195 thoughts on “Interesting Times”

1.  it [the 2020 election] was an election that featured many never-before-seen anomalies. For example, Arizona, another swing state, saw a 38% increase in voter turnout. 

   I wasn’t surprised by that at all; I expected it going in. I’m convinced that in 2016 there were thousands of Clinton supporters (or perhaps merely Trump haters) who didn’t take the trouble to vote because they were sure Clinton had it in the bag. Four years later, they were saying “If that !@#$% wins again, it’s not going to be because I didn’t vote!”.
2. 1. Trump wins by a landslide
   2. Massive election fraud is discovered in the months after the election, however it failed to achieve the desired Harris win
   3. Air Force One goes down with Trump aboard before January 20th. due to “unexplained mechanical failure”.
   4. ???

3. The Spanish civil war: Preview of coming attractions.

   • Agreed. Z likes to draw parallels with the Russian revolution and the French Revolution, and there are certainly similarities. I think it’s going to be something more akin to a mix of the Spanish Civil War/Irish War of Independence. Currently reading a great old book on the Spanish Civil War. It’s a topic Americans know precious little about, and the little we think we know often comes from the perspective of the communists that fought. A fascinating aspect about the Spanish civil war was how the liberal republicans almost entirely joined the communists and anarchists against the church and traditionalist forces. An aspect we see all over the west today.

4. Learning that the phrase didn’t come from china has been like learning Santa isn’t real.

5. One little bit of interest lately is the performance of Trump’s media company stock,DJT over the past month or so. It’s nearly quadrupled and might portend a YUGE victory. Now what might be accomplished afterwards is the big question – probably not a hell of a lot, but. From my perspective, it at least would represent a big FU to all the libs***s in my and others lives. That’s worth a little something…

6. Freedom = .45 ACP
   Justice = .357 Magnum
   Liberty = 7.62×51
   Independence = 30.06
   Equality = .38 Special
   Free will = .22 magnum
   Self determination = 5.56×45

   • White ethnostate = Tsar Bomba

   • Or more concisely, “Politcal power power grows out of the barrel of gun.” Mao Zedong

7. Related:

   Don’t sleep on the election hijinks in the country of Georgia.

   To me, that op is an obvious globalist proof-of-concept for the US.

8. OK, Gretch ‘the Wretch’ Whitmer gets a mention here. Way to be, Wretch!

   Maybe for Halloween this year Gretch will dress up as someone who’s been kidnapped.

   With a face like hers, no need to buy skeery masks. Dayum, woman.

   Kammie is just a cipher, of course. Generic ofcolorfemale, virtue-box checked. She’s two or three levels removed from anybody who has real power in DC.

   Trump is an Eighties liberal with a Prog daughter who manipulates him mucho. We’ll see real quick if a couple Introduction to Rifles courses have made a salesman into a warrior. Is he going to Keep Making Deals or join us here in reality?

9. It doesn’t hurt my feelings to hear that the Chinese didn’t say “May you live in interesting times” It’s too good for them. I would be more than happy for Western Civilization to take credit for that. That just leaves the two other “Chinese” quotes that are even better.

   “May the authorities become aware of you.”

   “Kill the chickens to scare the monkeys.”

   We have to make those English.

10. I’m fully convinced Trump is winning, but for reasons somewhat outside yours.

    There are forces in action that are inevitably leading to bad ends. This is regardless of who is in office. First and foremost, Russia is going to win favorable terms in the Ukraine conflict in the next two years (tops). This is unavoidable. The west is going to find the terms repugnant because it will be all of the demands the Russians have stated clearly over and over. With trump in office, the news will bleat over and over how Trump bent over for the Russians because he loves Putin. Russiagate 2.0, the reboot. There will be a recession (we’re likely already in one), Trump certainly isn’t going to cut back the deficit much, so that national debt and international dedollarization is going to continue. If a pile of foreseen disasters land in the trump presidency, they can kill populism once and for all, and pave the way for Newsome or Whitmer.

11. The owner of the LAT is Patrick Soon-Shiong. Born and raised in South Africa, he makes his billions off of Abraxane, used to treat breast, lung, and pancreatic cancer. So the man has certainly done some very good things.

    His daughter, Nika, is the one who axed the endorsement of Harris. She is very angry at Harris over the lack of action to punish Israel over Gaza and the Palestinians.

    Now, despite being born in South Africa, no one would confuse either her father or herself as anything but Han Chinese. Why does a Han Chinese woman whose father is a billionaire get angry over Gaza? The same reason the Filipino daughter of a Philippines TV billionaire gets angry over Gaza at UPenn and leads the student protests over it.

    Status. White dudes have been chased away from power and status in LA since Mayor Yorty left. Sine the 1960s. Rather it has been the Saturday people that these daughters of powerful Asian billionaires resent. And that realignment has been happening with astonishing speed. The coalition of the Ascendant: Alphabet plus people, billionaire asians, blacks, muslims etc. have decided to vote Saturday people off the island. Who in turn have boarded the Trump liferaft. Example: Hollywood went from being run by Saturday people to being run by black and alphabet people in about the past six years.
    Steven Speilberg can’t do his Blackhawks movie or a Star Wars movie, Leslye Headland, Weinstein’s former personal assistant, gets a Star Wars series.

    [Related: the NYT has prep articles demanding Biden invoke martial law, refuse to certify Trump if he wins, and do a Fujimori self-coup.]

    • Few things are more entertaining, or more emblematic of Clown World, than the trust fund heiress with her fist in the air

    • Who directs a flop /= running Hollywood. The studio owners/financers get to choose who directs, and the studios are still owned/financed by Saturday people.

12. Two possibilities—aside from the obvious, the TV simply lying about the result. (The courts have held that media calls are final election results, criminal to dispute.)

    One: Trump has been sufficiently neutered that he’s allowed to be seen winning the vote, though not by the amount he really wins it, which is too hot for TV. The fraud is to conceal a landslide, not to defeat it. There are signs of this, of Trump having been made acceptable (with a bullet), widely noted by both sides (black- and white-pilled). Righties who keep one foot in nerdy respectability will credit their clever-boy but actuallys, like Whitmer and Shapiro not having their hearts in the steal, etc. They are wrong.

    The question then is how soon they kill Trump after the election, to get on with “Trumpism without Trump” and Make America Indian Again. I say Christmas. There’s no betting market that will let me wager on this. Libertarianism refuted.

    Second scenario: This time, rather than pissing around again with pretending there was an election and the capital is under siege and staging weird horror-movie night rallies to install their favored Democrat, the military simply rolls on Mar-a-Lago, and shortly thereafter on the rest of us.

13. Words have meanings…or they are supposed to. Z’s use of the word shenanigan instead of fraud is disturbing. I asked 8 friends if the word shenanigan meant a prank…all said yes. We have been taught that it is a trick you play on someone. Instead ,the synonyms are deceit,dishonesty,devilry,unscrupulous. I’m not buying that shenanigan is a synonym for FRAUD.

    • In a similar vein I prefer that people recognize that the kinds of immigration levels happening will result in the termination of white peoples and are therefore genocide. And should be called exactly that. We’re on the receiving end of a genocide. Call the Beast by its name. And say it

    • My adhd got me caught up wondering if “shenanigans” would be singular or plural.

14. 1) voting is pointless; it’s still rigged and fake and gay.
    2) i hope trump wins so as to hopefully ease cost of living and avoid WWIII nukes flying; and put RFK in power
    3) there will probably be terrible media and police sanctioned BLM/Antifa rioting again
    4) Trump will again be stymied by the cathedral at every turn; they may engineer an economic collapse to make him the fall guy
    5) Trump cannot and will not save America. Too far gone for that.

    • Trump is as much to blame for inflation as Biden and everybody on Capitol Hill. He isn’t going to fix it.

15. Just because Trump is elected doesn’t mean that there will be a second Trump presidency, or that it will last very long. I think the Deep State is entirely capable of an assassination or a coup.

    • I’m not sure Vance would betide fairer winds for the Power Structure, though. He may actually be a shrewd enough politician to get some semblance or a rightwing agenda through.

16. Im not going to change horses now; i still say they won’t allow Trump to win. But maybe that’s playing 3D in a 5D game.

    I did find WaPos surprising neutrality to be a good omen. People always say WaPo is the CIA s newsletter and what they want really matters. Maybe some nefarious people have gotten afraid that the others are so dumb and reckless that this could end in sarmats coming in over the South Pole. And decided they don’t like the prospects of that, after all

    • Why would a sarmat come over the South Pole? Isn’t that the long way around?

      • Most US radars and missile defense systems are pointing north and out over the ocean. No one is expecting ICBMs from the south. But if it goes into basically orbit it can glide to anywhere on earth. Including the longer way south

17. One neat little factoid is that JD Vance’s wife is Vivek’s first cousin.

    Vivek and Usha’s mothers are sisters.

    Vivek’s mother, Geetha Chilukuri Ramaswamy, is sister to
    Usha’s mother, Lakshimi Chilukuri.

    (Vance’s real last name is Bowman.)

    • Vance named his middle child Vivek. I found this 3 month old msm article about what good buddies JD and Vivek are, but no mention of cousins.

      JD And Usha Vance Have Closer Ties To Former Trump Rival Vivek Ramaswamy Than We Realized (msn.com)

      Ramaswamy’s parents immigrated from India to Cincinnati

      Vivek Ramaswamy Parents: Vivek And Geetha Ramaswamy (wealthypeeps.com)

18. Like him or hate him, Trump is the most consequential political figure of this century so far.

    Would agree he is the most consequential American political figure of this century. But Putin and Xi have legitimate claims too.

    • Putin is a much more consequential political figure of this century than Trump. I wouldn’t even consider them in the same league. Putin brought his country back from a humiliating defeat/collapse and economic malaise to become a world superpower again in around 20 years. Other than intangible items like ‘waking up the normies’ or bringing attention to the Deep State, what has Trump actually done? Genuine question, how could you even compare the two?

    • Matt… Make a stand… get off the proverbial fence. It’s Trump …period!

19. The changes to our voting system have made fraud easier than ever and harder than ever to prove. Plausible deniability is built into the system, as in 2020. It is the joker in this year’s presidential race.

20. “…as the base condition is assumed to be corrupt. We may never trust our elections again due to the 2020 shenanigans.”

    In general, a good commentary. However, I must maintain from a measurement standpoint, you can’t “adjust” for shenanigans. “Shenanigans” is basically noise, or error and as such unknown and therefore not “adjustable”. All you can do is expand your confidence intervals wrt electoral prediction—margin of error so to speak.

    Since the electoral effect of shenanigans is pretty much impossible to ferret out (and therefore measure) due to today’s judicial system indifference we must turn to other means to insure popular will prevails in the “franchise”. This means restructuring/improving the process, rather than challenging the corrupted results.

    The current means Rep’s are using to circumvent—really overcome—cheating by the Dem’s is to attempt to swamp the Dem’s with votes at the polls, using increased registration, early voting, and such. They’ve in essence bought into (accepted) the current corrupt process and use campaign tag lines such as, “beat the cheat” and “too big to rig”! Unbelievable, and short sighted. As Z-man has noted, the corrupt election process will adjust to produce the *new* number of fraudulent votes needed—which is far easier than to produce new legitimate votes needed—to win an election.

    Now, none of the above—I admit—is likely, but is the only way to *fix* the current corrupt process. A “win” for the Rep’s in 2024 just buys time before the inevitable permanent decline into completely fraudulent elections into the foreseeable future.

    At this point I usually say, “Brazil here we come”, however that’s unfair to Brazil as their ballot process is less susceptible to shenanigans than ours in many ways….

    • As every pool shark knows, you have to let the mark win once in while to keep them in the game. I could very well believe they let this round go – it’s the only thing that makes sense in allowing Harris to run.

      • Same calculus operates in Vegas. Let the suckers have a little taste of the cheese from time to time to keep them coming back for more. Over the long haul, you’re still taking them to the cleaners, and how.

21. I agree with those who say voting doesn’t solve our problems long-term, and also agree that the rigging will only get worse and might make voting moot.

    That said, I suspect there might be an upper fraud limit, and also that Trump in office could buy us some more time to prepare for the worst. Going out to vote for the Orange Man won’t cost me much time, and I’ll get to see whether as many degenerates show up at the polls as when weed was on the ballot here. Could be interesting. So, at the risk of legitimizing the immoral system, I’ll participate one last time.

    I need all the prep time I can get before stuff breaks loose, if only to maximize my comfort in exile (whether internal or external). If we buy more time, then perhaps more good folks will manage to bug out, and/or form alternate communities. That has some value in my opinion.

22. I’ve posed this question to a lot of people, and havn’t received any halfway-decent responses. The U.S. has a $2 trillion dollar deficit sitting on top of a $35 trillion dollar national debt. It has persistently high inflation that it can’t solve without hiking interest rates much further, which it can’t do because then the economy would fall apart. 20 million illegals were let into the country in the last four years alone and there are 50+ million illegals overall.

    If Trump wins he will likely try for some actions – there *is* a national level intra-elite competition happening, which is below the level of our international central bank owning financial class control which is unified – but the fundamentals are locked in place. The Fed cannot raise rates and cannot lower them without major consequences. Trump will not evict 20 million illegals. In other words, his presidency if he wins will result in the continuation of neoliberal feudalism and a massive decline in people’s quality of life. If you have an argument against this, one that takes into account Trump’s first term (where the deficit ran at 1.5 trillion per year and he printed $11 trillion during fraudvirus and he evicted no one, where he pushed endless “legal” immigration) I am open to hearing it.

    This isn’t, of course, an argument in favor of the 90 IQ anti-white brown hooker, who is a joke of a candidate.

    My (quite pessimistic) analysis is here: https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/pre-election-framing-the-fifth-legal

    • Agreement that Trump, if victorious, will be the fall guy for the inevitable economic troubles to come, seems pretty widespread on the DR.

      • Yes, 100%. Remember the old saying , “Be careful what you wish for because you might get it.” If Trump becomes president again it is difficult to see how he accomplishes any more than he did in his first term. The debt and the deficit and the 30 million illegals will not disappear on Inauguration Day, nor will the Deep State that successfully backstabbed him for the past eight years.

        And about that wall he promised to build? LOL.

        Personally it has been my belief that they will let never him win again, either through voter fraud, an October Surprise, lawfare, or assassination. Or all of the above.

        I will nonetheless vote for him. If for no other reason it would be my middle finger to his enemies.

        • Personally it has been my belief that they will let never him win again

          I go back and forth on this. I understand the visceral hatred for him (or at least what he represents in their minds) is a strong force to stop his victory by any means necessary.

          On the other hand, he does serve useful purposes – especially for the tribe. Also, if tptb still desire some buy-in of the normie public, letting him win might be a convenient relief valve. Who knows.

    • Neo-Feudal, you are right: These problems cannot be fixed. But before the entire edifice collapses, a vote for Trump is a chance to give a middle finger to the folks who are responsible for the mess.

    • Warlordism akin to interwar China might be preferable to what actually goes down.

      Don’t discount the chance of a nuclear exchange or two causing holy hell for humanity.

23. When you’re running against Hitler you have a moral obligation to steal the election, with a clear conscience. Or, if you’re just saying he’s Hitler and don’t really believe it, then you’re a liar who is dishonest enough to steal an election. This was also true in 2020. Multiple D governed states, PA, MI, AZ, NC, and also R run GA have announced it will take days or weeks to count the vote. Does any R, let alone Trump, ever win when the counting takes days or weeks?

    OTOH Trump has always outperformed his polling, and this time his polling looks pretty good. And we get the signals from the clouds re: newspaper endorsements (isn’t it entertaining how much the priesthood at WaPo thinks their endorsement matters? How else will anyone know they are anti Trump?). It seems they will have a harder time convincing everyone it was legit if Harris wins than they did 4 years ago. So maybe they let him win and be the fall guy for the inevitable crash that’s coming. This view suggests, or requires, some ability to control the fraud from the top. But once you train and organize a democracy fortification army, you can’t just turn it off by flipping a switch. Unless you really do control the dominion machines.

    As I’ve posted before, I’ll vote Trump just to add one more to his popular tally, for the sole reason that this is the only legal means I possess to make shitlibs suffer. I do it for that reason alone. I don’t expect him to be able to change much for the better even if he sincerely tries, nor am I under any illusions that there can be any salvation or renaissance for this long dead republic. But if a Trump victory inspires the “left” to unrest that snowballs into the civil war that finally ends the evil empire, so much the better. And that’s a real possibility. You know the right isn’t ever going to start it.

24. Trump very well may be allowed to win, and it does not matter in the long term. Still there are good signs from the electorate, such as:

    1. Voters have blown off the warnings of incipient fascism. It may not be too long until they think the actual thing might not be so bad since the current form of totalitarianism does not work to their benefit. The important part is official propaganda is dismissed.
    2. Disgust with the system is widespread and deep.
    3. People largely tune out the noise–I think most actually don’t give a hot damn about the election outside of punishment one way or another.

    As Citizen points out above, this election or perhaps the next time will be the last election in which the GOP will be nationally competitive. That may be liberating. White people will be forced soon enough to decide how invested they are in the system, and if not very much, how to opt out of it. People are voting with their feet even now, and that only will increase after November 6 regardless of who wins or “wins.” The whites in the nomenklatura will be ousted soon enough (this explains some of the rogue elite), and they will become part of the unclean despite their best efforts. This is the final curtain for even the zombie version of the United States.

    • That has been on my mind too, that we are finally seeing some cracks in the WW2 mythology, the Hitler booga booga no longer carrying the weight it once did. Perhaps due to overuse. Really it’s rather impressive that it was effective for as long as it was. Hopefully I don’t have to hear too many more Neville Chamberlain comparisons.

      • Information velocity has decreased the shelf life of myth. For example, the claim that “we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here” draws derision in large part due inability to hide they are in fact here.

25. The destruction of public trust is intentional. Get everyone to hate everyone else and you get visceral anger begetting violence and mayhem. Then spin a media campaign that the plebs demand a return to order; and voila, in march the mercenary jackboots to save the day for a covert techno-tyranny. Next, ruthlessly crush dissent and lockdown the sheeple with a CBDC. That is our future unless we fight back. And not against each other, but focused on the root of the problem. Lamppost time.

26. More than usual, I’m looking forward to your writing and podcasting the next couple of weeks.

27. LanCo has the same problem as the rest of the country— Lancaster has been abandoned. In the last 10 or so years, it’s been turned into San Juan with high rise condos.

    The solution is simple but scary, I get it: take back the fucking cities, stop building burbs and exurbs and work-from-home redoubts. White flight is white genocide, to borrow a couple of terms.

28. ACT BLUE money laundering.

    Something like $80 million went into Kamala’s reelection campaign virtually overnight when she announced.

    There were then stories about how Act Blue was using FEC donor lists to launder cash via small donors.

    I checked my own info: to my incredible surprise, Act Blue piggybacked on my information to make a $.25 donation and another $25 donation back in 2019. (I’d donated to Trump when I was ticked about the impeachment crap)

    Catching and jailing those responsible should be TRIVIALLY EASY. It’s just comparing databases. There’s probably billions that have been masked by this.

    Check out the link. You might be surprised.

    https://checkmydonation.org/

    • Just checked out my name— My name is not too uncommon, so I saw a number of contributors in other states, but none of my small contributions to Trump this cycle or to the Senate race in Texas. I will check again

      • There are three Americans with my name. We all have almost the same job, close enough that we get each other’s mail. We’re not related, but… The subset of anthropologists (or whatever) who hide their race science! behind surname tracking would be pleased.

        We’re all ActBlue donors. I’m a registered Democrat, and in my state you can look me up and see that I VOTED.

        White pill: Election fraud has so polluted their enemies lists, it’ll keep some of us out of summer camp. Viva!

29. I posted this here last week, but posting again for those that didn’t see it. Might post again later in the week too:
    It’s my impression that some people here don’t intend to vote, either on the perception that it’s a waste of time because it makes no difference (policy never changes no matter who is in office, they’ll rig it anyway with fake votes), or because it actively harms by giving legitimacy to and participating in the GAE.

    But I do invite anyone reading this to vote, especially if you are registered (or can still register) in a battleground state.

    1. Obviously 2017-2021 didn’t “make America great again”, but it did slow down the constant hate-driven anti-normal-people warfare of the Obama and Biden regimes

    2. There are ways a Trump presidency will make a tangible difference. One example: if Cackles wins, the nightmare will continue and perhaps worsen for the Jan 6th prisoners (as well as the zersetzung of so many others like Guliani, Eastman, etc). If Trump wins, the Jan 6ers will probably be released. Those literally tortured good people deserve that.

    3. Even if the Leviathan is gonna Leviathan no matter who is gets elected, most people on all sides interpret a vote for Trump as a middle finger to the Beast

    4. It’s a two or three hours if you have long lines, but for me and probably many others, it’s like half an hour. You could easily spend more time dealing with a clogged sink on a given day.

    To me, consistently each election voting for the candidate available who is closest to “based”/the populist right is like putting a tool away after using it rather than leaving it out on the counter, or taking a break during the work day to walk around the block instead of play a game on one’s phone. By itself, it’s not going to change much, but living a good life consists of many small actions like that. We can all wait for an American Pinochet suddenly arriving and in one grand swoop setting everything straight. But, meanwhile, what are the actions, however small, that we can take in the war.

    The regime has been hemorrhaging legitimacy for years now, and I suspect that they would probably rather let Trump win the election (and turn to other efforts) than resort to obvious rigging.

    Also, for people in non-swing states – many libs make a big deal out of the total national popular vote, and there’s armies of just-nationalized peasants in big cities who can’t speak English and are on public assistance to run up their numbers. You could help counterbalance that.

    • I would say Point 1 is incorrect. The first Trump term did not slow down the insanity, it inspired the “left” to increase it. In fact, the 2016 result was the thing that really mentally broke them and sent them over the edge. This suggests a “lie down and take it, they’ll be harder on you if you fight” mentality, but they’re so deranged now that it doesn’t really matter anymore whether or not you “fight,” they will be vindictive either way.

      • In 2021-2024, the Federal Dem regime has taken huge steps towards destroying the country –
        1. importing who knows how millions criminals and other peasants and spreading them around swing states, extra-white states, and sparsely populated red states
        2. use the FBI, DOJ, and other mechanisms to jail and otherwise destroy right wing public figures and activists
        3. spending trillions we don’t have and triggering a massive spike in inflation
        4. spending money on DEI bs instead for say infrastructure
        5. dooming the US economy by forcing the rest of the world out of the dollar-based world economy with stupid sanctions on Russia because Bill Browder and Larry Fink want to make money off of the resources of the Ukraine (and Russia itself).
        A Hilary 2017-2021 regime probably would have done many of the same things, except four years earlier.
        1 and 2 would not have happed if Trump had been allowed to win in 2020, 3 less so, 4 less so, and 5 probably not.

        • Points 2, 3, and 4 were all going full speed during the Trump admin. 5 also, to some extent. Point 1 is the only one where Trump stops the bleeding, but after the last 4 years it’s already too far gone to matter.

        • Easily fixed, however, if Trump is ruthless enough…That Pentagon order about using the military against American citizens (illegal of course under Posse Comitatus) would come in handy against these alien invaders….Ike used a General to deport 1.4 million Mexicans in 4 months…

          • Posse Comitatus probably does not apply to using the military against illegal aliens…

      • The Biden regime FedGov arrested, prosecuted, and jailed normal people like you and me for walking outside the capitol building, praying, posting memes, and going to school board meetings. The Trump admin did none of those things. There is a difference.

        • Yes. The Biden regime understands the friend/enemy distinction. The Trump regime doesn’t and that’s why even if he wins, he will lose.

      • That was not a bad thing at all…Trump brought them out of the shadows, and exposed their ultimate plans….

      • Yes, so bring it, muhf**kers, I want our people riled up, aware, and pissed.
        This slave mentality shit has got to go.
        In our time, not our grandkids time, we’re going to take the hits.

        We account for 8% of global population, but white kids are at 3%.
        Half of the next generation is sterile, so we’re already dead men.

    • I’m not voting for Trump because I refuse to reward treachery and incompetence.

      2017-2021 was an unmitigated disaster and a complete and total wasted opportunity.

      Because the right refused to shun that orange clown after he left office, it tells me all I need to know about it’s character.

      i feel a total sense of alienation from the stupidity and lack of seriousness on the right.

      i fully expect 2025-2029 to be even worse than his first term, to be followed by a complete electoral wipe-out for the right Election Day 2028.

      The right is simply too dumb to ever achieve anything and you basically deserve to be replaced.

      • Got a few members of the Blackpill Lives Matter movement here today I see

        • The ultimate defeatism is the belief that worthless clown is the only thing that can save us.

          • Well, if Israel get stomped, those poor little old grannies will need more than a meal, they’ll need plane tickets and your house.

      • “Replaced” by you?

      • I prefer Trump but also think he is completely unreliable. Because I live in California, which Trump could not carry even if he ran against Vlad the Impaler, I could vote third party without fear I was throwing the state to harris.

        • Hey Vlad is best known for forcibly removing invaders from the South in the name of protecting his nation. He might be an improvement over Newsom.

      • We will see about that.

    • Even though I have little to no faith that the result of the election will make any difference, I hope Trump wins just to spite our enemies.

      The Leftist freaks will have a meltdown if Trump wins.

      • Some of them will probably die from cardiovascular events, and I am not joking. So, in a sense, the only legal way of offing those vermin is by electing–if it’s still possible–politicians who send them uncheckable paroxysms. This may be the only reason to vote. And that said, I’m still undecided on whether I’ll go to the polls on election day.

        • The land whale-ettes who expire in front of their computer screens might number in the thousands.

        • Same-same. The mouse flipping the finger to the eagle.

      • Just look at what happened last time. If Trump wins much the country will go stark raving mad.

        • Well, it’s stark raving mad already, but your point is duly noted.

      • Think of how many have promised to leave the county if Trump wins. Addition by subtraction! Of course, none of them are going anywhere except back to their luxury mansions.

30. regardless of the fraud by dems, there is the problem of the gop being complicit (if not outright colluding) with the dems, in creating an oligarchical system. that makes the cheating a cafeteria food fight.

    • Yep. Mitch McConnell announced recently that he expected the GOP Senate would spend more time fighting Trump than Democrats. That told me that McConnell thinks there is at least a possibility Trump would be allowed back into office, so it is necessary to pre-announce his opposition to anything someone ostensibly in his own party may propose.

31. The only thing that matters is preserving the American Nation (the American people). This includes not just our people as a majority but also our local territories. This means a total halt to immigration and mass peaceful deportation as well as whatever-is-required cartel uprooting and banishment.

    Clearly Trump is the only hope for that. Even if he wins, it isn’t a guarantee. Do Americans have the will? Does Trump and his new friends have the will? Do they even have the desire?

    • That is all a pipe dream. If they even allow Trump, he will deport no one. Violent negros will get more platinum plans and juice will get even more preferences and protections. Meanwhile, working class Whites will get squeezed further and life will get harder.

      there’s no political solution and the good guys don’t always win.

32. I am only barely interested enough in this upcoming election to read Zman’s commentary on it. In terms of policy, it is irrelevant who wins. The country and the culture will continue spiraling in the same perilous direction regardless of who the Puppet-in-Chief is. The main effect of a Trump victory will be to fool people into believing we’ve miraculously reversed course. Our momentum will nevertheless remain unchanged. If anything, should Trump prevail, it might actually hasten that momentum by breathing more life into the progressive animus that plays such an important role in our trajectory.

    No man on a white horse will be riding in to save you.

    • I bet I win the most downvotes today. Even so-called dissidents can’t help but fall for the “vote harder” ruse. It seems that a mere handful of us have advanced to the other side of the farce known as electoral politics — the side where we reject the dog-and-pony show outright, if for no other reason than to avoid being played for a sap. More of you should come join the admittedly tiny few of us on this side. I promise you it’s not nearly as cold and frightening a place as you appear to presume.

      • I’m totally there, and I agree you will get lots of downvotes – but if you’re like me, you won’t care. What counts is acknowledging reality, not upvotes from people high on hopium. “If we just get the right people in office . . . ” “Trump will clean house . . . ” etc. Demographics are destiny. Mestizos are not White. Indians (like Usha Vance) are not pro-White American patriots. AINO is about 53% White. But go ahead and knock yourselves out folks, and vote harder yet again.

      • This is where I am. I refuse to provide any legitimacy to this farce of a country. The best outcome might even be her being installed under dubious circumstances.

    • WK,
      You can hold all you positions and still vote in each electoral cycle.
      The delusion is thinking that it is an either or problem instead of a both and problem.

      Yes, there is no savior coming. Yes, local affairs and local organization are your most important efforts. It still doesn’t mean that opting out of the National Political Show is the smart thing to do. It is literally the least you can do – casting a ballot.

      • Even if the election mattered (which it doesn’t) . . . the odds of my one vote affecting the outcome of a presidential election are probably roughly the same as me winning the lottery. I don’t play the lottery. And I don’t vote. I know the odds.

        Voting is mainly about the ego of the voter. It’s about little people who don’t matter much getting to believe for a moment that they are consequential. They are not. The technocrats who dominate the system will do what they want independent of any suggestions from the peanut gallery.

        • I don’t know …. The technocrats seem to really not want Trump ….

          • No. The technocrats seem to really want you and I and everyone else to beLIEve that they really don’t want Trump. These despots are pathological liars. Why would you buy any of their poses or pretenses? It seems to me that they value Trump quite immensely — as he so readily plays the Emmanuel Goldstein role they’ve fashioned for him.

            The world is not as it has been presented to us.

    • This. But Z’s commentariat definitely skews civnat when it comes to ‘the system’ and ‘vote harder.’

      • I salute you, 3g4me. By and large, most folks who are interested enough in these topics to read about them will feel a need to continue investing in the, as you rightly dub it, “hopium” of voting. I try not to condescend to such believers. Their faith in the system against everything else that they know is a bit innocent and charming to be honest. However, it’s hard not to sneer at Charlie Brown after the millionth or so time he’s missed that football Lucy was holding for him.

        • My view is just that – Charlie Brown and the football. After months of ZMan posts and thousands of comments about how corrupt the polls are how corrupt the media is, how debased the voting registration system is, etc., people still just cannot break those bonds instilled and reinforced throughout their lives: That their vote matters, and that we live in a ‘democracy’ where Joe. Q. Voter ‘chooses’ the country’s leader. And even if it were all true, that anyone could change the trajectory at this point.

        • For many of us who are considering voting, faith in the system or belief in Trump has nothing to do with it. Our rationale is far baser. On the off chance that the vote isn’t subverted profoundly enough to fortify Our Democracy, and Trump therefore does return to the Anti-White House, our enemies will be in mortal agony. I know this. I have family members who will be in dire jeopardy of miocardial infarction if Trump wins. This alone may be ample justification for going to the well one more time. Then again, maybe not. I remain squarely on the fence. At any rate, not everybody on our side who votes is a credulous sap.

          • Ostei:

            Your comment runs parallel to my view that Trump is a middle finger for both his most passionate supporters and his fiercest haters. His haters think that the middle finger is pointed at them which is egotistical, as most such people don’t register on Trump’s radar.

            Now I will admit to having been guilty of road rage a few times in my past. When I was much younger and more cavalier, I even flipped the bird to other drivers maybe three or four times. There was a brief satisfaction in such action. The vindication was nevertheless short-lived. And my infrequently extended middle finger did nothing to improve the general state of driving.

            I have no objection to you voting purely out of spite. I just don’t see much utility in it myself. But have at it if that is your wont.

          • I find the possibility of ripping on Trump for the next 4 years much more delightful than ripping on Harris. I am bored with Dem antics, time for a new act on stage.

      • Ouch!

        • Sorry, I’m not trying to attack anyone personally (although too many seem to take it that way). I just call it as I see it. I share people’s rage and desire to somehow ‘spite’ the left. I just don’t think a vote is going to do that. My contempt for the system and commitment to deliberate separation from it is greater than any sense of vindication I might get by participating in the theater.

      • You’re keeping it real and you’re right. The election is a rigged and meaningless game

        • But that’s just it – it’s a game. Did you not read the fine print on your ballot “This ballot is for entertainment purposes only”

33. I would expect a strong increase in voting if you only have to mail in the ballot as opposed to being forced to drive to a voting booth. The number of legitimate ballots being mailed has the added benefit of being able to stuff far more fraudulent ballots without being noticed.

34. A much bigger question than “Will there be shenanigans” is “Will someone more competent than a mongoloid on a slanted roof take another shot at Trump”? He’s going to need the papal plexiglass bubble from now on. He might also want to keep someone around as a burger-tester, maybe Lloyd Austin or Mark Miley since both men look like they can put them away.
    If I were one of Trump’s enemies right now, I would frankly be very, very worried about the possibility of him being killed. Trump is the first American politician in my lifetime—maybe the only one—to have genuine organic support among the people.
    I personally hope that Trump turns out to be motivated primarily by a desire for revenge, that all the paranoid fantasies of the Dems are realized in early January. The idea of seeing Rachel Maddow manacled in some rat-infested Bastille warms the cockles of my heart. Actually, if Trump were to deport everyone at MSNBC, the New York Times, and The Atlantic, quite a few of America’s problems would go away. One sh*tlib or neocon does more damage than a thousand Venezuelan gangbangers, or a hundred Haitians roasting Jack Russel terriers over rotisserie spits.
    It’s all frankly sad, as it really didn’t have to come to this. There are far fewer Halloween decorations around my neighborhood this year than last, or the year before that. You know people’s faith / the social capital is at an all-time low when people can’t even work up enthusiasm for Halloween. Then again, because my ‘hood is working class, people actually have to budget those big lawn displays and plastic pumpkins filled with candy into their budgets. This is of course misinformation, though, as Paul Krugman informs us the economy is thriving. My misinformation is also, no doubt, anti-Semitic.
    As to whether or not political violence is on the horizon, we’ll know soon enough. If antifa begins rioting, causing billions of dollars of damage and razing cities to rubble, we’ll know everything’s a-okay. If some grandmas in their Rascal mobility scooters with little American flag pendants start going to the Capitol to protest the results of the election, we’ll know we’re in the grips of fascism.

    • “MSNBC, the New York Times, and The Atlantic”
      Literally the exact three main “information streams” my boomer parents spend hours being brainwashed most days 😩

      • Spent the weekend with the folks: They watch Newsmax.

        Agitprop? Of course!

        Also: no race mixing or non-traditional couples in the advertisements.

        So that was nice.

        • In chess terms, normies are the pawns. And as any good chess player knows, pawns, when used correctly, are the most powerful pieces on the board. A bunch of normies showing up in the Capitol to take selfies scared our rulers more than decades of Larping by the Richard Spencer / Stormfront types. There’s a lesson there for anyone not too daft. Forgive me for sounding a little Frank Capra-ish/Pollyannaish (Christmas is still a couple months away) but honest and decent people can defeat powerful forces if those forces have grown degenerate and lazy enough in their corruption. We seem to be reaching some kind of push-comes-to-shove inflection point moment.

          • The second prong required is a rogue elite element, and that seems to be forming.

          • honest and decent people can defeat powerful forces

            They possibly can, but it requires them to do nothing. Literally. As in completely drop out of the society run by those forces. Out of their economy (a particularly difficult one), social circles, volunteer organizations, entertainment industry, etc.

            It’s lot harder to do “nothing” than you think it is. Possibly the best “bang for the buck” dropping out is military service (voluntary or conscripted, although I think conscripted would concern them more).

          • That sounds suspiciously like John Galt.

          • But it’s “hard to do” for a reason. Doing nothing sucks.
            We are social creatures. We love our families and communities. We want them to do well and thrive. We don’t want to abandon them.

            Doing literally nothing is really not possible. In order to support yourself, you have to pay taxes and support them. Such a large portion of our enemies either work directly for some level of government, or at most 2 connections away from directly working for government. Take HR workers. Theoretically they work mostly in the private sector. But if not for government regulations and rules, there would be no need for a big HR department. They are parasites.

            I’d like to see mass peaceful orderly protests in places like DC with at least a million people carrying plastic toy pitchforks and LED battery operated torches. How would they react to such a symbolic protest, I have no idea. But it would send the message that patience is wearing thin.

          • It’s all pro wrestling.

            Normies are the marks.

            Dissidents are the smarks (smart marks).

          • Agree..I didn’t want it to be but it is. More people are beginning to realize America has been hijacked by the same types who throughout human history have always brought misery & death.
            My gut tells me Trump will be the next president, if he is still alive Jan 20th. As there are a thousand Ozwalds out there.
            The deep state has its ways
            It must be annihilated

        • I am not aware of any major English language news outfit that isn’t pure propaganda. Americans and English speakers in general are awash in propaganda.

    • I certainly hope Antifa starts rioting…because I believe that tolerance for those clowns has pretty much evaporated…If a few of their leaders met their demise, I think the whole movement would evaporate….

    • Halloween is dying because it has become National Gibsmedat Day for the little coonlets, and as often as not, varmints considerably longer in the tusk.

      • That’s the social element I mentioned. Robert Putnam, author of “Bowling Alone” noted the “trick or treater” effect, but of course had to ignore the cause. He knew diversity and social cohesion are inversely correlated, but also knew he wanted to be put up in nice hotels and get decent speaking fees, and there’s only room in that ecosystem for one Charles Murray.

      • That and the stores here already put the Chinese plastic Christmas crap out last weekend.

      • We get around that by having our own neighborhood Halloween Festival the weekend before actual Halloween. Has worked out pretty well so far.

        • Good. But mum’s the word!

    • The idea of seeing Rachel Maddow manacled in some rat-infested Bastille warms the cockles of my heart.

      You’re gonna make me get all misty!

      • There outta be a lottery for who gets to put the noose on her neck.

    • Not out of the woods yet (knock on wood)

35. It’s likely the last real presidential election for legacy Americans. The demographics and voter fraud will be too much to overcome for any GOP candidate in four years, certainly in eight.

    The Harris campaign is run by incompetents, while Harris is stunningly terrible. Even Dems acknowledge this. Trump is the finest campaigners since, at least, Reagan. Yet, the race is still a toss-up.

    What happens in four years when you have more typical candidates? What happens in four years when Georgia, Virginia and Arizona are all a bit more Hispanic? What happens as white Boomers die off?

    What happens is the GOP loses no matter what. Maybe, just maybe, the GOP can pull off one more victory after Trump, one last Hail Mary, but, overall, it will be over. At that point, we move toward the next chapter in American history, a chapter where legacy Americans are marginalized and no longer have a say in who becomes the president and, thus, the Supreme Court.

    In a very real sense, the America that’s existed since the 1600s will be over.

    • Agreed except for the last full sentence. It’s been over for a long, long time.

      • True, but it’ll be official when the presidency (and thus the Supreme Court) becomes a one-party office.

        • Yes, that. Even the Zombie United States ends at that point.

        • And then we start seeing States like Texas and Alaska seceding…

          • Texas was officially 39.7% non-hispanic White in 2020. Today – easily down to 36%. All the old White repukes (backers of such ‘staunch’ cuckservatards as Kay Bailey Hutchison, John Cornyn, and Greg Abbott) are dying off. The state is chock full of Californians, Han, and subcons. No way Texas ever secedes.

          • @3g4me — Only if it’s to rejoin Mexico. 😉

          • You saved me the trouble. I will note, though, that Texas is vast and large swathes of East Texas and West Texas are unlike the state as a whole, so that does not preclude intrastate troubles and friction. Also, as dismal as it is, the cartels could effectively come to control the Rio Grande Valley and perhaps Houston (this already is happening on a limited basis). Texas is a deeply troubled state but Austin, as is the case with D.C., may find itself limited in exerting complete authority.

          • That’s exactly right. We can write off the Metroplex, Houston, Austin and San Antonio. But West Texas and rural North Texas still have a very large white population and there are plenty of Messkins who would, I believe, support secession rather than continued subserviance to the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire. Texas as a whole probably won’t secede, but it may very well fracture and what its component parts do is anybody’s guess. At any rate, utterly declarative statements about a very murky future should be subject to extreme doubt.

          • In addition to Texas, when you look at many if not most other states, you can see the same playing out. The first troubles, when they pop off, almost certainly will be intrastate. Places like Colony Ridge or the situation with Haitians in Ohio were supposed to mitigate the opposition, but over the long haul the invaders dumped into far-flung places will migrate to urban areas with more gibs. We absolutely are in uncharted water, but we can dimly see the lines developing. For all we know, to be clear, places being ungovernable are baked into the cake for the wannabe central planners.

          • Wow, Texas only a good third white. The times are even crazier than I can even imagine. Bur SoCal is the same and I can’t go back there. I don’t want to see it. It’s not the same country I knew many many years ago

          • 1/3 non-hispanic White in Texas

            Unfortunately, White hispanics (those with 85% or more European genetics) make up probably less than 10% of the hispanics in Texas. So would bump it to 40% White at most.

          • Through my husband, who spent most of his formative years in West Texas, I know quite a few half hispanics – and their one quarter children. Without exception, they identify as non-White, and not just for the AA bennies. South Americans who are 85% + often call themselves White, as much for social status as for racial and cultural identity. But they still don’t identify as American. But people see what they want to see.

          • “South Americans who are 85% + often call themselves White, as much for social status as for racial and cultural identity. But they still don’t identify as American.”

            A different kind of white — mostly Spanish, with maybe some Portuguese and Italian added in some cases. And certainly with the very different cultural framework of Latin America.

          • I’m not thinking of those who are Spanish/Italian – someone like Bolsonaro is 100% White European. I’m referring to the “whites” of Latin America and Mexico, who generally have 10-15% of Indo and sub-Saharan genetics mixed in.

          • As the federal govt becomes less competent and less respected by whites, I suspect that states or regions will take on more responsibilities. How far that goes is anyone’s guess.

          • Spot on. Equally importantly, the wherewithal for the juggernaut of a federal government won’t be there. Devolution is inevitable. At least to the level of individual states but possibly extending even further to more local modes of governance.

          • My prediction (which requires a hypothetical Trump victory) is that the first to go is Vermont. Or maybe Rhode Island. Perhaps even Oregon. Hawaii also a possibility. Heavy corporate presence in CA, WA, MA and other shitlib states would prevent them from seceding, at least initially.

          • Agreed. And once a precedent has been set…

          • No one will secede in a voluntary sense. It will just happen as a result of collapse of the central government, and then maybe only de facto and not de jure.

          • Agreed. But it’s the de facto that matters and ultimately brings the de jure along with it in due course.

        • It already is. The Uniparty. The notion of political pluralism is kabuki for the Grillers.

    • Seems to me that over decades political parties change their policies until they find something close to a 50%/50% split. No party is currently advocating repatriation of blacks to Africa or women not being able to vote (unfortunately), because they would get 5% of the vote, although those were within the Overton Window in the past. I’m having a hard time imagining exactly what policies the Republican party (or whatever the relatively right wing party is) will have to get ~50% of the vote in twenty years in a white-minority nation, but my guess is that they’ll come up with something.

      • Did the GOP come up with something in California?

        It will take decades for either party to fully realize that the Dems can’t lose the presidency. The GOP will simply think that it’s a bad run.

        • The GOP in California is completely irrelevant. San Diego County, which was the last stronghold. is now controlled by Democrats. The San Diego city council is all Democrats, the mayor is a homosexual part Filipino and even the County Board of Supervisors is majority Democrat.

          • That’s the black pill part as the the GOP died in California and they didn’t even care. All indications are that the national party would be the same.

        • The Republican party is a national entity. The California branch is more lib than the rest of the nation – no one running for the state legislature in a city or suburb is going to rum on putting the ten commandments in school rooms, or even repealing gay marriage – but isn’t going to have a completely different platform that the national one. I imagine that if California seceded and became it’s own nation, Repubs and relatively moderate Dems would probably form a party with a platform (something like, smaller reparations) such that it captured about 50% of the vote, with more radical Dems (massive reparations) in the other half.

          • I’ve been waiting on the conservative case for cash reparations to show up any day now

    • According to Armstrong’s AI model, the US starts breaking up after 2032, (which would be healthy IMO)…But it now thinks there is a good likelihood that there will be no elections in 2028 due to war breaking out as the neocons currently plan….
      I think the old America was destroyed by FDR, resuscitated by Ike in part, and permanently killed with the 5 bullets that killed JFK…

      • It’s been full-on cryptocratic government since Nov ’63. They closed the last loophope and then doing Bobby was the clarified message, we are incumbent now and all that innocence stuff is over.

      • I always listen to Armstrong but I wonder whether he really has that AI model (Socrates?).

    • This is a depressing prospect, but I think you’re right and it has me seriously considering what to do and where to go with the rest of my life. In another 20 years, I’ll be an old man. The prospect of spending the last decade or two of my life where nothing works in a country that hates me has me seriously considering if it’s worth leaving now before things get much worse. I know there really aren’t any good options as far as where to go, but I’ve traveled enough to know that there are many places better than what the U.S. is today. A part of me wants to stick around and fight because leaving feels weak, but the country seems too far gone for us to reverse any of the trends discussed daily on this blog. There’s also the prospect of the government confiscating whatever wealth I have while persecuting me for any wrongthink.

      • It doesn’t have to be a Mad Max scenario. Mexico still functions. Brazil still functions. A minority white US will still function. It’ll even have lots of places that remain pretty normal, i.e., pretty white.

        But, overall, it’ll be a crappier place with much more corruption, crime and inequality.

        • too optimistic because you underestimate on Insanity of Jews/blacks
          If Jews and blacks get one party state, then all the Masque charades stop, all kind disgusting human sacrifice will begin
          Jews and blacks gonna find a new way of torture and kill white men that even you gonna surprise at every year

          White people are an only ethnic group that produce social capital in the US, but that human resource going to be destroyed and be defunctionalized
          America becoming Mexico or Brazil is too optimistic, its gonna Zimbabwe like shit show

      • I think the best-case scenario is a complete collapse of the federal government and the states step in to take over most of its responsibilities, as the Founders intended. What reemerges is greatly weakened and stays in its lane (foreign policy, defense, coinage, etc).

        The worst-case scenario is nationwide anarcho-tyranny ruled by a certain small minority and administered by various dusky underlings. Imagine an incompetent and corrupt version of the Dominion from Star Trek DS9 with the tribe acting as the shape-shifting Founders, the talented tenth of various dusky Third Worlders as the Vorta and the sub-80 IQ remainder as Jem Hadar muscle to keep the rest of us in line.

        I’m personally hoping for option A. Let the shitlib states disintegrate into chaos.

      • I know there really aren’t any good options as far as where to go, but I’ve traveled enough to know that there are many places better than what the U.S. is today.

        I am unqualified to suggest what you should do, but I think there’s wisdom in comparing what you’ve seen with your own eyes to the fear propaganda that American pop culture and news puts out in order to make us afraid of the rest of the world. My first trip to Latin America came with severe culture shock, but the several subsequent trips have made it clear how unrealistic my initial risk assessment was. Now it feels more like the America of my youth than this place.

        White civilization is headed to the dust bin, thanks to the (((usual suspects))). We can go down fighting to the death, or we can accept it and do the best we can for ourselves.

        • I’ve lived in Lat. Am. almost a decade now. Far more traditionalist, sane and stable than most of New Amerika.

        • “the fear propaganda that American pop culture and news puts out in order to make us afraid of the rest of the world.”

          They simply don’t want Americans traveling outside US borders and seeing what the other 96% live like. So they try to inculcate fear.

      • It would be difficult to relocate to a non-English-speaking country and all of them are on the same path.

      • A part of me wants to stick around and fight because leaving feels weak, but the country seems too far gone for us to reverse any of the trends discussed daily on this blog. There’s also the prospect of the government confiscating whatever wealth I have while persecuting me for any wrongthink.

        You are 100% correct but read a couple posts here and you will see that there are 2 main elements at play here. Either a) people still holding onto some fantasy LARP “Alaska and Texas will secede from the Union“. Right 🙄 or 2) they are simply still in normiecon griller mode (Trump will save us!) in spite of all evidence pointing away from that being reality.

        At the end of the day it makes little difference whether you are self-deluded out of simple ignorance or existential terror it shows that even in dissident circles denial is strong AF. There is comfort in having hope, I get this, but no one is coming to save you.

        You sound like you have enough balls to take action and have a very sober and level headed understanding of the situation. I strongly advise you act on this.

        That paragraph I quoted in the opening you stated is my lived experience. I took a tremendous hit to my life and financial situation for nearly 10 years because I engaged in wrongthink in a extremely liberal hive zone. I was an ‘early adopter’ of anarcho-tyranny that we now see writ large across everywhere including those poor f-ckers rotting in the dungeon in DC for the J6 debacle.

        I was extremely resentful when this happened to me, losing 10 of my primary earning years and becoming unemployable due to criminal charges because you had the temerity to verbally offend a brown person is a very bitter pill to swallow. Today, I consider this a blessing in disguise because it gave me grim focus on a goal. Get out. Period. There is no future for the European descended in a place like that except as tax cattle and second class citizens. (See: South Africa)

        Also, there are nowhere near enough hard people to do the type of grim work required to right this ship which is another reason I simply opted out. Those few that take a principled stand receive NO support and are made example of. Why take the risk when you are surrounded by jellyfish and cowards? Like you, I have several decades to “old age” and simply refuse to spend the ‘Golden Years’ living as a hated minority in my own country surrounded by self-hating whites who gladly wear their chains.

        After nearly 5 years and tremendous effort and expense, I just completed my citizenship in a 2nd country and now have access to live in 27 other countries as well pretty much indefinitely. So for the US election, I hope we can do something dramatic and that Trump becomes the fascist they want him to be. If you are going to be accused of it anyways, may as well become the thing, right? But on the other hands, I spent 6 months this year living abroad and hearing different (European) languages so part of me has a “not my problem” outlook too.

        You will hear many people tell you (even some in this very topic) that things are f-cked all over the place and just as bad. That is a lie told by people who haven’t been anywhere. I have 6 stamps on my passport that tell a different story through lived experience. Are these perfect places? NO! There is no such a thing, you will trade one set of problems for another anywhere you go. But dodging omnipresent negro violence in every major city, a population that hates itself and wishes to commit slow suicide, and complete tribal control of the nation are not on the list in many places.

        • Lack of tribal control solves myriad other problems. Funny that.

        • Good comment full of uncomfortable truths.

    • “…the race is still a toss-up…”

      Don’t believe the polls. That is the first problem. They are all bought and paid for. He who pays the piper calls the tunes, as they say. You will in this week see them close in upon the winner. That is because they are at this point ineffectual for what the were paid to “predict” and are attempting to recoup some semblance of credibility for the next electoral season. This is common and understood.

      For example, in 2016, one national poll had Clinton 10-12 points ahead of Trump 10 days prior to Election Day, then began to issue updates showing Trump gaining. By the day before election the had Clinton ahead by a couple of points—margin of error. Those in the business knew there was no such thing as such a change so fast in public opinion ever recorded—short of a Black Swan event.

    • The only way to prevent this is a massive deportation of all those here illegally or who have obtained citizenship fraudulently. This will require massive law enforcement, possibly the military, possibly lethal force, ignoring judicial orders, and arresting those who obstruct the process (including Republicans). It will require removing those in the federal bureaucracy who obstruct the process (there will be large numbers). The corporations that fund both parties will oppose the program. Does anyone think that Trump has the gonads implement such a plan? Remember, he couldn’t even deport the Dreamers, who are blatantly here illegally. Of course, his nitwit daughter and son-in-law would have the vapors he if he proposed such a plan and he listens to them and their stupid advice.

      • Getting rid of even 10% of the invaders would move the country to the right.

      • Yes he is unduly influenced by both, especially princess daughter.

      • I never thought Trump was serious about controlling immigration. Why should he be? His businesses benefit from cheap labor as much as any–probably more, considering the demographics of the typical hotel housekeeping staff. Trump talks the talk, and that’s enough to get him the support (and the opposition) he does, because nobody else does even that,

    • 2016 was the supposed to be the start of this shift, TV anchors openly gloated that changing demographics were making the GOP irrelevant. Bush was supposed to be the last white male president, ever.

      Trump threw a wrench in those plans by ignoring the normal GOP script, gaining millions of untapped working class white voters.

      By 2028 (unless Trump deports 40 million people), the demographics will be so dire that even with the working class whites coalition, the GOP will not be competitive.

      Trump himself is just a blip in the radar, but what he did do was stir up discontent among the white Dirt people. Whom were previously just sliding into irrelevancy in silence. It will be hard to put that anger back into the bottle. Trump will reverberate for at least a generation, but it remains to be seen what the impact is.

      • Trump is inadvertently waking up a lot of whites to the fact that the system is rigged and hates them. So far, those whites remain good colorblind CivNats and only think of reforming the system. My suspicion is that they’ll stay that way. They’ll be Christopher Rufo types.

    • What happens is the GOP loses no matter what.

      MHO: The pretense of the two party system is dropped and the GOP goes the way of the Whigs. But, in its place, the Dems become like the Communist party (that is, officially there is one party, with various factions vying for power/position within). In a sense, we already have that with both parts of the uni-party now. In that case, everything shifts to the primaries as the consequential election, the main election being mostly for show if it continues at all. Of course, this is pretending that elections matter.

      I hear that in the before times, Texas had a very split Democrat party with a rather sizable conservative wing.

      Where to White man? Perhaps one of the Democrat factions that survives begins courting us.

      • Not likely. The Dems, whatever wing, are the anti-Badwhite party. I suppose that it’s possible that a wing of the Dems could go after blue-collar voters, which would include whites, but there won’t be much enthusiasm.

36. I think the biggest procedural issue is whether you assume the fraud (which is a given at this point) is bottom-up or top-down. 2020 was bottom-up. It was an emergent phenomenon — various poll workers Did What They Had To ™ in order to Save Our Democracy ™; had the shenanigans taken place somewhere like Venezuela, even the Left would’ve laughed at how transparent it was. My contention has always been that it’s psychologically impossible for the Left to go all-in on top-down Fortification — “we don’t rig elections,” the emotional logic runs, “because that’s what BAD people do.” The most they’ll ever do top-down is what I think they’ll do after December, or whenever Al Franken’s car shows up with enough Harris ballots in the trunk to install her: Australia-style mandatory voting. That way, the people who Do What They Have To Do ™ will only need to tweak the algorithms a bit — the counts will be over by 11pm on Election Night, and it was a squeaker, but hey, whaddaya know, the Democrat won. Again.

    • Why can’t it be both? It’s not a coincidence that the needed to win districts in the swing states went their way, usually after a break and reset in counting. That indicates top down. But make no mistake, you know that many a local Shaniqwa, Lupe and Becky took it upon themselves to ensure lots of ballots were fortified for democracy. This go around the question will be how much top down will be used, but I don’t have any doubt there will still be a metric ton of bottom up from the left because after all, they are battling literal moustache man.

    • No reason to go to such lengths. Demographics will ensure a Dem victory soon enough. Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina will continue to become more Hispanic and less white. Sooner or later, they will go blue, and it’s over.

    • I think it was a blend of both in 2020. Ballot harvesting in PA, for example, is a top down institution at this point. It has been going since before Trump arrived in 2016. It energized and augmented in 2020 by the groundswell of “By Any Means Necessary” activism. In a place like Georgia it was mostly bottom up, helped by official incompetence.

      Institutional vote rigging is a double edge sword. In Mass, when Kennedy died, they had a special election to fill the seat. Scott Brown, a Republican, won a close race with 52% of the vote. In 2012 he lost to a Fake Indian, despite getting more votes than in 2010. The reason is the party machines in Boston, Worcester, Springfield and Lowell did not come out in 2010. They were run by mayors who hated the 2010 Democrat nominee.

      • In the before times, people like the AP ran stories like this:

        ALICE, Texas (AP) — In 1977, Associated Press reporter James W. Mangan’s exclusive interview with a South Texas election judge who detailed certifying false votes for Lyndon B. Johnson nearly three decades earlier made headlines across the country.
        With the win by an 87-vote margin in the 1948 Democratic primary runoff, Johnson, then a congressman, easily defeated his Republican opponent to take a seat in the U.S. Senate, and he eventually ascended to the presidency.
        Mangan spent three years pursuing the story, which pulled back the curtain on the victory that had drawn suspicions ever since election officials in rural Jim Wells County announced the discovery of uncounted votes in ballot box known as Box 13.
        Headlines across the U.S. that accompanied the story included: “Polling Official: Phony Votes Stole ’48 Runoff for LBJ”; “LBJ’s election to Senate ‘stolen’”; “Texan Claims Fix in LBJ Election.”

        https://apnews.com/article/lbj-stolen-election-box-13-mangan-c818e478ec509c65585d3094bda69f96

        In the after (2020) times, even a whiff of a mention that elections could be ‘stolen’ would put one in the crosshairs of giant multinational corporations from social media on down, have one disbarred, prosecuted…

        …. out driving in ‘the country’ yesterday and saw a vomit-inducing giant banner at the local demo-rat, sold-out small burg campaign HQ — “Harris-Walz We’re Never Going Back” — with the usual smatter of their signs that happen to also indicate another cash-strapped hamlet near a blue shitlib capitol — was ‘gentrified’ by the L Gee Bee Q crowd.

        Looks like they would be okay with ‘going back’ to stolen elections.

      • TPTB in 2020 were worried about the amount of outrage it had generated, and decided to put its thumb on the scales. After all, Normie Boomercon isn’t going to riot let alone secede, but leftists are so emotive they can’t be trusted not to force a brutal crackdown. I initially discounted that fraud had occurred at the scale it did, but when the motive for widespread cheating became apparent it made perfect sense. This time around, it doesn’t seem like TPTB care all that much, largely because there just isn’t as much passion involved. Of course, that doesn’t preclude emergent behavior from the bottom up, which is probable. The question is whether it will be determinative.

      • Every fraud-enhancing measure is legal in California, including ballot harvesting. Coming soon to a state near you.

    • “We don’t rig elections” is pure boomer projection. The left-wing establishment has no such compunctions. When the left repeats such claims, it’s only to reinforce that conditioning.

      • Boomer schmoomer. My “Silent” gen father screamed at me during the lockdown era, about how he “could not wait” to get “vaccinated” … “my government has never lied to me, have you ever heard of the polio vaccine..”

        This lunacy is not just relegated to those born from 1946 on, and lumping in people that were an infant of one years, when the 1965 evil went down … just keeps the shit-stains off the Silents, where they belong.

        It was the generation of my Silent parents that embraced ‘divorce doesn’t hurt children’ — jerking off to Playboy, etc. They enjoyed the economy of the 1949-1962 era in the USA, directly — but seem to avoid the blame with it all being passed on to ‘the Boomers…’

        Hey not saying that Boomers are not a bunch of status-seeking, money grubbing, ‘everybody’s kids borrow money to go to college’ nominal parents. But they are part of the equation — let’s not let these Silents off the hook!

        • I meant boomer as a mindset, not a specific age group. Boomers, as such, had no direct role in the 1965 Immigration Act. The voters are nowadays largely ignored in any event. Trump at least talks about their concerns.

        • You really can’t blame Boomers for anything that happened prior to the early 90s. Legislatively, most of the rot was baked into the cake long before that.

          Of course they haven’t exactly covered themselves with glory in the last 30 years…

      • Quite right. The entire history of the New Left–and not just in electoral politics–is of a completely amoral, the-end-justifies-the-means approach. There is not a Leftist in AINO who would lose a minute’s sleep knowing his people stole the election from Trump. When Hitler’s Ghost haunts the West in perpetuity, you have the green light to do anything you dam’ well please to send it back to the sepulchre.

        • I always remind us: The last three Democratic primaries were brazenly stolen, all the Party’s dedicated supporters made to eat shit in front of everybody.

          This increased Democrat enthusiasm (to the point of psychosis in many) and turnout in the following generals.

          This is what they want. Our Democracy works for them, not only materially but psychologically (and sexually). If we don’t understand this, we don’t understand “the left.”

    • When it’s mandatory, they can pry my vote from my cold dead hands. Stopped wearing seatbelts when they mandatorized that. It’s a word.

37. “Her entire existence as a political figure rests on a mass media operation to conceal the reality of her support.”

    And to conceal that’s she’s an utter cipher in herself, who doesn’t know anything, can’t talk about anything, and has no experience of anything. Her “campaign” has no policy platform (but then that also holds for Biden in 2020 and Hillary in 2016). That is to say, her campaign is entirely negative (“The alternative is appalling”).

    I note, with some schadenfreude, that the Wash Po has refused to endorse Harris. I hope Bezos administered a hard kick to Kagan’s ample backside to speed that noxious neocon out the door.

    • Also, please note that for your records: Being completely wrong about everything in 20 years of war, getting untold numbers of people killed and maimed, plus a humiliating bugout that left billions of dollars’ worth of military hardware in our enemies’ hands: That’s no big deal. But your employer failing to publicly slobber over your preferred presidential candidate, now that’s worth resigning over!

38. The news of election fraud busts in PA make me think that Shapiro and maybe Whitmer are going to shut down their fraud machines this time.

    • Maybe, but I’m cynical enough to assume it’s designed to preempt any complaints of fraud. “No sir, no fraud here. You see, we caught THE fraud ring prior to election day. We had the most free and fair election. Ever.”

    • Lancaster is a Republican county. We saw similar efforts in Arizona during the 2020 election. It’s the honest election officials who are going to jail there. Arizona missed its chance to clean up their elections when they still had a Republican governor and legislature. Instead, they allowed themselves to be goaded into opening them up to fraud. In power Republicans focus on passing tax cuts, accommodating alien migrants, appointing non-white officeholders, and demonstrating how anti-racist they are. Then, when they inevitably find themselves out of office and under indictment, try to raise more money from their dazed supporters in order to try and recover the situation.

    • Or they give half the fraudulent votes to Trump in order to conceal what is going on and just use the fraud machine to prop up house/senate democrats.

    • I can see Shapiro shutting things down because he strikes me as a cynical opportunist.

      Whitmer is a full-on lunatic true believer that is more likely to sacrifice her 2028 aspirations to stop Dorito Hitler.

      • And that goes double for Whitmer’s lunatic secretary of state who will be overseeing the vote counting

        • Yup, Michigan’s SoS Benson is a complete Soros/WEF-controlled plant.

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