Fifth Column State

No one knows for sure who coined the term “fifth column” but it seems to have originated in Spain during the civil war. Legend has it that Franco said in a telegram that there were four Nationalist columns approaching Madrid, and a fifth column waiting to attack from the inside. Given that the telegram was discovered long after the phrase was in use suggests another source, but maybe Franco used this phrasing in other formats and that is how it got into circulation.

A fifth column is a group of people that conspire to undermine a larger group from within by disguising themselves as supporters. It is not just random individuals who disagree with official policy, like protestors. The members of the fifth column coordinate their efforts with an outside group, usually an enemy of the group. Unlike spies, who are usually motivated by greed or resentment, the members of the fifth column have a primary loyalty to the outside group for whom they work.

This is all relevant today as the client list of Jeffrey Epstein makes the rounds and is used by partisans in the usual partisan way. Lost in the usual bellowing is the fact that Epstein was an agent of a foreign state. The most likely explanation for his existence is that he was paid to get dirt on prominent Americans. He was running what people in the wilderness of mirrors call a honey trap. He used girls and boys to play on the sexual weaknesses of his targets on his island in the Caribbean.

Of course, the foreign state for whom Epstein worked was Israel. His long-time paramour was Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Ian Robert Maxwell, whose real name was Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch. Maxwell was a high-level intelligence officer for Mossad his entire life. So high level, in fact, that when he died, all of the living leaders of Israel showed up at his burial. More important, six former heads of Mossad were there, and Maxwell was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.

It could very well be a one in six million coincidence that Epstein was hooked up with the daughter of the most prominent spy in Israeli history, but the law of parsimony says that this was not a coincidence. It does not take long to see gaps in Epstein’s official biography, so we know he was not a middling school teacher who suddenly discovered he was an investment genius. Someone was underwriting his operation, and the most likely culprit is the state of Israel.

Espionage is as old as nations, so it should come as no surprise that Israel spies on America and Americans. It relies on American stupidity and generosity to underwrite the Zionist project, so informational asymmetry is important to them. It is why Israel stole nuclear material from a United States company, even though it resulted in a massive contamination of an area around Pittsburgh. The Apollo Affair was just part of a program to use America to further the Zionist project.

The Epstein case and the Apollo affair have another link. Unlike most espionage cases, the people doing the treachery were not motivated by greed. The oldest and most successful way of turning someone into a spy is to give them money. As George Washington said, no man is so virtuous as to refuse the highest bidder. Most men with secrets to sell are not particularly virtuous. In the case of Israeli spying, money was not the primary motivation for these crimes.

This is where the fifth column concept comes into the picture. One of the most aggressive and powerful lobbies in Washington is the Israel lobby. This is something everyone knows, but most people are afraid to discuss. Pat Buchanan was anathematized for pointing out the obvious. The Israel lobby does not limit itself to bribing politicians. It is everywhere in America. These documentaries (here, here) done by Al Jazeera a few years ago are a good primer.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC, is one of the wealthiest and most powerful lobbying groups in America. Their primary reason to exist is to convince Americans, especially politicians, that the interests of Israel are the primary interest of America, and therefore can never be questioned. It is right there on their website, so it is not as if they are hiding it. Prominent Zionist like Joel Pollak and Ben Shapiro make this precise argument every day.

Up until now, no one has cared about this as the cost of underwriting Israel was small and times were generally good. Times have changed and people are naturally wondering if a luxury item like money to Israel is a good idea. Billions in Israel funding is jammed up in Congress because the line of foreigners demanding billions is getting long and the needs of Americans are not being met. Millions of foreigners are flooding over the border and Biden is worried about Israel and Ukraine.

What all of this points to is a defect of democracy. The American concept of democracy is a continent sized town hall meeting. It is a marketplace of ideas where competing interests hash it out with one another. Since it is a marketplace, it means everything, and everyone is for sale. This is how foreign interests like the Israel lobby are able to turn the instrument of American democracy to their favor at our expense. It is also how economic elites can undermine public will.

Imagine you are the king of a country and one of your advisors, a fellow with unusual headgear, is constantly lobbying you on behalf of a principality. At first you think he just favors that prince but then you learn he is related to that prince. Not only that, but he is also part of a network that is loyal to that prince. You will have that advisor sent to the tower because that person has misrepresented himself and he has worked to undermine you to the benefit of a potential rival.

In American style democracy, this logic is flipped on its head. The people’s representatives all come with a price tag on their chest. Anyone, foreign or domestic, can buy their loyalty. The reason the Israel lobby exists at all is the system rewards those who lavish politicians with money. It is the reason that every congressman quickly moves from representative of his people to Washington to Washington’s representative to the people of his district.

It is why America is a fifth column state, because it is defined by the players who operate like fifth columns. Israel is just one of the best at the game, but every country has a similar operation going in Washington. People forget that the Chinese bankrolled the Clinton operation. Charlie Trie was just a good ol’ boy from Arkansas, when he was not a bagman for the Chinese government. When everything has a price, nothing has any value and that is what we get from our political system.


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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

I browse the Daily Sceptic’s “News Roundup.” For Janauary 5, here are some selected highlights. They are particularly relevant to today’s essay. “Jeffrey Epstein ran sex blackmail operation for intelligence agencies, new evidence suggests” – Unsealed documents offer new evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was working with the U.S. intelligence services to blackmail powerful individuals, albeit to mysterious ends, write Alex Gutentag and Michael Shellenberger on the Public Substack.” Note the assertion that it must have been US intelligence, not some other nation’s, perhaps a certain nation on the east coast of the Mediterranean? “Jeffrey Epstein and the never-ending quest for… Read more »

Gespenst
Gespenst
1 year ago

Say what you will of Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch, he had an interesting life (if Wikipedia can be believed).

houska
houska
1 year ago

5th column news:

Battle Of The Billionaires

https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/battle-of-the-billionaires

Mr. Burns
Mr. Burns
1 year ago

The real story of Epstein is not that underage boys and girls were being sex trafficked. The real story is that Israel has been running a long term espionage and blackmail operation which has enlarged many of Americas most prominent citizens including those in government. This cannot be emphasized enough. The normies are getting distracted by the irrelevant salaciousness it. But that’s not the story. The story is that Israel is systematically blackmailing most of our elites probably as part of an initiation before they even get major funding and media support. The Jewish race is effectively a hostile international… Read more »

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Mr. Burns
1 year ago

So most of our “elites” are shitty people, who knew? 😉

Now you know why everything gets worse year by year. A decade ago i was reading a book from the 1960’s about the Roman empire written by a Soviet of all people. It was very interesting. But he asked a question towards the end “where had all the good men gone?”. He came to the conclusion that they were still in Rome, but that the system no longer selected for them. Make of that what you will.

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 year ago

I am the contrarian here, so my take is that: 1. The Epstein list being partially published is a fight as noted by others here between Hillary and Obama. 2. Per the great philosopher Emilio Estevez, “That Was Then, This Is Now” with ethno-centricity. Taking the last first, it is my belief backed up by what I observe that ethno-centricity is being replaced by a GLOBAL racial identity, anti-White (mostly) and very tenuously, White. With the exceptions of the Chinese, perhaps the Japanese and Koreans, and most (not all) Hispanics. This is the triumph of Lennonism. John not Vladimir Ilych.… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

I’ve been getting the feeling the fix is in for Haley in New Hampshire and South Carolina. I keep seeing things in my news feed touting Haley, saying she’s in “striking distance.” I went looking for polls, and found that the most recent one (which incidentally showed a 30 pt Orange lead, I guess that’s striking distance) was published on Dec. 21. For a primary that’s on Jan. 23. For South Carolina, primary date Feb. 3, there hasn’t been a published poll since Dec. 8. You’d think that with these primaries only weeks away the polls would be coming hot… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

Upper Class White women can be and are adjacent as “allies” but that’s it.

Upper Class White Women (and even non-upper class) will always be tolerated because White women are the most attractive.

Hokkoda
Member
1 year ago

That’s what the #resistance was during the Trump years. Back in 2017 I called them a 5th column. Like Zman, I learned where the term might have originated. In the unlikely event that someone who ever agrees with us gets elected POTUS, recognizing and destroying this 5th column in the federal bureaucracy will be of paramount importance. It will be interesting to see if the public ever gets told that Israel was the foreign power Epstein was working for. The info released so far directly states that he was running a blackmail operation. The next logical question – the one… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Hokkoda
1 year ago

The Precious is not a friend of the tribe. One notes that the inclusion of W.J. Clinton in this release could be a shot at Her, since she might like to be a rival to The Precious’ avatar Biden for this year’s nomination. Extrapolating along these lines, and looking at the schism on the left re: Israel, it is not so far fetched to think that it might be The Precious who wants to expose (in the more “respectable” media) what Epstein was really doing and for whom. Seeing as how the burgeoning “anti semitic” left is very much his… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Smart take. A small quibble, if it’s even that: the inclusion and highlighting of Billy Jeff also has the benefit of distracting from the greater crime here, which is the facilitation and protection of a foreign intelligence service using American children in a honeypot to bribe American and other Western officials. While it might not ding the Christard Zionists, it would be a bit of an eyeopener for Normie.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

This was my take also. I think it also shows how much control Obama/Soros has over the Judiciary and FBI as Hillary was brought in specifically by the Bidens to shore their Admin up as they have no real political machine and the Clintons do.

I have a longer take on this including my view that ethnic appeals by certain people are being replaced by GLOBAL identity teams, but that is my view.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

Replying to my own, the comment disappeared into the ether no doubt triggered by certain phrases the comment filter does not like.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Good insight. The timing does seem to be a warning shot.

It is my sincere hope that this document dump means we no longer have to suffer from Alan Dershowitz. NormieCons LOVE posting about him almost as much as they love “Random Token Black Person” who proves this year they’ll vote Republican.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Hokkoda
1 year ago

Technically, it would be “for whom” but I know what you mean.

(Just trying to keep our culture from slipping further).

Miforest
Miforest
1 year ago

the fifth col. in action . well worth the time

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Miforest
1 year ago

guess I should put in the link. https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/misspiece:4

KingKong
KingKong
1 year ago

“It could very well be a one in six million coincidence”

LMAO

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  KingKong
1 year ago

I think that’s spelled ‘cohencidence’.

CromartieIndex
CromartieIndex
1 year ago

do you believe Menendez’s recent scandals stem from the Qatari (read: Hamas) bribery? I remember Fox Newsreaders in 2002 assuring me about the importance of our new alliance with that fabled land. Not many Q countries in the list, gotta hold onto those.

His Egyptian bribery with the Lebanese-Armenian strip-mall Bond girl was opera buffo enough, but I had thought he was also AIPAC’s top guy on the Democrat side (with Fetterman now taking his place; clown world). Is this like an NFLer with 8 baby mamas getting benched for “distractions off the field”

Greg Nikolic
1 year ago

Lobbying — an extension of common political maneuvering — exists to leverage one’s voice. An argument could be made (not that I would necessarily make it) that in a mass society of votes, monied interests must have a way of joining discussions at the table. Since they are monied interests, by definition they can afford to fund themselves. Washington lobbyists work both sides of the aisle. Democrats and Republicans alike are seduced by their promises of filthy lucre. One of the more interesting aspects of lobbying is when they write out the bills for elected officials, which become law with… Read more »

RonnieO
RonnieO
Member
Reply to  Greg Nikolic
1 year ago

To read more of MY writings meet me at the Kinkos on the corner of 8th and Dequindre.
I’ll be with Captain Obvious.
He can hook u up.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

Don’t underestimate the Chinese. I have heard Chinese businessmen can run rings around the Jews. Sure the Jews have infiltrated all strata of American society, but mass immigration and multi-culturalism have brought the Chinese into our military and universities. Their monster-big economy has every business mogul eating from their hands.

Worse, while the Jews and Zionists might well be parasites, they don’t want to kill the host. China’s intentions are purely malignant. The ceasing of America is to be very much desired by the CCP.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

Our real and imminent enemy is homegrown. If you don’t start there, you have lost before you even begin to fight back.

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

“While the Jews and Zionists might well be parasites, they don’t want to kill the host.”

And who is funding/promoting/enabling/supporting that mass Asian/African/Middle Eastern immigration? Hint: It’s not the Chinese.

And considering that the Tribe has spent decades destroying our culture, ruining our money supply, vilifying Christians, separating families, and ruining our cities with forced integration, it seems a tad suspicious when someone points and says, “Look! It’s the Chinese!”

And besides, it’s not the Chinese who are telling American kids it’s just grand to chop off your privates. If that’s not killing the host, I don’t know what is.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Winter
1 year ago

I am sure Xi and his minions are chuckling at the anti-semites raging on the Jew. More internal strife in the USA “Me likey velly much”.

While we are arguing about trannies and blacks, the Chinese are getting rich and powerful*. Why is that in the interest of the Jews?

Maybe the source of our issues is, indeed, the JQ, but don’t tell me the Chinese aren’t feeding fuel to the fire and grabbing all the advantages they can. When all is said and done, say hello to our yellow masters… I for one welcome our new overlords.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

You are absolutely right about the CCP. It’s not important to agree on which is the greater threat but it is important to realize that they are also a threat

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

“In today’s news, a Jewish senator has demanded that Americans look up and notice the sky is blue. In fact, the good senator is insisting we continue to look up and not be distracted by the ground under our feet. Details at seven.”

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

According to Alex Jones, “IT’S THE CHI-COMS.” And only the Chi-coms. In fact he visibly squirms and interrupts and deflects when his guest, whether it’s Fuentes or David Duke (from a few years ago) talks about Jewish power and influence.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Gotterdam and Wolf: when you are chased by a tiger it is still not a good idea to jump into the jaws of a lion. That one is a threat does not mean the other is not. This is not complicated

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

I agree, notice I said about Alex Jones, “and only the Chi-Coms.”

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

The Chicoms are a threat because our “leadership” invited them in, handed them the keys, then looked aside as they plundered our tech secrets. Any attempt to point this out was labeled “racist” by the usual suspects. Sorry, but China is on the back-burner and can only be dealt with after the furiously boiling pot on the front has been dealt with. China did not open our borders. China did not ship our jobs abroad. China did not unleash sexual perversions on us. China did not embroil us in horrific conflicts in the Mideast and Ukraine. And China is not… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
1 year ago

I do not disagree, but I am not going to place full responsibility for our sorry state on the Jews. We have free will. There is plenty of blame to go around.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

If the tiger is chasing you, right on your heels, and its claws wrapped around your balls, while the lion is laying in the grass 100 yards away (that’s kind of like meters for you guys) then the immediate threat is the tiger. Deal with the lion when you can. In fact, you can’t deal with the lion until the tiger is eliminated.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

I don’t know Zulu J. Julian Gewertz has claimed the flowering of Shanghai for the Jews. 😉 https://newrepublic.com/article/118477/shanghai-one-greatest-jewish-cities-ever-constructed I found this when doing some searches on Jews and the Opium Trade. I did that search because a nice Jewish man I know, who is ethno-centric to an extreme, was bragging about some book that documents these three Jewish brothers that owned the opium trade in China all by themselves. It struck me as odd that something like that would be a source of ethnic pride and counted as a great accomplishment, if it is true. Growing up a full colorblind… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Agree wholeheartedly Brother glad to see more and more waking up to the fact it’s Tribe Up or Die…

c matt
c matt
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

We have the numbers, the intellectual and martial capabilities to do so.

But do we have the will?

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

“They don’t want to kill their hosts.”

Want and intention is immaterial. It’s what they do. They push open borders and the destruction of a host. It’s the old parable of the scorpion and the frog.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

Zulu Juliet: Most Americans are ignorant about the Chinese, thinking they’re merely a quiet, ‘model’ minority. While they generally don’t seek publicity, they have their own financial and commercial network in AINO and you will never be part of it. Too many White men think Chinese women are demure and subservient, when they actually exert iron control over their husband’s salary, and their mercenary nature when considering a mate puts even White gold diggers to shame. (If you want demure and subservient, marry a Thai.) Personally, I’d rather not have any of them in America. They have filthy public habits… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Very much agree. I’m baffled that somr seem to think that saying one is a threat somehow detracts from the other being one.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

What baffles me Brother is Whites being content while they are in the midst of their genocide…

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

Your comment pretty much confirms Z’s thesis. I mean, isn’t it kind of curious that your belief that it’s not Jews who have a malignant influence in America, but Chinese, who these self-same influencers have targeted as enemy numero uno (Russia was merely supposed to be a pathway to China’s destruction)? So the idea America should go after China is hardly original. Could a fifth columnist have slipped into the comment section? Unfortunately, you’re about half a century too late. That’s how long America’s been building up China as a bulwark against the Soviet Union. We even sacrificed much of… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Gideon
1 year ago

I did not say the Jews were not a threat. I said that the Chinese have a malign influence on our nation as well as the Jews. One is a parasite the other a clever opportunist with no regard at all for the civic well being of ANY American institution. Jews have built hospitals, museums, colleges and industries in America. The Chinese would rather all that were dust. Not that they actively work to that end, but they just don’t give a fig about one tittle of American culture, heritage or people.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

“The ceasing of America…”

You say this like it’s a bad thing… Also, you are incredibly misguided as to who your enemies are.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 year ago

If the Juice don’t want to kill the host, they sure have me fooled. How would they act differently if they wanted to kill it? Seems every action they take is precisely aimed at killing the host.

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

Up until now, no one has cared about this as the cost of underwriting Israel was small and times were generally good.

Well, the *direct* costs were relatively small on a national scale, but the indirect costs have been ruinous.

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

“Epstein was an agent of a foreign state.”

Unfortunately, he was operating with the complete blessing of the US intelligence apparatus, which indicates that our intelligence apparatus is either owned by a foreign intelligence state, or has no interest in what is good for the nation it is supposed to serve. But I suppose saying that that is banal now, it’s so obvious.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Whitney Webb covered this years ago and her reporting is must read if you really want to go down that rabbit hole. Epstein had compromising video evidence on hundreds of powerful politicians, academics, businessmen, and celebrities; all with the goal of gaining control over their public actions and by extension, influence over their fans and followers. The basic deal was . . . yes, we now own you, but we will make you rich in return for your subservience. Some of the biggest current names in ConInc are members of this club.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Whitney Webb is highly recommendable. She is one brave girl and I actually fear a little for her safety. Because if she is right she stirring the mother of hornet’s nests

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

WW has done some terrific long form interviews in recent weeks.

They’re so prominent I got an Amazon Prime ad pushing one!

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Yes, Whitney Webb. Smart, courageous.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/

YT presence too.

Michael Chabon
Michael Chabon
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

‘One Nation Under Blackmail,’ as the title of Whitney’s book has it.

It is what it is.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

If the CIA/FBI/etc. are not wholly owned subsidiaries of Mossad, they might as well be.

Guest
Guest
1 year ago

Another excellent column relating to our greatest ally. Thank you. Beware the fate of Icarus–never fly too close to the sun.

It may be a similar one in six million coincidence that Intelligent Dasein magically appeared here just as you began exploring issues of the JQ. Their strategy to destroy 4chan’s /pol/ board by flooding it with irrelevant and useless threads in an effort to make the website useless was largely successful. ID might be the tip of the spear of an effort to do something similar here.

Compsci
Compsci
1 year ago

“It is why America is a fifth column state, because it is defined by the players who operate like fifth columns…. When everything has a price, nothing has any value and that is what we get from our political system.” Reminds me of the wisdom of C.S.Lewis in “Men Without Chests”. A nation can not long exist being ruled by men without honor and integrity. “We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful. In a… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Compsci: I love C.S. Lewis and his wisdom and faith. One modern meme with which we are all familiar restates his insight thusly: “Kill it, gut it, wear its skin suit, and demand respect.”

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

Fascinating. I had never heard of the “Apollo incident.” Thanks for mentioning it. When you add it all up — the Rosenbergs, the Apollo incident, The USS Liberty, Pollard, Epstein, etc. — it is definitely rather queer. There is absolutely a Fifth Column and they always get a pass on this stuff. You are trained to ignore the obvious. But it’s part of their religion and culture to do this. When I was a kid I used to read the story of Joseph in the Bible. Dolly Parton sang about it. We did “Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat” as… Read more »

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

“There is absolutely a Fifth Column and they always get a pass…”

Bogey and Bacall.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
1 year ago

What genealogical/DNA evidence do you have that Bogart had any j00ish blood in him?

Thanks in advance.

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

I reference them coming out in support of the Communists during the dreaded blacklist era, signaling IMO that while darlings of Americans, they were by definition part of the 5th Column.

Funny, you didn’t nitpick about Bacall?

Stay away from the Bourbon when you post haha….thanks in advance snark gets you snark back.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Now that is an interesting take on the story of Joseph. The Bible is full of rascals, starting with Eve and ending with Judas.

King David? Don’t get me started…

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

The Rosenbergs, at least, were justly executed for their treason.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

And this is why they will keep stealing until there is nothing left to steal. Everything must go. Even things that are bolted to the floor. Everything not yet stolen has been collateralized. This bleeds into the corporate world too. It’s a national culture. Yet millions of Americans will be in shock when the place hits the wall one day.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

And The Great Taking enters the chat.

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

Treble damages, collection costs with interest, one day late increases interest rate to 29%, acceleration clauses….

… and Joe Normie is like, ‘everybody’s kids borrow money to go to bumper sticker U’ and ‘everybody has car payments’ and ‘nobody has savings’ and….

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

May I introduce another term? I’m not sure it’s original, and there may be a different term: The Sixth Column. “Lone wolf” comes close. What does the 6th do? Well, let me borrow the words of a regular:

1. Act alone.
2. Never, never tell anybody.
3. Your conscience will bother you less as time goes by.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Words to live by.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I don’t recall hearing of Glenn Dubin before yesterday, but now I’m wondering who he pissed off. If you wonder why none of our elected representatives ever pull on the FBI’s leash, remember that it was the FBI who went to Epstein Island and Epstein’s Manhattan house and took possession of everything there. That stuff has a shelf life, eventually everyone so incriminated will get old and die, so a new Epstein is no doubt already in operation. Assuming he was ever the only one, which he almost certainly wasn’t. Of course when it comes to female pols, for the… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

There are plenty of Epsteins out there. This is not a new tactic. Any old spy novel describes it. I’m sure the paraoh sent a concubine to get cute with his servants to see who he could really trust

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
1 year ago

I remember when a well decorated US Navy pilot got caught in a bribery scheme after leaving the military and becoming a public servant. No one goes into public service out of good will towards their community. Sad really. It’s why we no longer point at historical politicians as role models for our children. Today it’s football players and musicians because we know their morals are already as low as they can go. Randall Harold “Duke” Cunningham, Commander, US Navy He was awarded the Silver Star, Purple Heart, Air Medal SAN DIEGO, 3 March 2006 – After acknowledging that he… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 year ago

“I remember when a well decorated US Navy pilot got caught in a bribery scheme after leaving the military and becoming a public servant.”

And here I thought you were talking about John McCain and Abscam. Which didn’t seem to have harmed him much…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
1 year ago

McCain and AZ voters illustrate just how stupidly in love the average voter is with an ex military man entering politics. McCain was an opportunist who screwed every AZ constituent for years. We bent over for him and asked for more. He ran AZ politics for at least his last decade with an iron fist. In the end, he would not even meet with his (angry) voter base and yet, but always won reelection.

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

What is the term for someone who is supposedly an advocate for white interests but who is either too generous, too stupid, or too cowardly to name such an obvious anti-white fifth column?

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

“Steve Sailer.”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

iSteve is busy making lame jokes about dead NFL owners.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Steve has become a remarkably pointless person and, seemingly, by choice.

Odd.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

The title of Steve’s new book is “Noticing.” Unfortunately he’s only a selective noticer now.

Cruciform
Cruciform
Reply to  Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

Methodist? Presbyterian?

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

First, telling hard truth bluntly is one of the reasons why this blog is so popular among the realists. As unique as that is, others are also starting to speak up; namely Scott Ritter, Douglas Macgregor, and Larry Johnson are now openly announcing that AIPAC owns the US Congress lock, stock, and barrel. These purchased representatives can easily hide their duplicity as long as they bring home the bacon for their constituents with a few token public works projects. But what happens when the gravy train runs out of gravy? Chances are that they can weather a slow slide to… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

I have written before of an “epistemological breakthrough”, where we can finally call things out for what they are. We are not there yet, but the serial backfires on Ukraine, Gaza, DIE and even Epstein have squandered the presumed moral authority of the usual suspects. Outside of the United States, and even within it for nonwhites and those under 40, Zionists and their neocon and neoliberal cousins are universally reviled. Even the eurocucks resent them, although they know who holds the whip. All it would take now is for one major media or political figure who is not insane (sorry,… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 year ago

I agree with you Tarol Cabot. What is the parable of the Little Dutch Boy and the holes in the Dyke? In some sense Tucker has already done this, at least twice that I can see in a major way. He did it with Candace Owens and he did it again on a major interview with some Subcon. In the latter case, it had to have been pre-pared because the Subcon interviewer explicitly called out Shapiro in the context of primary loyalty and Tucker elaborated. The thing that is nice about Tucker is his posture. He isn’t questioning and hiding… Read more »

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 year ago

AKA The Rectification of Names. Confucius was big on the need to call a spade a spade in order for the State to be well-governed. To call a Spade a Spade in current year, let alone to name the (((Kindly Ones™))) will bring down the Furies upon one’s head. Many on the DR have written variations on the need to go back and read pre-WWII material. It was all much more well-understood and matter-of-fact accepted back in the day. I always like to harp on the song “You Have to be Carefully Taught” from South Pacific. The heavy-handed message of… Read more »

Michael Chabon
Michael Chabon
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

Everyone should be listening to Napolitano’s ‘Judging Freedom’ show on Youtube. In addition to the excellent above named guest, he also features ex CIAers Ray McGovern, Phil Giraldi, and Cheney’s ex- CoS, Larry Wilkerson. Pretty much gloves off in discussions of treason and genocide in Gaza.

And last night Alex Jones, who I’ve always assumed was a disinfo agent, had on Bro Nathaniel, ne Milton Kapner. If that’s not a watershed I don’t know what is.

Jannie
Jannie
1 year ago

“As a Jew, I also cannot help but worry that the actions of these donors – many of them Jewish, many from Wall Street – could fuel the very antisemitism they claim to oppose, based on the age-old stereotype of wealthy Jewish bankers controlling the world.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/03/powerful-donors-managed-to-push-out-harvards-claudine-gay-but-at-what-cost

Nobody at Harvard cared when Whites were being attacked. If Gay had taken a harsh public stand against Hamas, she’d still be in her job.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

Jannie: Spot on. And why we ought not to care who they install at Harvard, because it will be someone beholden to them, not someone who will represent us. And as far as representing the people who founded Harvard – that ship sailed 100 years ago.

Today, anything that is labeled ‘meritocracy’ means Jews and subcons, money and cheating, at the expense of the heritage population (see: immigration to Canada).

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Sound, as always, 3g.

We indeed ought not to give a hare’s hind leg about such matters. Whatever it looks like, we can be sure that the tailor-made replacement will align perfectly, in one-way-or-another, with Global Evil.

God bless You and Yours.

kerdasi amaq
kerdasi amaq
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 year ago

There is a certain pleasure to be felt from seeing an affirmative-action hire being thrown under the bus.

Although, I would expect some blowback, from the DIE mob, for the Jewish donors to Harvard from this firing.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  kerdasi amaq
1 year ago

She blamed White racism for her ousting. Like I tell everyone I can, they are an unfixable race of savages and I despise them with every fiber of my being. The Juice are a close (VERY close) second.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  kerdasi amaq
1 year ago

The juice should be first. Without the juice, blaques have no power.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 year ago

OrangeFrog: Thank you kindly, Sir. I hope you and your family (still three children, I think?) are also holding strong. I pray for the heritage English people, who gave the world so much and are now beleaguered in their own homeland.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

Never mind antisemitism. I would have preferred that Rep. Stefaniac grill Claudine gray on anti white or anti Christian rhetoric at Harvard.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Snooze
1 year ago

Although misattributed to Voltaire, the observation remains true.

NateG
NateG
1 year ago

I wonder if Ben Shapiro was a steward or flight attendant on the Lolita Express?

Winter
Winter
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

Shapiro is an ardent Zionist and Tribe Member (but I repeat myself). As such, he doesn’t need to be bribed or blackmailed to embrace the primary mission of subverting the host society.

If he rode on the Lolita Express at all, it was only for funsies.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

I believe his title was “fluffer.”

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

For Hawking?? What if Steve fell out of his chair, someone could get hurt.

Buzzy voice, “a little to the left.”

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Owlman
1 year ago

I don’t know about the veracity of the midget fetish or if any of that is true, but I did know one of Hawking’s sons for a brief period around middle of the 2000s. Every time the son drank, he badmouthed his father – clearly had a great deal of anger. One of the things he would say is that his father was, to wit, lascivious. I did not press details, but over a period of weeks, he voiced this (and many other complaints) about his father repeatedly. I believed at least some of the son’s complaints, and I would… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

Maybe, in his younger years, before his full disability, Epstein promised him that he would give Little Stephen the opportunity to pass the event horizons of as many black holes as he could handle. How, praytell, could he resist?

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

@Jeffersonian:
According to the son, his sexual appetite was not exclusively before his disability took hold. He spoke of the desire as ongoing. I just searched whether ALS patients are unable to perform, and apparently they still can.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

Cue the meme: You must be this tall to ride the Lolita Express. Exceptions for Hawkins’ playmates (but they have to ride cargo).

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 year ago

In the case of Israel there is another “Fifth Column,” or is it a Sixth Column or perhaps useful idiots or fellow travellers. These are Christian heretics who believe that Jews remain the chosen people and that the present day state of Israel is a continuation of the Biblical kingdom of David, Solomon, etc. According to this heresy it is God’s will that the United States defend and support Israel as part of an eschatological destiny. I was raised in this heresy and it took me years to get free of it. I think the traditional Christian view was that… Read more »

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

I’ve always suspected that this is part of the reason that the GOP grew to be such slavish defenders of Israel. I know that there are money laundering aspects in the aid given to Israel and a lot of that comes back to D.C. politicians as kickbacks, so I’m sure the GOP is a beneficiary of that in part and they want the grift to continue. At the same time, I think a lot of heretics of whom you speak were a big part of the Moral Majority back in the day when it was highly influential and able to… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

The Israelis buying Jerry Falwell a private jet may also have had something to do with it.

The Israel lobby eventually realized that millenarian evangelicals could be used to their advantage, whereas previously they ostracized them as weirdos. Arguably it was their greatest political success, as it made support for Israel bipartisan.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

That’s one reason to doubt that Epstein really ran a Mossad honeypot (though it does *seem* obvious that he did). Republicans don’t even need to be reminded, let alone paid, let alone extorted, to do Israel’s bidding. American Christianity is the worship of Jews—not Biblical Jews, but the ones on TV. And the Democrats are the Jews on TV. Importing too many Muslims and cultivating antiwhite mass hysteria while being exemplary white people is giving them some trouble, but not much. “Pro-Palestine protestors” don’t matter. If they did, they’d be shot. Outright “naming” can have a cumulative effect when it’s… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

You describe my dad’s family to a tee. Christian Zionists with John Hagee as their Holy Prophet. More’s the pity because they are mostly nice people.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
1 year ago

The inherent logical contradictions of the Zionist project will end in it’s eventual failure. Plenty of non-Zionists Jews have publicly stated it; former Israeli PM’s have commented on it as well. Henry Kissinger didn’t expect them to last much longer. They’re a colonizing, theocratic ethnostate of about 7 million, surrounded by 1 billion people who don’t care for them, with an additional 7 million hostile Palestinian who legally live within their “Greater Israel” borders. They can have their ethnostate, or they can have democracy, but they can’t have both. Between the Epstein honey pot operation run by (probably exactly who… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 year ago

Unfortunately, the option to plausibly look on from afar has been stripped from us owing to the total complicity in all manner of Zionist enormities, and particularly so right now.

Jannie
Jannie
1 year ago

“It is the reason that every congressman quickly moves from representative of his people to Washington to Washington’s representative to the people of his district.”

This first dawned on me during the Gamestop scandal. Why was my Congressman not protesting over this blatant, government-approved, in-full-daylight market rigging by a handful of interconnected hedge fund billionaires? Staffers let it slip that they were furious, but the Congressman was “aware” (and doing/saying nothing). Just like the slapdown of AOC and the “squad” over a mild letter suggesting a diplomatic response to the Ukraine war.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
1 year ago

Good column, Zman, with the usual insight and a few chuckles (“…one in six million coincidence…”). But I think your conclusion—“What this all points to is a defect in democracy…”—is a little off the mark. The observation is true enough, and worth stating. But it’s a little like saying the problem of a vicious criminal is “society.” That is, it puts the blame on all of us, instead of on the bad actor. It’s certainly true that nearly every nation (at least those that can) plays an influence game in Washington. But only a very few of them (I’d add… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

Being in near complete control of the nation’s money and finances helps AIPAC and the tribe quite a bit. Take this one thing away from them and they would be knocked down to regular old interest group.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

Very important point. The problem with Israel is one of scale. The Armenians, Greeks and a hundred other people with security issues would also love to have Uncle Sam in their corner every time. But they can’t execute the same kevel of subversion for various reasons

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Actually, I think the main problem with Israel is unlike a lot of other countries who spend aid dollars on their own populations (whether bread or barbed wire depends on the particular country) Israel channels a lot back into influencing the next round of appropriations. And like the Al Jazeera vids Z linked to said, a part of that is countering the BDS movement on college campuses. Incidentally, while there are a lot of known donors to BDS, including the Rockefeller Foundation and a crapton of foreign countries, most of the funding is nebulous, apparently not even penetrable by Mossad.… Read more »

Melissa
Melissa
1 year ago

Sorry for going off topic.
There is a stand up comic from Canada with a funny bit:
‘People are talking about the fact that the country is falling apart. And the crazies on the left keep saying that the county was founded on ‘racism’. Well, maybe that was working. Maybe we should keep doing that. You like functioning railroads and highways? I don’t think the lgbt trannies had a hand in that…’

Epaminondas
Member
1 year ago

The Tribe™ have a habit of being the source of periodic “eruptions” among the people they have been feasting upon. In most cases, these events were tied to the abuse of usury and connected political entanglements leading to riots or war. And these events in turn have led to expulsions, which The Tribe™ have described as being “irrational”, when in fact said expulsions were the result of behavioral patterns. There is a long record of these kinds of eruptions dating back to ancient times, and with commentary about the peculiar behavior of these people leading to this chaos. Every medieval… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

I myself am more and more interested in The Titus Option.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

Yeah, but I’m sure Jews signed off on the Epstein doc dump. Also, especially in this day and age, people can connect the dots. Epstein didn’t hide his name like Jon Stewart or Robert Maxwell.

At best, this doc dump is meant to signal to like-minded folk in Washington. Whether it’s for Tucker Carlson reformists (like us) or merely for a petty Democrat faction remains to be seen.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

It’s also important to remember that the list released is only a list of people who Epstein had dealt with at some point, or names that came up in the trial. Even people who had only incidental dealings with him are on it.

The client list has not yet been released. And I don’t think we’ll be seeing that anytime soon.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 year ago

And you had best believe that there are many on tenterhooks hoping that their doings will remain secret; so much more leverage over them to play ball, otherwise…

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

There is an important distinction to be made here. Israel buys people and they stay bought. The Chinese and Arabs have been bribing politicians for a long time but the ingrates in Washington keep double-crossing them. The Epstein operation was just a “belt and suspenders” plan because those ensnared by it couldn’t be bought because most were already very very rich. Notice how very few politicians were on this “list”. Why? Mainly because politicians usually have enough free time and “game” to get laid on their own. Business people are usually ugly dudes who aren’t good with women and are… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Just because the politicians weren’t on the released list doesn’t mean they weren’t on unreleased lists. This release is probably part of elite infighting

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Yea that’s entirely possible. But you’d think they’d have leaked someone expendable.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Maybe they did, and this is the Clintons falling??

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

The high number of actors/entertainers on the list suggests they did release several expendables.

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

“Israel buys people and they stay bought.”

Not just bought, blackmailed. A photo of Senator Conservitard diddling a kid can be a powerful incentive to do whatever the Tribe wants. The bribe money just makes the sh*t-sandwich easier to swallow.

And as far as the politicians, we’re not seeing many of their names because the best stuff was held back, including all of those incriminating tapes that were “lost” by the Feds.

Convenient, huh?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

“Israel buys people and they stay bought. The Chinese and Arabs have been bribing politicians for a long time but the ingrates in Washington keep double-crossing them.” For a reason — well, two reasons. First, Israel’s reps in the USA (whether the Mossad or AIPAC or Jewish-American politicians or just the diaspora in general) are part of the US system in a way the Arabs and Chinese cannot be. The Arabs and Chinese belong to entirely different civilisations. Jews, on the other hand, have wormed themselves in to the very fabric of American and European political, social, economic, and cultural… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Yep. I hate when people compare the Chinese or Arab influence over Congress to the Jews. They’re not even in the same ballpark.

The Chinese and Arabs are outsiders begging for scraps. The Jews – for now – are insiders who run the show, but I will say that there grip seems to be loosening just a little.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Indeed. Plus their biggest weapon which has always been to ‘blend’ into the home-crowd, if you catch my drift; well, when they fancy it. It is my understanding that Mossad operates a huge net persons, of various degrees of expertise, seniority and activity. And when I say ‘operate’, this could simply be a person, of known good standing (a small business person, perhaps), who ‘wants to help the mother country’ and will be called upon at some time – perhaps never. Though I am not too interested in this now, the dealings of this agency since it’s inception to present,… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

I know exactly what you mean. The Israel lobby is the reason all our jobs moved to Israel.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Steve
1 year ago

No. Israel and their American cousins are why we move carrier groups to the Mediterranean and have troops on Syria.

Seriously, what’s happened
to Hasbara. It’s sad to see its decline.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Steve
1 year ago

To some extent, yes. Israel controls Multi-Natl Corp; Multi-Nat Corp wants higher margins; higher margins come from cutting costs (labor, material, overhead); Chinese costs are lower ergo, jobs go to China.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Nothing to quibble with. Couldn’t agree more. Just one comment on the side: Jewish people constitute a big chunk of the intelligentsia in the USA. Consequently it’s easier for them to mold public opinion than for any other group.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Owning the megaphone really helps too.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Btw, Darryl Cooper’s Martyrmade podcast has a great series on Epstein. His story is even more ridiculous and disgusting than you think. I highly recommend it. Epstein wasn’t just running a honey pot operation. He was also helping people hide money and/or financing intelligence operations. That’s one of his connections to Maxwell, who used his enormous business operation to launder money for Mossad. It’s unbelievable the operation that Mossad via Epstein was (and, presumably, still is) running. You also see how the wealthy Jewish community around the world but particularly in the US and Canada work together and with Mossad… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

As tiresome as “it’s all a Jewish operation” gets for every thing under the sun in online discourse, Israeli intelligence has proven it’s generally a decent rule of thumb.

btp
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Yeah. You can spend the rest of your life understanding the precise nuances of which Jews, exactly, and how, precisely they were involved in this or that specific outrage and whether a third cousin should really count as a relation to this other wrongdoer, who also happens to be Jewish, in this other specific, exact, precise outrage and decide if the really, truly matters.

Or you can just notice things.

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Speaking of the wealthy Jewish community, there’s an aspect of the Bernie Madoff scandal that doesn’t get much discussion. Madoff was running a classic affinity scam in that nearly all his investors were Jewish. Most of his investors almost certainly knew that the returns he was offering were way too good to be true and that he was engaged in some kind of criminal activity. What they seem to have been convinced of though is that Madoff was front-running and that’s how he was getting the abnormally high returns. They just never quite grokked to the fact that Madoff’s clear… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

A big reason why Madoff got away with it for so long is because most of his Jewish investors just wouldn’t believe a fellow Jew would rip them off. If he’d been Anglo, Chinese or Sri Lankan the jig would’ve been up a lot earlier.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

He had better than impeccable credentials. Rightly or wrongly he was known as the man who invented the NASDAQ.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

I’m not saying it was the case with Madoff, but it’s generally a truism that different standards of morality apply to one’s in-group vs. the out-group. Sometimes this is even codified in a people’s law, such as the Jews’. This worked both ways: It might have been ok for The Tribe to cheat a Goy, but on the other hand, Tribe members were expected to obey a long list of Mitzvot while the Gentiles needed obey only a handful, basically what we call the Ten Commandments. Based on my admittedly summary understanding of these things, then yes, Madoff crossed a… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

To be fair, the Old Testament is full of stories of these fellows bilking one another, or being disobedient to God. I mean, Moses leaves for a bit and returns and there they are, melting down gold to make an idol.

For a chosen bunch, they sure did need straightening out on a regular basis.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 year ago

That’s one of those stories I have a very hard time believing, or else it’s a weird symbolic representation of something else that transpired. What person, of that era or any other, let alone a jew, gives up their personal gold to be turned into a statue of a cow

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

They assumed, of course, that these unrealistic improbably good returns came from ripping off the Goyim, not them. Which explains a good chunk of the outrage when it turned out that *they* were the marks.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

The Jewish Bond was how I heard one investor refer to the Madoff fund.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Mossad is perhaps as important as the official Israel lobby to understanding Jewish power. Epstein was a classic Mossad op

Ppl should read “by way of deception” as an intro. Of course it is probably some sort of limited hangout as well

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Yes, Mossad acts as the enforcer part of the Jewish mob.

It’s one thing to have money. Musk, Bezos and Gates have money. It’s quite another to have an army of experienced and trustworthy operatives who are willing to blackmail and legitimately threaten violence on your behalf.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Citizen, Hot! Well said in your conclusion there. When I look around and see who gets their way and on whose behalf things are done, it is impossible not to conclude that America is a vassal of Israel. On Binyamin Hoch: ‘Six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence services attended Maxwell’s funeral in Israel, while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogised him and stated: “He has done more for Israel than can today be told.”‘ Oh please tell us Yitzhak, please tell us. Today’s topic and the backstory on G. “Maxwell” and her father seem like a critical story… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

The conundrum is if they have the kind of money to pay our best and brightest they wouldn’t be our guys…Also our best and brightest don’t want to follow anyone they want to be King which is why our best and brightest continue to remain islands instead of working together towards a common goal…Ego is just another nail in our coffin…

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Thiel’s Physiognomically-challenged Main Man Eric Weinstein is installed there as Court Jew precisely because Thiel would not be permitted to be Thiel were Weinstein not there to keep an eye on him. In some of their YouTube big brain discussions Thiel practically abases himself before EW as EW pontificates upon the 6 gazillion reasons why people like EW should not trust the rest of us to be worthy of inhabiting the same universe as EW and his genetic ilk. I like the fact that Thiel learned a thing or two from Girard. But we’re still just bugs to the likes… Read more »

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

“…much more like an international mob organization…”

Look into the affairs of J. Edgar, his man Clyde, and the who/whom.

Baruch Goldstein
Baruch Goldstein
Reply to  Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
1 year ago

“Murder, Inc.” in Chicago, Roy Cohn, Lewis Rosenstiel, Jack Abramoff, Edgar Bronfman, etc etc.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Baruch Goldstein
1 year ago

And now Chicago has the Pritzkers.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
1 year ago

One might be forgiven wondering if Meyer Lansky played a role in assuring that Hoover kept averring that there was no such thing as The Mob for as long as he did. Blackmail gets results, it does.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

Isn’t the experience of the ancient Greeks that democracy invariably ends soon n oligarchy, ie a racket? I think one always arrives at the conclusion that strict utilitarism amd free market are not enough to perpetuate a meaningful society. Because there is always going to arise situations where the (short-term??) interests of the powerful are in conflict with the long-term interests of society at large. This may be one reason why society without religion is bound to collapse. Religion providing “higher allegiances and rules” that will resonate when appealed to or shown to have been violated. Without this, you run… Read more »

Filthie
Filthie
1 year ago

My question is – now that the list is out…will anything actually be done?

I want to see someone get hanged, dammit.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Filthie
1 year ago

It is Russian disinformation according to experts

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Filthie
1 year ago

Check out this commentary on the people who’ve been running our economy:

https://twitter.com/RudyHavenstein/status/1742739150145479082

Even Epstein thought they were freaks!

Steve
Steve
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

Funny how Yellen speaks just like Stan’s sister Shelly on South Park.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

That’s some stuff you couldn’t make up

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Filthie
1 year ago

I was actually a bit surprised that they even publicized the list.

So either there really is a fed-up America-first cohort in the halls of power, trying to right the ship, or…

TPTB are tempting us again. “Here’s your information, goy, what’re you gonna do about it?” They know that while maybe 10% of the population is wise to the situation, the other 90% don’t care, and have the attention span of a goldfish.

TPTB know the power of the memory hole.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Limited hangout, ie damage control?? Plus the Obama wing throwing the Clinton machine under the bus??

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 year ago

That was my first thought. Shillary has been rearing her hideous mug as of late, as well as her supporters suggesting that she might get back in the race for president, given the fact that pedo joe is constantly stepping on his dick with golf shoes. Now with her husband not only on the list, but the fact that there was that blurb about him “Liking them young”, that now shuts her up because as soon as she appears someplace instead of her getting to go on another Chardonnay – fueled rant, the first question will be “Mrs. Clinton what… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Steve
1 year ago

Ding ding ding…Winner winner chicken dinner…I wish people would realize anything revealed by our rulers is never for our benefit…

pyrrhus
Reply to  Filthie
1 year ago

Epstein’s hard drives and tapes are still “missing”..undoubtedly in the hands of the FBI or CIA…So what was released is mostly stale information, the real powers are still being protected…

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Or continuing to be blackmailed.

FNC1A1
Member
1 year ago

If it ever comes to pass that America has to throw Israel under the bus, look for them to cozy up to the Russians. Their main concern is survival, and they will make alliance with whoever helps them do that. After the establishment of the modern State of Israel in 1948, many left leaning Israelis were in favor of a Soviet alliance

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  FNC1A1
1 year ago

That would assume the Russians would consider that beneficial. I can’t see Putin or his successors wanting to deal with them and get drawn into every one of their conflicts. The terms for Israel would be much worse than they are in the West.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Barnard
1 year ago

Maybe not beneficial, maybe necessary. That’s how a lot of this crap starts.

pyrrhus
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Israel in general has demographic problems, which were increased by forcing everyone to take the DeathVax, with the fundamentalists and arabs having more kids…There is also the problem of jews leaving Israel for the US and Europe, to avoid exactly what we are witnessing now, with half trained men being called up to fight and die…

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

“DeathVax” has been a disaster for Israelis. First decline in fertility since 1948, a lot of young people now with health issues.

kerdasi amaq
kerdasi amaq
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

I’d suppose that the Israeli prime minister who pushed that through didn’t do it for free.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  FNC1A1
1 year ago

This already happened. The Russians gave the Irgun lots of guns in the pre-Independence (British Mandate) era. I don’t think this is unknown or controversial.

usNthem
usNthem
1 year ago

“A one in a six million coincidence “ – nice touch – LOL. It sure looks like the jews are an even bigger problem than the negros – and that’s saying something. Of course those dirtbags played a prominent role in unleashing them via the snivel rights act. They all need to be deported to Gaza…