The Great Economic Shakeup

Imagine a society made up of farmers who produce what they need to live but also trade extra to one another for things they do not produce. This is not the most efficient society, but as long as everyone is self-sufficient, it works. At the minimum, each farm produces enough food for the family, even in lean years. Perhaps like the Amish, they voluntarily come together on larger projects that are shared by everyone and individual projects that require a lot of hands.

One day, someone comes along with an offer to one of the farmers. Instead of that farmer trading with the other farmers, this stranger will buy the excess for what the farmer wants in trade. He makes this deal with other farmers and before long he makes his living as the middleman. He does the trades between the farmers, keeping a little extra for himself in the process. Before long there are others doing similar and they all live in what they call town.

Now, imagine all the farmers decide to quit farming altogether and move to town to be traders and merchants. Obviously, that cannot work as now there are no farmers to produce the things the traders are trading, and the merchants are selling. Some of the farmers can quit, but not all. Additionally, some can begin to specialize to the point where they are no longer self-sufficient. They now rely on the traders and merchants in town to get the things they need to live.

In other words, the original model works just fine, but it is not efficient. The farmers are all just above the sustenance line. The introduction of middlemen makes for more efficient use of farm labor, so everyone can do a little better. Specialization in farming and in trading increases productivity. Somewhere in this model there is a mix of farmers, traders, merchants, and specialization that attains the maximum amount of productivity for this society.

That productivity, however, must benefit everyone. Otherwise, we get the problem of the farmers looking at the townspeople and deciding they would prefer to be a trader, rather than a farmer. There also must be a balance with regards to specialization, as this could make the productive class overly dependent upon the middlemen, who can then maximize their profits from the productive class. A society with a small number of people controlling all the profit is inherently unstable.

Therein lies the problem Trump inherits in terms of the economy. Starting in the 1970’s with the microprocessor revolution, the American economy has been hellbent on maximizing efficiency. Wherever technology can increase the output from labor, it has been done, often overdone. In fact, the data shows that efficiency has gone up far faster than wages, so we tipped past the happy balance long ago. While the overall economy continues to grow, it grows only for a minority of citizens.

On top of that, we long ago blew past the balance between producers and middlemen described in that prior scenario. A couple of generations of Americans have been trained to work in the middleman economy, often doing busy work related to boutique beliefs like diversity of climate change. Meanwhile, the productive sector atrophied or was shipped off to other parts of the world. The American economy is more like a global counting house now, rather than a self-sufficient economy.

The global bank model has run its course. The rest of the world, for various reasons, is disconnecting from the American model. The rest of the world is unwilling to do like the farmers in that model and turn everything over to the middlemen. That town full of merchants and middlemen is noticing that the farmers are not coming to town to trade their goods as much they did in the past. Suddenly, the skim from the work of the farmers is getting too small to sustain the townsfolk.

It is not a perfect way to think about it, but it helps understand the economic problems Trump inherits as president. It is why he is convinced that shifting from a tax system focused on labor to one focused on trade is a winner. It will help shift labor from busy work in cubicles back to doing productive things because the cost of imports will rise relative to locally produced items. Foreign producers will adjust by investing in production inside America.

The practical problem Trump inherits is the American economic model evolved to favor the middleman over the producer. Over time it led to the imbalance we see between producers and facilitators. It also led to a narrowing of profit to a shrinking number of players in the economy. In some ways, the American economy has become a digital version of the Bronze Age palace economies in that everything flows through financial and information centers that operate as skimming houses.

Fixing the imbalances within the rules of the system is impossible. This post by an economist calling himself Jack Rasmus explains how the tools available to government no longer work to address the practical imbalances. The people controlling Joe Biden poured almost four trillion in extra money into the system, but it did nothing to mitigate the problem of shrinking middle-class budgets. Prices keep rising while wages remain static, which means most people are getting poorer.

The only way out of the current trap is through systemic changes. That is why Trump is fixated on tariffs as an economic and policy tool. On the one hand this brings costs back in line with prices, so the market regains some coherence. If the real cost of an item is in the price of the item, then people will reward the genuinely lower cost items. In the current model, the cost of cheap goods turns up in the loss of social capital, delayed family formation and, of course, high crime.

A simple example is prepared food. These are cheap for the consumer but are packed with hidden costs. The refrigeration units used to be made in America, but those plants were shipped abroad by the miracle or tariff free trades deals. Of course, the plants are often staffed with cheap foreign labor, the cost of which turns up in your property taxes, the crowded schools, and the healthcare system. That frozen pizza turns out to be vastly more expensive than the price on the box.

Multiply this out all over the economy and it is easy to see the problem. Fifty years ago, middle-class families could get by on one income. Today, it takes two-incomes which is why there are far fewer families. Ours is an economy that looks prosperous on the outside, but the internals are littered with hidden costs. The only way to remedy this is to bring the costs back to the front of that frozen pizza and that can only be done through systemic change.

There are three challenges. One is the small number of people profiting from the current model will fight reform. That is not insurmountable. Trump having some of the richest men on earth in his corner will help a great deal. The bigger problem is the transition cost, which will come in the form of recession. There is no escape from it. The early 1980’s were the cost of transitioning from the productive economy to the middleman economy, so expect similar as we transition back.

The biggest challenge in this project is a dysfunctional managerial class that sees any change as a challenge to their position. The middleman economy was very good for the sorts of people who have a long list of impressive sounding credentials but view tangible accomplishment as a disqualifier. The army of managers in the managerial state cannot survive a transition out of a middleman economy. Like the aristocracy in 18th century France, they will not go quietly.


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My Comment
1 day ago

To make matters worse, the managerial class is heavily populated with members of protected groups. Trump will need to accept greater black unemployment as just one example. Since disparate impact is a sin, he will also be blocked by courts.

There will also be a lot of cat ladies shrieking about not being able to afford to feed their cats.

Ending an economic system geared to just shaving off money each step of the way will also be anti Semitic. That would be like a new Holocaust.

I would love to see Trump do all these things.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  My Comment
1 day ago

Trump and the Tech Bros gave away the game last week. They mean to replace Americans with Indians and other groups. The middle men will be replaced with other more efficient middle men and managers. Of course the ultimate top tier “Middle Men” will remain the same however the lower tier ones will be replaced.

Notice Trump doesn’t even think Americans can be good waiters.

Piffle
Piffle
Reply to  george 1
1 day ago

It’s okay that Trump is possibly a transitional leader. In order for his changes to last, they have continue beyond 2029.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

Exactly. So what took 2-3 generations to occur, takes 4 years to correct? Doubtful. The crux of the problem is not the ”cure” so much as the length of “treatment”. Will the patient endure, or die in the process?

ray
ray
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

Yes. It’ll take Trump plus a Bump next time to turn this oceanliner.

NoName
NoName
Reply to  george 1
1 day ago

My Comment: “the managerial class is heavily populated with members of protected groups” george 1: “They mean to replace Americans with Indians and other groups. The middle men will be replaced with other more efficient middle men and managers.” The knives have been sharpened for the Bobby Jr hearings: Robert Kennedy allies fear he could lose US Senate confirmation vote https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4293097/posts Everything we thought we knew about how the world works is nothing but mis-directional bunk & nonsense. There is one and only one agenda, and that agenda is GLOBAL DEPOPULATIONISM. V@xxines Uber Alles. Forget everything you thought you knew… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  NoName
1 day ago

As I’ve said before, RFKJ is the one the rino senators will spend their political capital to deny. He would break too many prominent rice bowls. I’d prefer to be wrong.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

The medical industrial complex has more money than any single institution on Earth save for the military industrial complex.

Either one could double what they are currently paying Congress without breaking a sweat.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Trump can make a recess appointment, but he’ll probably just replace RFK with a Pajeet. “I love India. Indians. Great people. Love ’em. I get along great with Modi.”

And that’ll be that.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  NoName
1 day ago

At least the globalists at the top have in mind to eliminate most of us.

Ronehjr
Ronehjr
Reply to  george 1
1 day ago

As I was reading I was thinking the same thing. Maybe in one of Marvels many alternate universes the authors fantasies will play out, but not in this one.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  My Comment
1 day ago

The process will be slow to be sure, but if offshoring becomes unprofitable, it must be brought back to this shore. Note, the “great migration” of the twenties of Blacks from the South was a product of Northern factories needing labor in their plants. There seems to me to be a possibility for employment of the working class, perhaps at the expense of some middlemen—but this is a shift, not an elimination of jobs. Blacks may gain as well as lose.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Blacks would gain from a decent education system with less money sloshing around for overpaid union members and more focus on standards and discipline, teaching students skills and trades for success and independence rather than meaningless and useless college degrees.
(Well, wouldn’t we ALL gain from that?)

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jannie
1 day ago

Do you really believe that overpaid union members are holding blacks down?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

No, the teacher’s unions hold down the schools from achieving the best they can with the material they have. They do this because they don’t give a crap about students, but rather they promote the interests of their teachers above the students/parents interests.

The list of support for this assertion is long, but has been touched on before. The teacher’s unions are politically extreme Left. They refuse to allow any alternative to public schools. They lobby consistently for higher salaries and less work load. They protect to the extreme incompetent teachers from accountability.

What can go wrong?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

All unions are dedicated to the proposition that their members should get more pay for less work done more poorly.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 day ago

Kind of true, but I still support unions. Probably not in their current form (almost all of them support left wing politicians/parties), but they are about the best hope workers have when dealing with their bosses.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
11 hours ago

Anyone who has worked for a corporation knows why unions are necessary (‘though not ideal).

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

You’ll have to smash the AFT and the NEA. AFT is an affiliate of the AFL-CIO, but it’ll have to be done anyway.

Concurrently, reduce the female percentage of teachers and professors to 10%, with these concentrated primarily in K through second grade. After that, boys need and deserve male teachers and male guidance.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ray
1 day ago

Funny you should mention men in teaching positions for the appropriate modeling to young men—especially in HS. I remember now my years in HS—way back when. My chem teacher was a WWII vet who rebuilt Sherman’s in the rear while in Europe. He had stories…. My teacher in World Affairs (or whatever they called it) was a fighter pilot recently retired after a few tours in Vietnam. He had stories…. My PE/Typing instructors were a couple of Marines with Vietnam tours. They didn’t have stories. They just treated us like boots in basic. PE became geared to passing the current… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Me too, very blessed.

Those days are coming back to this world. If America doesn’t want to be part of that she will be left behind.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  ray
1 day ago

As I just pointed out to my 18 y.o. college freshman son, it only recently occurred to me that I had only ONE female teacher between 9th grade (HS was an old-time Jesuit prep school) and my last semester of college. ONE! (A nice woman; I was a star pupil in her Russian Lit. class, and she was “nudging me toward a continued relationship with The Academy.” But I wanted to go join the World of Grownups, and she became – get this! – unreconcilably miffed at my nonchalance and desire to finish my degree “on schedule” – that is,… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

I don’t necessarily disagree about the unions, but is that a bad thing? Unions represent the teachers, that’s why they exist. The kids have plenty of representation and advocates. It’s easy to stand outside the system and ‘point and shriek’ about unions like the average Republican. But they ain’t the ones surrounded by 30 kids all day. When those kids are from the inner city, it ain’t exactly an easy environment. In some sense, this is what they signed up for, but they also were sold a bill of goods in university about how the diverse keeds are just misunderstood… Read more »

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

I like unions, too, but I despise Union Bosses, a “type” that invariably tends to be among THE Crookedest…
Anyway, education, past basic numeracy/literacy, should be discouraged for a large (but indeterminate) percentage of the population.
Sorry, but…not sorry.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  rasqball
1 day ago

I agree. Up until the 50s, the HS graduation rate was in the 40s.` While I am sure there were economic hard cases in that drop-out rate, most dropped out when their ability to learn new material hit a brick wall determined by a combination of work ethic and IQ. Insisting on keeping kids in school is probably the single largest problem in public education.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

Insisting on keeping kids in school is probably the single largest problem in public education.”

Yep, you’ve hit on it. We keep students in school who should not be there. Thus disrupting the education of all others and the lowering of standards so that we can pretent the “races are equal”. Couple that with court mandated “mainstreaming” of students with physical and emotional disability and you have a recipe for mediocrity.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
13 hours ago

I grew up around a lot of dropouts from that era, and for the most part, it was not that they couldn’t handle it, but rather that they could not come up with a reason to learn junk that they would never need in their chosen career. At that time, mostly ranching and wrenching.

Somewhere along the line we got the nutty idea that kids actually need to know something called “social studies” and it’s been downhill from there.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

All you’ve said is true. The good teachers are caught in the middle. I am at heart not “anti-union”, but there are some over-reaches I have problems with that I won’t go over. I have worked in union shops myself and seen both sides.

Carrie
Carrie
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 hours ago

Agree and can confirm. As I suggested above: maybe there is some kind of minimal level of public school for the lowest achievers that becomes a feeder school for the vocations such as janitor or garbage man, for our higher brethren. And then the vocational schools for Our People are completely separate institutions, where it’s a straight meritocracy for engineers or carpenters or plumbers. im just spitballing some ideas But I know that current Millienal elem teachers did NOt sign up for 2-3 Sha’qwans in their class, taking up all the teaching / discipline time while 17 other Bobbys, Chens,… Read more »

Carrie
Carrie
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
14 hours ago

Sorry– spellcheck on phone changed my “jogger brethren” description to “higher brethren.”

Coincidence?

probably not.

Carrie
Carrie
Reply to  Compsci
14 hours ago

Compsci: I agree with you on the hard Left teachers unions. But with regard to them lobbying for a lower workload: that may be true (I am not in one), BUt I can confirm that teachers in the gubmit schools (elem) are having more and more laws and regs pushed on them that they are supposed to implement. And it suffocates teacher creativity and ability to focus on what they want to do and / or see that individual students need. But at this point, the ones who are in the classroom are at minimum Millenials, and so have never… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Jannie
1 day ago

The problem isn’t that we don’t have a decent education system for them. This is just a different version of blame whitey for everything. Like we’re somehow withholding education from them because we are mean and we hate them and setting them up for failure. If we set up an experiment where we bussed 100% of the kids in the ghetto to a “good school” and bussed 100% of the kids from the “good school” to the school in the ghetto, the school in the ghetto would become a top performing school. The “good school” would become one of the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

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I’ll tell ya’ something, Tars. You can’t polish a turd.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

Bingo! And antecedent to the kids, it’s the baby mamas and baby daddies. It’s a whole culture; a whole mentality. And it’s richly subsidized by cash transfer payments, and when you subsidize a thing, you necessarily get more of it.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Infant Pheonomenon
1 day ago

And that ‘whole culture’ is not something that can be taught or replaced; it is a product of their genetics. Assimilation (of different races and religions) is a lie.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  3g4me
1 day ago

Not entirely: predominantly, perhaps, but not entirely.

From my perspective, I simply want to minimize exposure to profound, antisocial dysfunction.

(PS – assimilation CAN (maybe…) work in some instances, in proper measures, and with varying degrees of success, as i have born witness, but never, never, in a feminized culture, as there is inevitably a need for “the impetus of the blackjack”. And mommy don’t like that.)

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  rasqball
1 day ago

There are exceptions to everything, of course, but they do not disprove the generalization. Plus no one wants to pin down what ‘assimilation’ actually means. Selena Gomez’s (crying about the deportation of “my people”) father is the anchor baby of Mexican mestizos. Is she “assimilated?” Usha Vance was born to ‘legal’ Indian immigrants, so her half-White children are second generation on her side. But who watched them while she worked? Vance’s mother was in rehab, so I am assuming they’ve had a heavy Indian cultural influence via their maternal grandparents, who raised their mother as a ‘devout Hindu.” Will they… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  rasqball
1 day ago

You are simply refusing to accept reality. Could it be less dysfunctional? Possibly. But the reality is, the environment is not a separate thing that can be isolated and changed. To the extent we can make improvements to the environment, nobody would be allowed to do it. We are doing the exact opposite of improving the environment. Black kids cannot be disciplined in schools, for example. Any attempt at discipline is framed as White supremacy! What they should have is a zero tolerance policy. You disturb the class, you’re expelled. You fight or sell drugs in or around school, you… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
22 hours ago

Ding Ding Ding! Winner here! You cannot force a retarded savage to function in a western, White and civilized society. They not only can’t live the way we want them to live, but they don’t WANT to live that way. They do not belong anywhere near White people or their lands.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  Jannie
1 day ago

Yes, IFF such a thing were possible, but it is not.

Johnny Ducati
Johnny Ducati
Member
1 day ago

I would love to see manufacturing return. We lost our best tool shops to outsourcing. The company I worked for even set up Chinese shops with the latest machine tools. I thought the corporate officers should have been strung up for their treachery.

Marko
Marko
1 day ago

From what I’ve seen in the past week or so, it appears there are a whole lot of people now who are open to Trump’s reforms. We haven’t seen the caterwauling like we did in 2016 or 2020. There are still a lot of kooks and managerial goons out there for sure, like there are still people who watch Survivor, but they do not appear to be overwhelming like they did a few short years ago. We are witnessing both a vibe shift and a preference cascade, so the managerial goons will fall in line. If Trump doesn’t step on… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Marko
1 day ago

One result of the stolen election was that the left went from “very lazy” in making their case, to not even bothering. That and eight plus years of everyone watching these scolds burn down cities and castrate kids has completely destroyed what little moral claims they had to push their agenda.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 day ago

This. Also, the safety net of a controlled, uniform media has ended and they have lost the ability to make actual arguments.

Piffle
Piffle
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 day ago

The sheer speed and volume of the EOs has left them without a front to focus on.

ray
ray
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

Donald was prepared this time. Last time, no.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 day ago

Joe Biden turned out to be the perfect personification of late stage liberalism: corrupt and intellectually exhausted. With the passing of the gerontocracy, it is incompetent hysterics all the way down.

The real problem in short to medium term will be the cryptos and conversos on our own side, determined to wreck the transformation, as they did with Reagan, Gingrich and the Tea Party.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Marko
1 day ago

“a whole lot of people now who are open to Trump’s reforms”
“We are witnessing both a vibe shift and a preference cascade”

Asking everyone, do you personally know anyone who is more open to Trump and what he represents now than they were in 2016? I don’t.

Who are these masses of people who are suddenly open to Trump? Hispanic men? Californians who lost their homes to fire?

I hear about this supposed preference cascade but I can’t find any evidence of it with actual people. Maybe I’ve overlooked the overwhelming evidence.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

It’s more the disgust with the left than the love for Trump.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 day ago

Yes.
Plus, it’s very difficult for folkz to “come clean”, as this would be an acknowledgement of having been wrong, and…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

It’s not just a conversion of people from anti to pro Trump, but also the degree of change in lukewarm supporters. I know a lot of normies that were receptive to the Trump message, but could not support the messenger because of his crudeness. Now they are all in, openly laughing at the left, and joyfully anticipating what Trump will do next. Just one example is the media criticizing the J6 pardons for people who “assaulted the police.” Normies used to fall for this nonsense, but now they see right through it.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Among the hoi-polloi, I don’t see much difference. If you’re at a certain age or still consume mainstream media, you have the same opinions of Trump that you did in 2016. I was referring to the non-sack-of-potatoes people, the growing number of influencers who are at least agnostic towards Trump this time around. Some are even apologetic like Zuck and Chris Cilizza. I think that the madness we’ve experienced was one of those things that happens from time to time, when a moral crusade looks unstoppable, and either scares people or ignites the bully in other people, and good men… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Marko
1 day ago

What exactly is the FL doing that is a bad sign?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Well, anecdotes are not data. I tend to agree, except for the fact that Trump did get a goodly share of the vote—and better than 2016. Now these people might just be disgruntled with the last 4 years and Trump was the only alternative in our two party system. That I give you. The fear I have is that an effective Trump tenure will entail pain and the electorate is fickle. Who runs for reelection on the promise of more pain? Worse, is there enough juice in the squeeze for another Potemkin “Morning in America” 2028 campaign? Effective, lasting change—if… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

LITS, I’ll give an English perspective, for what it’s worth. Put simply, during Trump’s 2016-2020 tenure, a knew of a large number of people who loathed him. Every mention of his name would have them throw up their hands in anger: “What has the world come to!”, “Who put this idiot in charge!”… Fast-forward to the current time, those same people are discussing the EOs in quite a modest tone. People who used to just say “Drumpf” or “Trump” now address him as President Trump; in addition, a lot of the heated rhetoric has gone. Furthermore, and perhaps even more… Read more »

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 day ago

I suspect that a lot of the silence or “tolerance” arises from fear of prosecution and imprisonment. And when the opinion leaders and the trend setters are cowed into relative silence, those who take their cues from the opinion leaders are too unsure of themselves to say much. Also, the shenanigans involved in the “nomination” of Kamala–“Yeah, we forced you all to vote for Biden in the primaries, and now we have taken him out of the running and, yeah, we really don’t need or even want your votes”–no doubt cost the Dems a lot of votes and soured the… Read more »

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Agreed. One has only to look at the number of votes that Kamala got.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Line: You’re seeing a lot of wishful thinking and generalized assertions in this comment section of late. Take it all with a heaping spoonful of salt.

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

I’m out here in a suburb of the Soviet of Seattle and wish I could say the neighbors I know are more open-minded than they were in 2016. There are some signs of life in some of the local press (e.g., mynorthwest.com) and bloggers/tweeters like Katie Daviscourt. But it still feels very much being like being behind enemy lines, where we have to watch what we say if we don’t want to provoke a swarm of leftist scolds. I’m not afraid of that myself, but the arguments with them are never productive and always so very tiresome. I wish I… Read more »

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Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  LineInTheSand
22 hours ago

The only group that voted for Trump was White men. Once they’re phased out you won’t see this again.

Strong men make
Strong men make
Reply to  Marko
1 day ago

“just wait til your father gets home”…

ray
ray
Reply to  Strong men make
1 day ago

Oh yeah.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Strong men make
1 day ago

I just shuddered involuntarily.

Compsci
Compsci
1 day ago

What goes around, comes around I guess. This problem of “middlemen” has been talked about since the Nixon era. Remember Earl Butz?… ”Earl Butz, a prominent and influential U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, was known for advocating agricultural efficiency and large-scale farming practices. During his tenure in the 1970s, he often used visual demonstrations, including a loaf of bread, to illustrate the distribution of costs in agricultural production. On talk shows and public appearances, Butz famously held up a loaf of bread to highlight how little of its retail cost actually went to farmers. He pointed out that only a few… Read more »

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Earl Butz!! “Loose shoes, tight p***y and a warm place to sh*t.”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sn-A7D76o

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RDittmar
1 day ago

Well, that too. But Butz was a great spokesperson for the farmer of the time. Perhaps the last.

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  Compsci
19 hours ago

Wendell Berry would disagree. Great spokesman for agribusiness maybe, but not the farmer.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  RDittmar
1 day ago

I believe one of his mantras was “get big or get out!”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dutchboy
1 day ago

A phrase also known to pass the lips of a horny dame…

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

The French government encourages “Farm-to-Table” buying, where consumers cut out the middleman and purchase directly from farmers.

It’s still possible here in the USA: for instance, drive through the Southern California countryside and you can buy big bags of oranges, grapefruits, avocados, etc. for just a few bucks (then go check out their prices in the urban supermarkets!).

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jannie
1 day ago

Yeah, but today the American housewife is too damn lazy or too damn busy with her out of the home job. When I lived over in Europe, the housewife went to market every day for fresh food for lunch and dinner. My aunt had one of those new fangled refrigerators which was about 2-3 cubic feet and held a bottle of Coke in it. Nothing was stored and frozen. Fresh food daily was purchased, prepared, and eaten—that day. There might be a bag of biscuits for tea in the pantry. Aside from not preparing food each day for a meal,… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

I miss the Butzer.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 day ago

“The only way to remedy this is to bring the costs back to the front of that frozen pizza and that can only be done through systemic change.” That’s a good way of describing Trump’s tariff policy. I’ve been reading Rasmus off and on for the last fifteen years or so (off for the last few years). I see he has a slew of new books out. But returning to the tariff policy. I think it can only work with consistent and determined effort, and over a time span of decades About 35 years back or so, an HBS professor… Read more »

Piffle
Piffle
Reply to  thezman
1 day ago

The endless negativity on the prospects of the US gets a little old. We’ve lacked the will protect our borders in every angle imaginable. That’s not the same as having all the resources themselves disappear.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

True, we have a tendency to talk a lot of Black pills, but can you blame us? Most of the conversation as I interpret it is valid consideration of the obstacles to a prolonged program of needed reform based upon past history, most of which is pretty spot on.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

That used to be a quintessentially American attitude, right?

Still is, I’m sure, but we have this demographic problem in the meantime. Seriously, we Americans have let ourselves be smothered, and I’m convinced that’s the most of it.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Piffle
1 day ago

Africa is at least as resource rich as the US in many areas and vastly more so in others, yet much of those resources remain untouched and will remain untouched in perpetuity unless outsiders harness them. This is because Africans lack –thee– ‘resource’ required to get the other resources– Intelligence. And all that goes along with it, high trust society, social capital, technology, etc. Now that America more closely resembles Brazil with it’s vast swirl of muddy adulterated genetic misfits which is rapidly heading to completely brown who, pray tell, will be doing all this resource mining? Guillermo? Juanita? Tyrone?… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Apex Predator
22 hours ago

Russia was able to turn the corner quickly because Russia is full of Russians. The US is full of… mutts.”

Nail on head. “America”, or whatever we call this dump now was able to make comebacks in the past because it was still a White country. Not only is it not a White country any longer, it isn’t a real country at all. It is the world’s flea market and strip mall.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Tired Citizen
13 hours ago

It is the world’s flea market and strip mall.”

Strip joint, you mean.

WillS
WillS
Reply to  thezman
1 day ago

The ability to be a truly independent country is one of our great strengths. If we closed the borders and focused on fixing our house we could do it in a generation with good leadership and the right ideology. We have a very abundant country. Only a wealthy country can fail at the magnitude we are seeing.

We have allowed bad leadership to run the ship aground. The 1793 solution makes more sense the more time goes by and the more information that comes out.

Excellent article Z.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  WillS
1 day ago

The root problem is the superstition of “equality” and that problem’s attendant problem, which is universal suffrage.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  WillS
1 day ago

We also have the ability to be a country at peace (with no powerful countries on our borders) but our rulers will not have it.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  WillS
1 day ago

The 1793 solution? I checked around and there are a few items, could you possibly elaborate?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
13 hours ago

I’m certain he’s talking the French Revolution, but I sure hope that’s not in our future. That didn’t turn out very well for anyone. Heck, before long, France was full of French people.

That would be a terrible fate to befall America. Can you imagine? Berets, baguettes, harsh cigarettes, that obnoxious attitude. And we’d be so poor we wouldn’t have our own language. Just a stupid accent. (He’s right! We all talk like Maurice Chevalier! Au-hau-hau.)

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Steve
10 hours ago

The permanent removal of the elite through physical means.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  WillS
22 hours ago

At least half the country isn’t an American, and they don’t want to fix anything. Very difficult to do without any binding culture or commonality, no?

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Tired Citizen
10 hours ago

True, true. It is possible but very difficult.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

Those other countries also don’t have 7.5 million coin clippers that punch way above their weight in political influence.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  DLS
1 day ago

The Fuhrer once described Britain as a nation of shopkeepers. Something similar has happened to the USA.

ray
ray
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

‘grocery store clerks’ — Apocalypse Now

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

My favorite comment (slight) is that we specialize in the USA in “doing each other’s laundry”. 😉

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

I believe that was a different Führer: Napoleon.

ray
ray
Reply to  DLS
1 day ago

Plus 10% for the Big Guy. Wait, he’s not president anymore?

LOL Pay up, jack.

Pequeña
Pequeña
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

I think the British had fewer street poopers and destroyed cities.
Less diversity and child mutilation also.
I wonder what the IQ of Britain in 1960 was compared to the US today? Or crime rates:US murder rate is over 4x that of Britain or even France.

For better and for worse the path the US is on is unique.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Pequeña
1 day ago

Britain and to a greater extent continental Europe are in far better shape than the United States on the metrics that matter over the long run: demographics, life expectancy, and so forth. The GDP Bros make shallow and hollow arguments.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 day ago

I don’t think so. Somehow, we’ve managed to keep the influx of head choppers to a dull roar. Our diversity is downright docile in comparison. And their legal system is much more dysfunctional, locking people up for sharing social media posts saying rape is a bad thing.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
1 day ago

“The bigger problem is the transition cost, which will come in the form of recession. There is no escape from it.” People keep saying this, but I just don’t believe it is true. I think the past 5 years were the recession, just that the government/media/economists have lied about it, and pushed fraudulent statistics to try to gaslight people. Ignore the government pronouncements and look at what has happened with the real economy since the covid psy-op was launched: The prices of food, energy, housing and healthcare continue to sky-rocket — way faster than any increase in wagesCrime has sky-rocketedALL… Read more »

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Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. Generic
1 day ago

It kind of becomes a question of whether they can levitate their stock market in perpetuity, through any kind of economic conditions. They are certainly better at that than they used to be.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

If Trump carries out his tariff threats, the stock market will spank him. Hard.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Infant Pheonomenon
1 day ago

When you got ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

I’m anticipating financial war between different nation’s AIs.

China’s Deepsix AI versus Fink’s Aladdin, for instance, would be a battlefield innovation with as much impact as drones and ‘hypersonic’ rocketry.

High-frequency trade wars and AI commercial lawfare might hand our ruling class a set of problems that would slap that smirk right off their face.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

They can. It’s taken decades to get over this fascination with Keynes, and have been dragged kicking and screaming into accepting more classical economics, especially the Cantillon Effect. I think the original design of the Fed was based on Cantillon’s insights, but being greedy bastards, wanted all the things NOW. The current managers are much more patient.

The wildcard is Congress. When they pull more moronic stunts like COVID Cash, that can’t but push consumer inflation.

Lakelander
Lakelander
Reply to  Mr. Generic
1 day ago

The most discouraging aspect of the recessionary period since Trump left office in 2021 is that the US still managed to add nearly $10 trillion in national debt with ever-increasing borrowing rates. The US is a can kickers paradise…until it isn’t.

tashtego
Member
1 day ago

I like all the attention being given to that obscenely wealthy Spanish girl for crying on video about her people. Putting aside that she’s obviously 100% European, everyone understands what she means by her people and it helps normalize whites using the same language about our people.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  tashtego
1 day ago

She is a good example of genetically deficient spiteful mutants as well as feminine emotional absurdity.

tashtego
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

I think she has good female genetics, she has just spent her whole life living in a social world where pretending to care a great deal about ‘the other’ is rewarded and not doing so is punished. The contrast in attitude with Spaniards that actually live among and rule over that population is amusing. This girl’s very existence demonstrates half a millennia of hard core dedication to racial awareness.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  tashtego
1 day ago

She’s not Spanish. I’ve read that her mother is of Italian heritage born in Texas, and her father is the anchor baby of illegal Mexican mestizos.

Tashtego
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 day ago

I guess nothing in this fallen world is perfect. As the enemy likes to point out, don’t let facts get in the way, the important thing is that it could be true.

TomC
TomC
1 day ago

And what if these middlemen started an agricultural futures market, which date back to Sumer? Now I can make a living just trading futures. And maybe an ethnic group will specialize in this. Just a thought experiment.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 day ago

Sharp. Two contradictory things are true: Massive economic reform, which in effect is a return to normality, is necessary to restore a decent quality of life; and It currently is politically and culturally impossible without possible violence to make any economic changes that threaten the managerial class. In other words, we are in the USSR circa 1989. We focus on the relative lack of bloodshed that accompanied the Soviet Union’s end, but that it ended at all let alone non-violently is the most amazing part. The elite faction then that overcame the managerial class was in fact a rogue portion… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 day ago

Certainly, there has been a move to increase population through immigration, but is the reason monolithic or varies among interest groups? In short, can these groups be split and objections overcome? For example, Dem’s want a voting population for political control. What if these folk no longer have the franchise? What if factory IA workers no longer can work due to tightened enforcement?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Ending the demand is the right approach. Since I subscribe to elite theory more or less, that’s the group that matters. How to end its demand for a constant flow of people? I do think the violence and upheaval associated with open borders frightened some factions. But as we saw with the H1B debacle, elites still want immigration of some kind. How to end that demand? They flagrantly violate and ignore laws at this point, so this has to be an approach of making bad people do good things. I think the United States is far past the tipping point,… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 day ago

Even H1b VISA’s can be reworked. What is the reason for these workers to be offered citizenship for example? Why do we not enforce more tightly the concept of not allowing such people to *replace* current US employees. Seems we used to have a program for migratory farm workers to come up from MX, then go home. Same should be done with H1b’s. They can go home and apply for legal immigration under their countries’ quota allocation.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

The H1B’s have been reworked quite a bit to our detriment. The “Left” got onboard when it realized Green Cards would be issued eventually to their holders. If the Tech Bros were thoughtful they would be floating a revision now to that effect, but they don’t care about the racial and cultural problems. Immigration always is bad.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

“What is the reason for these workers to be offered citizenship for example?” There’s a process from going from H1B to Green Card. This is because the H1B operates on the “principle of dual intent” (unlike the work program for Mexican agricultural workers). The H1B to Green Card is not straightforward and involves obstacles and delays. At the current time, it supposedly takes decades (I’m not joking) for an Indian H1B to get a Green Card. Other nationalities (e.g., West European) are probably much faster. American workers get shafted by H1B migrant workers but the H1B migrant workers get shafted… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 day ago

“. . . but the H1B migrant workers get shafted . . .”
And White heritage Americans should care about this . . . why?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  3g4me
1 day ago

Because this underpaid and over-exploited workforce depresses US wages and working conditions. Can you see this? The best thing would be to not have the H1B in place at all.

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Right. When I was a kid, we let temporary workers in when it suited the interests of our working men and farms. Not the interests of liberal women looking to virtue signal and the endless ‘minorities’ of the civil rights regime.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  ray
1 day ago

Actually it’s probably the big corporates that lobbied for this and got the H1B on the statute book back in 1990, when Bush, Sr. was president, The liberal women are just the lipstick on the pig, the camouflage, of the big corporates.

Tars Tarkas
Member
1 day ago

Tariffs will not be enough and especially not targeted tariffs. A lot of production is leaving China, but it’s not coming home to the US. Most of it is going to other Asian countries. Mexico is another country production is move to. The mountains of regulations that have built up in the US since the 60s, not to mention the army of lawyers, makes us extremely uncompetitive. The hollowing out of manufacturing over a long period of time has resulted in a workforce lacking the skills necessary for manufacturing.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

The coming Greater North American Co Prosperity Sphere means that the production moving to Mexico actually is returning “home.”

ray
ray
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Or just absorb Mexico under a type of Protectorate. One then could re-assign Presidente Sheinbaum (lol) to a more appropriate employment. The stables? That’d be fine.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

Absolutely right. Mexico is an attractive nearshoring destination now (even Chinese factories are moving there) due to its location near major markets, low costs, and lack of workers’ rights.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jannie
1 day ago

Toyota has shifted a lot of production to Mexico. Their engines suck and sales are tanking. I went out of my way to buy a Toyota made in Japan. I don’t give a f**k about Mexico’s “lack of workers’ rights.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 day ago

The troubles with Toyota’s quality assurance is troubling. I need to hear more about it to understand what happened. Toyota was able to open up a factory in Tennessee moving from Japan. My first truck came from there. It was rock solid—even when built by Americans and Detroit cars were suffering in quality.

I’m still not convinced you can’t build a good car in MX.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

4 door Tacomas have been produced i MX iirc for a long time. 2 door at least used to be produced in TX (mine was anyhow). Maybe a good case study.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 day ago

There’s plenty of info/comparisons on YT. You can still buy Tacomas made in Japan/Canada, and YT gives the VINS that tell you this.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

Peter Thiel openly stated this. As usual, there was no emotion, no empathy, no concern. Just a fact that he will exploit while we are left to our own devices. As for the workforce training, the old mentality couple with an ability to enact real reform is the biggest obstacle. We have more than enough people: immigration attorneys; bullshit tech jobs; bullshit “journalist” jobs; bullshit government jobs; bullshit “H1B” visas; foreign domiciled tech jobs at American companies; bullshit NGO jobs (government jobs by another name); people paid not to work; people paid to barely work … …; bullshit university jobs;… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  RealityRules
1 day ago

I agree wholeheartedly. I wasn’t advocating for the status quo and using it as an excuse. I’m just saying tariffs alone are not enough, even if they were just generic import tariffs and not specific to this country or that country.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 day ago

Understood Tars. Just underscoring your point.

usNthem
usNthem
1 day ago

“The biggest challenge in this project is a dysfunctional managerial class that sees any change as a challenge to their position.” That and the fact millions of low quality swarthy invaders have taken up squatting residence in this rapidly devolving country. It’s going to be long hard slog to say the least.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
1 day ago

Look, the return on the pension funds of the managerial class are what’s driving the need for inflation; that those and the public fund pools are controlled by the politicians is what’s driving the bust-out. The crooks are getting money to run, the managerials are getting money to put up a walled estate; if white people start training their own children again in the technological arts we invented, we could offer them a places to run to, perhaps, and get them on our side. Very tenuous, a fragile soap bubble against a tidal wave, but what are ya gonna invest… Read more »

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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 day ago

The war machine for the neocons and the zionists must be made healthy again.
The flip to anti woke is more about a certain tribe worried that the great power they have their tentacles into is economicaly weakening internally which endangers their war projects.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 day ago
Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

To keep them at peace with Israel. The aid package is to help make sure they don’t get any more 1973-type ideas.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Because by law and the stupid peace treaty we engineered, they each get an enormous aid package. Look at Egypt’s population increase in the last 20 years – you helped pay for that. Look at all the meddling and strife Israel has caused in the last 20 years – you paid for that too.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 day ago

Because of Trump’s ethnic cleansing proposal to drive the Gazans to Egypt. Gotta grease the skids.
MIGA!!

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
1 day ago

The collapse of manufacturing in the USA coincided with the environmental movement, and the creation of the EPA under Nixon. For example it quickly became far more expensive to make steel in the USA, making many products uncompetitive. Until we eliminate these governmental restrictions on manufacturing, we’re not likely to see much manufacturing here in the USA.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
1 day ago

It’s a matter of cost, is it not? The great arbitrage of off shoring is both in wages and environmental/safety cost. Can’t see why a profitable enterprise can’t start here if tariffs are employed appropriately to account for such arbitrage.

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

True enough.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

No. Stop focusing on the money. They can create more money with a few keystrokes. Focus on the wealth, and consequent purchasing power. That’s not nearly as easy to create. Take cars. Say you need a 50% tariff to account for the arbitrage. Cet. par., cars will necessarily be 50% higher, plus vig. Except they can’t because there are not all that many who can swing that kind of payment. So things will settle at a new price somewhere between the two, but most critically, with tens, hundreds of thousands of people priced out of the market entirely. Most of… Read more »

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
23 hours ago

This is a lot easier to see if you pick a product that cannot be imported. Houses, for instance. This is effectively a massive tariff. 1000%, maybe.

But even with that, housing starts have not kept up. Shoot, our best ever was around 2.5 million in Nixon’s administration, with around 200 million people. Now with half again the number of people, and a plethora of illegals, we are around 1.5 million, and more expensive, even if you factor in inflation and hedonics.

If protectionism were the answer, why isn’t it the answer for houses?

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
1 day ago

Back in 2002, hundreds of Chinese workers arrived in the German town of Dortmund to dismantle a huge disused steel works. They transported it piece by piece to Shanghai and has been running ever since.

This Youtube is in German, but you can change the subtitles to English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq2BTKI7K_o&ab_channel=wocomoDOCS

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 day ago

That is so sad – and so typical of the short-sightedness of the corporate industrialists/globalists. From AI to steel to classic Italian luxury brands, it’s all made by Chinese (in China and Italy and everywhere else).

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
1 day ago

Excellent points about the transition of our economy from producers to FIRE skimmers, which is why our so-called GDP is more than 70% services, most of them unnecessary in a sane world…Another way of looking at it is Michael Hudson’s view that we have transitioned from an economy where the government provided the necessary infrastructure for development, including sound education through HS, while the producers produced…to a managerial government that ignores infrastructure and has made itself the main middleman in every deal through a vast cloud of regulations..

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Recession being necessary for change presents some different problems than it did in the 1930s, thanks to demographic changes. Not only are we not the same country that we were back then, we won’t be the same country at the end of the recession that we will be at the beginning of it (because I am convinced this next one will be long and deep). Which begs the question of how capable a workforce made up of 3rd world muds will be at digging out of a recession, and how far out of it they can dig. Whatever the percentage… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

The discussion here is precisely centered upon the elimination of “grunt work”—as well as any number of managerial type functions.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

China has a robot factory that claims to build an electric vehicle every 31 seconds. It seems they skipped right past the need to import immigrants, despite having a billion workers already at hand.

That raises a seperate question. Why would China need to outsource to Vietnam and the like? Aren’t they a controlled economy, a national socialismus state for the Chinese people?

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Proof in the pudding: my Nebraska friend was the factory mechanic for meat processors.
Of course, management brought in Somalis to do the grunt work, freezing out the locals.

Two years later, my friend’s job was helping to dismantle and shut down those plants. They are ‘relocating’.

Now that an enormous lithium bed has been found on the Idaho border, perhaps our imported Africans can be useful there, a mini Congo of our own.

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ray
ray
1 day ago

Makes good sense. And I got a ‘Cognitively Disabled’ grade in Econ. 101. One thing Trumpster did right first time ’round was the econ and financial stuff. Which also makes sense, that’s his milieu. To reintroduce industry and production and to win the production-cost battles against foreign competitors, you’ll need tough, experienced men. . . the very men that New Amerika made war on the past 50 years. Your empowered females cannot do this. They will drag you down to the bottom of the national lake. It’ll take more than economic legerdemain to fix the U.S. You will need deep… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ray
1 day ago

The way to assure dad’s is to support marriage. Uncle Sam has become every woman’s simp husband of last resort. This needs to be remedied, but as it falls mainly to the States, perhaps out of Trump’s control.

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

I do not support marriage for American men in a Feminist Nation — absent wholesale change to the judicial system, including appointments to judgeships. First target, . . . dismantling of the tremendously lucrative Divorce Industry. Dad the king of the castle, instead of Mom. Dad’s word goes, not Mom’s. Binding legally and socially, advocated-for in the churches. Or else I might leave my paradise and visit them. Abolition of the Violence Against Women Act and the legion of funding sources supporting it, including grants from elite sources (looking at you Rockefellers) and contributions from corporate Amerika. That’s just to… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ray
1 day ago

We have no disagreement. I just jump to the 30,000 foot view of the problem, marriage. That of course entails discussion which you’ve astutely outlined.

Clyde
Clyde
1 day ago

“Like the aristocracy in 18th century France, they will not go quietly.”  Thanks for the advice; I’m investing in tumbrels!

Lavrov
Lavrov
1 day ago

Trump is trying to do high-quality acrobatics on a narrow plank connecting the tops of two 70-floor Trump towers, when such acts are difficult even on the ground.

Good luck to him !!

Nick Note's Mugshot
Nick Note's Mugshot
1 day ago

The economy has continued to “evolve” past the traders to the tik tok influencers. I am personally struggling with the decision on whether to become a plumber or a life coach.

Ketchup-stained Griller
Ketchup-stained Griller
Reply to  Nick Note's Mugshot
1 day ago

Every empty storefront around becomes a “Personal Trainer.”

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
1 day ago

Herr Musk certainly isn’t helping the American worker with his soon to be released Tesla Optimus. https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/AI If there was ever a time for Luddite resurgence, it’s now. Just kidding! Industrial automation will never go away, no matter how much the Unions scream. Here in Germany Hans and Jorge over at the VW plant who have been manually assembling cars for the past 30-years are finished. And their kids can forget about working there too. It’s not enough Germany off-shored to Eastern Europe. German industrial automation companies were quite happy to sell their equipment to China. Now that China has… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 day ago

UBI, or paying people not to work, would not be a shock to the AINO economy or a large additional cost. It is already largely the reality. They’ve already dropped a lot of the facade of forcing people to show up at the office, where they were already getting paid for doing little to nothing that was productive.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Healthcare is the low hanging fruit for this and working for any level of government cough cough 😉

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Smart take. Yep, we do have UBI of sorts.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

True, but at least they had to report to work and spend some time in a regimented environment “pretending” to do productive efforts. What happens when one is simply “kept”. That is to say, freed from the basics of work for food, clothing, and shelter? Have we not seen this in our welfare ghettos? UBI for all? So far we’ve had no successful (to my limited knowledge) experiments. As to the cost, UBI heretofore was proposed as a *replacement* for all welfare payments, that is why the cost seemed reasonable at the time. This now seems impossible as folks tend… Read more »

Strong men make
Strong men make
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

UBI but only if they agree to voluntary sterilization so there will be no more generational welfare queens with 6 differently fathered chillun. This way the troublesome and expensive to maintain with no ROI will eventually disappear.

Bitter reactionary
Bitter reactionary
Reply to  Strong men make
1 day ago

This measure should have been implemented 70 years ago. The US would be a vastly better place.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bitter reactionary
1 day ago

Margaret Sanger tried to tell us. She was against abortion, but advocated ‘family planning’. Some states had sterilization programs; California, relatively recently, enforced Norplant for a few as a trial.

The small-hatted folks who industrialized the abortion industry needed body parts to sell, so here we are.

(Don’t even get me started on their global network of body parts from children and adults, or their adrenochrome vampires.)

I can see why the corporate boards want to turn us all into GMO-tagged patented inventory. That’s what remains after the FIRE economy is absorbed by AI.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

The ghetto is the ghetto because of who’s in it, not economics. White people “kept” via UBI would do white people things. The ones who have it in them to ghettoize already do. Our worst people by far—cops and soldiers—retire earliest, and even they rarely succumb to sloth/squalor/etc. My income for many years has come from still getting paid for one thing I did when I was young, rather like lottery winnings. Since then, I’ve done all the same things I was already doing, and my crime rate is zero (until Trump gets us for antisemitism). We are who we… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hemid
1 day ago

This seems true, but I note we have a projected demographic of less than 50% White by perhaps 2050. Further, there is no shortage of White trash who will sit on their ass and drug out on their UBI checks.

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Karl Horst
Karl Horst
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 day ago

Agreed. Many companies in Germany allowed people to continue to work home office after the pandemic and productivity didn’t change. I knew plenty of people in my company who weren’t doing anything except keeping a chair warm, so when they got to say home, they actually made more money simply by not commuting.

The Infant Pheonomenon
The Infant Pheonomenon
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 day ago

The electricity industry is telling us that by 2027–roughly 24 months from today–artificial intelligence will consume as much electricity as the Netherlands does today. And given that *only* the Southern Company (Georgia Power, Alabama Power, Mississippi Power) has built nuclear reactors in America over the past 50 years (all four of which are in Georgia), and given the fact that Germany–Germany!–for example, has shut down its nuclear facilities in favor of “renewables,”and given the *fact* that the EU is forging ahead–successfully so far–with the whole carbon superstition thing, one has to wonder where the electricity will come from to power… Read more »

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
Reply to  The Infant Pheonomenon
1 day ago

It seems under the new Trump administration, common sense and being in touch with reality are going to become fashionable again. He may even have an influence here as many UE political figures are openly stating that many of the policies that Trump is pushing for (5% NATO contributions) is absolutely correct. It was correct when he was in office before and it’s correct now that he’s back. Nothing like watching a bear eat your neighbor to make you realize you’re not as safe as you think! Same with energy policies which have devastated the German and European economy. America… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Karl Horst
1 day ago

Here is something that Trump *could* do. Force all military bases to equip themselves with Nuke power from mini-reactors! There is no State oversight on military bases. Those mini-nukes will create a market and provide support via their wide adoption and use.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
22 hours ago

Funny as heck if California Power & Light started having to buy electricity from Miramar and Vandenburg and Twenty-Nine Palms and such.

Thomas
Thomas
1 day ago

These folks nailed it 17 years ago:

https://youtu.be/pKv6RcXa2UI?si=WcJqvEQcBFIh2j8P

Piffle
Piffle
1 day ago

 The middleman economy was very good for the sorts of people who have a long list of impressive sounding credentials but view tangible accomplishment as a disqualifier. The army of managers in the managerial state cannot survive a transition out of a middleman economy. “

The good news is that when showing their credentials doesn’t stop events, they are pretty well out of ideas beyond there.

Lakelander
Lakelander
1 day ago

I think Trump has an overly simplistic view of how all this is going to work. Does he imagine throwing some tariffs on some countries will force industry to magically re-shore en masse? Even if it that did happen, do we have an adequate workforce of machinists, CNC operators and other jobs necessary for re-industrialization? Are we training enough Americans to acquire these skills? If not, are we just going to import more Eastern Europeans to do these jobs? Kind of defeats the whole purpose.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lakelander
1 day ago

East Europeans and South Africans wouldn’t be a bad idea at all.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lakelander
1 day ago

First things first. We can all envision scenarios of failure. First thing, businesses consider reshoring. Second thing, personnel. Not all businesses require machinists and CNC operators. In order to get those people, one must first have employment opportunities awaiting training in those specialties.

But you have a point. We may well have a problem with our glorified, elites who now populate our managerial class and are too good to do the manual, blue collar trades they are best suited for. Too bad.

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RealityRules
RealityRules
1 day ago

It is hard to understand what is coherent and what is incoherent at least as what applies to the oligarchy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSG0fBJBcQ8 Larry Ellison needs to keep growing Oracle’s bottom line. Can’t sell many more databases to the government? Negative interest rates at 0 are gone and the startups that fuel cloud services growth are gone or going away? What would you do? A $500 billion AI initiative. He’ll get growth, you’ll lose your job and you’ll get a surveillance state. Above all, we’ll become worse than China to beat China!!!! We’ve seen the labor part of this in Silicon Valley… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RealityRules
1 day ago

Since you asked, at age 80 with $188 billion, I could think of other things I’d rather do. But I hear Ellison intends to live forever.

Ed
Ed
1 day ago

I think a deep recession is inevitable because the spending cuts are going to have to be drastic. Stay out of debt and prepare accordingly.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 day ago

France required a bit more than a recession to make the needed changes.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
1 day ago

did you see catherine rampell chimp out on tv? She’s one of the few jewesses that are hot – but she went defcon

Ketchup-stained Griller
Ketchup-stained Griller
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
1 day ago

Ahhh, a 5 or 6 because she puts some effort into it.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
1 day ago

https://x.com/JeffClarkUS/status/1839854998735265870

Was COVID known about in advance? This eisen guy is either a mastermind or someone who thinks he’s Napoleon and belongs in a padded cell

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
1 day ago

Uh, Norm Eisen has been a known Leftist operator for a long time.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 day ago

that doesn’t really answer my question. Clark implies that Eisen knew that a virus was coming which makes you wonder

TomA
TomA
1 day ago

As usual, an excellent analysis in common sense language. Now go deeper. Nothing changes until the environment changes; so recession may actually become depression if the neocons get their WW3 via a false flag. War is the best way to hide financial disaster. And if the SHTF, they want peons killing peons, and not them (hence the illegals among us). The fastest (and least harmful) bounce off the bottom is via housecleaning. This reality is an unfortunate but necessary bitch.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 day ago

This is a positive step.

He is going after the rival castle’s source of funding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDnLg5bcU0c

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RealityRules
1 day ago

Way too long for viewing.

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Dutchboy
Dutchboy
1 day ago

Middle Man is a nice euphemism for exploiter.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Dutchboy
22 hours ago

Meh. All the farmers had to do is say, “No thanks.”

CorkyAgain
CorkyAgain
Reply to  Steve
20 hours ago

Yeah, but you know how those flim-flam men are fast talkers. Easy to see how a simple farmer wouldn’t understand what he was signing up for, especially when he was worried about having to leave the farm unattended and chores undone while he took his crop to the market. Probably sounded to him like hiring a farm hand at an affordable wage…

And you know, simple folk tend to be trusting folk.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  CorkyAgain
12 hours ago

But they are not stupid folk. I grew up around them. They can tell when they are worse off. When the harvest doesn’t quite carry you through to the next harvest. That’s kind of hard to miss.

Hokkoda
Member
14 hours ago

The other thing Trump wants to do is repeal the income tax and move to a consumption (sales) tax. This places great tax burden on bigger spenders, and it encourages thrift and shopping discipline. Sales taxes would likely vary to ensure it’s not a regressive system. Prepared foods = higher taxes. Fresh and other shorter shelf life items = lower taxes. Luxury goods higher. Necessities lower. Oh and the abolition of income taxes eliminates (or greatly reduces) one of America’s most shameful skimming operations: tax prep and tax law services. A lot of the trouble in Washington orbits around trying… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Hokkoda
12 hours ago

When has something like that ever happened? They actually followed through with some tax substitution scheme and not reinstituted it a few sessions later?

Heck, to the best of my knowledge, we still have the telecom tax “paying” for the Spanish American War over 6-score years in the rear-view mirror.

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karl von hungus
karl von hungus
17 hours ago

surprised there isn’t much talk about the strategic predicate of having key industries “on shore”. economics is one thing, but national security is
*the* thing.

Yagama
Yagama
1 day ago

your desire for cheap labour and cheap goods cause the ongoing national crisis

There’s reason historically every nation have protected borders and regulation on trade for a reason
when one country depends on resources and goods to another country, that country has literally become hostage to others

Son
Son
1 day ago

These naive articles on global economics are so painful. Stop and think, man: the world pays us tribute. Every day, they send us untold riches in exchange for next to nothing. You at once decried offshoring while making Walmart a household name. LMAO AF. Gimme a break.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Son
1 day ago

Well, you can laugh your ass off all you want. Doesn’t mean you have a clue—and you don’t.

Son
Son
Reply to  Compsci
1 day ago

Very substative response. What am I missing?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Son
1 day ago

One absurd comment deserves another. You got a reply that fits your comment’s thoughtfulness quite well. Try again, you might do better—but I doubt.

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Son
Son
Reply to  Compsci
15 hours ago

Naw. You’re all a joke. I’m good. There’s no reason to read this goyslop here anymore. Probably never was.

Lakelander
Lakelander
Reply to  Son
1 day ago

Every day, they also send us untold amounts of foreigners in exchange for EVERYTHING.

You’re just another ankle biting faggot arguing with your own delusions.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Son
1 day ago

They’re selling us the riches?
Where’s my check?

No, it’s a bust-out, our managers are selling off centuries of accumulated social capital for dirt cheap out the back door.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Son
23 hours ago

Yes, they give us goods for green pieces of paper, or, now, 1s and 0s. Today is sweet.

But what happens tomorrow? The reason they make such a foolish trade is that they believe the US government will end up making good on it by taking it out of us, in blood if necessary. And I’m not prepared to say they are wrong in their assessment…

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