The Israel Problem

The founding of Israel seventy-five years ago brought with it a problem that has never been resolved, one that is at the heart of the current troubles. In fact, times of trouble operate as a reprieve from the hard work of ignoring that central issue. Israeli leaders can stimulate Western leaders into worrying about what Israel means to them, rather than what it is. The current war in Gaza lets the American Right forget its troubles and cheer blindly for its favorite country.

That central problem at the heart of it all is the definition of Israel itself. The “Jewish state” is a label used by Israelis, especially those on the Zionist side, and one that should raise some question. No one uses the term “Irish state” or the “German state” when describing those countries. No one would dare call Germany the home of the German people, but Western commentators disposed to Israel comfortably say that Israel is the home of the Jewish people.

Israel is by design, an ethnostate. It is the only self-declared and self-defined ethnostate in the modern world. From the very beginning, the point of Israel was to be the homeland of ethnic Jews. This is the central problem for Israel. To be a citizen of an ethnostate requires one to be accepted into as a member of that ethnicity. You cannot just one day decide to be a Jew and emigrate to Israel. Unlike Western countries, Israel is not an idea. It is a genetic threshold.

This is the problem Israel faced on day one. At its founding, the newly minted Israelites found themselves with lots of non-Jews in their lands. Those non-Jews could never be citizens, as that would violate the logic of the ethnostate. Those non-Jews were not going to voluntarily evacuate for new lands, so it meant Israel had a population of aliens in its midst that could never be assimilated. Like a pebble in your shoe, this non-Jewish population would be an irritant to the Jewish state.

Israel could extend most of the rights and privileges of citizenship to this non-Jewish population in an effort to pacify them, but they could never extend all of the rights and privileges to them. The non-Jews are not citizens and can never be citizens, so therefore they must always be suspect. In any two-tiered status system one class must be superior and the other inferior and this must lead to conflict. From the start, Israel was saddled with a hostile alien population.

Of course, the logic of the ethnostate demands that Israel do what it must to expel this non-Jewish population from its midst. Again, the whole point of the ethnostate is to create a homeland exclusive to your people. The reason Israel exists is to clear and hold the land of Israel for the Jews and only the Jews. Add in the natural hostility of the dispossessed minority population and conflict was inevitable. By definition, Jews can never be at peace with the minority population.

If that minority population were Mongols or Bantus, people with no natural connection to anyone in the region, this would have been an easily solved problem. Obviously, that was never the case, so this inevitable and necessary conflict with the non-Jewish population has defined Israel’s relationship with the Arab world. If Israel were, as Ben Shapiro is fond of saying, a nation of ideas, this would not be the case, but Israel is an ethnostate which sets it apart from all other nations.

This would be true even if the surrounding nations were ethnostates. The logic of the ethnostate starts with the assumption that the people of the proposed ethnostate are superior to other people. A people cannot demand a land of their own unless they think they deserve it. That can only come if those people, at some level, see themselves as superior to others, at least with regards to their claims for a homeland. Exclusivity begins with the claim of superiority in some critical respect.

Compounding things for Israel is the fact that their definition of a homeland includes territories now currently occupied by others. This has been true from the founding of Israel in 1948. Just look at old maps and it is easy to see. Israel is the only country in the modern era to expand its borders at the expense of its neighbors. It does this because the logic of its existence requires it. It is why the first response to the Hamas attack was the call to expel the people from Gaza.

This is the crux of the “Israel’s right to exist” debate. The Arabs understand the logic of the Israeli ethnostate and what that must mean for them. Israel’s right to exist means her right to expel non-Jews from the lands claimed by Israel. It also means using whatever means necessary against those defending those non-Jews. The non-Jews living in those lands can never agree to those terms. Therefore, they can never accept Israel’s right to exists, at least not as an ethnostate.

This also explains the ruthlessness of Israel’s response to Hamas. The unspoken truth of the Israeli – Gaza relationship is the people in Gaza must go away to that this land can be absorbed into greater Israel. Any resistance to that is viewed as a threat to the very idea of Israel, which warrants a maximum response. From the perspective of the Zionists, genocide of the Palestinians is a proportional response to the terrorist raid perpetrated by Gaza last month.

Obviously, this flies in the face of Western political morality, but money can buy a lot of political blinders. That and there is a strong Christian Zionist subculture in the United States that provides easy cover for the political class. Washington can pretend they are catering to public support for Israel, while cashing checks from the Israel lobby on the condition they never mention the reality of the Israel ethnostate. Meanwhile, Palestinian refugees prepare to emigrate to your town.


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Ace of Base
Ace of Base
11 months ago

Why not look at the map of modern Europe? All of the nation-states in Europe are likewise ethnostates, for all practical purposes. The history of Europe is largely about the formation of the modern nation-state after the fall of Rome and the migration of other peoples (Germans, Slavs, Central Asians). As for ethnic divisions, some countries in Africa still have problems because different groups ended up within post-colonial borders that others drew up without full consideration. Note also that India and Pakistan went through a partition in 1947. China took over Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, and East Turkestan (now Xinjiang).… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
1 year ago

One more time.
Every people have their myths and legends, Jews among them. The issue is that a politically powerful group of them believe it as fact. Given the vicious self entitlement in their myths, this is bad.
What is calamitous is that they demand that the rest of the world go along with their bullshit.

Longstreet
Longstreet
Reply to  Bilejones
11 months ago

I don’t get it. Wouldn’t most dissidents love to have a country filled with nothing but white people, a Christian people, a people who value honesty, hard work, devotion to one’s family, etc., etc., etc. ? And yet, here we are, calling out Jews who want to live around other Jews. Aren’t we making the equivalent cuckservative move of embracing the latest left wing interpretation of morality. People can live with their own people without turning automatically into Hitler. Living among you own people is what the entire world should do.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
1 year ago

Gotta take you to task on this one Z… All of Western Europe, prior to WWII were ethnostates. England, Ireland, Scotland, Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Poland, etc… All ethnoststes. That’s why the term ethnicities exists. I’m German on my mothers side, because her grandparents came from Germany prior to WWI, Italian on my fathers side because my grandfather came to the U.S. in the 30’s. American by birth. My mother has Dutch ancestry on her mothers side that were on the Mayflower. Yet, according to the U.S. govt, I’m Italian – German. These designations are “ethnic, whence “ethnostates.” The origins… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
1 year ago

i imagine this will rub some the wrong way, but if I could wave my magic wand, all the jews in this country would be stripped of their wealth save $10K and given a one way ticket to Israel, never to return upon pain of death. All that confiscated wealth would be used to pay down a portion of the national debt. Then they can actually fight for their “homeland”. It’s none of our business…

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

The “national debt” is either nonsense on a spreadsheet or actual money owed to a list of actual people.

How ’bout instead of impoverishing the citizenry to pay a debt they never agreed to borrow, kill all those people.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

“…pay down the debt”. Really, us them?

Never happen. Any windfall would surely be spent.

Bob Alou
Bob Alou
1 year ago

Dammit! I asked you how many Hellfire missiles are left … and I don’t want to hear about problems with software!

Jacques Labelle
Jacques Labelle
1 year ago

Amen to that. A plague on both their houses.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

The solution to second-class citizens is the jizya.

The Semitic nations “solved” this problem long ago, with a formal institution recognizing second class citizenship.

The jizya is only considered a problem in the Enlightenment system that declares “all are equal before the law.” With jizya and caste, formal inequality is the expected norm, and the society’s restrictures are expected and accepted.

(Note: another thing they copied or stole from us, since caste was a feature of the Aryan empires. One they turned around on us when it was their turn to rule in Akkad; Aryan Eve was underneath Semitic Adam.)

cg2
cg2
1 year ago

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1723378775339966953

Our enemy’s enemy is also our enemy.
Intee\resting times

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  cg2
1 year ago

Yes it is. Why do people have to keep learning that lesson??

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
11 months ago

they keep getting more and more interesting.

Reader
Reader
1 year ago

These people have been nothing but trouble since The West saved there sorry ass’s…
Just like the A-rabs.

Different sides of the same Psychotic Religous Coin.

Ponsonby
Member
1 year ago

The origin of “pogroms” was usually clear EG in the Polish-Cossack War circa 1650 (in and around the area now known as the Ukraine). A major cause was the behavior of the mostly Jewish managers of the vast estates of the absentee Polish nobility. The managers were classic middlemen, charged with extracting revenue in exchange for a fee. Of course they oppressed the peasants and stole from the nobles. There was a revolt with bloody payback. Some call this a “pogrom.” The evolution of this story is also of note. Initial reports based on contemporary Jewish sources reported vast numbers… Read more »

Ponsonby
Member
Reply to  Ponsonby
1 year ago

Apologies that was meant as a reply to.Marko at 12:43pm way below

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
Reply to  Ponsonby
1 year ago

When you add up crypto-Jews, a lot of those “unrealistically high” historical death counts become more believable. That’s the single biggest reason to be skeptical of anyone denying certain historical atrocities, because the intent is to cover for the crypto phenomenon.

pantoufle
pantoufle
1 year ago

My outlook on the Middle East changed for once and all when I read a comparison of Israel to the Crusader kingdoms. The latter lasted about 250 years and was an early colonialist project on the part of the West, expressing a sudden surge of money, ambition, population, etc. Then the West moved on and those colonies withered and fell, one by one. Israel likewise is an expression of 20th century Western and Zionist ambition, colonialism, expansionism, energy, etc. Take your pick. It has been there about 100 years in one form or another. The West is in decline. Draw… Read more »

ronetc
ronetc
1 year ago

I am a Christian who has spent several years off and on in Israel on business. Here is the one big thing to remember: if Jews ruled the world they would not kill you. If the Palestinians and all the other Muslim Brotherhood offshoots ruled the world, they would kill you and your family . . . and dance while doing it.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

if Jews ruled the world they would not kill you

Yes they would. The Talmud they follow instructs them to enslave us and then erase us once we’re no longer useful to them.

They’re all about them and nothing else, they literally outfox _od in their view.

You really should broaden your reading list.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  DaBears
1 year ago

Whatever the truth is, I’m not motivated to find out one way or the other. Both tribes should stay the hell over there. I’m completely fatigued with Muslims and Jews and want them both out of my life.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

Moot. Because each camp insists on association with you and yours.

Your own can be bought off against their own interests.

Jews and Muslims will be a part of YOUR lives unless and until you take direct action.

And you’ll do jack squat that matters.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

Their religion instructs them to kill you if you get in their way:

“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.”

1 Samuel 15:3

Bob Alou
Bob Alou
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

They would kill you in a heartbeat … in the blink of an eye

Avuncular Randall
Avuncular Randall
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

Kind of like the dancing Israelis?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

But Jews do rule the world.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

Agree! Fuck the cucked down voters! “Haters.”

george 1
george 1
Reply to  ronetc
1 year ago

I recall some dancing Jews on 09/11/01.

Just saying.

Crowhouse
Crowhouse
Reply to  ronetc
11 months ago

Hamas attacked Israel because Israel is a murderous and tyrannical apartheid regime who butchers children and makes lives miserable for the Palestinian people. The violence on October 7 was the echo of the violence Israel has been inflicting on Palestinians for generations. Only a fool gets angry at his echo for talking back to him.

Disruptor
Disruptor
1 year ago

Some are motivated by reward; others to avoid punishment. Ending the hell of Jewism enlists only half a glass. Restitution is fully on the table as a motivator. There is the obvious repayment to Germany and satisfaction of Pali genocide debt. That’s a start but there is more work to be done. Post WWII, Britian set up a network of a dozen secrecy jurisdictions. Hidden trusts control and possess tens of trillions of dollars of wealth. These trusts own a big part of the world, meanwhile the rest of the world is up to it’s neck in debt. It’s time… Read more »

pgt beauregard
pgt beauregard
Reply to  Disruptor
1 year ago

upvoted you for “nogoodnicks”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Before reading today’s, I have to support Bibi. Netanyahu is attempting to create a defacto Eretz Ysrael above Persia as a key player in the Belt Road Initiative. Detenté and alliance with the Sunni Donmeh emirs as were the old Caliphates; Cleaning out the Palestinian rat’s nest, hoping to dump that problem into Egypt’s & the Caucasian’s laps, weakening them; Seizing the Gaza-to-Cyprus offshore gas, splitting up Cyprus and Syria to enmesh the Turkish Sultanate; I’ll bet the Caspian Sea and Romanian oil fields come into play (Azerbaijan-Armenia); Great men are rarely also good men. I say the Israeli and… Read more »

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Your last paragraph is why the West (AINO in particular) should stay the h^ll out of this sandbox. Our best minds will not / cannot understand, or solve this Rubik cube (let alone the myriad of our worst minds engaged in the process)..

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

Let’s put aside the World Wars and the hatred of the “big Jews” who (along with others) have pushed globalism, civil rights, vaccines, marxism, feminism, open borders, showbiz, porno etc. A few points: 1) Every country should be an “ethnostate.” That’s the whole reason for a country! There are 50+ Muslim countries. No reason there can’t be 1 Jewish country. And that little Jewish country has like 20% Arab citizens, which is insane. 2) The Jews PAID the Palis money for the territory in Israel. Palis took the money, left, and conspired with Arab neighbors for combined attack. Israel won… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Hamas was created by Israel as a political counter to the Palestinian Authority run, in part, by that Egyptian faggot Arafat.

The Palis took the budget, scrapped the greenhouses, and built rockets and tunnels instead of a Red Sea resort like Eritrea. They are the BLM of the Levant.

Yes, I know Israel keeps creating these ISIS types, with the corrupted West fully on board. They are there to be created. Changing boy-raping Arab niggas is like trying to turn Africans into Walmart shoppers.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

“Pro-white dissidents taking up cause with the the Palis should notice that they are sharing common ground with the most insane and low IQ BLM/Antifa/Blue hair lefties there are.”

So what? My smaller enemy is attacking my bigger enemy. You won’t embarrass me out of seeing this fact.

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Exactly. Let them all kill each other. Same can be said of Ukraine and Russia. Screw em all sideways. Why should we take a side and waste billions and billions for any of em. They both aren’t friends in any meaningful way with America, whether it be 9/11 or the uss liberty.

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

Our policy should be simple: Jews out.

Their property we keep as a downpayment on reparations for crimes committed against white humanity.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“Israel could extend most of the rights and privileges of citizenship to this non-Jewish population in an effort to pacify them” You’re talking only of the Arabs inside Israel itself, and not about the Bantustan of Palestinian territories that Israel keeps nibbling away at. Israeli policy is to ether expel or kill all of these people. The political and military leaders of Israel are stone-cold killers, psychopaths. And this is not some recent phenomenon but goes back to the 1920s, when the Stern and Irgun gangs (which produced many subsequent Israeli prime ministers) began terrorising Palestinians to expel them from… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

I think many Americans resist your “criminal enterprise” interpretation because it hits too close to home regarding our nation’s history of manifest destiny.

This cognitive dissonance dissipates if you let go of the idea of a universal morality that applies to all nations/peoples (and that you implicitly expect all nations to adopt and reciprocate). The alternative is to observe that, in practice, morality only applies within a nation and not between them.

This isn’t to say that a nation should always behave in a cutthroat manner to other nations, but only that you reject universalist claims.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

“I think many Americans resist your “criminal enterprise” interpretation because it hits too close to home regarding our nation’s history of manifest destiny.”

That’s a legitimate point though an uncomfortable one. Settler colonialism has been seen in several places. This involves expulsion or extermination of the natives.

The slogan the early Israelis repeated was “A land without people for a people without a land.” But of course, it wasn’t a land without people.

Ponsonby
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Let’s take them at their word. From their perspective, those who were there were not in fact “people”. So no contradiction! Whatever one might say about the Christian Europeans in the New World, we didn’t deny that the natives had souls.

.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

If the United States had bombed Indian reservations after it achieved Manifest Destiny, the analogy would be stronger. That’s not to say it doesn’t have merit, but that is a distinction that is a difference.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

I agree. In a recent essay by Ron Unz, he describes Nazism as a weak Zionism. The Zionists in their fanaticism and genocidal zeal are something else altogether. For them the Arabs are roaches. Can’t reason with them — might as well try reasoning with a Tyrannosaurus rex.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

A link to that unz article?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

@Moran ya Simba

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-israel-gaza-and-broader-issues/

And the quote:

“I joked to a (Jewish) friend of mine that I’d suddenly discovered that Nazism could best be described as “Judaism for Wimps” or perhaps Judaism as practiced by Mother Teresa of Calcutta.”

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“For them the Arabs are roaches”

In J-for-J settings I’ve heard that term applied to white Americans more than once

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

“If the United States had bombed Indian reservations after it achieved Manifest Destiny, the analogy would be stronger. That’s not to say it doesn’t have merit, but that is a distinction that is a difference.”

Ridiculous point. Silly distinction.

The only reason the US stopped attacking the Injuns was the sheer amount of space in America. If the Yankees suddenly found a need for the reservation lands, a new General Sherman would have been sent in pronto. And more genocide.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  pantoufle
1 year ago

Both states were established. One stopped its ethnic cleansing after that was achieved, and the other dialed up the genocide. Very much a distinction and difference. To claim it was due to geographical discrepancy puts aside the ultimate goals of both.

Manifest Destiny was to establish a state from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Zionism was to establish a Jewish state and, as the goal evolved, to dominate the world. Israel embraced the end result Nazi Germany falsely was claimed to seek although it also seized land and territory outside its ethne.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  pantoufle
1 year ago

To a large extent we aren’t bombing Native American hospitals simply because there aren’t enough of them left to be a problem, but it is a interesting difference that in the US Native Americans get extra privileges out of White guilt over taking their lands whereas Arabs who try to assimilate into Israel remain second class citizens if they aren’t Jewish.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  pantoufle
1 year ago

Indian casinos?

Jannie
Jannie
1 year ago

“Meanwhile, Palestinian refugees prepare to emigrate to your town.”

Yes, and right next door who Jewish communities who will doubtless be targeted by their angry and bitter new neighbors. Classic “Jewpidity”.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

Luke Ford, a fairly despicable Aussie who converted to Judaism under Prager, described a conflict between the big (rich) and little (less rich) tribe members on this issue. Ford is a little one. He says that the big ones are willing to sacrifice some of the little ones. Breaking eggs for omelets and such.

My guess is that one of their highest goals is the dismantling of white nations, and while that may entail some discomfort for the little ones in the diaspora, that it’s worth it.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

I struggle to understand what the tribe gains, or even what it thinks it gains, from dismantling white nations. Who else has ever proven willing to tolerate their bs? There aren’t anywhere near enough of them, and never will be, to “rule the world” without some large entity, which they control/influence, acting on their behalf. It’s hard to believe they are so dumb as not to be able to see this. Especially now, today.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

They aren’t dumb, necessarily, but there are high rates of mental illness among the Tribe. Their impulsive and self-destructive behavior often stems from insanity.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Jeff/Jack:

Exactly. I feel perpetually stoopid trying to understand The Big Plot.

On the one hand wreck the West, but on the other, cripple Zionism’s big thuggish protector.

Whoever They is, they are not manipulating the pieces like some grand master. Least ways, not a sane one.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

It seems it is in their nature to push too far, thus the goal/plot to destroy the White goy rent boy they created before he turns on them.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

“Haley: You said that the Jews are behind this plot. Since they’re whites themselves, how would they benefit from their own destruction? Rockwell: They won’t be mingling like the rest of us. They believe they’re too pure to mix; they think they’re “the chosen people”—chosen to rule the world. But the only world they could rule would be a world of inferior beings. And as long as the white man is pure, they cannot succeed. But when the white man permits himself to be mixed with black men, then the Jews can master him.” George Lincoln Rockwell, Interview with Alex… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

From memory, so take this with a grain of salt, the world’s largest synagogue was in Baghdad after the State of Israel was established. The Israelis begged and cajoled the Jews in Iraq, many quite wealthy, to immigrate. When that failed, Mossad bombed the synagogue and made similar attacks on Iraqi Jewry, and made it look like the Arabs were responsible. This led to a mass exodus from Iraq to Israel. They have used this technique repeatedly and if a few of their own have to be broken, so be it.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

if I recall correctly about 20 years ago there were some attacks on Jews in France and this resulted in a mini-exodus to Israel. The govt there played it up and welcomed the “refugees” with open arms. Boosting the demographic and all that.

So They push for Muslim immigration to Western Europe apparently not only to weaken the West but also to scare Jews into moving to Israel.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  pantoufle
1 year ago

I think that in part the Zionist push for mass Muslim migration into the West is to encourage Jewish populations to go to Israel. It isn’t unreasonable to think Israel wants the Gazans to be ethnically cleansed and relocated to North American/Europe to encourage Jews there to relocate. It is kind of insane, but there it is.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

nonesense . the entire american law enforcement surveilance and control system will be mobilized to prevent any harm from coming to them, meanwhile , your 911 calls will not be answered.

imbroglio
imbroglio
1 year ago

Z, this post is full of errors and I can’t help but think that some of it may be intentional or the result of extreme bias. One can be of any ethnic background and if one converts to the Jewish religion, one becomes a Jew and enjoys the Right of Return to Israel the same as anyone who’s “born” Jewish and hasn’t converted to another religion, e.g. baptized Jews forfeit their right of return. 28% of Israeli citizens (2 of 9 million) are not Jewish. They are citizens just as American born Republicans are citizens. They form one or more… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

“The Palestinians deserve credit for being consistent. Their message to Israel is and has always been: “We are indeed engaged in a battle to the death.”

Mirror image “they cry out in pain as they strike you.”

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

Jews are Indoeuropean?? That’s a rare claim. Would need some serious evidence.

Of course also means antisemitism means hating Arabs. Which would probably make Israel the most anti-Semitic state in the world.

When you F with source code the problems just keep escalating up the levels. Putting Jews in the Indoeuropean column has the same problem

MoanenWeinen
MoanenWeinen
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

The clapped-out prostitute line about “Low-class mud followers of the Koran are the real problem here, goy” is why a perhaps critical mass of pro-Israel righties are sitting this one out in 2023 (and watching you clowns go desperately after Tik Tok, or whatever). You might as well say the Suez Canal is the problem… Or cheap drone tech is the problem… Or electricity is the problem— I think the Swedish girl is already saying this, and may charge you royalties

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

We’re due for a visit from Anna, whom I guess has been assigned to monitor and manage this web site.

When she arrives, she will claim that there is no genetic requirement to convert to Judaism or to immigrate to Israel. Perhaps prepare your questions for her claims.

(And it would be impolite to enquire if she has a certain trait for which Khazar women are sometimes known.)

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Der Ewige Milkers?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Jawohl! Die Melker sind gut! 😎

Ronehjr
Ronehjr
1 year ago

Refusing to connect the Israel problem and the Jewish elite problem in the west is amazingly, and probably purposefully, obtuse.

Bennythecoolcat
Bennythecoolcat
1 year ago

The Zionists inn the late 19th century were considering several places for their new homeland. The Congo, no idea why. Texas and Argentina were also on the list, with no consideration what the inhabitants of those lands might think, This shows the true mindset of the Zionists, nothing about the religious aspect of their imagined homeland, and no concern for the rest of the world. Now they want us to take in every darkie in the planet but they get to keep their ethnostate? Fuck that.

Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Reply to  Bennythecoolcat
1 year ago

This so much.
I’ll support THEIR Ethnostate ONLY AFTER they have shown support for MINE.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

The current conflict in Gaza is yet another reason why the collapse needs to happen sooner rather than later. As with the ongoing slaughter in Ukraine, countless thousands of innocents are dying in service to the avarice and corruption of our Western leadership. This is exactly the outcome that the GAE elites have envisioned and constructed. It is why they are importing millions of angry foreign males into Western countries. They want the bottom of social pyramid to face off against each other and kill as many alphas as possible in order to assure that there can be no uprising.… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

It is indeed high time for some blackwashing of the Ukraine war. There is an appalling lack of diversity in the killing fields.

Tars Tarkas
Member
1 year ago

Israel is the perfect example that mass immigration is not a strength, but a horrible weakness that leads to strife and violence. Had the Palestinians fought the Jews tooth and nail from day one (late 19th century), they would not have been ethnically cleansed out of their homeland.

This is why there will be no peace until one side wins entirely.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

There weren’t enough Palestinians there in the late 19th century. Most of them arrived during the British Mandate as the Zionist settlers developed the country and created opportunities. Similar to how the old Apartheid government of SA had to fight to keep Blacks out: the surrounding countries, governed by their own kind, were sh*tholdes.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

It was still their land. Imagine some ethnic group decided Wyoming was their land and came and occupied it and then started kicking Americans out saying “Hardly anyone lived here. There are only people here now because we made the land valuable”

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Well, perhaps it was your intent to say that this was the logic of the whites as they moved into tribal lands across the US.”Those injuns are wasting the potential of the land, so they need to go”.

That is why the US and Israel are such a good fit; the Promised Land ideology, and whether they are injuns or Phillistines (or Palestinians), they gotta go.

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

Logically and philosophically, Israel is no different than Nazi Germany. Germany was an ethnic state for the Aryan people; Israel is the “Jewish state” for the Jewish people. Germany considered the Aryan race the “master race,” Jews consider themselves “the Chosen People of God.” Germany sought lebensraum, or “living space” for its people; Israel seeks lebensraum for Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Golan. Germany ghettoized Jewish populations to keep them separated from Aryans; Israel has turned Gaza and the West Bank into Arab ghettoes under the control of the IDF. Germany created “Judenrats” and ghetto police within the… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Xman: One major difference. So far as I know, at no time did Nazi Germany declare that genetic Germans must be allowed to live anywhere in the world they chose, be accepted as a ‘loyal citizen’ of whichever nation, and simultaneously claim to be citizens of Germany with both the right and duty to defend it if ever a conflict arose between their host nation and Germany. This is not just a problem with the Jews who settled in the US from the 1840s onwards. There are thousands of Jews born and raised in Israel – “The Jewish State” –… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

100% on point. Bonus points for the based AF “Austrian Painter” quote at the bottom in closing. People always say he was this irrational flailing monster full of hate. But if you actually -read- what the guy said it was, on the balance, very thoughtful and carefully studied behavior analysis.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 year ago

Yea wouldn’t want the normies to figure out that he loved them and wanted what was best for them…That’s why they have to go so hard against him because if they don’t, the spark becomes a fire that will consume them all…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Also, Germans never claimed to be the master race, nor hated Joos; Germany was the first nation to emancipate its Joo citizens with full equality, and then the Nazis spent billions of marks creating Israel.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

” and support of Israel by the U.S. government is effectively an establishment of the Jewish religion when it is required by the Constitution to remain neutral”

Constitutions and laws are for the little people/goys. The controlling document for the Ho’s and Help in the West is the Torah.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Torah when convenient to the purpose, but in the deepest matters, the Talmud offers the authoritative prescriptions. Another “outward facing”/”inward facing dichotomy” holds sway here, and forget that at your peril.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

You are absolutely correct.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

That is a tricky question. Does the 1st Amendment apply to Congressional actions outside the jurisdiction of the US? If it does, then the US can’t abridge the speech of others o/s the US, the peaceable assembly of others, etc. Would make acting internationally rather challenging. The other Amendments would also apply, so I guess no quartering soldiers in foreign houses without the consent of the owner.

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
1 year ago

That can only come if those people, at some level, see themselves as superior to others, at least with regards to their claims for a homeland. Exclusivity begins with the claim of superiority in some critical respect. This particular statement is patently false. There is no reason why you would have to claim superiority in order to insist on a right to a homeland. In fact, such a claim might be more sympathetically received by claiming inferiority, viz.. “We are a poor and backward people. At least leave us our own corner of the world.” In any case, it does… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

If you think ethnostates don’t work you place ideology over biology, the Hallmark of the leftist personality

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

It appears part of the trick with being a successful and/or long lasting ethnostate is never proclaiming oneself as one explicitly. At least, I can’t recall that Japan or China or Persia/Iran ever have. Or Turkey. Don’t tell me ethno states are doomed to fail.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

“This particular statement is patently false. There is no reason why you would have to claim superiority in order to insist on a right to a homeland.” I strongly agree with this. The only thing you have to claim is that your ethnicity exists and this makes you different from other peoples. This is obviously true of most ethnic groups. “In fact, such a claim might be more sympathetically received by claiming inferiority, viz.. “We are a poor and backward people. At least leave us our own corner of the world.”” I could not disagree more with this statement. You… Read more »

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

How about we just say we’re “equal” and separate”

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  cg2
1 year ago

Why separate then if we are equal…We separate because we are better than them and we want to be able to live the best life possible which means we don’t want to be around them…

Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Reply to  Lineman
1 year ago

I prefer just ‘Separate’. As to defining who is better or worse or equal – I couldn’t care less. I have zero interest in these other peoples culture, desires, or interests. They are not entitled to be included in my culture. I wish them well but I want nothing to do with them.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Lineman
1 year ago

Because equal doesn’t mean same.

We are different and that is good enough.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Israel’s existence has nothing to do with being an emblem of the post-war order except as a cover. Israel exists because Jews control world banking, guilted the world through lies and propaganda, fooled gullible Christian simpletons, and bought or blackmailed key figures. That’s it.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

I modestly propose a leveraged buyout of this problem. 7 million Palestinians at $100K each to resettle is a $700B problem. Let’s just have the World Bank issue the debt backed by all the Bank member states (pro rata with SDRs). We resettle all these knuckleheads and get on with life. Surely there’s a Jewish banker somewhere who can organize this transaction. Yes I know it’s outrageous, expensive and yet another insult to everyone not party to this absurd spat. But this deal would be a fraction of the Green Energy boondoggle and might actually prevent WWIII and Israel/Iran nuclear… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Resettle from where to where? Maybe from US and Europe back to Palestine?

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Resettle in the US–no! Resettle in Brazil, where they would be some of the smarter Brazilians–sure…

Mow Knowname
Mow Knowname
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

What did the Brazilian’s ever do to deserve such treatment?

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

It won’t work. Here’s a non-war-related picture of Gaza. They live on the Mediterranean Sea in a mild climate. 90% of the Med counterclockwise north of here all the way to Portugal is nearly paradise. Even Croatia has managed to flip the script once Communism fell and the civil war ended. The exceptions? Arab states that have self-immolated due to tribal civil wars. Most of that region – Israel is just one area – was carved up and divided by The League of Nations around 1918 and again by the UN after WW2. It’s fascinating to watch this and notice… Read more »

Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Zorro, the lesser "Z" man
Reply to  hokkoda
1 year ago

There’s a reason they call it the Holey Land. 😉

steve w
steve w
Reply to  hokkoda
1 year ago

This is just it. I do not want to sympathize with Israel, or conversely, despise the Palestinians. But damn, the Palis make it hard. I grew up watching that corrupt billionaire Arafat in his ridiculous costume, pretending to “lead” the Palestinians, rejecting every constructive proposal for a peaceful settlement, decade after decade, distancing himself from every atrocity while raking in massive wealth. Everything about him and the PLO was a gigantic sham and a grift; the very last outcome desired by Arafat or his associates was some kind of resolution to the problem. There’s no money in solved problems.

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

NIMBY

filler filler.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

“They got ahold of key members of the British political establishment in the early 20th,”

Benjamin Disraeli was British prime minister in 1868 and then again from 1874 to 1880.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Sorry, this was supposed to be a reply to Marko, below.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Though Disraeli was a professed Episcopalian…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Even Wikipedia says this about him: “Conversion to Christianity enabled Disraeli to contemplate a career in politics. There had been Members of Parliament (MPs) from Jewish families since Sampson Gideon in 1770. However, until the Jews Relief Act of 1858, MPs were required to take the oath of allegiance “on the true faith of a Christian”, necessitating at least nominal conversion”

Marko
Marko
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Britain was always an outlier…or a vanguard. It was the first kingdom to elevate parliament, even above the sovereign. There were at least 2 powerful queens. First to abolish slavery. First European country to have an ancestral Jew as the head of government. They invented golf, football (soccer) and professional sports. They pioneered reverse colonialism and now the conquered are conquering the natives. And of course, they lead the world with the gayest police force.

Jake
Jake
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

You are very ignorant about France. France pioneered reverse colonialism. Non-whites were being imported into France before WW2.France was declared a republic in the 19th century and anyone of any race could be a citizen.France was the first country to see a collapse in fertility in the 19th century- a trend which began in the 18th century. France or Sweden maybe the most diverse countries in Europe.France refuses to publish data on race/ethnicity because the Republic does not recognise race! In terms of anti-Western:France gave the world the French rev(obviously) and PoMO..France allied with the Ottomans when Francis 1 was… Read more »

Kayfabe
Kayfabe
Reply to  Jake
1 year ago

France is done.

The Sensitive Urban Zones grow in number and scope. Gay French cops have to ask to be allowed in by the Imams.The UK police aren’t at that level.
Over 40% of newborns are tested for Sickle Cell,Operation Setinelle is ongoing and the near-constant riots are only rivalled by America’s.

How is France even considered a Western country?

maxim litvinov
maxim litvinov
Reply to  Jake
1 year ago

The French have been sold down the river and are now suffering the fate of the conquered.

People worry about Sweden but France is past the point of no return.

DFW paradise
DFW paradise
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Poland under Cazimir 3 invited the Jews to Poland so maybe Poland is the first reverse coloniser.

Russia has been pushing hatred of whites for over 80 years. Putin is still doing it and of course is trying to force illegals across the Polish border. Russian corporate journalists salivate at the prospect of Europeans being minorities in their own countries.

Marko,you have a very odd understanding of European history.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Meaningless. Blood is 99% of everything. Not just in terms of ancestral loyalty but also genetically-determined behavioural tendencies.

General reply to rest of thread:

The so-called Cousinhood of Uber-wealthy Sephardic (thanks Cromwell) and Ashkenazi Jews were at it *long* before the likes of Disraeli and then later Rufus Isaacs (subject of Kipling’s unflattering poem Gehazi), Herbert Samuel, Philip Sassoon, Leslie Hore-Belisha and plenty more showed up in parliamentary politics as the tip of the iceberg.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 year ago

Modern non believing Israel’s problems must be our Christians problems?
Gee, thanks Scofield.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
1 year ago

Another big problem is: Ashkenazim IQ 115, Palestinian IQ 85. 30-point gap. Also, Mizrahi Jews are maybe IQ 90, while rising as a percentage of the Jewish State. It’s impossible for these people to understand one another, any more than Nordics and Somalis can understand one another in Minneapolis.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 year ago

Average IQ in Israel–95…Perhaps a bit higher for the jews…

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Not sure that this big picture number matters. Point being that there’s obviously noticeable gaps between outcomes for several obviously different-looking Jewish groups (Ashk/Seph/Miz/Eths). This is always a recipe for trouble long term. And that’s before we get to the poor dumbass Palestinians down at the bottom of the pile… made even worse because nearly all their smart fraction emigrated decades ago. Going to ignore the Druze and Bedouin because I feel like it. Hannah Arendt taking a breather from ingesting Heidegger’s errr Deep Penetrating Thoughts in order to comment on the Eichmann trial noticed that all the judges and… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 year ago

Jack Boniface: Ashkenazim IQ is NOT 115. That number is from one single study of a highly select and small group of students in the early 1900s. It has not been repeated.

Wkathman
Wkathman
1 year ago

It’s hard not to chuckle when ADL czar Jonathan Greenblatt freaks out about the fact that most young people in the U.S. either don’t care about Israel or outright support the Palestinians. Greenblatt sees it as a “generational” dilemma for himself and his Tribe. He’s partly correct about that, yet a much bigger problem for the Chosenites is, of course, DIE-versity. Nobody shilled for open borders with greater ferocity than did powerful Jews, so it feels like just deserts when such a foolish policy backfires on them. Turns out the more “vibrant” among us tend to sympathize with Palestine. Who… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Wkathman
1 year ago

The Golem always turns on its creators.

Whitney
Member
1 year ago

I think they’re looking for a new protector but it probably won’t go according to plan. I’ve heard the Chinese referred to as Uberjews. It has merit

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/02/israel-rejects-us-plan-to-inspect-chinese-harbor-at-haifa/

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

The Chinese have been moneylenders for much longer than the Jews…Xi kicked the jewish bankers out of China…

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

There are some superficial similarities between Chinese and Jews: particularly in southeast Asia, the Chinese are seen as insular, moneyed people who throw their weight around. They are often obsessed with hustle and moneymaking. They claim to be religious or spiritual but in reality they are amoral. They tend to have a strong ethnocentrism. And their women find white men attractive. But the comparison ends there I think. For one, they don’t care about imposing progressive fads like Ashkenazim do, nor do they employ Talmudry to get their way. The Chinese are more robotic and don’t think laterally. They are… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

The Chinese got the full measure of Our Greatest Ally when Israel sold secret American military technology to them several times. Useful to gain advantage, treacherous as a reputed ally. The same with the Soviets and their interactions with Pollard and the Rosenbergs. The only logical conclusion is that Anglos are more easily bribed than Chinese, which seems impossible but the facts indicate otherwise.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

I forgot to add there’s a culture of shame among the Chinese that Jews and Anglos lack. Jews won’t often sell out their people, but they will makes fools of themselves. Anglos will sell their people out but don’t often make fools of themselves. The Chinese don’t abide either…culture of “face” and all that.

Hidalgo
Hidalgo
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

French and Chinese history not your forte.

Chinese may not “sell out” their people but will slaughter them time after time. Chinese elites were co-opted by the Mongols,too bad for the plebs.

Mao creating famines looks foolish to me.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Marko
11 months ago

This is a somewhat common misreading of the concept of “face”. Chinese will often behave in quite vile ways toward fellow Han, especially in public. They’ll do things that seem quite embarrassing to Western eyes, but that’s because face is a positive, not negative, concept. It’s similar to the way feral Africans believe that winning an argument means you repeated yourself longer and louder than your foe. A Han who feels himself wronged will lash out at fellow Chinese publicly because to not do so would result in a personal loss of face. The only way to maintain 面子 is… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Israel saw a rapidly diminishing Global American Empire along with souring public opinion and used the October 7th attacks as a casus belli for ethnic cleansing. It already was an international pariah and decided there was more to gain than to lose with the most destructive and inhumane response possible. Was it a successful strategy long term? Probably not, but the window was closing and there were no other options. The Arabs see the same realities as Israel, of course, and time is on their side. Domestically, North American and European populations, now polluted with Arabs, are poised to make… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

A very strange development brewing down south, beneath the mason-dixon line:

North Carolina progressive Dem says allowing Jewish Caucus would ‘end’ the party: ‘They control everything’
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4198580/posts

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

American Jewry and their Shabbos goys in the Christian Zionist movement probably will lose their catbird seats in “their” respective political parties long term over this Grand Old Genocide. The bottom line in the article you linked is that one faction of the Democrats knows it is on The Right Side of History, and the other still has enough shekels to bribe the party bohunks for a few more years. Winner for the near term is the latter, long term the former. To reduce to a mathematical formula, D (Karen > J) > D (J > Karen).

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

I’m simply flabbergasted that [on both sides of the aisle] suddenly everyone is talking about the JQ.

It feels like the dam has burst.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

I don’t think the problem is that Israel is an ethnostate, the problem is that Germany, Hungary etc are not. They should be. These states do not work as propositional states. What is “the idea of Sweden” if it is not to be the home of the Swedish people (my phone wanted to say Swedish meatballs; I almost left it lije that lol)??? No one can say because it makes no sense. One of our greatest problems is the absence of meaning in society. Making the obvious answer to important questions like “why does our country exist” illegal, destroys the… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Big tech thinks meatballs have more of an ethnic identity than people

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Who is disproportionately represented at the top of big tech? Do they consider themselves Americans first?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jkloi
1 year ago

They consider us meatballs that’s for sure

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Vide Ron “The Meatball” de Santis, who surrenders his people’s agency and freedoms in rendering service to Zionism. Meatballs can be useful, so it would seem.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

One of the most infuriating aspects of modern globohomo orthodoxy, from it’s embrace of the infinitely expanding franchise to it’s abhorrence of national borders, is that it represents a unique type of “reasoning” that is applied to exactly zero other realms. You mentioned tech. Here’s a though experiment. Pick some random open source software project on Github and show up there with the intention of treating the thing like a globohomo-ist treats a modern nation. Make it clear at the outset that you are very opinionated about the direction the project should go and yet be equally clear that you… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Pozymandias
11 months ago

I don’t know how this got started or what to do about it.

It got started when White People were subverted into thinking only for themselves and let their Community fall by the wayside…
We fix it by Building Tribe/Community once again…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Perhaps someone can explain the European reasoning for de-legitimizing their own native populations. I’m passingly familiar with the Windrush Generation arguments and Mary Beard’s tortured logic of black Britons, Jewish diaspora throughout Europe, etc…. but while most Europeans seem to scoff at these ideas, I really don’t understand where the logic or morality comes from for Europeans to entertain the idea that their homelands are not truly theirs. As an American (and I reject this premise as I understand the Founders clearly intended America for “ourselves and our posterity”) I can see where the adoption of the grand language of… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

I think it happened kind of like it did in America, there were winks from above that media and pop culture should paint nationalists as the bad guys, that nationality is really the same as residency. And they captured the elites with their formula of bribes, blackmail, slander of those who wouldn’t play ball. The same arguments that worked on ten generation Americans also worked on fifty generation Swedes basically

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

So you think the World Wars and nationalism’s part in that opened the doors for a sort of “we’ve done that before and it ended in ruin” ?

That is different from America’s pathos and seems reasonable. As far as the gluttony of the and perfidity of the elites, that lines up with us. Enlightening.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Well, Bad Mustachio Man was defeated by a coalition of Russian and Anglo-Saxon nationalists fighting for their homelands – not for some hazy idea of democracy or socialism. Stalin appealed to Mother Russia, not Marxist Dialectic. So I don’t know who they think will fight next Bad Mustachio Man – commie furries fresh from the gay clubs of Rotterdam?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Well Jannie, you lost me at
“Anglo-Saxon nationalists fighting for their homelands “. In WWI we English were fighting for the Belgians homeland and in the re-run it was for that of the Polack.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

As Zman noted just yesterday, it’s being pushed in Europe via subterfuge. The people have voted for the opposite, repeatedly. The dispossession of Europe isn’t something that is being done with widespread popular support.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I track English politics through Lotus Eaters do I may he getting a skewed view. They seem to suggest, as you, that nobody likes the mass immigration, but are as disenfranchised and hopeless in the running of their own government as Americans. But the Germans, French, Spanish and Italians? Are they the same? Unhappy with the status quo but incapable of thwarting their “elites”?

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Yes, I think that they are, having given their (sometimes grudging) consent to be governed by an unelected Deep State operating in the open, the EU. Sinbad the Sailor ridden by the Old Man of the Sea. But with the comprehensive collapse of the European Plan of the EU through the rapid disintegration of the German economy (the real prop and aid of that Plan), any arguable advantages of wearing the yoke of the EU poobahs is losing its support.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I track English politics through Lotus Eaters do I may he getting a skewed view. They seem to suggest, as you, that nobody likes the mass immigration, but are as disenfranchised and hopeless in the running of their own government as Americans. But the Germans, French, Spanish and Italians? Are they the same? Unhappy with the status quo but incapable of thwarting their “elites”?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

No people ever voted for multiculturalism. It turns out that liberal democracy is democratic in the same sense the democratic people’s republic of Korea is. It’s all a lie

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Meloni is the perfect example. Vote for one thing, get another. Welcome to our ZOG USA hell.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Misplaced guilt over colonialism. We conquered the poor browns and expropriated their natural resources, therefore we owe it to them to reverse that process.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

This I’ve heard before. These cries of “Colonizer!” have been showing up at US protests and campuses. It doesn’t really carry a lot of weight here.. and has a foreign unfamiliarity like antifa. I suppose some European colonization efforts were much more brutal (Belgium) than say, others (British).

Are Europeans really that hung up about their former colonies?

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Maybe they are, but what has really put the fox among the chickens has been the policy of allowing peoples of these former colonies essentially free access to residency/citizenship. “Rivers of Blood”, anyone?

Kayfabe
Kayfabe
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Do you really think that most people in Europe believe this nonsense?

Why are the propaganda and attacks against free expression so aggressive in Europe?

The average person cannot afford to live their life like they’re a philosophical abstraction so the whole thing seems absurd.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Tend to agree to some extent that the problem is not Israel being an ethnostate, but others not being one. Also of the mind that if Israel is only for Jews, then Jews in Israel only.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

Not that long ago, nationalism was all the rage in the West, and Jews were a people without a homeland. Funny how the tables have turned. Who is the Jew today, really?

Modernity is fucked.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

All of this is happening as we’re losing our religion and they (at least in Israel from what I hear) are finding theirs again. Significant? Idk. I’m having this thought lately that Judaism tamed Europe, and Europe made Judaism cool, and it hasn’t been a good fit for either party, in the long run. Christianity playing ball with pagans vs. today’s Judeo-Christianity, etc. Also, I’ve been trying to think of another nation that won a great war and saw its culture and cities almost immediately start collapsing, as happened to America post-WWII, and I can’t. Maybe there is, idk, it’s… Read more »

Ratschild
Ratschild
1 year ago

D.iversity, I.nclusion and E.quity for thee but not for me. I still have difficulty contemplating my forebearers went to war and at home went on ration cards for those goblins.

This Thanksgiving, let’s give thanks and pray for Iran to open up a can of sunlight on them. A truly biblical tan they deserve.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ratschild
1 year ago

I’m still waiting for the Statue of Liberty-sized Thank-You-Concentration-Camp Liberators Monument from certain folks. You know, a little token at least akin to the French Monstrosity overlooking New York City. Instead all we got was this dumb T-shirt from one of a dozen scolding Tolerance Museums. Rip off.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

The Hebrew language has 20 words for “I demand to speak to the manager this soup was terrible and I want my money back”, but no word for “thank you”.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

It’s actually “Todah Rabah”.

Your Hebrew lesson for today!

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

Perhaps amongst themselves…

Cattle deserve no such social niceties. Word up, sister.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

You’d think that even to Christians who worship the event, the presence of any holocaust museum anywhere outside a Jewish enclave or the sites of camps/etc. would be a *shocking* vulgarity. But there are something like fifty thousand of them, mostly in America.

Where I live there are more shrines to Jews than Jews. Black muslim kids are marched through them, drooling. Nobody visits voluntarily, and nobody who sees them sees anything.

Who’s the audience? (You.) What’s the message? (You did this.)

The phenomenon is too insane to acknowledge, like a bum with a knife.

MoanenWeinen
MoanenWeinen
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

It sounds like a Lenny Bruce joke but it’s probably because Holocaust museums are high status. At least, they don’t put them in strip malls with the Hispanic Pentacostal churches. Museum adherents, largely female, will not need to know that much of what’s in it to worship it. Steve Jobs could’ve designed a pretty good pocket Holocaust museum.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

This is the same with the posters and banners of the kidnapped displayed thousands of miles away from the Middle East. You would think one public figure/propaganda whore would ask why these are plastered in, say, the Bronx…think Hamas has the hostages stashed there?

People are tired of their shit. Both groups.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 year ago

While the Zionists want the Palestinians out of Israel, none of them will object to importing them into White nations and only White nations. One might think that maybe the Jews in America might want to keep their enemy out, but I suppose that says something about who their real enemy is.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

It’s hard to believe that it’s really the jews who want to bring palestinians to AINO. Of course the anglo baizuo want to. The folks on the left who are splitting from the tribe lately.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Congratulations. Yes, anything to savage the Main Enemy, even at the cost of having a bunch of Arabs running gas stations and convenience stores.
Also, this avoids the problem of a unified and vengeful Arab population living in the region and becoming influential in Syrian, Jordanian, Egyptian and Saudi politics.
Expel the Palestinians but send them far away where they can hurt the Main Enemy. Chutzpah.

Whitney
Member
1 year ago

Well now they can just move them to Ukraine. The West is busily depopulating two territories so plenty of choices.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Don’t know about you guys, but I have “Jew fatigue.” This tiny group is responsible for so much of the turmoil in the world, most of it completely unnecessary. Ukraine is a perfect example. They seem incapable of just living their lives or letting others just live their lives. Israel will be a source of endless troubles as will the Jewish diaspora, which will never quit using its money and other methods push their host countries to do things they don’t want to do, again causing trouble. The only good news is that the US is a declining power and… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

I have Jew Fatigue for the reasons you list, but I don’t have it when they’re being called out, like we’re seeing now. None of us in our lifetimes has seen anything like this. It’s mask off time, and more is better.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

I’d definitely agree with that. It’s great to see. However, you can also see how over-the-top the Jewish reaction is. They know that their power largely exists because there’s a complete silence on their power and the complete destruction of anyone who even talks about it, much less challenges it. It’s why they’re so crazy. If even one public person is allowed to talk about them and survives, it threatens everything. Of course, they undermine themselves by their wall-to-wall antisemitism PR campaign. Jews demand that no one talk about them even as they won’t shut up about themselves. Still, it’s… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

If anyone ever had any doubts about who wields true power in the USA…

MoanenWeinen
MoanenWeinen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

It’s not a great flick, but the current state of Israeli PR reminds me of the Tilda Swinton scene in “Michael Clayton” freaking over her shirt (supposedly an allegory for those audition tapes film actors used to make). I don’t associate the state of PR with the state of the military, Knesset, etc. It seems inevitable they’d break with Western elites over some symbolic point like Ukraine or Taiwan and then do Iranian containment with China/Turkey.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

It’s all so tiresome:

https://youtu.be/u9CFPhqZrjo

p
p
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Righty-o, view Nina Paleys’ video called The Land is Mine, with theme song from Exodus, sung by Pat Boone (who knew-). They’ve been chopping each other for millenia and will continue to do so til the end of time.

Whitney
Member
1 year ago

Why does Israel get to survive and Rhodesia doesn’t?
If you are like me and did not know what the Nakba was before October 7th, you should look it up

Simon Goldberg
Simon Goldberg
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

1. Jews are indigenous to Israel
2. white people are not in danger of genocide
3. white people in Rhodesia stole the land they called Rhodesia

The solution to this war is transferring the Palestinians to Europe or North America. This puts less pressure on Israel and put the Palestinians in a place where there is more of a buffer.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

Hahahaha! Good luck dude

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

The solution is for the US to leave and let the semites kill each other. No more taxes or blood for that shithole nation. Palestinians and jews can stay put and duke it out. Ashkenazi don’t breed much anymore anyways and those that do in the US marry goys at a high rate. No reason to spend money on that dump anymore. The jews here can choose who their people are, Americans or jews in a strange land. If they are like that scumbag mayorkas who is purposely letting in the turd world because of muh holocaust, their loyalty is… Read more »

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

Ashkenazim can have some trace of Levantine genetics but are non-native to territory currently held by Israel.

Whites are literally being genocided today. Dilution, drugs and depravity are as effective as bullets and bombs.

Palestinians are indigenous to Israel, not America or Europe.

Jews are not indigenous to America or Europe.

America wasn’t founded to serve as a dumping ground for the problems of the world including those brought by Jews or Palestinians.

Leave my people alone or else.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

1. Presumably you would have no problem with Italy existing only for the indigenous Italians. 2. Jewish genocide is a stalking horse. If you were really so concerned with this possibility, concentration of a high percentage of Jews in a small state that could be turned into glass by a few nukes would be a non-starter. Moreover, you wouldn’t be out-marrying so much. And, at any rate, the Anglosphere and most of the white world besides, foolishly worships Jews. Genocide is simply not in the cards. 3. If you go back far enough in history, all states were founded on… Read more »

KB_TX
KB_TX
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

If jews are indigenous to Israel, can you explain the battle of Jericho and all the other examples of the extermination of civilizations in your “promised land” from the book of Joshua?

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  KB_TX
1 year ago

Jerusalem wasn’t a Jewish city but conquered and taken form the jebusites. Chosenites genocide a tribe for Jerusalem. Gotta love that morality.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

I suspect Mr. Goldberg is having us on and is actually of the opposite persuasion. If he were truly as bona-fide as his screen name suggests he wouldn’t be so caustic. The hallmark, were he actually authentic, would be to sweeten the deal by appealing to our lesser prurient, brutish or avaricious qualities. I call sham Sir, and well-played. I see what you did there.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Or the other possiblity that they are fully mask off and don’t give a shit anymore about what the goy think and want to rub it in our faces… Either way though they need to go the way of the dodo…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
1 year ago

Possibly Brother. When you’ve been sitting in the cat bird seat and have manipulated the “moral highground” long enough… you get sloppy. Add in a sense of outrage at recent events and you might drop the subterfuge. I am used to the common method… appealing to my baser instincts, subtle lies, and perverting my ingrained and reasoned sense of morality to be weaponized against me. You know… the usual.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lineman
1 year ago

It is enjoyable to watch the mask fall. It really didn’t take much to make it happen either. Jews are a touchy bunch.

People are finally realizing that our relationship with Jews is that of the plantation owner and the house ni$$er. The owner is all smiles and friendly banter so long as we never get uppity. The minute that we do, he burst out in anger and violence.

Whites are forgetting their place and Jews are making sure that we don’t ever forget it again.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Lineman
1 year ago

“Mask off”
My children in their twenties see this very differently than people over 60. The reason is that, in the 50s and 60s, all the Jewish conversation about the Main Enemy was among themselves. This was when families had Hanukah bushes and the term “Judeo-Christian” was invented. When twenty-somethings were growing up, contempt for and discrimination against goyim qua goyim was rampant. Just because white children had to shut up about it until now doesn’t mean they didn’t see.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Yeah, I’m with you. Someone is having some fun. Well played.

Jews don’t make their arguments so clearly.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Indeed it is a bit “on the nose” (heh), but then again there’s always those one or two dislikes I get whenever I make a Jew Thing post so I assume there are a few Jews or Evangelical Shabbas Goys that read the comments.

steve w
steve w
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Yeah, if he called himself Moses Shekelstein it could not have been more obvious. You don’t go 0-42 in the approval rating without an agenda.

Shaul Stein
Shaul Stein
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

This clearly doesn’t go far enough. Palestinians need to be exported to Scotland in particular – a mostly empty land with a small population, and now delightfully embracing diversity with Scottish National Party leader Humza Yousaf, who even has Palestinian relatives. This can be an example to Europe as a whole, which will benefit from higher levels of immigration from Africa and the Middle East. Meanwhile, a prosperous Israel can repopulate the abandoned Gaza Strip and perhaps even parts of Syria with the fast-breeding settler types (like Ben Gvir). Muslim states may wail and howl, but their inaction now shows… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

No thank you. No, no thank you.

Uncle Schmule
Uncle Schmule
Reply to  Simon Goldberg
1 year ago

This seems like a lot of trouble. Wouldn’t it be easier to just have the US goyim drafted into exterminating the Palis for us?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Uncle Schmule
1 year ago

You’ve got the face-changing right… but the brutal honesty is the dead giveaway of the farce fellow-traveler. Lol.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

It’s more than just a two tier system. Many people who became citizens after making aliyah have only partial jewish ancestry. For example a grandfather. Many also came with their partners who are not jewish at all. From what I heard, both groups have less rights in Israel than what “whole” jews have.
So, even if they manage to expel all Arabs from “their” lands, they will have to face this problem next.

Jkloi
Jkloi
1 year ago

My favorite part is the commentary by the childless David Cole stein at takimag. He argues Palestinians accept their fate to die at the hand of the Israelis. He hidea his allegiance behind being oh so secular like his middle name but never acknowledges their genocidal tendencies and while acknowledging Jewish influence in all things degenerate, he only talks in proportions never leadership. He also uses as justification to accept the loss of family and home the Persian invasion of the socal and a Palestinian socal lawyer who works for jews. This from someone who is supposedly against immigration. He… Read more »

mikew
mikew
Reply to  Jkloi
1 year ago

Cole’s current routine is repeating how stupid MAGA voters show themselves to be. It’s almost a weekly ritual for him.
He was(supposedly) a Holocaust denier and then a neocon Friends of Abe guy and now he is shedding his skin again to morph into something else. Not trustworthy in any sense. A few months ago a Mexican shot up a mall in Texas. Cole actually defended the idea that this poo brown tatted up Mexican was indeed a white supremacist. Apparently that ethnicity has to act this way.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Jkloi
1 year ago

David (((Cole))) – why this smarmy shapeshifter has a pulpit on Taki, and people actually read his self-righteous blather, is beyond me. He’s an insufferable twat.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 year ago

It really is bizarre that nations agreed to put the most disagreeable ethnic group in the world in the most sacred spot in the West.

A certain someone thought they should all go to Madagascar, and while this also has its problems, there was far better chances of success. As it is Israel will be gone within 100 years. The writing is already on the wall

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

I doubt they can last that long.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Stalin sent his Jews to Blagoshevensk, which is a Siberian nowhere. That plan apparently didn’t stick. As for Palestine, I’m not an expert on that part of the world…but it seems that the idea for a Jewish-controlled Palestine got going in the late 19th. Jews weren’t the force in the West they are today, but they were a force. They were already by then influential financiers and writers. They got ahold of key members of the British political establishment in the early 20th, and the rest is history. Also, Jews were more likable than Arabs or Palestinians, and Europeans had… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

There were pogroms against Jews in the Middle Ages. Were they justified in any sense? I really don’t know. Perhaps. Some of them, perhaps not.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

There were pogroms, but the natives had the upper hand at all times. And there weren’t pitched battles against Jewish invaders. There weren’t religious conversions either, like you saw in Spain or the Balkans. So despite the odd pogrom (a term which is probably an overstatement: I’d say riots or raids took place rather than actual pogroms) Christians and Jews cohabitated more or less peacefully, especially in the big cities.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Well, they did not win themselves any points with the natives at the gates of Toledo. Plus ca change . . . .

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  c matt
1 year ago

That bit of treachery was long remembered, and in 1492, along with the remaining Moors, the Jews were expelled from Hispania (unless they converted, a dodgy prospect in many cases).

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

You don’t get Israel without the Americans, British,French and Russians massively helping Ithe Jewish people.

You talk about the Anglos but seem to have a blindspot with the French and Russians.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  DaBears
1 year ago

^^^^^^^
I am the original DaBears.

The poaster DaBears who, or most likely it, published:

You don’t get Israel without the Americans, British,French and Russians massively helping Ithe Jewish people.

You talk about the Anglos but seem to have a blindspot with the French and Russians.

The fake DaBears published the above on November 22, 2023 at 6:06 pm according to this website data.

Please note this tactic.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  DaBears
1 year ago

Through deception shall you rule…

Hmm, whose motto is that?