There Is Worse Than Hitler

If you have paid any attention to British politics, you will note that what passes for the political right in Britain is more feckless and ridiculous than what passes for the political right in the United States. It is one of those things that should be impossible, but once you look at the recent string of Prime Ministers, you have to accept it is reality, which means things will inevitably get worse in America. No matter how much you hate the Republicans, you will have reason to hate them more.

The Tories are facing what many predict could be a party ending election this year, as current polling has them winning just a handful of seats. The Tories currently have a 35% approval number, an all-time low. As a result, there is a movement afoot to wipe out the party entirely. The “zero seats” campaign started as a joke but as is often the case, this joke could turn out to be reality. Italy’s Five Star movement started as a gag and eventually overturned the political establishment.

Neema Parvini, also known as Academic Agent, has a post up explaining why the end of the Tory party would be a good result. His argument should be familiar, as it is the standard analysis you see in dissident circles. The system of competing parties that we call liberal democracy is just theater. Both parties are beholden to the same interests and most important, they agree on all of the big issues. In the case of Britain, Labour and the Tories are dance partners, not opponents.

Since voting for one team or the other ends up with the same result, there is no voting your way out of this problem. Sherlock Holmes famously said, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” This is where the Brits and the Americans are regarding their parties. Getting positive results at the ballot box is impossible as things stand. That leaves the list of alternatives that may seem improbable, but they are at least possible.

One of those options is to crater the false opposition. If the supporters of the false opposition walk away, that party will collapse. This then leaves the regime exposed, as it cannot use the controlled opposition as a fig leaf. Their choice then is to nakedly rule as tyrants, thus exposing the system as a fraud or allowing a new opposition to form up among the masses. They would pick the former, maybe creating a new fake opposition, but at least we would have clarity.

The opposition to this argument is that things would be worse if the current theater of democracy is destroyed. Instead of slowly easing over the edge into the abyss, we would speed into the abyss. This is the argument you see from Paul Gottfried in response to Parvini’s post. Working to make things worse, in order to provoke some sort of reaction, could very well end up with things getting worse, without provoking a reaction or getting an unanticipated reaction.

Gottfied uses the example of the German communists working with the Nazis to bring down the liberal Weimar government, because it is impossible to discuss anything without mentioning you know who. Fukuyama’s end of history idea was nonsense, but you could argue that for the collective West, history ended in 1933 when the Nazis seized control of the German state. Since then, every event has been recast as a replay or reworking of those events.

Putting that aside, the argument from Gottfried is familiar. No matter how terrible the right-wing party, it would be worse if they did not exist. Therefore, the only acceptable solution is to try and fix that party. That means voting for the most right-wing option in every primary unless he is a meanie, of course. Then you hope to get enough of these people in office to take control of the party, before they get comfortable with the riches heaped on them by the establishment.

This brings us back to Sherlock Holmes. History makes clear that it is impossible to infiltrate and take over an organization and make it conservative. There are no examples of this ever happening because it is impossible. Integral to the radical mind is “what we have we keep” which means they make a priority of preventing reactionary forces infiltrating their organizations. It is why they create controlled opposition in order to police the right facing walls of the regime.

This is why Parvini gets the better of this debate. He does the rational thing and eliminates the impossible. In Britain, as in America, there is no voting your way out of the problems of liberal democracy and there is no way to co-opt any party of the liberal democratic regime. Once these impossible options are eliminated, the only goal remaining is to topple the regime entirely. Throwing sand in the gears becomes the only moral choice when facing an implacably immoral system.

That leaves us with the abracadabra phrase “worse is worse” that Gottfried thinks is a kill shot in this debate. Since his preferred course has been the default course and the result has been things getting worse, what he is doing is offering a false dichotomy between the worsening reality of his approach and the terrifying but theoretical outcome he tries to conjure with references to Hitler. While Hitler is one possible future, it is not the only possible future or even a probable one.

Western people are like a hockey team down late in the third period. You can pull your goalie and put an extra skater on the ice, or you can play it straight. Maybe the other team commits a penalty or has a mental lapse. If you pull the goalie, things could get worse, but a loss is a loss, no matter the score. If you play it safe, you will probably lose, but again, a loss is a loss. The reason teams always pull the goalie is the possible trade-offs favor that option.

In the context of our politics, abandoning the establishment right is the same as pulling the goalie in that it opens the door to more good outcomes. It could so terrify the economic elite that they impose reform on the system. It could send the system into crisis and open the door for a real opposition. It could end up with Hitler, but is the death of the West by Hitler really any worse than its death by bad management? After all, death is death, no matter the cause.


If you like my work and wish to kick in a few bucks, you can buy me a beer. You can sign up for a SubscribeStar subscription and get some extra content. You can donate via PayPal. My crypto addresses are here for those who prefer that option. You can send gold bars to: Z Media LLC P.O. Box 432 Cockeysville, MD 21030-0432. Thank you for your support!


Promotions: Good Svffer is an online retailer partnering with several prolific content creators on the Dissident Right, both designing and producing a variety of merchandise including shirts, posters, and books. If you are looking for a way to let the world know you are one of us without letting the world know you are one one is us, then you should but a shirt with the Lagos Trading Company logo.

The Pepper Cave produces exotic peppers, pepper seeds and plants, hot sauce and seasonings. Their spice infused salts are a great add to the chili head spice armory, so if you are a griller, take you spice business to one of our guys.

Above Time Coffee Roasters are a small, dissident friendly company that roasts its own coffee and ships all over the country. They actually roast the beans themselves based on their own secret coffee magic. If you like coffee, buy it from these folks as they are great people who deserve your support.

Havamal Soap Works is the maker of natural, handmade soap and bath products. If you are looking to reduce the volume of man-made chemicals in your life, all-natural personal products are a good start.

Minter & Richter Designs makes high-quality, hand-made by one guy in Boston, titanium wedding rings for men and women and they are now offering readers a fifteen percent discount on purchases if you use this link. If you are headed to Boston, they are also offering my readers 20% off their 5-star rated Airbnb.  Just email them directly to book at sales@minterandrichterdesigns.com.


221 Comments
Most Voted
Newest Oldest
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Vinnyvrtte
Vinnyvrtte
1 month ago

“It could send the system into crisis and open the door for a real opposition. It could end up with Hitler, but is the death of the West by Hitler really any worse than its death by bad management? After all, death is death, no matter the cause.”

Been there… Trump.
Now what?

Hokkoda
Member
1 month ago

I’m always about 10 years ahead of my time. Back during the Romney 2012 debacle and even the 2010 sequestration fraud I was writing that the best way to move forward is to destroy the GOP. Drives me up the wall when the CivNats at places like CTH insist we have to co-opt the GOP. It’s never going to happen. The better play has always been a purge and a new party. There are millions of people who affiliate with “Democrats” who would vote for a MAGA agenda if they didn’t have to vote for those shtbag Republicans. I’ve been… Read more »

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
1 month ago

The dishonesty of the contemporary political system is a common theme for many of Z’s recent posts. The ruling class is lying about everything, be it Ukraine war, domestic economy or the benefits of limitless immigration. I think lying about money is one aspect preceding this utter corruption of the ruling class. Over the years, US dollar lost all ties with gold, and thus could be created infinitely without doing any honest work. So, the best way to get rich has been to stay as close to the money spigot, and then hide through lyimg the real purpose of creating… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
1 month ago

“What I expect instead is a massive financial crisis to be the real impetus for fixing the system.”

The WEF has this very plan. It isn’t even a question of “who,” though, and more of a “can” question, in the sense of “can the economic system be fixed?” My guess is the system cannot be fixed, WEF-style or otherwise, and the economic reckoning will usher in a new, brutish Dark Age. Nature’s solution will be a harsh one.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

The WEF plan is to use the financial crisis to tokenize everything, including legacy national currencies, and roll them into a global CBDC they control.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

This century so far has been about the conversion of *everything* into surveillance. Our nouveau hyper-rich are the men who’ve pioneered it. The future is terrible beyond even their psychotic imagining.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 month ago

Since I’m allegic to sports, especially foreign ones, I have no idea what “pulling the goalie” means.

What language is this? Jai-alai? Lacrosse? Footie?

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Either Yoruba or Igbo, but spoken in American southern accent.

Zman from US south picked them up during his extended stay in Lagos.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
1 month ago

But of course, Mr. Gottried. The Black Vikings invented ice sports atop Kilimanjaro, and the blue-eyed devil stole it from them!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

It is borrowed from Canuck.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Aha! I knew it might be an Old Norse variant of Curling!

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

It’s curling mixed with muay Thai in an Eskimo suit more or less

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

No, it’s hockey. Good God.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
1 month ago

In his defense, footie was also a good guess as pulling the goalie of sorts happens as well – usually when comes up to participate in a corner kick awarded to his team on the last play of the game. Actually saw a goalie score once on such a play to tie up the match.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
1 month ago

Back in the 90s, the Canadian version of the Republicans (the Progressive Conservative Party) collapsed. It was replaced with a coalition of two Center Right parties and business continued as usual. It is the liberal democratic system that is the problem, not any specific party. It will always be a system dominated by the highest bidders with the lowest ethical standards. Its politicians are a deplorable mixture of demagogue and prostitute. We are getting a good dose of that now. The GOP leadership’s top priorities are the continued funding of the insane Ukraine War and the re-authorization of FISA, the… Read more »

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 month ago

Collapsing the system could be fun, kinda like camping. As long every thing is resolved by my tee time on Tuesday, count me in.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 month ago

Precisely. I can hang in there without electricity for maybe a month, but after that I’m going to want my HVAC back and a nice hot shower, to be followed by a comforting Bach concerto and a glass of cognac. A Dark Age would be so gauche.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
1 month ago

I love watching election results with beer, the next UK and Irish elections will see some great scenes, lot of Tory clowns will lose their seats, the Irish elections will be similar, but the down side in Ireland is a lot of politicians are not standing again, so we a being denied the chance of voting them out. Kuntz

Mycale
Mycale
1 month ago

The fact is, “the right” is not the right, and it really is not an acceptable alternative to the left, because it is the left. I am done with controlled opposition/conservacuck/MIGA politicians. It is MAGA/America First or nothing. I just see no evidence that conservacucks who never conserve anything are better than just voting for the left. If you love unlimited open borders, you vote for the left. If you hate unlimited open borders, well don’t vote for the right, because they secretly love unlimited open borders and also cheer on Israel while it drops bombs on Gazan nurseries. It’s… Read more »

Vaari
Vaari
Reply to  Mycale
1 month ago

Pulling the goalie (in the NHL) works about 15% of the time, if you are one goal behind, so at least it gives you a chance to tie the game and potentially win in overtime. Sadly for us, the proper analogy is we are 3 goals down and it’s late in the game so the chances, even if we pull the goalie, are almost zero. However you will lose for sure if you do nothing so what the hell, give it a whirl! This is why Tom A is (unfortunately) correct in that there is no real solution to the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vaari
1 month ago

“… transferring a million people a year to a high carbon economy from low carbon economies even though this is supposedly our existential crisis.”

I just have to say, that is a pure gem, right there. Salut!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vaari
1 month ago

Before he decided to die on the hill of the Natural Rights fairy, Michael Anton had it right with “The Flight 93 Election,” which ended like its namesake.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Mycale
1 month ago

How often does a Hail Mary work? When it works, it works.
They also sometimes pull the goalie on a delayed penalty.

Solothurn S18-1000
Solothurn S18-1000
1 month ago

– Regarding trying to fix the Tory and Republican parties: Imagine an old house. The foundation is cracked, the roof is leaking, there’s mold in the ductwork and basement, and nothing is up to code. Sure, you could try to fix it. Others have tried, and all failed, to handyman the house back into a liveable state. After a certain point the house is more trouble than it is worth. Sometimes the best thing that could happen to the house is a bulldozer so that something new can be built in its place. – Regarding the Tory and Republican party… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Solothurn S18-1000
1 month ago

” am trying to get back in shape and lose a significant portion of weight. It sucks, my body hasn’t adjusted to less food and more exercise, so I’m always hungry, sore, and in a bad mood.”

Make sure you’re getting in enough protein. Baseline is one gram per pound of desired goal weight. I can say from personal experience being on top of the protein takes the edge off.

I know that ruins the analogy and whatnot, but that’s okay.

Pyrrhus
Pyrrhus
Reply to  Solothurn S18-1000
1 month ago

Yes, for those of us who have skin in the game, i.e. children and grandchildren, sacrifices now that are essential to assuring that they have a future are well worth it, regardless of the pain….

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Solothurn S18-1000
1 month ago

“There comes a time when a house has been so damaged by termites, that you must not only kill the termites, but demolish the house, and build again.” — Dr. Hippocrates Noah

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Disaffection with the “establishment” is hardly exclusive to the right. The only thing holding the leftist coalition together presently is TDS. Absent that, they’ll be doing some goalie pulling of their own. Isn’t it interesting that after decades of the DR’s failure to do so, the left has suddenly managed to make antisemitism edgy and cool. So it is already happening. Unlike Gottfried, and many of us on the right who are worried about holding on to what we have, they take what they have for granted, so there is no such fear of how things could get worse by… Read more »

The Greek
The Greek
1 month ago

When radical change is necessary, things getting worse is ALWAYS a possibility. This is what Gottfried doesn’t understand. You don’t have to go to mustache man, but of course, he does. Some other relevant examples: When the USSR collapsed, Russia went through terrible poverty and malaise in the 90’s. It had to go through this to get to the other side stronger. Gottfried in USSR circa1989 would have said, “let’s try to fix this system, because worse is worse.” In the American revolution, the colonies could have endlessly petitioned the king and hoped for a better deal, but they likely… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 month ago

What might be good for Britain might be very terrible for the US. For example, the current Regime here is endorsing the squatter’s movement of illegals seizing homes from owners (often waiting till the owners run an errand or even just swarming in and throwing the owners out). This is not just happening in middle class areas but the Hollywood Hills, the house next to LeBron’s has been seized this way. DeSantis got Florida to pass a law against this, with the Regime upset at the action and promising counter-action. Britain is small. It has Hindus vs. Muslims in its… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Whiskey
1 month ago

I’ve always thought that Europe (especially UK) is way more screwed than America (and Canada) long term. Here are my reasons: – low fertility migrants, majority non- Islamic. In Canada migrants now have lower birth rates than whites . Hispanics drop over time too in the US – higher concentration of Christian conservative communities means increased power centers and control outside of the feds / mainstream culture – higher skepticism towards foreigners. Not necessarily outright hostility but there is less naivete. Much higher concentration of Bad white / MAGA / disaggreableness genes or whatever you want to call it. –… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  B125
1 month ago

I largely agree with you. Unfortunately, though, so does the Regime. Hence, we see in Dirt areas the proliferation of Colony Ridges to act as Fort Apaches. I don’t think these will work out, mind you, and the invaders eventually will flow to Blue hives with more welfare benefits (the original magnet to come at all). But in the interim, those outposts could make things very nasty. I have not given up fully on the United Kingdom, but the window is closing fast to stop what you mentioned. Whether the native Brits win or lose, the lesson will not be… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  B125
1 month ago

The way I see it, America vs. Europe is basically the difference between turning up the heat on the frog slowly (America) or quickly (Europe). Except the European citizens are too enfeebled to hop out of the boiling pot. The speed at which these countries have transformed – and this includes Canada and Australia – is just mind-blowing to me. Germany has functionally been changed forever because of, like, 2 years of mass migrant invasions. This tells me that the GAE kept Europe as, well, Europe as a conscious decision and then decided it wasn’t necessary anymore. Most likely, like… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mycale
1 month ago

“…the changeover happened with the end of the cold war. ”

The Cold War never ended.

The Wall fell, but the asset stripping and NATO expansion began right away. We’re 33 years into the next 50 years of the Cold War.

Since I agree with Mycale- “Europe was good for opposing the USSR”- I don’t know how to square this circle, other than to say the bad guys won?

Or perhaps, moved. Won the West and lost the USSR?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 month ago

“One may dislike Hitler’s system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as indomitable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations.”

Churchill, whom I am told is the instigator of WW2

Indomintable champion of his people

Danny
Danny
1 month ago

The ending of this post is interesting as it is related to a sport. As there is much ridicule of “sportsball” in certain circles, the author wraps up the topic with a sports analogy. It is a circle then – sportsball, the opiate of the masses and a much ridiculed activity, directly figures in to the political discussion.

Interesting … oh wait – ice hockey is “sports puck” isn’t it?

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Danny
1 month ago

It’s entirely possible to employ sports metaphors without endorsing watching the sport. One might, for example, use the phrase “constantly facing third and eight,” to denote perenially facing difficult situations, without advocating for watching football. Z-man’s use of a hockey metaphor is quite apt in this situation.

Danny
Danny
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

Who said he was endorsing watching the sport? The endorsement is using sport as an analogy.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Danny
1 month ago

Get the puck outta here.

Danny
Danny
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

Puck you and the skates you slid in on.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Disregarding what would come next, GOP Zero Seats would at least create some form of accountability. At the moment, no one knows who’s in charge. Now, we all know that the real rulers are behind the scenes, but the public doesn’t even know which of their actors are pretending to be in charge. Even Putin alluded to this. They don’t know who to call. Both acting groups blame each other. GOP Zero Seats would be the first step in allowing the public to point a finger at someone or some party and say, “Those guys are supposed to be in… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

There’s a very high chance no one is in charge. As an example, we see this with China policy. Just last week, there was jingoistic saber rattling followed a few days later by Janet Yellen getting drunk with the CCP brass in Beijing. The factions seem to be jockeying constantly with no one having the upper hand. That will end only with a Night of the Long Knives, which is coming. The subsequent mop-up operation could be horrific, and it will be quite unpleasant to say the least to have been a foot soldier for the losers. Laws, rules and… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 month ago

Yeah, there’s no coherent direction outside of hate whitey and open borders, but on everything else, things seem to jump one direction and then the next. You can see that with foreign policy. One faction wants to drop Ukraine (hell, drop Europe all together) and focus on China, while another faction won’t let go of Ukraine. That seems to be fight between the military and the neocons. On domestic policy, nobody seems to want to do much of anything. I think that our rulers are bored with running the country. Infrastructure, the border, tax policy, entitlements, healthcare, etc. Boring! Even… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

“You can see that with foreign policy. One faction wants to drop Ukraine (hell, drop Europe all together) and focus on China, while another faction won’t let go of Ukraine. That seems to be fight between the military and the neocons. On domestic policy, nobody seems to want to do much of anything. I think that our rulers are bored with running the country. Infrastructure, the border, tax policy, entitlements, healthcare, etc. Boring!” If we view the history of US governance since the 1960’s through a global Judaic lens, it amounts to an intra Jewish squabble about foreign policy. “We’re… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

We don’t really appreciate how shambolic things are, perhaps because the whiplash has become so commonplace it is largely ignored now. The Gangs of D.C. inevitably will come to loggerheads over China, and possibly over who controls energy and food. The Regime’s foot soldiers no longer have certitude about whose orders to follow, and in the near future some of them most likely will be offered up as sacrificial lambs to forestall open conflict among factions. It truly got dangerous when they decided to take their Mean Girls act to a nuclear power. When Putin said he doesn’t know who… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

“GOP Zero Seats would be the first step in allowing the public to point a finger at someone or some party and say, “Those guys are supposed to be in charge.” ”

It has the added advantage of giving the GOP the outcome they’ve obviously desired for decades on end.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 month ago

I’m coming to see the whole thing as a crisis of the middle class. Middle class is by definition mediocre, so I’m expecting the climax to be rather mediocre, too— neither overly tragic nor overly great. And maybe mediocrity is the crux of it. There’s a yearning for Rome’s collapse, for Covid to have been the Black Death, for America to have been Rome, for God’s holiness, a reckoning of Good and Evil, etc. The Puritan ethic, right? Its success has been to make us all more mediocre, to make life more tedious, to make the times more forgettable. People… Read more »

RedBeard
RedBeard
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

One of the most astute observations I’ve seen on these times. I’m constantly trying to see the big picture through a lot of the doom and gloom our older colleagues constantly espouse. Speaking of Rome collapsing lets remember this was also the time of St. Patrick.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

I think it is time to ditch controlled opposition. Unless normie realizes that it’s a regime, not a republic, nothing good will happen. Regime awareness, regime awareness. Put their legitimacy on a clock and let it run out as fast as possible

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

I try to work the word “regime” into the conversation whenever possible, not putting a special emphasis on it, just trying to make it seem normal. Which sort of nonplusses people. Both communists and con republic conservatives.

steve w
steve w
Reply to  Major Hoople
1 month ago

I like saying “the ruling junta”. That really gets ’em worked up.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Major Hoople
1 month ago

Excellent ideas both

Geo. Orwell
Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

“In Britain, as in America, there is no voting your way out of the problems of liberal democracy and there is no way to co-opt any party of the liberal democratic regime.” Let’s remind ourselves that this situation can only exacerbate, on account of endless imports from non-white nations. The demographic inevitabilities practically settle the matter for us. As Zman mentioned in one of his interviews earlier this week, we *will* become a populous, geographically vast, majority-minority society in The Nation Below Canada, and no such society has ever discovered how to make that work… but we know how it… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

How do we feel about the death of Orenthal James Simpson?

In his defense, he did send both a j00 and a mμdsh@rk straight to hell.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
1 month ago

I hope that both Nicole and Ron are waiting for him in hell.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Bourbon
1 month ago

It’s unfortunate timing that his death has overshadowed the death of the great Akebono

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Bourbon
1 month ago

He was mocked as the exemplary modern house negro during his Hertz mascot days and totally disdained by the black public—until he killed his blonde wife. When people talk about the ’90s as a period of racial conciliation, they ignore many things. My white friends in LA back then all became incredibly racist, basically because they were too poor to live in the hills. Eventually they all fled the city to restore their souls. If you never see black people, you don’t have to keep that hate in your heart, right? You can hate poor white people instead, like Jesus… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Brilliant comment. Will we see a monument dedicated to OJ at some point?

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Perhaps they will make a triple monument with OJ brandishing a knife and chasing his wife and her boyfriend through the airport to get to the rental car counter. It certainly beats another giant mural of St. Floyd.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Next to the MLK one, no doubt. Justice!!

Pozymandias
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Who would Jesus hate? WWJH? I like it. I’ll take a bumper sticker of that.

heymrguda
heymrguda
1 month ago

Well stated and passionately argued, Z. I always hoped Pat Buchanan would have written something like this before his retirement. With his fame and exposure it could have changed some minds, perhaps but he was too wedded to the past to consider it.

thesouthwasrght
thesouthwasrght
1 month ago

Here in Lincoln’s Land just look at how quickly both parties worked to destroy the Tea Party back when it sprang up due to obamacare. And they did. Also, once the GOP had full control they did not a damned thing to get rid of it due to all they loot they all get from their Frankenstein.
Running out of track is about the only option left.

trackback
1 month ago

[…] ZMan is fed up. […]

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
1 month ago

Send all the Tory politicians as soldiers to the front in Ukraine.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 month ago

A decision to pull the goalie depends on what the loss represents. The goalie is more likely to stay in place with a routine game, and more likely to be pulled if a championship rides on the outcome. As things stand at the moment, the main threat from a political loss is increased totalitarianism. People therefore continue to play by the standard rules. We see sorting and separation now, but that is simply an awareness that a loss may result in more tyranny and a desire to be as distant as possible from it. Britain for all intents and purposes… Read more »

Beef Brisket
Beef Brisket
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

“ Britain may offer some clues because backs there soon will be against the wall.”

Personally I think the first western nation to crack will be France. Their demographics vs country size is the worst of all.

They are one unpredictable riot away. One day their will be enough agitators that the government will fall and likely beheaded

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Beef Brisket
1 month ago

Sweden and the Netherleands are in pretty rough shape, too, with Germany perhaps not too far behind.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Beef Brisket
1 month ago

The French Clouds would be forced to respond to Muslims threatening to take their land and wealth, no? If the Islamists are not co-opted, wouldn’t the Clouds be forced either to submit or engage in civil war? I agree there is more opportunity in France for the Muslims to carve out their own state–that kind of has happened–but I don’t think the Clouds there will lay down if actually threatened.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Beef Brisket
1 month ago

France should be the target of any mindful raider. Take France, and one’s supply of nuclear material is assured. Voltaire(dot)net says: “Voloymyr Zelensky announced at the annual Munich Security Conference that he would challenge the Budapest Memorandum* in order to rearm his country with nuclear weapons. *(1994 nuclear disarmament deal) Five days later, on February 24, 2022, Russia launched its special operation against the Kiev government to implement Resolution 2202. Its top priority was to seize Ukraine’s secret and illegal reserves of enriched uranium. After eight days of fighting, the civilian nuclear power plant at Zaporijjia was occupied by the Russian army.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

*for clarity, please also note that I consider Muslim arms to be proxies of the Semitic power, just as I consider Islam to be the Judaic Reformation.

Just as there is no real separation of Russia and the West, there is no real separation of the Semitic culture; the internal labels may change, but demographic blocs are what are contending for territory.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

I hope our goalie is Wayne Gretzky, Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull all rolled into one terrifyingly unstoppable force. May his stick be a lightning bolt and the puck an endlessly replenished plutonium charge.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Toss in Gordie’s sons and Lindros for good measure. Can’t be too careful.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

As a former sportspuck fan and occasional pedant, it’s weird seeing you guys associate all-time great power forwards with the goalie position.

I’ll stop now.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

We need Biily Stemhavolichski.

TempoNick
TempoNick
1 month ago

“The “zero seats” campaign started as a joke but as is often the case, this joke could turn out to be reality. Italy’s Five Star movement started as a gag and eventually overturned the political establishment.” See: Volodimir Green (Zelenskyy) “The system of competing parties that we call liberal democracy is just theater. Both parties are beholden to the same interests and most important, they agree on all of the big issues.” This is a feature of having a permanent government in DC. Remember when Trump was getting impeached how Ukro-Khazarian Minister of Defense (((Aleksandar Vindman))) thought Trump deserved impeachment… Read more »

Tars Tarkus
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

“They have been ignoring the will of the American people for far too long and this is not sustainable.” Says who? Nobody cares what the masses think on any subject. Obviously, they put a lot of effort into managing what a portion of the masses think. But that just makes it a bit easier and provides opportunity for making money (an elite jobs program). A large majority of Americans now say the border is a major issue for them. Yet, this has had no impact whatsoever on border policy. If anything, they are making it worse just to spite us.… Read more »

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

They have been ignoring the will of the American people for far too long and this is not sustainable.

Here, we disagree. Westerners will always do the right thing after all other possibilities have been exhausted. TPTB have an advance peek at the future with enough time to trade and position on the information before anybody else. You cannot defeat this except by waiting for implosion which, given the quantum leap in IT, will likely never occur.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DaBears
1 month ago

Perhaps there is a hole in the IT/AI Death Star.

Chips. All semiconductor chips in the world depend on the combo of two companies- Zeiss in Germany and Dutch ASML.

Without them, nanoscale chip development will not happen. Anywhere. Even the Chinese are unable to duplicate what they do.

So, when it comes to Blackrock’s Aladdin, AI trend graphing, and robot factories (China’s can pump out a luxury EV every 76 seconds) to replace the smart White component, perhaps we have a chance to avoid being completely Kalergi’ed.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

The empire needs to go straight to Hell. And with it, any need for a “sophisticated,” far-reaching gubmint.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

“And with it, any need for a “sophisticated,” far-reaching gubmint.”

I don’t see how that would realistically work. Life is simply too complicated today. Foreign countries would take advantage of the chaotic situation in agriculture, trade and any number of little nuances where we need their expertise to protect us from the rest of the world. The trick is to keep their power in check.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Up vote for “The trick is to keep their power in check.” For that to happen, finance must be subordinate to the government as it is in China. In the West, finance is a horizontal layer freely abusing the other layers. That would mean the Democrat party would have to return to its racist ways and union base. Once it was taken over by a foreign element, prosperous working class union towns were crushed by corporate aquisition, and white women were offered up as booty to open borders. The Republican choir sang sweet lullabies in tune. That would also presume… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

edit: China’s vertical hybrid system
(the State as opposed to a government-for-hire)

The Real Bill
The Real Bill
1 month ago

What the current ruling elites have to offer— prestige, power, fame, wealth, influence, and all the personal benefits that derive from them— is attractive enough to co-opt most politicians, regardless of the ideology which they believed-in when they fiirst arrived. Thus we find ourselves in the present state of affairs: where the ‘two parties’ are indistinguishable except for details. Hard to see what could change this, aside from systemic collapse. How likely is that? Hard to say…. But there are definitely better and worse places to be, when/if it should occur. So it would seem that the first step for… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  The Real Bill
1 month ago

Maybe one of the locals can teach him to hunt possums. 😂

The Real Bill
The Real Bill
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Hopefully it never comes to that.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 month ago

In short Paul Gottfried has his hands bound by the same fear that all of the, “Conservative”, establishment does. Their objective is to preserve the system – the legal regime and above all the rules of the gentleman’s debating club. What they won’t do is abandon the rules because then the system would be over. However, that proves that they need to abandon the rules. For if they abandon the rules and the system ends what does that tell you? It tells you that the other side has already abandoned the rules, and thus you don’t have the system since… Read more »

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
Reply to  RealityRules
1 month ago

This is it right here. This whole debate as framed by Gottfried ignores that our opponents are not not meeting us on fair and equal terms. They already view the situation as a ‘free fire zone’ while Con Inc is writing convoluted ROE to both somehow fix and maintain the system all at the same time. The already have the homefield advantage with nearly all institutional and cultural positions stacked; the only action forward is guerilla tactics.

Beef Brisket
Beef Brisket
1 month ago

At what point do you hold the right’s voters responsible for the ineffectiveness of the right throughout the West?

If one politician betrays the voter, that a bad politician. But if betrayal is the norm, and the betrayal is never punished, the fault lies with the voting base.

Beef Brisket
Beef Brisket
1 month ago

“ Putting that aside, the argument from Gottfried is familiar. No matter how terrible the right-wing party, it would be worse if they did not exist.”

I am a contrarian here. I think if the useless right we have had since WW2 never existed, the left would never have felt the need to flood our homelands with new voters to tip the scales in their favor. The left would have become sclerotic and boring just like the late stage Soviet Union.

The right gave just enough challenge, to motivate the left to destroy everything.

DaBears
DaBears
1 month ago

After we sweep the establishment from power, who and what is going to replace them? The plan, Stan? Step one, operation power sweep, step two … ?, step three, good governance.

Me neither. I don’t know. History is failure all the way down. We have met the enemy and they is us, Pogo. Time to implant the brain chips and crank up the skynet AI.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  DaBears
1 month ago

This follows on a post from last week about the future of conservatism. Post-Trump, the Republican Party is likely to morph into a “Judeochristian” nationalist party along the lines advocated by Yoram Hazony. His deracinated nationalist conservatism is the best funded and best organized of the alternatives, and is also the most compatible with the southern and midwestern evangelicals who dominate the party offices and infrastructure. In practice it will function much like the Buckleyite conservatism it replaces, meaning it will be efficient at gatekeeping and not much else. Rhetorically, it will be less libertarian and less Catholic, effectively cutting… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 month ago

Zman invokes Sherlock Holmes, but I think John Nash can help here too. “Integral to the radical mind is “what we have we keep” which means they make a priority of preventing reactionary forces infiltrating their organizations. It is why they create controlled opposition in order to police the right facing walls of the regime.” I don’t think this is “controlled opposition” so much as it’s Nash Equilibrium cooperative competition. Rather than let anyone outside the system threaten it, they basically form a coalition against any usurpers. It makes perfect sense, so we get the Uniparty. The problem with trying… Read more »

TBC
TBC
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Rather than let anyone outside the system threaten it, they basically form a coalition against any usurpers. It makes perfect sense, so we get the Uniparty.

I spent a long time in federal government, close enough to the politicians to see how the sausage was actually made. I learned that one thing unites all major parties: preventing anyone outside conventional retail politics from getting inside the tent. It is very much a uniparty.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
1 month ago

With only reading the title of this post, my mind went directly to the current situation in USSA

The body count for the cloud people,(I won’t call them “Elite”; there is nothing elite about them), will be much higher than Mustache Man. The Covid Hoax alone will eventually claim millions.

And this country has its very own Gestapo, in the form of a certain 3 letter agency.

So yeah, it can be much worse, and will get worser.

Now, on to the post…

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 month ago

It’s arguable that the (((Sackler))) genocide alone has already claimed more lives than the mustache man’s holocaust

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

According to the lawsuits, the Sackler family knew their opioid product was addictive but deceived regulators and physicians into thinking it was not. What I wonder is, why did anyone believe the Sacklers? Any physician or regulator knew that opioids were addictive, period. A non-addictive one never existed and competent people would have known this on day one. The lazy and easily bamboozled regulators and physicians are just as guilty as the Sacklers. But the regulators and physicians cooperated with the lawyers to dogpile on the family to cover their own irresponsible complicity. And most of the guilty evaded responsibility… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

The Zero Seats video is awesome. Would love a GOP version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-x5yunHs5g

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

It has the ugly ring of truth when they say that they find the voters disgusting for voting for them. How can you respect a people who fall for the simplest of lies, the most obvious hoaxes – they despise their voters the same way strippers despise guys paying for a lap dances, they hate that they have to demean themselves by pretending to like Brits.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Citizen – being the cynic I am, I too would love to see a GOP version – and that task shouldn’t be too hard what with low hanging fruit like… L Graham

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

That. Was. Spectacular.

As Cernovich blathers on about how Team R is going to blow it over Big Abortion, the reality is this:

Everyone hates the Republican Party, and the Republican Party hates its voters.

3g4me
3g4me
1 month ago

I’m all for total political disengagement. As I responded to Eloi the other day – of course there is no guarantee that tipping over the table will put an end to the rigged game. I don’t know of anyone here who has claimed this. Worse is no guarantee of better – but more of today’s evil will be darker than most imagine. Continuing to participate in the theater of voting, as if one actually has a voice and a choice, is to go gently into a very bad night. Continuing as we have been is to guarantee that the only… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

We are more likely to get a Mugabe than a Hitler (I should post that on my wall). To be clear, I don’t vote. I never have. I came to object via religious and libertarian beliefs, and, no, I am not one now; but Rand Paul is a great gateway drug for framing the problem in a manner outside the uniparty system. The problem with Z’s analogy of hockey is it supposes a set time frame (the 3rd quarter) with no possibility, removing overtime, of extension. I believe things will continue to get worse. I have far more contact with… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Eloi
1 month ago

Eloi: Thank you for so eloquently explaining your position. I largely agree with you – I, too, have no hope of ‘mass awakening’ or faith that Whites will somehow return to self respect and self confidence. If there is to be survival, it will be a remnant after a lot of blood. And I won’t be around to see it – but my sons and grandson will. I fully understand your desire to keep your family fed and safe at night as long as possible. I just think it won’t be possible sooner rather than later. I suppose I’d like… Read more »

WillS
WillS
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

History will be written by the winners.

jpb
jpb
Reply to  WillS
1 month ago

History will be written by the survivors.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Eloi
1 month ago

Eloi and 3g Thank you for expressing not defeatism, but REALISM. The good guys don’t always win and the superhero doesn’t always get the girl. America has been conquered, it is never being fixed, Whites are never regaining their homeland and as bad as it is now, it will be 100x worse in the next 10-20 years. There is no stopping it. For it to be stopped, great sacrifice would need to be made, and it’s not going to happen. Life is for living. There is nothing wrong with making the best of this life – enjoy family, your passions,… Read more »

Canned Horn
Canned Horn
Reply to  Eloi
1 month ago

“They will get so bad that the only thing that prevents full destruction is God’s intervention.“

This encapsulates why I want a non-Christian right.

You refuse to wield power, learn the practical rules of the world, stand up for yourself or fight back.

You are dependent on miracles to survive. Someone like you is a liability and not at ally. Also I don’t want you spreading your beliefs to make more people dependent on miracles.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
1 month ago

“ In the context of our politics, abandoning the establishment right is the same as pulling the goalie in that it opens the door to more good outcomes…” Yes, but that is terrible analogy. In hockey, when you’re down and the last minutes of the last period are ticking away… you pull the goalie, you put your power players on and one more for good measure. You get IN the game, not out. And you play to win. What our side is doing is packing up, going home and conceding the game. The power players on our side are guys… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Great comment. We can all fund activists and important voices like Z-man, for instance, if we don’t have the gigantic personalities and presence to be Achilles or Augustus ourselves. Every little bit helps.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Filthie: I know you’ve shared the tragic story of how your daughter was lost to sexual deviancy and wokism. But do you have other children whose future you are trying to protect? In theory, I applaud your call to action. Certainly, women got out of control because men permitted them to. But they also had help and encouragement and funding from ‘outside agitators.’ A populist mob stretching necks is a lovely vision, but reality is Joe and Jane Normal – content enough with their public school and mortgage and house full of cheap chinesium. You aren’t going to get what’s… Read more »

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I agree, 3g4me, but what then are we to do? Voting doesn’t work. Not voting doesn’t work. Revolution won’t work since we are outnumbered and out gunned. What’s left Sherlock? Quite elementary, my dear Watson. Separation. “When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  WCiv911
1 month ago

WCiv911: I only wish I knew. I am no leader, just an old lady with a smattering of hard-learned lessons. If any situation requires me to ‘bet’ on other people, experience has taught me not to depend on anyone (other than my husband and 1-2 genuine friends I wholeheartedly trust). But . . . I also have a genuine faith in God, and my experience of situations where He has created good out of what others intended for evil. I genuinely believe people ought not to put any faith, hope, trust, or participation in the system or ‘the people.’ What… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

“ I genuinely believe people ought not to put any faith, hope, trust, or participation in the system or ‘the people.’ What to do, what exactly comes next ? That’s up to better and wiser men.” There are certain fundamental truths/actions I believe are always of value, regardless of how “bad” things become or your stage in life or simply the end stage of this s**tshow. A quick thought: broadly, you can keep yourself *healthy*, *informed*, *independent*…. TomA has in the past commented here with many good ideas. There certainly are more readers can add. However, in any event, which… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  WCiv911
1 month ago

Separation will not be tolerated. See: Lavoy Finnicum.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Eloi
1 month ago

Or, even better, the Branch Davidians and the Weaver family.

WCiv910.5
WCiv910.5
Reply to  Eloi
1 month ago

Be like the Amish.

Separate. Relocate. Be apolitical and don’t vote except for your local leaders. Don’t talk to the media. It’s 1950, the Great Reset. Learn a trade. Localize your economy. Buy local. Avoid Amazon & Walmart. Home school or form your own local schools. Promote a strong sense of community. Square dances, softball, quilting, book clubs. Town hall meetings. Get to know and trust your neighbors. Worship together. Eat at Joe’s Diner, or the Chat & Chew, not MacDonalds.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  WCiv911
1 month ago

They won’t let you separate. They do not want you to be permitted to walk away. They will not be satisfied until you are dead. Even then, when the promised utopia never arrives, it will be blamed on the now dead Whites.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 month ago

The Power Structure is weakening, undermined by its irrationalist contradictions and the growing imcompetence of its architects. As this process moves apace, they will not be able to prevent separation.

As a man who is so angry that he desperately wants to strike a blow right now, I am nevertheless forced to admit to myself that the wisest faculty to cultivate is patience. Time is on our side. It may be the only thing on our side.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 month ago

@Ostei: I one hundred percent agree with this take. In fact, the scenario you are laying out is exactly the one unfolding. People are either too whitepilled and believe a revolution is near or too blackpilled to see what is unfolding. Your counsel to patience is wise. And, yes, it is frustrating since the time schedule is not determined by us. I even catch a hint here and there that some Regime elements are aware things are spinning out of their control. Picking up on that last, I close with my usual caveat that this also may all end in… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  WCiv911
1 month ago

There is no living with Leftists. That much is abundantly clear. They’ve destroyed everything decent and beautiful in the West and their malignancy seems only to batten on the destruction, not to be slaked. That being the case, here are the options:

1. Separation
2. Subjugation to Leftists
3. Extermination by Leftists
4. Mutual extermination

Of those options, the only one that is palatable, indeed desirable, is separation. We must plan and ultimately act accordingly.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I am always open to honest rebuke and correction, 3g. But I am not relying on faith alone. All I have to do is sit back and laugh and eat popcorn as the Regime shoots itself in the balls. The current status quo is untenable. Our regime is shot through with sexual degenerates, liars, thieves, and psychopaths. The institutions have been hijacked and produce more every day. The media, the schools, the military, the courts – all are vassals to a regime dominated by (((people))) that hate us but pose as our friends. They have been kicked out of every… Read more »

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Tragic. If Puccini, Verdi, or some of those guys were still around they could turn that story into an opera.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Filthie: I wholeheartedly agree – every dissident ought to be making contingency plans and putting aside what assets he can. Not relying on the government or corporate promises (social security, pensions, etc.) to be there 10-15 years down the road. We’ve just arranged to get more from my husband’s dwindling 401k – because even after the feds take their cut in taxes, and then tax it a 2nd time because it gets counted as income and may push us into a higher bracket – at least we can use it for our own needs and not wait and worry about… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Filthie: “We have to dismantle the systems that fail and build new ones.” The problem isn’t the systems. The problem is the psychological & sociological makeup of the human beings [aka the reptiles in human skin suits] which man the systems. Furthermore, the psychology & the sociology emanates from the literal ackshual DNA of the reptiles in human skin suits. Little boys are not having their penises lopped off [& little girls are not having radical mastectomies] because of any particular system; they’re being butchered because the butchers have EVIL DNA, and the butchers experience literal licentious lascivious bliss at… Read more »

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
1 month ago

“The problem is the psychological & sociological makeup of the human beings [aka the reptiles in human skin suits] which man the systems…”

Agreed. In fact I agree with everything you say. Our laws and systems are the best ever invented in the history of mankind.

We have a people problem and that is going to have to be dealt with at some point whether we win or lose the preliminary skirmishes. The current order will fall… we might want to have a say in whatever replaces it.

Tars Tarkus
Member
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

I agree with the general gist of what you are saying, except for this:

“The power players on our side are guys like Trump and Elon Musk…and our side throws more trash at them and boos and hisses at them louder than Lefty. ”

Both are more of the same centrist liberals. At best they are bailing wire and duct tape to the liberal project.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkus
1 month ago

Agreed TT… but they are a step forward, no matter how small. The alternatives from the other side will only generate more misery and loss for everyone and are quantifiable steps backward.

Recovery will not be swift… it will be a long and very painful slow process even if things go kinetic.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

By 1963 the “Greatest Generation” was middle-aged and firmly established in leadership positions throughout American Society. They watched the Deep State murder JFK in broad daylight and did absolutely nothing about it. So yes the chance of anything changing without complete collapse is extremely remote.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 month ago

They were the greatest at doing what they were told, whether that telling was coming from the draft board or from the warren commission

imbroglio
imbroglio
1 month ago

My view is that we have the Uniparty (Dems and non-Trump Pubs) and the MAGA party to throw a fit and dissolve after the election, leaving our one-party system to rule supreme.

Doug Casey has an interesting post on “The Forever War” on Lew Rockwell today: Islam slowly taking over Europe and then, possibly, the U.S. If you assume that the BRI and the BRIICS will be the new hegemon, even the Islamicized uniparty will end up being answerable to the incoming powers that be.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  imbroglio
1 month ago

Being a daily consumer of dissident media, I have been observing a seemingly sudden anti-Islam, and either explicitly or implicitly pro Israel sentiment, showing up in dissident media here in the last week or 2. Casey’s piece seems like part of it. Not to say that he’s wrong about the broad strokes. It’s the timing that I find interesting.

LFMayor
LFMayor
1 month ago

Incredibly timid, Z, and a recipe for assured failure. Don’t rock the sinking boat lest we get wet? Old Nick told us with chaos comes great opportunity and striking while leviathan is busy with a whole nest of hornets is ideal. Leviathan is going to crush some, so thin the odds and who dares wins.

You cannot fix the rigged game while playing it.

george 1
george 1
1 month ago

Great summation! It is why I come here.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

So what happens, if or when, the Deep State steals another election in November? Will this be the last straw? Once again to my bellwether indicator of normie psychosis, Dan Bongino. Dan is long on America as long as Trump wins (vote harder my homies); but if not, Dan is going to get pissed this time; which means every other word out of his mouth will be swearing and cursing. This is his solution to what ails us. Can you imagine storming the beach at Normandy with men of this ilk? Is this the best that our species can now… Read more »

Beef Brisket
Beef Brisket
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

“So what happens, if or when, the Deep State steals another election in November? Will this be the last straw?“

The only thing that will happen is “fed posting” and conservatives accusing each other of being feds.

Then they will eventually calm down and line up for another try at Lucy’s football in 2028

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Beef Brisket
1 month ago

I disagree. There will be some action related to soft secession, but that will be allowed mostly as a means of venting. And you can bet that a lot of ad hoc militia movements will arise; again, mostly just as an angry show of resistance, but a few may stir up some limited action. The latter will largely be instigated and managed by Stasi agents much as they did with the Jan 6th protests and Michigan governor kidnapping plot. Nothing of real significance can, or will, occur until the collapse is in full swing. That’s when rioting becomes a thing… Read more »

Mow Knowname
Mow Knowname
1 month ago

Trump started out as a gag.
Now look at the US: the Republic’s greatest hope is a failed casino operator who starred in a reality TV show.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Mow Knowname
1 month ago

> Trump started out as a gag.

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m still laughing.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Watching the progs melt down over his merely existing *is* pretty funny.

Beef Brisket
Beef Brisket
Reply to  Templar
1 month ago

Go ahead and keep laughing as Trump finks on his supporters, and the “progs” keep wracking up win after win despite their anger.

That you find all of this amusing is exactly why changing the goalie won’t work. The team is too dumb to ever win.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Mow Knowname
1 month ago

I never made $billions on failed projects.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
1 month ago

The Brits are the best canary in the coal mine for the West. If you want to see what will Europe will become in the next decade or so, look no farther than Londonistan.

And for those who want a resurgence of our Austrian Chancellor, one need only look at the new NATO Headquarters building. The obvious symbiology is hidden in plain sight, not once, but twice.

Coincidence? You decide.

https://mpliften.nl/en/referencias/new-nato-general-headquarters-in-brussels/

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 month ago

“The Brits are the best canary in the coal mine for the West.”

You took the towards from my mouth. Britain is leading the way here. The others, including Germany, are following behind.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 month ago

Sorry, “you took the words from my mouth.”

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 month ago

Not double thunderbolts but quadruple thunderbolts? Well, they are in Leon Degrelle’s old stomping ground.

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 month ago

“The obvious symbiology is hidden”. Sorry, that should read symbology.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 month ago

The architecture must have been inspired by Karl Schwab’s wardrobe.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Even if the Conservative party was ‘destroyed’, whatever came next, in my personal opinion, would still kowtow to the standard party lines. Even if say, a rejuvenated British National Party (BNP) replaced the Conservatives, wouldn’t they still sit on top of a bureaucracy staffed by Leftists and ‘Centrists’? I’m assuming in this case that ‘destruction’ of a party means that it has no seats whatsoever in government, and that it never will again. That’s all well and good, but in a world where large corporations are an extensions of government and where HMRC, the Police, the Armed Forces all have… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Or that guy could be Nigel Farage. Look what he accomplished with Brexit.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

I cannot knock what Farage did. He was instrumental in Brexit. But what really has happened? I’m not even sure what the legal standing of the UK is with respect to the EU anymore. In any case, I’d say that at least 80% of our MPs were pro-EU; plus the bureaucracy I mentioned above. The issue is that, even if a controlled-opposition figure like Farage does appear, we’ll still be in the same boat! Same uncontrolled immigration; same lack of discussion of the dysfunction of non-white peoples in Western nations; same kowtowing to international interests; same amount (give or take)… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I definitely don’t think Farage was/is controlled opposition. He was a massive upset to the system. However, he hasn’t pressed his advantage since 2016: just rested on his laurels as if the referendum was the “end of history”, when in reality the hard work was just beginning.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

Maybe he wasn’t controlled op then, but maybe he is now? His “debanking” looks to me suspiciously like a publicity stunt.

Woodpecker
Woodpecker
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

Farage looked like ‘selected opposition’ to me. He had no ability to plan and no ability to organize, but he is amusing. The perfect figurehead for the BBC to shine their light of publicity on. The genius of establishment media is they get to pick their own opponents.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

Yes. How many POCs run major British cities? Who’s Scotland’s PM again? Don’t think his last name is Mac something 🤔

Marko
Marko
1 month ago

I’d be surprised if the Tories died. They’ll get “surprising support” from “interesting quarters” and “do better than expected” and since expectations are so poor, then anything better than elimination is “a vote of confidence” and thus our cucky cousins across the Pond are stuck with their awful democracy until the Monarchy is toppled by the new Sultanate sometime wound the year 2040.

XLOVELI
1 month ago

Hitler was only possible in Germany because the democratic framework was so young and so weak. The U.S., emboldened by its long history of successful elections, marks the oldest functioning democracy in the world. Democracy is IN THE BLOOD.

In his zeal to eliminate democracy, Zman makes the fundamental mistake of positing equal conditions. But if Nazi Germany was a pillow full of feathers, modern America is an anvil made of iron.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  XLOVELI
1 month ago

Yes, “our democracy” needs to be saved from all unelected dictators like Putin.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
1 month ago

I have seen no evidence that Putin’s election victory is any less credible than Biden’s. In fact, considering how obviously popular Putin is among the Russian people, it seems far more legitimate.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 month ago

I think (hope) PG was being sarcastic.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 month ago

Geez ! I thought everyone in this comment section knew that Putin got elected properly and tried some humor.

Today is definitely not the best day for Paul Gottfrieds, real and fake.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  XLOVELI
1 month ago

Democracy is in the blood of Anglo-Americans, who are a tiny part of the population today. Even the Germans (a huge portion of American whites) didn’t take to democracy until it was forced on them.

As to non-whites – the soon to be majority of this country’s population – democracy never was and never will be in their blood.

The US is already a country where the vast majority of people don’t have democracy in the blood. Take your Daily Wire propaganda elsewhere.

XLOVELI
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I still say the U.S. will absorb its newcomers and make them into Americans. I realize this is an unpopular position to take here on the Z Channel — there seems to be an unspoken orthodoxy here on a number of issues: Putin is good, the American “Empire” is in its death throes, et cetera. I disagree on almost all these counts. Let’s address them one by one. Putin is an ex-KGB agent. There was nothing good about the KGB, and the motivation to join such an organization is always suspect, based partly on a lust for power. Now, I… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  XLOVELI
1 month ago

I would take a unified, determined country of 125 million people, of whom 95%+ are of European descent, with a massive industrial base, over a multicultural shithole of 400 million people running on a paper economy. Look at what is going on the Red Sea. The USA, the global naval superpower, the protector of the world’s trade routes, is begging a bunch of guys living in tents to stop firing missiles at trade ships. The USA lost a proxy war in Syria and is losing a proxy war in Ukraine, and yet is still beating its chest. This is an… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  XLOVELI
1 month ago

An industrialized and united 125 million would kick this deindustrialized and deracinated 400 million’s ass every time and twice on Sunday

Lakelander
Lakelander
Reply to  XLOVELI
1 month ago

Putin actually fights for his people’s interests, I do not care what he did in his former life. I see no difference between the KGB and our 3 letter agencies currently. 400 million deracinated Whites and a whole lot of non-whites. I’m sure this mega-Brazil will be a cohesive, ascendant world power. The Red Army defeated the Germans and I wouldn’t describe defeating Japan as ‘handily’. To pretend that the US military can easily defeat a combined China/Russia force is laughable. You seem to still subscribe to the American Exceptionalism mythology. You’re either a troll or delusional. I award you… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lakelander
1 month ago

I award him five downvotes. Unfortunately, the platform allows only one…

Barnard
Barnard
1 month ago

Gottfried adds a comment on his column this morning: “Allow me to note that there is a critical difference between dealing with a do-nothing opposition to the Left and a woke totalitarian regime, which will immediately criminalize “hate speech” and go after opponents as criminals. Even a divided Left will try to crush any significant opposition and enjoy the assistance of the ideologically driven media in its efforts to monopolize power. It is ridiculous to pretend that what the current Left wants is to be able to “rotate” in office and then return rule to the loyal opposition. It wants… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

They already do all off the stuff Gottfried is warning about. They already arrest people for “hate speech” — they just arrested a bunch of EIGHTH-GRADERS for “hateful” online chat, for fuck’s sake:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/eighth-graders-charged-racist-group-chat-southwick-massachusetts/story?id=108123039#:~:text=Six%20Massachusetts%20eighth%20graders%20face,early%20morning%20hours%20of%20Feb.

They already have a de facto one-party state, nothing really changes whether you have a “D” or an “R” in office, you still get the same wars for Israel, the “civil rights” bureaucracy, and the MIC.

I like Paul’s writings but he is 40 years behind the times with that comment.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

I don’t vote for Congress, but no one is going to convince me having Democrats in control of state and local government is only marginally worse or makes no difference for my family. Even on the national level, as long as global finance is behind it all, the collapse of the Tories or the Republicans here just means another placeholder would spring up to take their place and we would keep going through the same charade just with the rachet moving to the left.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

It’s a question of scale. Sure they are already arresting people for wrongthink, but they aren’t (yet) arresting millions of people for wrongthink.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

And you really think the Republicans are what’s standing in the way of mass arrests?

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

There is no question that the alleged behavior in this case of these six juveniles is vile, cruel and contemptible,” Gulluni said. “Seeing it, and facing the reality that these thoughts, that this ugliness can exist within middle school students here in this community in 2024 is discouraging, unsettling and deeply frustrating.”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

Seeing behavior such as this from kids in Massachusetts, of all places, provides us with a ray of hope…

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

The argument of “buying time” has some merit. Things are breaking our direction, although slowly. For instance ten years ago I couldn’t imagine Israel being this unpopular, or people openly using the word “regime”. How much of a benefit that is, and how much time we need versus how much we’ll get I don’t know.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

The “buying time” strategy is opposed by the ongoing demographic smothering of whites. We may bide our time until our numbers are too few.

I don’t know the answer, I just see the dilema:

To charge the machine gun turrets or wait to be crushed in our trenches by their tanks?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Well, we’ve seen how well those tanks have done in the killing fields of the Ukraine…

Mike Tre
Mike Tre
1 month ago

The context seems to be getting another Hitler would be a bad thing in itself, when in reality the only bad thing about it is that the country known as God’s Chosen Litterbox would kvetch the entire globalist cabal into uniting against him and his country, using the same old financial terrorism and spun tales of 6 trillion nuggets of clay being sifted away in homicidal pooper scoopers.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Mike Tre
1 month ago

Their financial leverage has s immense. Their propaganda seems to be failing.

Mike Tre
Mike Tre
Reply to  Maxda
1 month ago

As they brownify western nations they fail to realize that the brown man is not so easily guilted into reaming silent on or supporting their pathological worldview.

Maxda
Maxda
1 month ago

I used to think Hitler, Pinochet, Sulla were all the bad guys.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Maxda
1 month ago

I used to think The Ayatollah was a bad guy.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Maxda
1 month ago

Con Franco, pan y trabajo!

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Maxda
1 month ago

Even back in my normiecon days, they never convinced me about Pinochet. Perhaps I was just a budding dissident and didn’t know it. Looking back, it seems I did have some vague unarticulated feeling that Hitler and Germans weren’t really my enemy.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Pinochet put Chile right.

Hitler turned Germany into a smoking ruin. Don’t compare the two. Hitler was a complete a-hole. Invade Russia… What a dink.

NoOneImportant
NoOneImportant
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 month ago

The three major powers at the time turned Germany into a smoking ruin, not Hitler. The question is at whose behest and cui bono?

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  NoOneImportant
1 month ago

Who decided to invade Russia? And then, to compound the error, declare war on the US after the Japs started running amok?

Even if Hitler was being baited by Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, he was stupid enough to take the bait and send the German people – his people – into the meat grinder. A real idiot a-hole. Bismarck shit better men than Adolph Schickelgruber.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maxda
1 month ago

Always loved Sulla. In fact, named one of my cats after him.

Requiescat in pace to both Sullas.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 month ago

Britain is in a death spiral probably much acute than the USA. The political parties can’t do anything about; in fact they can’t (or don’t, same thing) even acknowledge it. So theatre is all that’s left. But going back further, Labour and Tories have been dance partners for as long as I can remember. Back in 1950, when the Tories won the general election, they kept the new welfare state in place for the next thirteen years. In 1987 when Labour came back, the first person Blair went to see was Thatcher. Blair was a continuation of Thatcher, her bastard… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Yes, I’m afraid there is a difference. Not so much maybe, but it’s there. Probably because of the nature of the parliamentary system and that the ruling party both makes the laws and is the executive.

On the minus side, Britain is a thrall of the USA and has been since 1945 and even more so after 1979. A thrall both geopolitically and (maybe to a lesser extent) culturally.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 month ago

What specifically happened in 1979?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

Thatcher came into office. Her stance was (unofficially) obsequiousness to the USA (hiding behind the euphemism of “our special relationship with the USA, which had the Americans wetting themselves silly), while officially trying to sound more macho and aggressive on the world stage. But the only way Britain could be more macho on the world stage was by being USA’s attack dog, or to put it more politely, its aide-de-camp. Britain became a very junior partner to the US imperium versus its previous semi-vassal status. This humiliating junior status was in evidence both in 1990 and in 2003. In contrast,… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

Election of Thatcher. It really was a huge game-changer for the UK. Whatever her flaws, millions of Brits became wealthy thanks to her policies. She raised living standards and brought back national confidence.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Control of the media is everything. Most people are not independent thinkers and the media dictates most people’s morality, whether Christian or trannie.

Everything follows from the media’s morality. It is the lynchpin.

Kevin DeAnna: We don’t have a state-controlled media, we have a media-controlled state.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 month ago

Can we just remember that the UK is in fact still a monarchy? So “democracy” being a political facade makes sense.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

That could get interesting, if William has any balls. His father, the walking tampon, clearly doesn’t.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

I work for a German company, and a few weeks ago our communications commissar posed an hysterical screed telling the whole company that Mustache Man was returning due to AfD rising, German democracy was in crisis, and everyone had to band together to fight racism. She then made action items for people who live in Germany and don’t live in Germany to do in order to give support. First off, using a company blog to post this was insane, but even more insane was asking foreigners to essentially intrude on another nation’s political system. She did it without batting an… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Last time I was in Berlin I got to chatting with some AfD people. It was a pleasure, a breath of fresh air.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

“First off, using a company blog to post this was insane, but even more insane was asking foreigners to essentially intrude on another nation’s political system. She did it without batting an eye.”

“She.”

Well, that explains it…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

A German guy recently explained to me that AfD are real Nazis and that their members love to use the roman salute when nobody’s looking. He seemed to genuinely believe this. Propaganda works.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

I do the Roman salute when nobody’s looking

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Marko
1 month ago

Yup, both the Roman and English styles of salute are to symbolically indicate an unarmed hand. The American style of displaying the backside of the hand eschews this notion entirely. And this is one reason I don’t consider myself “European”; I don’t care if you know I am armed. In fact, it’s better all around if we both assume each other is packing.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

You’d think that if there were some actual German nazis out there they’d use the NSDAP-specific salute that everyone seems to have forgotten, not the universal “Roman” one from TV.

Not only does no living person remember what the nazis were really like, nobody even looks at film of them anymore. The gods of our creation myth have become imaginary.

Curious Monkey
Curious Monkey
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

We should start a Nick Fuentes was right jar to put a penny every time people start praising Mustache Austrian Painter. I started checking Nick on Rumble and he is sort of the sperg guy that we don’t see as persuasive to the sensitive cat ladies or normies, but he is fun, the man has a comedian style including lashing out at his own followers. Even the Red Scare Pod girls bring him as a topic occasionally, chicks like funny cocky guys. Now that he is post-cancelled he keeps praising Mustache boy on Rumble as a defiance act to our… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Curious Monkey
1 month ago

Fuentes is walking talking meme at this point. The general rule of any internet discussion since BBS’s has been when the discussion runs out of fuel it inevitably dissolves to Adolf, there’s nothing substantial left to say. Fuentes had his heyday and is finished. He’ll buzz around and make some noise but that’s it.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
1 month ago

Neema Parvini‘s “The Populist Delusion” is a master class on why populist movements always fail and always will.

It’s short and sweet. Even has a Paul Gottfried chapter.

If it’s going to get worse, even much worse, better now than in my dotage.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

Politicians are populists when they don’t have enough support from the oligarchs. They can be very successful with that strategy. The failure happens once they win and get fully embedded into the system or if they are too weak and cowardly to destroy it.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

This should be required reading in the DR. Brevity is the soul of wit.

It also explains why MAGA is a dead end.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
1 month ago

Pual Gottfried is wrong here.