Troubled Youth

Over the last week a dispute has erupted on Twitter about the relative difficulties faced by young people. One camp, current young people, claim they are entering a world that is much more difficult for them than youth of prior generations. They do not think they have the same opportunities as their parents and grandparents. Another camp thinks that young people are entering relatively good times economically but may have unrealistic expectations regarding adulthood.

To be accurate, there is at least one other camp in this debate. That camp thinks the youth face a demographic reality for which they have not been properly prepared and a prevailing culture that works to prevent that preparation. The relative state of the economy for young people does not matter if they are entering a society that is about to come apart along demographic lines. Young white people have been poorly trained up for a world that should not exist.

As is often the case, the two camps squaring off over economics are on the main stage while the camp looking at upstream issues is marginalized. While economics is downstream from demographics and culture, it still matters. We see this with the oldest demographic who remain stubbornly committed to the system. Baby boomers, overall, have it pretty good, so they still believe in the system, even it means they must endure an emergency room that looks like a Tijuana bus stop.

The economic question for young people is difficult, because it is more about expectations than objective measures. For example, about 16% of native-born teenagers have jobs today, compared to 32% in 1990. On the one hand, this is a bad thing because it means fewer young people getting necessary training to be an adult once they finish their education. On the other hand, it means they have an easier time of it than prior generations who had to work.

Those over the age of fifty love telling stories about the terrible jobs they had as young people, while no one under the age of thirty complains about not having had crappy jobs to make ends meet. In fact, the main complaint from college graduates in their twenties is that they have crappy jobs. This is where the great divide opens between those two main camps debating the issue. Old people roll their eyes, because having a crappy job is a rite of passage. Young people see it as a broken promise.

If you are in that third camp, you can see how both sides are right. On the one hand, young people should stop moaning about crappy jobs and being poor, because that is what every generation faced. In fact, prior generations had it far worse. On the other hand, this was not the deal promised to young people who went into debt to get a college diploma. They were told that this investment would let them bypass the struggle portion of their life and get right into the middle-class.

Here you see the root cause of the complaint from young people. The breakdown of order has eroded the social contract. In fact, the social contract is now a terms of service agreement. They were told to click “accept” in high school, but once they exited college, they were told the terms of service have changed. Just in case they objected, they were also told that the privacy policy had changed as well. “Please click accept” quickly became “accept or else.”

There is more to this broken social contract than economics. The conditioning of young people comes with the assumption that if they follow the rules and tick the correct boxes, they will find meaning and purpose in life. Instead, what they find is life in a cubicle, paying off school debts while living at home. Half of college graduates live at home, which is not as high as you might think, but they continue to live at home long after they have left college. That is a novelty.

In effect, young people were sold a program that said if they went to college, took on the debt and followed the rules, they would come out the other end with the sort of fulfilling life they saw in the media. Instead, they are faced with what feels like a pointless existence as an economic unit. That philosophy major at the coffee shop is not just a punch line. She is a bitter victim. Telling her that she now must find her own meaning in this struggle sounds like another lie to her.

That said, the youth of the past did not like working in high school and would have preferred to hang out with friends playing video games. College grads of the past would have preferred to get a job in their field at the same wage as an experienced man, rather than working retail until they could get their foot in the door. The struggle for today’s youth is relatively easy, even if it is the result of a broken promise. In fact, young people probably have it too easy in many respects.

This generational conflict is, in the end, a proxy for the larger conflict which revolves around the failure of the ruling class over the last thirty years. Instead of upholding the rules, especially the rules of the social contract, they turned the country into a smash and grab where everyone is on their own. As a result, the powerful, for example colleges, exploit the weak, their students. It should be no surprise that the victims of such a system are not its biggest fans.


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Maxda
Maxda
3 hours ago

Same age as Z and a father so I’ve seen it from both perspectives. Sure I had some crap jobs back in the day. Then I got my act together and my career on track. About 15 years ago, noticed it the diversity bunch getting the promotions instead of me or people who look like me. My son has seen that crap his whole life. He and his friends aren’t bitter about having to work hard. They are bitter because they know the whole system is rigged against them – while they are expected to keep that system going for… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Maxda
3 hours ago

Today I see that Walmart is advertising 3,000 H1-B jobs, average wage 139,000….How is it possible that Americans can’t fill those jobs? Many Ivy League grads would apply, as well as recent Business school grads…

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 hours ago

The notion that dot Indians are well equipped for such jobs ignores the fact that India is perhaps the most corrupt society on the planet, and everything is accomplished by bribery….

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 hours ago

Not even Ivy League or business school grads. Walmart, like so many American companies, was built on finding people with potential who were initially hired at the lowest level, training them, and moving them up the corporate ladder. The idea that they need to bring in thousands of Indians is insane considering in prior generations, the people manning those jobs were former cashiers and janitors.

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Lavrov
Lavrov
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 hours ago

Because h1bs will be there for the next 10 years,

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 hour ago

Don’t forget, companies have diversity quotas to fill to meet their ESG requirements. My company for example set a goal to be 62% diverse by 2024. Think about that for a second…. This metric is literally a full on admission that it’s anti white. How can you be 62% “diverse”? What does that mean? It means that if the company was 62% black males that the quota would be met. I can’t wait to get out of corporate America. I’m trying to hold on until I can retire. It will be a miracle of if I can make it. There’s… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 hour ago

Every person who still has 15-20 years to go in corporate America or even small company America has it the same. In fact, age discrimination has long been a fact of corporate life. That has long screwed the people who wanted to be excellent at their role but not deal with the headaches, and frankly folly, of being in middle management. Corporate America and most companies because of private equity, broke that promise long ago. Go into any corporate store now in any urban or near urban area. FedEx. UPS. Apple. Kinkos. … … The staff is almost entirely black.… Read more »

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  RealityRules
1 hour ago

Boomers better start leaving an inheritance, no matter how small. They better start giving money however and how much they can to their offspring now up to the legal limit of tax free. No more of this whoreshit of dying broke and spending everything. A real man was dupont who has 3500 descendants sharing somewhere around 14 billion dollars. Not everyone can do that but anything is better than the consumerism pursued now. Until that becomes the prevailing ethos of boomers, no deal.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jkloi
1 hour ago

@Jkloi, your terms are acceptable. Or should I say, Mr. Zelenskyy.

My kids have nothing to fear re: inheritance unless government manages to steal it all by then. And they are getting plenty in the meantime. Not only did they graduate without having to get a job, they graduated debt-free.

But they are much better behaved than you. Better work on that attitude. I don’t care what your skills, you are not worth having around. I wouldn’t hire you. You are poison.

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Vizzini
Member
Reply to  RealityRules
43 minutes ago

Tired Citizen: “ I’m trying to hold on until I can retire. It will be a miracle of if I can make it.”Reality Rules: In fact, age discrimination has long been a fact of corporate life. I saw the writing on the wall. When I was 54, the company offered buyouts to people over 55. Pretty darn clear message that they didn’t value older employees. I was 54, but going to be 55 in about four months, so I contacted them and asked if they’d give me the 55 buyout. They said yes, and I was done. Now, I’m still below… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 hour ago

BFYTW

They hate Whites, and they want us dead.

Its much easier to eliminate a whole bunch of people if you “unperson” them.

If whitey doesn’t develop his own societies,(which will be hard), he’s gone anyway.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Maxda
2 hours ago

Exactly. The debate isn’t about being humble and working your way up vs lazy youngins. It’s that young whites are told to go to school, work hard and you’ll have a chance for a middle-class life, but when they do that, their employer either hires/promotes the less-qualified black lady or the H1B Indian or immigrant of another flavor.

Both sides of the economic/cultural debate are missing the point.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Maxda
2 hours ago

Btw, Lineman is right. High-skilled “blue-collar” (that term is so outdated) jobs are generally immune from both DIE and immigrants. When you have a high-skill job that needs to be done on time and done right, you get the right guy for the job and would never risk some idiot DIE hire or corrupt Indian.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 hour ago

I don’t know how you can say this anymore about any job. They used to say it about college jobs, and especially in tech, we learned that companies will tolerate an insane amount of incompetence and corruption from the subcontinent if it means not paying Americans. Heck, the first job I think of when I think of “high skilled blue collar job that needs to be done right” I think of somehting like an airplane mechanic, but Boeing and the airlines are all in on DEI, even while the planes are crashing into each other on the runway and the… Read more »

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mycale
30 minutes ago

Mycale: I think you and Citizen are both correct. My husband and I no longer fly for multiple reasons, but DIE (for airline mechanics, pilots, and air traffic controllers) is a big part of it. Trump will not change any of that. And my husband recently dealt with the expected incompetence and credentialism while on a business trip (dealing with hotels, banks, etc.). Where we now live, the bank tellers and county and state employees and utility providers are all White, all capable, and all courteous. The difference is night and day. But it won’t last another generation between immigration,… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 hour ago

Absolutely right!

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Maxda
2 hours ago

Step one is to work hard and to work smart. Step two is to get rid of this inter-generational stereotyping and rivalry garbage. It is one more brother war Whites do not need. Gen Xers who played by the rules are in big trouble as much as the younger generation. They are already a smaller age cohort and becoming managed by millenials, many of whom perpetuated Gamergate, and the smashing nihilism of the aughts and ’10s. They wanted to get ahead immediately. How? Bash the white man. And they did it. The point is, we, White people, Americans, don’t need… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  RealityRules
1 hour ago

This idea I see the past few weeks, that Woke and Feminism are on the way out, because Trump, is ludicrous.

These people run EVERY institution, including the churches. They’re not going anywhere except by ejection.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  ray
26 minutes ago

Lots of people have lots of fantasies and your facts will not disabuse them. No, Trump cannot and will not ‘fix’ AINO and your children and grandchildren will not live in a White country short of drastic and violent action. But people thrive on hopium and label realism depressing ‘black pilling.’ Whatever; I calls them like I sees them.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Maxda
2 hours ago

Same. The rational response is to detach from the system to the greatest extent possible. I do see some very remarkable young whites doing so by entering the trades and opening small businesses. They first did this by refusing to degrade and debase themselves with military service and that removal from the rot has spread to most other areas of the system.

ray
ray
Reply to  Maxda
1 hour ago

Yup. Young men — especially young white men — are expected to strive and fight for a system that openly loathes them, gleefully discriminates against them, and then calls it all progress and justice and righteousness.

Ain’t gonna end well.

Mycale
Mycale
3 hours ago

This topic feels like a doom spiral – on the one hand you have the broken promises that the older generations made to the young, and the betrayal as they chose foreigners and brown people over their own. On the other hand, young people are intensely self-absorbed and have a totally unrealistic vision of life, driven by social media’s focus on material excess. Of course, they didn’t invent social media, so I don’t even blame them for this. That said, I see so much whining on social media from the few zoomers who actually did manage to get good jobs… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Mycale
2 hours ago

Nice post.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mycale
2 hours ago

Private concerns will crash and fail right along with the public sector given these trends, yes. This actually started a decade or so back with a few former Blue Chip corps, and this is on the horizon for GE and so forth. Some like Boeing have tried to pull back but it very likely is too late for them to do so.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Mycale
51 minutes ago

I worried about this exact outcome when most of my age-group’s young professionals took their first job, then immediately contacted the headhunters. Yes, it resulted in double the salary in a few years, but at the cost that no company could trust that their hires were using them as anything other than stepping stones. Training is expensive, and you are not contributing very much those first few years. And once you start producing more than you cost, you jump ship. There was no longer any company loyalty, but it wasn’t the companies reneging on the deal.

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george 1
george 1
4 hours ago

Good article. In the medium to long term white kids are doomed. They no longer have a country. I tire of arguing this with some people of my (boomer) generation.

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  george 1
3 hours ago

Yep, not only have the rulers turned the country into a smash and grab, it’s now a swarthy, “diverse” one. When we were growing up, the country was ~ 90% White and the future seemed bright. Today, it’s maybe 2/3 of that and it looks pretty damned dark over on the horizon…

Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble
Reply to  george 1
3 hours ago

Off topic: I was recently thrust into a social setting with some fellow boomers. One jackass started talking Trump and politics. Listening to these people discuss politics and current events is like listening to a child discuss the Easter Bunny. Their worldview is based on mainstream media (I include Fox) agitprop. Hopeless.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Barney Rubble
3 hours ago

Absolutely. It’s hard to believe they actually believe the s*** they’re spewing. Are they watching those disgusting harpies on “the view” or what. Talk about zero critical thinking skills.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Barney Rubble
2 hours ago

The brainwashing works.

Galahad
Galahad
Reply to  Barney Rubble
43 minutes ago

I once heard it put by Woe of Stone Choir on twitter that arguing with the average boomer is like yelling instructions to the coach on TV while watching sports. It doesn’t matter what you say and they’re not listening. A lot of what passes for “discourse” among that cohort is repeating platitudes and talking points they got from whichever cable news talk show they watch and smugly waiting for everybody else to nod and smile. Of course political discourse in the younger generations is largely memetic, but at least the memes originate from the bottom rather than getting handed… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Barney Rubble
16 minutes ago

Sounds like you ran into the people who comment on stories at MSN and NYT!

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  george 1
2 hours ago

Whites and North Asians are going to have to create their own society and businesses…Koreans already do this to some extent, and with success…Because the Indians who take over HR are never going to hire either one of them…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  pyrrhus
21 minutes ago

Why do this? Why group Whites with north Asians? WHY? We and they are not the same people. We don’t share genetics (unless you are one of the guys with yellow fever and hapa kids) or culture. I wish the Koreans in Korea well but they are not my people. My sole concern is White people and a future for White children.

Wkathman
Wkathman
2 hours ago

I feel like I’m part of the first generation that can reasonably argue that today’s kids have it worse than we did when we were their age. My teen years were in the 1990s. Sure, maybe the economic situation is slightly cushier at present, yet the culture has degenerated into absolute dreck and immiseration. There was a noticeable amount of anti-White propaganda when I was a youth, but not nearly to the degree and level of ferocity that it has reached in the last decade or so. Education/academia and media have basically done everything in their power to alienate young… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
3 hours ago

Times were simpler when less than 5% went to college…You worked on your parents’ farm, joined the military, or went to the big city to seek your fortune..and everyone knew there were no guarantees, because life was an adventure…

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 hours ago

According to an internet search about 20M people are enrolled in college right now. So that means that ~5M people on an annual basis are graduating and looking for work. Does the system have five million jobs for them? Of course not, especially when you factor in that the regime wants foreign helots doing the work, not Americans. Yet every year, five million more enroll…

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Mycale
2 hours ago

No. Graduation rates vary, but a quick search says the nationwide rate is 62%. I’m sure that is inflated as the education cartel has been fudging their numbers for decades. That is another huge problem in this discussion, the millions who took on debt and never got the degree that was supposed to be the golden ticket to the middle class. The only way I could see to correct this would be to force colleges to cover the student loan costs of drop outs, but even that would just lead to comic levels of grade inflation beyond what happens already.… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 hours ago

True. But those white kids didn’t have to worry about their path to success being thwarted by companies passing them over for some DIE black lady or a cheap foreigner.

That’s what this debate is about, not how kids these days are lazy and entitled.

Son
Son
4 hours ago

Merely for perspective, I’ve hired a number of people with their master’s degrees in the past near 10 years. It’s remarkable how little they know in their fields. Often it’s been almost nothing. They also demand raises and salaries that are so out of whack with reality… and when they get a healthy raise on a healthy salary, they demand more immediately. They struggle to understand how a non-mega-corp might not be rolling in millions. You also literally have to reprogram them from the ground up, even to think critically. We’re talking about folks in their 30s too not their… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Son
2 hours ago

Great comment.

I’d only add there is a vestigal percentage of folks of all ages that still spend their days at work, “walking for dollars.”

Edit: The trouble with most Masters and many Bachelors programs is that they are far too theoretical in nature.

That means those grads will only tend to be effective in academic research roles.

There isn’t much place for them in industry because serious corporate research is extremely rare these days.

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Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Son
2 hours ago

The Masters degree creates a whole another level of elevated expectations, especially if they haven’t done any meaningful work yet. These programs exist to generate revenue for the schools not produce a needed workforce well trained to perform vital functions. The government needs to step in and end most of them.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Barnard
52 minutes ago

The government needs to step in and end most of them.”

The government doesn’t need to do anything. Stop subsudizing student loans and higher ed. Let loans be discharged via bankruptcy. This isn’t rocket science, i don’t worship the market, but if you let it work it generally does what needs to be done.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
2 hours ago

Our kids are not lazy. They aren’t stupid. They’re KIDS. They’re supposed to be assholes, foolish, and unfocused. It is our JOBS as parents to deal with that. Not only our own, but everyone else’s kids too. It’s called COMMUNITY. We can’t even hold our families together and most of our women NEVER grew up. Our schools are run by lunatics, perverts and turd brained vibrants. Mike Judge, the creator of Beavis and Butthead – took a lot of heat for sending the wrong message to kids with the cartoon which featured two retarded antisocial kids trying to deal with… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Filthie
1 hour ago

Yes, we need to be honest about the state of the young workforce. People who have no experience managing lower class workers have very little understanding of how difficult it is to keep them functional. I have a friend who previously worked as a fast food regional manager. I asked him how difficult it was to keep the restaurants staffed. He said unemployment is 4% and 5% of people are on drugs. Their goal was 100% turnover annually. This was before widespread legal pot, which makes this problem even worse.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 hours ago

The most dismaying aspect of this latest dust-up has been watching X’ers and, even more remarkably, Millennials, who have gone from correctly blasting Boomers over their detachment from reality to kicking the shit out of Zoomers over legitimate economic complaints. The hypocrisy and mindlessness are jarring. Teenage jobs of yore did suck but they at least prepared young people for the workplace in seemingly insignificant but actually vital ways such as punctuality. Those jobs to the extent they even exist any longer largely go to Jose and Raj; Shanika never did them in the first place. Where the real cruelty… Read more »

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Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 hours ago

For better or worse, boomers are leaving the picture. At some point, kicking them around isn’t helpful. The youngest boomers are 60, and according to a search the workforce is only around 15% boomer at this point. Millennials and zoomers are going to be locked in the room that is our society and have to figure out a path forward. I was worried about the disappearance of teenage jobs at least a decade ago. My job as a teenager mostly sucked but ultimately it was a good thing for me and most people I talk to feel the same way.… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mycale
1 hour ago

but I also think the Christmas massacre of Vivek followed by the Panda Express debacle actually is the beginning of that discussion. From your lips to God’s ears. Given how policymakers often are detached from reality it was a positive thing to see this inanity shoved down the Tech Bros’ throats. As someone else pointed out on this thread, watching the political fossils try to destroy much younger nominees in the Senate confirmation hearings and still come off as the retarded and corrupt buffoons they are also is satisfying. To be clear, I wasn’t Boomer-bashing–to the degree it matters, I… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Jack Dobson
48 minutes ago

Outside of STEM, young white men should avoid all college with extreme prejudice. There is nothing there for them except constant shaming and disenfranchisement by coddled white girls and the Of Colored activists. And there are no jobs waiting for them after college.

Enter the trades, arrange internet income, or simply hide from the malevolent ruling class and culture. The latter is what millions of them already are doing.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  ray
43 minutes ago

We do need embeds in the professions but I generally agree otherwise.

Carl B.
Carl B.
2 hours ago

Youth will be served. I watched a bit of the Senate confirmation hearings. Trump’s mostly GenX nominees were far more intelligent, wise, and personable than the wrinkled, repugnant, moronic fossils with their stupid questions.

GenX is taking the helm. I’m a little encouraged today.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Carl B.
2 hours ago

I’d bet many of those Xers clearly remember being latchkey kids that wound up being responsible for one or more younger siblings.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Carl B.
2 hours ago

Encouraged, but there are not enough GenX and they are sandwiched between the Boomers and their offspring (who VOTE).

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Carl B.
1 hour ago

The fossils seem absolutely clueless as to the degree to which they are beclowing themselves and that is particularly delicious.

Maniac
Maniac
3 hours ago

I pray that more young people – especially White men – will come to know God these days, because they’re not going to find purpose anywhere else. Marriage, childrearing and homeownership are out of reach but for a select few.

ray
ray
Reply to  Maniac
38 minutes ago

Seconded. Absolutely correct. The past half-century, the nation has not merely turned away from white men, but turned ON them. With shouts of conquest and glee! Boys and young white men should use the rejection and disenfranchisement by the culture as an opportunity to connect with Father. Turn away from this evil nation and back to a Source who will NOT betray you and stab you in the back. My generation of men still hewed to the Romantic Tradition, and put their faith in women. Listen to popular music of the Fifties and Sixties if you imagine otherwise. And those… Read more »

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
3 hours ago

All sides have a point. Young people today definitely have way too high of expectations across all fronts. And their pussies that complain about the unfairness of life and petty setbacks. Overall, I’d say that they been very poorly served by the education system which has primarily instilled a sense of entitlement and idealistic expectations. On the other hand, opportunity in the US is much more constrained than it was generations ago. Youth today are wealthier in the base materialistic sense, but poorer in the ability to go out on their own and build success in unpredictable ways. As an… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Dinodoxy
36 minutes ago

Yes. A good share of the problem I’m seeing with regards to employability is the same as why even the ones who supposedly are seeking wife material come up dry — that stupid little screen is the only way they can communicate.

I’ve taken a chance on people with marketing degrees only to find out they have no people skills. When I want someone who can talk to people, I’m not finding much outside someone in his mid to upper 40s to early 60s, and we all know what that means re: health insurance.

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Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
2 hours ago

“Those over the age of fifty love telling stories about the terrible jobs they had as young people, while no one under the age of thirty complains about not having had crappy jobs to make ends meet. In fact, the main complaint from college graduates in their twenties is that they have crappy jobs.” Those crud jobs that prior generations had available after getting their high school diploma now frequently require a 4-year degree, and those college graduates taking those no-hope dead-end jobs often have the weight of student debt of $100,000 (or more) weighing them down. Furthermore employment is… Read more »

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  thezman
1 hour ago

My freinds in the building industry say that we need millions of starter homes ($200,000-$400,000 depending on location) but the land costs are too high to build homes in that price range. So they are building town homes. A lot of baby boomers are not downsizing as its cheaper to stay in their homes than move. So folks looking to move up can’t. This also crimps starter home supplies and increases prices. Immigration also increases demand and prices.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  MikeCLT
48 minutes ago

“you will own nothing and like it”

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  MikeCLT
9 minutes ago

How many of those starter homes would actually be for the shrinking number of Whites? Most people here still seem stuck on the fantasy that AINO is still 60-70% European White, when the reality is barely 50%. And east and south Asians often live in multigenerational homes – often the same size White would consider comfortable for one nuclear family. And they combine financial resources to buy them. Whites have no chance these days.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  thezman
12 minutes ago

“When I left high school, the rule was your mortgage or rent should equal one week take home pay. The typical mortgage payment now is two weeks gross.”

When I bought my first home, the rule was rent up to 40% of take home, because it was something you could leave on short notice, but a hard cap of 28% for a mortgage. That was Minneapolis.

Where you lived must have had a lower cost of living. Unless you wanted to live in a boarding house, there were no rentals available for 1 week’s take home.

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My Comment
My Comment
2 hours ago

Superb summation of the society: a smash and grab. A couple of other aspects of the modern society need to be noted: young white men are the least prepared to deal with the modern society and are the most lied to. A young white man is told he has privilege and if he works hard he can have the American dream including a house, girl and and the necessary good job. Reality is there might as well be “White men need not apply”signs especially when it comes to management. Consequently the good job, girl and house are increasingly out of… Read more »

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ray
ray
Reply to  My Comment
29 minutes ago

Yup. Exactly.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
1 hour ago

“for a world that should not exist.”
A very poetic way of putting this feminist multiculturalism gay tyranny. For those who remember the before times it is staggering thay america is now GAE.

You know how I figure there was no social contract? When I was never taught a damn thing in school and all the girls hooked up with the 15% of cool guys. Every man for himself.

Whatever
Whatever
3 hours ago

I am not on twitter so I don’t have the full context for the discussion. The crux of this seems to be that no one wants to accept a lifestyle lower than their parents. Unfortunately, that’s the reality for almost all younger people these days. For the most part I don’t think any generation as truly accepted this. High schoolers, and even college grads, typically work low skilled jobs. Today, depending on your location, these jobs also look like bus stops in Tijuana or Haiti. The lucky grads who find high skilled work, say in tech or finance, will find… Read more »

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Whatever
3 hours ago

The big fight on Twitter was over foreign visa employees. Go to school, get a tech degree, start a career and work your way up – that was the deal.

Then they all get fired and replaced by Indian indentured servants with fake degrees making half the pay. That’s the betrayal.

And anyone who has been in the inner workings of corporate operations knows that working with the Indians is a nightmare and not worth the savings.

Then… Elon Musk complains that the generation of unemployed 25 year-olds he replaced with foreigners aren’t having enough kids.

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  Whatever
2 hours ago

My favorite meme i saw on the Twitter fight:

“If I had two bullets and was faced with an enemy and a traitor, I would turn around and shoot my grandchildren twice. – boomers”

Thats the crux of the entire fight. Betrayal over immigration and the contract by fucking boomers who would gladly destroy an inheritance for one more fucking bruce Springsteen concert.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Jkloi
1 hour ago

Your boomer bile is vile. There are millions of ‘boomers’ like me who had no part in all this shit you’re all bitching about and I think the entire situation sucks. I myself got pushed out of a pretty decent paying IT job after 40 years by some young goddamn dot and a witch of a white female manager. So there’s that. And sure it’s no picnic today, it never was. I was in HS and collage in the 70s, talk about suck. No jobs, stagflation, oil crisis, 20+% interest rates. In retrospect I don’t ever remember one of my… Read more »

Jkloi
Jkloi
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
1 hour ago

Well you should, just not enough silents and “greatests” around to shit on for giving us fucking lbj , ted kennedy and the rest of the shit that came with those freaks. But some lived long enough to make our lives miserable like that asshole biden and his republican contemporary mccain.

I mean good god, did nobody think opening the floodgates to the world and killing freedom of association would lead to horrible outcomes for their posterity?

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jkloi
7 minutes ago

No, I’d think most of us understood that. Don’t be such a moron. Think. Just exactly how much did the 70% opposition to open borders make on policy during the Bidet administration?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
1 hour ago

Economic prospects started to decline with the Oil Shock of 1973. There have been ups and downs but the trend overall has held. People remember the flush of the Eighties and Nineties but that sort of was the Indian Summer of the American economy. Winter came roaring back.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jkloi
31 seconds ago

That sounds like an excellent meme with quite the kernel of truth. And yes – there are plenty of Boomers who fit the stereotype – but not all. And, as noted here before, most Boomers were too young to vote on the immigration and civil rights acts – that was ‘Greatests’ and ‘Silents’ – but Boomers did wholly embrace the results and pushed diversity on all Whites worldwide.

solitary saxon
solitary saxon
Reply to  Whatever
17 minutes ago

Our problem is whitey was raised to be “nice” because that was a marker of civilization, however, now, when a darki pushes past you to get on the bus first, it will be necessary for you to grab them by the hair, pull them back, and explain that this is America and you don’t do that here and it has to be done every single time.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whatever
6 minutes ago

Or perhaps – instead of grinding away trying to compete with billions of non-White aliens – Whites could focus on a parallel society, helping, hiring, and promoting their own. Why invest in a system that wants White people dead? So they can work under Indian bosses and marry a Han?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
2 hours ago

The largest gap for the younger generation appears to be reasonably priced starter housing that is physically co-incident with decent paying jobs. Yes, there is reasonably priced housing in lower cost of living areas. The trouble is that there are not large amounts of decent paying jobs in those areas because small and medium-sized manufacturing has been gutted in this country. Remote work is an option, but that appears to be on the decline for various reasons. Builders are shying away from constructing starter housing because it has a lower profit margin. That is a rational economic decision on their… Read more »

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Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 hour ago

Inflation is the goal of AINO’s economic system. You’ll hear them talk about their 2% inflation “target” all the time. Which slowly leads to the same place that higher inflation leads to quickly. But most of the people are so gaslit that they’ve been persuaded that there’s something healthy about 2%. Healthy for bankers, but not for most of us. Thus, it was inevitable that a point would be reached when younger generations couldn’t attain the standard of living of the older ones. Regardless of the other factors under discussion. Perpetual inflation guarantees it. The only cure is deflation. Which… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 hour ago

A 33 trillion deficit likely means deflation never will be on the table (intentionally).

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jack Dobson
44 minutes ago

Actually its the opposite. 36 trillion in DEBT makes deflation all but inevitable. Either you default and get deflation, government shrinks, corporations shrink and the population shrinks. Or you get printing, hyperinflation, .gov stays in control a bit longer but still fails and we have corporate warlords fighting over the remains if any survive.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jack Dobson
40 minutes ago

Deflation is a force of nature, hyperinflation is a force of man.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
35 minutes ago

Trump’s particular brand of economic Abeism requires continued deficit finance. War in Ukraine and Iran is not merely about Zion and its diaspora, but also keeping BRICS at bay.

Abeism is also why Trump is serious about Greenland, and ultimately, Canada. Mineral wealth is another form of reserve currency, and 25 million hosers have an embarrasment of riches in that respect.

ray
ray
1 hour ago

I was 29 and had been through military, college, and numerous minimum-wage or no-wage (internship) gigs before I got my first offer at a decent job. The prospective employers could see I’d paid dues and was relentless in pursuit of secure employment. Perhaps today’s youth want good jobs presented to them? Like the Participation Ribbon they all get in gym? It only works that way for the female half of ‘today’s youth’, who are perennial favorites for employment in government and corporations. Females have to be total screw-ups not to get hired by one of those foul entities. Boys and… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
1 hour ago

It was amusing to watch Rufo go full Ramaswamy on the “Panda Express”. At this point, the anger of young white men is the only thing that will save us, but not all of us.

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
2 hours ago

I think one of the problems for American kids going to college is the false assumption that just having a college degree will guarantee them a secure career and bright future. But when they show up for an interview with a degree in gender studies, they wonder why no one is interested in hiring them. Of course one has to wonder who would even offer an interview to someone with that sort of degree in the first place. We can always blame a culture of smartphones, online gaming and whatever distraction you might point to for why these kids are… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 hour ago

To be fair, the concern isn’t over the kid with the gender studies or other liberal arts degree. Highly talented and skilled STEM grads are being passed over for H1B’s and vibrants with far less qualification. The deliberate anti-white and anti-male discrimination is a very real problem. The Bay area kid you described likely will live at home into her Thirties but that was utterly predictable. As for Germany, yes, I have family there and what you describe is spot on. While the decline has been ongoing for a while, the Ukraine madness really accelerated matters. Any European kid who… Read more »

Vegetius
Vegetius
2 hours ago

If I could pick a half-dozen regular commenters from this site and hand them control of all social media, things would begin to turn around in less than six weeks.

As the Yogi Vedas teach us, half the problem is ninety percent mental.

Tars Tarkas
Member
34 minutes ago

Part of the problem of expectations are the endless lies on social media. The lifestyle influencer paints a very false picture of her existence on platforms like Instagram and TikTok. They think they should have such a life by 21.

OTOH, a lot of their complaints are very real and worthy of our attention. When I was a young guy, you could buy an old but running car for 500 Dollars. You could rent a small apartment for 5-700 a month in a reasonable neighborhood. Plus the dating market is all screwed up.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
44 minutes ago

It is not an unrealistic expectation for a native born young person to not have to compete with an infinite number of indentured foreigners for entry level jobs, in any field.

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Melissa
Melissa
1 hour ago

Great post, Z.

A couple years ago, I placed a call to the local papa John’s number and spoke with an incoherent Indian woman. I asked her if she was at the restaurant and she said something about a call service. I heard a rooster crow and asked her if she was in America and told her we were no longer interested in ordering anything.
The kid who answered the phone at Pizza Hut to take our order attends the local high school.

Vizzini
Member
48 minutes ago

That said, the youth of the past did not like working in high school and would have preferred to hang out with friends playing video games. I liked my high school job. I worked at a veterinary hospital cleaning cages and doing other dirty work, eventually getting some more responsible assignments and skills. The main boss, the head vet, could be extremely verbally abusive, but while I hated getting yelled at, it was like having a drill sergeant — I probably deserved most of the yelling I received. It toughened me up. It meant a lot to me when I… Read more »

Galahad
Galahad
51 minutes ago

There are a couple problems. When the boomers fondly recall their time as fry-cooks putting themselves through college and making rent, they’re conceding the point. They were able to put themselves through college AND make rent flipping burgers. Real estate and education are two of the biggest inflationary commodities these days, and nobody’s making enough slinging fries to even get close to covering rent without several roommates, much less education. I worked several jobs during college and during the summer. The money I made defrayed a lot of the expenses from my state-school education, but they couldn’t come close to… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 hour ago

It’ll be alright. Granted, I’m behind schedule, but I have a freaking BFA, and I’m making decent money doing fairly high-skilled and technical labor that I worked my way into. Not done, either. Maybe go back to school and get that profession my family wanted for me. Thinking about it. Special, stupid case, this one 😃 Point being, the worm has turned, in my experience. After the collapse of conservatism and the woke beat down, after a decade of laboring in obscurity for me, doors are starting to open. Methinks society is finally starting to figure out we don’t have… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
2 hours ago

I think there is a lot of opportunity for young people today. There are openings for real engineering disciplines (chemical, electrical, mechanical, materials science) and it has never easier to become an airline pilot than it is today. What is hitting young people over the head is the huge costs associated with education, health care, and housing. The first two are the results of decades ofoligopolistic corruption and the latter a result of decades of FED cheap money induced asset inflation. All three of these must be rolled back, not only to save young people, but to save our society… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
2 hours ago

Engineering pay is not that great unless one is able to find the rare good engineering job in a low-cost of living area.

The other problem with STEM jobs is that they tend to lack the intangible benefits that are found in fields like medicine, finance/business, and law.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
42 minutes ago

My younger brother got his degree in Mechanical engineering, his first job was basically working the phones for orders at a bearing company. The old guys would call him on his day off to ask him questions about size and such. He decided that was no path for him.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
2 hours ago

“I think there is a lot of opportunity for young people today.”
Yes x100, but…
There is also a lot of opportunity in China working at the Apple mega assembly campus #24 or third shift at Wells Fargo/ JPMorgan in central India.

I have young family members living in SF/ San Jose making well over $200k a year. They are POOR and, if they remain, will not marry.

Ranch houses of $2 million plus private schools at $50k = terminal phase of mouse eutopia.

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