Thoughts On Conspiracy Theories

Before anyone was sure what happened to Donald Trump on that stage in Pennsylvania, the conspiracy theorists were hard at work. It is reaching the point where conspiracy theories are the primary driver of public discourse. No one can accept the official version of things, so we are left to create our own versions. Throw in the fact that it is easy to manipulate digital images, video and sound and we will soon doubt what our senses tell us about anything in the digital space.

It is fair to say we are living through the conspiratorial age. Fifty years ago, the only people who trafficked in this material were the people who lined their clothes with aluminum foil and vacationed at Dallas. Today, no one believes official narratives, so everyone has their own theory of reality. If not for conspiracy theories, no one would have any idea what is happening in the world, as the official narratives often sound less plausible than the so-called conspiracy theories.

The term conspiracy itself is a conspiracy of sorts. Many people think it was created by the CIA as a way of tarnishing those skeptical of official narratives. In reality the term existed as far back at the 1860’s but was popularized by Karl Popper in his book The Open Society and Its Enemies, published in the 1940’s, which was long before the Central Intelligence Agency existed. Even so, the term is primarily used as a way to discredit people who question the official story.

The irony is that the people most fond of throwing around the term “conspiracy theory” are the people most fond of conspiracy theories. The media exists, to a great degree, to fabricate narratives, even when the facts are clear. The great change in the media came in the middle of the last century with the rise of narrative journalism, called new journalism, which sought to contextualize the news through the creative use of narratives into which the facts were fitted.

Of course, it is a conspiracy theory to say that the media works with the regime to create these narratives as a way to distract people. CNN posting a piece about how analysis of the audio at the Trump assassination attempt suggests there were three different shooters using three unique weapons is really a plot to insert this conspiracy theory into the online discourse. This allows the authorities to dismiss all of the alternative explanations as conspiracy theories.

For a conspiracy theory to gain traction the event in question has to be anomalous enough to feel unlikely. We do not get many assassination attempts at the moment, so the Trump event feels like something not to happen by chance. The other piece of the puzzle is the official explanation has to seem unlikely. Given that our authorities lie so much, this piece of the puzzle is now a default. Logic says they lie so much because they are hiding things they wish to remain hidden.

In the Trump case, there seems to be too many coincidences that had to happen for that shooter to get on that roof by himself. Sure, it is probably just crazy luck that he happened to star in a BlackRock ad and be the only young person who did not spend his free time on line, but most people find that unlikely. The FBI rushing out to say he was just another lone wolf in their system, one  that always seems to know about these guys before they commit a crime, also raises eyebrows.

The other aspect to this is the death of the supernatural. When people believed in the old gods, they could accept the unlikely as the work of the gods. There was no need to think more about it. Fate is just a part of life. In the Christian age, miracles were not just an explanation for the unlikely, but they were also proof that God played an active role in the affairs of man. Today, Christians say that Providence tipped Trump’s head to one side so that the bullet nicked his ear rather than ending his life.

In this age, people assume there is a material explanation for everything, so that means everything can be explained with actors and actions, cause and effect. People can accept that it was mere chance that Trump tilted his head when he did, but they cannot accept the million unlikely events that allowed that shooter to get on the roof and take shots at Donald Trump. One coincidence is proof that life is a roll of the dice, but a string of coincidences is proof of a conspiracy.

Another part of the conspiracy theory phenomenon is that humans have a natural desire to know who is in charge. Our base assumption, in all matters, is that someone is the final boss in every story of life. When an angry customer walks into a store she demands to see the manager. She does this on the assumption that the manager is the guy calling the shots. When the space aliens arrived in old monster movies, they always demanded to be taken to see the leader.

We live in an age where it is unclear who is in charge. The magic of democracy is it tells people that they are in charge, but that is impossible, and people sense it, so without a clear shot caller responsible for what is happening, people naturally look for an explanation that provides that shot caller. Every conspiracy theory assumes that there is someone, or a small group, who has the power to affect the course of history and the foresight to alter those events to their liking.

The first question after Nursing Home Joe drooled through that first debate was “Who is really running the White House?” It was clear, and has been clear for a long time, that Biden is incapable to doing much of anything. Therefore, someone else has to be making the decisions. Since our system does not have an answer for this and official sources deny the question is valid, we have the perfect environment for conspiracy theories about who is running the government.

Not only does democracy create the conditions for conspiracy theories, but the liberal tradition is also a conspiracy theory of its own. Once Western man dropped God as the final boss of the universe, the search was on for what was the first cause. Theories of history, for example, are simply attempts to create a compelling story that explains why we ought and ought not do things. Fairy tales about elves with bags of natural rights are a way to replace God with a really good story.

Perhaps Francis Fukuyama was right to some degree. The end of history is not as he imagined it, but instead it is the end of the line for the West and its quest to find the answer to the great question, who is really calling the shots? Perhaps we return to the old gods or maybe some new version of the Christian God. Alternatively, maybe we just shake ourselves to pieces with conspiracy theories. At the end of history, the last man is a guy wrapped in aluminum foil staring into a mirror.


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Xman
Xman
1 month ago

The problem is that sometimes there ARE actual conspiracies, and that sometimes the most logical and parsimonious explanation for an event is that it was caused by a government conspiracy — like the Gretchen Whitmer kidnap hoax. Trump’s enemies in the political Establishment and the Deep State have told us for eight years that Trump is an “existential threat to democracy,” that he is “Hitler,” that he is a “fascist,” and that he “must be stopped.” As far back as 2016 they accused him of being an agent of Putin and said that Putin rigged the election to defeat Hillary.… Read more »

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

“Look, I’ve been within 100 yards of a president. I know what the security was like.” Correct. In urban settings, line of site to adjacent buildings will be blocked off with rows of buses, etc. If you work on-site, you’ll be told not to enter offices that overlook where the president is speaking. Politically connected co-workers will offer you a ticket to the event if they consider you to be reliable (probably want to fill out the few seats). Uniformed Secret Service will check ticket-holders for weapons. That’ll get you to within a few feet of the great man. In… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Gideon
1 month ago

I said this here yesterday but the ladder is the key to this whole caper. Finding out exactly how and when the ladder materialized and who put it there will reveal either massive incompetence or massive conspiracy. Either way, everyone involved needs to be arrested.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

Absolutely spot-on! For whatever reason, they absolutely hate Trump – even though, when in office, he pretty much caved and was no real threat to their agenda.

Cmhi
Cmhi
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

Do you really not see the reason? 🙂

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Jannie
1 month ago

It can only be that they think he knows all their secrets and they are scared he is really serious about ending the abuses they have all either participated in or profited greatly from. They thought he was in the club, but he wasn’t. Or maybe he was but he means to put an end to it now. He did always warn, since the 1980’s, that he might run for President. So, they were warned. Everyone laughed it off.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

When Obama was president I had a window office on the 22nd floor, with no view/angle on the street below. A presidential motorcade was belatedly diverted to drive by. Shades-and-earpiece men took great pleasure in kicking me out of there—and touching all the sundress girls being herded out ahead of me. (A memorable image.) The city’s whole downtown was post-apocalyptically emptied for an armored car to pass through it at high speed. But Trump got shot from “outside the perimeter.” Sure. They did screw up. I’ve been saying for what feels like years now, the plan they very clearly telegraphed… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Here is an example of the precautions they took to keep their mulatto boy safe. Four inch thick bulletproof glass:

Obama’s own Berlin Wall! US President issues warning to austerity Europe from behind bulletproof glass | Daily Mail Online

At a military academy graduation, I was told that the Secret Service considered depriving the cadets of their (unsharpened) ceremonial sabers, which were part of the dress uniform, in Obama’s presence. They relented and did allow the cadets to graduate with the sabers, but such security paranoia seems to be curiously absent for Trump.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

Yes. And the danger to Trump is infinitely greater than it ever was for BO.

Steve w
Steve w
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Yep. Don’t forget the reaction to the Brexit referendum. That didn’t just catch the British elite off guard; it signaled to all the EU elites that they faced a growing populist problem. Solution? Mass immigration plus crackdown on new right leaning parties. Especially and egregiously in Germany. 2016 is our fake and gay version of 1848 on both sides of the Atlantic. In both instances, the elites have learned for themselves that they have lost legitimacy derived from tradition; in the case of the monarchs of 1848, any claim to legitimacy through family blood or even divine right. In the… Read more »

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Last president I saw live was Nixon, believe it or not. Some ceremony or other on the White house grounds. I was a kid and don’t remember being aware of security features at all. Then Bush the senior toured my workspace when he was VP. I was out of the office that day (cannot recall why) and everyone told me about the Secret Service, bomb-sniffing dogs, etc.

When I was a teen/college age I at times took the subway that Congress uses – don’t recall any security then either. The past is a different country.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Hah. When small, late 50’s, parents went to Washington DC. Took a tour of the White House. Procedure—assemble early morning on one of the driveways, stand in line, get admitted as smallish group with tour guide. Don’t remember any great security (although I was a kid), certainly no scanning, physical searches, and no special passes from your Congresscritter required. Not much different from the entertainment parks of the day, except we were not queuing for a “ride”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

I wonder why it is that we can’t have nice things anymore…

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

If there were a ‘pin’ option for comments this comment would be the one.

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

And the SS are human, not the point that they are fallible but they have human passions and want to be seen as high status. They are not working for the SS because they just happened to be there, they see it as a high status job. Do you think their friends don’t roll their eyes when they tell them about their job protecting orange hitler? over time they grow to resent trump, and say double meaning things to each other in lunch about “oops, forgot to check that door” then, a higher up comes in and tells them we… Read more »

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
1 month ago

In the last few years I’ve witnessed several “stars aligning” moments of absolute worst case scenario chain reaction clusterfucks unfold all due to a series of incompetent decisions from a succession of idiotic people. I call it the before covid / after covid, in our AC era I just expect everything to wrong in the most spectacular fashion, I’ve been conditioned to expect that. My neighbor got upgraded fibre internet, the mexicans who did it cut my line, AT&T swore up & down they’d fix it within a week. A month goes by, nobody came, so I canceled my internet… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

That sounds like a law of physics: it’s the feedback effect of stupid.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

The West has achieved so much innovation in that field that we’re now witnessing the quantum mechanics of stupidity.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

We’re reaching Ludicrous Speed!

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

Very well said. These days I am more inclined to attribute things to malice, but you make excellent points about how we tend to underestimate the amount of damage plain old stupidity can do. And since I’ve had minimal patience with stupid people since childhood, and since people have been getting more stupid with each passing decade, my daily “tolerance for stupidity” margin has been shrinking.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

3G…I sense a smaller and smaller circle of human beings with whom you will be willing to interact in your future – and a larger and larger circle of human beings with whom you will be unwilling to interact (yet may be forced, or find it necessary to). At least that’s my experience.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

I’ve probably interacted – with more people of more religions, ethnicities, classes, nations, and cultures – than most people here. Spare me your psychoanalysis.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

No intent to psychoanalyze – merely an observation.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

I’m not going to go further into my autobiography than I already have, but I stand by my statement in the face of your online observation. Enjoy your extensive interactions and I will enjoy my more curated ones.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

3g, Stranger is saying that your uncommonly broad experience leaves you in a good position to judge, and it seems likely that you are somewhat…unimpressed.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Ha! Alzaebo, you are the essence of tact and brevity, friend. And your conclusion is spot on.

ragincajun
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Maybe they are also unimpressed by you.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ragincajun
1 month ago

Hint: ragin’, she don’t care

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

“my daily “tolerance for stupidity” margin has been shrinking” I’m cursed with having a hyper sensitivity to expose to stupid people, specifically people who are both stupid & smug / arrogant which is seemingly the default combination. After discovering the Dunning-Kruger study about stupid people it suddenly made sense why it’s so common. At this point I’m confident that if I opened the puzzle box from the movie hellraiser pinhead would show up & decide to leave me right where I am. He’d be like “well this is awkward, usually this is where I’d summon hook chains to drag you… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

Is this another law of physics? The smug/stupid inverse ratio?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

Thanks for the explanation at the end. I have watched minimal TV or movies for literally decades, so most pop culture references are totally alien to me. And even the older ones with which I’m familiar I find totally overused (I absolutely detest the pretentious use of the faux word ‘grok’).

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I guess I should count myself lucky I haven’t ever encountered that word, first I’ve ever heard of it ironically enough. But yeah no problem, it’s funny I actually described it because I was worried it was too old of a movie to be referencing nowadays since it came out in 87. Admittedly there was other movies, they weren’t great & there was also a remake with a tranny that came out a few years back, because of course there was. My closest friends, a married couple, somehow keep watching new movies & shows together, I cannot comprehend how, I… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

I grew up watching the usual ’60s and ’70s schlock, with some exceptions. Once I hit college I stopped watching TV (too busy and too many other interesting things to do). Then I spent years overseas. Once back in the US the only thing I ‘watched’ was kids’ shows to carefully police (or so I thought at the time) what went into my kids’ brains. And we were too broke to go to many movies. So anything past mid’70s and I have no clue, unless one of my sons got me to watch it (such as Firefly).

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

That’s too bad the cutoff was the 70s, the 80s is the best decade for movies in my opinion. Everything that came after that was a downward slide especially when it comes to depictions of men, now people like to shit on 80s movies for toxic masculinity which speaks for itself really. Where I live our seasons go from mosquito bite to frost bite so during the worst months of the year when it’s miserable outside my routine when I’m home with nothing going on is reading books & watching movies/shows. Naturally I have a lot of exposure due to… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

Oh, I’ve seen some ’80s moves – a few in the theater (a number in other countries) and more via videos being mailed over. So I have a sampling to rely on.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

The aspect of “stupidity” as seen in the USA has been explained in the most part through diminished IQ due to human mutational load in the absence of strict Darwinian selection for the last 200 years or so—but not completely! Confounding/contributing to this theory are any number of factors. Major ones to note being importing of different (inferior) races, school standards lowered in response to this influx, reduction of meritocratic selection due to DIE considerations, which are in the end themselves due to the democratic process (even the stupid and unproductive must have a vote). Our saving Grace was in… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Just as Woke is the new term for Politically Correct, so too DIE is the new acronym for Affirmative Action. A lump of feces by any other name stinks just as badly.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

I actually think there’s a difference. AA was always understood to be about blacks. Once you had 10% Gangstalicious on your team you were done and everybody else just had to work 11.1% harder (do the math and you’ll see). DIE is more about lovingly curating a vast rainbow of freaks, perverts, cross-dressers, felons, recent immigrants who don’t speak any English, and that one guy with the grey skin and huge almond eyes whose car is saucer shaped. It’s much worse in its effects. For one thing, the rainbow of weirdos is much more than 10% of the population. In… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 month ago

Excellent comment.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 month ago

No disagreement as to current observations, but I am old enough to have been in on the beginning of AA, as in “before and after”. It wasn’t such in the beginning. Seen any number of early AA efforts that were intended to provide “equal and positive” inputs into the environment of those folks deemed “deprived” in order to bring them “up to snuff”. Head Start was one such program for example. It failed, as all such programs eventually do, because it was based on the false premise of “equality” between races. As soon as these program failures began to stack… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 month ago

Yeah, you’re right. I didn’t think that bit through enough.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

in our AC era” — also, in our AOC era.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

Semi-related. Not the conspiracy theory part, simply the crisis of competency. Your example of a bunch of DEI hires basically cutting, reactivating, and cutting various people’s internet connections show what we all know is coming. The cascade of failure will continue to grow as our average IQ continues to plummet due to the brown mud genetics that are becoming our national population. Goblinas and Pajeets cannot maintain 1st world infrastructure. This will range from small annoyances like your internet being disrupted up to catastrophic failures like doors falling off airplanes in mid-flight. This one is the latter sort. Call 911,… Read more »

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

I can’t even call my local police station to report ordinances anymore, they fired the woman who lived & worked here & replaced her with an out of state call center staffed by shaniquas. This guy was running heavy machinery at 11pm & I called & shaniqua explained she was our new non emergency dispatch & informed me that the sound ordnance for machinery is ackshully 24/7 & that my city’s website stating 8am to 8pm is wrong. She knows better you see, she has it right there on the computer. So now I have drive to my police station… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

This is bizarrely familiar, RVIDXR—and I bet I don’t live within a 1000 miles of you. People, it’s everywhere now.

Cmhi
Cmhi
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

And yet, you wrote “it’s” for “its”.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

Maybe that’s why Third World airports and cities look so shiny and modern in the pictures. They’re sending all their stupid people here, because we’re the world leader in that sort of education.

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RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Brain drain is definitely happening, there was a study that came out years ago talking about how Nigeria is being hurt by out migration of its most intelligent people. I don’t see any reason to assume they’re an exception & not just for intelligence but crime as well. I would love to see the crime statistics of muslim countries who have out migration to the West, I’d bet my life on it the crime rate has taken a nosedive. In particular the more shithole the country is the more they benefit from migrants leaving. Think about how we’re clinging to… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

There are a shit ton of despicable and repellent whites. It is why I’m not on the whites uber alles train. Puritans simply represent another set of problems.

I do think the United States is fracturing into multiple pieces, though, but even all-white enclaves, if they arise, will have people with the genetic predisposition to be hideous assholes.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

I know it’s inevitable we’ll have nasty people among us & perhaps those otherwise sane Whites who run apologetics for leftists is too, it just seems like we’re an extreme minority. As for the fracturing that definitely is happening at least politically but at the same time it’s getting blacked across the board via HUD housing, section 8 vouchers / apartment complex conversions & blackrock offering ridiculous amounts of money to people selling their homes then blacking the house. Meanwhile Whites are aging out & barely having kids as the hordes flow into country. I’m currently watching the convergence of… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

No doubt that is the plan. Additionally, alien fortresses like Colony Ridge keep popping up. The problem is the savages eventually gravitate towards the gibs, and those are most generous in densely populated urban centers. The most friction will be intrastate as a direct result, along with the feds leaning on governors and legislatures to expand Medicaid and so forth. I do agree it will become increasingly difficult to separate at some point in no small part due to the costs. As someone wrote here, I think, in a multiculti hellhole luxury is the ability to live far from diversity.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Thing about the gravitating towards gibs is true but the blacks are just like us in that they don’t want to live around other races especially south Americans who don’t speak English. That’s a big driving force of why those cities I mentioned are getting blacked, the cities get flooded with the migrants & the blacks start fanning out & of course we have HUD jews sitting around looking up zip codes deliberately blacking White areas. There was an article from some jewish woman bragging about that years ago, framed in muh diversity terms of course but you could tell… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

This actually makes sense in the largest picture, that whites are the fair flowers meant to be spread. Our castoffs are their upgrade.

It’s not fair, it’s not nice, but Nature is beyond morality.
There is still yet a direction to Creation, and we are its keel.

The Seeding layer must be populated. For that to happen, you must have whites in this world to provide the pass, else the entire flowering plant dies before budding.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

Spot on. Which is why I advocate a combination of self-sufficiency and as much social isolation from the larger toxic culture of Klownword as possible. I live 3 miles off the paved road and we have fiber optic internet. And when we had a few issues when we first moved in, the provider came all the way out to our place – free of charge – and found/fixed the issue. That is why we’ve ‘retreated’ to heritage America.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

3g, any thoughts on the storm in Texas and the problems restoring power?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Line: I no longer live there, thank God. Brother-in-law in Houston had no flooding but did lose power for 12 hours. We were prepared to offer emergency refuge, although they would have needed to sleep on the floor! Overall, Houston and environs is a teeming, third-world sh*thole. And Ercot has learned nothing and changed nothing since the 2021 ice storm – still too many women and people into the fantasy of green power for metropolitan areas. It will only get worse.

Pozymandias
Reply to  RVIDXR
1 month ago

I’m not negating your point but I can recall having problems with exactly this particular things way back around 2002. At my house in FL we had cable internet when it was still fairly new there. I recall the cable company, whose name might begin with a C and end with a T, sending an absolute parade of potheads and dumbasses to my place to “fix” problems. Only about 30% of them were brown. They really seemed to have some mysterious knack for finding the absolute dumbest fuckups in the White population. I did learn from this that, once something… Read more »

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 month ago

Oh that’s definitely par for the course to be sure but I never had to wait a month & a half to get my service fixed especially if they themselves broke it. Twenty years ago they would’ve sent out an emergency team to fix just my service let alone the entire block having their internet cut off. It’s the degree of the incompetence that’s changed, back then they would’ve gave me a discount for the trouble but this time around I had to fight to get my bill nullified for the month they weren’t providing me internet. Things weren’t hunky… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 month ago

Still prefer to go for “institutional idiocy” as the first explanation. Overall IQ has been leveling down. In the DC aristocracy, we’ve moved to the second and third generation offspring of intermarried bureaucrats…essentially “post turtles” in the positions they occupy. Add in new DIE entrants and you dumb things down even further. Zero accountability w/consequences adds to that. “I’m the first female lesbian to head the SS, I can’t be fired or held accountable”. Multiple failure points stack up and you get what you saw on Saturday.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

DEI is sand in the gears for the whole system and it is impossible to wall off any section from the competency crisis it brings about.

I always note that this SS rework was spearheaded by Obama, which, credit to him as DEI was more important to him than his own personal safety.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

Well, I think he knew he held the ultimate trump (no pun intended). Someone harms the first black (half white) President and the country burns from end to end. And he didn’t give a shit about what happened after…

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Remarkable how there hasn’t been any unrest since Saturday

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

It is possible to be too lawful for one’s own good…

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Have a black Apache pilot play the piccolo and you could lead them straight off a cliff.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Depressing, too.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

That just goes to show you how cucked rednecks have become. In a different time and place, they would have taken care of Zero. Or maybe, it shows you that conspiracies really are true. Zero was a made man so he didn’t get a bullet. The only ones that get bullets are the ones that have some real popular support among the people.

Fed Up
Fed Up
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Education used to mean something. Now it is a participation ribbon.
Lack of critical thinking, failure to learn from the past, ignorance of different cultures and themes across history.
Americans are in for a bumpy ride as they learn more about those Newcomers, and about the countries and cultures they left behind. Some will resist, others will push to turn up the temperature on the Melting Pot, and still more will check out of conventional society to the exurbs further from harm’s way. Many will have no choice but to ride it out.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Fed Up
1 month ago

I always like how Victor Hanson termed it. “Cattle Branding”

Fed Up
Fed Up
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Stampeding cattle?

Through the Vatican.

From Blazing Saddles,
Open to various interpretations.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Fed Up
1 month ago

The sheer number of people who can’t understand cause and effect or begin to conceive of unintended consequences is terrifying.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Fed Up
1 month ago

Most of the GenXer NormieCons and Boomercons I know believe that everyone on earth wants to be an American, watch football, grill and chill, and watch the stock market. Trying to reason with most whites is useless; conservatives love to drop the word “racist” as much as liberals. Any of us trying to point out natural differences is still going to encounter Lady Liberty Emma Lazarus, only wearing a red MAGA hat: “Whuddya’ mean, they won’t assimilate? I grew up next door to an Indian family in the 1980s! Neurosurgeons and nuclear physicists! They’re more American than you are! The… Read more »

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

I see this ALL the time and it turns my stomach. Everyone has his exception and almost all have been infected, to one degree or another, by the melting pot excreta. It’s why I’ve taken to endlessly repeating Horace on the matter.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

My take is somewhat different. I think it’s about the number of people more than it is about the diversity. If we had kept diversity to lower numbers, there wouldn’t be as many of us infuriated by the whole thing. It’s white replacement completely sanctioned by the people who supposedly represent us (JD Vance, Mitch McConnell, Trump) and it’s p*ssing a lot of us off.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

As someone who lives in the DC area, I can tell you that the managerial class has increasingly become a family affair. It’s natural. The father/mother move to DC to work for Congress, one of the committees, lobby firms, consulting firms, military, military contractors, tech firms related to the military, etc. Back in the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s, they came in droves from various parts of the US. They get married and raise a family in the DC suburbs. Their kids enjoy a nice live in a nice area. They go to a good college somewhere and when… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

The Distrito Federale is literally an autonomous zone, a separate country; their religious stories, traditions, and narratives seem strange to us.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

I wouldn’t have argued with you if you’d stated a separate planet vs a separate country.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Had some friends that lived in Bethesda that we used to visit a lot when the kids were little. All I ever met were people like this. Politics of DC seemed to be their entire world. And boy, was it an insulated world. Totally unacquainted with what lay outside.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

The thing is that a lot of these people – despite what Z says – are actually pretty book smart. They can do well in class. Some even hike and camp and do real people stuff.

But they never really mentally leave their bubble. They get good grades, go to good colleges. Even if they leave the DC area, it’s to NYC or Silicon Valley. They just go from one bubble to another. Everyone they know if is in the bubble. To them, it’s not a bubble world. It’s the real world. And they like it.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I grew up in that world and fully concur with all you’ve said. Even many years after my husband and I left DC and the fedgov, my parents could not comprehend why we (with our education and credentials and supposed smarts) would prefer the private sector. And this was when we merely left the east coast for a large DFW suburb. If she had any idea where we’ve chosen to live now (I don’t think she’s compos mentis any longer) she’d be totally astonished.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Even the few who go into the private sector aren’t really in the private sector. They’re usually go-betweens between the company and the govt.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

100% accurate and the reason I had to escape DC in a radical way. They love smelling their own farts basically. Very arrogant, book smart in some cases, yes, but profoundly ignorant in all other ways. This is what makes them so hard to tolerate. Pontificating about nearly everything from a place of faux knowledge while actually knowing very little. They are legion. Also, not just the family affair, but the social circle. I have friends here obviously that would be horrified if I ever revealed my true power level to them. They all work for NGOs and LOVE what… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

You’re spot on about their arrogance. The fact that they don’t think twice about absolutely trashing on flyover people in gatherings shows that they have zero fear that these people can do anything to them – personally or professionally – and that no one in their circles will disagree. I think that I’m one of the few people who wasn’t too shocked by Trump Derangement Syndrome because it reminded me of how DC people have been talking about Southern “rednecks” forever. Pure hatred and believing truly insane things about them and how they think. Of course, under all of that… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Citizen: When I recall my own arrogance and ignorance at 18 – when I first met and interacted with people from all over the US (central, south, and west) instead of the east coast bubble I’d been raised in, I cringe. And again thank God I learned better and was given the opportunity to change, and put in practice what I’d learned. If I could have a do-ever . . . well, you know how it goes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Smart take. It took me some time to realize the J6 hysteria was in fact real.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

That’s why I continue to waste time on these boards. I’m guessing that there are people who participate and lurk on these comment boards who really do have some power out in the real world. It’s mostly for my own personal entertainment, but still hoping to at least having a minuscule level of impact. I know I have at the local level.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

AP, Citizen: Very accurate. I was caught abroad in my youth among colonies of this stripe–East Coast fedgov types, cloistered in their little groups, dismissive of white Americans generally, Southerners in particular. I’m a Southerner and proud of it, and was treated as an exotic outlier. It would be hilarious when they finally realized the “Ugly American” stereotype of locals applied largely to them because (a) they were in the midst and (b) generally repellent. The fedgov abroaders often would have been going native (in their minds) up until that very realization, and then wheel around on the natives and… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Educated midwits is the right description. These people aren’t stupid, but they’re not geniuses either. (I know. I’m a midwit.) Heck, in fact, some are quite intelligent.

But I noticed right away that they lack a willingness to question things, to ask why. Even the bright ones had intellectual blinders on. You see it all the time with think tank people and “experts.” They were good in a classroom but were worthless in making decisions or trying to really figure out what was going on. It just never crosses their minds.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Independent thought isn’t their forte, for certain. Setting aside the Hive Mind business, many seem literally afraid even to entertain new theories and conclusions and venture outside their safe thought zones. This is true of most groups, of course, but especially pronounced with them. The handful I knew who did think independently were indeed quite intelligent, and while an assumption on my part since contact was severed, probably lived very sad lives if they remained cloistered in that environment. That last may be projection on my part because it would have applied to me possibly because I’m not tough enough.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Trust me, I understand. I live half my life feeling as though I’m a spy. I can’t let many of my neighbors and business associates know what I’m thinking.

Actually, it’s less like being a spy and more like I’m one of the last humans walking around at the end of the movie the Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

“I’m the first female lesbian to head the SS, I can’t be fired or held accountable”. But she accepted full responsibility, didn’t you hear? Accepting responsibility used to mean resigning and humbly staying quiet. Now it’s an opportunity to do the opposite of actually taking responsibility, as you puff your little chest out even further.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

It’s even worse however. She has a superior. Hell most everyone has a superior. In her case, the I’d say the President asks the Director of the org chart of which she is a part to request her resignation. Her position of Director is only of a smaller suborganization.

Ivan
Ivan
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

“Still prefer to go for “institutional idiocy” as the first explanation.”

Exactly, America is systemically broken at all levels; institutions, systems, structures and procedures. America no longer works. Trump assassination attempt epitomizes the brokenness of the country.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ivan
1 month ago

Having a redneck toting around an “Asian” second lady with a son named Vivek is what epitomizes the brokenness of this country in my opinion. When was the last non colonial era white ruler of India? God, people are stupid.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

TempoNick: They’re all busy reliving the moment Trump fist pumped and said “Fight!” I’ve already said kudos to the man for his manly-reaction and calm demeanor. But as Wild Geese said, no one ever bothers to think of long-term consequences. The consequences of introducing a subcon – a ‘devout’ and practicing Hindu no less – into the presidential family line of succession are predictable and awful for White people. But all the assassination attempt did was get people – even here – all fired up to vote harder.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

That’s my big mantra. It’s not just about religion or race, it’s about the entire social fabric of this country. It’s about who your kids are going to marry and what faith your grandkids are going to be raised in (probably none). It’s about the stability of their own families (interfaith marriages have a high rate of divorce). It’s about celebrating Christmas and Easter together as a nation. It’s about messing with the fabric that holds society together. It’s like the old saying about everybody else only playing checkers. Can’t anybody think even one or two steps ahead?

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

One reason white guys are going for indians, asians, latinas etc is because the brown and yellow girls actually smile at them sometime.

I’m serious. So many White girls have become totally unsmiling and unapproachable.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Fakeemail
1 month ago

That’s not a bad point, actually. Women from foreign cultures do seem to be much better at expressing their femininity.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

also at expressing a lack of snobbery or defensiveness.

I’m not even blaming white women. They’ve been brainwashed to hate men, to be man, hate whiteness, etc. And they are still the most desired female and getting more desired because they are rarer than ever. So I can see them becoming defensive from all the male gazes they get.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

I’m currently in Taiwan and it’s breathtaking how much more feminine the typical female presents herself when compared to her American counterparts. I’ve spent chunks of time in the Far East going back almost 30 years and the gulf widens all the time. I see a few more tattoos but they’re still rare and never garish like a sleeve or full back. Dresses and skirts are still very common, and even more casual outfits are commonly given a feminine touch. In the past week, I haven’t seen a single pair of leggings/yoga pants. And yes, there are behavioral cues that… Read more »

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Fakeemail
1 month ago

“So many White girls have become totally unsmiling and unapproachable” and obese, inked, metaled, and obnoxious. Finished it for ya.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

But all the assassination attempt did was get people – even here – all fired up to vote harder. Can confirm. Here is a real conversation I had yesterday with an acquaintance. I was at work when he, reading from his phone, told me that Trump had chosen J D Vance. I said, ” I can’t stand that guy.” “Why not?” ” I read his book and the guy comes across as an elitist, backstabbing snob who dumps all over the poor Whites he grew up among. Plus he’s married to an Indian.” Without pausing for a single moment the… Read more »

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

I don’t like either of those two, but who exactly is Trump supposed to pick? What options were Based Bigots hoping for?

Mike Pence?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Bloated Boomer
1 month ago

Yeah, that might have been a better choice actually. It’s the devil you know.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bloated Boomer
1 month ago

Thinking rescue from the system is going to come from participating within the system is classic civnat behavior.

Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Reply to  Bloated Boomer
1 month ago

@ Bloated Boomer
The other Mike P – Mike Peinovich 🙂

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Bloated Boomer
1 month ago

My post was about people so deluded, brainwashed, and mind controlled they cannot understand any aspect of our situation except the surface appearance. People who don’t care about importing non White worshipers of strange gods because they cannot understand why it matters.

Then you chimed in. Are you being ironic, maybe?

Based Bigots, is it? You are a fool.

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Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

These reactions must be my karma for insinuating Ostei was a civnat/normiecon cuckservative ages ago.

Ironic? I suppose it was. I didn’t mean Based Bigots in a pejorative way.

I’ve seen Fuentes and Anglin, amongst others, make some big deal out of the JD Vance pick but I don’t understand why this is worse than the alternatives.

Or if you’re in the camp that thinks voting is pointless or trump sucks and is a shabos or whatever, why get hung up on the Vance detail?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

Unfortunately, yes you are. You (we) are living in a Western, “deracinated” society. We are abnormal, he is not.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

I will once again shamelessly kowtow as I laud our host; the Zman was the first to point out India colonizing Anglo-America. The Bobs and Vagene are becoming a power.
We used to laugh at the Vaudevillians, once upon a time, too.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

Oh Lord, I empathize. It’s yet another symptom of “We’re all the same, the human race,” or the Bushite proclamation that “Family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande.” Obviously being human includes some fundamental similarities, but these sorts of platitudes are merely more emotional versions of seeing people as fungible economic units.

People are DIFFERENT. Races, religions, cultures, classes. Those differences matter more than any principles they supposedly espouse. Watch how they live, not what they say. And when crunch time comes, they always return to their people and roots. Always.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

Any man who takes a bullet from the Power Structure and keeps fighting gets my vote, even knowing dam’ well that voting changes nothing.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

3g-

My current working theory is that Vance’s wife is the globalist plant meant go subvert a second Trump administration.

Go read her bio. It’s a literal catalog of all the proper globalist credentials and experiences.

Gideon
Gideon
1 month ago

We have to learn to live with the fact that there’s a lot of stuff we just don’t know. We’re told explosives were found in the assassin’s car. We’re told he got up on the roof via a tall ladder which probably wouldn’t have fit in said car. Was it like those pallets of bricks strategically delivered to BLM riot locations? (Apparently no one in government has bothered to track down the renters of the U-Haul trucks—snaps of which were helpfully uploaded to social media—possibly used in their logistics.) Then this former BlackRock advertising extra was up on a nearby… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Gideon
1 month ago

Stephanie’s idea of a lucrative conspiracy niche seems assured.
How many books are we going to get from this?
Maybe the movie in 30 years will give us a black Trump…and of course the shooter will still be white trailer trash.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Or a Russian. When in doubt, go with a Rooskie villain.

TempoNick
TempoNick
1 month ago

The end of the line for the West is when self-described rednecks like JD Vance start marrying and pooping out kids with the kinds of people they used to hang not too long ago. And that Sikh prayer at the convention last night? Meet your new overlords, Indians.

Disgusting.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

That Indians were able to invade and become the new Jews more or less with nothing but having learned a bit of English from the Brits shows that resisting aggressive ethnocentric groups is an intrinsic weakness of our society.

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

Excellent point.

NeoSpatran
NeoSpatran
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

No, I don’t buy this. Movies, television, newspapers, plays, etc. Have been laying the mental groundwork for this type of suicidal naive sympathy in the collective white consciousness for a century now. Longer even, if you take a critical eye to some of the underlying messages within even certain 19th century theatrical productions. Even as recently as WW2, US propaganda efforts had to appeal to a very blatant and visceral racial consciousness. Look at how the japs are depicted in the media of the time. Buck toothed, exaggerated eyes, and strong implications that they wanted to kill us and rape… Read more »

jake
jake
Reply to  NeoSpatran
1 month ago

In the uS they will kill you.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

There was a Sikh prayer at the Republican Convention? The Republicans really are worse than worthless…

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
1 month ago

At the end of the evening, they closed with a Christian prayer, I’m assuming the priest was Catholic even though they called him “Pastor Remke.” Then Harmeet Dillon sang some weird Sikh prayer at the end. I turned the TV off.

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Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Yes, I can’t get either image out of my mind. She’s so brown. I havnt even bothered looking up the kids. Not gunna. Don’t forget how emboldened the Indians will get seeing little brown kids running the White House

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

What in human affairs is not a conspiracy? The issue here is branding. That word has been successfully branded. Trademarked. I don’t need the world to make sense. If there was no God I could live with that. But I do notice when I’m being lied to, and sometimes, especially in public affairs nowadays, the lying is so obvious anyone can see it. Not to mention pervasive. If you don’t want me to “theorize” about “conspiracies,” then don’t lie to me. Don’t tell me I need to stay home because of the plague, but that it’s ok for people to… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Addendum: Cheatle’s new statement that a decision was made not to post an agent on that rooftop because it was too sloped does not wash at all. As you can see from the picture at the link, the roof in question is no more sloped, probably less sloped, than the one where SS snipers were posted.

The Attempt on Trump: Dissecting an Inside Job – Identity Dixie

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

If this is true (the statement) then it pushes the needle toward government inside job. That, or her advisors are intentionally feeding her stupidity to have her take the fall (I guess she never had to deal with roof slopes at Pepsi/Frito-Lay).

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

She said the Secret Service was aware of the security vulnerabilities presented by the building Crooks took a sniper’s position on to aim at Trump. However, a decision was made not to place any personnel on the roof.  “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside,” she said.  Secret Service director: Trump rally shooter was identified as ‘potential person… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Good heavens, what an imbecile.

Listen, you silly cow–if you’re in the SS it’s your job to put yourself in harm’s way to protect the potential target of violence. And if your pweshus wittle agents are too cowardly to perch on a sloped roof, then find a few who actually have a set of balls.

This isn’t merely stupidity and incompetence, it’s also cowardace.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

This isn’t merely stupidity and incompetence, it’s also cowardace.


I think you’re overlooking sheer laziness. Nobody is taught how to work anymore. I don’t dispute the stupidity and cowardice, but let’s not lose sight of the “Ain’t my job,” DMV Jogger mentality so many Whites have imbibed with their rap and their rat’s nest dreds.

Walk an extry 100 yards? Agent Cornsyrup sez no, Jack!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
1 month ago

Yeah, there are many components to this attitude and all of them are beneath contempt.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

I’m with Ostei on this. There’s got to be gear available to secure the agents on the roof. People secure themselves to the sides of fucking cliffs for God’s sake! The other SS guys on the other buildings seemed to have just set up at the peak of the roof where you can anchor yourself at the top of the ^ shape. And of course, like every other “lone wolf” perp in the world it seems, the Alphabet people knew about him before he “snapped”. The population of people known to the alphabet people do so much snapping that they’re… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 month ago

It’s possible. That would mean Crooks was a de facto contract agent of an agency and that he’d been given an unofficial brief to take out Trump.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

But for the fact that the “after” pictures of the dead assassin on the roof show it to be no more sloped (and looked less sloped) than the roof upon which they DID put agents.

I live in an area where the roofs are probably pitched 45 degrees or higher – the assassin roof couldn’t have been more that 20, which is nothing. Heck, you don’t even need a sniper on there – just a few officers to make sure there isn’t anyone climbing up there.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

Hear hear on the commercial roof slopes. As Compsci pointed out, I even recognize the white coating his silouette stood out on. Now the report comes out they watched and let the guy stay up there an half an hour before the shots were fired. (And he was headshot immediately, as if a sniper had him in scope the whole time.)
Another pointed out…is this guy Crooks or is this guy Yearwick?

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Too sloped for what?

Fed Up
Fed Up
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

For the old uniforms.
Need some zillion dollar studies and procurement consulting contracts to ensure that the new DEI uniforms are up to the moving goal post standard.
And it used to be just those $600 toilet seats. Ah, good times. /:

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Too sloped is just BS being regurgitated by the Director who did not bother to check the situation herself. It’s a “hangout” as they say in the biz. The aerial pictures I saw showed a roof easily walked upon. Indeed my first thought was, “Don’t they get lots of snow in PA?”

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

They all used freon and ICEs until they warmed the planet. Now they can have flat roofs just like them socialites in Martha’s Vineyard. They think they’re better’n us!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

It sure wasn’t too sloped for Crooks, was it?

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

It just came out that the local police were literally inside that building. They saw the guy with a rangefinder, then… did nothing.

RDittmar
Member
1 month ago

A little bit off topic, but I saw some footage of Trump at the convention this morning and I have never seen him so intensely humbled. I think he’s been gradually learning it these past few months, but I wonder if dodging that bullet has finally made him realize how much responsibility is resting on his shoulders.

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wicked unbeliever
wicked unbeliever
Reply to  RDittmar
1 month ago

A brush with the grim reaper refocuses your priorities wonderfully well, the only thing and I mean the ONLY thing that matters, is family..

Horace
Horace
Reply to  wicked unbeliever
1 month ago

One of the first patterns I noticed when I started reading history as a young man was that ruling classes get destroyed when don’t have an ethnocentric working class having their back. Reliance upon mercenaries, especially foreign ones, is folly. If you are ruling class and value your family, then you better have a working class at your back which has conscious self-interest in your perpetuation, because it is in THEIR interest. I think one can model the power networks competing for rule over America as two Jewish factions (funded, led, organized by, but not exclusively composed of): the ‘genocide’… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  wicked unbeliever
1 month ago

Oh joy, more Javanka. And let’s not forget Tiffany’s Lebanese husband.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

My answer is going to depend on whether he is Catholic or Muslim. I couldn’t find out the information after some quick googling. Yankees may disagree, but as a southern European, my definition of heritage America is basically Europe, the Roman Empire and its frontiers. Lebanon was part of the Roman Empire and nobody seemed to mind Danny Thomas and Jamie Farr too much. If he’s Lebanese Catholic, I’m kind of okay with that. Not ideal, but not completely off the mark.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

I’m mixed on the issue. Yes, the Lebanese populace is heavily mixed and includes people on all sides of the color, culture, and religious spectrum. I have known Maronite Christians from Lebanon and Syria, and while they were definitely Christians and majority White, there were still notable cultural differences, some good and some bad.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Oh, I completely agree, but they still have the core basics that allow them to assimilate within American society over time. Growing up as an immigrant, especially within a strong family structure, it takes time to work through the ways of the place you came from, even as somebody born here. I think if you come from a culture that is traditionally Christian, you’ve got those basics.

That’s why I’m not horrified about Latin American immigration, like somebody people are on these kinds of boards, so long as they control the numbers. Asian immigration I’m not fond of.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Disagree re Latin American immigration. Christianity is a vital component, but it is insufficient in and of itself (i.e. Nigerian and Korean “Christians” will never be Americans). Race is more important. I suggest you look further into Latin American demographics – too many seem to believe the initial statistics offered online. DaBears claimed Argentina was 90% White the other day – not at all so. The following shows that even the Whitest % are about 76% White, and that’s a quite small portion of the overall population. The same study also found there were great differences in the ancestry amongst… Read more »

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Christianity is a vital component, but it is insufficient in and of itself christianity unifies the races in faith, but not in everyday interactions. It’s not even that race is more important, it’s that it’s not a society if it’s multicultural so Christianity has nowhere to go. Yes, this individual or that individual in a big pen of individuals like the us is, can become Christian and it’s necessary for each individual to make that assent of the mind, but since the collection of individuals CANT be a society because they don’t have the biological stuff to make one ,… Read more »

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Really? Gosh I’m always the last one to know this stuff

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  RDittmar
1 month ago

“The shot heard around the world
THE GREAT AWAKENING
A WEEK TO REMEMBER.”
https://qalerts.app/?n=572

“THE GREAT AWAKENING”
https://qalerts.app/?n=3430 (dated July 14th)

“A WEEK TO REMEMBER”
https://qalerts.app/?n=3434 (also dated July 14th)

Hun
Hun
Reply to  RDittmar
1 month ago

Trump, a changed man, with a soft voice and humble demeanor, now sensitive to the needs of minorities, refugee-Americans and womxn, could be a great new narrative. I hope someone from NYT reads this comment section.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Trump is an actor and the assassination attempt was staged. In what reality do they leave such an obvious place for a shooter to be left unguarded?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Of course we’re all wary, everybody even Trump lies, and we all asked ourselves that same question the first moment and discarded it a moment later.

If not but for a slight glance at a message board, the “dye packs make splodey heads” cult wouldn’t be here.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Well, if you’ve been following this as long as I have, you know that Dr Steven Pieczenik is on the team. He’s Hollywood. Now how hard would it be to rig some Hollywood special effects?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

What part of my comment made you respond the way you did?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

You said he was a humbled man. I don’t see that, but if it’s true, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was an act.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

You need to develop a sense of humor.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Is there anything in your world that isn’t “staged” or “an act”?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  RDittmar
1 month ago

All a game until you get part of your ear shot off.

mmack
mmack
1 month ago

Given we’re four years on from the beginning of a ginned-up world-wide panic over a virus do you blame people for immediately suspecting a conspiracy regarding the attempted assassination of a Presidential Candidate?

The media exists, to a great degree, to fabricate narratives, even when the facts are clear.

People who don’t “Love Big Brother” suspect any utterance from official government or government adjacent body, like say the press. The press tells me “inflation has been tamed” yet who should I believe, the press or my eyes that see my credit card statement and thinning wallet? Expand that out.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  mmack
1 month ago

I was young, so I could simply have not been paying attention, but it seems to me since 9/11 it’s been the politics of the stampede. This coincides with the growth of the internet, which killed the politics of narrative. How to manage a stampede, rather than a rapt audience? I guess tptb have settled on trying to direct it, rather than controlling it.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  mmack
1 month ago

The covid “pandemic” is one of the few things that I will never believe was caused by simple incompetence and mistakes.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

It was a case of never letting a crisis go to waste. The Power Structure didn’t plan the so-called “pandemic,” but once Covid popped up they sure hoisted in the possibilities and took full advantage of them.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

In this case, I think you may be too generous. Or maybe not sufficiently cynical.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Not to descend into a semantics argument, but “plan” is doing a lot of work there. Was it intentional? Dunno. I do know the virus was created with federal funding and that was hidden. The response was a wet dream for various interests who had devised ways to implement social engineering previously unthinkable.

They certainly planned for it. I get you are implying as much, but due to the long-running programs developed to implement lockdowns and push the MRNA vaccine, we simply cannot discount intent although the evidence is not there yet.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

What? The evidence is gone from a trickle to an avalanche.
The intent was to get the big boulders rolling, they worked on this for decades, with billions invested in it.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
1 month ago

The decline will continue at a record pace as long as our society continues to wage war on reality. In all of recorded history reality has never been defeated and it will not be any different this time. The egalitarian paradise is not going to come no matter how many black and brown retards get put into positions they are grossly unqualified to carry out. Things will break down even further. Won’t be long before we see our first plane crash. It’s already come dangerously close.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 month ago

How many women have been raped and/or killed since they’ve all become convinced by the media that “women rule” and are more badass then men? Plenty of people have already suffered the effects of racial and sexual reality – and most of them still deny it. One notable exception that I’m aware of is Lara Logan after her sexual mauling in Egypt.

Whitney
Member
1 month ago

“In a process that began in the Renaissance, the conception of the person was progressively stripped of his essential features. Numerous truths were denied: first, man’s being ordered to God and his destiny of eternal Union with Him; then, the immortality of the soul; then, the capacity for an authentic knowledge of reality; then the substantiality of the soul; then, free will, and so on. The process began with the ambition of making man into God and ended by making him a more highly developed animal or even a bundle of sensations. It is not surprising that in the course… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Whitney
1 month ago

The idea of man as his own God is nihilistic, why is why Wokism is a nihilistic path to nowhere.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Something I struggle with. I have a feeling monotheism is about developing a conscience, more or less, and one’s conscience becomes one’s god, or at least the interface with God. You have to listen to it, though. In Christian terms, Satan would be the one telling you you’re your own god, as he thought he could be. Protestantism obviously takes it the farthest, with its lesser emphasis on the communal aspects of Church and Tradition, in favor of Scripture, which is revealed— obviously much more individual. I can see where some would argue that’s satanic, yet the whole thing about… Read more »

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Ye shall be as gods…promised the serpent.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whitney
1 month ago

“Numerous truths were denied: first, man’s being ordered to God…” “…democracy is it tells people that they are in charge, but that is impossible, and people sense it, so without a clear shot caller…” Our deepest instinct as social animals is to arrange ourselves; we primates do this around an alpha male flagpole. Our complicated system of loyalties and signaling arises fractally as we arrange ourselves according to our distances near or far to that flagpole, a dance of six degrees of separation. Being ‘connected’ is the whole of it; emotion, the language we used before speech itself, is the language… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Sorry. A long way of saying democracy must be pooled and gated; trying to scale it up to national level without a monarch is like trying to make multicultural mixing work without fences. Democracy is an insult to nature.

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pyrrhus
pyrrhus
1 month ago

People sense that things in their society have diverged from what they recall as happier times, and they are searching for the cause(s)…The actual cause is that societies, and especially empires, age into oligarchies which are run exclusively for the benefit of the rich and powerful, who have no allegiance to their countrymen…Therefore, they steal everything, fight wars that are really elite squabbles, and come to hate their own countrymen…Collapse follows, and a few centuries later, it starts over…

jwm
jwm
1 month ago

The advent of AI will be the death of credibility. When every image, and every word can be computer generated we have no reason at all to believe that any of it is real. Indeed, it calls into question the very existence and nature of reality. Is it all fake? Who’s to tell?There are very good reasons to mistrust any and everything that comes across electronic media. “The princess and the prince discuss what’s real, and what is not.”

JWM

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  jwm
1 month ago

I started assuming this years ago with sportsball. It’s all fixed and they’re all on drugs.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Most of my family from the previous generations comes from Southeastern Europe. I used to laugh at my uncle for saying sportsball games were rigged. We live in an honest, law abiding country. America wouldn’t do things like that. Here I am in late middle age now agreeing with him. He was right. Especially two Super Bowls ago, the first played by the Rams in their new stadium, reintroducing the team to a market that never really cared about pro football. Uh huh.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  jwm
1 month ago

Eventually, as the tech god proves to not be godlike, people might have to learn to trust their own senses and their own minds again, maybe even listen to that still small voice instead of noisy and seductive screens. Icky stuff, I know!

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  jwm
1 month ago

When every image, and every word can be computer generated we have no reason at all to believe that any of it is real.

It’s not ideal, but it’s a step forward from the television era, where we believed all of it was real.

People need to question reality more.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
1 month ago

Interesting post, Zman, especially the thoughts on the origin of the term “conspiracy.” In former times, the idea of “conspiracy” usually implied a large element of secrecy, to protect the conspirators before and (usually) after the fact. The “perfect” conspiracy would be totally unnoticed. But one trait of the present day variety, it seems to me, is that ”conspiracies” are meant to assert raw power: the ability of some elite party to act against the rules, get away with it, *and* force the rest of the society’s organs to go along with its narrative of the event, no matter how… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 month ago

“In a way, they are meant to be noticed as such.” They certainly are meant to be noticed, and used as a strawman to discredit our side and common sense.

What these deliberately ludicrous accusals remind me of is a dominance display by red squirrels; when one red squirrel wishes to win an argument, he sticks his erect d**k in the face of the other. “So there!”

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 month ago

Aye. Conspiracy theorizing is in direct proportion to societal distrust. If the Power Structure hates conspiracy theories, it needs to look in the mirror and ask why they exist.

Whiskey
Whiskey
1 month ago

Sean Davis and others (cites on Ace of Normies, if you want the originals), are arguing that Dr. Jill and others sought to kill Trump by Bureaucratic means. That they systematically drained his security team of resources, and scheduled at the last minute a Dr. Jill appearance that drained even more people from his team, and assigned only the most junior and inept people to protect Trump. That Jack Smith has big beefy professional dudes protecting him while Trump had … Melissa McCarthy. Furthermore, there were no snipers on the roof because “the roof was too steep” per the SS… Read more »

DanJ
DanJ
1 month ago

Over the years you have stated several times that we need a new “version” of Christianity. I think Christians need to focus on Christs entire ministry not just the Beatitudes. The current interpretation (or version if you will) is due to the feminization of Christianity, which is THE problem today. It has destroyed the Protestant church and is making headway with Catholicism.
Christ never backed down once from his theological positions. He argued with and insulted his adversaries a number of times in the Gospels. Christians just need to go back to basics and get a spine.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  DanJ
1 month ago

That’s entirely the problem – modern Christianity IS a new version of Christianity.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  DanJ
1 month ago

That’s what all the splits and schisms are about.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

The online dialog about the Trump assassination fiasco is an attempt at crowdsourcing the analysis in the hope of producing a clearer understanding of what actually happened. And this is not wasted effort. The new internet age has amassed a huge reservoir of information and facial recognition may allow for distributed investigation of many of the people present that day. That is a window into these players, just as the Blackrock ad featuring the shooter is relevant. Sherlock Holmes was popular for good reason. Do not be dissuaded just because they mock you. Fuck the Stasi whores.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

“the Blackrock ad featuring the shooter”

Another bit of evidence that this is a psyop. No such thing as coincidence.

Fed Up
Fed Up
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Along the same lines as the early visibility of Mayo Pete and Vivek Ramaswamy. They were plucked from obscurity to be young, energetic answerers.

Justinian
Justinian
1 month ago

I don’t buy this conciliatory crap coming from the media and the establishment. They all sound like they are apologizing to someone because Trump is not dead.

Also, I noticed all media sources say law enforcement is not commenting while they determine the shooter’s motive. By that, they mean law enforcement is working on framing a narrative about the shooting which can then be disseminated through all the usual channels. Anyone dissenting will be exiled.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Justinian
1 month ago

They’re not investigating; they’re confecting the narrative.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

There is no common mental frame for society, ie “shared narrative”. This means society is coming apart. In such an environment one man’s explanation is another’s conspiracy theory. I don’t see how there can be a shared narrative with either the left or the elite. So it’s all rough seas ahead as far as the horizon

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

“Shared narrative.” Perfect. The concept in a nutshell.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

Pretty hard to have a shared narrative when the people don’t have a shared heritage.

Ploppy
Ploppy
1 month ago

I tried to sort out what the most likely scenario was by mapping out all the possible ones and gauging their plausibility: 1. Fake and Gay – Trump pops blood squib on ear while groomed kid shoots blanks and real sniper blows away a few audience members for good measure. The problem with this is that it just doesn’t feel like something Trump would do and he’d have to be involved in this. He’d have to go to the doctor and have his ear mutilated afterwards as well, and there are just so many people who would try and spill the beans… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

I’m starting to see it as of a piece with the Biden debate fiasco, suggesting that the debate nosedive wasn’t planned or intentional, it panicked the PTB into doing this, and the short time frame and lack of planning showed.

After Cheatle’s statement today, there is practically no doubt left in my mind that USSS was in on this somehow.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

3 and 4 seem most likely, with 5 a close second. A stand-down from the command/control SS officer on site would be enough to keep the locals from interfering.

Heard some speculation that they were not sure if assassin was “one of theirs” or local law enforcement taking a position, but I find that hard to believe. Hard, but not impossible I suppose. Also find it hard to believe there were no boots patrolling that roof which seemed to be the most logical place to make an assassination attempt.

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Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

Timing is just too perfect…they just happened to have lax security and this kid picking the perfect spot, right after debate and before Rep convention? CNN livestreaming? No way. Planned & I expect they will take another shot before November.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

I vote fake and gay, no victims. That blood stained face of the kid on the roof looked like it was painted on. I agree Trump wouldn’t be involved in killing innocent people. The other “victims” probably reactivated military/intel, given a seat, top secret mission.

Like I said, I’m having trouble believing Ashley Babbitt was really shot. I just don’t believe the average office building cop is going to be so quick to start shooting at people. Could be, but given everything else that has gone on, I’m still sticking with my gut on this.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Ashli Babbit’s killer wasn’t an average office building cop, he was a nut. There’s video of him running around inside the capital waving his gun in the air over his head like a wild man way before he shot Ashli.

Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Reply to  Ploppy
1 month ago

Good breakdown of possibilities, Ploppy. I go somewhere between scenario 2 and 3.

The sadistic PTB and their media WANTED to show Trump’s cantaloupe blown out live on TV. That would have been the kill shot for MAGA and Heritage America literally and spiritually. Imagine the humiliation ritual of replaying his head splattering in slow-mo over and over. It’s just dumb luck that BOM turned his head at the last second.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
1 month ago

They would have loved to make us all watch that. It’s a twofer for their sick sadistic nature, deeply traumatizing the good and giving the bad fap murder porn and dragging their souls further into depravity. (And that sadistic set-up really has nothing to do with politics, politics would just be the tool they used to cause trauma.)

No wonder people want it to be a psyop where no one died, as opposed to facing just how sick and soulless these people in charge really are.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 month ago

Aww, fudge. Here we go, folks.
Kudos to those who are wary of being burned again and tried to keep an even keel (Compsci) and judos to those brave enough to brainstorm even the outrageous (Felix Krull)…now over to WRSA:

“JD Vance’s company Narya Capital is an investor in Amplify Bio. Amplify Bio is in partnership RNAV8 Bio with creating more mRna vaccine”

“His wife works/worked for a self-defined ‘radically progressive’ law firm, and she was a registered Democrat at some point.”

It’s conspiracies all the way down.
This ain’t Clown World, it’s Conspiracy World.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

“Narya Capital” – reminds me of the pretty white girl that marries into the rich Jewish family. They control everything, everything becomes Jewish. She sticks out like a sore thumb. Almost like being a Stepford Wife. Ugh.

Paul Ryan 2.0

Maniac
Maniac
1 month ago

Mostly on-topic – I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this:

https://legacyfirearmsco.com/news/the-list-of-clinton-associates-who-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/

That’s an awful lot of people.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

The biggest problem for the Regime Media/ABC-CBS-NBC etc. showing us what they want and establishing a narrative is the ubiquitousness of cell phone videos. Today, anyone can be a reporter and the internet allows (depends on which site) videos to be seen by thousands, maybe millions.

Maxda
Maxda
1 month ago

The problem is that people have not recalibrated their expectations for current level of incompetency. Nobody who knows even a little bit about rifles and security can believe they’d leave that roof unguarded accidently. Maybe it was intentional, but with the FBI investigating, we’ll never know.

Jannie
Jannie
1 month ago

Anyone who think Prigozhin’s plane crash was anything but an accident is a conspiracy theorist!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

> Perhaps we return to the old gods or maybe some new version of the Christian God. 

One of the unfortunate effects of enlightenment thinking is the degradation of ancient folk beliefs that functioned hand-in-hand with Christian society. I’m thinking the fairies for traditional Irish people, Drudes and other mystical creatures for the Germans, etc. Those old folkways are probably not coming back, but something new will take their place.

Christianity is going to move away from both the hyper-rationalist theological deity and the emotive Evangelical “Personal Jesus” to an opaque, mystical, and primal First Force in the universe.

wicked unbeliever
wicked unbeliever
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

I am reminded of the old Twilight Zone episode called “the old man in the cave”, which told people in a post apocalyptic world which foods were safe to eat, come to find out it was a computer, and they were so angry at being deceived they destroyed it and consequently ate contaminated food/booze, and all died.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  wicked unbeliever
1 month ago

If you like that kind of stuff i would recommend the book version of the post man. Way better then Kevin Costner movie.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  wicked unbeliever
1 month ago

Well, James Coburn’s character, a soi dissant military commandant named French, convinced them that they were being deceived. The computer, of course, had been telling them the unpalatable–so to speak–truth. French, on the other hand, told the people what they wanted to hear and imbibing that polite fiction got them all killed.

In the postmodern West, who is the computer and who is French?

Gotta love Coburn, by the way. One of the coolest actors of all time.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

These are such stellar comments, both Chet and Wicked, excepting that a move “…to an opaque, mystical, and primal First Force in the universe” is a terrible error. It won’t satisfy human instincts and needs; it is an obfuscation tried many times by the priests, a back-handed way that prevents, rather than accords, both understanding and satisfaction.

A return to the folkways is a right way; it is the demand that there be an opaque “First” that is the cause of the problem. I’m saying the ultimate is not, and should not, be a mystery.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 month ago

“At the end of history, the last man is a guy wrapped in aluminum foil staring into a mirror.”
This is just brilliant. The conspiracy theory flourishes in an era wherein men have no sense of agency. They look outside themselves for causes to their predicament. The mirror tells the story.

Dad Bones
Dad Bones
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Many years ago someone told me to always investigate rational explanations before blaming or giving credit to inexplicable forces of energy more powerful than ourselves. That was his way of making fun of my tin foil hat.

c matt
c matt
1 month ago

the 1940’s, which was long before the Central Intelligence Agency existed

I thought the OSS created during WW II was the CIA’s precursor?

Tars Tarkas
Member
1 month ago

The problem with the term “Conspiracy theory” is it has become weaponized. Some of the conspiracies I’ve heard are just insane. Some sound plausible, but some are just out there. So anything going around that puts the beautiful people in a bad light is just dismissed as a “conspiracy theory” It’s a “poisoning the well” tactic. Conflate some reasonable thing with something obviously stupid and insane. Atheist Michael Shermer is famous for doing this directly. Equate the target with Bigfoot and UFO abductions. It’s such a scummy tactic. Add in the insane “influencer” who will say anything for attention and… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
1 month ago

“…or maybe some new version of the Christian God.”

Please, no more He Gets Us commercials.

Steve w
Steve w
Reply to  Valley Lurker
1 month ago

The progressive churches have been busy for some time creating this new version. Instead of emulating Christ, they have reshaped Christ so that he emulates them.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Steve w
1 month ago

A profound and very true observation.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
1 month ago

Here’s the thing about the gods: if you believe in them, they are real. The thoughts of the brain are a real physical thing that exist in reality. The believer and the god are not separate. If you believe you make it real and then find out it was always real.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Fakeemail
1 month ago

The thought is real. The construct is real. But whether the sign refers to an actual signified is another matter.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

The part of Fukuyama’s book that is correct — I do not wish to enter into a discussion about the rest of it — is what he lifted directly from Kojeve and Nietzsche, which is the concept of “the Last Man.” And Nietzsche was correct. We live among the Last Men. At Kojeve’s time, it was a possibility but not yet a reality. Now we are there.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

What is that “Last Man”? Is it the idea that the ruling classes have gone from mere cynicism to full unbelief?

That is, that there is no possibility of a Judge or even karmic Judgement above them, that they are free to “do as thou wilt, is the whole of the Law”?

Is that what Nietzsche meant, that if men lost God (natural hierarchy), they might find Nothing- not nihilism or hopelessness, no, but the lack of all restraints.

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Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

“The Last Man” is from Nietzsche’s “Zarathustra.”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_man

See below for my follow-up question. Intellectual curiosity, guys. C’mon.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

Seems Fukuyama also mentioned CS Lewis’ concept of “men without chests.” Related to the Last Man, I believe. But we’re beyond that stage now. Not only do men no longer have chests, they have ta-tas instead.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

“The Last Man” is from Nietzsche’s “Zarathustra.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_man

I’m curious: why don’t you guys ever look these things up for yourselves? Sort of concerning, don’t you think?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

Yeah, no shit, dude. My recollection is that Fuk also mentioned that Lewis concept. But you’re always in such a rush to be pissed off that you can’t be bothered to pay attention.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

You’re on the most rapid-fire commenters on here. Please with the fake outrage.

Is that what Nietzsche meant.

You asked a question. I told you to look it up. You didn’t and pretended you knew about it already. Pride, brother.

By the by, you mentioned CS Lewis. Have you looked up the Lewis for yourself yet, or did you expect me to do that for you, too?

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Steve W
Steve W
1 month ago

So much about the attempted assassination that doesn’t add up. Where is the curiosity about the shooter, his background, his family? We see “little to no presence on social media” as though that winds things up and best to move on. But what about his presence in meatspace? I presume he had a family, an apartment or dwelling, a circle of acquaintances, maybe narrow but sufficient enough for actual reporters to work out a portrait of the young man.

No curiosity at all.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
1 month ago

This campaign will go down in history as the War of Trump’s ear.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
1 month ago

How much you want to bet that Trump’s butler is some South of the Border mystery meat and not a proper Jenkins of the old school. (They’re still big on classically-trained English butlers and nannies in East Asia — the ultimate status symbol to go with the Gulfstream.)

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
1 month ago

Someone wrote here or somewhere else the other day a comment that cuts right through the “incompetence/malice” interminable debate.

Incompetence opens the door for malice and maliciousness. An incompetent person is too stupid to comprehend the very concept, because their sole conceit in life is that they can read the minds of other people and know “what they are thinking.”

Filthie
Filthie
Member
1 month ago

Well…when your heart can’t be trusted, that leaves only the mind.

Maybe “our democracy” created the first leaderless state. In this state it is impossible to control it… only influence it?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

The BFE is a massive glob of toxic ectoplasm conjured by the mental force of the Left. It slithers and oozes and dissolves every good or holy entity with which it makes contact.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 month ago

When the authorities lie about everything, when perfidy is the modus operandi then you get conspiratorial thinking. How could you not. When this perfidy reigns, then effectively chaos rules. In the 20th century Saturn (Kronos) ascended. Why? Well, the people that worship him took charge. Our Greco-Roman ancestors gave us the knowledge. Jupiter (Zeus) rebelled agains Saturn. Saturn was eating his children. Jupiter (Zeus) found the courage and the force of will to kill the tyrant. What were they killing? Chaos! Tyranny is a dysfunctional cause and amplifier of chaos. Incidentally, more proof that we are all the same people,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
1 month ago

Jupiter Optimus and His Son, the Logos of the heart!
I wouldst weep when I heard these words, I hear our fathers calling out to me.

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David Wright
Member
1 month ago

Increasingly Tucker Carlson does our side harm. Now it is multiple gunmen, alien visitors which he has changed to demons. Coming out of his sinecure at Fox has put him too far into Alex Jones territory. Maybe he will have Bigfoot on his next podcast and allay my worries.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Once could make a case that “Alex Jones territory” was always closer to the truth than Fox News

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

I always dismissed Alex Jones as a nutcase…then he stared batting in Ted Williams territory and I reconsidered.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

And that ain’t sayin’ much.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

I really like Carlson, but I used to cringe and change the channel when he started talking about aliens. With billions of cell phone cameras on the planet, it’s alway a grainy military camera that captures the images. I can’t imagine who would benefit from keeping the population scared enough to support outrageously large military budgets.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I’m pretty sure all the grainy UFO clips are just some poor insect that got trapped between the camera’s lens elements.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

If they’re talking about ufos in congress then it’s appropriate for Carlson to talk about them. But the camera thing is a real problem. Every ghetto rat walks around with a better camera than the military.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Why is it so hard to believe that with trillions of planets out there? We are nothing but one of God’s ant farms. (Alternatively, maybe this is heaven and everything else out there as hell as the Bible hints.) I was watching the documentary on the Varginha, Brazil alien crash called “Moment of Contact.” Not completely convinced after watching, but I have an open mind to it and it was interesting nonetheless. (It was on Tubi, not sure where it’s showing now.) But what really got me thinking was the interview with the movie producer James Fox. He wasn’t a… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

Well, just to start, the aliens would have to transcend the laws of physics as we know them, dodge numerous rock fields to get here, and then they crash on earth?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Maybe the “laws” of physics aren’t really complete. Maybe there’s more to them, like different dimensions.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

I don’t know about the multiple gunman but I am sure the FBI will eventually treat us to the lone wolf would be assassin explanation. I could be wrong but I very much doubt that this particular kid planned and executed this by himself.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  george 1
1 month ago

Only one thing is sure–whatever explanation the FBI puts on offer will be unadulterated bunkum.

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Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Alex Jones is the greatest performance artist of an age unworthy of his greatness.

Yesterday I watched someone I’d never heard of imitate Ethan Ralph by interviewing someone named Alex Jones who pulled off a perfect late-stage, pre-aneurysmal Alex Jones imitation: the man smoked and drank (vodka, right out of the bottle) while talking nonstop for an hour before spending the last ten minutes of his performance visibly not-vomiting.

Jeremy Proffit
Jeremy Proffit
1 month ago

No one believed Clint Eastwood either until he had to throw himself into the line of fire to save the President

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
1 month ago

So many good lines! “Fairy tales about elves with bags of natural rights are a way to replace God with a really good story….At the end of history, the last man is a guy wrapped in aluminum foil staring into a mirror.”

Spartan
Member
1 month ago

On their website, the FBI says “[t]he shooter was not known to the FBI prior to this incident.” Am I missing something?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Spartan
1 month ago

Translation: the FBI knew him intimately.

Spartan
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

This isn’t about the FBI’s credibility. It’s about how their public stance is characterized in the original post here. “The FBI rushing out to say he was just another lone wolf in their system, one that always seems to know about these guys before they commit a crime, also raises eyebrows.” Their public stance is the opposite of that, based on the post on the FBI website that I quoted from.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 month ago

I think I’ve got it now, cribbed from WRSA posts Two shooters, Crooks and Yearwick, both with long brown hair (similar appearance) Both executed (silenced) Crooks, the sacrificial target, on the visible rooftop, on the building the SWAT team were quartered inside (official sniper could’t fire until confirmed rooftop guy wasn’t SWAT) Yearwick, believing he was a “handler”, in a window or location behind him His bloodied head is displayed in a graphic closeup, but no surrounding crime scene (because he was not rooftop guy) 1/2 the SS team suddenly sent to go protect Dr. Jill’s presser, the D team… Read more »

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Son
Son
1 month ago

I’d like to note that you just commented in a recent article about how Thiel’s influence was akin to some sort of conspiracy theory. Now Vance, a former Thiel employee bank-rolled by him, is going to be VP. Your favorite technocrat Musk–also Thiel linked–is also backing Trump. Increasingly my conspiracy theories I share with others have predictive power, while yours remain light speculation that goes nowhere and appears to be designed to go nowhere like everything on the alt-media, aka appears to be little more than propaganda. Since the alt-media also increasingly appears to have always been a front to… Read more »

Son
Son
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Yes, you and Musk. No one could ever say you’re into him. You’ve never written in favor of what could be called “globalist conservatives.” I don’t recall you ever being seriously critical of Musk, Thiel, or Yarvin. Like with today’s article, there always feels like an angle. Today’s being to dismiss the underlining conspiracy talk in right-wing circles that events of the past few days feel very coincidental. How’s that bandaged ear doing with polling? People re-energized after you demoralized them on democracy for the past few years? Are you going to tell us that Trump will save us again… Read more »

Son
Son
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I’ve read you for a very long time and looked recently again. All light pieces made to look like criticism but which uphold the underlining viewpoint.

Don’t think I don’t notice you ignoring much of what I’m saying, I’ll assume because you’re conceding the main points while trying to evade.

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Son
1 month ago

In Zed’s defense, he has been very critical of Yarvin, however Moldbug’s so old-hat I’m surprised anyone talks about him.

Wasn’t that stuff relevant over a decade ago? Pre-Trump, even?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Son
1 month ago

I don’t remember you posting here before. Perhaps you should point such criticisms out to Z-man’s audience as they occur over time. We might be the better for it. However, I can’t put current criticisms into use as I can’t recall such details of past Z-man commentary.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Zman did buy an electric lawn mower so I guess that makes him a Musk acolyte.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Son
1 month ago

You’ve been out in the sun too long. Way too long.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Son
1 month ago

Judas priest, get real, man. We can only choose from the least of bad options, because all the options are bad. Of course you have neocons, neolibs, and neolibertarian technocrats. We all know it’s a trap at every turn; life has ever been a desperate set of tradeoffs.

Rpj
Rpj
1 month ago

Mr Z has written some truly great posts over the years.The above is surely one of your best. Bravo.

TempoNick
TempoNick
1 month ago

I’ll give you another argument why it’s not crazy to think that the assassination attempt might be a psyop: Jeffrey Epstein. Do you really believe the cameras were broken? Did you see the picture of Epstein on the gurney? It was all just too weird to be believable.

Just another in the long list of many things that have happened causing people like me to doubt things.

Falcone
Falcone
1 month ago

Im still wondering why there was no “tape delay” for a major live event

And why no one in the media has even mentioned it

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 month ago

Heh. Update! Big Country Expat:

“…I might start calling him, the ‘Bulletproof Felon’.
Teflon Don indeed.”

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

JD Vance: “Muh Inspirational Tale of White Trash Travails ™ and up by Muh Bootstraps.”
Big Country: “That’s not how we roll around here. Bootstraps are for tripping over. Hold my beer and this clacker while I ferret out the home-made flamethrower.”

Clayton Barnett
1 month ago

>which was long before the Central Intelligence Agency existed.

The Russians, in the form of the Cheka/NKVD used deception/maskirovka, esp in their operation called The Trust. Sydney Reilley of the SIS was called a conspiracy theorist in the 1920s by the British Foreign Office for doubting the Official Narrative.

trackback
1 month ago

[…] ZMan looks behind the curtain. […]

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
1 month ago

But its all part of The Plan™, regardless.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

Is that what Tattoo was trying to tell us!!

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

What is and isn’t part of the plan is open to debate. But there is a plan, make no mistake about that..

miforest
miforest
1 month ago

this is well worth the time, there is a lot here on why we are seeing the political and Social mess we are seeing .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegXefWvYDY

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  miforest
1 month ago

miforest, it’s The Federalist and Hillsdale College jumping on the “you’re all stupid sinners!” bandwagon. Should I watch this? What are they going to tell me, listen to Mark Levin and be saved?