The Use And Abuse of History

In the 1976 election, there was a scene at the Republican National Convention that turned out to be a vision of things to come. President Gerald Ford had successfully fended off the primary challenge of Ronald Reagan, but at the convention it was clear that Reagan was the more popular man with the people. The institutional party took the safe route and backed Ford, but at the convention it became clear that the voters were ready to move on from the old guard.

This was largely true of the managerial class in America. Corporate America was pushing for reform against an intransigent old liberal guard. Wall Street wanted changes to the financial system in preparation for the emerging global economy and the looming microprocessor revolution. This book, written in 1976 coincidentally, talked about the looming revolution in economics that was coming with computers. Of course, a sizable chunk of the political class was ready for change.

What the convention revealed was that the public was also ready to move on from the cultural revolution of the 1960’s and the general political and economic stagnation that defined the 1970’s. On other words, the public was in a mood for reform, and they would be willing to take some tough medicine if the right man was put forth to sell them on it. That man was Ronald Reagan, who won the 1980’s election and ushered in the reforms that came to be known as the Reagan Revolution.

There were elements of the institutional left that opposed Reagan. The media called him Hitler, of course, and spent his entire time lying about everything. They invented the concept of homelessness as a counter to the booming economy. The academy was also opposed to Reagan and responded by diving head long into the antecedents of what we now call the woke religion. The Democratic Party remained trapped in the past throughout the decade.

The point of this walk down memory lane is that reform is always a top-down process that begins with elements of the elite either looking around and sensing danger or growing restless with the prior generation of elites. In the 1970’s, there was a little of both as some elites feared the country was headed to a crackup, while others sensed a new day was dawning and the old bulls needed to step aside. Once they found a champion, the reform effort took off.

Fast forward half a century to our time and we can see some of the elements that existed in the middle of the 1970’s. The world is at some sort of inflexion point economically due to the underlying currency arrangements. In the 1970’s the dollar’s status was under assault due to Western incompetence. Today the dollar is under pressure mostly due to Washington perfidy. There are serious efforts to reduce the dollar’s role in the global economy.

You also have a looming demographic change. In the 1970’s the baby boomers were hitting the labor market and the adult economy like a tidal wave. Much of what drove the economic revival was the loosening of the rules so this massive wave of young adults could earn and spend. Today we are at the other end of that long cycle as the baby boomers exit the work force. They are not being replaced. Instead, we have diversity which must be overcome to maintain the economy.

There are a lot of parallels like this. It is the reason that old paleos like Steve Sailer often compare the present to their salad days. Not only does it help explain the present, but it is comforting to think that like the 1970’s, this period of tumult will give way to another great interregnum, a time of relative peace and prosperity where politics gives way to practical pursuits. That certainly sounds comforting but there are some obvious problems with taking the comparison that far.

The first problem, and the main problem, is the country of today is nothing like it was half a century ago in terms of demographics. Instead of having a massive wave of young, smart people ready to build their future about to enter the system, we have a vibrant tide ready to wash away the white middle-class. Demographically, America is like the film World War Z where the new vibrancy is scaling the walls. No one knows what to do about it, other than build the walls higher.

Then you have the fact that there are no signs that any element of the ruling elite is interested in reform. Instead, they look like toadies of a rock band after a long weekend of partying in a fancy hotel. Theirs is a life of self-indulgence and their highest goal is to maintain the system that lets them self-indulge. What passes for an opposition in elite circles is just geezers and their dim-witted acolytes chanting catch phrases that ceased to resonate half a century ago.

Now, not all things are discussed openly. It is possible that behind closed doors in the elite institutions there are top men working the problem. Perhaps they think AI is the analog to the microprocessor. Maybe it is genetics that will be the revolutionizing force of this coming epoch of reform. It is also possible that those are just more overhyped items in an economy that has been running on hype for decades. Elon Musk is the world’s richest man because he is the biggest hype man.

Even if there is something happening behind the scenes with the revolutionary potential of the microprocessor, where is the Ronald Reagan in the political system to sell the changes that must come with it? Where is the socio-political movement that could produce a salesman like Reagan? The political class now looks like that expensive hotel room the elites partied in all weekend. It is a scene full of sadness and memories of better days that now seem long gone.

You can probably take this a bit further and suggest that Trump was the elites vehicle to make the needed changes to stave off crisis. Despite his faults, he is an oddly charismatic figure, who has wanted nothing more than to be embraced by the ruling elite of his country. He would have been a great pitchman for a renewal, but the system has treated him like an alien virus. Imagine if Reagan had been arrested at the 1976 convention instead of cheered.

Historical parallels are often used to inspire a pursuit of future greatness and sometimes they are used to command a return to past habits. We see both in this age as old men like Joe Biden feebly mumble about the glorious future. We see slightly less feeble old men chanting about a return to past principles. There is a third way to use history and that is to show that the present does not have a comforting analog in the past and therefore we are on our own to sort our future.

That is where the West finds itself now. Those who will make the future will first have to close the door on the past. The challenges of the demographic age have no corollary in the past, so the solution, if one exists, does not live in the past. Put another way, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and John Paul II are not walking through that door, so there is no point in leaving it open. The only reason for understanding the past is to know that it is not the future.


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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

The reason neither side is putting out a coherent plan for the future is that it doesn’t exist. The Left wants to rule over a country that functions like it did in 1985 but looks like a Bennetton commercial. That won’t work, and, deep down, they know it. The Right is hoping that non-whites will discover Natural Rights and start acting white. (No joke, Sailer has said this is what he expects would happen if the Left would just stop with the identity politics stuff.) Obviously, neither of these are going to happen. The only ways forward are rough looking.… Read more »

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Their plans aren’t coherent beyond “diverse, inclusive, and prosperous liberal democracy” (Dems) or just “line go up” (GOP). That’s because they can’t be…the country is too big. Even if we were 88% white like we were in the 60s, a country of 350 million can’t get along well. Europe fought some nasty brother wars when they were all the kind of mono-ethnic nationalist paradises that we here on the DR pine for. So ethnic enclaves isn’t necessarily the path to peace. What seems to be the common denominator is population and density. The bigger the both, the more strife there… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

The only reason we’re 350 million is because we’re NOT 88% white.

Crowding is one thing, diversity is another, but crowding because diversity?
Look out below.
(Oh, wait, that’s us. Look out above.)

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

True. For a long time now all of AINO’s population gain has stemmed from immigration, legal and illegal.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

China seems to be managing their big population pretty well, but their leading ideology is something like a Confucian national socialism. Also, it is easier to manage a nation that believes in their future. Americans, and westerners in general, know that the future sucks. Even the wokest believers of the new gay religion can feel it deep in their meager souls.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Hun
14 days ago

It’s easier to manage a country that is one ethnic group [for all practical purposes]. That’s why America can’t rebound and China will do well.

China wants to go to the moon to put a Chinaman/woman on the moon. The U.S. wants to go back to the moon to put a black and a woman on the moon.

Advantage China.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
14 days ago

Game, set, and…?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
14 days ago

Let’s just tell the negroes the moon is made of watermelon…

I'm not left handed either
I'm not left handed either
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

ham bushes and blanket trees-

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Groids are the least of our problems these days. The biggest problem in my opinion is skewing immigration to be so “Asian.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
14 days ago

For China, a moon landing with be an accomplishment signaling their coming of age. Won’t be the same for us—if we can do it at all.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

For some timely lulz—

I was on a large call today with NASA headed up by Rachel Levine’s brother basically (egregiously male presenting tranny), lots of blackety black administrators that control the multi-billion dollar budget, and some lefty middle aged cat ladies. That is “NASA” as it stands in 2024. A hollowed out husk.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Apex Predator
14 days ago

Yep, NASA cannot even create a *new* idea—thus the return to the moon stunt. One that is bound to unimpress. Can’t wait for them to announce the lunar voyage “diverse” crew. Now that will be impressive. I’d say one woman, one Black, one White, and an Asian twofer from Japan.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

I can hardly wait for all the Benny Hill-esque rescue missions…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

There will have to be at least one perv. Probably a tranny wearing a sundress on the outside of his space suit.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Apex Predator
14 days ago

Apex Predator: “That is “NASA” as it stands in 2024. A hollowed out husk.

That’s probably why whoever it was [presumably an handful of patriots in the Pentagon/NSA] created the Elon Musk phenomenon; likely they could see the handwriting on the wall, and they knew that if we were to stick with DEI, then the Russians & the Chinese would walk all over us.

Ergo the Pentagon/NSA Bros surreptitiously created Elon Musk, so that Elon could do what FedGov could no longer do.

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Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

Marko: “many of our problems will be solved when the world has 4 billion as opposed to 8, and the US has 150 mil as opposed to 400 mil

You sound like you’re an insider at (((Pfizer))) or (((Moderna))).

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Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Since becoming Brazil is the natural path in all of this, the elites will clamp down more and more as things get worse. Their fear will grow causing more draconian measures to enforce conformity. Eventually when normie has nothing to lose, well…. A solution might actually present itself.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

True. As the system doesn’t run as well as it did in the past and their multi-everything utopia doesn’t emerge, our rulers will get more and more authoritarian. But, as you say, it won’t work. Indeed, it will only push things forward more quickly.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

Yes, we are heading for a Brazil, where the whites and asians (who make up almost the entire Universities, live in enclaves with high fences and guards around them, while the rest of the country becomes a Lord of the Flies scenario….

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

The Zman tells us the past is a foreign country to the young.
We old fogeys know the future will be unrecognizable to us.

But when all the world is Lagos, a slum 100 miles across, the Zman will look around and say, “Hey! I know this place!”

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

“…the past is a foreign country to the young.”

A blessing in disguise. Can you imagine the existential pain of knowing the past and being forced to live in such a dystopian future? Reads like the euthanasia scene from “Soylent Green”:

https://youtu.be/SW4-jcTnjLo?si=DnMncuzFsvLytTKE

Sorry for the poor quality.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Well, there’s also the helluva lot of pain in knowing the past and realizing how we effed it all away. I’ll look at a Life Magazine from 1962 and feel like bawling.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Yep, shame—it’s a White thang!

Hun
Hun
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

This may be the “positive” scenario for the US.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

Yes. But an ever shrinking portion of Whites and Asians will be able to afford this life. Whites are also being cut off from opportunity and will frankly struggle to compete. We are suited for innovation and exploration, not test taking and credential acquisition. The world as it is constructed favors the latter and thus not Whites. I live in an enclave where wealthy Ashkenazi are being rapidly replaced by East Asians. At the same time, Obama/Soros/Globocorp’s Section8 and low-income housing are also sprinkling in ever larger numbers of people who would never have been in here even recently. I… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  RealityRules
14 days ago

We are suited for innovation and exploration, not test taking and credential acquisition. The world as it is constructed favors the latter and thus not Whites.

Whites could choose a lifestyle less focused on credentials, but largely don’t. And when we do, end up having to pay the college loans for those who did chase the credentials.

We could choose to avoid the financialization, even though it means we will never be truly wealthy. We could choose to avoid the blue hives and have a life more like what we claim to prefer.

We just don’t.

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

The problem, as Z has repeatedly noted is that Brazil was always Brazil and there is no structure or institution in that nation that wasn’t put together by Brazil. The equivalent would be if space aliens visited Brazil, changed out everything in their country with Japanese infrastructure and institutions, and then left.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
14 days ago

Evil Sandmich: Excellent point. Brazil evolved to be what it is, with the demographics it has. Plus it aspired to ape the White world, and actually received some financial and population from that world. As Alzaebo notes, when all the world is Lagos, there is no help coming from anywhere.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  3g4me
14 days ago

Yea all these expats are going to get the surprise of their life when all these 3 world shit holes aren’t getting paid and/or don’t have to worry about America cracking down on them…

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
14 days ago

^^^ Another InstaPundit refugee. Did you get tired of Israel! Israel! Israel! ?

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

Pretty much. I got tired of arguing with Jews in the comments every day. The quote from Mustache Man comes to mind…

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
14 days ago

Exactly. Brazil has Brazilian ways of working. They work in a suboptimal way, but they kind of work. Living in Central America, you can find a car cheap. They take shocked or old cars from the US, they fix it here very cheaply and you have a car like new, much cheaper than the States. So, even if people is poor compared to the States can afford a car. In US, you will be poor but the cars will be expensive because safety rules, climate change and so on. Here we have shitty public services and low taxes. You will… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  imnobody00
14 days ago

Yes, most future predictions for the US ignore the history and current make up of the US.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

I’m hoping the Jews, who in large part caused this problem, become horrified that all of their new pets are so hostile to Israel. That may be where the solution comes from.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  TempoNick
14 days ago

The Jews will not be solving this for us. Anyone with 2 working brain cells can predict:
a)An insistence on being just one of the (white) generic citizenry
b)Making an anti-white society
will end in disaster for those create it. This observation appears to allude the vast majority of Jews, particularly those in places of power and influence.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

It is not in the Juice nature to solve problems they create. They just cry victim and move on to the next host.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

The national elite are too myopic to worry about anything beyond keeping power in the next election.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Citizen: Thing is, demographically we already are Brazil; people just don’t want to face it and admit it. After I mentioned the black mayor of St. Paul having his student loan paid off by Biden, my husband looked up the St. Paul demographics – less than 50% non-hispanic White (and as usual, that will include Juice, Arabs, etc.). In 1970 it was 94% White. The past is a different country – I remember it well – and all the seeds of today’s poisoned fruit had already been sown and had taken root. Yet all we get are appeals to a… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
14 days ago

This ^^^. The retards claiming that the pendulum will swing back are not understanding that there are no longer “Americans” left to swing it back. The left has won, and there is nothing in sight to show that this will ever change. This isn’t the movies, and the good guys don’t always win. The left has already won. We keep talking about how eventually their house of cards will collapse, but will it? When you have removed the founding stock nearly completely, who is going to lead a charge to return to normalcy? Hispanics? Asians? It’s not happening. All things… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

Tired Citizen: “This isn’t the movies, and the good guys don’t always win.” Preach. Only Pollyannas accuse this of being ‘black pilling.’ AINO is running on fumes. Yes, there is a lot of ruin in a nation . . . but that ruin has been ongoing and accelerating for more than 60 years. And for those who want to point to how long the roman empire staggered on, I point to the pace of change in the last 10, and the last 20 years. Cultural and demographic change on steroids within a vast and fragile system. Whether there is some… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  3g4me
13 days ago

People tend to forget the Roman Empire, Medieval Europe, etc. were 90% agrarian cultures. They could at least eat.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago
3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
14 days ago

I’ve read that multiple times. Excellent book.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

The Left wants to rule over a country that functions like it did in 1985 but looks like a Bennetton commercial. I really don’t think so. They want anything from, resembling, or reminding anyone of 1985, including Benetton—early, “optimistic” globohomo—obliterated forever in an orgy of total pain. They enjoy rule because it allows them to rain injury from above, to be the world’s sadistic “top,” but that’s not the end. The irrecoverability of everything is. They don’t even bother making utopian promises anymore. The future has no character except that in it you—Whiteness™—are dead, enslaved, and/or genetically swamped forever. Regime… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

“The national elite doesn’t want to rule Brazil”

And they need to stop playing politics and fix immigration. But they won’t, and we all know why. The (((people))) who own them represent foreign interests, not to mention all the rich “Asians” in this country who also own their own “goyim” pet politicians.

Last edited 14 days ago by TempoNick
DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

As divulged today, a drugs panel of “experts” declined to recommend MDMA for approval as an exploratory therapy for PTSD. A primary rationale stated for the decision, and announced by a xir, was too many participants in the trials, which were somewhat successful, were white. “Not enough POC were included and so we don’t want to favor this one demographic over the others.” Literally clownworld.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

There was an HBO show a couple years back called, “The Young Pope,” and one of the story lines was about a cardinal who gets fed up with the young pope and decides to flee back to his old see in Honduras or someplace. The main reason being that he wanted to go back and bang this smokin’ hot chick he was banging before he went to Rome, except the hot chick was married to a devout narco, who happened to find out what was happening. > Do you know who I am? > Yes. You’re Carlos Garcia. > And… Read more »

Tony
Tony
14 days ago

I get annoyed with all the “cycles of history” talk that many on the right like Hunter Wallace of Occidental Dissent use.

If there are any cycles of history they seem exclusive to White countries and Chinese dynasties.

Looking at places like South America and Africa, I don’t see many cycles there.

When it goes brown, it stays down.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tony
14 days ago

Yeah, if I have to hear someone talk about the 4th turning again, it’s going to get physical. Whenever someone brings that up, I always mention that even if that theory is correct, it applied to white people. Why do they think that a bunch of Hispanics, blacks, Asians and Indians are going to act like white people.

They never have an answer.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Agreed. Not only that, the 4th turning has so many holes and inadequacies that it is worse than jibberish in terms of explaining what happened, what may happen and why.

There is this cycle you see, and it runs in this time frame. Now we are going back to this portion of it because it has been that many years.

It is just rubbish that is more evidence of what happens in a society where mass men write books for mass men. Garbage.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RealityRules
14 days ago

The Russian poet Velimir Khlebnikov formulated an extremely elaborate and hopelessly confused theory of cyclical history. He was also quite mad.

pie
pie
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

i believe history does cycle. but not necessarily as depicted here. first proof. name one form of government that has not failed. second proof. the natural man is an enemy to god. meaning a man naturally has no moral code. time and time again men have put away the moral code to foolish endeavor (like wealth or power over other men). it is a viscous cycle of failure then re learning the same old lesson of integrity of morals. meanwhile, governments fail, people starve, world wars . .. . its the same shxxt driven cycle. if you lived in russia,… Read more »

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  pie
14 days ago

‘Shit-driven Cycle’ reminds me a little of Joyce’s ‘Commodious Vicus of Recirculation.’

Bloomsday looming, too… for all those of us who frittered away a (lone a last a loved a long… oh shaddup FFS!) chunk of late adolescence on his scribblings.

pie
pie
Reply to  Zaphod
14 days ago

for those who entertain creation. imagine the god who oversees this cycle of lost civilizations. thousands of failures, each time the same old song. it is insanity mankind has not come to terms with his civil demise. only a god could bear to watch it. thank god for popcorn.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  pie
13 days ago

I thought the cycle was: Hard times make strong men, etc.

pie
pie
Reply to  c matt
13 days ago

yes, hard times make strong men. I’m referring to the longer cycle of civil self destruction over thousands of years civilization after civilization lost. the surge to civility and innovation then the collapse. i do not think mankind is capable of maintaining a civil technologically advanced society long term. the perversion of civility is always present and awaits the embrace of man in the end. its as if some greater force (devil, evolutionary time bomb, failure to recognize ….) is bent on man remaining a knuckle dragging ape after all mans efforts to lift himself up. i believe the cause… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Tony
14 days ago

This is exactly why I want to shake conservatards I know who say, “the pendulum will swing back the other way”.

No, it won’t. They cannot accept the fact that they’ve lost their country, and it is gone forever. It is never coming back.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

Strictly speaking, I agree. Though all it would take to fix things is for the productive class who do useful work to “quiet quit”. Once food stops flowing into the hives, things will sort themselves out right quick.

So when could that happen? I think maybe those who have no recollection of the ’70s might be able to do it. The rest of us are all either hopelessly damaged goods, or have hope that with the right ideas, we can make America great again.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

The “pendulum,” with one brief exception, has been rocketing leftward for about 60 years and is only accelerating in that direction. In fact, there is no pendulum, only a flamethrower running on an inexhaustible supply of Leftism.

Tony
Tony
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

The whole pendulum argument stems from the changing fortunes of the two parties.

The retards who attempt to make that argument, never bother to consider that one side never advances its supposed agenda when in power.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tony
14 days ago

Yep. On those occasions when Republicans had a hammerlock on power, the so-called “pendulum” did not reverse but rather slowed from warp speed to the speed of light.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

I read a Twitter thread the other day about how support for “gay marriage” and “gay rights” are dropping for the first time in, well, ever. But so what? Congress near unanimously enshrined this into law. Nobody can voice opposition to “gay marriage” and get a job in corporate America or the government. At best, the people who say the pendulum is swinging back now say, “well, if you choose to be transgender that’s fine, but don’t talk to kids about it.” That is no pendulum.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mycale
14 days ago

Some people need to be smacked upside the pudendum with a pendulum…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Do they ever Brother especially those who know what needs to be done but don’t have the courage or fortitude to do it…

BTP
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
13 days ago

Pendulum talk is merely a cope. Like Christian Nationalism.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Tony
14 days ago

You can’t have cycles of history, where no history exists, like in Africa. South America has been in a lot of flux over the past few centuries. Like North America in this one…

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tony
14 days ago

To use Hegel’s phraseology, those are not world-historical peoples. Their history begins only with contact with world-historical peoples such as whites, Chinese, and yes, Mohammedans.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

You can’t have a sense of history when your level of record equals old men telling “stories” around a campfire. Then you have the Boy Scouts.

AntiDem
AntiDem
14 days ago

Leave 1976 behind? We can’t even leave 1938 behind! Every new boogeyman is Hitler, and everyone who suggests restraint, diplomacy, and sanity is Neville Chamberlain appeasing him with “peace in our time”. Every candidate or aspirant for any prominent office must go through a formal ceremony of disavowing our enemies from World War II, as if we expect the Third Reich to somehow pop back into existence any time now. When will World War II finally be allowed to be over, consigned to the history books and placed in the care of the historians? Not only that, but we have… Read more »

Junior Wolf
Junior Wolf
Reply to  AntiDem
14 days ago

There’s a certain group of people that always live in the past and drag anyone that is trying to live in the present or look forward there.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Junior Wolf
14 days ago

Must be that pile of shoes…

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Tired Citizen
14 days ago

It’s almost always the pile of shoes. Said at a local synagogue this past weeked, “remember the six million.” Same ten years ago. Same twenty years ago. Same one thousand years from now. Unless ….

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  AntiDem
14 days ago

As long as the GAE regime survives, then it will keep the same gods, and the same devils. Once it “collapses,” however that occurs, then it will have new gods, and new devils. But until that time we are stuck with the same old ones. It’s all so tiresome.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  AntiDem
14 days ago

Auron Macintyre had a philosopher on his show to whom he asked (paraphrasing) “how do we get modernity without all the civilization-ending debauchery?” to which he answered:
“I don’t know”
But he did say that for a new, future-looking philosophy to be born everyone still holding on to a piece of the 20th century needs to go away, which will (in his words) probably take generations (if it happens at all).

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  AntiDem
14 days ago

It has been said the world can’t move on until the last grandchild of the last baby boomer is strangled with the intestines of the last grandchild of the last holocaust survivor.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
14 days ago

Sounds rather drastic…

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  AntiDem
14 days ago

The United States has no future, because like an old man sitting in a rocking chair on his porch, it is living in the past, obsessed with the stories of its long-ago glory days.”

The future will come to find us anyway. Loved the rant, though. Wish I could spread on the Internet.

Mr. House
Mr. House
14 days ago

I’d argue its more like 1920’s Germany then morning in america. Easy money? Check! Rampant degeneracy? Check? Feeble and weak political parties? Check!

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pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Mr. House
14 days ago

But that Germany wasn’t importing 3d world savages, so it could bounce back very rapidly due to the high intelligence level…

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
14 days ago

Boomers’ parents and grandparents also legalized contraception and abortion, dropping the birth rate from their booming nearly 4.0 to the Boomers’ <2.0. They prevented us from reproducing ourselves. That’s echoing now with the national birth rate about 1.6, and what’s left of white millennials, the unaborted, even lower. It’s hard to “honor your father and mother” when you’re disembodied body parts slipping down the drain in an abortuary.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Jack Boniface
14 days ago

Low birth rates are a spiritual problem. Contraception and abortion are just secondary factors.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Boniface
14 days ago

Did we lose a billion people in the last three years? Thanks to Big Pharma, there are excess mortality rates and wildly excess miscarriage and infertility rates. But, what is not being counted, are the number of babies NOT being born. Add that in to the casualties, and a real number becomes clear. What I read was that the world population has actually dipped to 6.8 billion. We were at 7.7 billion in 2019. I don’t want the duskies crowding us out to extinction. The capitalist dipsticks can crow about plenty of room, but what breaks down before the resource… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

Official number for world population is 8.1 billion, but I understand that this is an estimate and many governments have no real idea how many people live in their countries. Can you provide some sources to alternative data, with explanations?Thanks

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

It’s a truism that markets always go up “over time.” This is accepted by pretty much everyone. “Stay invested for your retirement, the market always goes up over time.” I have this idea that it correlates to population, which has always been rising for as long as anyone can remember, since the black plague anyway. When population declines, I think markets always go down “over time” will become the new reality.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

Alzaebo: Ultimately it doesn’t matter – we cannot outbreed the non-Whites. Neither can we ‘under live’ them. Dissidents like to talk about reality – well, nature is a big part of that and it’s a constant battle to the death for resources and survival. No, human nature has not and will not ‘develop’ past that fact.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

“population has actually dipped to 6.8 billion.
We were at 7.7 billion in 2019.”

So it looks like COVID has been a success.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
14 days ago

If global population really is dropping, covid has nothing to do with it.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Although the vax might…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Indeed.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Not certain about the numbers, but the demographic predictions have been on track for years wrt world population decline—except for Africa of course.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TempoNick
14 days ago

Yes, Tempo, Lineman, that’s the point. The depop crowd will be hailed as visionaries.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Boniface
14 days ago

Birth rate is hardly the only factor there. Child mortality (5 and under) dropped from roughly 40 per 1000 in 1950 to 7 per in 2020. Sure, society in the last, say, 50 years doing everything it can to kill or prevent as many babies as it can, and, yet, Millenials are more numerous than Boomers. Some from immigration, sure, but to a large extent, it’s that child mortality dropped by a whopping 83%.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

The drop in child mortality is precisely why we are experiencing a whopping increase in “Spiteful Mutants” and a *decreasing* population IQ (that and immigration).

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Might be. Spiteful mutants tend to spawn from relatively successful whites, who already had decent child mortality numbers. And while the diversity are fecund as heck, they are also wildly disproportionately aborting them.

My point was that if birth rates were identical between 1950 to today, just the decrease of child mortality would represent a 3% increase in population growth. Which largely explains the number of Millenials. Heck, child mortality now is a quarter of what it was for the first of the Xers.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

My pet theory is that Spiteful Mutants are on the rise as much because of increased assortative high IQ mating as reduced childhood mortality. Confounding factor being that the middle and upper middle classes also have the least childhood mortality and therefore the most mutant-mutant mating pair-ups when they do bother to reproduce.

The rise and apogee of managerialist class-consciousness gives rise to its own internal ‘contradiction’ in that their kids and grandkids exhibit noticeably high fraction of autistic troons and all-round freakouts.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

Harsh Darwinian selection perfected the species and got us to the level of the Industrial Revolution, which turned the whole phenomenon on its head. Not sure about spawning from “successful Whites”. The greater the mutational load—which entails less successful, lower IQ folk as it does successfully Whites—the greater the probability of such mutation being passed on, and added too. It’s cumulative, albeit random per se. The only way to reduce it is “harsh Darwinian selection”.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Yup, that harsh selection comes in the form of Autist hybrids.
Big Nose tribe are lethally focused because they are an autistic race.

Their genetic / cultural strategy combines a means to enforce a core pool reinforcing certain traits such as paranoia, intent, verbal IQ, while boiling off a majority ‘fringe’ into assimilation, resulting in such things as Judeo-Puritans, Khazars, and Islamics.

The extended seeding of such strains may be far, far larger than we thought, thus great swings and hefty leverage of historical “cycles” in the West.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

The anti-Christian reaction of two millenia likely comes from the possibility that evangelical Judaic cults swept the Roman empire, converting as much as one fifth of the empire’s population. The abandonment of mandatory circumcision ended a core group restriction and enabled the spread.

Thus, the revenge against Rome is not for the exaggerated “genocide” of 70 AD; but of the upstart Judaic Jesus factions gaining more traction than the supremacist Ebionite factions.

Talmud coalesced in the same centuries New Testament did;
Khazaria rose to power at the same time the Islamic Revolution did. These are Ebionite reactionaries against Romano-Christian rise.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

add: that 1/5 of the empire corresponds with when a Latin republic became an expansionist Empire. I see a genetic base to empire.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

Agree with Steve, the child mortality rates is the number I’m not factoring in. Counter to that is the birth defect and disability rates, Zaphod’s Autistic Fertility ratio as well.

“Spiteful mutants tend to spawn from relatively successful whites”- such a good catch. Cross-segination has a limiting ratchet, just as consanguinity does.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Yes, the increase in Mutants and decrease in IQ is the real pendulum.

And a big, swingin’ pendulum it is.
Nature’s “balance”? Population crash, ask the bison and the passenger pigeons.

usNthem
usNthem
14 days ago

“Demographically, America is like the film World War Z where the new vibrancy is scaling the walls. No one knows what to do about it, other than build the walls higher.”

I do. It involves moats, minefields and machine guns, among others.

Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

Also a fleet of barges leaving Norfolk and pointed eastward.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Barney Rubble
14 days ago

Rafts. Vendée rhymes with Pinochet.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Zaphod
14 days ago

And noyades rhymes with Democrats. Well, sort of…

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

Yep..we could close the southern border, except for well guarded corridors, in a week if we wanted to…Just create a 10 mile deep free fire zone on the border with Mexico…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

“Yoohoo! The first week of Migrant Season is open!”

Steve
Steve
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

Ooh, and line the border with trebuchets, and give a whole new meaning to “catch and release”…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

Dr. Strangelove 2024, Or How I Learned To Love The Neutron Bomb

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

And plenty of hot pitch.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

I know exactly how. Those laws the states are passing making being an illegal, illegal. Imprison them and put them on chain gangs, paying prison wages. They will self deport.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  usNthem
14 days ago

As others have pointed out 3g4me, Tired Citizen, et. al. The time for moats and minefields was 20 years ago. Flamethrowers and machineguns can be used but they will be pointed inwardly if used and it would be far too messy for the stomach of most people. The enemy isn’t at the gate, he long ago breached the walls and gate, he is your neighbor and -you- are already the minority even if the lying stats do not show it. For some reason many (most?) of you are not getting the memo yet. I guess because it is not within… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Apex Predator
14 days ago

No AP, I hear you. I’ve lived the vast majority of my life within 100 miles of the beaner border, so am well familiar with the blessings of at least that particular spicy flavor of diversity. However, you must admit that the sewage flow has been turbocharged in the last few years or so. The last several times we’ve flown out of town there have been any number of “squatamalens” etc., on every freaking flight – it really is unbelievable and nothing I’ve ever seen before. We just returned from a trip across the pond, and you are right, there… Read more »

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
14 days ago

Today’s ruling elites have a Silicon Valley/Berkeley/Boulder ethos about them. They are David Brooks’ Bobos and Richard Florida’s Creative Class—i.e. aloof, educated, left-leaning hipster techies who are too cool to make it into the office. Steve Jobs was perhaps the most thoroughbred expression of the breed. The culture of the last 30 years, with the rise of neoliberal economics and old Leftist protest-slogans becoming official government policy, has basically been the result of this class imposing their autistic view of reality on the rest of the world via the instrumentality of the internet and the image of the tech-enabled individual,… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
14 days ago

Agreed, though I think you are using the term, “neoliberal”, in a way that political science does not. Musk and Theil have at least some aspect of neoliberal character, but not Jobs or SBF.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
14 days ago

AI was supposed to be their tool to replace us, but it looks like it’s going to replace them first.

Well, we wanted a big donor on our side.
What if we had the biggest Donor of them all?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
14 days ago

AI is autocorrect on steroids; a nice tool to have if you want quickly generate some copy for a project, but hardly anything to found an economic revival on.”

Sigh. You are as ignorant of AI and its potential (good and bad) as you are on HBD.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
14 days ago

Very nice. On the AI bit I would expound a bit. The GAE is all based on managing perception and developing technology that is aimed at propaganda, mass communication and mass deracination. Were we not ruled by usurers and short to non-sighted merchants we would use AI for better purposes. There is a society that is doing that, and it is China. AI and technology aimed at improving things in the physical world can be the basis for economic revival. China has run circles around the GAE in terms of applying technology. They used labor arbitrage and sheisters like Krugman/Friedman/WallStDispossessers… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RealityRules
14 days ago

That’s somewhat the point I was trying to make. AI is a completely different beast than the generalized computer technology launch of the 80’s of which we are still feeling the effect—socially and economically. To say that AI is just another application, and a simplistic one at that, is dangerous and I flatly claim ignorant. One need only look at the current nascent AI programs being released/demo’d to see the problems which may arise through such technology use—and then to realize just how such use may become irresistible given the declining intellect of our work force. Do we really want… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Compsci
13 days ago

Well, saying it is a glorified auto-correct does not mean it is not dangerous. It could very well become an unremovable, non-optional tyrannical auto-correct that in time could warp perception. Much like the crappily drawn cartoons that push degeneracy – they are crap, but still dangerous.

RealityRules
RealityRules
14 days ago

Who knows what the “elites” are doing. It is most likely that whether America remains the hegemon or its empire accelerates its retreat and collapse, they are preparing for either outcome. And what is that? As Biden says, they are here to, “FINISH THE JOB!” That job is the demolition of America and the entire Occident. That demolition has as its cornerstone the demolition of the people of the Occident. They are not building a wall against diversity, they are inviting in the diversity. More people means higher GDP and GDP is their God – the magic number out of… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  RealityRules
14 days ago

All hinges on that word WE Brother…If enough of us don’t want to take control of it then we will all be abused…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
14 days ago

Epic. Epic. Fkn’ epic. Had to walk away for a bit with that nigga girlboss lecturing our great and heroic Queen. A slave haranguing Nobility.

Game of Thrones! Lord of the Rings! Majestic stories loved worldwide, the most popular in all history, because they were all white! Replay, ruined, nobody cares…because niggas with blonde hair. Niggas ruin EVERYTHING.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  RealityRules
13 days ago

Damn shame you posted this so late in the day, top poast it deserved more updoots than it got. May want to pocket this for future use, it is an amazing & detailed summary of the problem.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  RealityRules
13 days ago

Superb comment! Painfully clear grasp of the overall problem. Relative to framing a theory and plan for an effective response … it seems to me that what “they” are doing to us — what they have already accomplished to this point — is pretty similar to what they see as the great civilizational crime of the white race. It also seems that they are even more successful at executing this destructive plan against white persons and cultures than was for multiple centuries that civilization they now accuse and destroy. I mean, at least there were peoples and practices left on… Read more »

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
14 days ago

I sometimes wonder if the people running things actually believe the techno communist future they talk about will actually work with a population of people who can’t even maintain clean water in their own countries. It almost seems like a red herring designed to get people focused on that instead of the looming demographic crisis, whether that’s intentional or not it certainly seems to have that effect. People who believe that’s coming have to also believe the brown hordes will be able to sustain that because of AI. As for me I look at a place like Detroit as a… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RVIDXR
14 days ago

“Living in a simulation” is just how atheists make peace with intelligent design

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

I had never thought about atheists in regards to simulation theory, seems rather contradictory since presumably someone or something would have to be running the simulation. Maybe I’m reading too much into it though.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

Egads. Both assume a giant magician outside the box.
Neither can explain origination.

Origination is self arising processes, oyster pearls arising from a tiny flaw, accumulating across vast repetitions of the Big Diesel.

The cosmic Ecology is far beyond mind or Mind. Sapient intelligence and collective intelligence are processes of the organic layer nesting memories into cohering structure, imprinting that structure on biochemical flesh and electromagnetic spectra. That is the blueprint that, expressing itself, appears to be the work of Reason.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

The original Origin, when all were formless forces, was time dilation. What we call gravity, (‘branes’ are today’s external Magician), is whirlpools of time dilation, where one “end” is a micro-picosecond slower, causing another faster “end” to begin swirling in a vortex. The original Flaw was that ‘nick’ of time. Matter, in the Origin, congealed from its twin Energy. The arising differences in state led to more details, more fractal differences arising betweenst the two interacting. Physical constants that proved, survived the Cycles of the Big Diesel. Each one, a note, added to the orchestral that became a symphony of… Read more »

WillS
WillS
Reply to  RVIDXR
14 days ago

Excellent comment. It is nearly impossible to believe we are where we are, and some people want us here.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  WillS
14 days ago

Yes, it is a fantastic comment.
Outstanding. A classic.

The good news is, Hell can be understood.
What you’re seeing is a function, a layer in an ecology, at work.
Its consequences and counter-consequences can be charted.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RVIDXR
14 days ago

Who writes AI will control that brown horde world.
“Just ask AI, and he’ll answer!”

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
14 days ago

The present situation is seriously compromised because the USA is losing between 1 and 2 IQ points per decade, as revealed by SAT and other test scores…The present population may simply be too stupid to pull off a Reagan revolution…

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  pyrrhus
14 days ago

And the entry of millions of 3d world criminals into the US, average IQ 90 or so, maybe less, is not helping the situation…

TomA
TomA
14 days ago

I think the correct metaphor for our impending future can be found in that newly minted medical term that has evolved in the wake of the Covid madness . . . Turbo Cancer. For those of you in the dark on this phenomenon, the mRNA vaccine has now been shown to spawn a new kind of cancer epidemic that has major far-reaching consequences for our species. Specifically, an abnormally high number of young people are now showing up in hospitals with Stage 4 cancers that went undetected until it was too late. No early warning signs of Stage 1 or… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
14 days ago

The people walking through the door are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Fani Willis, Jasmine Crockett, Cori Bush, Ibram X. Kendi, Scott Wiener, and the rest of the spiteful mutant contingent. It’s a future too horrifying to contemplate. So, it isn’t surprising that the GOP reminisces about the days of Reagan or the California of Saileer’s youth, possibly the greatest place that God and man ever built for a person to live. They are institutionally incapable of resisting this tidal wave of sewage that is coming our way. That’s why the GOP is on its way out and it is going… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
14 days ago

Reagan was just another link in the chain of causality that led to the present. With the benefit of hindsight, we know that he helped dismantle America and added some of the worst aspects of libertarian economics to mainstream economics. Under his leadership, the new industry America invented was outsourced. It was under his leadership that the financialization of the economy got started. It was also under his leadership that the consumer debt cycles really kicked off. He appointed one of the worst fed chairmen in history. Reagan obviously wasn’t all bad and certainly was not the only agent of… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

I think we need a better term than financialization. Your typical midwit has no concept of its meaning or its consequences. One possible replacement that is more explanatory, but also more cumbersome, is strategically directed inflation.

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

I think we need a better term than financialization. what would be the definition of; looting a large and wealthy country so severely that it will be completely destroyed in the end? The removal of industrial capacity has been criminal. Why would a country willingly allow the production of their essential goods to be off shored? Medicine, steel, micro-chips, hi tech tools and devices and weapons are all made for us by other countries. The stupidity of the people in charge is staggering. They have willingly destroyed us. I have heard people blame greed, envy and a hatred of the… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  WillS
14 days ago

Greed was the primary motivator, but they were able, I think, to justify the outsourcing due to their belief in the end of history, that the GAE would reign forever.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  WillS
14 days ago

Everyone and his dog has an explanation for the offshoring, but you cannot argue that for whatever reason, there was a hollowing out of US industry. People weren’t buying US cars, (insert ideological reasons) so Gary was shutting down steel production, so the Iron Range taconite processing shut down, and we end up with a Rust Belt.

It’s not greed, unless you think Americans were greedy by not blowing all their savings during a recession.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

Everyone remembers how hard it was to get the supply chain going to at least some degree after a very short interruption for COVID. And mostly that was just backlog from unloading ships.

Now let that shutdown go on for a decade or more, and the factories and plants producing all the precursors being unable to be started back up under the extant regulatory and environmental policies.

Greed is always a fun answer, because it allows you to feel morally superior, but it’s almost always wrong. Greed wasn’t invented in the 70s.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

There were recessions before 1981.
Plus, I believe he played a role, not that he was the sole cause.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

Oh, I largely agreed with what you said. I even upvoted you.

So far as I know, not one of the Gary steel mills that shut down by the mid ’70s ever fired back up. I saw firsthand the debris of the iron mining industry in Minnesota. The parts that could be sold off are long since gone, the rest slowly rusting away.

I don’t know how much of a role Reagan played in that saga. The requisite industries could not be restarted.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

The financialization of the economy started long before Reagan. The resulting inflation was tamed by Volker and it took a bad recession to do it. Millions of people who couldn’t buy a home in the late 70’s suddenly were able to do so. Deregulation of telecom spawned the miracle of communications we all carry in our pockets. He also got shot, and then carried 49 states. Unemployment cratered. All the stuff we associate visibly with a good economy…was good. Most of the ills you list came later. The silicon industry was destroyed in the early 2000’s for example. Reagan is… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Hokkoda
14 days ago

First, this : “resulting inflation was tamed by Volker and it took a bad recession to do it.” is categorically false. There was inflation throughout the 1980s. The average yearly inflation in the 80s 3.5% and that is using BS numbers of the government. (an item that cost 1 in Dec of 79 was 1.66 in Jan of 1990) There has been inflation almost every single year since like 1943. The relatively high inflation of the 1970s continued through the 1980s. This is despite all of the offshoring. “Millions of people who couldn’t buy a home in the late 70’s… Read more »

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

Well, if you’re gonna accuse me of lying, I’ll just point out that the inflation rate at the time Reagan took office was 12%. In ‘79 it was 13%. Interest rates in 1980 were 18%. EIGHTEEN percent.

Don’t lie to me, boy. I was there. We chopped f**king wood for 3 months every Fall just to not freeze to death.

when Reagan got elected, it was like being an East German being liberated.

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Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Hokkoda
13 days ago

I didn’t accuse you of lying. I didn’t lie to you either.

Inflation was less, not cured. 3.5 was the average, but there were higher periods in the 80s. You forget how much of a big spender he was. HE didn’t appoint Volcker, that was Carter. HE appointed the worst fed chairman probably in the history of the fed, Mr Greenspan.

Reagan was a mixed bag. Some was very good, some not so much. Reagan would have been the first person calling us racist. Reagan gave us ML Kang day. His VP was in with the neocons.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
13 days ago

Tars you need to check those numbers. I bought my first home in 1981. The interest rate was 13.1%. This was common and reflects not a yearly rise of 3+%. The recession was as usual, 100% the product of the Fed as they needed to choke out the money supply. Reagan did the hard decision and told Volker to go for it. It two years (of pain) it was over and we of course remortgaged the home at a respectable rate of around 7%. Later again at 5% or so. Rates lower than 5% were never heard of before the… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
14 days ago

Having spent decades successfully deconstructing everything, destroying every parallel institution, and utterly annihilating God, the left (and much of the right) is desperate to replace it with something.

That’s AI.

When I see Sam Altman or Elon Musk rambling on about how AI will save and/or destroy it and therefore must treat “it” very carefully, it’s hard not to think they’re talking about creating another god and determining how to placate it.

They’ll fail. Unless their actual goal is to bank a very tidy profit. In which case, they’ve succeeded.

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Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  ProZNoV
14 days ago

There’s been a hilarious back and forth between Yann Le Cun (should be Con or Cul, IMHO) on Twitter in the past few days. Won’t go into the whole inside baseball of the thing, but best viewed as a proxy fight between Zuckerberg (Le Cun is piss boy of the month thanks to being an AI luminary employed by Meta) and Musk.

JaG
JaG
14 days ago

The future is hot garbage. 1 trillion in debt every 100 days? I had to look up this fact. A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is 31 years. A trillion seconds is 31,688 years. I don’t know how this ends, but I feel we will be fighting over potatoes regardless of who is in charge.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  JaG
14 days ago

The only way it can end – a big “fu” to whoever is holding the debt.

Yman
Yman
14 days ago

End of history it is for both parties
Simply, put it that neither party can’t convince their chaotic diverse voters
No one wants to be hard working taxpayers, because looting is so much easier when you can play the race card

Jews shows the world how to rip off white people so everybody follows the yellow block
prosperity is not possible when everyone is looters and dysfunctional
it’s should called de-civilization

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

Whatever the “elite” vision of the future is, they will fall short of realizing it. Dysfunction will prevail. All the WEF/NGO style manipulation is sort of like kneading dough that doesn’t have enough yeast. No matter how hard and earnestly they knead, the bread won’t rise. The power grid won’t be reliable enough to support the dreamed of AI future. If the AI is to have reliable power, then nobody else will. Either it is shut off, or the people it is supposed to reach are shut off. Or the green new deal will have to be abandoned. It will… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

AFAIC, your first paragraph is the bright side.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

” . . . we still have too many Whites to ever reach South African levels of dysfunction . . .”
That won’t be a problem much longer. White marriage and birth rates are cratering. A few more decades of 0-2 children, vaxxed infertility, miscegenation, and immigration, and today’s approximately 55% White European population in AINO will drop to 40% of less capable Whites – and keep dropping.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
14 days ago

What can be done about it? There’s very little reason for a decent white guy to take a chance on women, and end up giving her the house (but still having to make the payments on it) and paying alimony and child support while he lives in the back seat of his car, or his parents’ basement.

At the very least, that has to be reversed. You divorce him, you get nothing. That will force the issue of women refusing to grow up and reject the bad boys in lieu of the good providers, materially and spiritually.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

Steve: While there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides, the majority belongs to the intrinsic nature and behavior of women. Therefore, current incentives based on the false narrative (i.e. paid maternity leave and baby daycare) merely worsen the problem. Put the money and incentives in the hands of men, keep women under both behavioral and financial control, and then you might see some progress.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1767742022301909466.html

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
14 days ago

Interesting. Anecdotal, I know, but I’ve observed the same effect with inheritance that they documented with lottery winnings.

Not sure I agree with their belief (without seeing the data, I have no idea if it supports their conclusion, or if it is just a confirmational bias) that wealth shocks simply facilitate breakups already on the rocks. I think you have to rule out that women in that situation now have options (travel, etc.) that they never thought they would.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  3g4me
14 days ago

Yes, exactly. South Africa’s white population is what, 7%? AINO’s getting that low is unforeseeable.

FNC1A1
Member
14 days ago

Peter Turchin’s observations on elite overproduction and the creation of counter-elites might be helpful. The elite live in a very competitive world. If the official elite is incompetent, they are setting themselves up for replacement by the more competent. Let’s make sure that some of those new elite are on our side.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  FNC1A1
14 days ago

I think that you’re seeing a bit of that now. There’s a new crop of elites who either don’t get along with the current elites or realize that they’ll never be allowed in the inner Kosher circle. Musk is bristling at the controls being put on him. King Cobra doesn’t want to be a well-paid house slave to real rulers like Haley. JD Vance seems to be thinking along the lines of Cobra. (Note the Indian presence with both of them as Vance is married to a Brahmin.) As to whether any of this new crop of elites are on… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

There are plenty of Jewish elites fighting the top dogs now too – Bill Ackman and David Sacks are just a few.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Captain Willard
14 days ago

Their only concern is “Is it good for the Jews?” If they were to become the top dogs, they’d still spit on Whites.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Captain Willard
14 days ago

Right… but Bill Ackman is fighting for Israel and his people against elements of the elite which have smoked too much of the woke stuff and gone anti-imperialist on Zionism. Only admirable thing about him is he bats his corner. Wish more of us could that for ours.

David Sacks seems to have Socrates’ terminal problem of following his Daimon wherever it takes him and calling it as he sees it — viz. he’s a more honest specimen.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

There has been talk about this on Pete Quinones’ show (you can find him on odysee), where some of his guests are watching and commenting on what they call the “Paypal Mafia,” consisting of Musk, Cobra, Peter Thiel et al.

Not that these billionaires have an ideology most of us would approve of, but it appears that they are appalled at what’s going on with our rulers, and they have the money to make things happen.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

From way out in left field, the kosherkin are an Aryan-African mix, while the curries are an Aryan-Australoid mix.

Hard to tell who will out-jew who.

Leavening Erectus tribal social instincts with White intelligence creates a lethal competitor to us…just smart and callous enough to be dangerous.

The bridging from lowest to highest is broken branches.
Still, I’m voting for the curry. They preserved a butt-ton more of our lost knowledge, and they don’t have a God of vengeance with a hard-on against Esau and Amalek on the brain.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

None of them are on our side. Disrupting the system is good, but replacing the current ‘elite’ with a younger and less White one will only prolong the pain.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

CoSC-

Have you seen the ridiculous Nvida chip transfer story they are trying to bash Musk with?

How pathetic can these people get?

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  FNC1A1
14 days ago

Turchin certainly shows the history of elite (and self-styled) elite competition. But I’m not sure his theory proves what the outcome of that competition will be. It could be argued that we already had the big intra-Elite competition and that the Woke dipsh*ts won.

B125
B125
14 days ago

It’s hard to say what the “Left’s” goal is. They’ve successfully replaced white people in most facets of society. Unskilled labour – Hispanics. White collar – Indians, Chinese. The mentality from the Boomer leftists/centrists in power seems to be that they are great statesmen, high above all the racial politics, wonderful saviours, ushering in a new era of harmony and diversity. And their only priority seems to be to bring in as much diversity as possible. They are just morons and will be replaced soon by their own imports. The question is, what happens with the leftover white people. In… Read more »

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  B125
14 days ago

It’s hard to say what the “Left’s” goal is.So what happens to us? It’s really quite easy to figure out what will happen, esp. when you think about the reproduction rate of “white” Christians and the progs’ neurosis about “racism”. The progs are ever afraid of setbacks and recidivism, and their own mentality will make them frightened that the diversity is unequal to the task of preventing recidivism to conditions of, say, the 19th century. The progs’ mortality, their secularism, and their awareness of their own low birth rates will make them frantic to lock in their gains while moving… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  B125
14 days ago

So what happens to us?…”

Flip the question. What happens to those that are geriatric, do not breed, lie with their own sex … (see: do not breed.)

What happens when those they wish to usurp refuse to sacrifice their young to the gods of war? Refuse to go to movies? Vote? Refuse to eat out?

Refuse to have anything to do with them?

No wonder they behave like cornered rats.

I'm not left handed either
I'm not left handed either
14 days ago

I remember Reagan’s solution called “mainstreaming” which closed down the halfway houses which served to bridge the gap between prison and re-integration into society, sheltered workshops that kept idle retarded little hands busy, and mental institutions for those too addled to behave in a civilized manner, or to remember to take their psycho-meds on a daily basis, so now we have the leftovers and left-outs homeless on every street corner and loonies twirling from the lampposts and attacking the public. It might have cost more in taxes to do it the right way, and then we would also have a… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  I'm not left handed either
14 days ago

Problem is those things largely didn’t work. People didn’t want halfway houses in their neighborhoods because they were filled with recidivists. Despite the “best” efforts of group therapy, pharmaceuticals, and electroshock, shrinks contributed absolutely nothing to making people better — shrinks only work if the patients aren’t too screwed up to start with.

It’s not just that it would cost more taxes. It’s that it would cost more taxes with nothing to show for it.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  I'm not left handed either
14 days ago

Reagan did not close down mental institutions—and probably most of what you state—as those are under the purview of the States. What shut down the mental institutions was money hungry State legislatures and the promise of psychoactive drugs to “treat” mental illness outside of institutionalization. Mainstreaming was also not entirely a product of the Reagan administration. This pernicious idea was pushed at State level by any number of progressives of the time. It most affected the typical citizen through the local school system, where all sorts of “special needs” students were placed out of specialized education and into typical classrooms… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Exacerbation is exasperating…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Yeah, I just caught that one. I’ll leave it in. Thanks.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Mainstreaming was just something that pretty much everyone could agree on, even though it was not exactly Federal. That was back in the day when at least people could more or less admit that what they had wasn’t working.

I think Reagan can be fairly blamed for using Federal money to whip the states into adopting policies, starting with his withholding road tax from states who would not impose 21 drinking age, and continuing with the War on Drugs, the War on Education, and the War on Medical Care (EMTALA).

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

I could never understand why we send retarded children to school. It is pointless. It’s a super expensive babysitting service. Keep in mind that it’s not like we send them to 3 years of elementary school to learn the most basic of basics like signing their name and other basic tasks. Classrooms for them exist all the way to the end of jr high, at least when I was in school. There might have been high school classes for them too, but that they were all bused to some central school for retarded children and so I just didn’t see… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

Yep, wrt special needs children it seems to stem from the parents refusal to consider “little Johnny” as *different*. However, school systems also were at fault for poor special needs education. What we find now is the hiring of special teachers’ aids to handle “little Johnny” so he’s not too disruptive on his other classmates.

Disruption in the classroom is the number one problem in our public schools. One that gets suppressed because it’s so closely tied to our minority population growth. The Obama administration also threatened school systems for disciplining minorities in k-12.

CFOmally
CFOmally
14 days ago

I was watching “Leave it to Beaver” this morning while reading this post. Can’t we have just a little bit of the 50s back? I’m old enough to have seen just a glimpse of that golden age. sigh

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  CFOmally
14 days ago

Yeah, I keep hearing that the 50’s are not coming back as a sop to get us moving into the future. What future? How shall we shape such? Are not moral and ethical values timeless? Yeah, they may not be others’ values, but should that mean we abandon them in our future ideal (White) state?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

Agreed. We just need to embrace reality. Ain’t gonna be no national white ethno-state, not for a long time. Much as I hate to admit it, there will be no barges headed east out of Norfolk in even my grandkids’ lifespans.

The best case I see is we can have some holdout areas where we maintain some of our moral and ethical values. That will have to involve figuring out how to bring the diversity over to our side when (not if) they are forced on us.

No Lefty Here
No Lefty Here
14 days ago

Reagan beating Carter triggered many Dems in the DC area, employed by the Feds in various Departments, Bureaus and Commissions, to decamp to the provinces. They saw the handwriting on the wall and brought their proggie views, before those were widely recognized, and infected field offices. I, along with many of your readers, saw variations on that theme. Thus an early element of what we now know as the Deep State offered its own contribution to that Long March Through The Institutions. Those DC refugees typically left relatively high-paying jobs (e.g., GS-14) to parachute into, say, GS-12 or -13 positions… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
14 days ago

There were elements of the institutional left that opposed Reagan.”

Memories…Got me thinking as I am old enough to remember the election. What were the knocks on Reagan as compared to today.

Reagan was a divorced man! Reagan was a “movie actor”. Reagan was too old. Reagan was a know nothing, but good at the “part”. Reagan falls asleep at cabinet meetings. And so on.

All I can say is what a difference 40 years makes. What were considered disqualifications then are now de rigueur in politics.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
14 days ago

I’m very sympathetic to everyone in this thread poo-poohing the Fourth Turning cliches. That said, there won’t be any reform until there’s generational change and a major crisis. Max Planck’s dictum that “Science progresses one funeral at a time” certainly applies to politics too. All the gerontocrats running things aren’t going to crap their diapers and suddenly awaken to the fact they’ve screwed everything up and they need to step aside. It could be argued that Victorian England was the only system to generate meaningful internal reform without a crisis in the last 500 years. Pitt the Younger had all… Read more »

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
14 days ago

OT: On Zman’s favorite sports – women’s basketball 🙂

Whoopi Goldberg defends flagrant foul on Caitlin Clark: ‘This is basketball!’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/whoopi-goldberg-defends-flagrant-foul-013013191.html

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
14 days ago

Elbow to the eye socket usually cures those fouls.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
14 days ago

“Today the dollar is under pressure mostly due to Washington perfidy.” It acelerated an underlying process but that process of de-dollarisation existed in robust fashion before 2022. The US economy has been an ever smaller fraction of the global economy and in addition the debt overhang that has snowballed in order to maintain USA’s global military hegemony over the last two decades or more, and the inability to keep interest rates even at the rate of true inflation, has made holding US financial assets increasingly unattractive. This loss of reserve status — and the concomitant of the dollar being under… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Arshad Ali
14 days ago

The “BRICS ratio.”

1 barrel of oil = 1 gram of gold.

The summary is, slipping a fake Fedbux IOU inbetween commodities – our famous “reserve currency” schtick – causes wild swings in the float, because the price is tethered to the IOU, not the availability of the commodity.

The BRICS are pegging commodity to commodity, with gold backing as an anchor.
Very stable. Not subject to the unpredictable swings of the United States club.

When the crazy guy starts waving a gun around, people start heading for the exits, fast. The BRICS just unlocked the exit door.

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Willie
Willie
Reply to  Arshad Ali
14 days ago

The empire was a drain on Britain just as the GAE saps America. Certain groups benefit from it but the aggregate is negative.

Interesting how certain people on the Right will use Leftist arguments.

Whiskey
Whiskey
14 days ago

There is a bunch of history that is applicable. Rwanda, 1994. Cambodia, 1975-79. Armenia, 1917. Some various combinations are our immediate future. It is looking like it will be lawfare, all the way down. Maxine Waters, wants trials for Trump donors, voters, and supporters. She is quite likely to get them. Meanwhile Hunter’s first trial is fixed with friends of Dr. Jill and ex addicts and ex Secret Service all on the jury. The Canadian Trucker donors had their bank accounts all seized. No reason the same will not happen to Trump donors and pretty much all YT people. “The… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
14 days ago

The Hunter trial coming immediately on the heels of the Trump trial tells me Hunter will be found guilty. Then the narrative will be “See? The rule of law is fair and impartial. Even the president’s son is not above it.” And then it’s open season for draconian punishment of Trump by this proven fair legal system. Followed immediately by the GOP nominating a different candidate, probably Bloody Nikki. If the fix is in for Hunter to be acquitted, then why bring him to trial at all? And why now? It’s not as if the media would say boo about… Read more »

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
14 days ago

One count of lying on a 4473? Five year max, most likely suspended. For much the same reason that Trump is arguing selective prosecution — they only prosecute around 30 (that’s 30, not 30 thousand) of the roughly 80 thousand 4473 violations every year, and almost all of those prosecutions are enhancements for another felony.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Whiskey
14 days ago

I think the only winning play for Trump is to sell off all his NY assets as fast as possible, then give them the finger. Don’t go to sentencing. Go hold a massive rally in Texas or Florida on the 11th. What is NY going to do about it? Send their State Police to Texas and face the Rangers, or maybe the National Guard?

That kind of overreach would absolutely cement Trump’s election. And then come January, stop every block grant, all federal support for NY. People are sick and tired of the fuggin’ crybullies.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
14 days ago

The group that the current ruling elite idealizes actually does have a solution. Post WW2, the Allies oversaw massive population transfers all over the world. Germans disappeared from everywhere east of the Oder-Neisse. Muslims vanished from the subcontinent. Russians, white and red, vanished into gulags. Palestinians vanished from Israel.

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Willie
Willie
Reply to  Tykebomb
14 days ago

“Muslims vanished from the subcontinent.”

The largest Muslim population in the world is in India.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Willie
13 days ago

Yes, but Clement Atlee gave the opium-producing Raj to the Muslims.
Pakistan is an artificial state cobbled together from Pashtun-Afghan-Kurd-Iranian kingdoms. Thus the current Sikh fight over Kashmir.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

The difference between Trump and Reagan is that Trump is reflective of the Wallace wing of conservatism and Reagan was reflective of a Buckley/Goldwater type of conservatism.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

More than that. Reagan was a great speaker and had a civilized comportment. Trump is childish by comparison. Not a Regan fanboy nor a Trump hater; but truly the men who wish to rule us are symptomatic of the political class.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

True. Trump is an exceedingly coarse man for an exceedingly coarse age.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

I think that’s a good thing. That whole shining city on a hill thing I find to be angering. Like get your head out of the f–king sand.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

It is the age I lament, not its byproducts.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

Yep, who else can address in a speech an electorate audience using four letter words? We are indeed a fallen society. Years ago elites elevated speech to cut a person down. A clever wit was deadly. We fill books with such quotes. Today, the best of us (?) seems to be a as coarse as a sailor in a bar.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
14 days ago

It’s all part of “liberation,” and the demolition of taboos. A society gets everything it permits. AINO permits everything that is crass, foul and hideous, while rejecting all that is refined, pure and beautiful.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

And are we not talking about the rise and fall of all previous great civilizations?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Auld Mark
14 days ago

I imagine so.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

Putting aside the fact that Trump is a rather vulgar man, he is also a pretty plain spoken man. I will take plain spoken vulgarity over the pretty lies of the ruling elite in both parties. Leftists like to pretend that we don’t see Trump’s flaws and are enamored by his BSing. The fact that most of the “plain” people in America see him as a savior really says a lot about our leaders. While Trump may be all the things they say, he doesn’t drone on about how wonderful “diversity” is while bombing the 3rd world. Though one can… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

most of the “plain” people in America see him as a savior”

Yep, I like the idea posed that Trump is a populist and that his support is really a populist uprising against the elites, not really against one party or another. A sort of pox on both houses, burn the house down movement—although perhaps his rank and file don’t quite see themselves that way. In this manner of thinking I have no problem supporting him and have said so in the past. I can criticize and yet with good conscience vote for him.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

But there was overlap. In 64 Goldwater won the states Wallace won in 68.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

I wasn’t alive when Reagan was president so take me with a grain of sand.

My gut instinct is that the successor ideology to reaganism is ted cruz Ron desantis style “true conservatism” which I’ve never much liked.

Trumps worldview is less dogmatic and more a smorgasbord of various stuff.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

The thing to keep in mind about those two guys, and many like them (eg Rubio) is that they’re play acting. The highest compliment they can get is to be called “Reaganesque” by Peggy Noonan (who was a Reagan speechwriter that milked Conservative Inc for decades). They’re the people Zman is talking about when he refers to old men reciting lines from 50 years ago. Trump’s worldview represents a smashing of the post Civil War D vs R status quo. On many issues he’s not much different than Bernie Sanders. They agree on the problem, but not the solution. On… Read more »

john smyth
john smyth
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
14 days ago

Reagan had a sense of humor and it wasn’t just an act. After getting shot, his joke about hoping his doctors were Republican demonstrated a human side the stuffed shirt robots like Ted Cruz or DeSantis just don’t have.

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Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

Didn’t the trade deficit explode under Ronald Reagan? I recall also that this was a time with peak anti-auto-worker sentiment with constant bellyaching about how much money these union workers were making. It was a way of blaming blue color workers for the endless regulations driving up the cost of auto production.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 days ago

Trade deficits are not that simple. It’s just inflationary fiscal and/or monetary policy with insufficient domestic production to sop up the excess cash sloshing around. Spending under Reagan doubled. But with high consumer sentiment, people were willing to spend this newfound “wealth”.

The complaints about unions were also more involved. Why buy an American lemon when you can buy a more or less defect-free Datsun for half the money? Thus, the quotas and tariffs on Japanese vehicles, like @Zman is referring to.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
13 days ago

It was a way of blaming blue color workers for the endless regulations”
A remarkably insightful observation, that,

duttchmn007
duttchmn007
14 days ago

Watched both conventions that year not quite 8yrs old. Remember the Dem convention especially because The Chappaquiddick Olympian was all over the place trying to snare the nomination out from under Jimmy Carter. My takeaway @ the tender age of 8yrs old: Democrats are insane & Republicans @ least try to deal with reality.

Still the same today although I ditched the R party to be an independent; thank Shrub II & his WMD lies/Dept of Homeland Security for that.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  duttchmn007
14 days ago

Man, you’re a seriously hardcore political junkie. When I was 7 years old (1974), the Watergate trials were on TV in the afternoon and my mom watched them constantly. I just rolled my eyes, heaved sighs of disgusted boredom, and decamped to the great outdoors to play guns with my little buddies. I didn’t become remotely political until about the age of 16.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

In high school, I was napping on the couch.

I felt a great disturbance in the Force; waking up, I saw the tv was on, and watched Nixon announce his resignation,

Then, I fell back asleep, as if drained.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
14 days ago

How interesting, not done reading yet. I remember! The Reagan boom was when we reached working age. The 50’s and early 60’s boom was when we were being born and starting school. The whole country was building hospitals and starter homes, and making baby clothes, and selling baby shoes, and dentists and parks and schools, and roads and factories to supply all this, stuff for all these little kids. Kids underfoot everywhere. You see all those old skyscrapers in New York? Know what they were for? They weren’t offices and banks and such. They were filled with ladies at sewing… Read more »

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Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

I grew up in the late 50s-early 60s on a farm 9 miles from a town with about 1,800 people. A clothing manufacturer had factory there where a couple dozen farm wives could earn some extra income sewing baby clothing. The plant was unionized–ALGWU–but these were rural Midwesterners who worked hard and had no demands other than that their paychecks came on time.

Not long after Kennedy’s 4% ruling, the plant shut down. Not because of the union, as a libertarian would claim, but because nobody in America was going to work in a sweatshop for 10 cents an hour.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

People could still have the dosh to go bowling. They just choose to have 2+ cell phones, Netflix, internet, fast food, air conditioning, a car for every adult, etc. People have chosen a lifestyle of golden handcuffs.

I’m not saying they are making the wrong choice; it’s none of my business what they choose. Just emphasizing that it is a choice.

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Forever Templar
Forever Templar
14 days ago

Demographically, America is like the film World War Z where the new vibrancy is scaling the walls. No one knows what to do about it, other than build the walls higher.”

Wrong and even more wrong. There was no wall to begin with, neither literally nor metaphorically, and the zombies already breached the lines long ago. As far as not knowing what to do about it, well, shucks, Z, it’s not knowing but not wanting to do anything about.

Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble
14 days ago

When I first saw the title of today’s post, I was hoping for an essay on WW2 revisionism. Maybe next time…

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Barney Rubble
14 days ago

It could certainly use some.