One of the interesting things about what is happening in Syria is that it is not just the fall of the government but a collapse of Syrian society. When Assad fled, everyone in his government went into hiding. The people running various parts of the system abandoned their posts, leaving no government at all. The money is worthless, so the economy has ceased to function.
Then you have the gangs of lunatics running around, supported by your tax dollars, making sure nothing is working. Now we are getting word that remnants of the military are forming up into war bands. Soon the various ethnic and religious groups will do the same and the result will be a war zone where lightly armed war bands fight with one another for control of increasingly worthless land.
In other words, Syria collapsed and went from a poorly functioning country to something like a fallen Bronze Age society. This is not just the fall of a government but the collapse of everything, which is not something we often see. The last example is Libya, which was not much a society before we killed Gaddafi. The most recent example is the collapse of the Soviet Union three decades ago.
That is the show this week. Societal collapse is a rare thing, but Syria is a good reminder that it can still happen. The conditions are pretty similar in all the big examples of collapse. Of course, once you start thinking about those conditions, the West begins to look a bit fragile. Syria is also a reminder that collapse always catches people by surprise, even those causing it.
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This Week’s Show
Contents
- Intro
- Syrian Collapse
- French Collapse
- Tsarist Collapse
- Soviet Collapse
- Collapse & Revolution
- The American Collapse
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Syria was a reasonably well functioning country 15 years ago, with Assad protecting Christians and minorities…Then the US and its minions decided to create a color revolution, accompanied by strangling sanctions and US military occupation of a major. oil producing area…That failed due to Russian military intervention, as did a later attempt in 2015…This time, the Syrian Arab Army refused to fight, probably due to bribery, and the Russians gave up…Now it’s Lord of the Flies territory…
The lesson is that no smaller country can indefinitely withstand destruction by the concerted action of powerful countries….
it’s crazy how every action the USA takes in the Middle East leads to slaughter of Christians, dismantling of Christian communities, and mass migration of non-Christians into the USA and Europe where the ties of Christianity are further weakened. But no, that’s surely just a coincidence.
Hey, hey! Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks…
D.C. would like to crush American Christians too, but there might be resistance, you see. There’s a lot of pesky Christians and some are pretty feisty about their satanic government.
Small countries on the other side of the world . . . no problem!
ray, the number of Christians who share your beliefs is small. Most self-professed Christians are f@gs whom the government likes.
Governments need to crush the people who, Christian or not, believe in traditional sex roles and ethnonationalism.
Don’t discount the non-Christians who share most of your beliefs and we won’t discount your Christianity.
It will be a blessed day if together we ever triumph and have to sort out our religious differences. I’m pulling for you guys.
‘Most self-professed Christians are f@gs whom the government likes.’ Like the rest of American society, the Christian ‘churches’ are feminized and emasculated. I avoid these doods same as the gelded atheists and agnostics. One day back when I lived in Amerika the neighbor, who was a fresh-outta-bible-college Pastor Boy (maybe 22 or 23) gave me the rote ‘When Will I See You in Church?’ line. I told him if I walked into his church it’d spontaneously combust. I also told him (twice) that serving God was not a career. ‘Don’t discount the non-Christians who share most of your beliefs and… Read more »
Yep. I’m all for Christianity but unfortunately there are probably more Christian Zionists in the Israel Lobby than Jewish Zionists, LOL.
It’s incredible how many of these guys do not understand their own religion. Christianity properly understood is a rejection of Jewish tribalism, exclusivity, arrogance, self-righteousness and perceived superiority, not a affirmation of it.
Christianity is overdue for a Second Reformation.
Ghosts of Benghazi weapons smuggling.
Stalin was infinitely worse than Hitler. The holocaust happened in wartime in the occupied territory. The holocaust happened to non-Germans. If you were a good German in Nazi Germany, you were pretty much free to live a normal life, at least before the war. Stalin ran a terror state. You could be arrested and tortured into confessing anything without cause. The police literally had arrest quotas. Stalin’s forced labor camps were probably more lethal than any of the Nazi so-called death camps. Blaming Hitler for the war is a bit disingenuous. While Hitler certainly failed to avoid the war, both… Read more »
One thing that gets me is that policy of Israel in the last year is basically a claim that the Holocaust was morally justified. The Israelis are trying to completely exterminate/expel a large civilian population as punishment for and war again a “terrorist group” (Hamas) that emerged from and is embedded in it. Well, the civilian Ashkenazi Jews in 1930s Europe also had armies of terrorists emerge from and be embedded in them, in the form of violent Spartakist/Bolshevik/Communist revolutionaries whose goal was to do the horrible things to the Germans and other Europeans that their compatriots had already done… Read more »
The Old Testament is full of genocides carried out “righteously” by the Jews against pretty much all their neighbors. This kind of thinking isn’t novel with Netanyahu. It may be that Netanyahu and his Zionist friends are just more honest about what they’re up to than previous Israeli leaders have been though.
Pretty much all Jewish holidays revolve around the mass slaughter of non-Jews.
Yep, I believe that the Jews are butthurt at Uncle A because he beat them at their own game…
Somebody had to expect the collapse. I firmly believe that the Syrian Army officers were paid off and / or blackmailed into abandoning their units. Once they were gone, most of the rest of the army just walked away.
Clearly…it’s not like the head choppers are much of a military force…As one expert observed, a battalion or two of Russian troops would have halted this invasion quite rapidly….
The Syrian officers were making a pittance, so there was no need to pay them off. What happened to them is the value in supporting the regime dropped to zero, so they quit supporting the regime.
They should have fought as best they could , they are now being huntd down and killed . lots of hanging and shooting videos of short haired guys on the web.
runnng jus means they are defensless now.
never apologize, never surrender.
Once you’ve picked a side, you better fight to the death for that side.
I heard that Iran stopped shipping cheap oil to Syria in 2023, and with the US occupying their best oil fields, its hard to run a military without oil.
from your mouth to God’s ears, re our military..
Is that why Biden is attempting to federalize the National Guard, with authorization to shoot citizens, as quick way to get around Posse Comitatus?
One would hope it would be to defend us from the invading horde once the balloon goes up (which is the NG and state militias’ job anyways), but I’m betting they’ll be expected to throw in with invaders given permission like the Muslims are in Europe.
‘Fate of Empires’ by Sir John Glubb p.12-13 In the fourteenth century, the weakening empire of Byzantium was threatened, and indeed dominated, by the Ottoman Turks. The situation was so serious that one would have expected every subject of Byzantium to abandon his personal interests and to stand with his compatriots in a last desperate attempt to save the country. The reverse occurred. The Byzantines spent the last fifty years of their history in fighting one another in repeated civil wars, until the Ottomans moved in and administered the coup de grâce. p. 15 In the first half of the… Read more »
That’s a great book.
Psychologist Janine Chasseguet-Smirgel argued that the destruction of traditional morality with the attendant blooming of depravity and degeneracy always herald chaos and disaster. She arrived at her conclusions through social psychology, but they seem to tally quite well with the historical record.
I might have linked this here before, it’s a good read
J.D. Unwin and Why Sexual Morality May be Far More Important than You Ever Thought — Quest
My husband mentioned that to me a few weeks ago and I just read it now. Fascinating and utterly predictable. Although the linked article mentions the vital importance of premarital chastity, it does not specify ‘female’ premarital chastity. But that was the historical pattern, and as we’ve seen, without external male and societal control, women’s sexuality seems to run amok. Although pederasts have long been known to feature hundreds of sexual partners, that has not been the general pattern for normal men. But now women openly brag of dozens of partners and one father’s daughter just rutted with 100 men… Read more »
“it does not specify ‘female’ premarital chastity. But that was the historical pattern, and as we’ve seen, without external male and societal control, ” Men cannot enforce chastity on women without some self control themselves. The alphabet people running amok is about a social majority of men sowing their wild oats and then being impotent to do anything when they got older. The minority of men who have some integrity are then also are helpless in the face of the social majority. Yes, for many reasons chastity in women matters more. However, that cannot exist in world where the men are… Read more »
Fair point. Men were celebrating ‘sexual liberation’ in the late ’60s and 1970s, because it meant one could easily bed without being wed. Most were not thinking past their crotches to what this would mean for long-term marriage/fidelity and parenthood. Unwin describes the lowest level of human society as ‘zoistic,’ focused entirely on day-to-day wants and needs. A pattern we are all familiar with by virtue of AINO’s non-White population – lack of future time orientation.
Harams are all the rage, hypergamy means the women end up all trying to get the same man. The only losers are men not in the upper 10 percent of the population. You see the same in the economy. And when Chad knocks a five or a six up, he leaves, the state picks up the pieces, taking some money from all the men who aren’t getting any. What a tangled web we weave. A thought experiment for the readers: Who has easier access to sex? The average guy? Or the average women?
We’ve all seen the videos and articles about women who are 40+, single/divorced, celebrating living their ‘best life’ focusing on mememememe . . . and the equal number of posts/clips lamenting “Why am I so alone?” as their wiser friends settle down and raise families. I am as misanthropic as they come, but I’d slowly go nuts if I was utterly alone all the time. My husband and I give each other space (as much as we can in our tiny cabin) but we also provide one another with friendship, intellectual stimulation, physical assistance and attraction, and all the rest… Read more »
That is commendable, but i’m not certain what your point is? Please elaborate. To clarify myself, i’m not saying “all” women are like this, i know you guys hate that, i’m saying the majority are. When was the last time you tried to date women in their 20’s and 30’s? 😉
Did you consider my thought experiment?
Humanity is a herd species, can we agree on that? And from my personal exp. seeking the safety of the herd is more of a female trait (not saying some men don’t do the same).
The plural of her is herd.
And of course the herd will deny and rage against what they patently are.
No disagreement with you at all. And I don’t hate hearing “all women are ‘x'”, because most are! I refer to them as emotionally incontinent airheads, and that’s when I’m being civil.
And why do you think “We’ve all seen the videos and articles about women who are 40+, single/divorced, celebrating living their ‘best life’ focusing on mememememe . . . and the equal number of posts/clips lamenting “Why am I so alone?”? Why is that put on blast? But if you’re a dude and you look for confirmation for your exp. you have to actually search for it? And lets be honest, even when i was in high school, before i even knew what feminism or female nature was, all the hot girls in my grade were dating seniors or football… Read more »
Mr. House —
Exactly.
It still can’t be separated from the modern male. The modern female has been conditioned to consider sex as the equivalent of a goodnight kiss. She longs for a life partner, but needs to “put out” to sell herself as such. Males, especially young males of course, will never say “no thanks” to sex, and females become jaded after a number of fruitless liaisons and never pair bond appropriately if a life partner is found. Males *must* be taught by their fathers this social aspect of sex—not simply the biological aspects. Alas, fathers are exactly what more and more “modern”… Read more »
Samuel Johnson wrote in the 1700s, “Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little.”
Men must constrain women’s sexual power because if it is unleashed, men go crazy and things fall apart.
I can sympathize with women who feel unfairly put upon. They can get pregnant, and at least as significant, if they are allowed to flaunt their bodies for personal gain, then men lose their minds, and everything collapses.
Sorry ladies. Civilization depends on men restraining your sexual power. Get mad at God or nature.
Countries that restrict female power, especially female sexual power, typically thrive and last. Countries that don’t restrict female power fail from within, and fall. Countries that gleefully ‘liberate’ female sexuality and empower females across-the-board in all aspects of society — turning females into the supervisors and cultural rulers of men — are condemned by God for their joyful rebellion against Him and nature. Those countries get the Special Treatment. Women rage against this truth about restricting their chaotic, emotive, vengeful natures. Their daddies rage against it, and the simps that women ‘educate’ and neuter rage against it. All in vain.… Read more »
As mentioned, men are responsible as well. They must restrain their bodily urges or be partners to such women’s shenanigans.
Absolutely. I didn’t mean to let men off the hook.
I’m not a believer, but I enthusiastically support the old idea of Christian restraint regarding sexuality. Those teachings contain immense civilizational wisdom.
Were we to adopt those teachings again, we men would all be longing for sexual abandon, but society would be much more secure.
The “Penthouse Letters” fantasies of the 1980s lead to ruin.
Great comment. I imagine in my mind a sloping graph that represents societal wellbeing. The most “fun” time to be alive was probably just as the graph line started to dip down, past the point of no return but before collapse was obvious. This would be roughly the late sixties and seventies. Boomers banging each other for fun without fear of stds, smoking grass, and not knowing how this would invoke the divorce, suicide, crime, and drug overdose epidemic for their children and grandchildren.
“…lack of future time orientation.”
Which I consider to be a function of a wealthy society that has (temporarily) escaped the effect of harsh Darwinian selection.
So females whoring around is the fault of men. Right.
Why is it in modern Western societies that any fault that females have must be laid at the feet of men? That’s running society according to Feminist Logic, and the results are all around us.
@Ray
You may enjoy this, guy makes excellent points
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZDMsbxEmk
Well, to an extent, yes. The act takes two, does it not? The men are considered the more rational of the sexes, the women the more emotional. Does not such distinction entail “restraint” on the part of men?
How to keep the daughters from whoring around typically is the central problem for any society, because then the birth rates plummet. Nations used to be realistic about this fact. U.S society can’t even admit that this IS a problem, because that might suggest that females are less than holy, pure, kind goddesses. It might also suggest that females have ravenous sexual appetites, which often they do. Instead, America infantilizes and empowers its daughters, to the ruin of all. Liberating females from all consequences, sexual and otherwise, is America’s method. Dads of daughters love that their princesses go to the… Read more »
Ah, but help is on the way! Philadelphia, concerned about falling birth rates, is offering women a monthly stipend to get pregnant. What could possibly go wrong?
Sounds like a typically American solution to its ruinous Woman Problem: give them more money and power. More independence from God and man.
Philadelphia keeps going like this and I’m gonna have to change the name of my church.
Philadelphia? Well, my home town of Baltimore just down the road has had a similar program in place for ages. We call it “welfare”. It seems to be very effective at producing lots of pregnancies too. Now as far as quality…
Rodney Dangerfield had a funny line about sex and meeting women. He said, “the eight hours of having to bullshit ain’t worth the eight seconds.”
I always thought that was insightful. Of course, we are all human beings and we are made to procreate, but it does seem rather silly than everybody is so fixated on eight seconds of pleasure. TV, movies, music, video, politics, the legal system … It’s like that’s all they talk about.
The 8 hours of bullshit seemed a lot more worth it at 18 than it does at 54. I expect that still holds true for today’s 18 year olds
Too much is made of both the simulation of ‘romance,’ that today’s women make such a big deal out of (the fancy restaurants, flowers, etc.) and animalistic, exhibitionist sex. But . . . without sex and physical intimacy marriage is just friends and roommates. Both the relaxed, natural companionship and the ‘8 seconds’ matter.
Our feminist nations are the result of 800 years of Western Romanticism. America, in particular, is what happens when men romanticize women.
Romanticism is neo-gnostic and demonic. It has nothing to do with Godly/Biblical relationship and marriage.
Effing Cathars. They’re everywhere now.
Amen to that.
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Suits me just fine.
So wild. Women have been with us pure, noble, utterly virtuous men- so blameless are we, so unselfishly good are we to them!- for a rather long time, yet something happened in the late 1800s. After 1881, possibly. Nah. No way. Couldn’t be. You see, it was the women themselves who made Liberation a movement. Yes, yes, the women gave us: Liberation Feminism Pornography Industrialized abortion The Pill itself The Labor market Minority status Intersectionality It was the women, all on their own, who invented these things, cooked them up out of their silly little heads, organized them and made… Read more »
The (obvious) fact that men are weak and flawed creatures does not change the fact that women, collectively, have become monsters in the modern West. That some weak men colluded in this is not news. Like leftie men, conservative men just cannot stand to hear the truth spoken about female nature . . . gasp! not THEIR precious princess. Mine is DIFFERENT. lol Instead, rightie men rush forward to exclaim that men were part-and-parcel in the creation of our Feminist Nation. If we just disenfranchise and demean men and masculinity enough, well, that oughta solve the problem of our gyno-societies.… Read more »
That some weak men colluded in this is not news. “Some.” If only. We need to face the fact that weak men have been the rule a long time and that led directly to today’s disaster. Al is right in that a certain Tribe created the pathologies he listed, but they could have been checked if men from out groups had rediscovered their spine. I really enjoyed this yesterday from someone whose name rhymes: The Absence of Men :: SteynOnline. It is a willful absence, and that is acknowledged, but that piece is spot on. Whores and female sociopathy have… Read more »
To support that argument I point to the rest of the world and even the West a couple of centuries or so ago where marriages were “arranged” between families—the offspring having little to no say in the matter. Seems to have worked in the main.
While I don’t support totally ‘arranged’ marriages, and deplore marriages between close relatives as practiced in Pakistan and many Muslim countries, it used to be considered common sense to accept the counsel of one’s parents before committing to what used to be a life partner. Whatever happened to the idea that one should marry someone from a ‘good family’? (i.e. no alcoholism, drugs, violence, lots of divorce, etc.). Of course, if the girl’s mother is an airhead and/or slore and father is absent and/or considers his daughter a ‘princess,’ run away.
Amazing link.
Depressing though.
It smacks a bit of “post hoc, ergo propter hoc” reasoning.
I tend to agree with the sentiment, but am immediately suspect. We see much of this in the literature these days.
That’s excellent, Jeffrey, thanks. I haven’t read Unwin previously, but apparently based on the summary he doesn’t directly address the racial and r/k selection factors, which follows on from what is put forth in the link. Three generations into “sexual liberation,” it does appear his theory is playing out as the West collapses.
Depravity and degeneracy are the mortal enemies of the family and the family is the actual building block of society (not the individual, as in the liberal ideology).
And of Fulfillment
I’ve been watching The Godfather trilogy which has been playing on Pluto for the past couple of months. I’ve seen it so many times, it’s comfortable background noise when I’m doing something else. But the thing that strikes me is that the most powerful and successful of the bunch, Vito Corleone, Michael Corleone, Tom Hagen and Peter Clemenza all kept it zipped. Vito was raised under traditional Italian Catholic morality and didn’t understand why you would want or need anything on the side. But the womanizers of the bunch (Sonny, Carlos and Fredo) weren’t quite as successful or lucky. For… Read more »
It’s still amazing to me how little it takes to upset the apple cart. History turns on a dime. For want of a nail etc.
A lot of what was written there could also apply to modern day America.
The Turkics (who originated in Mongolia) were brought in as servants and slaves to the Arabs and Persians. The Abbasid-era Muslims trained them as soldiers, and they rose up and took over.
It sounds like the Muslims brought them in to pick their lettuce and do their lawns…
The US economy is based on lies, deception and fraud. A perfect example of this just happened. The New Jersey supreme court just made a ruling that is so typical. A couple was driving down the road and were t-boned by some alien driving for Uber Eats. Apparently, their minor daughter had, at one time, ordered an Uber Eats. By agreeing to the EULA, not only her, but all of her immediate relatives are forced into arbitration. This just happened with Disney too. Someone signed up for a free trial of Disney plus years before visiting Disney World where they… Read more »
I hope there is more to this and appeal to higher courts will establish such. There is no way we can have another, unauthorized individual, sign contracts for other parties without their knowledge or expressed consent. The law would collapse. When at the university many years ago, we began to experience such “contracts” via the shrink wrapped software we purchased for PC’s. Everyone has seen such. That’s when the software box is shrink wrapped and there is a sticker upon it that says “…removal and use of this software indicates agreement to the enclosed license.” After some thought, the university… Read more »
I wonder how long it is going to be before we start seeing slave markets in Homs.
The fact that the US supported this rebellion then immediately started bombing the rebels after they succeeded says it all. A book came out in 2005 named “Incoherent Empire”. I never read it but the name always stuck with me. Of course this incoherence comes because the US government feels obligated to support a rogue state in the region that works directly against American interests, but we can’t talk about that.
We should place bets on what appears first-
Well, one week after Libya fell, a country without a government and chaos in the streets had an oil bank.
Jihadcoin! I love it. Wonder how many heads I have to chop off to earn one.
“Jihadicoin” kind of rolls off the tongue, don’t it?
Putting the Fed in fedayeen!
Underrated.
Being a middle-aged white man with a family and a firearm, I think about collapse a lot. I can’t speak for Europe, but the USA’s collapse scenario might be: Cities will become warzones, and the warlords will be black. The test case was the CHAZ in Seattle in 2020. There will be African-levels of violence and pray for any pretty girl left behind. Rural and exurban areas will be better off, with communes or militias forming up. There will be scarcity, and death, but not a lot of violence. Hispanics and Whites may or may not cooperate. Best-case scenario will… Read more »
Once all the condoms and birth control run out, difficult pregnancies and STD’s will will become common. The only safe sex is no sex.
I no longer subscribe to the collapse scenario. Rather I see gradual decline, dissolution, and balkanization, with the creation of independent states the ultimate outcome. There will be some dislocation and misery, of course, but absolutely nothing like we’d see in a collapse scenario.
It’s an internet tradition by now to link to wtfhappenedin1971.com to point out that the collapse already happened. If collapse means something like “economic immiseration of the people,” there it is (was). The American Dream was obliterated at about the same time the average Z Blog reader was born, and we are not young men. Things—the measurable things libertarians used to put on charts—have been made a lot worse for normal people since 2020, and nothing measurable suggests that the making worse will ever let up. I don’t have much use for measurable things (except in pointing out that nerds… Read more »
That’s a good point. The fact that we use the term AINO in place of America indicates that something has already gone terribly wrong. But while the financial circumstances of the vast majority of AINO’s subjects are still quite tenable and even good, it is the culture around us that has utterly collapsed. America was a beautiful and admirable place. AINO is a disgusting pig sty. And that is because moral and aesthetic standards have been demolished. Still, when I speak of “collapse,” I mean a reduction of living standards to Third World levels, and that most assuredly has not… Read more »
“But while the financial circumstances of the vast majority of AINO’s subjects are still quite tenable and even good,” Hard for me to wrap my head around that. Certainly, the economic status of folks commenting here resemble the elevated level of commentary—but I fear we are a small minority. Last a I read, a recent survey showed 60% the American family groups would have difficulty meeting an unexpected expense of $600. These type of surveys are not a rarity. The median net worth of Americans in the 55-64 age group is around $200k. That means they will enter retirement with… Read more »
I have never seen a tent city in a public park. And, no, I don’t live in the Hamptons.
I see I’ve gored the ox of a doom porn junkie.
Yes. The Balkanization is underway even now. The internal migration is nothing short of breathtaking; it is, in fact, so extraordinary we have reduced it to background noise rather than deal with what it portends. The more valuable human capital has abandoned the cities already and that will expand to include the remnants of the working class who still are there. AINO’s citizenry remains materially the wealthiest (that is going away, as an aside) but it is indeed the quality of life that has utterly collapsed. The oil shock of 1971 pales in comparison to feminism and demographic change, both… Read more »
I don’t think we’ll collapse hard either….there would have to be a pretty awesome event like an asteroid or a global natural disaster for the world to revert to pre-industrial. The reason why a terrifying collapse (like Libya/Somalia/Syria) happens is because nobody has any real interest or investments in those countries. The USA is seriously tied up with the world’s fortunes, so we’ll get a strongman before we get a Syria. Russia or China would fall harder than even the cuckiest and softest Western country like Germany, because they are non-aligned and more or less on their own, and the… Read more »
The end of the Roman empire, again.
This.
Note, in the absolute ruins of Ancient Rome in the early 500’s they still organized and ran horse races in the Circus Maximus. Civilization declines in stages, but declines it does.
“I no longer subscribe to the collapse scenario.”
I don’t, either. Not out of some naive doubt it could happen, but the company such thinking attracts. Aside from countless predictions that never come to fruition, too many wish for it to happen at the expense of ignoring nasty problems already present. “Not much I can do,” they say, except sit on the sidelines and piss and moan whilst wagging a finger. Be prepared, but FFS, live your life.
The US may be “fragile”, but not all seems the same. For one, we have a division of civic duties among the States and the Fed’s. What did Syria have outside of a Federal government to assert order? But perhaps most importantly, Syria is populated by low IQ Arabs enmeshed in a religion of “death”. Healthy societies are not founded that way, especially after a successful revolution where factions were only held together by a common enemy. Now that Assad is gone, the factions immediately turn upon each other. Of course, this seems all planned by the CIA. The end… Read more »
The US is protected by oceans and weak neighbors, so the much more likely result of our internal squabbles is breakup into cultural/ethnic based regional groups…which frankly should have happened a long time ago…
It is happening now. Let’s hope it is more successful than the suburbs proved out.
Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like the Russians developed the Poseidon nuclear torpedoes to significantly reduce the amount of protection the oceans afford the US.
Of course, this perspective assumes that the Poseidon exists and functions as is rumored on the interwebs.
It is quite clever of them to turn our own defensive assets into something to kill us with.
” . . . weak neighbors . . .” Only to a point. Those ‘weak’ Mexicans and central American Indios have been easily invading AINO for decades. Barring organized cooperative violence and resolve on the part of Whites, the entire southwest will be indistinguishable socially and economically from their homelands in 50 years. And in addition to our moronic welcome of all the subcons, they are streaming in through the northern border. And that’s not even mentioning Hongcouver. Unless/until air and sea travel vanishes, oceans are no protection whatsoever.
-3g4me
In addition to the factions you mention, AINO has a serious cartel infiltration problem.
Just think of how many politicians the cartels own on both sides of the border.
Law enforcement is even worse because they are infiltrated by cartel-affiliated gangs and actual cartel operatives. The LAPD and Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department are prime examples of this type of infiltration.
The cartels also recruit from the military and have infiltrated it to some degree. That is one of the lesser reasons the United States military is hot garbage now, but it is a factor.
Syria never had an Islam problem. The crazies are imports, sponsored by Turkey and the United States. The human capital is a bit less than in North America, but it had substantial smart fraction. The Alawites look very European for a reason. Like Lebanon, a Syria left alone probably settles into something like Jordan, but with more tourism.
“the result will be a war zone where lightly armed war bands fight with one another for control of increasingly worthless land” This is how Israel has wanted it, planned for it, and enacted it. As I imagine most know, Zionist jews in the Pentagon developed a plan before 9/11 that the US would destroy the governments of Israel’s various perceived enemies, according to General Wesley Clark, “starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran”. It seems like leaving each nation a Mad Max mess with no central government strong enough to field a… Read more »
“…leaving each nation a Mad Max mess with no central government strong enough to field a coherent military able to stand up to Israel has been the goal.”
Brilliant. Brilliant. That’s it.
That’s their strategy for the entire world. That’s why they sow discord everywhere; as the Zman pointed out, as a permanent minority cohered by well-earned paranoia, they then rule with ruthless suppression.
This was WW1, WW2, and will be WW3. WW1 and 2 vaulted them to global power, meaning WW3 – by war, by pandemic, by attacking the food supply, by financial collapse – WW3 must happen.
Great point tying this recent intentional nation deconstructing in the Middle East with the nation wrecking of the world wars. I had not put that together, and it is illuminating.
The world is clearly moving toward something vaguely along the lines forseen by Huntington. The question is will clash be inevitable.
Maybe Trump is thinking about a new Big Three or Four Policeman arrangement with himself, Xi, Modi, maybe Putin.
Extending and invitation to Xi to attend the innaugural is simultaneously intriguing, hilarious and shrewd. As would be an invitation to Putin, which would have the added benefit of reducing the “foreign policy community” by half through strokes and heart attacks.
The problem is China has a lot of the same problems the US has, only worse. China has a corruption problem that makes America look like a utopia in comparison. Chinese soldiers removed the liquid fuel from rockets to cook with and replaced the fuel with water. The food system is so corrupt that the CCP has its own farms run by and for the party to supply party members with high quality food. China has a problem with gutter oil. Used cooking oil literally sucked out of gutters, “filtered and treated” and sold again as new. A big scandal… Read more »
Huntington already has been validated by the conflicts with the Muslim world, and the clash underway with Russia also lines up with his view of Orthodoxy as being in conflict with what was formerly Christendom. The man was a prophet but said things that required him to be unpersoned
The hardest truth is that a collapse is often the only cure for what ails us. An addict must hit a hard bottom if he is to have any chance at redemption. That is nature’s eternal lesson. Normie will not get off the couch until he must do so or die. Hunger is the seminal motivator. Parasites cannot be rehabilitated. You are either strong, smart, and productive, or the gene pool has no use for you. And as for the Syrian example, let’s see how well a creative narrative, woke indoctrination, and pissing & moaning survives in that environment.
Alex Krainer is one of the sharpest geo-political minds on the internet. He is also very aware of historical precedence, something which seems to elude Americans. In this interview, his informed opinion is quite different from all the journalist jibber-jabber we’ve been hearing. He believes the Russians and Iranians decided some time ago to simply invite chaos into Syria as a way of finally defeating the West. In other words, they’ve sprung a trap. His argument is compelling. Listen carefully and listen to all of it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0FQeGjPSc0
A simpler explanation is that the Russians and Iranians decided to cut their losses. Any other explanation is coping.
I tend to agree, but if the defense of Ukraine is draining us, imagine what the defense of Israel will do.
I heard it floated that Putin made a deal to trade Syria for Ukraine. I wouldn’t necessarily think so much about that, time will tell in any case, but just this week none other than ABC News came out and said on air that 1 million Ukrainian soldiers have died in the war.
I couldn’t find that.
There are any number of explanations, but in that part of the world there are no simple explanations. Today’s friend is tomorrow’s enemy in the Mideast. Russia and Iran can afford to wait and see what develops. And Turkey may have now created a nasty neighbor right on its border. Israel, more so. Neither Russia nor Iran share a border with Syria. And Hezbollah will continue to get supplied…count on it.
I had watched that interview with Alex Krainer when it came out. I wasn’t convinced. I don’t see how it can benefit Russia or Iran compared to the status quo ante in Syria. I also watched an interview with Brian Berletic at the Danny Haiphong channel a few days after that interview and Brian didn’t seem to think the theory holds water either.
It might possibly benefit Russia and Iran as the chaos unfolds and provided the collective West overreaches but not as some kind of 3-D chess master move planned well in advance. Sorry, just don’t buy it.
As Krainer stated, how do these regime change antics work out for the US? They are all expensive failures, the latest being Afghanistan (and Libya and Iraq before that). All the low hanging Sykes-Picot fruit is gone. Think “sustainability”. Israel’s position as an Anglo-American catspaw for the Mackinder Project continues to get more perilous. Ukraine is part of that project and the Russians have won there. Now what?
You raise some good points and some I’m scratching my head over. For example, I have trouble thinking of Israel as being an Anglo-American catspaw. It seems to me to be the reverse. Regardless, it’s an unhealthy relationship. When you mention the “Mackinder project” my brain just hurts. It seems to me that the Mackinder project in practice is an all-purpose mind-virus deliberately injected into the consciousness of Western elites to advance the local agendas of an interlocking web of criminal cartels in the rest of the world. America becomes a little more despotic and more diminished as this mind-virus… Read more »
The collapse of the Soviet Union, of Kuomintang China, of Syria, of East Germany, all have as the main cause the lack of payment, regular and loyalty buying, of the soldiers and police. This is the lesson. Above all in a modern, semi-industrial society, the police and soldiers must be well paid to retain their loyalty. The same can likely be said of Saigon. By contrast, the HST, the Taliban, the NVA, etc. are not or were not paid much at all or irregularly paid in the case of the NVA. They fought for a cause, based on national, or… Read more »
The oligarchy that is (optimistically) openly allied with Trump, or (pessimistically) controlling him, will not permit a coup against him (at least not anytime soon), just as they did not permit the election to be stolen this time around. Although I’m open to the probability that a couple of down ballot races were allowed to be stolen. It’s a curious statistical anomaly that the late counted ballots always favor the D candidate, who may or may not end up pulling ahead, yet win or lose, every single time, Every Single Time, Every Single Damned Time, the late counted ballots always… Read more »
as long as it takes to loot the armories and “confiscate” food supplies.
We pretend to have such high morality yet we continue to do this to people over and over again. We are the Great Satan, just as the Iranians say.
Notice that Israel is occupying a lot of former Syrian land. This will continue and expand. The media will be showing the head choppers in action and this will justify the occupation as Israel will be “protecting” itself. So we are financing the greater Israel project. I liked the photos in the Syrian government buildings with the pallets of U.S. currency. The pallets had a QR code that shows the origin as the NY Federal Reserve. They don’t even try to hide it anymore. It was funny to see Trump, while all of this is going on, exclaim that “We… Read more »
They used to call it Lebensraum
The Order of the Garter is the oldest English knight order, established in 1348 by Edward III when, at a ball, he noticed a lady losing her garter on the floor.
As he picked it up and offered it back to her, he noticed his court smirking lewdly and said: “Honi soit qui mal y pense” – “shame on he who thinks ill thereof”, the motto of the knights.
It would be like them to time their planned demolition of the stock market to coincide with Trump’s ringing the bell. But that is only an economic collapse, we’ve seen those before. GD 1.0 strengthened the regime. (or was the panic of 1873 GD 1.0? and the crash of 1929 GD 2.0? making the next one GD 3.0? and where does 2008 fit into that timeline?). Anyhow, that’s illustrative that there can be a lot of collapses, economically, without any of them having to be “final.” Nor do they need to weaken the state. As we have seen, they can… Read more »
6 Syrian Druze villages are asking to be annexed to Israel’s Golan Heights and become a part of Israeli Druze population.
Giving Israel some new targets when they need to drum up a casus belli against their neighbors.
Those Druze have paid their dues…
Now, if Israel would just be considerate enough to offer the same right of self-determination to non-Jews living in Gaza, the West Bank, and perhaps Israel itself, they could all be happy.
The one economist who predicted the Soviet collapse was Judy Shelton with 1989’s “The Coming Soviet Crash: Gorbachev’s Desperate Pursuit of Credit in Western Financial Markets.” She examined Soviet balance sheets and found them unsustainable. Trump appointed her to the Federal Reserve Board in 2019, but the Senate stalled her appointment and in Feb. 2021 Biden withdrew it. A warning of our collapse?
I’m in the middle of Eric Cline’s 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed and its a fascinating overview of the collapse of the multi-polar societies of the eastern Mediterranean. Syria has been collapsing for millennia it seems.
Also, n.b. Peloton is a publicly traded company that is still going…
A deep dive into the fascinating and timely topic of societal collapse and catastrophically failed states cannot omit the rich case histories of post-colonial sub-Saharan Africa.
Applying Z-Man’s metrics and lead indicators of collapse to contemporary South Africa checks every box on the test sheet. A country to watch…from a safe distance.
A strategic retreat from runaway globalism would do a lot of good in the US. But some sort of purge is going to be necessary. Not necessarily guillotine purges, but certainly something that exiles people from access to power permanently is necessary.
4 years is a blink of an eye. But 12 years? We could wipe them out if Trump does a good job with Vance.
The Israeli-backed, Turkish-paid “moderate Islamists” who’ve taken over Syria are an interesting phenomenon. Mark Collett sheds light on this in a short video. The evolution of these Islamic insurgents resembles that of the Serbian nationalist Black Hand organization, which in 1914 existed primarily as an asset of Serbian military intelligence.
That video is another reminder that John Derbyshire, a known sympathizer of Israel on civilizational grounds, is a clownishly naïve mf.
Math graduate with a too high opinion of his abstract reasoning.
Mr. Derbyshire’s well-known philosemitism is fortunately less consequential than the Western leaders who are in complete thrall to it. That and the fact that most Israeli politicians make 1910s Serb militarists look moderate by comparison.
Probably the most spectacular “collapse” known to us is the fall of the Aztec Empire to a band of 100 or so Spanish ruffians with gold on their mind. Or – similarly – Pizarro’s conquest of the Incas. We’re talking not only collapse, but revolution in the lives of the unhappy inhabitants of those empires and the economies they served. From agrarian peasants, to Potosi mining slaves in one lifetime.
Lesson: It sucks to be weak.
the spanish had an army of local non-Aztec indians backing them up. these tribes were treated as a food source by the aztecs, and were looking for payback.
“You can’t get the new order until the old one collapses.” Yes. However, in post-America there is a willful and highly organized project of controlled demolition happening. Very powerful and organized networks and institutions are willfully executing a controlled demolition of the carcass of America. Clinton was pushing for it 30+ years ago. Petreaus and other generals have been advocating for it explicitly for nearly 25 years. The point? Well, it is quite possible that what we think of as The Regime being incompetent and dying is not what it is. It is a misreading or a cope. Maybe what… Read more »
Sweet ride Z.
Does anyone know the name of that movie about the stasi in East Germany , black and white, the lady gets hit by a truck at the end. Ty
“The Lives of Others”, I believe, for which I give 2 thumbs up.
Thank you sir
The Man Between 1953 with James Mason.
The Lives of Others?
I haven’t seen it, by the by.
It’s a great movie if you’re into German film, which is to say gloomy and intense. I visited East Germany right after the Wall fell and it really was like that: run-down, falling apart, towns smelly and grimy with lignite smoke, empty shops, ridiculous cars, surly people, shitty, lukewarm beer, excellent vodka, strong John le Carré-vibes When it came out, the movie sparked a wave of Ostalgia, nostalgia for the East, from old Ossies who’d seen their children being stripped of all culture and inner life and have it replaced with vapid Hollywood movies, porn, consumerism and anomie. A bit… Read more »
Commie drear versus capitalist queer–it’s almost enough to make one think humanity is condemned to melancholy.
PS–Given my username, I heartily approve of Ostalgia…
“I visited East Germany right after the Wall fell and it really was like that: run-down, falling apart, towns smelly and grimy with lignite smoke, empty shops, ridiculous cars, surly people,…” Same here, no really. Back in the day, early 60’s, folks promoted getting rid of substandard housing and built the poor folks new, high rise, apartments. See, if you had a new apartment, you’d be turned into an upstanding American citizen, every cause of social decay being due to some sort of economic disparity—capitalist Marxism. They destroyed the soul of the poor neighborhoods and concentrated crime and dysfunction into… Read more »
“Of course, once you start thinking about those conditions, the West begins to look a bit fragile.”
Merely a question of time. There were war bands in the aftermath of the collapse of the western part of the Roman empire. In the USA I would guess the collapse into roving war bands will be initially along the southern border.
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Must watch. This has gone viral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD5gtM1A990
Once Amerika “liberates” a country, they are now ruled by the 3-G’s, gangs of guys with guns.
I think the collapse you want to look out for is the collapse of the dollar. That could lead to the new American revolution
No Radio Derb?
Thanks, Jeremiah, I was about to ask the same question. Let’s hope Mr. Derbyshire is in good health.
Question for next week: A while back you mentioned you had been reading a biography of Bukharin. What was the title and author of that book, and would you recommend it? I have been interested in learning more about him and his relationship with Stalin for some time. Or you can send this to me offline. Thanks!!