A Culture of Lies

“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
― Theodore Dalrymple

I’ve often wondered if it were possible to devise a metric for the measure of madness in a society’s ruling class. We know that the people ruling Canada, for example, are much further from reality than the people running Poland right now. You can tell that by the things they say. Justin Trudeau says things that suggest he is a schizophrenic, while the ruler of Poland says sensible things about the troubles facing Europe. The former ruler of North Korea often made announcements so outlandishly crazy, it’s hard to believe they were intentional.

If you could create a scale measuring the distance between the things the rulers say in public and reality, you could then compare one regime to another on the crazy scale. North Korea would probably be the gold standard of crazy so the “nork” could be the measure of ruling class lunacy. Turkmenistan would be seven “norks”, while France would be three “norks.” It’s an impossible thing and maybe a bit batty, but if I ever have the time, maybe I’ll try to work it out just for fun.

There’s little doubt, however, that the Dalrymple quote relies on the observation that authoritarian regimes rely heavily on spouting nonsense at their citizens and having the citizenry repeat it. Every society has “pretty lies” that help grease the wheels, but authoritarian societies almost always jump into that other category, where clearly false things are declared official truths. It’s not a matter of degree. It is a category difference.

I was thinking about this yesterday listening to the coverage of the Orlando shooting. The facts are familiar at this point. A second generation Muslim goes bonkers and kills people in the name of Jihad. In this case, the killer had a deep hatred of homosexuals and blacks so he shot up what is usually a gay club, but on this night it was Latin night so it just looked like a gay club. This is now becoming a familiar pattern and we all know the general reason for it. The contours of Islam are now familiar to everyone.

That’s the reality of this event. Barak Obama, on the other hand, blames it on Magic Shape Theory™. He claim this man was exposed to metal and plastic formed into mystical shapes that imbued them with the power to take over the mind of this one guy, turning him into a murderer. Therefore he is calling on his chief sorcerer to cast a level three wishing spell to prevent this particular shape from forming again. That way, no one will ever be possessed by this shape and turned into a killer.

OK, he did not mention a sorcerer, but calls for gun control are about as honest and fact based as calling for the Court Wizard of the kingdom to cast a healing spell. It’s utter nonsense. Obama knows it is nonsense and everyone in the media repeating it knows it is nonsense. The proof of that is they refuse to even talk about the obvious issue in this case. When that’s mentioned, Obama declares it immoral to even discuss it and the press is directed to spend their time talking about how Trump is firing up Christian bigots.

Lying used to be something that damaged reputations, even with politicians, but we have reached a point where lying in public is so common, it is considered part of the normal. Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is lying about the pay-for-play scam she was running from the State Department. We have video proof of her lying repeatedly, but no one in the press bothers to press her on it. After all, lying is just the new normal and only weirdos care about the truth when it comes to politics or anything else for that matter.

That’s part of what the ruling class finds so horrifying about Trump. He exaggerates for effect, but he does not say things that anyone can see as outright lies. You may disagree with his opinion on the Orlando shooter, but he’s not out there blaming it on Christian bakers or Magic Shape Theory™. It’s why they call him a bully. He’s not playing by the rules. We have reached the point that Orwell called the time of universal deceit. Trump is a radical merely for stating the obvious in public.

As a geezer, I’m old enough to remember a time when things were different. In my youth, homosexuals were still kept on lavender farms in the South and Muslims were kept over in their territories, so things like Orlando were impossible. I also remember when Trump’s plain speaking was not uncommon. Politicians exaggerated, for sure, but they were not competing with one another for who could tell the most outlandish whoppers in public. A folksy candor was a popular way for politicians to distinguish themselves from the crowd.

I’m going long here, but maybe this is a byproduct of mass media. The only way to break through the noise is to be outrageous and what is more outrageous than telling outlandish lies that everyone knows are lies? The foundation of Western civilization is social trust. The ultimate affront, the ultimate outrage is to be thoroughly and complete untrustworthy. To point out the obvious, to acknowledge the real means getting lost in the noise. Instead, the only way our rulers can get our attention is by embracing a culture lies.

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Notsothoreau
Notsothoreau
8 years ago

I supported Trump in part because he could break through against the media. I don’t see how any politician these days can be successful when the media decides not to cover them. They like to trot out McCain and Graham as “true Republicans” every chance they get. It’s entertaining to watch the press try to deal with someone that doesn’t respect them.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Notsothoreau
8 years ago

Isn’t that the truth. One of the key reasons I gave up watching FOX News was their insistence on using people like McCain and Graham as Republican spokes people for any and all issues needing input from a “conservative” position. Made me want to puke. I cancelled my subscription years ago. And then the last two elections we get McCain and Romney? What a clusterf**k!! But what is so depressing is that some 40% of the US population supports slimy worms like clinton even with all the baggage she and he carry. Nancee Pelosee, Harree Reed, Barnee Frank, and Chriss… Read more »

parascribe
parascribe
8 years ago

The only way to break through the noise is to be outrageous and what is more outrageous than telling outlandish lies that everyone knows are lies?

Apparently what’s outrageous is telling simple truths.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  parascribe
8 years ago

Like they say, the truth is a revolutionary idea in a time of universal deceit. That in it’s self is outrageous.
I vote the psychopath vagina in a pants suit is the benchmark of ZMan’s scale to gauge the level of psychotic potential of the rest of the oligarchy. After all, she is the next anointed figure head of their gangster government they have chosen to precede obamagotterung, and fully funded to the tune of billions.

guest
guest
8 years ago

Quote Ron Unz: “Actually, another suspicion I’ve often had is that much of that massively-promoted total nonsense like transexualism and Gay Marriage is meant to flush out and expose potential troublemakers potentially lurking within ranks of the elite before they can rise high enough to become a serious problem. In support of this hypothesis, the leading purge victims are usually found within the fields of popular culture, entertainment, celebrity, and the media, which constitute a crucial chokepoint in controlling our society. It’s obviously much easier and safer to detect and purge a future Mel Gibson while he’s just a rising… Read more »

Reply to  guest
8 years ago

Spandrell, whose cite to my amazement I only lately discovered, had some apposite points on this issue, including noting that it’s mainly Anglo-Saxons who find this idea revelatory. That’s a great strength and weakness of our culture. I find myself in the middle ground on the substance insofar as I can’t not think of transexualism as mental illness. Unlike homosexuality, to date a demonstrated ineradicable feature of nature in the human and some other species, and therefore at least not “unnatural” in any non-religious sense, transexualism actually requires belief in something contrary to scientific evidence. It’s essentially magical thinking itself… Read more »

Reply to  random_observer_2011
8 years ago

Sorry- “cite” = “site”.

Fuel Filter
Fuel Filter
Reply to  guest
8 years ago

It’s called “gaslighting”. Leftists and women (especially ex-wives and feminists) are experts at it.

Go to Wikipedia. They have a whole page on it (or just goggle it).

Severian
8 years ago

Ever had a girlfriend cheat on you, or have a good friend whose girl cheated on him? Not to get personal, but like (I’m assuming) everyone here, I’m sure liberals must be lying about Magic Shape Theory and everything else… But then I remember that liberals are creatures of pure emotion. They live in their amygdalae. Yeah, the guy whose girl is obviously stepping out on him knows it on some level, but watching what he “knows” catch up to what he knows is excruciating. If you assume that liberals live in that zone all the time – that every… Read more »

Anon
Anon
Reply to  Severian
8 years ago

An odd analogy but I agree with you 🙂
Not only that, but they’ve become emotionally invested in the lie. And what’s more, they’ve nailed their colors to the mast. Once you’ve said something in public with all the world watching, backtracking is hardly an option.

Anon
Anon
8 years ago

The story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” is proof that this phenomena isn’t entirely new. Once you have an ethos, there will be some who will demonstrate their virtue by saying blatantly illogical things in the name of that ethos or by acting irrationally in the name of the ethos. And when someone in a position of power (an emperor, official or unofficial), what’s to stop them from going crazy and what’s to stop others from adopting this obvious insanity. As Steyn put it “who are you going to believe? Me or your lyin’ eyes?”. So we have the emperor… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

British comedian Eddie Izzard did a show called “Dressed to Kill” some years ago in which he brought up a similar subject of why there are degrees of murder; e.g.first degree murder, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter – yet no degrees of perjury. There’s the harmless lie such as you did your homework when in fact you didn’t vs.the serious lie that you didn’t murder someone when you actually did. As you work to develop and calibrate you “Nork” scale, I’m sure there will be others in here who will mention the internationally recognized “BS meter” which may serve as a good… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

Eddie Izzard?? Gag me!! I saw this freak on tv recently and almost tossed my cookies. I said “What the f**k is that?! What a freak. And the Brits call “it” a comedian?

Casius Lucius
Casius Lucius
Reply to  LetsPlay
8 years ago

Sounds like he caused you to feel things you find…upsetting.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Casius Lucius
8 years ago

Hey, I’m just being honest. I found was I was looking at … revolting. I knew nothing of the guy or his schtick but I wanted nothing to do with it. There are enough of these “clowns” running around on the street and I don’t need to see them on tv. So just because I find him offensive, I’m the one with the problem? Maybe those who accept him and his ‘act’ should consider what they are letting into their minds.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  LetsPlay
8 years ago

@ Infidel – I was once frightened by funny men who wore make-up, inappropriate shoes and clothes that made them look un-manly. I remember running to my mother out of sheer terror at the sight of them. But when I got older, my fear of circus clowns went away.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

That is no circus clown, believe me.

UKer
UKer
Reply to  LetsPlay
8 years ago

Izzard has been funny at times (his sketch where he recounts the story of the brother of Darth Vader who worked in the canteen on the Death Star is probably Izzard at his funniest) but like all trendy media types he gets a bit full of his own sense of self-importance. The media then asks these comedians their opinions on things other than trying to tell jokes, and proceeds to treat their views on politics as serious. As for the man wearing high heels, so what? If he wants to risk turning his ankle tottering round in them in the… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  UKer
8 years ago

Fully agree – You know society is in trouble when the media consults actors and comedians on science, politics, history and culture. It’s bad enough one can’t find a decent science or history program on TV while there is an endless supply of cooking shows and sports commentators.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
8 years ago

Part of me wonders if the reflexive chanting about the “conservative culture of hate” against LGBT folks empowered this guy to go shoot 100 people in a nightclub says more about the default thinking of Progressives than anything else. I just watched a couple local Facebook flame wars that went immediately to “leave our town”, “your post should be deleted” and worse–just because a guy had the temerity to suggest Obama has really screwed the pooch on this one. These poor things actually believe we have the same totalitarian default setting that they have. And when you explain “no, I… Read more »

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
Reply to  Saml Adams
8 years ago

One of the wonders of Facebook is that you learn how many stupid people there are out there. I get tired of the attempts at gun grabbing. Other countries use different weapons to kill people. We don’t see a lot of machete attacks here. Everything gets called a mass shooting, if the Dems feel they can make points with it. I’ve been in a Facebook fight with some woman that tried to tell me that Christians have killed more people in the US than Muslims. I’m not sure how her example of Andre Brevik fit in, but then I’m not… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
8 years ago

Dalrymple There is no fury like a non-judgementalist scorned. When our mistakes fall into a consistent pattern over many years….they become symptoms of defects in character. It is normal for small acts of betrayal to be seduced away from our memories to fashion ourselves a better self-conceit. It is well worth remembering that one-man one-vote democracy is perfectly compatible to the greatest crimes known to man. Humor, fearlessness, seriousness, and honesty: the qualities that are hated by all the smelly little orthodoxies that are contending for tenure in the humanities departments of our universities. Overwhelming guilt not in proportion to… Read more »

el_baboso
Member
8 years ago

I’ve seen this a bit in the corporate world. I never worked for a big conglomerate, so my experiences are limited to companies that actually might go out of business of they really screwed the pooch. Generally, this sort of magical thinking becomes pronounced when nearly everyone realizes that you’re about to go broke. If you’re going down, you might as well go down thinking nice thoughts.

Severian
Reply to  el_baboso
8 years ago

Yep. Lots of folks — myself definitely included — think liberalism is triumphant because they win all the fights. But they’re really the Harlem Globetrotters. They’re all flash and no substance, and they only win because they only ever play the Washington Generals. They’re not getting more hysterical because they’re doing a victory lap; they’re getting more hysterical because they know the barbarians (=social and economic reality) are at the gate. Ever seen that wonderful movie Downfall? The Red Army was two blocks away, yet what was left of the Gestapo still found time to hang starving civilians for “defeatism.”

Member
8 years ago

Side note- does anyone actually have a date, time and source for that Justin quote? When McInnes and maybe Cold Fury cited it a while back I could find no origin for it. He’s my Queen’s prime minister up here and I would love for that quote to be authentic. I’d put it on my wall. It sure sounds like him. But I fear alas that it is bogus.

Member
8 years ago

Not to be too much of a wet blanket, but I wonder about the magic shape theory angle. That certainly would explain so many gun controllers’ fascination with pistol grips and evil black stamped metal and plastic. But how many of them actually believe that the existence of the guns actually cause people to go out and kill? That seems an exaggeration of their beliefs, at least in most cases. Do most not simply believe that 1) the relatively high availability of guns and relative ease of access to them [or specific types of guns that allow for more rapid… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

getcher $900 xm42 flamethrower now while supplies last.

guest
guest
Reply to  james wilson
8 years ago

He is not joking, The X15 & XM42 Personal Flamethrowers by FPS Russia.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

I’ve always been a pistol caliber Carbine man. Love the MP5, Grease Guns, and the new fangled ones like the Beretta Storm. Easy to shot accurately out to 100 yards, not much recoil or fuss, lots of capacity, fast reload, and fairly light (except for the Thompson – they feel like they are made out of battleship steel and concrete).

Modern body armor has made them fairly obsolete for military use.

el_baboso
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Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

I’d go with a Glock pistol and maybe a sawed off shotgun if I could conceal it under a coat.

Allegedly “Mateen” used a non-AR pattern , 5.56 carbine with an AKMS-style folding stock. Not as compact as a machine pistol. Potentially shorter than a sawed off shot gun.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols did exactly that back in 1995. You should be thankful the new colonizers of America don’t know your history very well. Especially since “…*55 percent, say ordinary Americans would “do a better job of solving problems” than the people whose job it is to do so”. Despite the media bias, Americans are far more resourceful than people give you credit for being.

* http://www.npr.org/2015/11/23/457063796/poll-only-1-in-5-americans-say-they-trust-the-government

UKer
UKer
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

I think you’ll find, Z, that muslims have already taken dump on Obama’s head. Several in fact.

post.tenebras.lux
post.tenebras.lux
Reply to  random_observer_2011
8 years ago

“THEY SEEM TO HAPPEN WITH GREATER REGULARITY IN THE US”. Has a study been done on how consistent the gun shootings have happened since Obama has been in office? Just sayin

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  random_observer_2011
8 years ago

A plain old Remington 870 with an extended tube is going to put 72 .33 caliber projectiles down range in less than 10 seconds. Probably 10 million of them floating around. No fancy grips sights or “thingys that go up”. And yes, a “mad minute” is a lot of fun. The Lee-Enfield, with the “cock on close” feature, is still the smoothest bolt infantry rifle out there.

Kathleen
Kathleen
8 years ago

I think we’re starting to see a lot more people wake up to the “culture of lies” we find ourselves in. There have always been the lone voice(s) in the wilderness, but it’s been hard to reach a large audience when the Leftist Progressive media controls the levers of information dessemination. Enter Trump, who has paved the way for others to tell the truth he is not afraid to give voice to. Last night I saw Kallstrom on Fox. He’s laying the blame for the FBIs inability to stop the Orlando slaughter by a Moslem squarely at the door of… Read more »

Meema
8 years ago

I had a hardy chuckle after reading that Zuckerberg predicted we’d be plugged into the Matrix by 2050. Really? I’ve been warning for years that we are already in the Matrix where everything is illusion. I’m equally hoarse and exhausted from screaming in a vacuum where no one can hear. I have my theory of the vehicle that so easily brought us here. Advertising. I spent my youth as a photo stylist. My job was to make everything look better than good, whether a bed set or a plate of food, the art of illusion is all about the sell.… Read more »