AND brown-nosing Israel.
True….but Israel’s PR prefers sober doofuses like DeSantis.
Not only brown-nosing Israel, but doing it with a brown nose!
Dear, oh dear, oh dear…
Gillum would support Israel just as much and would have locked you in your house for 18 months during Covid. On a local level it makes sense to support these people even though they hold kook positions like this.
Lesser of two evils really does have its merits sometimes
Those prone to gloat over what’s going on may now perceive what many have perceived long ago. Israel is living on borrowed time and the world, for various reasons, will never long let the Jews live in peace. The lucky ones get to assimilate and vanish into their larger cultures. But this view underestimates the other ide of the coin. Israelis know this, at least the leadership does. Israel and its assets outside Israel possess the nuclear, chemical and biological means to ensure that the next holocaust will be the last. It’s not just Palestinians and their immediate allies who… Read more »
Israel will probably be better off making deals with Russia and China in the long run. The problem with their deal with Washington and the West is that it comes with the endless moralizing to the rest of the region. If Israel is no longer viewed as a soapbox on which Washington can preach to the Arab world, Israel may be able to find a peace with the Arab world.
Cue Judy Garland singing “Somewhere Over the Rainbow.”
Z said: “If Israel is to survive it means becoming something other than an outpost of the West.”
It will shock the “I stand with Israel” crowd how quickly and completely they will switch their allegiances to China and Russia if those countries take the whip hand in the Middle East. Not sure about the terms Russia and China would accept them on though.
I imagine China and Russia will have Israel to use its existent Fifth Column in the West to do dirty work for them; it already has for China at times (they have sold Beijing Naval technology stolen from the US) and likely has assisted Russia as well.
(same happened with Jewish spies for the old Soviet Union, I meant to add)
If Russia and China can supply Israel with weapons, and the GAE no longer can…
Our Greatest Ally is not about to go down with the Good Ship AINO.
Not too long ago I was questioning a friend who was wearing the dual/flag lapel pin. Now this friend is always going on about his real homeland and all they are achieving … … It was a bit audacious on my part, but I wanted to know how the mind works. When pressed on the question of if he cares more for America or Israel he said both. Thinking of a new tack, I asked him how it would work out for Israel if America continues to decay. He said, “By then we’ll be much stronger, much more powerful and… Read more »
We have the best friends, don’t we folks.
The idea that a supposedly vulgar people (before any lurkers downvote, consider Larry David’s work) would pick up moralizing from the West is intriguing. What chimera might that produce? Clown World, maybe?
It’s been a very toxic relationship.
A vulgar moralizing culture is pretty much what we have now. Look at that Scooby Doo remake with the Indian girl from The Office, they just work the vulgarity around all of their social justice taboos.
imbroglio: ” . . . the world, for various reasons, will never long let the Jews live in peace.”
What in the hell are you smoking?
Apparently something with 109 strength.
Ramesses II did nothing wrong.
And he came out with a mighty fine condom!
Israel is largely a creation of the ‘British’ Empire, one of the remnants of which the US graciously assumed when it became GAE.
There sits the Pale of Settlement, emptied, theoretically a future independent Western Ukraine. Can’t shake the thought.
Point being, the Samson Option isn’t foregone.
Looks like the rope a dope fights that the U.S. has been suckered into is finally showing signs of the coming ultimate collapse. Uncle Sam is arm weary and almost spent in resources. Tko to follow soon.
Preparing for lots of little Israeli flags in public soon. This is, as we all know, how Ukraine gets removed from the screen so the monkeys have something new to yell at each other about.
That won’t be as prevalent unless the NPC’s can be convinced Hamas is helping Trump’s election bid.
Ha Ha, great point. The Iranians are helping Trump cheat. That is the last straw. We go to war!!!
Already saw my first Star of David flag in front of a local house in a not very Jewish neighborhood. Probably had a Ukrainian flag there 18 months ago.
On the top of the breitbart homepage was your “free” US/Israeli flag lapel pin. I’m sure all the congressional/governmental asswipes are sporting them today and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Don’t forget the Holocaust movie marathon coming up this week.
I can’t speak for you lot, but I for one am burning my way through the entire Woody Allen filmography.
I can’t remember Allen focusing on the “hol0c@ust” much, but I’ve always found this scene from Annie Hall revealing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8TSvMx2wPI
(When I first saw this movie as a young guy, I had no idea about ethnic conflicts in our country. I literally could not understand what was being communicated.)
No. To be fair, I don’t recall too much Shoahbusiness with Allen either although there was some Jew victimology in Love and Death, which was set in Napoleonic Russia.
True, but some of his stuff was pretty funny. The line about death being “like the chicken at wherever’s but worse” still cracks me up.
The diptych screen split at the end makes a nice pairing with Cuddihy’s Ordeal of Civility.
I will be watching the old movie “The Car” with James Brolin, and after that, “Maximum Overdrive”.
I just hope both sides have a fun time.
put the palis from gaza in ukraine.
Or eastern Germany.
Because of the Holocaust, you know…
Put them in the Hamptons.
How about palestinians go to… their actual homes and land in palestine and ashkenazis go back to wandering about peddling junk door to door wherever they can manage to avoid being noticeably disruptive.
They’re just worse gypsies who have been allowed other people’s houses and since developed ideas far above their natural station. They sorely need be disabused of these ideas.
I hear it’s nice in St Helena.
And Mt. St. Helens…
I have to say that this hollowing out of the GAE has been one of the most positive events of my lifetime. I can’t conceive of anything better than seeing Iran dictating peace terms to an emaciated Israel. That Semitic shitshow is not going to end well.
That won’t happen. Israel will nuke Iran, and probably Europe, before that happens.
Do their nukes still work as well as their border security?
No doubt. But they don’t have enough to annihilate Europe. France, Russia, and Britain would obliterate Israel in response.
Not so sure about Britain. Their ruling class would probably nuke themselves if Israel asked, assuming they could figure out a way to kill only White people.