When Prophecy Fails

Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, the logic of the West has rested on the theory that the Russians cannot sustain a long war. In the winter of 2022 the argument was summed up by Francis Fukuyama in this legendarily wrong post. In that post he claimed the Russian army was about to collapse at any minute and maybe take the Putin government down with it. He then followed up on that claim with a similar post, in which he claimed to have been right, amazingly enough.

It is tempting to dismiss Fukuyama as just another brazen hustler that circulates around the managerial class, but he is one of the more successful ones. His famous book, The End of History and the Last Man, was a massive best seller primarily because he pushed all the right buttons for the post-Cold War elites. It was massively successful flattery because the people being flattered believed it. They continue to believe it, which is why they maintain a bellicose foreign policy.

Put another way, these grifters passing themselves off as intellectuals tell us something about the system that hosts them, but also the people they flatter. Fukuyama gets to travel around the empire passing as a sage, because the people hosting him think he is right and that is because they want him to be right. Meanwhile, a guy who has been consistently right, John Mearsheimer, gets called mean names, mostly because he is right and the people calling him names hate him for it.

This blinkered view is how we got the war in Ukraine. This almost religious belief that the triumph of the West in the Cold War was the beginning of the final journey into the promised land, the end of history, has shaped imperial policy, both foreign and domestic, for decades. Fukuyama wrote his book in 1992 and others have been building on it ever since. In his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard, Zbigniew Brzezinski argued for the breaking up of Russia to finish the Cold War.

In other words, the war in Ukraine is not something that happened for no reason at all, but rather it is the product of a messianic outlook in the West that has existed since at least the end of the Cold War. In fact, the war looks like it comes right from the Western playbook to undermine and topple the Putin government. This study by the RAND Corporation, the most important think tank in the empire, talks specifically about this type of project as a tool to destabilize Russia.

The point of all this is to properly frame the war as part of the overall belief system of the West, rather than just something that happened for no reason at all. Washington expected this war because they had been planning for it for decades. Even though they were wrong in most of their assumptions, there is no reason to think that belief structure has changed. History shows that believers do not abandon their beliefs when faced with disconfirmation. They just believe harder.

That is important to understand when thinking about what comes next. The micro-countries of NATO are now yapping about war with Russia. Hilariously, tiny Estonia is offering security guarantees to Ukraine. The Estonia military is about the size of the Las Vegas police department and probably just as lethal. Lithuania is now inviting in the Germans to build defensive structures for the assumed Russian attack. Perhaps the Germans will bring their broomsticks with them.

The reason these small players are making these noises is the same reason Fukuyama wrote a book, calling the people he wished to flatter, the deliverers of mankind from the clutches of irrationality. These micro-countries organize their foreign affairs around flattering the powerful. Without NATO, Kaja Kallas is as well-known as the mayor of Wichita, but in NATO she can stand on the big stage, just as long as she tells Washington what they wish to hear.

This is what makes the moment so dangerous. Kallas is a simpleton, but an obsequious simpleton, so she often speaks the truth about her masters. Washington has no plan for ending the war other than the total defeat of Russia, something that can only happen if they launch nuclear weapons. The current debate about letting Ukraine use NATO weapons to attack inside Russia is mostly about normalizing the idea of NATO attacking inside Russia, something the Russians will never tolerate.

Compounding all of this is the fact that Ukraine is slowly being ground down by the Russian war machine. All of Ukraine is now forced to ration electricity. Major cities have long blackouts due to the lack of energy. The Ukraine army is desperate for soldiers, but all of the men have gone into hiding to avoid being grabbed off the streets and sent directly to the front. These raw “recruits” are being trained at the front, which means thrown into a trench with a rifle and a few grenades.

The point is we will soon see something like what Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter described in their study of a UFO cult. Western political leaders have been assured for decades that the promised land lies just after the final disillusion of Russia, which will come any day now. Like the people waiting for the space aliens, they have been waiting for regime change in Russia. Instead, they may be facing angry mobs outside their own palaces as the project collapses.

We live in an age of wonders, but the greatest wonder to be revealed will be when the regime realizes that the future promised to them by the neocons and their fellow travelers was never going to be reality. When the Ukraine army starts to buckle and the politics in Kiev become violent, how will the West react? Will reality suddenly descend upon Washington, or will they do like the cult members in When Prophesy Fails and find some way to internalize it and keep the faith?


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Mycale
Mycale
13 days ago

I listen to John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs on Glenn Greenwald’s show. They are on the show quite often, and I am sure a big reason for that is that nobody in the mainstream media has any interest in talking to them. They have both been correct about this war from the beginning. Now, while I think they are both intelligent men, it’s not because they are prophets. It is because this outcome was incredibly easy to predict for anyone who is outside of the imperial court (something both of them have acknowledged). After the Snake Island/Ghost of Kiev stuff,… Read more »

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Mycale
13 days ago

They both regularly talk to Andrew Napolitano and the Duran guys as well.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

Mycale: “I listen to John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs on Glenn Greenwald’s show.”

I hate to always be the spoil sport, but you do realize that this would be

(((Mearsheimer))) and (((Sachs))) and (((Greenwald)))?

Right?

Bueller?

Anyone?

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Bourbon
13 days ago

Mearshimer isn’t jooish

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
12 days ago

Sorry, Bro, but the various genealogical tables would tend to argue otherwise.

[I checked before I poasted.]

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Bourbon
12 days ago

Then his tribe must be mighty displeased with what he’s saying about them.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Bourbon
12 days ago

Yes, obviously (except not Mearsheimer). Ron Unz is too, but I am pretty sure most of us on this side read his website and find it invaluable. So I don’t see someone being Jewish as instantly disqualifying or whatever this is supposed to mean.

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Bilejones
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Reply to  Mycale
12 days ago

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Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Mycale
12 days ago

Mycale: “So I don’t see someone being Jewish as instantly disqualifying or whatever this is supposed to mean.

This is why we lose.

You simply cannot extend the olive branch of indubiousness to the Ne Plus Ultra mesmerizers.

That’s how they pull the wool over your eyes, Bro.

They don’t play by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules.

Sigh.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

We all fall for the “op” that’s made specially for us.

jkloi
jkloi
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

Then they aren’t really nationalists, are they? Lap dog vassals like the Estonian bitch are not nationalists. Even the fatass vindman and the other dual passport freaks aren’t nationalists. Those who would sacrifice their nation at the feet of the freaks on the potomac and the hudson don’t deserve to be called nationalists.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  jkloi
13 days ago

Just so. How can turning over your nation’s sovereignty to a foreign power be considered nationalism? In point of fact, it’s a form of treason.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

I lived in Tallinn for a time, before they became part of the EU. Native Estonians, especially the older ones, do not like Russians, to put it mildly, and I sympathize. Their entire history has been domination by one country or another, but the Soviet domination was by far the worst. They look at that, and then look at the sodomy flag, and choose the sodomy flag. I think their reasoning is we can ignore the sodomites all we want, and stay away from Muslim imports all we want, but the Russian military and secret police is really fucking scary.… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
13 days ago

This is true, unfortunately. The people of the former Warsaw Pact resent the hell out of Russia. However, I’m not sure why they don’t simply toe a neutral line between Russia and the BFE. Hell, why not reformulate the Warsaw Pact sans Russia?

Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Reviving the interwar Intermarium idea after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but before the United States became GloboHomo’s wrecking ball, able to achieve nonalignment and counterbalance East and West might have been possible but the time has passed now. It would have taken very adroit diplomacy which was in short supply.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Poland, yes. Romania, maybe. But, I’m not so sure the same can be said for some of the other Warsaw pact countries like Hungary and Czechoslovakia. And absolutely the person on the street of most other Orthodox countries such as Bulgaria is going to be pro-russian.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

How is Plovdiv these days?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

I get the sense Romania is rabidly anti-Russian. Of the former Warsaw Pact and Near Abroad countries, Bulgaria, Byelorus and Serbia are the only ones I can confidently say are pro-Russian. All of the countries in the WP/NA have far more in common with Russia than the BFE, but the scars of Soviet domination, unfortunately, seem to override that fact.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Serbia, absolutely. Both the government and the people. Bulgaria, Macedonia and Montenegro I think have pro Western puppet governments, but the man on the street is very sympathetic to Russia. I think even Greeks are sympathetic to Russia, but I’m guessing their government is also run by the west.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

Serbia won’t soon forget what the US did to them in the 90s.

Croatia is one I don’t know about.

Albania has tended to be quite pro-American.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

I’m skeptical about the Roman Catholic countries. They don’t have the same kind of emotional bond with Russia that Orthodox countries have.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
12 days ago

Just realized Albania’s chief religion, by a wide margin, is Islam. Probably not a good thing for Islam to have such a toehold–Albania/Bosnia/Kosovo–in Europe.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Of course they are pro-american. This affords the greatest possibilities for their favored transnatonal criminality.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Marko
13 days ago

Why in any sane world would the Baltic midgets join NATO? Russia was no threat to them at the time and joining an alliance when you’re on the front lines of that alliance against their only foe is suicidally stupid. Stay neutral and out of the affairs of other nations. They are no more than a speedbump for Russia and a free-fire zone for their so-called allies. If there is a war, I guarantee there will more casualties from NATO action than Russian. Some nations shouldn’t exist, they’re too stupid and suicidal.

Cmhi
Cmhi
Reply to  Marko
13 days ago

These countries get an enormous flow of money from the wealthiest EU countries; that’s why nothing could make them as happy as being ushered in.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Marko
12 days ago

but the Soviet domination was by far the worst.

And the worst of the Soviet domination was under Stalin, A non-Russian.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Back in the early 90’s when the US decided to build a new Embassy in the former communist country from which my parents came, I was elated. I thought it would be good for that country to become a part of the western share in all the luxuries and the standard of living we all enjoy. I thought it would be good for them. Now I look at the US presence as a cancer in the Balkans. I would love for them to pull a Niger and throw them out. The world has fallen apart since then and we deserve… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

I now look at the US presence in Europe as a cancer. We were in a moderately sized city in Spain where there was McDonald’s, Burger King and a new KFC. It’s embarrassing and gross – all the garbage this country has exported around the world – to say nothing of death and destruction. I hardly want to even identify as American…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
13 days ago

Even more barbaric than the sleazy corporations AINO exports is the anti-white ideology it exports.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  usNthem
12 days ago

Agreed. Luckily you don’t have to identify as “American” since that doesn’t really exist anymore.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  jkloi
13 days ago

I wonder if Vindman doesn’t actually have three passports.

Member
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

They match the number of his chins.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

Occasionally, I watch Bill Krystol’s youtube channel to get an idea of what’s going on in neocon mind. I guarantee you that they view Project Ukraine as a success and will be more than happy to start another project someplace else when this is done.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

Make Involuntary Aliyah Great Again

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

I highly recommend you put on some garlic or a cross or something before listening to him.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
13 days ago

Not going to lie. It’s tough to watch those guys. You can just feel the contempt that they have for Dirt People like us. They really hate us and can’t hide it.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

Yea too bad we don’t hate them back hard enough so we don’t get genocided…

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

I wondered that myself, it seemed to be obvious that in order for the United States and NATO to win a war on Russia’s own border would require military strikes inside Russia.
Well now thats where we are at.
On the brink of a world war we cant win unless we use nuclear weapons.
And even then, no one wins.
And its horrifying to think our moron rulers just might go there.
Some of the nationalists we all know got this completely wrong.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
13 days ago

I’ve lost so much respect for our nation. Growing up thinking that we are the good guys who would never do anything so stupid that Could destroy humanity and now realizing that we’re more likely to be the aggressors is very unsettling.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
13 days ago

How does it feel to be a subject of the Evil Empire?

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Must be ok with most Brother because they don’t want something else…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
13 days ago

They’re too obtuse to understand the true nature of AINO or even that it is AINO. Grillerville is the capital Ignorancestan.

pie
pie
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

it feels dirty, like my daily job is to muck the droppings of lunatics who insist on eating their daily helping on shxxt.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

“I was not working from secret knowledge, but stating the obvious. “ Au Contraire, not to flatter, but to point out that “the obvious” is not always so obvious to the common man. Such takes knowledge, experience and intellect, from there comes what we term “common sense”. ”With people of limited ability, modesty is merely honesty. But with those who possess great talent, it is hypocrisy.” Arthur Schopenhauer You maintain and grow an audience here because you see and comment on things other do not, or cannot put into words. You are most often correct so you retain such audience. Accept… Read more »

Cmhi
Cmhi
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

I think most of us believed a Russia collapse when the hyper-sanctions were visited on them.

That is what Empire relied on as they long-proven, never-failing, device of victory.
They somehow and for a short time menaced China to second that or else; had China made the wrong choice there, Russia would have collapsed, without the need for a military defeat.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Cmhi
12 days ago

The Chinese were too smart for that; they realized that they would ne next. So, they elected to be in it to win it.

Are they or Russia my ideal? No, but they are different peoples trying to be true to themselves and their cultures. This is admirable in my book. As a nation state we no longer hew to that guiding principle because of our enforced demographic replacement, so we face the need to reassemble as a People – separating from our purported nation – as our only way to recover this estate.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Mycale
13 days ago

I use the Edge homepage on my computer because I’m too lazy to change it. They still have stories on it about 1000s of Russians killed daily, 70 or so tanks, 45 artillery pieces, multiple jets shot down, ships sunk and all that without any verification. 404 says it so it must be true. Today there was one about a strategic bomber downed which is absolute bs because they don’t have to be close to the line to do what they do. This is the first war ever in which success is measured by PR victories for one side. The… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Mike
13 days ago

There is obviously a concerted effort to push this propaganda across the internet, including on X and dark corners of the internet. That’s what you get when you have people in charge who believe in magical thinking, that their words bring reality into existence. The obvious question – if Ukraine is winning, why are they losing? – is uncouth. You look at this ridiculous “peace summit” that Zelenskyyyyyyy is hyping, you look at the “peace plan” he is putting out there (return of all territory including Crimea, reparations for war costs, and handover of Russian leaders for war crimes prosecution),… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Mycale
13 days ago

We can’t take control of the wheel Brother because the steering wheel got tore off a long time ago but what we can do is jump off of the insane clown bus…Thing is most peoples seats are too comfy, the AC still works, the galley is still serving food, etc etc…The ground also looks like it has some rocks and cactus on it so it might hurt to jump now and we are going pretty fast so let’s wait until it slows down a bit and come on who’s to say if there even is a cliff…So sit back and… Read more »

Last edited 13 days ago by Lineman
Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Lineman
13 days ago

So sit back and we will try to get with the other passengers and elect a new bus driver and try to ignore the flat tire, the brakes that are gone, and that high piercing sound of an engine that’s about to blow…”

And hit the ground under a table when you see the flash…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
13 days ago

Heh. Yes, AINO is a Trenton hooptie with black smoke and oil pouring from the tailpipe, a busted windshield, no brake lights, two donut spares on the front and a broken curb feeler dangling from the right rear. But, hey, it’s got a bumpin’ system!

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Mike
13 days ago

You got to get out of there and do a bit of work getting a good news and commentary feed.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  David Wright
13 days ago

I don’t watch any of that stuff, I glance at it just to remind myself how evil has taken over the world.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Mike
13 days ago

This is the US!!! We’re quite used to winning the battles and losing the war. This will be no different than Vietnam or Afghanistan or Iraq. We’ll declare victory and then run away.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mike
13 days ago

The only way they can make the world a better place is by stepping in front of a subway train.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Self Immolation works as well Brother…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
13 days ago

I certainly wouldn’t dump a bucket of water on them…

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Mike
13 days ago

This is the first war ever in which success is measured by PR victories for one side.”

That’s because the ruling class selects for high verbal IQ men who have never been punched in the nose.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Mike
12 days ago

I noticed, too when the microsoft news blip comes up on my computer inadvertently, it feature a lot of war/military/ukraine stuff. Way more than the situation warrants.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mycale
13 days ago

Sachs was just on Tucker and the Duran. If you have to pick, go with Tucker.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Mycale
13 days ago

2 years ago, a guy I work with who speaks fluent Russian and was an attaché there for years gave me a rundown on how Russia would lose. I was polite, and just shook my head and said, “I doubt it. Let’s see what happens.” Flash forward a year+ and we’re on the topic again. He asked me how I had known it would drag out like this with Ukraine taking heavy losses. I told him, “Because I wake up every morning and ask myself one question: how are they lying to me today?” His eyebrows raised, because he simply… Read more »

pie
pie
Reply to  Hokkoda
13 days ago

well done

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Hokkoda
12 days ago

You did God’s work , but only because you had prepared the ground for your little green shoots of Noticing to gain their first, tenuous rooting.

Vizzini
Member
13 days ago

Kaja Kallas — another insipid girlboss like the ones that bumbled Sweden and Finland into NATO membership.

If there’s anyone left to crawl out of the ruins, one hopes they rethink this women’s suffrage business.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Vizzini
13 days ago

Unfortunately, clown world’s myths will most likely outlive clown world. The ruins will be blamed on not enough dieversity, not enough girl power etc, and that can go on for a good while. If we lack strength, then it must be because we do not have enough dieversity, because dieversity IS our strength.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
13 days ago

I doubt that. How many communists are there in modern-day Russia? Post-WWII, you couldn’t find anyone who would say that they ever supported the Nazis. When ideological empires fail, their ideology disappears with them.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  AntiDem
13 days ago

About 500k, according a Britannica reference posted by Wikipedia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Russian_Federation

Mike
Mike
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
13 days ago

Yeah but, Russian Communists are Russian first. Our commies are not of us, they want to serve the trans-national elite. I imagine that Russian commies are more LARPers than real-life Communists.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  AntiDem
13 days ago

I was born 5 years after VE day.

When I was in my teens and twenties, I met lots of older Germans who, after a few beers, would easily relate how 1934-1942 was the apex of human happiness, usually because “everyone had a place, everyone belonged, and everyone knew who they were and what theyj were supposed to do”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
13 days ago

Good gods, you’re right. Nature doesn’t give a flying fudge about how Whites feel about being the “fair flowers meant to be spread.” In the longest scheme of things, we’re just a stage in development too.

Well, at least I got to be there. Can’t ever take that away from me, or from the eternal memory of immortals like near everyone else here. You guys will seed Whiteness into all the new worlds to be born. Cool, that.

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
13 days ago

I think it may be a winning issue if it’s joined with the end of universal suffrage in general. Most of the schemes I’ve seen pitched would exclude me as well (not a veteran, kids are grown, etc.) which I don’t have an issue with as it would be nice for someone to have a say in the government rather than the current situation of no one.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
13 days ago

Knowing what an idiot I was at 35, and everyone else I know was at 35, it would be an incredibly stupid idea to disenfranchise the “olds”. There’s a reason boards of directors used to be old white men — they had seen or even made many of the mistakes that destroy companies, and learned from it.

Not that I expect anything intelligent to emerge from what is essentially random lashing out in anger at everything, but it does remind me that there are worse things than clown world. Boards being filled with 12 YO trannies?

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

Life is trade-offs. How else to deal with gerontocracy,

This is why we shouldn’t extend the franchise to arificial legal fictions, either- PACs, activists, lobbies, modern corporations, foundations.

The neolibertarian ideal that every dog should bark leaves us wide open ro giving the people’s power under the States away.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Utopia is not an option.

Look at the Faggot Parades. How many of the Gerontocracy do you see represented there? Why would anyone assume that putting in charge a demographic more attuned with faggotry would have a better outcome?

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

Touché! Power for one’s people must be hoarded carefully, not given away. Preserved for the next link in the chain, the next generations and the families that make them.

Your point goes for recent foreigners as well, does it not?

Sold out by our own for the 30 pieces offered them. The end of that lesson goes unlearned by the ruling classes, because the alpha monkey at the top of the tree only sees the other alphas trying to knock him out of the top branches.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
12 days ago

The lesson is never learned in government because no one has to personally bear the cost of bad choices.

Same point @Zman makes about managers. Though managers tend to be much more accountable than government workers.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

Earned suffrage is not necessarily completely determined through absolutes—example, age. It might very well that some geriatrics retain their voting rights in spite of age. The discussion needs to start.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

But why not skip the whole sufferage thing entirely? It’s all still rooted in the delusion that if we get the right guys in office, everything will be fine.

A leader is someone who leads, not someone who is elected by people who won’t.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
13 days ago

Becoming the world leader seems to foster these delusional cults amongst the elites..In 1914, a handful of British elites, including Churchill, dragged England and its small and poorly equipped army into an all out war with Germany’s powerful army and superb Krupp artillery…And they promised that the boys would be home by Christmas, because England never loses..4 years later, 1.1 million men dead, and bankrupt, they got the worthless Versailles treaty…This pattern has doubtless repeated many times in history…

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  pyrrhus
13 days ago

Imagine where Great Britain would be now if they just stayed out of WWI, or at least realized their mistake and stayed out of WWII. They handed over imperial superiority to the united States to get into a useless brother war.

One of the most interesting part of WWII was FDR’s realization that he could suck Great Britain dry and establish U.S. as a global power in its stead. Love or hate the guy, he played an incredible political game.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

Great Britain and France both were stripped of all colonies at the end of WWII. DeGaul knew exactly what was going down. (Macron is today’s opposite type of Frenchman, the globalist lapdog variety.) Anyway, all the blather about self-determination and “democracy” was just obfuscation gas. The current NATO attack poodles would do well to remember that Poland was handed off to Stalin, like a door prize.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  AnotherAnon
13 days ago

The timelines are a bit short here. The writing was on the wall, but the colonies peeled off throughout the late 40’s through the early 60’s. And in many cases, only after the colonies rose up in rebellion.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  pyrrhus
13 days ago

Well, somebody *did* win that war. The centuries old European elites were destroyed and new elites, as described by Coudenhove-Kalergi, ascended. It only took one more world war to finalize the transition.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Hun
13 days ago

I posit that unmentioned factor is why the Occident has ‘cycles’ of history, and the Orient does not.

The Orient has rises and falls of regime and culture, but each looks exactly the same as the one before. The Orient seems to have peaked at 200 BC-200 AD, and remained unchanged until affected by the West.
___________
(Ultimately, the East didn’t have big giant meteors smashing into it as did North America and the Middle East. Those periodic events, some 14,000 and 4500 years ago, molded the genetic ecology into the children of change.)

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Hun
Hun
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Perhaps, but this could also mean that the Orient has been revived and revitalized while the West has exhausted itself (assuming you are talking about east Asia). It remains to be seen how China does in the following decades. If they can somehow fix their demographic trends, they will rise far above everybody else.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Hun
12 days ago

If they can somehow fix their demographic trends, they will rise far above everybody else.

Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh.

Eusebio
Eusebio
Reply to  pyrrhus
13 days ago

Why did Germany start WW1 and WW2? Why did they try to initiate war with Britain ,twice, in the late 19th century and then whine when the British began to treat them as the primary enemy?
Why did they declare war on the USSR and the USA during a 5 month period in 1941?
Was Germany the most powerful state in the world?

Why do the French even bother having a military?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Eusebio
13 days ago

Accuse your enemies of what you yourself are doing.

When the next generation comes along, they don’t know, they weren’t there, so their moral foundation is based on a lie that has become their “truth”.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Eusebio
12 days ago

Why did Germany start WW1 and WW2?

Germany was one of the last European powers to mobilize in the runup to WWI and Hitler pretty much bent over backwards to try to avoid going to war with France and England.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Eusebio
12 days ago

Britain declared war on Germany, both times.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
13 days ago

Historian Kenneth Clark in his BBC series “Civilization” (excellent BTW) when summing up why civilizations fail tells a story about how Roman towns on the periphery would get all excited/scared/engaged when rumors that the barbarians were coming and they were about to be sacked. Then they were passed by and the reaction was disappointment. KC basically said that this is what happens when civilizations are exhausted; no energy, no ideas, no appetite for risk or innovation. Just passively wishing “something” would happen. That’s what this nuclear brinksmanship seems like. Children who are bored and keep grabbing new toys, not really… Read more »

KGB
KGB
13 days ago

Although I’m still firmly of the belief that the regime will never let Trump enter the White House, I’m coming to the realization that despite all the demographic-border issues, the single most important reason for a Trump victory is that it would throw sand in the gears of this inexorable march toward war with Russia.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
13 days ago

If he’s truly willing to throw sand in the gears. His track record for delivering on his promises, alas, is singularly unimpressive.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

I suspect a central element of his campaign is going to be, “When I left office, we weren’t at war with Russia and inflation was 1%.”

And when Biden calls him a “convicted felon” I hope his response is, “Thank you for setting the precedent that prosecuting former presidents is now okay. That’s going to come in super handy when I beat you.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Unimpressive or not, the problem for Trump—the would be peacemaker—is going to be massive. Basically, he’s gonna have to eat crow and concede Ukraine. At which point he’ll give extended life to the neocons and of course the Dem’s will have field day. Not sure he’s strong enough to do so. But I’m a hopeless optimist. Perhaps Putin will toss him a bone and consider giving him a Pyrrhic victory (i.e., peace with honor) in hopes of a working relationship his next four years. Strong men like Putin have a respect for other strong men and then they can have… Read more »

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Compsci
13 days ago

There’s no issue with “conceding Ukraine”. The public won’t care. We’ll get the same lectures about “abandoning our friends” (lol) in Iraq and Syria. Neither of those really hurt Trump and his attempts to get us out of the different civil wars enjoyed public support.

”No draft. No WW3. No sending your kids to die for Joe Biden’s mistakes.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hokkoda
12 days ago

The people are different from the elites. The pol’s,in Congress wave Uke flags. The neocons promote funding. These people remain and have more power than the masses any day.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

Great reason to keep having elections, n’est-ce pas? Voting makes certain that our point of view is never represented or even expressed, but kept locked away safely on dissident websites.

Rather than elections, selections. Select someone to represent yourself. To be your agent. To fire when he does not act in your interests.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  KGB
13 days ago

Revenge is bad for business but may be useful in politics.

Trump is a businessman, thru and thru.

Alas.

David Wright
Member
13 days ago

Sometimes I seriously believe this is about hatred of Ukrainians. Nothing is ever done that remotely helps them or a better way of life. Now this atrocious cannon fodder war which we all know will not end well except for Russians.

of course I do know that rebuilding this country will be very lucrative except that will be Russia’s job. That and the inevitable reveal of western biolabs and foreign aid corruption and kickbacks. God, please give me this?

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  David Wright
13 days ago

There is absolutely no doubt that hatred of Russia is driving this, as is the eager willingness to use Ukrainian goyim to fight them.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  David Wright
13 days ago

The descendants of the people who managed the Holodomor are now in charge of our foreign policy.
Feeding Ukrainians into a meat grinder and taking a few Russians with them is win-win in their eyes.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

I don’t know. Galicia wasn’t as hard-hit by the Holodomor as were the Kiev and Kharkhov regions, but still, that’s a whole crapton of the “usual suspects” that were starved. The areas that got off relatively easy were the more Russian (i.e., less “usual suspects”) regions in the north and east.

We’ve always been taught those regions were resettled and pacified by people forcefully exported from the RSFSR, but the part of the story that always bothered me is why they evidently selected such a huge percentage of “usual suspects” to send to pacify Ukraine.

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tashtego
Member
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

I’d be very interested in some elaboration on this subject. My primary source for history on the topic in general is “200 Years…” but I only have the second volume in Russian and make slow progress with it to say the least.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  tashtego
13 days ago

Solzhenitsyn is tough, and not least because most of the English translations interpret it quite differently. I do not have the chops nor interest to read it in Cyrillic, and do not trust the translations because every one I’ve found differs sometimes significantly from other translations, have heavy Jewish ties, and, surprise, surprise, are called antiSemitic. It’s hardly a good primary source. The only reason I put much stock into his account is that supposedly, one of the major sources of resettlement population was the Kuban, where he was born. And, oddly, which also appears to have been struck hard… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  tashtego
12 days ago

I saw somewhere a couple of years ago that work was afoot on a real English translation of 200 years.
Foolishly didn’t make a note.
Anybody heard of this?
I don’t expect it to be on Amazon.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
13 days ago

Losing the rarest, most beautiful women on earth- Ukrainians, Scandinavian, Irish, English- makes me want to start lobbing nukes around.

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Hun
Hun
13 days ago

In case anybody is interested, the recently almost assassinated prime minister of Slovakia spoke for the first time since the day of the attempt on his life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNX5Is73WA

He names Soros, mentions his opposition to the war in Ukraine and blames the western backed opposition and media for the murder attempt.

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Maxda
Maxda
13 days ago

These people have no reverse gear. When the Ukrainians collapse, they’ll send in NATO troops. When they are slaughtered and a carrier is sunk, they reach for nukes because backing off is never considered an option.

A dying empire with nukes is a new and very dangerous development.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

They backed off in Afghanistan.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Because the Ukraine grift was about to kick-off? Sure looks that way in retrospect.

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
13 days ago

What if the people in charge were all the descendants of a people with a 2,000 year war against humanity and are still pissed about the baptism at sword point in 1077 at Kiev? What if all this end of history hooha and exposition is just propaganda (side note, neat little book by Bernays) to manufacture consent? Or if not consent at least a ‘paper trail’ for CYA sakes?

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Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

Two questions for zman and others –

  1. I heard that those grabbing people off the street to be sent to the Ukrainian front are often Jews and Banderites. That is why they show such little care for the native population. Is that true?
  2. While Ukraine is lost, I see a globalist victory in Mexico. What are the implications?
Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

2) Sheinbaum is so obviously a puppet that they are pretending she’s AMLO’s puppet, instead of a tool of “international finance”. She is, however, just as powerless against the cartels as her predecessor, which could pave the way for eventual annexation.

That’s one way to deal with the immigration issue, at least. 😣

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
12 days ago

Sheinbaum, newly elected President of Mexico, and the other major presidential candidate, met with Larry Fink, head of Blackrock, preceding the election. I am sure it was merely a meet and greet, and nothing substantive was put on the table, no? Now, couple this with the news that Blackrock is helping to fund a Texas Stock Exchange, something just announced, designed to attract capital and corporations to Texas. Hmm. As the US disaggregates, what better way to position oneself for a future working relationship with a seceding Texas working closely with a Mexico being led by another tribal member? Food… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago
  1. Yes. No choice. They are mostly out of goyim. And Banderites, BTW. Does that explain why there is interest in getting US troops pre-placed? Or is the long range plan to depopulate Ukraine of Jews, too, while giving the appearance of support? I’m leaning towards the latter. Ukraine for Blackrock.
  2. Too soon to tell. I doubt the new el Presidente has anywhere near the power we assume because of how much power our el Presidente wields. Mexico actually has a non-cuck opposition.
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

1. “to depopulate Ukraine of Jews”- as I said to Mr. Gottfried, globalist J clearing out patriotic Js makes sense (as did their ancestors in internationalist German KPD). We forget that little J is usually quite patriotic; that’s why the over-the-top propaganda is so strident, because it’s primarily internal messaging to sway the audience one wants most to reach. (Good catch, by the way.)

2. I expect Steinbaum to be more of a Hillary, Mad Albright, Toria Nuland, Sulla Ledeyn or Susan Powers than a Swedish Cabinet. Eager to shine, rather than loving the Studio 54 spotlight.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Good grief. What if Putin starts moving Chechens or Uzbeks or Tajiks into Lvov or Kharkiv, like he’s doing in Russia’s south?

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jpb
jpb
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Big Jews keep the Little Jews in the corral for political and profit agenda by fanning anti-Semitism. “The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed is the seminal analysis of the ancient dynamic of Big Jews hiding behind naïve and expendable Little Jews.

Sorry, replied to the wrong comment.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

I keep forgetting about the Big Jew, Little Jew thing. It’s come up a few times here, from a few different people, and I keep meaning to look into it. It does make things make more sense, I have to admit.

jpb
jpb
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

Big Jews keep the Little Jews in the corral for political and profit agenda by fanning anti-Semitism. “The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed is the seminal analysis of the ancient dynamic of Big Jews hiding behind naïve and expendable Little Jews.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  jpb
13 days ago

The same dynamic goes for us. Our worst enemy is our own.
It goes for any demographic.

The Middlemen’s superpower is selling people the false promises of their own desires. Promises to the poor, promises to the rich, promises to the good, promises to the narcissistic sociopaths that carve their way to the top.

That’s how an ambitious minority can latch on for the ride, by appearing “useful”, selling amulets, spells, and some quiet direct loans or dirty deeds to ‘solve your problem’.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

Rockwell explicitly mentioned “big Jew, little Jew” in his Playboy interview with Alex Haley:

Alex Haley Interviews George Lincoln Rockwell – Alex Haley

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

It make eminent good sense, and one can observe its playing out at various historical junctures. Helps to keep the little Jews on side for fear of being abandoned to deal with the blowback from the Big Jews’ provocative, bad acts; hang together, or get left behind to face the music.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
12 days ago

Why isn’t the same true of us? Why do we bother kicking at the goads?

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

I don’t know anything about the body snatchers themselves, but from the videos I have seen, the victims are always Russian-speakers from Kherson, Kharkov, or Odessa areas. I have never seen a video of body snatchers operating in Lvov or Kyeeeeeeeeef.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

From what I’ve seen, they are mostly snatching up Carpathians, Moldovans, Romanians and the occasional Bulgarian. The last three, agreed, Odessa area, but Carpathians are south-west Ukraine.

But many of the videos now being distributed are months old. Those people are almost certainly dead by now.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

Appelbaum, Anne (2025). The Occasional Bulgarian: Ukraine, the Security of Europe, and the Fight for Freedom. Doubleday.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

Ah. Somebody is clearing out their potential opposition, then. Like they would do MAGAs here.

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Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

If those are the people getting grabbed off the street, it is only because everybody else is already dead.

LFMayor
LFMayor
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

1) it’s a vanity project so no expense can be too great. See also why homosexuals cannot be trusted, it’s rooted in vanity.

2) Mexico <> Victory. Congratulations on your big win. Now do what the narcos want or get peeled like a tangerine.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
13 days ago

1. There are fully Jewish cities in Ukraine, I mean full Hasidic, such as Oran. Do they grab them there? Big jew doesn’t give a schmidt about little jew, look what Big did in the 30s to force their own to go soldier down in an Ottoman schmidthole colony. (In hand with communist KPD clearing out the patriotic opposition.) Otherwise, most Ukie Jews I’ve met, you can’t tell the difference between them and your average Misha; I don’t think they have religious affiliation on their identity cards like some East Europe countries do. 2. 37 candidates murdered in the Mexico… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

Luckily, it’s all about narrative to our rulers. They’ll spin some yarn about how Russin won by throwing 6 million soldiers at Ukraine and overwhelming them. We’ll get a peace deal and the media will never speak of this again nor will any of the people responsible be punished.

But the world will have changed. The RoW will know that the US military is a shell of its former self. In addition, alternative financial/trade routes will grow.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

Given their obsession with faux narratives in regards to Ukraine this is definitely a possibility & one I had not considered. All the latest escalations US has done could very well be intimidation tactics with no real intent to actually go all the way. Everything the US has done from the beginning fits this non committal posture of them tip toeing up to but stopping before full blown war to get the desired result. If this is how it’ll end I suspect they won’t admit defeat but invent a new narrative where they really beat the hell out of Russia… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  RVIDXR
13 days ago

If they were smart, they would allow Trump to win. They could blame him for pulling the plug, and in general release a lot of growing anti-regime steam in the US. Alas, they really believe they can’t survive 4 years of a moderate Republican, so they have to destroy the country to save it.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  DLS
13 days ago

Heh, that would be the perfect way to end it, I don’t want to give them any ideas but they could kill two birds with one stone by ending it during his second term & then yet again claim he was in league with the Russians to absolve themselves. That’s unlikely outcome though since they’re anything but smart.

pie
pie
Reply to  RVIDXR
13 days ago

sounds like tragedy and hope.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

What a crazy world, that in 16 years time, I went from a patriotic civ-nat to a dissident rooting for the RoW (less every western sodomy state, of course).

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
13 days ago

Just because one is a citizen of a silly country doesn’t mean that one has to remain one, or even if one does, that one has to remain in said country. Although leaving it may be problematic… I’ll never qualify wealth- or politics-wise, but those who are candidates might consider the second passport. We’re already in a world where the State Department apparently can arbitrarily suspend a citizen’s privilege (it’s not a right?) to travel, lest he might say unflattering words at a Russian event. It’s worth developing that point a bit further: It’s a no-brainer that a citizen can… Read more »

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Interestedreader
Interestedreader
13 days ago

The UKR counteroffensive was probably the most outrageous thing I’ve seen from NATO planners. They literally made their base assumption that the Russians would run away like the Iraqi army in 1991.

I’m sure their internal projections for a war with China also assume similar levels of incompetence. Probably assuming that the Chinese ships are made out of wood.

bgc
bgc
13 days ago

Since day one it has been evident that the primary and ultimate reason for this war (from the POV of those running the real strategy) is the destruction of *the West* (not Russia) – which is, after all, exactly the global establishment strategy within all the Western nations. The destruction of Russia is just a rationalization to get the middle management on-board. Russia’s real job is to be the thorn upon which NATO (and the West, generally) impales itself. This is working well for those who engineered it – which is why there is no change in strategy. The sanctions… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  bgc
13 days ago

They also believe killing people will help Gaia. Nuclear mushroom clouds around the planet will save the earth. They are that crazy.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  bgc
13 days ago

OMG. This, this, this, 1000x.

And, nuclear winter to keep the oceans from boiling, natch.

But why? Because of the God within and the God without.
Within and without the greenhouse, that is.

The outer Seeder wants to continue to spore.
The inner Composter wants to drag every scrap back in, to reset to an earlier bud-building stage, as that is its function, forming and recycling the sparse root organic layer.

BTP
Member
13 days ago

Ukraine will not resolve these issues quickly, and the average overall quality of Ukrainian forces on the frontline will likely decrease as experienced personnel rotate out and newly-deployed personnel reach the frontline even as the number of available soldiers increases. New soldiers will likely learn rapidly as they fight alongside experienced veterans, however.

lol. lmao.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BTP
13 days ago

I’m not. As I mentioned once before, we learned a lesson of such in the Vietnam conflict. US soldiers—even after full training—placed in combat suffered relatively *high* casualty rates for their first 3 months or so, then dropped down to their fellow infantrymen’s rates.

Why? Simple, the training could not match the field of conflict encountered. Stupid soldiers certainly did stupid things and quickly eliminated themselves, but that does not explain all. Much to be learned—and quickly—from your experienced fellow soldiers.

I don’t see that not being the case in Ukraine.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
13 days ago

Yeah, they’ll learn rapidly if they don’t get blown to bits before getting the chance to do so. No sure thing that.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Sure. Training plus experience = minimal casualties. No training = more than the minimal casualties. However it does not equal complete elimination, nor complete ineffectiveness of the fighting force thrown into the conflict. You do what you have to do when pressed.

TomA
TomA
13 days ago

Whatever insanity befalls us in the coming weeks, the average Joe at the bottom of the social pyramid can do nothing to impact these macro-events. Anxious worrying just induces useless despair, so focus on yourself and family. The spring is winding tighter faster now, so the explosion of anger is just waiting on a trigger. Most people will strike out locally at the most convenient object, but there is a better way. Those responsible for these calamities are still among us. Justice demands that they be the sole bearer of necessary consequences, or the disease will persist. The pathogens must… Read more »

RDittmar
Member
13 days ago

… or will they do like the cult members in When Prophesy Fails and find some way to internalize it and keep the faith? I’m far more worried they go the Hale-Bopp route and commit mass suicide by pushing the red button. They may well be convinced that their devotion to diversity, gay pride and trans-ing kids will cause Gaia to carry them up to Heaven after the missles get traded. I find it particularly frightening and indicative of where were headed that the Con., Inc. cucks have been pivoting back to Ukraine recently. The message may have gone out to put… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RDittmar
13 days ago

As expected, the college protest scene died out when the spring semester ended. Con Inc, lacking any long term vision whatsoever, is just as driven by the Current Thing as everyone else in Clown World.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
13 days ago

There are still protests going on – I was reading about one in San Francisco yesterday. The local governments, though, got their orders and are sending in their goon squads to beat them up and cart them off to jail far quicker. Also, too, it seems that the media got their orders and were told not to report on them as much (because, as always, the media’s primary power is the power to ignore).

george 1
george 1
Reply to  RDittmar
13 days ago

Yes. Psychopaths are like that.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  RDittmar
13 days ago

Red button eh? [begin at 2:00]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvDCgR_9-fE

Vizzini
Member
13 days ago

Wow, those two Fukuyama articles are hilariously wrong. It’s almost SOP for clown world that people who are wrong again and again pay no price, but are instead rewarded and continue to be treated as if their opinions are important.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vizzini
13 days ago

To riff off Tucker Carlson, liars are rewarded and truthtellers are punished. Samuel Huntingdon, one of the original New Dealers and a man of the Left, told the truth about immigration, identity and the fragility of the world and was hounded the remainder of his days. His CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND WHO ARE WE? have been proven right in every aspect. Huntingdon’s delusional contemporary Francis Fukuyama is lauded as a prophet–and not one that failed. These people control nukes and will use them because they are even more detached from reality than schizophrenics. If someone does Twitter they should follow… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
13 days ago

This is an important article by Z. Arguing that The End of History and the Last Man is the manifesto and primary text of post-Cold War America is persuasive and has strong explanatory power. And oddly enough, Michel Foucault and his ilk, the very people whose work provided the blueprint for the internal destruction of the West, also explain why Fukuyama and the neocons are dead wrong: the various people of the world are fundamentally, irreduciably different, which means they don’t all desire the same things such as liberal democracy, “enrichment” by alien peoples, and mustachioed men in puce sundresses… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Foucault wrote a lot of good stuff and shouldn’t be lumped with the rest of the pomo and multi-culti brigade. He was an astute student of the mechanisms of power.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Arshad Ali
13 days ago

What did he write that was both insightful and practical?

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

His books are in professorial language that’s useless to normal people, but in his interviews and editorials he makes his points straightforwardly. The Essential Works Vol 3 collects his best “political” material. If his name weren’t on it you’d think it was the work of an extremely cynical paleo-libertarian. Well worth a few bucks.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
13 days ago

Perhaps. But he wanted power to be in the hands of the Perverse and the Diverse. And that is just what has happened.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Indeed, wasn’t it Derrida who was the bottom for black men, and Focault who was into the gay leather S&M scene?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Foucault was queer as a three-dollar-bill and even more perverse than most of that lot.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Adding to the irony (and Churchill was right about one thing) Russia is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma;

george 1
george 1
13 days ago

Folks there is no problem. The below article on Zero Hedge shows how the US/NATO will arrange to send troops from everywhere to stop those dreadful Russians should the need arise. Look at all of the corridors they will use. Russia will be overwhelmed and NATO/US will probably drive Ivan all the way to the Pacific Ocean. It worked in Iraq right? Of course the article doesn’t explain that the Russians, unlike Iraq, have submarines, very good air defense and long range missiles that might make moving all of those troops problematic. But hey, let’s not spoil the elites fantasies.… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  george 1
13 days ago

Now that Russian President Vladimir Putin has secured his historic fifth term in office, it is patently clear that he will devote his next six-year spell at the Kremlin to pursuing his paranoid obsession of confronting the West

I know people who believe this propaganda. “Putler is a paranoid dictator who hates the West for no reason”. It’s so tiring to have to live among monkeys.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Hun
13 days ago

You should see some of the dirty looks I get when I remind people that WE started the war. Not Russia.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  george 1
13 days ago

War is deception.

I don’t think that the toadies in NATO are fooling anyone, especially Russia.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
13 days ago

Well, there is that first casualty of war…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ProZNoV
13 days ago

Problem is a lot of them are fooling themselves.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  george 1
13 days ago

george 1 – lines and arrows on maps, icons of subs, helicopters, and…stuff Guess that’s all takes to total vic’try. Vlad best throw in the towel now whilst he can.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  stranger in a strange land
13 days ago

Near the end of 1984 Winston is imagining:

The telescreen was silent for a moment. Winston raised his head again. The bulletin! But no, they were merely changing the music. He had the map of Africa behind his eyelids. The movement of the armies was a diagram: a black arrow tearing vertically southward, and a white arrow tearing horizontally eastward, across the tail of the first.

[Eventually the bulletin appears:]
He could hear just enough of what was issuing from the telescreen to realise that it had all happened as he had foreseen…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  george 1
13 days ago

Well, if NATO troops go to war against Russia we will at least see how much stomach for mass casualties the Western public has. My guess is very, very little.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Especially if those casualties are here on the mainland…I seen a drone video today of the destruction Russia is doing with their bombing campaign on a city and just had to wonder what the public would do if that happened to a major city here…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
13 days ago

Well, RFK wouldn’t have to write a companion volume to JFK’s Profiles in Courage, we can be sure of that.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

I don’t see how this could happen? We’ve had repeated experience with our NATO allies in the sand wars. Never did they involve themselves in the heavy lifting—except Great Britain. In at least one case the few soldiers the put in got creamed and they withdrew (think it was Germany). I’d say, aside from the Poles, they’ll crumble or perhaps rather, the American military will again do the heavy lifting, except in their countries.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
13 days ago

But this won’t be a sand war against some puny sheikdom. It will be a brutal grind against a real world power. And as such, NATO troops will have to venture into harm’s way if NATO is to have even the slightest chance of victory. And if that happens, legions of stiffs will be returning to DC, Berlin, London and Paris.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Sure, but will the forces effectively resist, when they did not in the sand wars? With the minimal risk they undertook there, there was much resistance from home country. That’s my point, not that they will meet weaker or stronger opposition against a 1st world foe. The point is, will they fight effectively, or fold? Hell, even France folded in WWII and they were only 20 years out from beating the same foe in WWI.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
12 days ago

OK. I see what you’re saying. I predict a great deal of el foldo.

Member
13 days ago

I predicted that the Russian strategy is a return to a modernized Kabinetskreig, a couple years back, rather than Western bifurcated “strategy” that swings wildly from Fourth Generation Forever Wars of choice fought by volunteers who take no casualties to reviving Total War concepts that owe more to 1944 than 2024. The Western political and military elites cannot conceive of the kind of war the Russians are fighting on a geopolitical level, much less a strategic or operational level, and thus have no conception of how to respond to it. AINO has never fought a Kabinetskreig, and won’t learn now,… Read more »

Baltbuc
Baltbuc
13 days ago

…how will the West react?

A hint comes from the Afghanistan debacle. No accountability. Ignite a new crisis. Double-down somewhere else.

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
13 days ago

Color me surprised. Not! Germany’s military is not, and has never been, in any sort of readiness state in over two decades if not more. Once the wall came down, the West spent every pfennig on reunification. NATO is a joke and only the elites running everything, living in their fantasy world, believe it’s something else. Never forget, Donald Trump put Angela Merkel in her place when he demanded she pay up for their NATO contribution. They were laughing then, they’re not laughing now. Even the most mentally disturbed recognize the damage Ursula von der Leyen did to the German… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Karl Horst
13 days ago

Good luck to you over there Brother surely there is still fire in the spirits of enough Men over there to save a remnant of your/our people…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Karl Horst
13 days ago

And maybe you’ll have change enough left over to put up some barbed wire around those public swimming pools and some bollards for the Christmas market!

LFMayor
LFMayor
13 days ago

Maybe no one wants to listen because it’s the same homunculus mold: narrow shoulder, soft hands old man with turkey wattle chin has plan for the future based upon his career of creating chin Muzak. The only thing that changes is the color of the tie, the arrangement of the liver spits and the lapel pin.

I am amazed to see myself come full circle, right back to the wishing for anarchy that I left at age 22. Now I realize they deserve it.

They should have retired and watched their goddamn Barnaby Jones reruns when they had the chance.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  LFMayor
13 days ago

I feel I have to defend Barnaby Jones’ honor here. That show is awesome, so bingeworthy.

Jannie
Jannie
13 days ago

Recent pieces I read on CNN and WaPo indicate that perhaps elite consensus is coming apart. The CNN clip was about how useless the Abrams tanks are in Ukraine; the WaPo article bemoaned Russia’s superior electronic warfare capabilities, causing (Excalibur?) guided shells costing $100,000 a pop (your tax dollars at work!) to miss their targets. If the Ukrainian front line buckles by October it’s going to be very bleak for Biden.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jannie
13 days ago

The most concise parse of such claims is “We need new weapons, stat! Pass those appropriation bills.”

Derecha Disidente
Derecha Disidente
13 days ago

In a sane and just world, this would be in the NYT editorial page today.

Great hot take, Z.

Tony
Tony
13 days ago

I’ve heard more than one liberal say, quite seriously, some variation of

“The Russians are in for a rude awaking, they are going to face our military: the reason why I don’t have health care.”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
13 days ago

“One man’s death is a tragedy, 8 billion’s a statistic.”–every deranged fuckstick in D.C.

I’ve thought a nuclear war likely. It is now probable, and the people who have caused the slaughter of hundreds of thousands could give a damn less.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Jack Dobson
13 days ago

It would give us an opportunity to start from scratch though so still wondering if it wouldn’t be better than what we are dealing with now…

Xman
Xman
13 days ago

“…the war in Ukraine is not something that happened for no reason at all, but rather it is the product of a messianic outlook in the West that has existed since at least the end of the Cold War.” The messianic outlook in the West has existed since Prof. Wilson decided to send two million soldiers into the “war to end all wars” and to “redeem the world” with his League of Nations “Covenant” over a century ago. People need to face the fact the the U.S./GAE is just as much of an ideologically-driven expansionist state as the USSR and… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
13 days ago

The geographic unassailability of AINO turns out to be a curse as much as a blessing. It permits the GAE regime to remain in power through every conceivable overreach abroad, save nuclear war, and possibly through that too. It is free to make virtually any mistake. If the worst thing it has to fear is inflation, then I gotta say, that’s a pretty secure regime. In this sense, I see the collapse of the GAE’s illusions re: Ukraine/Russia as irrelevant to its domestic staying power.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
13 days ago

AINO doesn’t have geographic unassailability any more. I recollect that it was the Russian Foreign Ministry rather than their military that published a graphic showing the range envelope of one model of their air-launched hypersonic missiles that reached everywhere in CONUS except the very southern tip of Florida. Miami would be safe, unless the launching planes used air2air refueling for a little range boost. They did this in an attempt to communicate to the dumb-dumb people in the CityOfLondon-NYC-WDC Axis of Evil that the correlation of forces has changed, and that they need to wake up and start taking that… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Horace
13 days ago

They did this in an attempt to communicate to the dumb-dumb people in the CityOfLondon-NYC-WDC Axis of Evil that the correlation of forces has changed, and that they need to wake up and start taking that into account. They did this because they do not WANT a war. However, if there is a war … that new 155mm arty shell plant in TX is going to be rubble. The globalists have no defense. Pentagon: rubble; BlackRock HQ: rubble; Vanguard HQ: rubble; CIA HQ@Langley: rubble; FBI HQ: rubble; EBT operation centers: rubble -> any American cities with Africans: looted and burned… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Horace
13 days ago

Yes Please…

Whitney
Member
13 days ago

Is Saudi Arabia giving up the petrodollar on June 9th?

Hun
Hun
13 days ago

There is always Taiwan they can start focusing on. They are increasingly pushing for war with China over it. I am sure the US can easily handle two big wars without any negative consequences.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Hun
13 days ago

Taiwan is off the table. Unlike Ukraine, there is no way to fight a proxy war with China. Any defense of Taiwan would require direct American and allied involvement.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

Defense of Taiwan would not be the point, just as defense of Ukraine is not the point of the war with Russia. It’s about “containing” China.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Hun
13 days ago

You can’t “contain” China without a blue water navy — something only one country in the world still has. If China decides to invade Taiwan, the island cannot hold out for long without direct military intervention from the U.S. We couldn’t even “send aid” like we are doing in Ukraine. The first thing China would do would be a total blockade of the island — a blockade that could only be lifted by force.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

Well, the US could start making noises about adding Mongolia to NATO…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

Amazing idea. A NATO country wedged between China and Russia. I am surprised they have not done it yet.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Mr. Generic
12 days ago

Unlike Ukraine, there is no way to fight a proxy war with China. 

Also unlike Ukraine, a Chinese military operation against Taiwan actually would be a naked act of aggression.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
13 days ago

We’re going to see U.S. troops officially in the trenches by Winter, and cries for blood when they start getting blown to bits with drones. Russia will not escalate and follow their successful grinding strategy. I have doubts the U.S. will go for full air superiority though, as the casualties would be catastrophic.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

If there’s to be a major western boots on the ground presence in Ukraine, it would have to come mostly from Poland, with a leavening of other NATO participants. The capability (and manpower) for it to be otherwise just isn’t there. Since they just got their desired regime change in Poland, it could happen.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

I’m not as confident about a limit to vote rigging at the Presidential and Senate levels. The only limit I see is in the House, where the big liberal cities can’t push fake ballots into all the small congressional districts. If Trump wins, it is because they are smart enough to back off, let him win, blame him for everything, and come back in 4 years with a non-dementia candidate. But they just can’t help themselves.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

Suicide by calling an airstrike on himself.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

Yes, the incipient WW III has top billing here, but in a related vein, there’s been some very intriguing shift in Narrative on other hot button issues:   Immigration: So Biden is cracking down on the open border all of a sudden? “Election year” would be the go-to guess. But this second one is a bit murkier:   Covid-19 “vaccine” issuers: there’s been a series of these in recent weeks. To me, a major eye-opener is the BMJ study linking the jab to excess deaths. For those unaware, the BMJ is one of the top medical journals in the world.… Read more »

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

Who’s blood?

If they come for my son, it won’t be Russian blood.

Tony
Tony
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

Whatever Bro.

Are you a fed poster for suggesting that you would fire on the press gangs for sending your son into a meat grinder?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tony
13 days ago

[An attempt at humor]
 
Perhaps Army recruiters can soften the blow by telling inductees that “press gang” actually means they’ll going to journalism school, MOS 46S Public Affairs Mass Communication Specialist.

Tony
Tony
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

Dude, just look up Apex Predator and consult with him about the forced posterior penetration he received in prison for defying the lawful authorities.

Make sure to hand over your son for front line combat duty or you are sure to suffer Apex Predator’s fate. Do not resist the lawful authorities.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

Better have Tribe Brother…

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

Yes. The NATO air forces won’t be bombing goat herders in near complete safety against the Russians. It will be a very dangerous business.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

Can someone please explain to me the exact process by which large numbers of American troops could even be deployed to such an active war zone?

Russia has complete control of the Black Sea, air superiority bordering on supremacy, and a demonstrated ability to destroy air fields and staging centers anywhere in western Ukraine. Seems to me there would be heavy losses before you could even get “boots on the ground” and even the mid-wit diversity hires in the Pentagon would balk at that.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

To answer your question, look at the Gaza pier. Now, that could be a psy op, but don’t count on it.

Tony
Tony
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

The Russians don’t have air supremacy, they do have missle air defence supremacy which would mean neither side would have control of the air.

The troops would be landed far away from the front, and then transported in overland.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Tony
13 days ago

Those overland transport routes would be come under regular missile attacks long before they got anywhere near a front.

Even a good chance of Russian attack subs sending supply ships to the bottom on the way to Europe.

This won’t be a Gulf War with 9 months to build up forces and supplies unmolested.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Maxda
13 days ago

Correct. Note that Putin has said that the use (implying staging as well) of foreign forces will cause them to be engaged—even if not on Russian soil. In short, you start building an army group in say, Poland, and Poland will be considered a target of opportunity as they say. I don’t even blame Russia—sound reasonable from a self defense prospect to me.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

Agree. Americans (both home grown and otherwise) will not fight.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  AnotherAnon
13 days ago

If they do fight, they won’t fight well. Perverse/Diverse batallions who’ve never tasted real combat versus battle-seasoned Rooskies–I don’t like the BFE’s odds in that scenario.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  AnotherAnon
13 days ago

An interesting wrinkle there. My cousin will retired from the fire department last year and he retired from the army reserve five years before that.
He told me that word is circulating that yes, they are going to begin calling people back. Those that refuse that are retired will have their pensions and all of their benefits confiscated.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

The question here is what calling back means. Everyone separating has a certain time “in jeopardy”. You have so many years in the reserves and different readiness levels—at least that the way it used to be when I knew such people. Now if they begin to demand that vet’s not in the readiness reserve come back, that’s another story. On the other hand, there are bunches of State Army Reserves that are considered for immediate call up. They make up the tail portion of our “tooth to tail” forces.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
13 days ago

You make an excellent point, but I wouldn’t put anything past these people.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Steve
12 days ago

Ditto. No one regularly reading here trusts “these people”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
13 days ago

Presumably, AINO troops would enter Ukraine through Poland. If that were attempted, however, Poland would take a fearful pounding. One, alas, it richly deserves.

Tony
Tony
Reply to  Chet Rollins
13 days ago

Ukraine is loosing 1000+ troops a day, I suspect NATO casualties would be in the same neighborhood.

For comparison, the US lost 400 troops a day in WW2.

Those kind of losses would necessitate a draft.

Imagine the US government bringing home 1,000 body bags a day, a draft, and half the country still pissed off about the election, whichever way it goes.

There would be so much pressure to break the stalemate with nuclear weapons.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Tony
13 days ago

Somewhere, Harry Truman is smiling.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Tony
13 days ago

Agreed except I think the pissed off half of the country will be rootin for Putin should it come to that. Remember they’ve beat the patriotism out of heritage America the last 30+ years.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
13 days ago

Yep. Everyone should read When Prophecy Fails. In the book, the cultists just start dropping off, after the initial burst of enthusiasm when the prophecy fails. We can only hope that the end game of post Cold War prophecy is as benign.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
13 days ago

Dimona is a fraud, like Saddam’s WMD.

How does a permanent minority that gets its enemies to kill each other fulfill the messianic vision?

It gets Russia and America to do the Sampson Option for it.

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Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
13 days ago

Ukraine had the same manic effect on what passes for an intelligentsia in the west as Covid did for nurses. The one I think about is Timothy Snyder. Bloodlands is worth reading, despite some problems. He took flak from parts of the tribe for the crime of comparing their suffering to the suffering of the goyim. He can write well. And he has been a popularizer of the notion that populations without acces to a state are most suceptible to genocide. But 2016 pushed him to the edge and 2022 broke him. I don’t think there is any way back… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
13 days ago

“The current debate about letting Ukraine use NATO weapons to attack inside Russia is mostly about normalizing the idea of NATO attacking inside Russia, something the Russians will never tolerate.” The question is, what can Russia do about it? I would think Putin does not want a wider war against NATO. This would be incredibly destructive and expensive and cost millions of lives on all sides and risks nuclear escalation. Cyber attacks? Attacks on space based assets? Scott Ritter claims a lot of these weapons that can hit inside Russia require the West’s active participation to use. He says the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
13 days ago

I have another comment, and possibly one more. This is a link to support what the Zman has been trying to get across about “religion” in the political sense. Most importantly, the ‘Judeo-Puritan’ vision of America. (Some feel that you can’t call it a religion if it has no God. That violates their understanding of their relationship with God, and to do so makes no sense to them. I respect their affront, and hope to help illustrate an alternative view.) No need to read it all, please just scroll down for the rose-pink colored blocks towards the end. Those are… Read more »

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

A State is nothing more, nothing less than the substitution of God for Satan as lawgiver. So, yes, it is religion, in the sense that one is just coming up with an alternative source of authority for his society’s rules.

And once understood that the State has explicitly rejected God as its source of authority, to be replaced by Satan or by man, whatever your personal worldview, it should not come as a surprise that States do what they do.

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pie
pie
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

well said

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

A religion is an ideology that defines good and evil. It is not necessary that has God or a nation. Confucianism and Buddhism are examples

usNthem
usNthem
13 days ago

If mankind is in the clutches of irrationality (lol), the US government (followed closely by Germany) stands front and center above all. And I would say it’s more like insanity rather than irrationality – you know, doing/saying the same things over and over and expecting a different or desired result. The forces of darkness run deep and wide in Washington DC.

Vizzini
Member
13 days ago

Hopefully His Excellency Christian Schmidt is careful on the streets of Sarajevo.

Yman
Yman
13 days ago

Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo was born to a secular Jewish family in Mexico City.[10] Her paternal Ashkenazi grandparents emigrated from Lithuania to Mexico City in the 1920s
Having won the 2024 Mexican general election representing the left-wing political party Morena, she is currently the President-elect of Mexico.[4]

Every single time

Jim
Jim
12 days ago

Think god, a smart reasonable person is in charge of Russia, unlike the criminals here in the States, I fear that after Trump is re-elected, all hell will break out

Bilejones
Member
12 days ago

Rule one of AINO:

He who lies first wins.