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By now, everything that can be said about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump over the weekend has been said in every way that can be said. Thanks to cameras being everywhere all the time, most facts were known in real time. It did not take long for the internet to identify the shooter and then for the authorities and their media platforms to confirm the details. An iron rule of life is that it is better to be lucky than good and Trump is the living embodiment of it.
Of course, the same is true to a degree for the shooter. The official story will be that he was a loner, a victim of bullying, who just snapped. Just as the FBI swears every serial killer is a middle-aged white guy, they swear ever assassin is a loner. Regardless of his motivations, many things needed to fall into place for him to get on that roof and get a chance for the glory he was seeking. Ninety-nine percent of the time these guys are caught before they get out of the car.
Putting that aside, what matters right now is the politics of this event. Sensing that this was not good for their side, the regime rolled the dice and sent Biden out to “address the nation” from the Oval Office. Anytime they put him out for public view there is the risk he reminds the world that he is a desiccated husk. Even when he avoids looking like a nursing home patient, it is clear that it is taking all of his remaining energy to get out the words they have on the screen in front of him.
It is the habit of the regime to cry out in agony as they attack, but then that tactic fails, they go for a different version. They attack then call for peace before they think the other side has a chance to respond. For close to a decade they have been calling for the death of Trump and his supporters, but now all of a sudden, they think it is time to put aside our differences and come together as brothers. Note that there was no remorse in Biden’s call for unity over the weekend.
Imagine you are walking down the street, and a guy runs up and smacks you in the head, a thing common in coastal cities. Just as you are about to respond, he starts yelling, “why can’t we just get along bro?” Then a crowd forms up demanding that you accept the guy’s offer of peace and reconciliation. It is absurd, but it is how the progressive mind operates. These are people with no scruples and no self-awareness, so they are incapable of remorse.
It is a hollow gesture, and the regime will soon be back to anathematizing Trump and everyone associated with him. When they call Trump an “existential threat to their democracy” they mean it and they are correct. What they mean by “their democracy” is rule by the semi-permanent ruling class of credentialed experts and policy makers who hide behind the democratic process. If the voters back populist candidates like Trump, then the system loses its legitimacy.
It is not that Trump will usher in revolutionary change if elected. It has never been about that for the regime. They could have cut a good deal with him at any time. It is what Trump represents that terrifies them. What these people fear is a system whereby elected officials compete for public support and then have the power to pass laws they think are popular with the public. They hate this idea for the same reason they were scandalized by the overturning of the Chevron deference.
This is one reason why there will be no going back. This is the new normal and will remain so until one side destroys the other side utterly. We have been in a cold civil war, as John Derbyshire has called it, for a long time. The war has gotten hotter over the last decade and it got very hot over the weekend. It may cool down a bit over the next few weeks, but by the time the Democratic convention rolls around, Joe Biden will be threatening drone strikes on your town again.
Of course, demographic reality plays a role. Trump is symbolically the voice of white America right now. He may live the gangster lifestyle, but he will still only get ten percent of the black vote. Every major black celebrity will take turns calling him and his voters the usual scare words. On one side of the civil war is the ruling class white progressives, the Alawites of America, leading the nonwhite hordes that will soon be a majority, against the shrinking heritage America.
On the other hand, parts of that shrinking heritage America were radicalized when they saw Trump rise like El Cid from the stage floor. It was not so much that the scales fell from their eyes about what is happening, but that they were reminded of the basic truth of what it means to be an American. It is not the Bravo Sierra that comes from creepy weirdos like Ben Shapiro. What it means to be an American is when the bullets start flying, you run toward the shooter.
A Russian blogger got it right. “In the eyes of the US population, Trump will be promoted as the living embodiment of that very “American Dream” – a self-made billionaire, an American patriot, whom his enemies tried to kill for his love for his homeland, while being protected from all troubles by the Higher Powers.” For many in heritage America, Trump stopped being a politician on that stage and became a symbol around which they can rally against the forces of darkness.
That is when the battle is joined. Until now, the cold civil war has been a one-sided affair, because white people did not know there was a war. They told each other that the actions of the regime were for money or power. Now they are starting to sense it is about something else. The “existential threat” is not against “their democracy” but against heritage Americans. If the regime thinks killing Trump is funny, they will have no qualms about killing you and your family.
Assassinations are often triggering events. The most famous was the assassination of Archduke Frans Ferdinand. That kicked off the Great War. The assassination of Kennedy kicked off the cold civil war that still rages today. Perhaps in time the failed assassination of Trump will be seen as the turning point in the cold civil war, the point when the good guys finally figured out that they are under attack and begin to organize a resistance against the gathering darkness.
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I’m not sure if this got attention or not, but I thought it was awesome how the people behind Trump, on the stage, did not panic nor stampede. And when Trump was being moved out, and he gave the raised fist, they all started cheering. Nodobody knew how many people had been shot, or died. But they stood their ground and probably avoided many more injuries and deaths.
That was almost as impressive as Trump’s response.
It is the most important aspect. Likewise, and this is hard to see this close in time, those people are not afraid to be there in the first place, State-sponsored assassination attempt aside. The people there know full well this evil Regime may put them in the crosshairs as well.
Exactly why “Our Sacred Democracy” wants them to go fight their Russian ethnic kinsman in the Ukraine.
That’s a relevant observation, that the crowd didn’t panic. A panicked mob may even cause more deaths than some real or imagined threat, as recent experience with pilgrims at Mecca, not-so-recent attendees at a Who concert, or any number of other unfortunate incidents could attest.
But by then, many in the crowd already knew it was a setup that had barely failed…Crowd members saw the shooter climbing up to the roof with a rifle, and pointed that out to the Secret Service..ignored completely, which means the SS was in on it…Police snipers saw the shooter setting up, and were ordered not to shoot..Even after he started firing, ordered not to shoot..Finally, one of them, Jonathan Willis, killed the shooter anyway, and was promptly arrested, and subsequently fired…All this was posted on Telegram by Jonathan Willis…Trump was saved when he moved his head a millisecond before… Read more »
Where the hell do you get this (mis)information? Sigh….
I’ll happily bet you $20,000 that the 4chan post about that is fake
And if it isn’t?
What then, valiant ones?
Just because it might be, doesn’t mean it is. Nor does the situation painted require some immediate and drastic action on one’s part. Action upon misinformation is often a tactic of one’s opponent. Certainly action under misunderstanding of the situation bodes ill for success.
Think, evaluate, use your good senses. There is lots of FUD circulating by folks who profit from such.
Please explain why the fuck we are trying to defend the Secret Service here? Shitting on what might be one of /our guys/ first to give the regime the benefit of the doubt?
The Telegram account was reported first on Gateway Pundit, not exactly an obscure little amateur.
You know, the same SS that interfered like mad, breaking the evidence chain with JFK’s remains?
We’ve been “well, let’s not get carried away…” ever since. Bah, humbug!
You are supporting the post by Pyrrhus who said the police told the their sniper not to shoot the assassin? Not heard of that, but if so what does that mean? That the FBI knew of the assassin’s intent and allowed it to proceed, or that the FBI, or whoever, was not sure of who the person on the rooftop was—bad guy or good guy at the time? Then the shooting began and the bad guy was taken out. There are other assertions as well made. To assume all those assertions are true and to make the worse of them… Read more »
I’m not betting that kind of money, but I am skeptical.
It makes sense that the local police sniper was ordered not to fire first by the SS, as they might be worried that if they did start firing the SS might shoot the sniper while in an hysterical tizzy.
You would think the SS would (and definitely should) know where the local police snipers were stationed and therefore would not fire upon them. That is simply basic coordination. At the very least, the SS was grossly negligent in its pre-event preparation and coordination.
Marko: Excellent point. Because that crowd was WHITE, included lots of MEN, and lots of folks who grew up before social media turned all of society into a middle-school ‘mean girl’ cat fight. That area of Pennsylvania is composed of primarily heritage Americans and working class people. People accustomed to figuring out how things work and then keeping them working. The backbone of the teetering system of “White privilege” which includes hard work and being on time.
Trump’s response makes me think he might be worthy of them, after all.
And a lot of them started turning sound to the cameras to flip off the media, the regime, the people they (and we) know are responsible.
Liberals at the top are calling for “unity”, and Trump pointed out in an interview with the NY Post this weekend that this is difficult because the differences are ideological and policy-based. If you support men in dresses rubbing up on children at your local library, and I don’t, what is the unifying position? Of course there isn’t one. One person will win and one person will lose, and the winner will impose his position on the loser by force. For decades, the left has been the winner. They believe that they are on the “right side of history”, which… Read more »
The media’s most impressive ability is to make people stop knowing something. People who themselves participated in strategic primary party switching truly don’t believe that anyone has ever done that. There were no covid lockdowns, no vaccine mandates, no staged plague street theater from China, etc. That’s all nazi propaganda. Ask any Democrat. Ask Sailer (but I repeat myself). The other gunman in the news this week was Alec Baldwin. He’s not famous for acting. That was a long time ago. Until he killed that woman, he was best known for leaked voicemails of him screaming insanely and threatening violence… Read more »
This is an excellent observation and your conclusion is irrefutable. For me, it is almost terrifying. I have some family legal issues with a very elderly relative. I have been texting two of my siblings over the past two years about one particular aspect of it (I am handling it) asking for their cooperation and participation with me in handling it as a team. For two years, they did nothing but argue with me (over text messages) about how I was insane, that it wasn’t needed, I was overreacting, etc. (Oh, and these are both females.) Two weeks ago a… Read more »
People remember, even if they remember it vaguely as a ghost that haunts them. Or they just stay mum because they would like to forget. And damn, they almost have a point, because everything that has happened to the country is malicious and was done on purpose. That’s hard to accept.
All of these things you mentioned are like elephants in the room for the whole country. It’s causing everyone, young and old, anxiety to different degrees.
As to Alec Baldwin, the woman he shot was making a documentary on child trafficking in Ukraine.
(I say they knew his proclivities and set him up as a patsy with live ammo “accidentally” finding its way onto the set “to save a few pennies.” He may have thought he was firing blanks.)
There we go again with illogical conspiracy theory based upon a set of supposed facts with less probability as the easier explanation—gross negligence. So someone sets up AB with live ammo to kill women. 1) they assume he doesn’t check the weapon, 2) He fires the weapon (it is not defective as he claims) 3) He is so accurate as to shoot the poor lady in the head rather that miss. 4) The women hit, dies rather than lives (bullets always kill?) Just the way I’d plan a plot to get rid of a pesky documentary film producer. No way… Read more »
Ha! Touché, amigo. I’d actually always assumed he was guilty, scared, and too compromised to do anything but carry it out, but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.
It’s not a matter of touche or gotcha Alzaebo—we go back too far. It’s just a matter of it pains me you jump to these hasty conclusions now—when in past commentary you have been so spot on.
Did he vote in the primary? If so, does that mean he switched? Was he a registered Democrat before— 2 years ago, when he turned 18? Honest questions. When I think of 20 year olds, I don’t think consumed by politics, but I could be old.
The only thing that sticks out to me that I’ve read is that people say he got bullied in school. For all anybody knows, he wasn’t even politically motivated.
Yes, their idea of “unity” is much like their notion of “having a dialogue on race.” In the case of the latter what the really mean is that Leftists get to lecture and hector a captive white audience and in the end browbeat them into joining their anti-white crusade. Unity, indeed–the unity of the slave barracoon.
I read that Trump is scrapping a pre-planned speech and having it rewritten to emphasize national unity. That obviously won’t appease the lunatic Left, but it makes sense if he’s trying to appeal to normie and conservacuck pundits, who still naively believe that democracy is real.
Hopefully he understands that it’s not the Reagan era anymore. National unity is impossible in modern multicultural Woke America. Deep State power & raw tribalism trump the marketplace of ideas.
Whatever he says, it’s going to be the most watched convention speech in many, many years. Maybe ever.
He should title it “A Last Appeal to Reason”
Need to hear the rewrite, but it’s a good move. The Lefties will never join Trump, but the “Conservative” never Trumpers may move toward him a bit if they feel he’s less of a reincarnation of Hitler.
Not going to be easy, but they have become so extreme with the men in dresses and transing kids etc. that not very many people support that madness. Especially if they have kids. Maybe the most extreme will just naturally burn itself off…they do seem to be on a trajectory of pushing hard and then exhausting, sorta like Joe.
Trump’s political or leadership instincts are amazing. Any regular politicians would have let himself get hauled away like a sack of meat. Trump stopping them to shake a fist was pure spur of the moment brilliance.
Gotta admit it–he’s really quite a man, despite being unable to evolve beyond Homo grillerectus.
Upvoted for “Homo Grillerectus.” I needed a laff.
He thought he could be dying probably, he just knows he’s shot and by God if he had one breath left he was gonna let everyone left behind know his last message to them, to keep fighting, fight like he has fought.
Possible. One of the things one encounters with those traumatically shot is they are often “dead, but don’t know it”. Lots of damage can be done in the few minutes they have to bleed out but feel no pain. This is one reason cops keep shooting the suspect until basically they run out of ammo. “Anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice”, is a crude but somewhat accurate phrasing in the milieu.
It showed that he has uncanny presence of mind; half an ear torn off yet the man sensed an opportunity and took it, and look at the result: a historic photograph and, well, what Limbaugh used to call an “energized base” is as energized as never before.
I see MSNBC pulled Morning Joe from its lineup today. The point of the show the last eight years has been to work liberals into lather about Trump. I don’t think either host is capable of self restraint, so it will be interesting to see if and when they bring it back. Few media lefties have been able to completely restrain themselves, David Frum wrote something that should get him deported back to Canada. Also worth watching is what happens to the Secret Service and if Trump keeps using them the rest of the campaign. The women serving in his… Read more »
Someone on Twitter made the point that the Navy has a sub filled with misfit sailors. The sub never does anything useful. Years ago it was revealed that NYCV has a “rubber room” for misfit teachers. Instead of firing them, they put the teachers in this building where they do nothing all day, but get paid. I once knew a woman who worked at the IRS. She was near retirement, so they put her at a desk where she spent her time with the others close to retirement, doing nothing. My sense is the SS handles their dead weight the… Read more »
Economists are mystified over the low productivity of the US economy over the last thirty or so years despite the tech advances. I think this exactly explains it in a nutshell. It can’t overcome the deadweight/diversity which burdens the entire economy top to bottom.
As I’ve noted before, such are barnacles on the ship. We need some dry dock time—and soon.
Perhaps it’s not that high tech can’t overcome them but that it enables them, even makes their existence possible.
We’re talking about human societies. Either the humans go away and they become tech societies, or we go back to being human, with all of the unpleasant, non-ideal things that entails.
Mystified over the low productivity? Funny, but every time I read something new about the US economy, they are always bragging about how much more productive we are.
They equate productivity with job loss. We ship our production off shore. We have more goods, but less (American) labor involved. But I’ll let Citizen provide the final answer here.
I listened to a X Spaces this weekend where someone with experience on this said that they have major turnover problems, SS isn’t a very good job (boring work, lots of travel, etc.), and anybody even remotely competent transfers to the FBI as soon as possible. Of course this is not something that the feds want you to know about, but more proof of the competency crisis.
Did a project for a utility company that put all it’s misfits they couldn’t fire because of union rules into a room. Everyone called it “The Departure Lounge”.
Some of them played games, read books, twiddled their thumbs. Some actually came up with ideas for the company and made themselves useful.
Japanese businesses were known for a similar practice, where some were shunted off to a room to do nothing all day. In that New York case and other districts, look closer at the Teacher’s Union that makes it far harder to get rid of incompetent or harmful teachers. In addition to the rubber room, they also practice the Dance of the Lemons. The classic example is of a principal who should’ve been fired but was reassigned to another school to continue the mis- and mal-education. Now you can appreciate yet another reason why they resist the vouchers, and rail at… Read more »
In NYC and LA, they don’t even fire teachers who sexually abuse children..the Union won’t let them..At our high school, in a wealthy suburb, a tenured teacher who merely wrote letters to a female student was summarily dismissed, and the Union didn’t dare to utter a peep..
“Japanese businesses were known for a similar practice, where some were shunted off to a room to do nothing all day.”
I forget the term, but 1980s bubble-era Japan had a backroom slur for these types which referred to a woman’s urine tract when she was menstruating (as in something is only half-useful and even that much is discarded). Supposedly it came from the yakuza, which…even for gutter terminology is pretty raunchy.
Milton, in Office Space. Only he was still getting paid due to a glitch in the system.
The easiest way to deal with a troublemaker is to transfer him, her, or xer to another department. I’ve experienced this first-hand in the military 😎 This is even a background theme in popular culture. Does anyone remember the scene in Dances with Wolves where Lt. Dunbar arrives at the frontier output and meets the commandant who’s wearing a dress? Slightly more seriously: Bad image from any angle for the Secret Service here, no doubt. Overlooking, reportedly, a 20-foot ladder, a figure with a rifle atop a nearby building and one reported to police well before the event, seems a… Read more »
The older brother worked as a prison doctor. The new warden was a radicalized female, who had been shuffled out of three other managerial positions in other departments. She had all kinds of great ideas and new programs to try.
Of course my older bro didn’t last much beyond the probationary period, neither did 90% of the staff. The cross-lateral turnover even in state agencies is just insane.
To me the ladder is even more mysterious than all the other supposed coincidences. Are we supposed to believe the kid himself brought the ladder? That would mean he managed to get it into position without anyone saying anything. Of course there have been a few legitimate investigative journalists who have worn a safety vest and brought a ladder or some power tools to a supposedly secure location and just walked right past security without being challenged. Is that possibly what happened here? If I were in charge of looking into this, I would prioritize analyzing photos from the site… Read more »
Twitter says there was a local swat team assigned to the roof, but it got too hot so they went looking for shade. They left the ladder in place.
They don’t make SWAT teams like they used to…
That actually sounds less plausible than the kid bringing the ladder. Then again with so many xirlcops in law enforcement these days perhaps they just decided that their makeup would run in the heat if they went up there.
I wonder if John Kirby commanded that misfit sailor sub?
The fumbling of the xirlcop agents near the car made me start hearing the Yakety Sax music from Benny Hill. We all live in a misfit submarine it seems.
What we saw in real time is how adding dead-weight isn’t just useless, but dangerous. Watching those three women messing with their glasses, being unable to put their gun back in the holster, and getting in the way of men who knew what they were doing showed that.
Add enough clowns, and you’re going to drastically reduce the capability of the competent members. I’m still on “Team Incompetence” as opposed to “Team Malice” on this, but an unsecured roof that close to Trump makes me wonder if there wasn’t someone on the inside giving a tip.
Certainly the incompetence is a factor with the Secret Service. The question that will never be answered is if they assigned him bad agents intentionally, hoping they would get Trump killed. Obviously the diversity push brings down quality overall. The biggest question is what caused the shooter to act. He is really young to feel this hopeless and radicalized. I don’t think we will ever have good answers on that question.
How unfortunate that the suspect was killed before he could be interrogated, stand trial, etc.
Unfortunate, yes. But for many people, I suspect, also very convenient. Shades of Lee Harvey Oswald.
They did exactly that, but the SS lead undoubtedly knew that it was a setup to kill Trump…
Introduce yourself to the next generation. 20 year olds have gone through Covid, the insanity of education in the 2010s, and phones pushed in their faces from age 6 or 7 onward. We are older and think of “20” the way we experienced being 20. That was a different world. It is gone. These children were used as lab rats in dozens of ways. We are in serious trouble because many of them are like this. They will be useless for the entirety of their lives, absorbing the energies of the rest of us, destroying what we create, sapping our… Read more »
It’s sad and messed up what they have done to the kids in their efforts to ‘get Trump’. They don’t care, they don’t even give it one thought. Not one! Makes me mad as hell.
Those born after 9/11 have known nothing but war, all their lives.
“The question that will never be answered is if they assigned him bad agents intentionally, hoping they would get Trump killed.”
Correct. And if the true answer is in the affirmative, then what we witnessed was a combination of incompetence and malice.
At least 4 ridiculous she-agents scurrying around, an unguarded rooftop with direct line of sight to stage, and cops playing dumb for 5 minutes while onlookers point and tell them, “there’s a guy climbing the roof with a gun!”
It’s all so tiresome.
Since he was 12 years old he’s been told Trump is Hitler. Then the Covid lockdowns probably really drilled it into his head 24/7 and no real world experience as he couldn’t go outside for years. And his father is therapist supposedly and if that’s true he probably put him on psych drugs. Maybe even some hormones. So, when it started looking like Trump was going to win, he wanted to stop Hitler.
What else is there to understand?
What else is there to understand?
That he could have possessed, on God’s Greenacre, any reasonable expectation he could succeed in finding an unpoliced perch from which to get off even a single shot. He may have operated under the influence of drugs or delusions of grandeur but it’s complicated and not fully disclosed HTF he found a ladder and scampered over a hot tin roof to position his weapon and nearly kill the President through iron sights from 1.5 football fields away under stress. It’s curious, to say the least.
Nowadays if someone is attracted to the idea of being a therapist, there’s a very high probability that they themselves are mentally ill and in need of help. Say what you want about Freud and the other early psychotherapists. They may have been unscientific quacks but they were at least intelligent men making a sincere effort at finding out how the mind works. Today’s therapist is generally an uncurious and neurotic xirl with a bachelor’s in “studies” and then a master’s in therapy when she gets tired of working at Starbucks. Even the few males left in the field are… Read more »
If they’re that incompetent they could easily be bribed or cajoled into giving away info. But I think the shooter was more likely groomed by a faction with plausible deniability. Someone deliberately deployed forces away from the building so as to give him a shot. Gotta be an inside job.
There’s no deniability left…They ignored an armed man climbing onto a roof…and we know the snipers were ordered not to fire, and let assassin fire at least 8 rounds…
How do we know the snipers were ordered not to fire?
Why not both incompetence and malice? There is certainly room for that.
Incompetence makes it easier for malice to operate.
And malice institutionalized incompetence. There’s no tautology either way.
That non-tautology makes “so their vision of unity is, really, everyone becoming a liberal” a really frightening prospect.
I’m settling on Team Both. Subcompetent mediocrities tend to be nasty, because they know how easily they should be overcome.
Yes, “woman power” sounds good to these idiots, but as Israel found out, it’s a disaster on the battlefield..Many of them just hide, as the SS woman next to Trump tried to do…
Now expand that out to the military. Just imagine how bad it is there. If we go to war with Russia, China and probably Iran, we lose.
And that would be a goll-durned shame…
American white war brides with Russian husbands? Even a Han or Persian wouldn’t be a complete disaster. The White race may yet be saved, to a degree.
I have no training or expertise in executive protection but I saw the arial photo of the rally site. If someone told me that you could only secure one part of the grounds outside of the main stage area it would have been the roof of the building where the shooter was. i can’t see any way that the SS made a “mistake”.
They let the local LE take those positions but they allegedly told them they couldn’t fire first and probably told them if they see something to ask them first before they can take out an assassin. The police snipers were probably terrified the nervous nellies of the SS would shoot them if they shot first.
“…the nervous nellies of the SS would shoot them if they shot first.”
A bit hair-raising, because that strikes me as true. Shades of the Waco Four (Clinton’s Arkansas praetorians)…somebody yelling, “Gun! Gun!” and a hail of friendly fire hitting the crowd.
Hannibal Option anytime soon?
“…an unsecured roof that close to Trump makes me wonder if there wasn’t someone on the inside giving a tip.” There’s simply no other explanation. Certainly there is incompetence in every government agency, but what is the sheer probability that some random, 20-year old KID, who is by all accounts a loser and a dweeb and not a marksman, would find the ONLY place where he was able to shoot Trump.. and it JUST SO HAPPENED that it wasn’t secure? The explanation is not “Aw, shit, Fred, we sure fucked that one up” as if they backed a bulldozer into… Read more »
“Unfortunately it’s probably the case that the very same people who told him where the ladder and the unsecured roof was are the ones doing the “investigation”…”
Yeah, and the ones who shot him, too.
Those women may be the first place you ought to look. From the new first female Secretary of Secret Service: “During a CBS News interview in May 2023, Cheatle stated the Secret Service, which had a 48% departure rate, needed to “attract diverse candidates and give opportunities to everybody in the workforce, particularly women.” She said she aims to have 30% women in the agency by 2030.[12]” That 48% departure rate isn’t a failure. It is stage one of success. Get rid of white men and install women, then illegal alien invaders trannies and POCs. Then, when you have completed that phase,… Read more »
Above from the Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Cheatle
That’s one “thin” wiki page.
Funny how there is no early life portion.
(Is it just me, or does she resemble a certain individual who recently left the State Department? Her evil twin?)
Who was that that left Bartleby? If the EL&E section didn’t reveal another Every Single Time, you can be sure that somewhere lurks the ADL. This thing is highly organized. They can if they want choose nincompoops to execute at the head level. But, how hard is it to take orders that say, ‘These are some things that will “nudge” these white men to leave the service. Diversity is our strength. What is your plan to hire more women and POCs? Okay good. Look, we have an extensive support system for you that is ready made. We can get you… Read more »
Her experience is being head of security for a corporation? smh.
Her picture brings up a blip on my gaydar
They can hire all the protected classes they want. But mandate the new hires fly for their training aboard Boeing aircraft. Turn the incompetents against one another and wait. Hand out the Darwin Awards liberally.
The punditry will do no such thing. Secretly, the vast majority of them are seething with disappointment that the assassin failed.
I was referring to the, “conservative” punditry. I watched a bit of Meg Kelley just to take the temperature there. It is getting closer to this side of the divide. It is a matter of time.
Or they can be put at Rehoboth beach to watch Joe swim naked or creepily grin and whisper at them from the hot tub, since he probably can’t swim in the big boy pool anymore.
I have often said that most of what our side does is vent to relieve pressure. Nothing matters until the shooting starts. There is no reforming the system or saving America. Discourse is all a pointless exercise. You are dealing with deranged, unhinged, purely rotten people that we call the left. However much you think you hate these people it is not enough. Anything less than the permanent removal of these scum bags from society isn’t worth a single breath. They hate you and want you dead and they will do whatever it takes to accomplish that. Maybe now Normie… Read more »
“Maybe now Normie G. Civnat will realize this. Maybe….”
You have way too much faith.
I didn’t say I had faith in this. I just suggested that it is remotely possible…
That was the joke. Even remotely possible is far too optimistic.
I really hate saying this, but I’m actually a little numb to all this at this point. They’ve tried to bankrupt him through the courts. They’ve imprisoned his friends and associates and gone after his family. And in just these last few months, they’ve attempted to imprison him in hopes that some Riker’s Island inmate would be allowed to get close enough to shank him. Having some left-wing loon taking a shot at him just seems like business as usual at this point. As an aside, I work near a Biden campaign outpost and had to walk through a police… Read more »
“Having some left-wing loon taking a shot at him just seems like business as usual at this point.” I didn’t even realize how desensitized I was until my friend called me & the first thing he said was “did you hear!?” & I responded “hear what?” & upon being told Trump was shot I said “ohhh yeah, I heard about that.” He thought I was messing with him because I wasn’t shocked or amped up about it. I was more shocked at the ridiculous display of incompetence put on by the secret service (fumbling to reholster a gun like it… Read more »
Yes. The only surprising thing about this whole incident, from my standpoint, is how unsurprised I am.
Different for me. I’m saddened at heart, yet always have put up a “good front” in this group. But for all the bluster am a softy at heart for this latest decline in our society.
I hear ya’, bud. But the Power Structure has, by every waking moment, been attempting to destroy and expel Trump from the moment he was elected. I don’t see how anybody who’s alive to that fact could think they would scruple at trying to kill the man. I pretty much felt an assassination attempt was just a matter of time. And I’m very pleased it failed.
Trump gets shot and Biden puts up the fences for the unarmed Jan 6th protestors that he’s sure are coming to get him, forgetting that he put them all in jail already, shaking with fright in a demented stupor in the WH.
Trump’s luck is astounding. All the shooter had to do was aim for his chest & that would’ve been it for him. I’m utterly puzzled why he doesn’t have private security, he of all people could afford to hire a private military company to protect him & they would do a far better job than the secret service which is now evidently diverse. Those SS women around him aren’t anywhere near as tall as Trump, you’d think they at least hire amazon women who could actually properly shield the guy. Those two women hovering around his vehicle looked like deer… Read more »
I understand Trump wears body armor. And it’s easy to get the idea that the shooter knew that.
Doubtful Trump has a steel chest plate. Most everything else is useless against a rifle rounds.
My level iv are ceramic. They are lighter in weight than steel and certified against rounds of the caliber employed by the shooter across multiple hits. My plate carrier wouldn’t have helped Trump against a torso shot though given the angle involved. It would have missed the plates and, as you point out out, the thinner side armor is ineffective against high velocity rifle rounds. I am convinced Trump was saved by Divine Intervention and the attack and clusterfucks were real and possibly deliberate. A dude with a distinct AR pattern rifle could not have made it up onto that… Read more »
Yes, should have mentioned ceramic, however was thinking thickness of plate rather than composition. You’d notice a plate easily on Trump if he wore one. Side shot is the key here. He really had no protection from the angle of attack as you’ve astutely noted.
I’m probably over analyzing & I didn’t make it clear in my post but I was wondering why he didn’t go for his upper chest, worst case scenario he hits armor & even that still has a chance of splattering right into his face if it’s hard armor. If it’s soft ceramic armor then at the minimum there’s going to be severe blunt trauma to the upper chest.
I’m just thinking if I really wanted to be absolutely sure but then again I wouldn’t use an AR to do it. In hindsight I’m going way too autistic on this lol.
From only 130 yards, anyone with a few minutes of training could make the headshot 90% of the time. So not much need to worry about body armor.
One and one-third football fields away to hit an object smaller than a basketball (and much the same color) doesn’t strike me as an easy shot.
Agreed. It’s not an easy shot.
Yeah I dunno about 90%. I might say 50%. Maybe. Then factor in the stress of this particular situation vs the gun range
It is though.
I can get women that have never fired a gun to hit that within a few minutes of training at a range.
I’m not that sure. I can hit a 5 inch plate bench rest at 3–400 yard pretty steady. Prone, without a rest, not so much. Easy to move around with only arm support and breath control is essential. Scared shitless because you know you’ll be dead in 60 seconds? Yeah, it’s easy….not. Actually, if I’d have taken the shot, I’d lock into a sitting position and be my own bench rest. I think this guy was just plain lucky on his first shot. Note, no SS personnel were hit and that was a pretty big cluster around Trump, but I’ve… Read more »
Well, the shooter could have been shooting for the center of mass. A foot or so high, is not improbably for a less than proficient “marksmen” especially if only using iron sights. Body armor from the side won’t help with steel core 5.56 ammo, readily available.
Trump was lucky. We’ll never know if the guy pulled the shot and missed by 2 inches or 8. Crazy how close security let him get. If he had brought a .30 cal hunting rifle with a scope, Trump would be dead.
Yep, and a bolt action really was the weapon of choice here. You get only *one* shot in these situations.
“Gun was bought used by (step-?)father six months before”
(work in the obvious ‘gun show’ canard)
“$12,000 gun suddenly aquired by 20 y.o. Antifa autist”
“web account and video screenshotted before scrubbed”
Whew lads
That’s true, I’m projecting a lot of details of how I would’ve handled it. A lot of plate carriers have slots on the side for plates & those soft ceramic armors are armored all the way around even the sides. Still that doesn’t cover the arm/shoulder, the steel core of a green tip round could definitely pass through to the chest cavity if it didn’t hit bone. A 308 black tip & probably just a regular fmj would make it but thankfully the shooter didn’t employ any of these strategies. Kind of surprised he didn’t actually now that I think… Read more »
Yeah, but the kid was 20 yo. He had to “steal” the rifle from dad. (If reports are to be believed). His proficiency might be amateurish. Many ranges available are *not* longer than 100 yards or so. Intermediate distances and prone shooting not available, etc.
question-where in the world did a gomer like that kid get any shooting range training, he looks like he couldn’t find the safety by himself?
I remember a few year ago, when Antifa was wreaking havoc, people were saying that they were no longer just LARPing college kids. They were getting actual training in terror tactics, maybe even at “summer camp”-style sessions. Meaning, they couldn’t be airily dismissed as hapless fools who were no threat. Even their street battles back then showed signs of organization: piles of bricks deposited ahead of time, bicycles stashed nearby for quick getaway to elude vehicle pursuit. Maybe this little crapweasel had some training before the big event.
They clearly had help from authorities – cops ordered to look the other way (remember that empty cop car placed in the middle of the street in CA that got petrol bombed by antifa during a protest? How did that get there?), or even act as agent provocateurs (masked guy who broke the first shop window to escalate Minneapolis riots turned out to be a cop). Antifa seem to have handlers in the police or intelligence agencies, maybe DNC/Clintons? 2020 color revolution was way too coordinated. So whoever the shooter was (Crook? Yearick?) he was likely a product of that… Read more »
“His proficiency might be amateurish” I think we can safely say everything he did was amateurish in regards to the shooting itself. If he really wanted to be absolutely 110% sure there was a litany of things he could’ve did to exponentially increase his odds of success. He could’ve spent a lot of money to get top tier equipment to make that shot ridiculously easy at that distance, which was very very close, so long as he could hold still long enough to let the gear do the heavy lifting. He wouldn’t even need to sight in at anything past… Read more »
Yes, but how much advance planning would your scenario require? With a very good weapon, and if he practised assiduously for 6 months, I’m sure the end result would have been better. It’s just my own theory, but I don’t think this attack was planned very far in advance. He might have been fantasizing about it, but I think it was Biden’s catastrophic debate with Trump that galvanized this guy into action. At that point, the realization that Trump was in a much stronger position, with a chance of overpowering the doddering Biden, might have pushed him over the edge.… Read more »
“I don’t think this attack was planned very far in advance”
I’m inclined to agree, doesn’t really disprove my claim that it was a half assed attempt.
Take that ulvade shooter, he spared no expense, if he was the assassin I’m positive we’d be talking about Trump in the past tense right now.
If Trump did do that, did call for a MAGA household guard, that would be the beginning.
The beginning of the American Army.
Hmm.
https://x.com/L0m3z/status/1812569290471772462
Sounds like a neo-Praetorian Guard to me.
If this kid was really acting alone, then shooting for the head was what his video game “training” led him to do.
Everyone discussing this assumes this is just a step further for Trump ascendancy and we move on to the next whatever. There are probably going to be more serious attempts and I don’t like the odds.
Heck, imagine a “secure” future as now exists in airports. A future where no candidate is ever seen directly by the public, but rather addresses their audience from protected rooms with cameras for security “purposes”. Now imagine such a society with “deep fake” technology. Sounds like a Rod Serling intro to the “Twilight Zone” doesn’t it?
Reminds me of the movie “Equilibrium”.
Everyone on mandated SSRI’s. Constant barrage of propaganda. A televised image of the dear leader that was completely fake.
On the plus side: “Gun-Kata”. Bonus: Sean Bean doing what he does best – dying in the movie.
His plane will crash…
into a summer camp filled with little urban acheivers.
Yep. They are not going to stop now. With each passing week they will become more desperate to take Trump out or at least intimidate him into bowing out of the race. If Trump continues–and I imagine he will–he will display the courage of a lion.
God willing.
We could sure use the Big Man as an ally. But it is said he helps those who help themselves.
When a rat gets backed into a corner, it gets more vicious. These are not normal people were dealing with. There will probably more attempts at Trump and the voter fraud will be like nothing seen before on this planet.
To revise a few cliches to fit the lib/Dem fundamentalist:
If you can’t beat ’em…kill ’em. If you can’t kill him…try, try, again. When all else fails, read the instructions…& stuff the ballot box.
Exactly what I’ve been saying to people on the voter fraud part. The same people that think there was funny business in 2020 are saying, “This put the election in the bag for Trump. It’s a lock!” Really? You think they’re all of a sudden going to stop doing that stuff? You think republicans are all of a sudden going to grow a backbone and effectively fight it?
I have some lefties as relatives. I honestly don’t know these people anymore, they weren’t the people I grew up with. It’s as if they’re in some sort of cult. Joe Rogan said something similar, that these people were like the Manson cult. Who did Manson prey upon? The weak and wounded. It’s scary to think what these people will do to please their cult masters.
Trump’s reaction was perfect. Any other GOP candidate would have soiled in their pants. For all of Trump’s flaws, he is one thing the GOP sissies are not, a man.
Yeah. Compare Trump to the bed-wetting cowards trembling under their desks during the so-called J6 “insurrection.” Trump’s response represents America, the latter’s emblematize AINO.
To be fair they may have been cowering because that same crazed man who shot Ashli Babbit came in there waving his gun in the air looking insane.
Ah, yes. The crazed loon who later got a standing O from congress. Disgusting.
I don’t subscribe to the Atlantic but I ran across a freebie last night. It was an editorial by cheese-pope David Frum. Go read it if you have a strong stomach. He says that Trump deserved what he got by calling for violence over the last eight years. He actually says this. He says that Trump has taken over the Republican party (for no reason at all in his mind, giving no context.) People are saying that the attempted assassination was a set-up. I think this is exactly right. By the continual calls for violence against Trump, which they will… Read more »
Exactly. The Evil Regime may murder the man yet, but that image is not going away. Symbols often matter more than people.
It’s like the picture of the guy in front of the tank at Tienamen Square. It didn’t end well for him, but he’s immortal as a symbol of humanity facing down tyranny. What’s more, that image can’t be interpreted any other way. Not even the Chinese government tried to convince people that this was REALLY an example of a mentally ill man fighting the kindly people who were trying to help him.
It’s like the picture of the guy in front of the tank at Tienamen Square. The Tiananmen Square massacre was fake, so… I’d really REALLY have liked to see a closeup of Trump’s ear because in the existing footage, it doesn’t look like it’s been pierced by a bullet, and both his shirt and the hair right at the top of his ear, are unblemished by blood. After being crushed in the SS scrum like that, it should’ve been all over him. In fact, I have no sure way of even knowing if Butler, PA is real. Never heard of… Read more »
I’ve not seen what you describe, but a weaving barrel would be consistent with finding a target using a high power scope. Indeed, I usually have to lower the power to 3-6 to locate, then turn the power up to max of 18 or so to acquire precision. Then comes the breathing regime. What folks don’t realize is that a quick shot from a sniper is a myth. What you see in the movies is either simply fake, or after a considerable amount of acquisition/aiming time. And we’ve not even spoken about windage adjustment.
Thanks. The footage is the bit where people say the two SS snipers are aiming straight for the assassin, waiting for him to take his shot.
Then: pew-pew-pew, and his barrel starts weaving and bobbing.
As I noted above, The snipers might have waited until confirmation of the target. They don’t know at the time the intent, nor who the person who is aiming the rifle is. It’s not their job to keep track of all the LEO’s on the scene. That indeed might bear in judging the incident command on the scene. But I don’t blame the LEO snipers at this point.
Yes, I’m not wondering about whether they’re standing down or waiting for the shooter or whatnot, only the seemingly erratic movements of the barrel, right as you hear the return volley.
I assume the guy didn’t just spray them around in a panic, or we’d have heard about it by now, what with all the talk about an SS competency crisis, but it doesn’t look like any shooting video I’ve seen, neither in movies or documentaries.
Maybe it was the prone guy doing the shooting, it’s a bit hard to see.
The assassin sprayed about 6-8 shots as I counted in a very quick time. When one does such quick shots, your technique is essential. If you hold your weapon poorly, your rifle will not settle down back on target (more or less) after recoil. This means you need to reacquire the target all over again and that takes time. The temptation is to squeeze the trigger when not quite on target, hence miss. Wash rise repeat and you get lots of quick misses. Hitting bystanders does not count. Again, go to doubt that this guy had knowledge of requisite skills… Read more »
Too many coincidences. And shooter conveniently dead.
We’ll all have time to recalibrate our positions on this, but in this case — and at this very moment, I’m watching a YouTube interview by Larry Johnson with former FBI sniper Chris Whitcomb — higher-level involvement at the very moment the events were unfolding looks likely, then I’ll swing to your position. If there was such higher-level involvement then they will attempt a cover-up. That will tell us 100% what happened. And I don’t for a minute say that couldn’t have happened.
I am SO not waiting for the expert opinion or the reasonable explanation.
This is as obvious as the goddam nose on my face.
Well, if you’re Thai, that may not be very obvious…
I’m not waiting for the “expert opinion on the reasonable explanation” either. I’m waiting for the “expert” opinion on the “reasonable” explanation to see what not to believe.
They attack then call for peace before they think the other side has a chance to respond. For close to a decade they have been calling for the death of Trump and his supporters, but now all of a sudden, they think it is time to put aside our differences and come together as brothers. Note that there was no remorse in Biden’s call for unity over the weekend. Interestingly, this is exactly the same script they followed with the failed assassination of Slovak populist PM Robert Fico. First they called for his head, then he was shot and they… Read more »
As noted here several times, “it’s all fake and gay”. Not a one (Leftist/liberal) believes what they say wrt peace and reconciliation. If you can make the statements I’ve heard now and in the past—even once—you are beyond “redemption”. You are simply an “evil” and must be destroyed before we can move on in life. What form that destruction must take perhaps varies, but there is not going to be settlement via handshake and a pledge to be better persons in the future.
You are exactly correct. I won’t link him or mention him by name, but one prominent online shitlib was gloating over the poor man who died, outright laughing and mocking him, claiming that since he was a Trump supporter, he obviously supported the “insurrection”, Putin, and all the rest. Because of this, he deserved to die. This is what these people actually believe. They hate you and want you dead, they hate you with every fiber of their being, they don’t value life, they don’t value their fellow man, they don’t seek out the Good/Beautiful/True, they have adopted the Deuteronomy… Read more »
“They hate you and want you dead,…”
That’s a good interpretation. I’m a somewhat unrepentant Freudian. They hate themselves as far as I’m concerned.
However, point I try to make is *not* to hate them back. Such hate makes you reckless and less effective and physically less able. Sublimate your hate into absolute resolve. You’ll then know what to do when the time comes. You don’t need to hate cows to work in a slaughter house.
Deuteronomy worldview as in chapter 20:10-18?
Yes, that about sums it up—but was not in my immediate thoughts. You get credit for you biblical knowledge.
back in Exodus – thou shalt not lie, so tbh – was close to chapter / verses but had to look it up to be sure.
It’s infuriating, but not as infuriating as this:
If Trump is somehow elected and wants to get anything done, he’s going to need allies. That means reaching across the aisle. It means compromising with most of the RINO’s in his own party.
They’ll be no mandate for this guy. Even if the R’s swept everything, they wouldn’t know what to do with it. We’ve seen this happen before.
What does Team R even want? They just want power and sinecures, there is no grand vision.
Trump seems incapable of finding true allies or even reliable advisors and assistants. Ivanka and Jared were the best he could find during his first term. That’s quite devastating.
Trump had outspoken leader Col. Douglas MacGregor as a military advisor. He should vet and then enlist MacGregor on his highest circle of advisors. MacGregor himself should be President, he can manage the crises sure to come.
MacGregor should be the Sec of Defense. He would have more cred’s than any in memory.
I was hoping for Eric Prince in that job but maybe he’d have more fun heading Homeland Security. And Christopher Rufo to dismantle the Dept of Education. And…..well, there’s no perfection of course but no lack of exciting possibilities.
He could eliminate the FBI with a single signature, as it was created with an executive order. Of course he won’t.
Doubtless, John Roberts would come up with a reason to say he can’t do that
Over the weekend, I went from lean stay home to lean Trump (which really doesn’t matter either way in my solid color state), and it was primarily because of the fist pump. Which demonstrated authenticity and genuine spirit, things sorely lacking in our professional political class. However silly/lazy/misguided/coopted he may be, it showed that he cares. These days, the bar is just that low. If the Democrats are going to scale back their Evil Fascist End of Democracy Orange Man strategy, then what platform do they have? That was pretty much their whole campaign. It’s either that or concede defeat.… Read more »
They realized they were falling so far behind that the number of fake ballots required would have been too obvious, and lawfare didn’t work, so they were left with only one option.
If Trump survives till the election, I think he’s earned our vote. And I say that as a hardcore abstainer. It won’t do us any good, of course, but giving him support might do Trump a bit of good from a personal standpoint.
Yep. Trump’s worth one more foray “into the breach”.
This event will highlight another feature of the managerial state often cited by the Zman, which is the lack of accountability of key actors. In a sane world, the director of the Secret Service would have fired the team responsible for Trump’s security and announced her resignation by now. Alas, in our world there will be no accountability.
They held a press conference yesterday in Milwaukee. The female head of the local Secret Cervix team for the convention — who thinks she’s a young Kate Winslet — displayed nothing but brazen contempt and arrogance for the questions from the media. Most of her sentences began with “Soooo…” followed by a passive-aggressive non-response to the substance of the question. No shame. None.
They must all be removed from their offices. They will not change. These are people in their 30s and 40s. Out with them. The whole order must be oveturned.
“They must all be removed from their offices. They will not change. These are people in their 30s and 40s. Out with them. The whole order must be overturned.” We need to return/become a “shame culture”. Seems most no one is ashamed of their failures and seeks always to blame others and defer responsibility—whether correct or incorrect in such assumption. There is no “the buck stops here” thinking anymore. A few years back, there was a tragedy in South Korea where a ferry taking a HS class on an overnight trip capsized, killing the students aboard. The captain of the… Read more »
We used to be a guilt culture, but those days are long past since we abandoned God. It would be an improvement now to become a shame culture. We went straight from guilt to shameless.
In 1066 at the battle of Hastings the english were winning. then their king was struck in the eye by an arrow and the tide turned and the course of history was changed. this time Trump turned his head slightly to look at a giant video screen showing a chart of illegal immigration and thus the bullet missed by a hair…and likely the course of history was changed. And we know what happened when the Archduke Ferdinand decided to take the long way home. July 13 definitely looks like an inflection point to me.
Until now, the cold civil war has been a one-sided affair, because white people did not know there was a war. They told each other that the actions of the regime were for money or power. Now they are starting to sense it is about something else. The “existential threat” is not against “their democracy” but against heritage Americans. If the regime thinks killing Trump is funny, they will have no qualms about killing you and your family. Exactly. To add to Sun Tzu, first you have to know you even have an enemy. Those of us who are outliers… Read more »
That’s a very good point about how military and police recruitment for white males has plummeted, and how big of a deal that is in regards to the tide turning.
Thanks. I had thought Trump was being lined up to be the Judas Goat to get young white males from the South and the Midwest to join the military. That may have been the case, but the almost assuredly State-sponsored assassination attempt has put paid to that.
Also, if we assume the assassination attempt was hatched within the Power Structure, we must conclude that the judiciary, in the main, has not yet been enfolded within the Power Structure. Too many court cases going Trump’s way these days.
The lingering traces of an independent judiciary are unexpected but not without precedent–that’s happened a few times in Latin America, with Nicaragua and Bolivia springing to mind. The leftists down there resorted to violence and general mau-mauing of the judges, not unlike what we have seen here prior to DOBBS and outside courthouses handling the Trump cases. I obviously believe the system is far beyond repair and reform, but if it were at all possible (or desirable) it would require an independent judiciary and a military and domestic police agency purge on an unprecedented scale.
In case anyone wants to know how the Apparat is going to play it, David Frum — who is an obnoxious propagandist even by Swamp standards — had this to say in The Atlantic, an obnoxious propagandist outfit even by Swamp standards. And they made sure to not have it behind a paywall. Condensed, it’s “behold all the ways he had it coming… and since he has it coming, will no one else rid me of this turbulent priest?”
Frum is a particularly insidious individual. He also is a contradictory one in that almost alone among the Neocons he seems to genuinely understand the instability mass migration causes. People like him want a placid and pliable populace, and will do whatever it takes to have a stable, moldable goyim.
You know who’s got it coming? David Frum.
Frum actually makes tapeworms look sympathetic
Seems like the Biden administration/deep state is embroiled in both foreign and domestic crises, and the foreign and domestic are intertwined.
And ah yes, that “crazed lone gunman” again, reminiscent of Lee Harvey Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan. I’m remnded of the 1974 film, “The Parallax View.” Questioning the crazed lone gunman theory automatically makes you a conspiracy theorist.
This was posted yesterday morning. Haven’t seen a peep about it anywhere else since.
Pennsylvania State Police Lieutenant Colonel George Bivens conveyed that authorities “do not believe it was a lone wolf attack.”
Trump under fire: New details emerge on rally shooting in Pennsylvania (msn.com)
Unfortunately, the url given opens a page so busy with ad’s and other “news” snippets as to be unusable to find you citation.
Never seen TPV, but I do believe that will be my next DVD purchase.
I’ll vote for Trump as a symbol and a catalyst, but I don’t know what to make of what he really is or is capable of. He never once said the words “white people”, but has praised Dreamers, shelled out to blacks with the platinum plan, bragged about the vax, deferred to Javanka, and made clear he’s ready for total war for Israel. If he wins, or rather is allowed to win, I’ll be various curious to see if he is this time going to war with the Deep State or will again simply be pleading to be allowed to… Read more »
Also for a very stable genius, DJT must be a damn fool if he trusts his life to the Secret Service. Why wouldn’t he hire own his private detail to guard him top to bottom?
With all that pandering, why do they hate him so?
I expect to learn that the shooter had been on SSRIs or similar meds, and had been in therapy. That would follow the general pattern of younger shooters all the way back to Columbine.
Then look into who had been in his orbit.
Curious that his phone is super, hyper, totally secure, too.
Phone numbers of whom he called and texted for the recent past are routinely stored and, to my knowledge, not strongly protected private information (e.g. easy available to the law.) Same for location data, possibly also for certain mobile data (DNS searches for instance.) Of course, actual messages could be recorded but that should require a warrant or equivalent. I know almost zero about physical unit, but only a fool would think the spooks don’t have backdoors engineered into most operating systems. As I’ve outlined above, however, the Law wouldn’t even gain much by full access to his mobile, since… Read more »
If it’s who they say it is, his parents were both in psychology—maybe even (((psychology))). Kid never had a chance. Drugs would be the least of his brain damage. He’s absent from the internet, so maybe he really was an unusual guy. But erasure can be arranged. It looks like the last thing they got around to deleting was an ad he appeared in—a BlackRock ad. Cute joke, feds. We’ll never learn about him. Conservatives have reverted to form, just calling him a loser. Whenever they find a reason to do that, they’re done thinking. And Democrats have found a… Read more »
Unlikely that anyone named Crooks is a tribesman, although it’s possible that his mother is a tribeswoman. While one or both may be health care professionals, neither are MD’s so couldn’t prescribe drugs themselves but doesn’t mean he wasn’t.
The fake narrative about not being able to open the phone reminds of the time Apple refused to open the phone of some previous shooter. Sure they did.
To my mind, the most peculiar data point (so far) is that he turned up in a Blackrock ad. What a small world. Figure the odds.
JD Vance, a Zionist NeverTrumper for VP.
I legitimately don’t get Trump’s thinking, the VP pick is supposed to protect you from assassins, not make killing you an easy choice for the people with that power. He flip flops from brilliant to paint chip eating retard in his decision making at the drop of a hat.
I’m also not a fan of the pick. He’s got an Indian wife and half Indian kids. I don’t trust him to be anything other than business that as usual on immigration. Same old, same old Republican kumbaya song and dance.
Funny how Vance thought Trump was “cultural heroin” back when Trump was making speeches about the forgotten man and how heritage Americans have been taking it in the shorts for 75 years, but now that Trump is talking about stapling green cards to the diplomas of people like Vance’s wife, now it is okay to view Trump favorably and join team Trump. Choosing an Asian is an instant sign that a white guy is subpar, and that goes doubly for subcontinental ones. I had originally planned on not voting this year, which went to wanting to support Trump after his… Read more »
I’ve said that before and I’m not sure I’m going to follow through with it, but I’m leaning that way right now. I have no use for the Mitch’s and JD’s of this world who don’t think continuity of our European Christian heritage is important running this government. We’ve got nobody representing us.
Vance is just about the only “name” Republican who isn’t currently anti-Trump. He’s an absolute scumbag and if he becomes president we’re doomed—and by “we” I mean us specifically; not even Schumer hates us more—but the list is very short. Voters don’t know, and campaigns are for them.
I’m guessing that the assassination protection part is Vance not being a supporter of Project Ukraine. Maybe that’s the only reason he is VP. I sure as hell can’t see another.
If it is civil war the left wants, it is civil war they will get. And they will lose, have no doubt. Perverts, lunatics, and doddering seniors CANNOT rule. Leaders need to produce pease, order, and security in order for the society to create a standard of living and keep their citizens happy. The left can only produce chaos, fear, and debacle. Their own people are turning on them and each other. We can literally sit back and given time they will destroy themselves. The problem with that is that the longer it takes for them to do that, the… Read more »
The regime put Biden on TV last night because too many people believe the regime ordered the hit. It wasn’t maybe a week ago that Biden called for Trump to be put in the crosshairs. And he’s been making these weird whispery threats since the debate that Trump is going to experience some sort of major “challenge”. Old people don’t have good filters. Maybe the reason Biden hadn’t dropped out is because he expected Trump to drop dead. The regime has run multiple hoaxes, two absurd impeachments, 5-6 civil and criminal cases to fine him a billion dollars and try… Read more »
For what it’s worth, I remember the Warren Commission. The big takeaway from that was one of the Dulles boys coining the phrase “conspiracy theory” to use on anyone who distrusted the Commission’s findings. The full report is still classified, but we hear that phrase every day.
The joke in my close family we all tell about ourselves is “I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My pronouns are Told, You, So.”
True, but wasn’t that a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians? I would bring in external law enforcement.
Hokkoda: “They’ve got 1,000 more lone wolves they can tap.” This worries me. It worries me a lot. I saw a picture of the sh00ter, after his skull had exploded, and I saw a poor loser incel boy, likely with no father figure in his life, who would have inherited his single mother’s mental instability, and who would have been like psychological silly putty in the hands of the MK Ultra behavioral psychologists. I felt legitimately sorry for the poor kid. To a certain extent, the kid’s physiognomy seemed to be the mirror image of Uncle Ted Kaczynski’s physiognomy. [Apparently… Read more »
“No sane person is relieved to hear that the FBI is leading the investigation.”
Yep. Classic case of the fox investigating the chicken coop.
“So their vision of unity is, really, everyone becoming a liberal.”
Exactly, unfortunately some/most of the “Normies” buy into the lie of “unity”, which really means “capitulation“ to Leftist values. Normies tend to think the situation is like choosing what color to paint your house.
There are values which define one’s very concept of what it is to be a moral and decent person in this world, those values cannot be compromised without becoming an indecent person yourself.
And so it goes….
Well said. I often make a similar argument to leftists in my life, generally regarding religion. Leftists have this belief that different religions simply means calling God a different name, celebrating different holidays, and eating different foods. They don’t grasp that it means very different answers for what construes a moral person, how we should live, and what our society should look like. Their talk about unity is really around their own neo-liberal secularism as the primary moral guide.
“…it means very different answers for what construes a moral person, how we should live, and what our society should look like. “
That’s what it’s all about isn’t it? Too bad it took some of us so damn long to learn this.
I imagine at Trump’s next rally people will be showing up and stationing themselves at the perimeter, using binoculars scanning outward looking for suspicious activity.
The Republican softball shooting, Shinzo Abe, Robert Fico, Donald Trump…recent political violence has been remarkably one sided. Yet they want to try and tell US to tone down the rhetoric and unify. If a MAGA person had taken the same shot at Joe, everyone in this comment section would probably be on a train to the gulag right now. Hopefully this becomes an inflection point for normies, and perhaps Trump himself. Optimistically, I hope that everything they’re doing to him only hardens his mettle to what he needs to do IF he gets into office.
The federal judge in Florida just dismissed the classified documents case against Trump. She ruled the appointment of Jack Smith was unconstitutional, which of course means the clown show in D.C. is as well unless the Supreme Court finds otherwise. People like Smith soon will be offered up as human sacrifices to try to appease the gathering mob. Bank it.
The timing. I don’t blame anyone who believes the regime decided Trump is their guy and is now moving heaven and earth to make it happen. Although the blatant illegality of Smith’s position shouldn’t even need to be pointed out, and would be controversial only to retards and willful liars.
I’m going with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, as well as trying to claw each other’s eyes out.
Bank it? I’m praying for it! I want baying mobs of lefties outside the courthouse doors and on the lawns of their houses. Careening through all the neighborhoods with good schools!
I read a blog post that perfectly encapsulates my current mindset regarding leftists. It is actually a riff off of something Andrew Torba wrote on Gab but the guy expanded the language quite a bit. I could not have said this better myself. Hat tip to the based Italian bro Giuseppe Filotto for penning this. If even a small fraction of normies put this plan into place it would have ripple effects through society but your average person is indeed a coward and afraid of confrontation or being called an “ist” of some sort. I was already pretty much operating… Read more »
Apex: Interesting read, but I cannot wholeheartedly endorse it. Going into local politics or replacing a degenerate teacher assumes that piecemeal change will work and that the underlying institutions and systems are sound. They are not. Aggressive self-defense and pushback will get you arrested and your family destroyed. And the truth is no defense when POX lies rule the day. I did what Torba advocates (cutting off all association with liberals) back in 2008. Cut off some long-time friends and essentially all extended family. I have never looked back and my life has been the better for it. I thank… Read more »
“I did what Torba advocates (cutting off all association with liberals) back in 2008. Cut off some long-time friends and essentially all extended family.” Agree with this approach — my caveat being that I cut them off emotionally, but they do not know it. They really are too self-absorbed to realize that my interactions with them consist mostly of observation, and in those cases they provide fodder for derision, proof of concept, to be share with others not of their stripe. Meets the “keep your friends close and your enemies closer…” mantra and there IS some sense in that. By… Read more »
Aggressive self-defense and pushback will get you arrested and your family destroyed. And the truth is no defense when POX lies rule the day. You are speaking with the living embodiment of this as you know. I have walked down this awful road, so you are right, that part I should have caveated because its 100% true. They will throw the book at you for sure. My take home there was being non-verbal vs. being verbal. Not threats, just a “get the f-ck away from me” type thing. The same way I don’t want a Jehovah’s Witness trying to pitch… Read more »
3g4me: “And the truth is no defense when POX lies rule the day.”
What do “POX” mean in this context?
Perhaps “Persons of Color”?
Thanks.
Agree with one caveat: skin color does matter, at least on first view, because it is an initial statistical indicator of what may be on the inside. It sucks for imitators of coral snakes that they look quite similar, but thems the breaks.
I agreed until Jason Dojo Bourne’s burst of erectile excitement at creme-coloured lovelies. If he thinks the solution is to go all Catholic Charities, somebody tell him there are millions of Catholics in Africa. At least we know he’s not a racist!
I return from the dentist and peruse the headlines and Golly Gee, Trump picked JD Vance as veep. I suppose – as a White man – he is the least bad of the options Trump was considering (conservatards, blacks, women), but this just reaffirms my decision not to vote. Usha Vance may be a very nice women – but it doesn’t matter in the least. She and her children represent the dilution, subsummation, and ultimate extinction of the White European race. Assuming Trump were to somehow win and serve a full term, Vance would be a frontrunner to be president… Read more »
This guy is exactly what Zman always talks about wrt the book deal grifts, the Ivy League credentials, the corporate HR poster pajeeta marriage.
As badass as Saturday Trump was, this pick shows he learned absolutely nothing from the last 8 years. Once he is elected it will be straight to the Canada plan of turning NA into India East.
I ply my trade in the digital technologies. Cheap, arrogant pahjeet labor abounds. I have come to hate them worse than the meztizos. That Vance bred with a pahjeeta multiple times so disgusts me that I shall not vote for Vidyabagish Trump no matter what. I may vote local but otherwise I am sidelined. Disgusting but easy to bed and they’ll do anything for a white guy, I guess this is the standard now. See what is: Lindsay Graham. Next event.
One of their sons is named Vivek. Like I said, all murkan.
The Uttar Pradesh/Upper Peninsula Plan is confirmed: subheadline proclaims opportunities for Vivek Rami-Swami, who’ll be in the administration.
Z is absolutely bang-on about the reflexive Leftist response when they sense the tide has turned against them. Suddenly, they become oh so irenic and conciliatory, proferring the fig leaf of peace and brotherly love. This is what happened after 9/11, too, you’ll recall. Leftist constituents (Sand Hutus) visited the most horrific act of death and destruction on American soil ever (worse than the Civil War and Pearl Harbor because civilians were the primary targets), and in the aftermath we saw a powerful upsurge in patriotism. American flags suddenly sprouted from every car antenna and every domestic awning. Naturally, this… Read more »
”I would like to think it will be different this time ’round. That Trump’s near assassination will create a durable, vigorous white identitarian movement. Alas, I can’t say I’m particularly hopeful on that score.”
I agree, Ostei. I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again – as long as we dirt folk have a warm house, a cold fridge, and a hot spot, there will BE NO REVOLUTION.
I hate that you agree with me. I’d much rather be pilloried and convinced I’m wrong.
I don’t think any of that requires a left/”left,” though they do take advantage. The core American value is identification with the aggressor (often wrongly diagnosed as Stockholm Syndrome).
Muslims bring the war home? Give them your cities. Blacks rape and rob you? Set them free. Jews brag that their plans to destroy you are almost complete? Worship them harder. Corporations collude to exclude your children from the economy? Tax cuts. Cops beat your grandma at the MAGA rally? Fellatio. The military disobeys and overthrows your commander in chief? OUR BRAVE BOYS
It’s everything.
But the American version of Stockholm Syndrome was nowhere in evidence prior to the second half of the 60s when a new, virulent and more evil form of Leftism came to the fore. If Stockhom Syndrome it is, it is the creation of the New Left.
One of the most revealing take-aways from the 9/11 attacks is that the regime increased Muslim immigration into the US. A trend started under Dubya (“he kept us safe”) and continued by Obama. Bipartisanship!
Additionally, the muzz built a very large mosque within spitting distance of ground zero.
Ah well–it is the religion of peace, after all.
I think Biden and Mayorkas are afraid. Biden has had THREE video appearances. The one late Saturday night, the one on mid-Sunday, with Harris, Mayorkas, and Garland, and the one later Sunday night. The one with his cabinet members and Harris was telling. Forget the words, look at the body language. Harris (from left to right on stage) was confused and afraid, picking up on Biden and Mayorkas’s fear. Both looked afraid and Mayorkas looked like a political dead man walking. Tellingly, Garland was smirking, until he realized the camera was on him and quickly frowned. It was remarkable. We… Read more »
From the outside looking in, after this weekend, America seems like a super-sized version of early 1990s Colombia. Except the main export is not Cocaine, but war, miscegenation and gay porn. But the murderous energy is there alright. Since I know and like many Americans and our fate as European vassals very much depends on who takes power in DC, I very much hope that Trump and the decent people of flyover country will be able to manage a return to sanity.
Excellent analogy. I don’t know if our Pablo Escobar is an individual or s group of sleazebags but whoever ordered the hit on Trump definitely has a lot of juice.
There was a recent story to the effect that 37 Mexican candidates [for political office] were assassinated by the Mossad so that (((Sheinbaum))) could seize control.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexican-candidate-assassinations-hit-grim-record-ahead-sundays-election-2024-06-01/
For those of you who don’t know, the (((Sephardim))) were yuge in Mexico, and my suspicion is that very large numbers of mestizos & castizas have Sephardic blood.
There were so many j00z in Mexico that Lev Davidovich Bronstein fled there, in an attempt to hide from Saint Joseph Djugashvili.
Fortunately, however, Saint Joseph hunted down Bronstein, and drove an icepick through Bronstein’s skull.
“…after this weekend, America seems like a super-sized version of early 1990s Colombia” Sure, it can be seen as such from a recent time perspective. But go back to the 60’s—70’s for a longer perspective. JFK assassinated, RFK and MLK assassinated, Malcolm X assassinated, the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA) Liberation Front bank robberies, Bull Conor and dogs and fire hoses, Patty Hearst kidnapping, Black Panthers marching with weapons in Sacramento, students shot down in Ohio State by the national Guard, Vietnam war protests galore and the 68 Tet offensive. Fun times to be had all around. “Violence is as American… Read more »
True – I’m just on the outside looking in and you know more about your country than I do. If a return to sanity after the 60s, 70s was possible, maybe it is now as well. My sincerest best wishes!
Judging from the Republican convention and Trump’s VP pick, are our Jewish overlords are dying out and we’re trading them in for Indian overlords.
I’m staying home in November.
There is no hope for this country whatsoever.
Yup…. not dying out though, just indolent, hubristic and subject to the same IQ and cultural degeneration as the rest of the people who live in the economic zone that used to be our people’s homeland. Indians are odd pick for a janissary class though.. well w/e. It’s happening. Anyway, that was quite a few days huh? Actually got my hopes up a tiny bit after seeing the fist and the “Fight!”. Trump is a great actor, but his handlers really overplayed this… the face tattoo prostitute and that weird hindu crap was just… wow.. I expected them to at… Read more »
I mean it does makes some sense in that Indians are going to have some level on intrinsic resentment towards Whites obviously, since their people were subservient to the British until pretty recently, but man… indians are lolcows socio-culturally. “plz bobs, vagine, etc.”
Well actually I guess that makes sense too. You don’t want your janissaries to be strong lest you end up falling to the Mamluks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk
Anyway, this sucks. I hate it. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better, clearly.
I think there is also an undercurrent that Indians get special treatment as a wedge or bribe against the Chinese. By placating or selling out your country to India, you keep them in the Western Sphere, when it would otherwise lean at the very least unaligned, or possibly even anti-Western/Atlanticist. The thing is, one of the major deals made with India is just to let them flood your country, instead of the standard bribes in Central Asia etc. where you simply invest in some infrastructure and a handful of fixers get enriched. India has its own homegrown billionaires and power… Read more »
Another thing is the Anglo-Indian imperial relationship stretching back centuries. India provided vast reservoirs of soldiers and manpower for British military might: once they were done, the Empire was gone. India really was the “jewel in the crown”. I think there is still some nostalgia for that among Anglo elites…like their nostalgia for the “Great Game” against Russia. One more thing: India/Anglo-India does produce some top-class people. There is some serious talent, and they have a definite “meeting of minds” with the upper caste of WASP society on both sides of the Atlantic (especially the eastern shore). Speaking from my… Read more »
I think also, a Hot Civil War is inevitable at this point. Elites are divided, with some significant elements aligned with Trump and MAGA. Others are all in with Obama/Biden. The DOJ is intent on prosecuting Trump right up to his inauguration, if he wins, and possibly beyond. The DOJ seems to imply they are the master, not the servant. Meanwhile, people are asking: How is it a 20 year old has NO Social Media history or presence? How did he stash a rifle and ladder in a secure area? How did he just casually move the ladder up onto… Read more »
Never forget that they are relatively few in number. And they will flee rapidly as an emergent behavior when properly motivated. And the fog of chaos fundamentally defeats the jackboot cordon. They have imported millions of military age males with the intent of sowing harm against the bottom of the societal pyramid. But these mercenaries can be incentivized and redirected toward the root of the problem. That should be the first wave. Everything else is clean-up.
<i>they think it is time to put aside our differences and come together as brothers</i>
Yes, like Cain and Abel.
Look at the Thomas Matthew Crooks’s high school, Bethel Park High School
Black face in front of the homepage when only 10% of student are a minority
you can see the what kind of school management it is, eternal hatred toward white children
No wonder younger generation of white population is having a mentally illness
I hope you are right Z but I have my doubts. Middle America is an optimistic lot and apple pie and baseball runs deep, most still think Walt Disney content is still Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Optimism is a long candle that is still burning, even with Trump I predict. The calls are going out by the lunatics to have peace, cross that aisle and shake hands, no harm done. Trump now has the support of the big boys like Bill Ackman. Trump still I think believes that he can be Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan dodged a… Read more »
Middle America does not think this at all. Not for a long time.
Time will tell. Trump has already shifted to the city on the Hill speech and will reach out for a unified nation.
I want a unified nation too.
After the lunatics are deported.
I think we who inhabit boards like this underestimate how much normie believes we can return to Ronald Reagan America. Trump believes this strongly I think. The key will be Trumps picks for those around him and it starts with his VP pick. If the VP pick is a friend of the Republican establishment then we can count on Trump, should he get in again, playing Ronald Reagan.
The left will wait him and his demographic out and the ratchet wrench will turn again in four years.
It’s JD Vance. The best among the leading candidates, and the best we could hope from Trump.
“Let’s all just get along as Rodney King said….”
I respect your sentiment, but King did not said that. What he said was, “Can’t we all just get along?” And the answer is *no*, we all just can’t get along—for the thousand reasons given here in this group of DR’ers now and in the past.
G Lordon Giddy: I see it largely as you do. But most people are optimists, and desperate to believe that good always wins in the end. Any common sense points you could make will be booed today by people high on hope. Nothing to do other than wait things out.
3g4me, I’ve just rewatch the old Lord Of The Rings trilogy and come away with a bit of a different take on your comment. Most people are cowards in the face of evil. Optimism backed by *inaction* is only a cover and hope is a detriment to positive action. In the LOTR’s stories, every battle scene is one of the good characters abandoning all hope, and in such facing evil because it is better to die fighting such than to live under evil. In the abandonment of hope, Tolkien elevates the heroic actions of the good into a sublime act… Read more »
golly I hope you’re right.
Two big Ifs and a small But: If the goal is to appeal to white people, now is not the time to be countersignalling Trump, Vance’s wife, democracy, any of this. At least not in public. Fuentes grasped this immediately and shifted his rhetorical fire from Trump to Project 2025 in masterful fashion, and I say this as a non-fan. If the trend holds, the GOP is going to roll and will increase its share of the nonwhite vote to the point that conservative boomers can croak feeling righteous and vindicated. No amount of waving around Table 43 by any… Read more »
“…in the event that Trump is handed a poisoned chalice in the form of a wider war in the Middle East.”
If he wins the election (doubtful, given the rigging and 10 million voting illegals) and escapes assassination (surely they will try again), last roll of the dice is spark hot war with Iran/Russia and leave Trump holding the bag. Powerless to move against the onrush of events (so they hope).
Well now the conspiracy stuff really gets going.
Unconfirmed sources and internet sleuths are saying that shooter is Maxwell Yearick,
The corpse in the photos sure looks a lot more like Yearick.
If we’re to get into a hot civil war, somebody needs to name the enemy. That or give us a uniform that distinguishes us from them.
[…] ZMan looks ahead. […]
The hapless shooter intended to be a hero but instead has probably ensured the election of Trump. All that and Hell too.
Yes. But whatabout Hispanics? I guess we’ll know if and/or when they flip California.
There is irony that the spiteful mutants who are invoking the bad Uvalde/Parkland/Sandy Hook gun-toting school shooters yet cheering/agonizing over the Trump assassination attempt are in a sense rooting for the bullied shooter trying to kill the Big Bully. (If one sticks to the official narrative).
I hope Z-man is right, and this is an inflection point, but this was merely one attempted assassination. The 1960s saw quite a few assassinations – successful ones, but at that time they were targeted at leftist politicians. The late 1960s were so white-hot politically, Boomers are still getting misty-eyed over their part in it, and many still think the country is run by greedy racist WASPS. I would not be surprised if Trump gets shot at again. I would also not be surprised if a right winger starts taking shots, psyop or otherwise, so that the Regime can claim… Read more »
“Days of Rage – America’s Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Revolutionary Violence.” In the 60’s an early 70’s, bombings were an almost daily occurrence and assassinations were commonplace. The white leaders did short prison sentences then went on the long march through the institutions. (they won). (Black leaders went to jail for a long, long time) I agree with you though…I honestly thought they’d have the most ridiculous over the top Florida Man MAGA Patriot Front Proud Boy target the other team to justify a Jan 6 x 1 million crackdown. With a full on media account full… Read more »
Jsut goes to show that Ol’ Remus (RIP), whose blog I’m sure we all miss, had it correct: “Stay away from crowds!”
Yeah,I miss that grumpy Ole man.
This reportedly is the fourth such attempt on Trump. The first three were kept quiet.
What about the assassination attempt at Reagan? Was that a triggering event or an inflection point?
Not all points of a graph are inflection points.
Sure. I think it was a reasonable question.
And, well, you got a reasonable answer…
Yes, the answer is reasonable, but apparently my question has triggered a few people for some reason.
It’s a dumb question. Hinckley shot Reagan because in his delusional mind, he thought it would impress Jodi Foster, whom he was obsessed with. His delusion’s were compounded by the fact that Foster is a lesbian. Politic’s played no part in his motivation.
Hmm, so no conspiracy theories there, just a clear cut story about a deranged man. Very interesting.
…just like apostrophes play NO PART in plural nouns….
“Hmm, so no conspiracy theories there”
Hinckley survived, so that speak to his authenticity – the SS even dogpiled him for protection, in case there was a backup shooter ready to clean up Hinckley.
Upon his release, Democrats who want to pretend they’re subversives adopted Hinckley as a mascot, their version of Uncle Ted. Not an “inflection point” but a symbolic oddity. /ourguy/ is a successfully murderous math autist and political philosopher, and theirs is a crappy folk-singing soy creep who fails at everything—while in real life we always fail and they always succeed. A Satanic inversion!
Could it be said that the attempt on Reagan was truly an outlier, attempted by a mentally unhinged man looking for recognition from a Hollywood star, as opposed to a politically motivated individual? I’m sure there are various conspiracy theories on Reagan’s shooter, but it comes across, superficially, as simply a madman doing mad things.
The first of many times – right up to this weekend – where the press ignored our mental health system to focus on firearms.
Hinckley was a patsy; his family is connected to the Bushes. The jodi foster story was for the rubes. There were men on the roof who shot at Reagan.
Conspiracy theorists typically have a difficult time comprehending that events like that rarely happen in isolation, they don’t always happen according to prescribed narratives (theirs included).
I thought all the family friends of the Bushes were unhinged potential shooters, weren’t they?
John Lennon’s assassin was also, to all appearances, a genuine madman, and was not motivated by opposition to Lennon’s Leftist politics.
It was a culture war inflection point. The Brady Bill became a staple for gun control advocates and was the paradigmatic case of all the subsequent chipping away at the Second Amendment.
Perhaps only a minor one for gun control. Major inflection points before: NFA 1934, then GCA 1968.
History can be a bitch when you don’t know any….
1981 was a different world from 2024. There was decidedly no sense that an inflection was needed. Of course, the malign forces were well advanced by that time, but that fact was hardly obvious.
Are you sure? Wasn’t Reagan voted into office precisely because people felt that an inflection was needed? They even called it the “Reagan revolution”. People felt that the pendulum is finally swinging back in the conservative direction and libs were quite mad about it.
If that was the case then his election was the inflection. The assassination attempt catalyzed nothing.
The conflating factor in 1981 was the rise in drug trafficking and the associated crime involved as the money flow increased. Drug use spread from low life inner city to more chic upscale neighborhoods and clientele. As lone as drug use was a lower SES kind of thing, it was tolerated. Crime of course entailed violence using firearms, particularly handguns, hence “Handgun Inc” after the Reagan/Brady shooting. Brady became the symbol for the movement to ban handguns—but the precedent or firearm control was already set by the laws I cited above. 1934 allowed infringement of the 2nd Amendment as to… Read more »
Have to wonder if it’s just coincidence or maybe intentional that trumps Agenda 47 sounds a lot like or could be subliminal connection to Agent 47.
videogame reference. But would make some awesome memes too. Trump as Agent 47