The Losers Morality

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On Sunday, a US Air Force member named Aaron Bushnell set himself on fire outside the Israel embassy to protest the war in Gaza. This being the modern age, he live steamed the act on Twitch. According to the BBC, he had e-mailed a message to the Antifa media operators with whom he was associated. “Today, I am planning to engage in an extreme act of protest against the genocide of the Palestinian people,” the email read, warning it would be “highly disturbing”.

The video is disturbing for a number of reasons, the most obvious of which it shows a man burning to death, which is one of the most horrific ways to die. It also shows uniformed police doing nothing but pointing their guns at the man as he burned to death, because that is the only thing they know how to do now. Finally, someone rushed up with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames, but the cops still stood there ready to shoot the poor man if they could find a reason to do it.

The point of this act was to get attention to the cause, which is the Israeli war on the Palestinian settlements in Gaza. Antifa, with whom Mr. Bushnell was associated, is anti-Israel, so they have taken up the cause of Gaza. Despite claiming to be antifascist, the anarchist subculture is surprisingly antisemitic, something that gets left out of the reporting by the media. It is a good example of how the Washington regime will align with anyone, no matter how bizarre, if it suits their needs.

The logic behind this protest is that it so shocks the sensibilities that no one can ignore it, thus attention is brought to the cause. There is no disputing this. Before Aaron Bushnell self-immolated, no one other than his family and friends had any reason to know his name, but now he is global news. To a lesser degree, his reasons for doing what he did are also global news. For the anti-Israel movement around the world, Aaron Bushnell is now a martyr and hero for the cause.

That is where things get complicated. For those already in the pro-Gaza camp, Mr. Bushnell’s actions are noble because they elicit pity. Michael Tracy tried unsuccessfully to make this point on Twitter. You are supposed to see the act, feel pity for the man suffering and then think about his reasoning. Presumably, once you understand his reasoning, you will not only embrace his reasoning, but embrace the moral claims that he is making with regards to Israel.

Of course, you could just as easily look at his act, feel pity for the man and then conclude he must be insane. After all, reason tells us that all living creators seek to preserve their lives by any means necessary. This we can observe in nature and within ourselves as living things. Therefore, a human seeking to die is probably suffering from mental defect and needs protection from himself. Perhaps his cause is just as crazy as the man killing himself in the name of the cause.

There is something else. Why should the moral claims of a loser, a failure, a maniac, have greater appeal than the moral claims of the people supporting the stronger party in the Gaza conflict? In other words, why do the losers have a claim on our sympathy rather than the winners? Why should our sympathy have any role in determining the morality of the two parties in the conflict? Why are both sides appealing to our pity and sympathy rather than some other emotion?

In no other area of life is this logic applied. In a war the winners are celebrated and the losers are punished, usually by their own people. When the Ukraine army falls apart, the political leaders of Ukraine will flee for their lives. The leaders of NATO countries will be mocked and scorned by their own people. We see the same in sports competition, where the winners are feted and the losers and excoriated. Why in this case should the morality be turned on its head?

The truth is, it is not turned on its head. The reason this sort of protest, and most protests, fail to sway the public is they appeal to a loser’s morality. The protestors are saying, in effect, that they cannot win the debate with the public and they cannot win the argument with the rulers. They are powerless, so no one addresses their concerns, which leaves them with nothing by an appeal to your sympathy. This always fails as people naturally support the winner and reject the loser.

This is why most of the commentary online about the self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell was mocking and joking. Even in that Michael Tracey thread the replies are sarcastic, despite his obvious appeal to pity. It turns out that appeals to pity only work on those who see themselves as pitiful. To everyone else, they just reinforce the notion that the losers deserve to lose, which is why they act like losers. For most people, Bushnell’s act proves his cause is not worth considering.

It is an important point about politics. Democratic politics are theater and self-pity makes for bad box office. Successful political movements project strength and confidence, not weakness and self-pity. That means all public displays, including protests, should project strength and confidence. Aaron Bushnell would have served his cause better if he went about punching Israelis in the nose. At least then he would have been seen as a threat and people will respect a man who is a threat.


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Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
4 months ago

The pros and cons of the Gaza fight never crossed my mind when I heard about this self-immolation incident. All I thought of was that the US military policy of recruiting mental defectives was already paying dividends.

JDaveF
JDaveF
4 months ago

The whole point of intersectionality and identity politics is to see oneself as a loser.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  JDaveF
4 months ago

That always struck me from reading (((Zinn’s))) People’s History of the United States. Even when I first read it back in the Clinton years, when I was moderately leftist and sympathetic to many of the characters depicted therein, it struck me that in chapter after chapter the purported “good guys” would have succeeded in their plans if not for our meddling (insert descriptor: racist, fascist, capitalist, etc.) overlords. In Zinn’s view, the best among us are victims who are constantly beaten down and never catch a break.

Arnauld Amalric
Arnauld Amalric
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

It’s like in the Soviet Union, every failure was due to saboteurs and Western agents.

Progressives can’t ever be in charge, because they know the way to Utopia, and if they were perceived as the ones calling the shots, the question would immediately be raised why everything’s going to hell and Utopia seems farther away than ever.

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

the best among us are victims who are constantly beaten down and never catch a break.

Totally stealing this!

KingKong
KingKong
4 months ago

Sometimes it’s wiser to forgo posting about an issue than to post some weird gibberish.

Stephanie
Stephanie
4 months ago

Another martyr for someone else’s lost cause. How original. Mkultra lives on, evidently. They won’t give up their twisted ways and they mean to have every innocent generation of Americans, and especially the Christian or patriotic ones, suffer their sins until we are bled dry.

Is that about it?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Down below somewhere I posted some opinions about self immolation demographics, which according to this convenient self immolation one stop shop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_self-immolations were in error. Turns out many women have self immolated, many of them buddhist nuns. Indeed, the early days of political self immolation appear to have been entirely buddhist, before catching on with westerners. However, I may have been closer to correct about the racial demographics. While east asians, south asians, europeans, semites, and americans are all well represented, among the 240 cases listed there is only one hispanic, and perhaps one negro, the latter I can’t confirm,… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Z: “Antifa, with whom Mr. Bushnell was associated, is anti-Israel, so they have taken up the cause of Gaza. Despite claiming to be antifascist, the anarchist subculture is surprisingly antisemitic, something that gets left out of the reporting by the media.” What’s [logically] bizarre here is that Anti-Fa was created by the Council of the Sanhedrin way back in the 1930s, as a desperate attempt to counter the rise of Mustachio’ed Austrian Water-Coloring Artist Dude. To this day, the j00z are immensely proud of Anti-Fa; they’ve made a magnificent Wikipedia page for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion But here in this instance, we… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
4 months ago

Maybe we should oppose Israel’s war in Gaza because it is mass murder masquerading as self defense?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Dutch Boy
4 months ago

That’s fine. You so. Why should the rest of us?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

Er, “You do so.”

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

The only reason more people in the west aren’t is the msm has suppressed it at the behest of the zoinests & dotgov
I’ve been to Israel twice for business It’s as degenerate as anywhere else, the few Muslims I have interacted with there were nothing except polite & reasonable. The Jewish people were a mixed bag at best.
As far as I’m concerned all of that part of the world is a sink hole. Knee jerk muh Isreal makes is just as stupid as nutball Islam.
Also, if you didn’t know. Evangelicals are not well.liked there at all.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Dutch Boy
4 months ago

What is the significance of my “opposing” or “standing with” one side or the other? None of the people involved have the least thing to do with me. Nor does the regime give the first little shit what I think about its policies.

In fact, given the baizuo regime’s propensity for doing the opposite of whatever they think “maga” wants, assuming that the opposite must be the moral good, then the best thing we “deplorables” could do for palestinians is to “support” israel, in the hopes that the regime would withdraw support from israel just to spite us.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Well, we’re paying for the mass murder (i.e., the USA is an accomplice), that’s why.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Dutch Boy
4 months ago

We should oppose it if “joe biden’ is secretly deploying our soldiers to do the bidding of desert tribes in the middle east and doing things that aren’t becoming of an American soldier, for Christ’s sake…we are not like and should not be like them! It’s shameful. We are not a desert tribe, or a European NATO weenie either. American used to mean we weren’t like them. We fled from their ways.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Stephanie
4 months ago

I only oppose sending White, middle class, hard working men. If the pedo in charge decides to send all of the negros and trannies over there, I am more than happy to see it. Send them all. Arm them with their pink dildos and have them rush into battle!

Biscay
Biscay
Reply to  Stephanie
4 months ago

“We fled from their ways.”

Rejecting the European roots of the US and embracing Judeo Christian values. How’s that working out for ya?

That argument also means accepting all the people “fleeing” their countries and crossing the southern border.

In key ways people like you deserve everything that’s happening to you. Ya know: fruits of your ideology.

Arnauld Amalric
Arnauld Amalric
Reply to  Dutch Boy
4 months ago

Maybe when two desert tribes who both hate us fight a millennia old war, the sane thing for us is to keep out of it.

Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
4 months ago

I was wondering how long it would take for people to suss out the fact that 50% of the pro-Pali protests are staged by islamist nutjobs and the other 50% are the usual suspects from the Antifa/BLM/woke crowd who simply like to get out and muck about. It seems that it didn’t take quite as long as I thought it might, given the rather ho-hum, too-bad-so-sad reaction to this self-imolating loser. The support for the Pali/Hamas crew is sorely lacking among normal people here in America who have long ago lost any sense of pity or sympathy for the always… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
4 months ago

Yet who are they, really? There never was a Palestinian coin, or nation, or language. The whole thing is a creation of the Mandate. Palestinian used to be a word for Jew, as South Asian is a word for Indian (and Pakistan itself is another artificial British creation, Pashtun-Afghan-Kurd-Iranian-Land.) Plus, as I said below, the Palestinian identity was created by a New York marketing firm in 1967. No, not Philistine/Phoenicians, that’s the Lebanese. The genetic tell is that quinine kills them; they are a separate people from the Semites. The thing is, is this the power of borders or flags?… Read more »

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

That’s funny.
I have an 1847 map of “Turkey in Asia” and right there, around Jerusalem, Gaza, and Hebron it says in big letters “Palestine”.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Xin Loi
4 months ago

If only somebody could convince those darn Palestinians that they don’t really exist, then things would be fine.

Jon Liebowich
Jon Liebowich
Reply to  Dutch Boy
4 months ago

Alzaebo is beginning to show his hand…

NeoSpartan
NeoSpartan
Reply to  Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
4 months ago

Ok jew.

I greatly prefer them to the BLM. They aren’t burning shit down or targeting whites.

Immigration was a problem well before Biden. Doubt Trump is going to do mass deportations, might stem the flow and buy some time, but Whites are slated for extinction unless we get serious.

NeoSpartan
NeoSpartan
Reply to  Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
4 months ago

Not to mention that it was largely jewish NGOs like the Hebrew immigrant aid society who brought muslims into our countries in the first place.

Hmmm… mostly fighting age men why would that be? Who would want their enemies fighting potential sapped? Hmmm…

Vince
Vince
4 months ago

“Aaron Bushnell would have served his cause better if he went about punching Israelis in the nose. At least then he would have been seen as a threat and people will respect a man who is a threat.” Absolutely. In the days of my youth during the Vietnam War the occasional Monk would immolate himself for the same reason, i.e. to draw attention. All it accomplished at the time and regrettably all that I remember 55 years later were the crass jokes comparing gas mileage between Volkswagens and Buddhists. I can only pray that in his last moments Aaron made… Read more »

Mike Tre
Mike Tre
4 months ago

All this looks like to me yet another example of how whites have been brainwashed into believing that the struggles of non-whites are more important than the struggles of his own people.

I’d have sympathy for Aaron Bushnell had he set himself on fire outside the doors of Purdue Pharmaceuticals, in protest of all the millions of US whites who have been duped into getting themselves addicted to powerful opioids and destroying their lives.

So whether he was an antisemite or not, the juice were successful in brainwashing him to hate himself regardless.

NeoSpartan
NeoSpartan
Reply to  Mike Tre
4 months ago

He was an Antfia. They are a lost cause. For whatever reason their anti-white brainwashing is extra effective on 5-10% of whites. Probably those who already had preexisting mental disorders.

I’m just glad that some of their anti-whiteness is being directed at people other than us for once.

Nobody without a mental disorder is going to set themselves on fire. If something happens to Perdue, let it itself be burned down, rather than a real human. Much better form of protest imo.

Look to the Irish form of resistance. Much more healthy.

anon
anon
Reply to  Mike Tre
4 months ago

“So whether he was an antisemite or not, the juice were successful in brainwashing him to hate himself regardless.”

Kind of makes you wonder if the poor sod was the victim of some MK Ultra type of brainwashing.

At least he only offed himself and did not take a bunch of others with him as has been the case with some SSRI imbibers.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
4 months ago

As far as the Pali/Israeli issue, it’s Semites gonna Semite. If I was an Indian, I wouldn’t care to walk in either of their moccasins. The mystery that has vexed me, though, is the pro-Palestine protests. The are synchronised, sponsored, funded, and organized exactly like any other Soros color revolution. Bussed in, media alerted and attentive, headlines headlining. Somebody paid for the banners and signs. Heavy promo at university. What’s more, “global”. Country to country- at a soccer game in Ireland, for eff’s sake!- EXACTLY like the absurd George Floyd “protests”. This is entirely as astroturfed as any campaign as… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

“So…why the heck would the J**s who run this industry do a “pro-Palestine” campaign? Something is seriously skewed in this picture.”

muslims have a lot of sway as well, they know how to manipulate leftists.

Lots of money behind islam.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
4 months ago

Thinking about it, and in reference to the Tunisian fruit-cart seller (thankfully mentioned below), yeah, this has “Arab Spring
/ Obama-Powers-Rice social media SMO” written all over it.

I do know, sentry, that Lebanon Daily Star and Al-jazeera completely lost their sh*t, as did the Turks. Cairo noticeably quiet, since Sisi was the target of the Obama twitter SMO; it brought down Mubarak, even.

Dunno. Some serious fuckery afoot. Some damn fool thing in the Balkans or whatnot.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

sisi works for js and so are the turks.

i was mostly referring to iranians and saudis.

both of whom had close connections to obama administration.

Z-Car
Z-Car
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

The “elderly fruit seller” whose abuse by police sparked a rent-a-riot in Tunisia was an interesting script twist on the “young aspiring rapper” whose abuse by police can reliably spark rent-a-riot in America. Same script writers, methinks.

Spingehra
Spingehra
Reply to  Z-Car
4 months ago

I dunno The left has been highly organized for along time here in the PNW they can get bus loads of white kids for just about every thing. The full time Black block are well organized & financed they are always accompanied with medical and legal. That are trained if not actually professional They also conduct firearms training and do have a few ex military. They should not be underestimated. Sometimes they will have marches through affluent areas (However never on mercer island) Last year a gaggle of them with a blm banner marched down a road in my neighborhood… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I do apologise for the add-on, but it was Caroline Glick- as trustworthy a voice as you’ll find in that neck of the woods- who complained at the start about Israeli NGOs staging the protests.

Like me, her column was basically, “What in the wide wide world o’ sports is a-goin’ on?”

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

With Jews it’s communism first, last, and always.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

“I hired you to get some track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I agree with you that the fact that some powerful chosen groups promote and display measured sympathy for the Palis is one of the best arguments against the alleged tribal unity of the chosen. The explanation is usually offered is that there are two groups who want the same thing but disagree about the speed with which that shared goal should be pursued. It’s like the Democrats and Republicans arguing about the border or immigration. They both want essentially the same result, but disagree about how aggressive the execution of the plan should be. Still, it’s a good argument against… Read more »

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

#1 The Chinese may be running this op to damage the US, weaken the US-israeli relationship, turn NATO populations against their leaders, secure access to oil for China, and drive a resolution they ultimately negotiate in their favor, emerging as the new hegemon.

#2 Copy what works. Big Oil doesn’t want a shooting war in MENA. The western powers seem ineffective and lost for solutions. The jews are genocidally crazy and won’t rein-in. The letterbet neocons are stoking conflict everywhere. Somebody with resources had the idea to use proven political tactics to put the jews back on a leash somewhat.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

That’s good. That’s very good. Israel has trade contracts with China, of course, and as Line notes, Bibi has political enemies in Israel who want to see him in jail. Plus, Israeli dealers make a butt-ton of money as middlemen trading with so-called “enemies”- Russia, Iran, Turkey, China, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Nigeria, Congo, pretty much every crook in every market, black, grey, or Episcopalian. And Chinese cargo, of course, sails happily up the Red Sea. While China pursues that full-spectrum assymetric Sun Tzu war doctrine of theirs. Putting pressure back on the bankers after a few Chinese banks failed might be… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Sorry, length. Putting a leash on it, absolutely.
I was thinking about Plan B; if it all blows up, they’ll run to strength. That’s here.

They always run to strength, from Ur to Egypt to Rome.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Yes, unfortunately, we probably get a bunch of little hats. Already, some of the dual passports crowd are looking for the exit. My, just what we need millions more of them, all fully equipped with grievances against the goyim for not being willing to die for Greater Israel as has been done in the past. Oh, frabjous joy.

And if we are really lucky, we’ll wind up with millions of similarly aggrieved Palestinians, too.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
4 months ago

It’s a “buy” signal for options on condos in Boca, and real estate in Great Neck, Scarsdale, Newton and West LA.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

Big Oil doesn’t want a shooting war in MENA.

Why not? Best case, the market for gasoline/diesel is relatively inelastic, and they sell the same quantity, at a higher price and higher spread, particularly when local refineries are no longer options. Worst case, fuel turns out to be elastic, so they sell less at a higher price. At a certain point, they sell enough less that they can shut down refineries and lay off workers.

What’s the down side to them?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

Local refineries = MENA refineries.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

Cut the horseshit, son. I’ve got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode. Because their entire infrastructure is vulnerable. Pipelines, refineries, depots, storage, tanker cars, ships, headquarters, laboratories, and personnel. Anywhere in the world. You cannot sell what you don’t have. You cannot achieve your personal goals if you and your family are dead. With a wholesale shooting war in MENA, which would be global, you are exposed… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

They never have praised world stability. Big Oil never made out as well as when the wells in Iran or SA or Venezuela were nationalized. A very close second was when Angola fell to the commies.

Like Rothschild is supposed to have said, “Buy when there’s blood in the streets.” Whether or not he said it, it is true.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

To get all X-files and Grassy Knoll about it – perhaps they need to move some Palestinian “activists” (i.e. terrorists) into position in the US, Eurodisneyland, or the 51st state (UK) to pull off some new 9-11 type shit. This rallies a certain type of neocon Boomer/Griller around the need to bomb Iran, Yemen, or other sand-based theme-parks. Everybody forgets about Ukraine and Joe Potato can deliver his 2024 victory speech from an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea, unless the elections are just cancelled outright. No I don’t really think this is it. It’s not that the neocons wouldn’t… Read more »

Z-Car
Z-Car
Reply to  Pozymandias
4 months ago

Due to their own history, the Irish are pro-Palestinian. Ireland was making pro Palestinian noise within the EU when this Gaza thing kicked off. Then came the Muslim migrant stabbing attack, and then anti-migrant riots out of nowhere, in a country with no history of such thing. Suddenly Ireland had no authority to criticize Israel, and, to my knowledge, they’ve quieted down. Interesting fact pattern and absolutely perfect timing.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pozymandias
4 months ago

I think that idea has a lot of strength; setting up razzia, raiding bases, (like they did with the poor Molochites before taking Jerusalem), and most especially, getting us to fight their wars for them. More likely than trying to colonize the New Covenant. I agree with Pozy more than my own far-fetched idea.. Setting up a false flag, like they did with former CIA bagman Osama bin Laden. from the web: “If Ukraine has been a proxy since the Geoffrey Pyatt days, then we’re looking at an old CIA policy of provoking Russia at its border and then accusing… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pozymandias
4 months ago

No, I think you’re more right than my own far-fetched idea. A false flag, like Junior pulled with his dad’s bagman in Afghanistan. Much, much more likely. Dragging us in to do the dirty work, getting their enemies to kill each other. from the web: “If Ukraine has been a proxy since the Geoffrey Pyatt days, then we’re looking at an old CIA policy of provoking Russia at its border and then accusing them of invasion. See Afghanistan 1979. Zbigniew Brzezinski, aka “Mika’s dad” was Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor. Saudi operatives were sent to Afghanistan to train the locals… Read more »

TinFoilFashionista
TinFoilFashionista
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Personally, I’m not mystified by that. “The best way to control the revolution is to create it,” right?

Lately, this approach has its limits. Considering that at least some of the IDF knew about the Oct 7 before it was underway, the precise mixture of bullies to victims inside the Israeli population might not be clear-cut.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

“Any good guesses on what this is *really* all about, anyone?” Netanyahu’s Zionist/Likud party seized control of the Israeli high court in September 2023, which had veto power over the legislature and was controlled by secular/globalist Jews. This seizure of power… basically a coup… was so unpopular that Israel was on the brink of civil war. IDF was splintering into factions. October 6 was Hamas’ attack. It was the best thing that could have happened for Netanyahu, perfectly timed to preserve the feuding Israeli government by uniting it against a common, external threat. A classic strategy of statecraft. Three days… Read more »

Z-Car
Z-Car
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Alzaebo, I think “you have said the actual truth,” to borrow a current phrase. I too have noticed this. Dialectic seems to be the name of the game. I don’t know what to make of it. Anytime I try and elaborate a theory of what’s happening it comes out so weird I stop myself. My working hypothesis, so far as I have one, is that there is an actual left (e.g. Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges) and an actual right (e.g. Pat Buchannan, guys on this board etc) These are real political positions, agree or disagree with the content.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Z-Car
4 months ago

I seriously agree. The Scofield evangicals were politicized, and given discount tv time to put their most ludicrous revival-tent acts up on the big stage, to diminish and discredit serious Christian scholarship and responsible, nationalistic Christianity in general. Now Palestinian claims are ignored. Just as Hamas was installed to counter the corrupt Palestinian Authority. ————- As a side note, Besa Institute asks, “why don’t the Arabs want these Arabs back?” (Even though most “Palestinians” are either foreign Arab farmworkers on Ottoman holdings, or Arab army soldiers who grabbed the homes of the indigenous and never left after 1948.) It’s because… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

“I just don’t know which set of liars to believe on any given day.”

None of them is what I usually go with.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Z-Car
4 months ago

No question Lauren Boebert is part of the fake astroturfed right

NeoSpartan
NeoSpartan
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

It’s pretty simple.

They have unlimited money.

It was going to happen anyway.

Much better for them to get ahead of it so it can be controlled. At least as far as they are able to control it.

honky tonk hero
honky tonk hero
4 months ago

He got his 15 minutes of flame.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  honky tonk hero
4 months ago

Ooooh, Slick burn.

Pozymandias
Reply to  honky tonk hero
4 months ago

Yeah, but what a fag!

David Wright
Member
Reply to  honky tonk hero
4 months ago

I’m not about to get in a heated argument with you on this.

Crowhouse
Crowhouse
Reply to  honky tonk hero
4 months ago

“A land without people for a people without a land” is Zionist propaganda.

RealityRules
RealityRules
4 months ago

To get back to the forest, great message that is highly relevant to our cause. Even though we are being dispossessed and persecuted, how do we, as individuals and as a group, project real strength? Step one is to put more emphasis, in word and in deed, on what we are doing to overcome our persecution and dispossession rather than complaining that it is happening and who is doing it. We have to do it as individuals and as collections of groups. We must identify and bolster what we have working for us through actions and assert our will against… Read more »

Mr. Burns
Mr. Burns
4 months ago

>”Antifa, with whom Mr. Bushnell was associated, is anti-Israel, so they have taken up the cause of Gaza. Despite claiming to be antifascist, the anarchist subculture is surprisingly antisemitic.” Has the Z-Man’s account been hijacked by Jews? I’m not defending Antifa. I’m referring to his unironic use of the words anti-Israel and antisemitic. He sounds like an actual Jew. In case you haven’t noticed the Jew is the enemy of the White race. >”It turns out that appeals to pity only work on those who see themselves as pitiful.” I have often thought that the White guilt and misplaced altruism… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Mr. Burns
4 months ago

I noticed something similar. Holocaustianity seems to be the ultimate celebration of pitifulness and yet its effectiveness, at least on whites, is overwhelming.

But the same rules that apply to other groups don’t apply to the most powerful group, I guess.

If a group can ruin your life for not applauding their play for sympathy then they play by different rules than the other groups.

sentry
sentry
4 months ago

i’ve seen a James Lindsay video where according to him, leftists believe js have climbed the stairs of white supremacy and are now at the top of the food chain. Apparently holocaust stories don’t work on them. Leftists also hate US army cause it bombs precious brown people, they want it weakened and stripped of finances, which is a death sentence to Israel. So every time Trump goes to js to campaign he tells them if you want to save Israel you need me. And Biden’s top donor is also Trump’s top donor, and according to max Blumenthal all he… Read more »

Stephanie
Stephanie
4 months ago

The timing seems suspicious. With “Joe Biden saying, “look we have a ceasefire in the works! LOOK!” in a desperate tone.

I hope it didn’t happen and they are efing with us, it’s AI, a benign psyop, a robot, lol, who knows. It’s too terrible for words for his family.

It is odd though with it being an American soldier and the timing and the ‘current download’ aspect of it.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Stephanie
4 months ago

Why aren’t Antifa associates screened out of the military recruitment process?
And why wasn’t someone capable of self-immolation – someone who no doubt harbors a GREAT MANY psychological pathologies – likewise screened out?
Rhetorical questions; I am fairly certain of the answer to both.
It’s all very alarming.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  rasqball
4 months ago

The only shocking aspect of this whole affair to me is that Bushnell wasn’t a general…

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Don’t discount a post-humous promotion. “Officer” is more or less “participation trophy” now as it stands.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

I immediately knew he wasn’t a general because he wasn’t wearing a dress.

BLT Classic
BLT Classic
4 months ago

The only type of these stunts that ever work is a targeted attack on a member of the elite.

Killing yourself or murdering a few peasants never seems to change things.

Its strange how all the violent types chose to repeat others failures. They probably don’t even know the name of Gavrilo Princip, the most wildly successful terrorist of all time. The man who singlehandly set in motion the complete destruction of his enemies’ empire and independence for his own country.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  BLT Classic
4 months ago

Well the truth is the people that do these things are crazy. My best guess is they want to commit suicide and also want attention. So they attach some political cause to their suicide, or they do a spree killing.

fakeemail
fakeemail
4 months ago

Why is the dissident Right shedding crocodile tears over Palestinians? Is the idea that anyone who fights Jews is the good guy? Or that Israeli knew/allowed the October 7th massacre to happen? Surely such a massacre of a thousand civilians calls for the flattening of an enemy, right?

Is Israel hated because it is a Jewish ethnostate or because it’s tied to USA/Western/globalist powers?

Genuinely curious about the thought process here. If peoples should have their own state, then shouldn’t Jews have Israel? And if there should be an Israel, should it not be in the middle east?

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

The Israelis don’t just have a state; They have a civilization. The Palestinians are just violent savages who build nothing but misery. Civilization cannot tolerate savagery from barbarians. Pacify them or push them into the sea if they cannot be pacified.

The morality is pretty straight-forward unless one is so blinkered as to take civilization for granted.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 months ago

Not really seeing your point here. From everything I’ve seen both sides are violent savages in this affair. In fact, Israel is worse because they had a veneer of civilization and are much more capable of wholesale death and destruction than the Palestinians are.

btp
Member
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 months ago

The Israelis have a civilization the same way the Aztecs had a civilization.

Left Coast Inmate
Left Coast Inmate
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

I think it’s a combination of associating all Jews with the likes of George Soros, associating enemies of the GAE as useful and maybe even ‘just’, and Iranian agitprop.

BLT Classic
BLT Classic
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

I support wildlife refuges for spotted owls, not tapeworms.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  BLT Classic
4 months ago

Re: the parasite metaphor, you do realize it’s the exact same metaphor that is used for unborn babies, right?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

“Is Israel hated because it is a Jewish ethnostate or because it’s tied to USA/Western/globalist powers?” Israel as an ethnostate has a deliberately engendered ambiguous status — call it Orwellian doublethink. On the one hand the Jews supposedly need their own state because the anti-semitic Europeans want to kill them. At the same time, Israel and the West see it as an outpost of Western civilization and values, umbilically tied to the Europe they fled (and a lot of Ashkenazi Isaelis keep their European passports just in case things don’t pan out in Eretz Israel. The Arabs certainly agree that… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

It’s the double standard from Jews in America/the West that irks us. Far left on most issues, from immigration to abortion, celebrate the “great replacement” and homosexuals preying on kids, abortion, subvert our legal system with lawfare, fund BLM and antifa and pull down statues of Robert E. Lee…but when it comes to Israel they turn into racial fascists!

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Jannie
4 months ago

In other news it is funny that no one is interested in finding out what was going on in the tunnels under the NYC HQ of Chabad isn’t it.

No investigation. Apparently it never happened.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

Noticing that Israel went scorched earth on not only the Palestinians, but also their own people in the ultimate freakout isn’t shedding crocodile tears about anyone.

Then seeing them act like weird middle-eastern barbaric idiots themselves, their soldiers, well they aren’t so separated from other desert tribes over there in people’s minds now. That’s all that has happened.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

“Is the idea that anyone who fights Jews is the good guy?” – Yes. Absolutely. That’s what they believe. Their rationale for this is that we’re there whether you like it or not, the entire state apparatus exists to serve Israel, therefore, we need to support their mortal enemies. I disagree with this strategy because it overthinks the situation. We should be taking a page from the blacks. Look at the outsized power the black communittayy has in out country. This is with an average IQ of what? 65? It’s because their brains are hard wired to say every morning… Read more »

BLT Classic
BLT Classic
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

“We should be taking a page from the blacks. Look at the outsized power the black communittayy has in out country”

Terrible example. The only reason for their importance is others acting on their behalf.

In fact, it exactly what is wrong with us. So many of our people refuse to do anything and patiently wait for some white knight on a horse to come save them.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  BLT Classic
4 months ago

Instead, lets project all of our anger into supporting an alien tribe 10 time zones away. Makes perfect sense! In the meantime our own are caught up in the lawfare system every f – ing day. With ZERO support. And ZERO advocacy. This is about nuts and bolts activism for your own, not pie in the sky political theory. It reminds me of the 10 tiered chess board that the MAGA people falsely believed in. Maybe Trump can learn it in his prison cell.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  BLT Classic
4 months ago

That’s not entirely true. Yes, blacks do not have primary agency. They don’t have the intellectual candlepower to conceptualize, plan and organize, even for their own good. On the other hand, when the Judeo-Puritans put the chauvinistic bits in the Hutus’ mouths, they pull in one direction like crazed Clydesdales on steroids, and the only way to stop them is to shoot them or herd them onto a freighter bound for the Dark Continent.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

I gave two examples not one. The Jewish do the same and they have more than enough candle power. Liberal democracy is very simple. If you’ve played Hungry Hippo you know how it works. Its not chess or even checkers. Its Hungry Hippo. It’s about me me me me, hit the lever, hit the lever over and over. That’s who wins. The only people who seem to understand this are either really stupid or really smart.

btp
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
4 months ago

Israel is hated because it is the ethnostate that both controls American foreign policy and because it is the expression of the ethnicity that has been at war with the Christian West for a couple thousand years.

The idea that “peoples” should have their own state is wrong. People who are not my enemies should have their own state.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  btp
4 months ago

There is no “Christian West”. It died in Flanders Fields. It’s only us. Not some civilizational superstructure that’s long gone. Here and now, in 2024, we are getting picked off one by one because of a distracted focus on abstract issues. Courthouse protesting. Legal defense. Etc. Those are the issues.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  btp
4 months ago

Wrong. Every people should have their own state and every member of that people should live in that state. Dismantle diversity.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
4 months ago

I debated adding a comment because it’s going to bring out my lack of compassion for these types of people. I felt nothing. I think my first words were, “wow, what a retard”.

Then again, if this is what it takes to remove these problematic people I say go for it. Now had he done what Citizen recommended and taken out Chuck Scummer, then that act would have garnered some admiration from me.

All this tells me is that my assertions of people on the left and their mental fitness are correct.

anon
anon
Reply to  Tired Citizen
4 months ago

In the movie “Patton” George C. Scott’s opening lines come to mind.

No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by letting the other poor bastard die for his country.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
4 months ago

a US Air Force member named Aaron Bushnell set himself on fire outside the Israel embassy to protest the war in Gaza.

That’s another thing that struck me: he was in the USAF; wonder how many other Antifa sympathizers there are in there? Guess it shouldn’t surprise me as the USAF is probably as woke-as-possible nowadays.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 months ago

I suspect the regime’s only problem with antifa in the ranks is that there aren’t enough of them

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 months ago

Someone below mentioned he looked gay. The USAF would give such a fellow full consideration these days, particularly one with proper political convictions. It is chilling, actually, given how many there likely are.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

The guy has (er, “had”…) “that look” – the one very often associated with the term “Spiteful Mutant.”
I’ve cavorted with a few. I know the “look” well.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2024/02/26/exp-aaron-bushnell-protest-usaf-air-force-israel-gaza-022611aseg2-cnni-us.cnn
Never, ever, buttoned down…

Mike
Mike
Reply to  rasqball
4 months ago

It’s a double warning sign, top button buttoned with no tie and collar buttons unbuttoned. Those people aren’t normal.

My Comment
My Comment
4 months ago

Aaron was about to be deployed to help the Israelis kill Arab civilians. I don’t agree with his action but people with a conscience have a hard time slaughtering children. So taking Z’s lesson we should cheer the winning Israelis for doing such a great job bombing hospitals and slaughtering women and children. Will his death increase awareness and concern? Well definitely not with people who celebrate the Israeli and USA military killing civilians. Maybe with others. I keep thinking back to the Jew Madeline Albright telling Leslie Stahl that they (Clinton administration) felt killing 500,000 kids by blockading prescriptions… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  My Comment
4 months ago

Frankly, given what I know about history, and the endemic nature of human atrocities and abominations, I can no longer get steamed up by them, even in the present. It’s not that I don’t care; I simply understand that people have done ghastly things for as long as anybody has been keeping score, and will be doing the same as long as we exist. Call it despairing fatalism.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Subsequent to the Buddhists of ’63, who you could say were successful at turning sentiment against Diem, there have been some other scattered self immolating protesters over the years. Most of them were quickly forgotten or barely remembered, and best as I can recall they all burned in “service” of a cause that failed. Every single one. I cannot recall one single self immolater who you could say helped make his cause successful. So you’d think that by now, it would be recognized that it’s not a winning move. I cannot recall a woman, a negro, or a mestizo ever… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

The people who control the media were largely against the Vietnam War, so the Buddhist monks were not memoryholed. Bushnell likely will be, though.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

I don’t see the connection. The monks were against Diem’s discrimination against Buddhists. And Diem got removed and then assassinated. US military involvement in Vietnam was in the future. Unless the media was making some non-existent connection.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Arshad Ali
4 months ago

There were many copycats after the original Diem protest, and the reason the later monks cited was the war. But, yeah, the OG was in protest of the maltreatment of Buddhists, which is something of a tradition for them.

As an aside, a conspiracy theory once widely believed was that JFK was assassinated as retaliation for Diem’s offing. Not a strong foundation there but it was a thing.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

And the grandma of today’s purple haired woman was there taking it all in. With the same reaction. “So brave.” That year Fawn Liebowitz was also killed in a kiln explosion. She happened to be writing her thesis on it prior to the explosion.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Most of them were quickly forgotten or barely remembered

Look. It really is very simple; if you wish to be remembered by Western audiences, don’t go about with a name like ‘Thick Kwang Duck’ – makes no sense. Can’t expect a fellow to remember that lot.

Get yourself ‘Westernified’ with a name like ‘John Smith’, or, for maximum memorability ‘Max Power’. Then immolate.

Silly monk.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 months ago

Or maybe Lawng Thik Dik. People might still be talking about him today.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

“Oh, c’mon, that shit’s funny, right there.”

How about “Laun Thik Wang”? Would that be OK?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

I was mistaken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Herz. She got a plaza in Berlin named after her.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

I think the Arab Spring was started by a Tunisian who set himself on fire. That fire burnt through Libya and is still burning in Syria. That’s not to say any good came of it, but the man’s action wasn’t insignificant.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

A Bhuddist need not worry about the consequences of suicide to the same degree as a Westerner (E.g., White, Christian). Right?
(Of course, based on his mug his associations, and his behavior, I suspect that this fellow was “substantially eff-headed,” if not completely “effed in the head.”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

You speak from the standpoint of rational calculation. I don’t think rational calculation enters the picture for people who burn themselves to death.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

It is certainly calculated. Every single case of political protest self immolation is calculated. Planned, prepared, placed, and timed.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Not to the extent that they actually think through the likelihood of their self-immolation actually accomplishing its aim.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
4 months ago

Well, I had no idea that Bushy set himself ablaze for the Abrahamic Desert War Thingy. So I’ll offer my bigoted opinion… About all I can say is this: he had a cause he cared for and paid (for an assumably secular, Godless person) the ultimate price for. I guess that’s something in today’s Mickey Mouse Value-Inverted world. But, that is really all I can say. And that is sparse praise – he committed a grave sin; and has not made an iota of difference. We all shall have forgotten his name in a week and moved onto the next… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 months ago

The worship of the brown and the black. The filthier and more backwards the better, is practically in the Nicene Creed of what he believed, which was fundamentalist leftism. It’s why they dump Somalians into Minneapolis and Maine. To cleanse those places of their whiteness.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Self-immolation simply is a more explicit sacrament to the God of Color.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Quite. And for such as Bushnell, Finkels are effectively white regardless of how functionally anti-white they really are. So, in his befogged mind, this is a two-fer–support the dusky saints and shunt opprobrium whitey’s way.

It’s hard to know which is uppermost with these race traitors–worship of the Other or hatred of the Same.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 months ago

“Successful political movements project strength and confidence, not weakness and self-pity.” – But it’s a religious movement. The politics are merely appendages of the underlying religion. The word “piety” was mentioned in the opening. This is a very loaded and meaningful word in describing what’s going on. Why would “piety” not be a dead word these days? It conjures visions of trappist monasteries. But in the inverted morality of 2024, should I say, Satanic morality? We worship death not life. Given what we know of this person from his online postings, he was an “anarchist,” whatever that means. But we… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
4 months ago

It’s a shame for him he didn’t understand that protest only ever works when you are protesting for/against something the elites already agree with you about. The protests just provide cover to the elite to do what they want to do with the excuse that it is what the public wants. Frankly, as much as I don’t really want to admit to myself, I think it’s hilarious this antifa scum offed himself and in the most painful way imaginable. In a better world he might not have been antifa scum, but in this world he was and deserved everything he… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

“Can we talk about Whites in South Africa?”

We can’t because as you mentioned, the only protest and free speech permitted is elite-approved, and white South Africans are not elite-approved.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Heh. Far from it!

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

I am a bit perplexed how any American can get themselves all worked up for the Palestinians. Who cares? Indeed. I wonder this Myself. Along with most narratives we’re fed by the MSM and other organs, when you think about it, they’re just junk you don’t really care for. Is stopped reading ‘The News’ when I forced Myself to ask two questions: Do I care? And if I do, is it true? Never got past the first one: Paper: Ice shelf breaks off because Climate Change. Me: Don’t care. BBC: Acid attacked on black teen in London. Me: Don’t care.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 months ago

OrangeFrog: I’m right there with you. I’m fast running out of things to read/watch online – because most of the time, I just don’t care. Climate – politics – various wars – meh. Totally uninterested. Self-described “elderly disabled single woman” living in a subsidized apartment wondering how to prep? Meh. I’m far more concerned about the survival of White children. The ‘best’ knife? I doubt I have ‘the best’ of much of anything – but what I have will suffice. I suppose I have, in many ways, retreated to a self-protective ‘bubble.’ But if I have no impact and no… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  3g4me
4 months ago

Although I would have no occasion to use these up here in the Ozarks, I can think of multiple uses back in DFW and elsewhere. Been debating getting a batch for the heck of it.
https://www.zerofuckscoin.com/products/scratch-dent-blemished-coin-10-pack-limited

david m rieck
david m rieck
4 months ago

I’m hoping this starts a trend among the Palestine sympathizers.

Compsci
Compsci
4 months ago

“Aaron Bushnell would have served his cause better if he went about punching Israelis in the nose. At least then he would have been seen as a threat …” No disagreement with today’s missive. However, I see Bushnell as a threat, or rather his *type* as a threat. To me, Bushnell represent’s the Left and their *will* to power. Imagine a hoard of Bushnells in power over you and yours. Does anyone think that such individuals who resort to “self-immolation” for “the cause” would hesitate to destroy you and yours in the most painful and cruel ways imaginable once in… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

The outliers like this guy certainly are dangerous, but he and others also pose a real threat to the Regime. For years, Clown World protected and sponsored these terrorists and they usually have complied with directives. But the Regime and Israel are in full alignment of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, and some of the dangerous pets have gone rogue on this issue. Expect more of this. There almost certainly will be an attempted Night of the Long Knives, which the Regime just as certainly will screw up and lose be forced into a truce with these types. The bottom… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

The anarcho part is selective. When they are opposing stuff the regime hates, they are the good guys and will be protected. When they oppose stuff the regime likes, they will be dealt with like any other scum.

Like imagine if they actually supported labor like they claim they do and opposed mass migration because of that support for labor. The regime would be busting them up and sentencing them to decades in prison just like they do to people who oppose it from the right.

They are what the communists used to call “useful idiots” and nothing more.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

Once the useful idiot becomes Full Bushnell, it is not like the white Deplorables who attend their court dates to be sent to the gulag. Yes, the actions are supposed to align with the Elite, but when they no longer do so and the person is suicidal, that’s a problem for TPTB.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

What threat do they pose to Clown World? Without counting on an Own Goal on the part of the Fearless Leader, I mean.

If they wanted to, they could spin this into commentary about how mentally unbalanced the .mil already is, and that it needs more DIE to fix it.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

The problem is the suicide part and their insertion throughout the military and elsewhere. The significance of the problem will depend on the number.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

As the Power Structure is further enriched with melanin, it will cease supporting Finkels and Israel. If this change occurs gradually, the Power Structure will remain fully intact–and anti-white–and only the Finkels and Isreal will suffer. If, on the other hand, the Finkels make some grandstand power play to try to retain control, the Power Structure could split and collapse. Who knows what might ensue then, but I think it would probably be good for our side.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Aye. Bushnell and that raving Google loon in charge of the recent anti-white AI fiasco are cut from the very same cloth. These people are deranged, they hate white people with incandescent fury, and they have a great deal of power. If that realization doesn’t sober you up, I don’t know what will.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
4 months ago

I must a did it wrong. I see a man giving the Establishment the ultimate middle finger. When people get this angry, or this hopeless… I close my mouth and open my ears. I want to know what drove them to it. People like this are capable of anything. I’d a had my gun out too.

I may get egged by the dissidents but I don’t care: being on the losing side doesn’t mean you’re on the wrong side. That notion should be lesson one in basic dissidence.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
4 months ago

If he really wanted to have an impact, he should’ve stolen some sensitive and secret information from the US gov showing some shady stuff the Israelis and or the Israeli/US gov have done in furthering the Israeli cause vis-a-vi their latest multi millennial blood feud and either posted it or hand it to a journalist. Honorable, brave, precedented, might have a real impact, and risky (therefore brave) as hell because he’d probably go to prison for a very long time. Executed, if AIPAC had any say. What he did instead was just an insane level of narcissism and “main character… Read more »

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 months ago

There was a guy who did that and they not only jailed him but also trannified him and made him suicidal and who knows where he is today. But one thing is for sure, he doesn’t cause them anymore problems.

Chad
Chad
4 months ago

The striking thing about the incident is that he actually killed himself for a belief in an age where that’s pretty much unthinkable. Usually the antifa types are around to terrorize the general population with the full backing of the police force. IMO they behave the way they do because they believe they are insulated from both physical danger and legal consequence. The whole point of virtue signaling is that you take proudly take positions that generally reward you in some way or at least have negligible cost. Burning yourself to death for foreigners while nowhere near the conflict nor… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Chad
4 months ago

Brilliant insight there. It is just narcissism fully manifested, maybe. But you are right, though, that this is a step beyond the usual cost-free virtue signaling that is normally the hallmark of Antifa and like groups, which up until now have been state-sponsored and protected terrorists. TPTB have encouraged anarcho-tyranny, but the problem for them is that some True Believers may freelance in ways not envisioned. For those types, incoherence has its own quality. I’m certain this has sent a few chills in the right direction, no matter how inadvertent that was. The DNC, for example, may be lit AF,… Read more »

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
4 months ago

Give a man a fire & he’ll be warm for the evening, set a man on fire & he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.

TomA
TomA
4 months ago

Bushnell’s protest was an attempt to sway public opinion by an extreme act of violence directed at himself. The underlying principle is that persuasion “works” and his final act would generate worldwide political pressure that induces Israel to change course and stop committing genocide against Palestinian civilians. A Buddhist monk famously did something similar during the Vietnam war and the associated photo was broadcast around the world instantly in the days before the internet. Most of the time, these sort of acts generate sympathy at the margin but rarely trigger a major change in events. An odd variant on this… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  TomA
4 months ago

Speaking of the Pali suicide bombers, has the number of those attacks dropped in a big way the last couple years? Maybe the Palis are beginning to civilize some. The settlers and IDF sure are trying to radicalize more and more of them though.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
4 months ago

As judge Napolitano points out (later in this video), the guy was about to be deployed to Gaza by US military on active duty. I think this needs to be taken into account in discussions about his action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFO_LsStmuA

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
4 months ago

Thanks, and yes, it does need to be taken into account. I was unaware of this myself.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
4 months ago

Wait, what?
Are we deploying to Gaza like we’re “not” deploying to Ukraine?

Or is it like American forces standing guard in Saudi Arabia?
(bin Laden’s supposed complaint)

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

There was a photo with SF soldiers standing around Joe Biden in Israel right after 0ct. 7. Maybe they’ve been there the whole time, flattening Gaza? (Ukraine too, both places do look scorched earth, flattened.)

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
4 months ago

Please check from timestamp 29:02 in the video

Maniac
Maniac
4 months ago

Who’s got the marshmallows?

Reziac
Reziac
4 months ago

As someone pointed out — being the underdog doesn’t automatically mean your cause is just.

Notably unjust underdogs include Robespierre, Lenin, and Obama.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Reziac
4 months ago

If those men were underdogs, none of us would know their names. Losers literally never win. They acted roles they were judged qualified to play. Robespierre was an agent of “the creditors of the state.” (The French Revolution might be the only true bankers’ war; see “assignats.”) Lenin was the hype man for a genocide of Slavs by “the West,” still ongoing. Obama of course belongs to intelligence. They were advertised as underdogs to their enemies because their enemies were Christians, who fall for that shit every time. To their supporters they embody extreme, perverse retribution—wild violence against the father… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Hemid
4 months ago

Losers also serve as examples…

Popcorn Enjoyer
Popcorn Enjoyer
4 months ago

Something I’ve noticed that dovetails more with Friday’s show than this piece: Prime is seemingly flooded (or I’m being flooded with) Russian films about the ‘Great Patriotic War’. As film, they are entertaining flush with action, special effects, good guys that cooperate with their comrades in struggle against the ebil nahtzees to get the girl (a decidedly feminine, non-stronk version, a stand-in for heart and home to have babies) . Zero diversity, unless you count Eurasians/Mongols as diverse. Aside from the insignias, mention of Lenin/Stalin/Communism is minimized. They are mostly dated late 2010s to 2020, i.e. after the 2014 coup… Read more »

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Popcorn Enjoyer
4 months ago

The Russians play chess, the Americans play poker. During the Cuba crises, the Russians were installing nuclear missiles in the American backyard and, appreciating this aspect, the Russians backed down when the Americans agreed to remove their own nuclear missiles from Turkey. Win win. As Ukraine unravels, there are no known Russian nukes near American borders except for those on Russian submarines. The Americans have ringed Russia with all sorts of offensive weaponry, including nukes, and support infrastructure within minutes of Russian metros. Why? The Americans need to apprehend, and I question whether they do, there is much less bluffing… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

“the Russians were installing nuclear missiles in the American backyard and, appreciating this aspect, the Russians backed down when the Americans agreed to remove their own nuclear missiles from Turkey.”

The Russians did this *because* the Americans were installing the missiles in Turkey.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

I’ve thought all along that nuclear war was at least possible if not probable given how sociopathic the Neocons are. As Ukraine draws to its predictable end, they will go even more balls to the wall. Maybe there are other Bushnells out there whose strategic thinking outweigh their narcissism? Let’s hope so.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  DaBears
4 months ago

America, and a feminized Europe tagging along, against Russia and China, with Iran thrown in for sport, is the most extremely unbalanced confrontation since WW2. They lead in nukes, missiles, industry, engineers, people, energy, natural resources,patents and R&D. Worst of all they lead in sanity. This is not a fair fight.

History is repeating itself: because of Frederic the Great and Bismarck/Moltke, Hitler thought there was some sort of natural law that said that German soldiers always win. Now because of the WW2 mythos GAE believes some historical law says America always wins.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

“Worst of all they lead in sanity. This is not a fair fight.”

Brilliant. Exactly. The United States is unhinged as is its vassal states.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

America won’t always win, because America won’t accept losses in a protracted, or even a short major war. We’ve been weaned off of that very basic fact for over a hundred years…yes WWII was the beginning of such casualty aversion, regardless of the movie depictions.

Vietnam lost over a million, yet 50k American deaths drove us out. I see nothing that has changed.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Maybe, but it was 50k for what? What difference does it make to Americans what form of government the Vietnamese live under?

I see that as one of the first major pushbacks against GAE. Got pissed away, sure, because morons like Bill Ayres alienated pretty much all of decent society with his methods.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

“America won’t always win, because America won’t accept losses in a protracted, or even a short major war.” Not in half-assed wars of choice. Remember that by the end, half the US army in Vietnam was in mutinous mood. The raison d’etre given for the involvement was the “domino theory” that held sway among the policy-making morons of that era — first Vietnam, the the Philippines, then Indonesia, and the final domino being Australia. And such an unnecessary war. Recall that Ho Chi Minh had made overtures to Eisenhower and Dulles, and was rebuffed. Just as Castro did. Looks like… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

I don’t think Hitler was entirely wrong. 1 on 1 the German soldier always won. Nothing in WW2 disproved that. The error was believing 1 German could always defeat 2 or 3 or 4 enemies.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

But it never was one on one was it? Germany lost, they were never going to beat Russia unless the could nuke the entire country.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Popcorn Enjoyer
4 months ago

Mosfilm has been restoring their Soviet-era films, starting with the 1967 epic War and Peace, which had practically ceased to exist in celluloid form. They did this without having any real idea how it could be monetized. Then YouTube came along and the state-owned studio gets a decent income from it (also available from Criterion on Blu-ray). Not up for a more than six-hour film? You might enjoy another Academy Award winner Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears.

Popcorn Enjoyer
Popcorn Enjoyer
Reply to  Gideon
4 months ago

Will explore.

The ones I’ve mentioned are clearly Western in pacing and character arcs.
The timing implies that Russia put out nostalgically patriotic war propaganda in preparation for the SMO and the possibility of larger scale war with the west.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Popcorn Enjoyer
4 months ago

“…nostalgically patriotic war propaganda in preparation for the SMO and the possibility of larger scale war with the West.” I’d put aside the GAE shades to get the most out of these films. They’re a window into other people’s lives. In major cities at least life was a bit austere and gray to be sure, but hardly one of 1984>/i>-esque depravation as we’re led to believe. The supermarket scene in Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears is a case in point: the shelves are not bare; but when an employee leaves a cart of cured meat in the aisle (not… Read more »

Dick Armey
Dick Armey
4 months ago

“Despite claiming to be antifascist, the anarchist subculture is surprisingly antisemitic.”

I was not aware that being fascist entails anti-semitism. Huh.

Also, it wasn’t a cop pointing the gun and moving in position to shoot Burning Man. It was embassy security. Israeli Embassy security. The EMTs are lucky they weren’t shot in the back by that coward.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Dick Armey
4 months ago

I was not aware that being fascist entails anti-semitism.

It does not have to, necessarily, though historically it does because of the strong nationalist character. Jews simply are not natives. Anywhere, with the possible exception of Israel. So, naturally, any nationalistic movement is going to have some degree of anti-semitic character. They are not us.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Dick Armey
4 months ago

“I was not aware that being fascist entails anti-semitism. Huh.”

I have always thought there was a correlation. One of the benefits of being a fascist state is being able to kick out the Jews.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Dick Armey
4 months ago

“I was not aware that being fascist entails anti-semitism.”

“Fascist” is usually an epithet earned by Gentiles who try to act like Jews.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
4 months ago

> Democratic politics are theater and self-pity makes for bad box office.

This is why the Trump mug shot was dynamite. There was no self-pity, fear, or otherwise in that face. It was pure defiance. The people will rally to an underdog fighter, but all that will be known of Aaron Bushnell in a few weeks will be a few tasteless memes. And that’s a good thing, since we don’t want a bunch of pathetic copycats killing themselves in odd ways.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

“since we don’t want a bunch of pathetic copycats killing themselves in odd way”

Really? It would be awesome if self-immolation became an Antifa trend.

Xman
Xman
4 months ago

-“Why should our sympathy have any role in determining the morality of the two parties in the conflict? Why are both sides appealing to our pity and sympathy rather than some other emotion?” An interesting and fundamental question. It’s really a reformulation of Nietzsche’s argument about the distinction between slave morality and master morality. By this logic we should always admire the stronger party. This is why the neo-con types are so zealously in favor of Israel — it projects strength and sophistication against the moronic “ragheads.” Of course this is the same view that Romans had of Christians —… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

The gods are the id, the pagan is the ego, Christianity and God are the superego. Iirc, Nietzsche speculated that the appeal of Christianity was in the self-denial and self-mastery of its adherents— an impressive feat to life-embracing pagans. Still, you can drive yourself nuts that way.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

I’m a little confused. Aren’t you arguing that he should have gone ahead an punched Zionists and let the system punish him for hate crimes?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

I’ve never understood why people dedicated to a cause commit suicide like this, i.e., only killing themselves.

If Bushnell was going to kill yourself, why didn’t he strap a bomb on himself and blow up an AIPAC meeting or kill Chuck Schumer. If you’re going to die, why not take out some of your opponents.

Ten Bushnells killing prominent American Zionists would put an end to this war in a matter of weeks.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

RamzPaul used Patton quote in his video this morning, “no b*stard ever won a war by dying for his country. You win by making the other b*stard die for his country.”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Barnard
4 months ago

Yeah, I thought of that too.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

I saw somewhere where he wanted it stressed that he was anti-Zionism and not an anti-Semite. Like, whatever, but it’s probably true since if he was an anti-Semite of some sort he would have known that he was taking an action that his enemy was fully in favor of. (That was the sentiment among many dissidents: sad that another White guy zogged out of his mind had to die).

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 months ago

As much as it’s a bit of a cop out, I get Z and other people’s point about what I would consider the true “antisemites.” There are people who truly obsess over Jews, elevating them to some mystic power. These people are no good to anybody. But I hate when people – like Z sometimes – lump those loons in with people – like me – who notice Jewish power and their position in society. Looking at Jews and Jewish power objectively is important. They are an opponent – by far the most important opponent – so studying their strengths… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Whenever my car starts acting up, to date, it’s never really turned out to be gremlins. There was always some physical cause for it. Gremlins may have been involved, maybe making the battery terminal corrode or something, but gremlins never turned out to be necessary to explain the problem.

Similarly, whenever my business has had problems, it turns out that I screwed up, usually from making the wrong decision because of information I did not have at the time. To date, so far as I know, it has never once been because of Jews manipulating something in the background.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

You’re either not smart enough or not a good enough writer to pull off what you’re trying to pull off.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

Holy cow! Gremlins are real?

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

We shouldn’t voluntarily give people power over us which they don’t even have, but also blame should be properly assigned. If you park your car on the street and you come out in the morning and it’s up on blocks with it’s tires gone you’ll have a “gremlin” come to mind that is to be blamed.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

@Sammich, We shouldn’t voluntarily give people power over us which they don’t even have, but also blame should be properly assigned.

Exactly! Knowing who (((they))) are, and what (they))) are like, what kind of idiot would voluntarily hand over that kind of control?

If you park your car on the street and you come out in the morning and it’s up on blocks with it’s tires gone…

Exactly. What kind of a moron would park his car there?

Why not get out to live with tribe while you still can?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

At some point, the window will close. Someone earlier said his plan was to head out and use his hunting and fishing skills, but the people already there think of those resources as theirs.

If you don’t get out in time, you are the invader. And will be dealt with appropriately.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Exactly so. Don’t think the enemy has not considered this, either. Bushnell likely was mentally ill and did not think this out, but it could prove a positive thing no matter how inadvertently.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

Whites like to think of war in an organized, state-approved way. We like an organized mess. But that’s not the kind of enemy that we face. Jews fight in a very different – and effective – manner. Stealth. Bribery. Blackmail. Etc. A great podcast is MartyrMade’s series on Epstein. Epstein is a fascinating character, but his journey shows how Jewish organizations, billionaires and the Mossad operate both here and abroad, often with approval of American intelligence agencies, which are owned. What you see is that organized Jews (the usual stupid caveat about “not all Jews are involved” which is true… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

There was no point to it, Citizen. The guy was insane and wanted to kill himself. (Naturally the Air Force employed him.)

But in an attention-whore society like the one we inhabit, this is a way you take yourself out. An especially pathetic variation on “death by cop.”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  ChrisZ
4 months ago

Yeah, he was just nuts. He would have killed himself for some bizarre reason sooner or later. If he actually cared about his cause instead of his one minute of fame, he would have done something far different.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Precisely. Had he merely killed himself in the usual way no one would have noticed, or cared, and he knew it. So instead, now we’re all talking about him.

He was just a very pathetic attention whore, and a stupid one. It’s sad to speak ill of the dead, but in this world observing norms of delicacy gets you nowhere, and might even encourage others to go down the same stupid, useless path. There’s no lesson in this episode except to show it scorn and derision.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

“I’ve never understood why people dedicated to a cause commit suicide like this, i.e., only killing themselves.” To answer your question briefly, it is because people don’t normally kill other people. Excepting sociopaths, deliberate killers are created by outside influences such as group pressure, military indoctrination*, or desperation. IMO, Airman Zippo lacked a powerful outside influence to kill others, so he opted for a grand display. To answer your question fully, I highly, highly recommend reading “On Killing” by David Grossman. It is a superb book explaining what factors it takes for one man to deliberately take the life of… Read more »

Greg Nikolic
4 months ago

The man was trying to imitate Gandhi and instead came across as Groucho Marx. An unreal act ends an unreal life. He attempted to cheat: using physical brutality as a shortcut to our heart strings. But in this world cheaters are repulsed as a matter of emotional self-preservation.

(To read more of my stuff, click on my name)

Epaminondas
Member
4 months ago

Bushnell is a depressing reminder of what our military is attracting these days. He was obviously emotionally unstable just to judge by the message he left behind. He lamented slavery, the Jim Crow south, and racism in general. Bushnell was the perfect product of our school system. And the military was happy to have him. I’m just guessing that this guy had some homosexual issues, as well. If this is the soldier of the future, we’re done.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

we’re done

Who’s this “we” kemosabe?
The imperial military can be made up of nothing but these unreliable guys as far as I’m concerned.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 months ago

Yes, it is win-win.

Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 months ago

I agree. It isn’t “our” military, nor “our” school system, and most emphatically not “our” country anymore. With GloboHomo Rainbow Legions, They, not “we” will be done and I will cheer.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 months ago

These unreliable people will be put in charge of the future gulag system.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Naaah. There will be an attempted Night of the Long Knives, which Clown World will fuck up and lose just as spectacularly as it does every conflict it enters now.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

I can’t wait for the Night of the Long Clowns Cluster F

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Night of the Long Dildos, rather.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Epimondas: My ‘gaydar’ was sounding like a klaxon when I read about his supposed background and saw his face. Media made a point of him coming from a ‘devout Christian’ family. Also saying he wanted to ‘transition’ out of the military (another hitherto useful word forever tainted by Klownworld). The guy seemed to me to be a closeted homosexual who couldn’t face his own proclivities and chose a ’cause’ as far from his own genetic and cultural roots as possible for which to ‘martyr’ himself. I also remember watching tv news reports when I was a kid about the Buddhists… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  3g4me
4 months ago

3g,

Spot on. Some commenter above posted a link to his picture. I took one look and thought: Gay as F***.

pantoufle
pantoufle
4 months ago

This must be the dumbest piece you have ever written. Those self-immolating Buddhist monks in Vietnam are still legendry, still revered. I have never heard of a serious person mocking them. Yes this young guy had a goofy face and associated with some goofy people (Antifa). This was a powerful act of protest. You know what I felt right off? Pride. Finally a white guy reached the level of the Vietnamese, who are awesome warriors, whether in khaki or saffron. There is a huge difference between committing suicide out of self-pity and defeat, versus falling on your sword in protest.… Read more »

Greg Nikolic
Reply to  pantoufle
4 months ago

But it wasn’t even his cause. At least the Vietnamese were protesting matters concerning Vietnam.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  pantoufle
4 months ago

Did it escape your notice that this “white guy” justified his act by pointing to the alleged past evils of his fellow whites?

I’d feel pride, perhaps, if he’d chosen to die in the cause of my people and not some brown foreigners.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  pantoufle
4 months ago

The guy was willing to die in a way far worse than bullets or lethal injection or nitrogen asphyxiation or whatever they are cooking up these days. And worse than hanging yourself in bedsheets if you get the dungeon treatment. IOW they had nothing to deter this guy

The willingness to suffer like that gives you a sort of shortlived mental superpower. What a damn waste of his one shot to do something dramatic

Steve
Steve
Reply to  pantoufle
4 months ago

Those self-immolating Buddhist monks in Vietnam are still legendry, still revered. I have never heard of a serious person mocking them. I think that was before I was born, but I definitely remember learning about it in the ’70s, and it was was not presented positively. More of, “See, this is why it’s a bad idea to let Moonies indoctrinate our kids.” And that was underscored by the Weather Underground blowing up shit, Jim Jones and his Kool-Aid Klan, and the SLA’s “brainwashing” of Patti Hearst. That was back when public school was still at least nominally supportive of the… Read more »

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  pantoufle
4 months ago

I do not disagree with your sentiment; Airman Zippo was an extremely dedicated person to choose death in the manner that he did.

But, the Vietnamese monks were made famous because of the striking photographs and video. An American protester did the exact same thing right outside McNamara’s office window…but no one remembers.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
4 months ago

It’s better to burn out than fade away.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Forever Templar
4 months ago

The words of a crazy old coot who faded away instead of burning out.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Barnard
4 months ago

Great musician who wrote great songs for longer than most rock stars. But still, the lyrics to “Cortez The Killer”…

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

And I know she’s living there
And she loves me to this day

KGB
KGB
4 months ago

He asked on X what a person would do if he “was alive during Jim Crow south?” To which I answer, “move there”.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

It isn’t true that there can’t be a modus vivendi with blacks as is often claimed here. But it does require giving up the idea of the same law for everyone. It is also far less cruel for blacks and I don’t “hate” them. Empirically we did have a working formula that also led to better outcomes for blacks. Now not at all

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
4 months ago

The other thing is that unlike respectable martyrs like that Buddhist Monk in Vietnam; the IT dweeb didn’t self-immolate for his own people but for foreigners.

That flayed any sliver of nobility from the act.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

While his own is in the greatest danger since the ice age.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

And it didn’t change a damned thing. The Buddhist monks committed self-immolation in 1963 — before the fake Tonkin incident in 1964. There was an American pacifist who committed self-immolation outside McNamara’s office in 1965. This was still at an early stage of American involvement.

The war only escalated after that, and the U.S. did not get out until 1973. Fat lot of good it did to burn yourself to death.

Frankly the Weathermen had a more effective strategy… (not that I would ever endorse it, of course).

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

“And it didn’t change a damned thing.”

The monks were protesting Diem’s anti-Buddhist policy. And it did have some impact as a factor in the Americans deciding to remove Diem. When dogs like Diem and Noriega don’t follow orders, they get removed.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

The Pentagon Papers, leaked in 1971 had a huge impact, however.

Your government REALLY doesn’t like having its dirty laundry aired for all to see.

This AirForce guy was clueless about how to have real potential impact.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

The monks weren’t respectable martyrs either, and they accomplished nothing. The best I can say is their ideology was less cringe.

Boris
4 months ago

“The unintended point he made is that when the Israelis say their enemy is insane and cannot be reasoned with…believe them.”

So are we to infer then that the Israelis and their accomplices who run most of everything are SANE and CAN be reasoned with? All of a sudden there seems to be a lotta love (and pity?) for those poor, defenseless holy-costed people. Maybe our esteemed host decided to write this piece so his payment process wouldn’t be further tampered with.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Boris
4 months ago

Don’t see that quote. Did Z edit it out?

If so, he was probably right to do so.

Boris
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

My bad. I meant to hit reply to this:

Hokkoda
on February 27, 2024 at 8:48 am said:
The unintended point he made is that when the Israelis say their enemy is insane and cannot be reasoned with…believe them.

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Boris
4 months ago

Well, as long as you’re putting words in my mouth, I guess you can say whatever you want. My point was far simpler. The Israelis are out there saying there can be no accommodation and that their enemy is insane and cannot be reasoned with. Then, out walks an insane person who has lost all reason and goes about lighting himself on fire. If the goal of the “protester” was to make Israel’s point, I think he did so. I think we can all agree that lighting yourself on fire is not a reasonable solution to any problem. If your… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
4 months ago

Try to imagine a black dude doing that. You can’t.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

Mr. Bushnell is black now.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

He’s wearing blackface.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

Richard Pryor? Michael Jackson?

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
4 months ago

Original founders of the Ignited Negro College Fund.

Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
4 months ago

I’ve been watching Yellowstone after scads of people had recommended it to me. There are some great performances, the scenery is amazing and it has some great themes for dissidents, such as the financialization of social capital, corporate greed, etc. But the line from it that I recall when I think of this mentally ill airman committing “revolutionary suicide” is this: “You know the thing about suicide, you don’t just kill yourself. You kill every memory of you. This’ll be all everyone remembers, Jamie. Every second you spent on this earth will be reduced to how you chose to leave… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
4 months ago

My country, come visit anytime…

usNthem
usNthem
4 months ago

Maybe some of those old 70’s and 80’s bands can dust themselves off and put on a really big old Live Aid concert for Gaza and the Palestinians – calling Bono…

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

It won’t happen because their payment processors such as they are involve amounts in the seven figures and the likes of Bono have no principles that require anything more than virtue signaling.

As to Z’s post, what’s not to like about an Antifa member self-immolating and drawing attention to the evil that is Our Greatest Ally? Win-win.