The People They Desire

A change that has happened in the culture of the West that has gone largely unnoticed is the concern for psychological states. A generation ago, what mattered in most cases was the material state of things. Governments cared about the economy in terms of measurables like inflation and GDP. Now they care about how “marginalized groups” are feeling about their social status. Large employers now worry about employee wellness, rather than financial benefits.

This is a shift from the objective to the subjective. Inflation is a thing you can measure, even if there are disputes about how the measures are done. Prices are either rising, falling, or remaining the same. The impact of inflation on the psychological state of consumer is another matter. There is no way to objectively describe such a thing, much less produce a metric for it. The only thing to go on are the opinions of people who claim to be experts in these sorts of soft areas.

You see the same shift in the workplace. In the prior century, managers focused on objective measures like productivity and the cost of labor. The manager in charge of benefits focused on driving down the costs of those benefits, while increasing the value to the employee. Now the point of a benefits plan is to increase employee wellness, which cannot be measured, only assessed. More importantly, there is no way to connect employer behavior to the result.

In every organization of scale, and society as a whole, the focus of attention has shifted from things that are easily measured and understood in terms of practical impact, to things that are not quantifiable. At the same time, it is increasingly assumed and asserted that these intangibles are more important than the tangibles. The practical impact of inflation on the household budget is not important, but whether a political candidate can show they share your values is monumentally important.

You can see this change in how Harris and Trump present themselves. Trump has rattled off a list of things he says he will do if elected, like eliminating taxes on tips and overtime, which he says will boost the middle-class. These are claims that rest on the agreed upon math of economics. Harris, on the other hand, talks about her plan in soft, intangible terms. What matters to her, and what she thinks matters to you, is that she shares your values as a middle-class person.

Notice that no one ever tries to explain exactly what they mean by “share your values” or describe the actual values. Is it even possible to share the values of another person, since values are subjective? This sort of therapeutic language is deliberately vague, as it is entirely emotive. When someone says she shares your values, she is saying you are on the side of good and she is on the side of good. There is nothing more being communicated with those words.

This shift from the objective to the subjective goes beyond how the political candidates present themselves to the public. Increasingly, people and events are viewed not in practical terms but in the context of an evolving set of normative standards that have no clear truth value. What is “wellness” and why do we care? Ask ten people and you get ten answers to those questions. Wellness is a thing we believe exists and it is either good or not good and good is what we should want.

Another example is the reaction to the Israeli terror attack on Lebanon. Blowing up random people is supposed to demoralize Hezbollah. This is a claim that has been repeated, even by Israel haters. Why would anyone think this and so what if it gives some Hezbollah guys the blues for a few days? What is supposed to happen as a result of this case of the sads? Not only does no one know, no one asks. The practical issue is no longer of interest. It is all about the psychological.

The Ukrainians launched an attack on the Kursk region of Russia last month and according to everyone involved, the main purpose was to “psychologically impact Russian civilians” and embarrass Putin. Again, why would anyone think such a result was likely or would matter? Did they think Putin would delete his Twitter account and call off the war, because he got owned on the internet? The answer must be yes, as this has been a theme in the West since the war started.

What we are seeing is an orientalization of the culture. Saving face and losing face are things that we associate with East Asian societies. An important person is found to have failed in his duties, so in order to avoid losing face and shaming his family and associates, he kills himself in a ritualized fashion. His honorable choice in the end absolves him and his associates of his dishonorable behavior. This means behavior is controlled within this cultural construct.

In the West, this shame/lack of shame concept has been embedded into the binary politics of progressivism. Someone like Hillary Clinton, for example, is terrible at all of the practical things related to politics, but she upholds the honor culture of progressive politics, so she is an honored elder of our politics. Trump brings shame to the democracy and refuses to let himself be killed, so he deserves assassination. The fact that he is good at politics and is right about most things is irrelevant.

One reason for this is the feminization of the ruling class. Relations between men are controlled by honor and duty. Relations between women are based in shame, so as women have taken over areas of the ruling class, the values have shifted from a foundation in honor and duty to one of shame. In a world run by people biologically tuned to care about looking good, how things look is paramount, so it is no surprise that a feminized ruling class now cares about saving face.

Probably the biggest fact, however, is the ruling class of the American empire has not had to worry about the duties of a ruling class for a long time. By the end of the Cold War, the domestic stuff was on autopilot. As long as the Fed controlled the money supply, recession and social unrest were not a concern. The only remaining concern was relations with Russia and once the Cold War ended, foreign affairs stopped being a game controlled by adults.

That last bit is the important part. Along with the feminization of the ruling class has come the infantilization of politics. It used to be said that “politics ain’t beanbag” but now it is closer to dodgeball. Instead of serious men making decisions with practical consequences, politics is now a playground for adult children. The reason our politics reflect the language and attitudes of the academy, is like the academy, the political class is an adult daycare center.

This is why the information space is full of assertions about soft concepts like the morale of guerilla fighters in Lebanon or the political class of Moscow. It is also why facts and charts have no impact on public attitudes. Increasingly, the sensibility of the general public reflects the sensibilities of the adult babies who parade across the screen, pointing and jeering at one another. People may not get the government they deserve, but the rulers get the people they desire.


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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
6 hours ago

When we write the obituary of the American Empire three things that are not polite to talk about must be talked about before anything new is begun.

1. Jewish power and its affect on us, especially since 1945.
2. Female power and its affect on us since the 19th amendment.
3. Race realism and why the truth must be told and acted upon or its impossible to build anything new.

Three subjects that are taboo right now but must be faced to build anything new as this order weakens away.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
6 hours ago

The three classical sticking points from normie to dissident: JQ, WQ, RQ

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
6 hours ago

Truth.. You can’t have the 14 Words without overcoming those sticking points…

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 hours ago

I have to say that if I had to choose one of these to focus on, it would be the second, the WQ. A simple analysis would hold that because we’ll never persuade women to give up their voting (& other) privileges voluntarily, it will be that difference that will distinguish successful societies going forward. And it isn’t just an East vs West distinction either. MacArthur gave Japan a new constitution modeled after the American one and look where it’s led them. Korea has the lowest fertility rate in the world. China is also experiencing a hollowing-out. The entire world… Read more »

Last edited 3 hours ago by Tom K
Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Tom K
2 hours ago

Patriarchy is the normal, healthy state of a society. Feminism is an attack on that normal, healthy state.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 hours ago

Very powerful summary. Nice work. I’d only add that white men:

* when affluent, become the most gullible people on the planet (and the most generous).

* have a tendency towards abstract ideology, which no one else in the world shares. We look at a race war and conclude that the conflict is about “communism.”

Last edited 2 hours ago by LineInTheSand
Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
36 minutes ago

We look at a race war and conclude that the conflict is about “communism.” While it is not exactly right, it’s not entirely wrong. Most of what ails us is at least talked about in equalitarian rhetoric and occasionally communism. The real problem isn’t that anyone views it through a lens of communism so much as their answer to it is just the flip side of communism, egalitarianism. Really, our preferences should not need rationalizations. I don’t want them here because I don’t want to smell them, look at them or interact with them in any way. Opening our telecommunications… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 minutes ago

More egregiously, most all these spam calls could be stopped in a NY minute. None of these calls are made without payment for the facility use to AT&T (and derivatives—baby bells—across the nation). They have the ability to listen in to these calls and suspend the account (ability to robocall call). There might now be other notable players, but it’s the same choke point. However, they want the revenue, so no action takes place on their end.

My Comment
My Comment
7 hours ago

Good post but it isn’t just the feminization of the ruling class, it is also the feminization of the managerial class and the increasing role of women in society. For example, young men are starting to turn away from politics while young women are increasing their participation. Harris’ talk of joy appeals to women because they don’t have to understand boring issues, they just have to want to experience joy. Women also hate being accountable and don’t think in terms of statistics. So tying your advocacy to easily measured goals is a threat to them. You can see this played… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  My Comment
7 hours ago

All of our society is turning into a sitcom run by HR females…It’s about what’s “nice” as defined by single women rather than what works…As Derbyshire wrote long ago, We Are Doomed…..

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  pyrrhus
6 hours ago

Nice – from the Latin “nescius” – ignorant and foolish. Gradually morphed into ‘fussy’ and then into ‘agreeable’ and ‘pleasant.’ A useless, meaningless word suited to a world run for useless women.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
5 hours ago

Agreed, but harsh. Women have the greater role of either sex—child bearing and child rearing. They’vejust been told the “great lie” wrt to their role in society. To which I provide visible proof—even the worst scumbag on earth with take your head off if you screw with their mother, not so much for dad.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
4 hours ago

Women who eschew marriage and children – their innate biological and social function – to pretend to be police officers or to harass men as office managers – are useless. And yes, every nogger claims eternal fealty to his mama – this is not a sterling example of the maternal role and import. For western Christians, “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife . . . “

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  My Comment
6 hours ago

Some wag has called them “Brides of the State” (BOTS). What joy they used to get from marriage and family they now get from the false euphoria of worshipping the State and riding the co*k carousel.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Captain Willard
6 hours ago
mmack
mmack
Reply to  My Comment
6 hours ago

Women also hate being accountable and don’t think in terms of statistics. So tying your advocacy to easily measured goals is a threat to them

Want to terrify / anger a woman? Make her make a decision and stick to it. 😉

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
5 hours ago

Women will avoid any “decision making” like an ant avoids a child’s magnifying glass in the sun. This of course is directly related to taking responsibility.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
2 hours ago

Their only responsibility should in rearing children and keeping house…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  My Comment
6 hours ago

I watch the YouTube, and every other ad lately is some woman past her childbearing years worrying about abortion or Trump bad because convicted, Kamala shares our community’s values. It’s a woman’s world, and it’s hysterical, failing, careening from one daily crisis to the next. Covid was a plague, Putin is Hitler, Trump is Orange Hitler, etc. Biased, but I like being a man, prefer being a man. It’s peaceful and orderly by comparison, even if you have to fight sometimes. This is the hell women live through, hence the perennial wisdom of being led by men. PS guys, you… Read more »

Last edited 6 hours ago by Paintersforms
Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Paintersforms
6 hours ago

When it comes to manipulating women, compared to the regime the PUAs really are pikers

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 hours ago

The regime has the Trump card: ability to steal and give away infinite beta bucks

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 hour ago

Around the turn of the century there was a PUA fad on TV. Tucker Max did a show, the guy in the silly pimp hat had a series for years, “manosphere” names we know were judge-panelist-commentators on dating and reality shows, etc. I didn’t watch any of it but it was popular with women I knew and had a strong Freudian (actual Freud) effect on them. They started wondering aloud about their own decision-making, their susceptibility to manipulation, Why do we fall for obvious crap from obvious creeps?, asking men if they know this stuff and keep it secret, etc.… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 hours ago

Yeah, women thrive on hysteria but it makes them miserable. They get a brief shot of joy after a destructive victory then it is off to the next hysteria.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  My Comment
3 hours ago

Something i’ve noticed thru out my years (and this is some women, not all women, they like to deflect with that comment) is when you get a woman who is complaining about something stupid she did, if you react to her like her dad would, tell her its her own damn fault and she needs to do this or that and stop making stupid decisions……. you’ll get a text later that night about how you were mean to her, but really she wants more. Strange.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 hours ago

Here is a task for you: Pay attention to how many kamala ads you can skip and how many trump ads you can skip. Report back 😉

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Mr. House
1 hour ago

Right? Trump ads are almost always skippable, Harris ads I’m not sure, but it seems like 50/50 or so. Kind of expect that, but the gynocentrism really sticks out! Even Trump ads don’t seem targeted at bros. It’s the women’s election, God help us.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 hour ago

somebody is paying attention!

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 hours ago

PS guys, you already let the bitch have everything. You’re hanging around for scraps. That ain’t much to lose.

That applies to quite a few of our guys sad to say…Number one excuse when I talked to guys about Building Community was my wife would divorce me if I wanted to move or my wife wouldn’t like the cold…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lineman
2 hours ago

From speaking to people and skimming thousands of online comments, it seems tons of White men would love to have their own piece of land and get out of the city rat race. Their wives? Not so much. Men need to become the heads of their own families before they can even think about wider social issues. And they need to be a lot more careful about whom they marry.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
3 minutes ago

And they need to be a lot more careful about whom they marry.”

Bingo. I get lambasted whenever I say such. There are plenty of good women around, but not necessarily the hotties you attempt to meet in bars.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
1 hour ago

Yep. Look at young people. They’re screwed. Men already gave in, just clinging to stuff.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 hours ago

Funny thing, but I’ve been getting ads for make up for black women. The one ad has a woman who is as black as coal talking about lipstick.

I cannot wait until my adblocker is updated.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 hour ago

Lucky you lol. Exclusively politics for me right now.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 hour ago

Looks like you made somebody’s black list. That’s the sort of punishment you get for posting on Z.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  My Comment
3 hours ago

I’ve said this before, but every single situation at work that created some sort of drama was caused by a woman. My wife works on a team of all females and she is constantly telling me how she can’t stand it because they are constantly causing some sort of ruckus. They have to complain about something incessantly, whether it is real or not. I told a shitlib acquaintance of mine once that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote or be in the boardroom. Her entire head got as red as a tomato and she went into a raging tirade. I… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 hours ago

Her entire head got as red as a tomato and she went into a raging tirade.”

Ha ha ha!

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 hours ago

God created a man first then a woman. This is because he didn’t want advise on how to make men.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  george 1
2 hours ago

I mean advice.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tired Citizen
8 minutes ago

They have to complain about something incessantly, whether it is real or not.”

While I didn’t personally witness this, a very dude-ish friend of mine was once the only man at a female-led compnay. He called it the “hen house.”

He tells me that there was once a meeting over someone’s use of “passive-aggresive font choice” in an email.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  My Comment
3 hours ago

One of the biggest surprises of my life has been how fundamentally selfish most (not all) women are. I don’t think feminism changed female nature, it just revealed it. Even my own mother, who was a traditional stay at home mom, regrets that choice. She wishes that she’d been a girl-boss. The only urge that is stronger in most women than their selfishness is their desire to be accepted by the winning team of men (the race of the winning team does not matter to most women). Men’s only choices: insufferable girl-bosses or women who are told that if they want to join the… Read more »

Last edited 2 hours ago by LineInTheSand
Xman
Xman
6 hours ago

Yes. The ruling class, the media, the academy, and even business have become completely feminized. (There are still plenty of cold, steely-eyed capitalists grinding x-number of widgets per out out of the workers for y-profit, but that has all been offshored to China and Mexico and Vietnam where the coolie labor is not unionized or give any pushback for their $2 wages and 14-hour days). I found this out over 20 years ago in the academy. Upon defending my dissertation, I accepted a job at a very large community college with 30,000 students. I grew up in a blue-collar household… Read more »

Last edited 6 hours ago by Xman
Ride-By Shooter
Ride-By Shooter
Reply to  Xman
5 hours ago

Your experience with [cough] higher education called to mind a old story which isn’t well known in this gruesome civilization. During the teaching career of Siddhattha Gotama, he was beset with a request by a woman, one of his father’s wives, to admit women into the order of mendicant beggars. Three times she, the woman who had raised Gotama after his mother died, pleaded her case. Three times he refused, after which he departed the area where this interaction occured. She organized a bunch of women who followed Gotama to the new place where he’d taken up residence. Some time… Read more »

Last edited 5 hours ago by Ride-By Shooter
mmack
mmack
Reply to  Ride-By Shooter
5 hours ago

Women’s superpower: Nagging. We men have a weakness that we Just. Want. Quiet. To rest our weary bones.

Nope.

So we fall into the trap of “OK, if I let you do this will you just be quiet?”

And there the camel gets its toe, er, nose under the tent.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  mmack
5 hours ago

Nagging is just the manifestation of women being unwilling/unable to take no for an answer to something they want

Last edited 5 hours ago by Jeffrey Zoar
Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
3 hours ago

If you have never seen this – one of the greatest videos ever – then do yourself a favor. The video is only one and a half minutes, but this is Man at his most Man. The way she thought she had him, and he just terms it right back at her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YDqm7LXt2g

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

Women want to yammer on aimlessly and endlessly. Men want to be left in peace so they can drink a beer and pet the dog. That’s the sort of “safe space” I’d like.

Last edited 4 hours ago by Ostei Kozelskii
Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
6 hours ago

I was just watching Terminator 2, on FX.
A commercial for HIV medication came on and an interracial homosexual male couple was shown kissing in their kitchen.

I do believe I have finally been compelled to get rid of my TV.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 hours ago

The only reason broadcasting corporations can get away with disseminating such vile perversions is because the collective gag reflex has been excised. Whereas in the past extreme disgust caused us to raise hell, now we just stare ahead with glassy eyes and slack jaws.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 hours ago

To our shame,but apparently true.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 hour ago

Michael Hoffman writes upon this phenomenon, arguing that we have been subjected to mass trauma in order to make us malleable.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Eloi
1 hour ago

Mass trauma–that’s a pretty good way to describe the onslaught of propaganda and indoctrination we’ve been receiving for the last half century or so. And it’s succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of its creators, no doubt.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 hours ago

I had enjoyed reading crappy but entertaining fiction (TEOTWAWKI, time travel, espionage, etc.) as escapism. Invariably now, even with previously reliable authors, I encounter “x” and his husband, or “y” the magic black nuclear physicist, within the first 25 pages. Amazon has banned me from writing what I thought were carefully worded reviews of such books. Most of my physical books (those we didn’t sell prior to moving ) are still in boxes at another location because our cabin lacks the space. There is nothing they will not pervert or destroy. Those who think they can avoid choosing a side… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 hours ago

We no longer watch any live TV. We have some streaming services, but we watch mostly documentaries and I purchase all of the old movies that I enjoy watching over and over. The days of sitting through these unbearable commercials are over for us.

Winter
Winter
7 hours ago

“…the rulers get the people they desire.” Oddly enough, they prefer foreigners and criminals over the country’s law-abiding heritage population — well, as long as they don’t have to personally live among their beloved dusky hordes.

manc
manc
Reply to  Winter
6 hours ago

Boy do shitlibs hate it when you point out their hypocrisy on immigration. Reactions bordering on hysteria.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Winter
6 hours ago

They cherry-pick a few compliant, docile ones to come into their HOA in an old Chevy van and tend their gardens and fix their roofs… then send them packing at 5 pm.

Whiskey
Whiskey
6 hours ago

Agreed, however with Israel it appears that the blowing up of comms, including radios, is a prelude to invasion. So that’s practical. Indeed, the entire reaction of Israel has been a divide between those who are practical and those who care about looking good. If you believe reports, Bibi has had both increased protests (those who care about looking good) AND popularity, as many and perhaps most Israelis see a “War to the death” with Hamas and Hezbollah. That after Oct 7 the old ways of pretend strikes and pretend retaliation are simply not possible. The size and scope of… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whiskey
6 hours ago

Great comment.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
5 hours ago

Seems to me like something you would do the morning of the invasion, or no more than 24 hrs prior. Yet we’re still waiting. Perhaps there is more to come.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
Reply to  Whiskey
4 hours ago

Diddy, jz and all these rap and hip hop guys are ties up with cia. Look up Lyor Cohen.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
6 hours ago

In the immortal words of a long ago comment on the Z-blog:

If there’s crazy, there’s pussy involved.

usNthem
usNthem
7 hours ago

Kind of anecdotal, but my wife occasionally watches America’s Got Talent. I’m usually in another room as I can’t stand that kind of crap anymore. Anyway, if I (unfortunately) tune into the sound, all I hear are girls and women screaming and cheering, non-stop. And in our enlightenment, we’ve allowed these types into positions of power and influence throughout society. When you think about it, it’s no wonder we’re at the current sad pass – and likely to get sadder. The question is will we ever get that genie back in the bottle…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  usNthem
7 hours ago

We won’t but some culture that isn’t ruled by women will and it will be a very painful process for all involved…

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  usNthem
6 hours ago

I usually think of this dynamic in the sense of legions of women screaming their heads off to The Beatles or Elvis. There is no corollary for men behaving this way. The closest you can get is him cheering for his sportsball team, which fails as a comparison, since it lacks the sexual aspect (which is the primary aspect of the woman’s behavior here), and also he only cheers for them when they do well, otherwise he boos or is silent. Whereas they have wet panties regardless. I’ve heard a reliable report of women peeing themselves in excitement at a… Read more »

Last edited 6 hours ago by Jeffrey Zoar
Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
6 hours ago

If we dont reject that last decision Darwin’s going to pull us from the game

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 hours ago

Coach Darwin is definitely not a “players’ coach”…

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
7 hours ago

“Harris, on the other hand, talks about her plan in soft, intangible terms. What matters to her, and what she thinks matters to you, is that she shares your values as a middle-class person.” This is patently vacuous bullshit on her part. She’s an apparatchik of the deep state, just like those p.o.s. Biden and Hillary. Not one of them had or has a domestic program worth the name so of course what they say has to be couched in vague and woolly words that evaporate into nothingness on close scrutiny. Harris is Biden 2.0 — just more endless wars… Read more »

Last edited 7 hours ago by Arshad Ali
Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
6 hours ago

Well, simply put: We have shame without honor and managerialism without accountability, feedback or consistent rules.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Arshad Ali
5 hours ago

The most terrifying aspect of that Unz link is that the CIA director William Burns is among those claiming that “Putin is bluffing” about responding in kind to a NATO attack directly on Russia. I’ve long thought these deluded clowns would bumble into nuclear war and that has become a probability now.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 hours ago

Burns does have a point. We’re about a month into a NATO invasion of Russia proper and everybody’s just kind of pretending that hasn’t happened.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 hours ago

A month’s delay is starting a nuclear war is not reassuring in the least. It is almost a certitude that an initial strike, likely on Ukraine, is being explored (probably hypersonics initially) and prepared now.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
5 hours ago

If a boss asks a worker what he can do to make his life better, you will see total silence if the worker answers bluntly, “pay me more.” It’s considered an impolite and declasse answer. Insubordinate even.

Hence the meme of “work pizza party”

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
Reply to  Fakeemail
3 hours ago

Shop owner asked me once why I thought I deserved a raise, given that he considered the value I added to his company was “just doing your job”.

I told him that the fire won’t get any hotter unless you pour more coal on it.

TomA
TomA
5 hours ago

With respect to the pager caper by Israel, the law of unintended consequences applies. We’ve all been in a fight or two in our lives. If its a standup affair and you exchange a few punches, that’s an honorable exercise no matter who wins or loses. But if the other guy kicks you in the nuts, then its game on and someone’s going to the hospital. That is the fate that awaits the IDF if they invade Lebanon. Its going to be ugly, as it should when fighting an despicable asshole. We The People are being kicked in the nuts.… Read more »

mmack
mmack
7 hours ago

Z today: Put women in charge and it’s all about feelings and emotions. i would argue about shaming just now becoming a thing. In the past, as the old joke goes, the worst thing to happen to a male politician was “to be caught in bed 🛌 with a dead woman or a live boy”. Men of power who were caught with their pants down (quite literally) were expected to resign in shame. Now? They flaunt their degeneracy. Let that freak flag 🌈 fly eh? I suppose it’s a legacy of one sex that doesn’t want to be judged on… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  mmack
1 hour ago

Joke indeed. Chappaquiddick’s dead girl (caught with) was before most of us were born. It improved Kennedy’s image with women, as any actual wise man would predict.* The Senator for life could easily have been president—for life, if they wanted. The deciders were, even then, too media-addled to know it. “Dead girl” is a problem in stories, the land of invented obstacles. In real life, royalty is (indistinguishable from, except in extremis) total freedom. Current_year is older than we think. Most of it is a lot older than 1969. *The known facts of the case best fit this crime: As… Read more »

manc
manc
6 hours ago

A good example of this infantilization of politics came in the last debate; one of the mods asked Trump, “Do you want the Ukraine to win the war?” like it was the Jets/Chiefs game. No consideration of what victory looks like, what the Russian goals are, what can be negotiated, what can be enforced just “do you want the approved narrative good guys to win because the other guys are bad?” Jesus Christ.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
5 hours ago

Notice that no one ever tries to explain exactly what they mean by “share your values” or describe the actual values.

That’s because they all know what she means. Their “values” are just the unrestricted ability to murder their own children in utero. That is the only issue that matters to Harris supporters, and it is extremely popular among women voters.

Removing women’s “rights” fixes this.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. Generic
5 hours ago

One wonders what Harris would run on if the SCOTUS hadn’t done what it did. Or if it even would be Harris.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
4 hours ago

Actually, her “values” are the whole panoply of Leftist views revolving around the adoration of negroes, perverts and to a lesser extent women, combined with the abomination of the Blue-Eyed Ice Devil.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mr. Generic
3 hours ago

Abortion is merely an offshoot. Their main issue is anti-White and anti-male hatred, which is hatred of God-ordained hierarchy and order.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
3 hours ago

@3g4me

took my comment away :-). I was going to write this exact thing. Spot on.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
6 hours ago

Excellent, Z. Along with the feminization of the ruling class has come the infantilization of politics. The question, unanswered here or anywhere else I read, is “why?” My hunch is abundance. Some point to the Rat Utopia experiment, but a reversion to infantilism was not the primary problem that was identified in the study. Feminization certainly became a problem among the rats. Does feminization lead to infantilization? Maybe. If abundance is indeed the reason and is fleeting, and it almost certainly will not be sustained, masculinity and adulthood will be reasserted in dramatic fashion when it goes away. The Ruling… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 hours ago

Abundance has indeed allowed people to live carelessly. I know. I have drifted along carelessly for most all my life and things have worked out just swell. I’ve made decisions and choices that would be unthinkable in times of scarcity, because I knew there was enough opportunity and options that something good would turn up.

No generation before the boomers ever had such plenty.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
5 hours ago

An honest and self-reflective elder. You should be in office, not the other Boomers.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 hours ago

How very true. I’ve got a collection of 20 nice wrist watches, for crying out loud. If one ignores the importance of aesthetics, nothing could be more frivolous. But in times of uncertainty and scarcity, frivolity becomes gross irresponsibility. At least I’m not guilty of that.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 hours ago

Oh I don’t know Brother a nice Rolex is as good as cash and they seem to be beating inflation so can’t really knock yourself for that…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
3 hours ago

Appreciate it. However, I don’t own a Rolly, or even an Omega or Grand Seiko. I’ve got an odd yen for obscurity and individuality, and my collection reflects that. Still, if need be, I could sell the collection and recoup a good deal of the money spent.

orca
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 hours ago

Nor will any after

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  orca
3 hours ago

alot of them don’t get this, glad you pointed it out.

B125
B125
4 hours ago

Now they care about how “marginalized groups” are feeling about their social status. That’s a great way to describe it. That really seems to be the only thing that matters to the regime. Ironically, the opposite is happening as the “minority” numbers are going up. I’m observing that non-whites are increasingly failing to behave normally around white people in the professional world. They are extremely fake and awkward and just not fun to be around. It’s either that or they act like knockoffs of ghetto African American culture. It seems like the woke propaganda has left them permanently second guessing themselves,… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  B125
36 minutes ago

Regarding your 2nd to last point, all of these groups have “point people” – for lack of a better term – that give them a basic ground work of what Whites cannot get away with in most settings. two years ago I was attempting to get some paperwork at the local sheriff’s office civil division and there was a hispanic couple on line in front of me trying to tell the deputy that served them papers for an execution, that he was wrong in doing so. As I watched them, I noticed that the female was attempting to goad the… Read more »

WCiv911
WCiv911
7 hours ago

Aristotle.
3 modes of persuasion.
Ethos, pathos, logos.
Giggles is pathetic.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
2 hours ago

I have to snort when I hear Trump haters moan about what a great threat Trump is. The only things Trump really threatens are the illusions of his supporters.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
6 hours ago

The greatest Ruling Class switcheroo has been to substitute “wellness” and “values” for actual material progress. Mao with his 5-Year Plans and Stalin with his coal production quotas would have never understood this. Our grandparents would have been baffled too. Today’s collectivists have aligned societal goals around abstractions. Obviously Western living standards are declining. But it’s a threshold issue: living standards are high enough that the switcheroo works. This is the greatest paradox of our times. It will take an economic collapse to resolve it.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Captain Willard
6 hours ago

Or everyone’s favorite closing catchphrase from the Covidian tyranny, “Be Safe!”.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Mow Noname
6 hours ago

Next time I hear some female politician or bureaucrat prattling on about “keeping us safe” I am going to retch.

Vegetius
Vegetius
5 hours ago

Babble about values establishes the friend/enemy distinction while pretending not to, because exclusionary binaries are not nice, and therefore can only be used by those who do not share Our Values.

It’s like Aristophanes looked into the future and saw the Talmud.

Compsci
Compsci
5 hours ago

Now the point of a benefits plan is to increase employee wellness, which cannot be measured, only assessed. More importantly, there is no way to connect employer behavior to the result.”

Been there, done that. It finally got so bad at university that I simply stated upfront in consultation discussions: “If you can’t measure it, it doesn’t exist!”

”Assessment” without replicable metric is itself subjective, hence the reason most social studies are irreproducible (see: Journal of Irreproducible Results). 😉

mmack
mmack
Reply to  thezman
5 hours ago

I get it since for many people in leadership or management positions their default world view is “I MADE my decision, why in the Hell are you questioning it?” 😒 I myself, nowhere near a leadership or management position (perhaps I am at the lowest of rungs if I am), have to fight the feeling. “Hey, we set this plan up. Why are you changing it?” But, you too have a point. Way back in college I took a systems analysis class. My professor had a poster in front of their office that said “The most effective question to ask… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

Great Comment. My story: My platoon gave regular operations briefings to battalion and brigade commanders. They were fairly canned presentations of operational tempo [we were collecting ELINT across a hostile border]. One day the battalion S-3 decides we need to add a new metric to the briefing. It was some worthless chicken-sh*t thing that I just knew would take a mountain of work to compile each month. I explained to him the work involved and how little meaning and worth the metric would have. He pointed at the bars on my shoulders, then grinned and tapped the oak leaves on… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

When all the basic needs are taken care of, what we’re left with are vanity projects to keep everybody employed.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 hours ago

What do you think the split is now?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
2 hours ago

80/20 in favor of vanity projects.

orca
Reply to  thezman
4 hours ago

Let’s not forget the subset of “wellness” and its travelling partner—–“Mental Health”. Bodies are still oozing and the cries go out for more “mental health”….At once both unmeasurable AND undefinable.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Compsci
34 minutes ago

The king of objective metrics is alphabetical order. It’s all but historically arbitrary and signifies nothing, but we absolutely need it—to sort stuff.

(Without it, finding a book would depend on somebody remembering where they all are. You know what an asshole that guy is…from his depictions in fiction. Civilization is his unemployment. If he’s around, the apocalypse is winning. Look how smug he is!)

Everyone who’s done a bid in corporate knows: Management numbers are that kind of numbers.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
6 hours ago

Public life today is all adult toddlers with nukes, to keep it interesting

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 hours ago

Bam bam! Kamala make Russia go bam bam! Hee hee hee!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
6 hours ago

Another reason that charts have no impact on the plebes is that they are completely dinnumerable.

I’d estimate that at least 95% of AINO residents are completely innumerate.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
6 hours ago

Remember:

5/4ths of Americans have trouble understanding fractions.

105% of Americans report problems understanding percentages.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  mmack
6 hours ago

The CDC: some people have more than one personality, thats how the numbers add up. Trust the science

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

And our most venerated and idolized people, mouth breathing athletes who have 2nd grade educations, always give 110%. The blonde sideline reporter, (maybe they have all been replaced with WOCs ???), nods and smiles and goes back to the box to the commentators who tell you what you are watching as you watch it.

110% + a 2nd grade education (which is probably so degraded it isn’t worth reading to your children at night starting at 4), + a gaggle of dolts in suits for The Win!!!!

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

>100% registered voters cast votes in election-critical precincts. Few citizens are interested let alone complain. Women feel it is an awesome indicator of enthusiasm.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  mmack
4 hours ago

Please try to show some compassion. Many Americans, especially women and minorities, struggle to survive while living in fraction-and-percentage deserts.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
25 minutes ago

Maffs, they be discriminatin’ and stuff. 😡

RealityRules
RealityRules
3 hours ago

Wellness and Safety and Inclusion and Belonging … … Then there is the most evil and demonic one of them all – Psychological/Emotional Safety. As if a person has so forfeited their agency over their own mind and emotional center that StateMother must intervene anywhere and everywhere to protect someone who is totally defenseless. How sick is this society that so many are so sick that they embrace this state of being and the State that wants you to live in it? As for the spouting of these words, it is all performative. It is just a performance for the… Read more »

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
6 hours ago

xirl economics

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Jack Boniface
6 hours ago

Well if we don’t get Xirl Science anymore, we’ll have to make do with Xirl economics eh?

Anon701
Anon701
3 hours ago

I get your point, but … I’m not sure the other side is completely w/o merit. We care about the morale of guerilla fighters in purely masculine terms because moral/rage is what allows that force to continue to fight i.e., unlike a traditional army, each of those fighters can just wake up one day and decide to do something else / disappear into the general populace.

Ditto, albeit to a lesser extent, wrt the political class of Moscow. We care b/c Putin has more flexibility if the rest of the political class is firmly behind him.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
4 hours ago

Way back when Solomon described this way… a continual dripping on a very rainy day & a contentious woman are alike; whoever restrains her restrains the wind, and grasps oil with his right hand.
(I read ‘contentious woman’ as a BOT)

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 hours ago

This stuff is fun to think about, but wrt what turns the tide, you have to keep in mind the incredible material gains from the 19th century on. We don’t know the misery that makes men change. We might be locked into increasing insanity until that happens.

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7 hours ago

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Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
2 hours ago

Yep. Wellness and feelings are girl things. But they are possible only after the food gets on the table.